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November 1, 2022
Some Ukraine Items …

Earlier today these two tweets passed my timeline.


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The first lauded UK cybersecurity efforts to protect networks in Ukraine. The next one reported of successful efforts by some group from the Donetsk republic to hack into the U.S. provided military software used to manage the battlefield in Ukraine.

The hack seems to be very real.

Back in April I warned of uncontrolled weapon proliferation from the war in Ukraine:

The U.S. and its proxies in Europe are moving an enormous amount of weapons into Ukraine. But no one has an idea where those weapons will end up. It is likely that many of those will proliferate outside of the Ukraine and some of those weapons will inevitably hit those who now deliver them.

The U.S. pushed an enormous amount of weapons into Syria. Those weapons did not end up with the ‘moderate rebels’ the U.S. propaganda had elevated but in the hands the most ideological committed and most brutal actors on the ground: …

In a repeat of that ‘strategy’ the U.S. is currently pushing an enormous amount of weapons as well as mercenaries into Ukraine. The bigger stuff it delivers is not of much concern. But the huge amount of small arms and small ammunition, the anti-tank weapons and the handheld anti-air systems are of serious, long term danger. These fit into a car trunk and can easily be smuggled across boarders.

If there is a lesson to learn from Syria it is that the most ideological committed and most brutal people on the ground will not only proliferate their ideology into other countries. They are also the groups which inevitably end up holding the most dangerous weapons. They will give some to those groups in other countries which have the same ideology.

On Sunday Finland said that it sees signs that such proliferation is happening:

Finland’s National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) said it has received preliminary information that criminals in Finland might have captured military arms, such as assault rifles, meant for Ukrainian forces.

“Weapons shipped [by various countries] to Ukraine have also been found in Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands,” NBI Detective Superintendent Christer Ahlgren told Yle.

International media outlets have reported that the European law enforcement agency Europol has anticipated criminal gangs stashing weapons in border areas. This past summer Europol issued a statement warning that the proliferation of firearms and explosives in Ukraine could lead to an increase in firearms and munitions trafficked into the EU via established smuggling routes or online platforms.

“We’ve seen signs of these weapons already finding their way to Finland,” Ahlgren said.

“Three of the world’s largest motorcycle gangs—that are part of larger international organisations—are active in Finland. One of these is Bandidos MC, which has a unit in every major Ukrainian city,” he explained. “We know that contacts and routes are being warmed up, so that they’re in place.”

The Bandidos are an organized criminal group prohibited in several countries. Police is likely able to handle them. The Ukrainian Nazis and their international proliferation are a much bigger problem.

In response to the concerns voiced by Finland the U.S. military yesterday announced that is has finally started to check where all those weapons are ending up:

A small number of U.S. military forces inside Ukraine have recently begun doing onsite inspections to ensure that Ukrainian troops are properly accounting for the Western-provided weapons they receive, a senior U.S. defense official told Pentagon reporters Monday.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to provide a military update, would not say where the inspections are taking place or how close to the battlefronts the U.S. troops are getting. The official said U.S. personnel can’t do inspections “close to the front lines,” but said they are going where security conditions allow.

The effort is part of a broader U.S. campaign, announced last week by the State Department, meant to make sure that weapons provided to Ukraine don’t end up in the hands of Russian troops, their proxies or other extremist groups.

Notice the slimy propaganda phrasing AP has been using here: “… Russian troops … or other extremist groups.”

That it took eight month to even start this lame weapon control effort shows the lack of concern our well guarded rulers have for their own security.

For some curious reason the New York Times has been unable to ‘independently confirm’ that 10 Russian suicide drones were sufficient to apparently hit 18 targets:

The Ukrainian military said Russia fired 55 missiles on Monday, 45 of which were shot down. Thirteen civilians were injured, the Ukrinform news agency reported. The Foreign Ministry said 18 “objects of civilian critical infrastructure” were damaged. None of the figures could be confirmed independently.

One really wonders why …

Comments

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 1 2022 15:53 utc | 35
Kim is trolling. Truss’s phone was hacked when she was still some sort of secretary, not the PM. It’s highly unlikely that anyone still had access to her phone or messages.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2022 19:41 utc | 101

It’s all so depressing. This secret war is a weird nightmare and we American folks have no capacity to halt it.
This is why I was against punishing the Russian people from the get go — regular folks can’t do anything about their national foreign policy. I call my Congress people and ask them to stop funding the war, they probably just put me on a list of suspicious people and nothing more

Posted by: GoFast | Nov 1 2022 19:41 utc | 102

“…my verdict is Truss sent it because of her very tenuous hold on power, thinking that would allow her to remain PM.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 17:45 utc | 74
That’s conspiratorial thinking based on nothing. US approval is neither necessary for rising to PM nor them resigning being dumped. Except in Disney’s Fantasyland. The whacko things people come up with is at least ‘entertaining’ and good for a chuckle.

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 1 2022 19:42 utc | 103

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 1 2022 19:32 utc | 99
I have previously spotted your style of trolling, which I must admit is quite clever, and deceptive. To those who haven’t yet spotted it, it works like this:
The real intent of your post isn’t the final question, it’s the false or questionable statement used in the opening paragraph.
In this case, you sa

Posted by: Jax | Nov 1 2022 19:44 utc | 104

Test. Cannot get a comment to go through.
Kim Dotcom is trolling. The Truss iPhone hack was like a year ago.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2022 19:45 utc | 105

Notice the slimy propaganda phrasing AP has been using here: “… Russian troops … or other extremist groups.”

@B
This was a commonly used rhetorical device in US media years ago when I was still reading and watching them. The editors believe the readers don’t notice; the editors are actually undermining their own credibility by doing so.

Posted by: Richard L | Nov 1 2022 19:45 utc | 106

@karlof1 #74:

The timestamp evidence…

There has been no evidence so far. One tweet with a claim is not evidence.

Posted by: S | Nov 1 2022 19:45 utc | 107

(Oops hit the post button by accident).
You said: “To escape the draft, thousands of Russians have fled to neighboring countries.”.. then segue into a question about NATO countries.
The entire point of your post is to plant the idea that thousands of Russians have fled to avoid the draft.
What evidence do you have of this? Or just western MSM propaganda outlets?

Posted by: Jax | Nov 1 2022 19:46 utc | 108

This sudden interest for arms inspection near the front seems the alibi for US troops advance to there…
More than any other thing….

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 1 2022 19:51 utc | 109

It is possible that Typepad’s problems are a result of sabotage. If so, this amounts to election interference, if nothing else.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 1 2022 16:28 utc | 50
more conspiratorial non-thinking. Obviously, everyone knows the aliens did it!

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 1 2022 19:53 utc | 110

What is the status of the gas pipeline network from Russia into Ukraine? I haven’t seen anything about that recently but several weeks into the SMO I saw a report saying that it was functioning normally.
If it is still functioning, it makes a further mockery of the claims that Russia blew up Nordstream.

Posted by: Mothy Jim | Nov 1 2022 20:05 utc | 111

@Tom SteChatte | Nov 1 2022 15:27 utc | 31
What ” NATO Command and Control (C2)” hack?
When is that supposed to have happened?

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 1 2022 20:06 utc | 112

Any thoughts on the UN report regarding Russian soldier rape allegations? I understand that historically war rape happens, but it would be quite damning if it is true.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 1 2022 20:08 utc | 113

@Bemildred, #8:
Thinking ahead too much is un-american. And Putin has already noted the tendency to crap all over anything good that can be “weaponized”. The main thing is to act crazy, try to spook the herd, and fund-raise.
Your concise comment above hit the nail on the head!!!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 1 2022 19:18 utc | 96
Thank you, I have been studying them for many years now. It was much easier once I stopped trying to make sense and just observed.
Always a pleasure.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 1 2022 20:17 utc | 114

“If the UN were anything more than a paper tiger with its head up the US arse, it would demand that all nuclear powers keep their arms inside their own borders to be used only for defensive purposes, and any one the Security Council (SC) who wants to veto such a motion should be removed from the SC as a danger to humanity. There is no reason the world should tolerate such international brinkmanship by any national leaders.”
Posted by: Ed Nelson | Nov 1 2022 18:07 utc | 78
ABSOLUTELY ED!!!!!

Posted by: vetinLA | Nov 1 2022 20:23 utc | 115

I have previously spotted your style of trolling, which I must admit is quite clever, and deceptive.
Posted by: Jax | Nov 1 2022 19:46 utc | 109
(blushing) Thank you, I’m flattered.

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 1 2022 20:24 utc | 116

@ karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 18:30 utc | 84
thanks karlof1… a denial is a reply i suppose.. i don’t recall if they denied the quotes from victoria nuland and george, or geoffrey pyatt back in 2014.. i can’t recall.. of course it is all supposition as i see it… would be great if russia had hard ‘proof’ but i doubt it in this case.. maybe i am wrong..

Posted by: james | Nov 1 2022 20:28 utc | 117

Very wierd situation.
Increased social stress in Europe due to inflation, gas restrictions, pipeline sabotage, transfer of production away from Europe, trashing the Euro Dollar, deliberate sabotage of food production via blocking supplies and fertilisers, mass transfer of weapons that are unaccounted, weakening the Euro militaries via weapon transfers….
If I didn’t know any better I would think the US and Britain are trying to ferment civil unrest/civil war in the Euro zone…
What if rather than accounting for weapons the US is actually making sure the weapons go to the ‘right’ channels.

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Nov 1 2022 20:47 utc | 118

Some of those weapons are going to end up in the hands of the Proud Boys. You watch.

Posted by: Robert Browning | Nov 1 2022 19:35 utc | 100
Proud Buys leader Henry Tarrio is an FBI informant.

Posted by: Down South | Nov 1 2022 20:48 utc | 119

Seems to me stepping up things like that would lead to economically costly retaliation against Finland and Sweden.
After that their leaders would probably sober up.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 1 2022 18:45 utc | 89
Those “leaders” will be airlifted into Brussels or London well ahead of time, along with their WEF ministers and selected other bureaucrats and CIA/Mossad backstabbers.
I’m Finnish and I’m sure that Sanna “cocaine” Marin and Sauli “satan” Niinistö have no issue with Finland becoming a radioactive pile of dust, as long as their shekels (in the case of the latter) and drugs and fake Instagram follower bots (in the case of the former) are intact.

Posted by: Jusses | Nov 1 2022 20:56 utc | 120

Ghost @ 110
It also provides Pentagon with an official alibi when these troops suffer casualties- ‘They weren’t engaged in combat, they were only inspecting weapon stores’.

Posted by: Extra | Nov 1 2022 21:09 utc | 121

“Its Done!” What is done? If this is about the blown pipe line then the important piece not mentioned by .com is when the explosion occurred. The phone call happened 0ne minute after the explosion and massive loss of pressure in a monitored pipe line. Only Gasprom would know that. The Russians, I do believe, have access to the cloud and would be in a position to know that Truss called Blinken exactly one minute after the explosion.
.com can spout all he wants but the Russians were the ones to find this out and it is why the Russians have stated that the UK was involved. The Russians will also not try to be a know it all.

Posted by: Dodgy Bodger | Nov 1 2022 21:13 utc | 122

“Its Done!” What is done? If this is about the blown pipe line then the important piece not mentioned by .com is when the explosion occurred. The phone call happened 0ne minute after the explosion and massive loss of pressure in a monitored pipe line. Only Gasprom would know that. The Russians, I do believe, have access to the cloud and would be in a position to know that Truss called Blinken exactly one minute after the explosion.
.com can spout all he wants but the Russians were the ones to find this out and it is why the Russians have stated that the UK was involved. The Russians will also not try to be a know it all.

Posted by: Dodgy Bodger | Nov 1 2022 21:17 utc | 123

“Any thoughts on the UN report regarding Russian soldier rape allegations?…but it would be quite damning if it is true.” Turk 152@114
If the UN told the truth it would be breaking all precedent. Normally it does what the State Department orders. And when it doesn’t the Secretary General is replaced by one who will.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2022 21:27 utc | 125

Who cares if “thousands” of (uncategorized to the point of meaninglessness) Russians have fled the draft? Many more thousands of Ukrainians fled the country upon the invasion in February and many, many more people fled the Donbass region into Russia over the past 8+ years to avoid NATO backed Ukro-Nazi shelling.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2022 21:47 utc | 127

Posted by: Dodgy Bodger | Nov 1 2022 21:17 utc | 123
I don’t follow your logic that only Gazprom would have known. If in fact the UK and whoever else were behind the operation to explode the pipelines, they of course would have known when they did it, within a matter of minutes. There is no useful information (e.g. pressure drop) conveyed in a statement like “It’s done” – merely that something planned had been carried out.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2022 21:51 utc | 128

Economic tidbit from Shadowstats:
“Consistent with a contracting domestic economy, Third-Quarter 2022 Real Construction Spending continued in deepening annual collapse for the fourth straight quarter, down by 10.0% (-10.0%) year-to-year, and down at an annualized quarter-to-quarter pace of 16.7% (-16.7%), the fourth quarter-to-quarter contraction in the last five quarters.”

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 21:52 utc | 129

Mobilisation. Russia has done a partial mobilisation. To escape the draft, thousands of Russians have fled to neighboring countries.
What would happen if NATO mobilized?
Look at the typical 18 to 25 year old in a typical German town. If you order him to take up arms, and defend his (new) fatherland on Ukrainian soil, what do you think will happen?
Young Germans or Italians would fight to death for the goals of their American masters.
Just wait and see.

Posted by: marko | Nov 1 2022 21:58 utc | 130

Tom_Q_Collins @128–
What’s being said is that Gazprom knows the exact UTC time the pressure dropped and that Truss’s text is just after that moment. The supposition is the hackers have the document confirming the time stamp and text content and have either shared that info with Russia or Russia got it independently. Given Russia’s capabilities, IMO in this case the hackers and Russian intel are one and the same.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 22:02 utc | 131

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 22:02 utc | 131
OK, that makes more sense assuming the breach of the phones’ SMS messages is real. So the thinking is that Gazprom (of course) knew the exact time of the pressure drop which wasn’t really all that important until it came out that immediately afterwards Truss sent that text message. Someone put two and two together, again assuming true. Unfortunately the Great Firewall of Western Media will likely coalesce to prevent the truth from ever being known with certainty.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2022 22:12 utc | 132

karlof1 @ 94
“Putin’s speeches are not boring and he needs to keep speaking!”
I agree, they will become documents of historical significance.
On the other hand, I think that an occasional short speech in German would be effective, and the hysterical reaction from The Empire would alone be worth it !

Posted by: Steve from Oz | Nov 1 2022 22:13 utc | 133

Posted by: bevin | Nov 1 2022 21:27 utc | 125
Just ask Dag Hammarskjold. Or, in a less deadly sense, Boutros-Boutros Ghali.
Who was it that the Bush-Cheney regime threatened with knowing where they lived?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2022 22:15 utc | 134

Steve from Oz @133–
Thanks for your reply. Agreed, but would Germany allow it to be aired? Based on previous behavior from Merkel, no, and that would be a double no from Scholtz. But such a speech could still be broadcast and would eventually worm its way to some Germans. Samizdat couldn’t be stopped.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 22:20 utc | 135

❗️ A 40-meter pipe was torn out, the pipes parted for 250 meters, its piece was bent 90 degrees and thrown to a part of the Nord Stream, this is an obvious terrorist attack – Putin about explosions at Nord Stream – Putin
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apparently gazprom is now allowed to investigate

Posted by: Jo | Nov 1 2022 22:26 utc | 136

russia is never allowed to investigate… mh 17, novichok in the uk, nordstream now…. it wouldn’t work if russia was involved in the investigation, as it would skew the way the russians have to be portrayed at every turn… this has been going on for a good length of time.. to expect any type of transparency from the west is asking way too much…. just put your faith in them – they being such stellar leaders of the free world, lolol…

Posted by: james | Nov 1 2022 22:31 utc | 137

Russia says it is going to inspect all ships bound for Ukraine ports in Black Sea…. London ship insurance will not insure outbound ships until the situation is settled

Posted by: Jo | Nov 1 2022 22:31 utc | 138

karlof1 @ 135
“…and would eventually worm its way to some Germans.”
True, and the message, being more personal, would have the added advantage of showing that the dispute is with the leadership, not the people.
Always enjoy your comments by the way.

Posted by: Steve from Oz | Nov 1 2022 22:35 utc | 139

(Not Ukraine but the non-Ukraine thread doesn’t work)

Saudi Arabia, U.S. on High Alert After Warning of Imminent Iranian Attack
Saudis said Tehran wants to distract from local protests, and the National Security Council said the U.S. is prepared to respond

Source: WSJ (yeah, I know. I pinched my nose too).
Big US False Flag incoming? Looks like it to me. Although, like many, I was expecting it would be in Ukraine. That said, perhaps multiple false flags are in the works.

Posted by: Jax | Nov 1 2022 22:35 utc | 140

Chas #17
“I hope some of those smuggled US weapons arrive in Gaza and the West Bank.”
I have some sympathy with the thrust of your point but it threatens to draw more blood than you would ever intend. As mentioned elsewhere, throwing oil on the fire just creates a chaos that argues for repression.
Tangientially related to this, my pretend subversiveness leads me to execute cash transactions almost exclusively. It is apparent that retailers are gradually discouraging and closing down this option. The Covid thing was one reason of not handling cash that had a temporary plausibility. The phenomena persists however and speaks of some over-arching manifesto that I am not immediately inclined to entertain.

Posted by: Cyclops | Nov 1 2022 22:38 utc | 141

Jayco #43
” these people wanted it recorded for posterity, they wanted it on display, these are the people we are dealing with.”
Beleiving the unthinkable is clever is a whole different level of misguided.

Posted by: Cyclops | Nov 1 2022 22:45 utc | 142

karlof1 @ 94
“Putin’s speeches are not boring and he needs to keep speaking!”
I agree, they will become documents of historical significance.
On the other hand, I think that an occasional short speech in German would be effective, and the hysterical reaction from The Empire would alone be worth it !
Posted by: Steve from Oz | Nov 1 2022 22:13 utc | 133

Resident Kremlinologist Thomas Turk tells us Putin 2.0 has lost his ability to speak German, among other things. So we could also test that theory and/or show how much Russian CGI has improved.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 1 2022 22:46 utc | 143

An Iranian attack could take place within the next 48 hours, Aquila, a telegraph channel, cited Saudi Arabian intelligence.
It is about an attack on Israel, which along with the US and Saudi Arabia has put its military facilities in the Middle East on high alert.
Yesterday an Iranian red flag of revenge was hoisted over the dome of the Jamkaran mosque in Qom city and the dome of a mosque in Shiraz, Iran.
The last time this happened was on 7 January 2020, when the US killed Qassem Suleimani, then on 8 January, 2020 Iran launched a massive attack on US troops in Erbil, Iraq.
t.me/ssigny

Posted by: Jax | Nov 1 2022 22:46 utc | 144

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2022 21:51 utc | 128
Sorry if you are confused. Of course, UK knew when the bomb went off as it was their finger on the trigger. Who else would know exactly the moment the bomb was detonated? The gas line operator. There is a relationship between the time stamp on the sent email/message from Truss and the moment of detonation.
You are right. One party knew the explosion happened because they did it. The other found out when the pressure dropped. Two parties did know the pipeline was damaged. The point is who could have put the two together other than Russia?
Of course, The USA was in on the plan.

Posted by: Dodgy Bodger | Nov 1 2022 22:54 utc | 145

The WSJ crap is just that–crap. Iran and Saudis are talking a lot as are all the other Gulf nations. Iran busted some oil smugglers which is what’s behind all the BS. The Outlaw US Empire is rapidly losing what remains of its leverage in the Persian Gulf which is unnerving the Zionists. The Grand Chessboard in the Persian Gulf region isn’t just being overturned, it’s being broken in half with all and sundry wanting to ally with Russia/China in BRICS/SCO, thus the hysterics.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 23:10 utc | 146

Hello fellow barflys. This seems to be the Open Thread we currently don’t have
I agree with the theory that Truss’s message to Blinken was sussed out of the insecure iCloud. To think that any of the public domain messaging services is secure is delusional…..the ability takes effort beyond one or two individuals but reflects how people are manipulated into believing other than the obvious reality.
I read somewhere at MoA about 3 levels of conflict and I agree that there are levels as well as more than a few hot spots at the bottom.
I would posit that the regional levels of conflict of old are being broken down with organizations like BRICS at the upper level with finance and global interchange of raw materials, goods and services.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2022 23:17 utc | 147

@Cyclops | Nov 1 2022 22:45 utc | 142
nicely put. good see rare responses like this.

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 1 2022 23:18 utc | 148

” Back in April I warned of uncontrolled weapon proliferation from the war in Ukraine:
The U.S. and its proxies in Europe are moving an enormous amount of weapons into Ukraine. But no one has an idea where those weapons will end up. It is likely that many of those will proliferate outside of the Ukraine ”
I hope now everyone understands why millions of military aged males from the Middle East and Africa were allowed into Europe. Soon Europe will be in a financial and social meltdown. The personnel is in place, the weapons arrive soon, The destruction of Europe follows .

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Nov 1 2022 23:26 utc | 149

Looks like we need to keep a close watch on the Balkans as Serbia was just threatened by German (RT picking up a Reuters item) and Dodik in Republic of Srpska is still targeted for overthrow as illustrated here. Both items deserve reading.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 23:27 utc | 150

” Back in April I warned of uncontrolled weapon proliferation from the war in Ukraine:
The U.S. and its proxies in Europe are moving an enormous amount of weapons into Ukraine. But no one has an idea where those weapons will end up. It is likely that many of those will proliferate outside of the Ukraine ”
I hope now everyone understands why millions of military aged males from the Middle East and Africa were allowed into Europe. Soon Europe will be in a financial and social meltdown. The personnel is in place, the weapons arrive soon, The destruction of Europe follows .

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Nov 1 2022 23:27 utc | 151

“ It’s done “
Implies if nothing else an underling reporting to their line manager about some command given.
Maybe along the lines of ‘will no one did me of this troublesome (NS2) priest ?
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@ Gruff @ 55 @ oldhippie | Nov 1 2022 16:53 utc | 59
Yes my dear bf’s that is why I find the whatever President named aircraft carrier group planning to stop at Portsmouth a bit interesting .

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 1 2022 23:28 utc | 152

“ It’s done “
Implies if nothing else an underling reporting to their line manager about some command given.
Maybe along the lines of ‘will no one did me of this troublesome (NS2) priest ?
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@ Gruff @ 55 @ oldhippie | Nov 1 2022 16:53 utc | 59
Yes my dear bf’s that is why I find the whatever President named aircraft carrier group planning to stop at Portsmouth a bit interesting .

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 1 2022 23:30 utc | 153

” Back in April I warned of uncontrolled weapon proliferation from the war in Ukraine:
The U.S. and its proxies in Europe are moving an enormous amount of weapons into Ukraine. But no one has an idea where those weapons will end up. It is likely that many of those will proliferate outside of the Ukraine ”
I hope now everyone understands why millions of military aged males from the Middle East and Africa were allowed into Europe. Soon Europe will be in a financial and social meltdown. The personnel is in place, the weapons arrive soon, The destruction of Europe follows .

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Nov 1 2022 23:35 utc | 154

petergrfstrm #90
“Why do people accept and stay silent?”
Fundamentally we are herd animals. Its not just us, its a myriad of species. Insects swarm, birds flock, fish shoal, apes troop. Many of these phenomena are extraordinarily intricately choreographed. A group movement can appear spontaneous but it has all the characteristics of forethought.
This group co-ordination is instinctual and is therefore difficult to override. You may tire of eating trodden down fodder laden with dung but that lush fresh greenery just over there is where the lions will get you. Even when you don’t have physical predation, those brain circuits are now haunted by psychological equivalents.
Maybe its being a scout finding new resources or maybe its the role of sacrificial victim marking out the bounds of possibility, either way its not a predicament you want to place your whole species in. The need for conformity is paramount. Survival of the fittest is a fallacy, you need a viable population if a species is to endure and that requires subordinating individuality to the group ethos.

Posted by: Cyclops | Nov 1 2022 23:42 utc | 155

Liz sticks a fork in it, “it’s done”.

Posted by: oink | Nov 1 2022 23:49 utc | 156

Seriously, I hope the Russian hackers were able to use the Delta app to at least get some NATO pizzas delivered on USA’s dime. They deserve that much.
P.S. Has anyone noticed Kim dotcom is about as fat as Kim Jong Un? Coincidence? No: They both hacked the Delta App years ago, they’ve got free NATO pizzas for life!

Posted by: GoFast | Nov 1 2022 23:53 utc | 157

IF smuggled, stolen, “diverted”, etc. weapons ONLY were used by gangsters, supposedly no one would care. But our experience here in Latin America is that the “collateral damage” is such it just leads to a spiral of violence, directed not just at various gangsters, but at political opponents, union organizers, police, journalists and … well, anyone with even a minor connection (or none at all) to whatever the conflict has to do with in the first place.

Posted by: Alta4710 | Nov 1 2022 23:54 utc | 158

“the deed is done”
Mactruss to Lady Blinken

Posted by: Platero | Nov 1 2022 23:59 utc | 159

@ Deplorable Commissar
Whoa. That’s a thought. We’ll see. I think it’s gonna be a rough 10-20 years post bellum for Eastern Europe, for sure.

Posted by: GoFast | Nov 2 2022 0:03 utc | 160

Another reason for the WSJ crap:

The United Nations General Assembly First Committee, which deals with disarmament and international security issues, called on Israel to get rid of all its atomic weapons and place its nuclear sites under the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency in a 152 to 5 vote.
Five countries – Canada, Israel, Micronesia, Palau and the United States – opposed the resolution on Friday over the “risk of nuclear proliferation in the Middle East.” Twenty-four other countries abstained, including members of the European Union.
The resolution, submitted by Egypt, was sponsored by the Palestinian Authority and 19 countries, including Bahrain, Jordan, Morocco and the United Arab Emirates.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 2 2022 0:09 utc | 161

Third-Quarter 2022 Real Construction Spending continued in deepening annual collapse for the fourth straight quarter
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 21:52 utc | 129

The Big 4 economic stats have typically been interest (rates), GDP, unemployment, and inflation.
I’m thinking with the amount of distortion and outright manipulation, it will be both easier and more accurate to simply monitor exchange rates.
With the coming of spring, it will be difficult to suppress the boom going on in Moscow from housing construction, infrastructure projects and capital inflows.
I took my first business trip to China 30 years ago. I can still picture the dirty muddy single line highways backed up for miles filled with lorries and other commercial traffic.
Today there are super highways, high rises and huge manufacturing centers. Russia, literally being the only game in town with respect to surplus energy resources, should at least be able to mirror this type of growth if for no other reason that smart EU players will emigrate.

Posted by: B9k9 | Nov 2 2022 0:09 utc | 162

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 23:10 utc | 146

The WSJ crap is just that–crap…

You’ve missed my point. I couldn’t care less what the WSJ article said (I didn’t read beyond the headline). The point is that the “Iran to strike Saudi Arabia imminently” story that is rapidly making its way around the western MSM press the last few hours is seemingly setting the stage for an imminent US/NATO false flag strike in Saudi Arabia where Iran will be blamed.

Posted by: Jax | Nov 2 2022 0:27 utc | 163

The story goes that Liz Truss iCloud account was hacked. Not just her device. So I guess its possible that her device was taken from her buy she somehow was stupid enough to keeo using her same Apple account which kept saving her communications to iCloud. Im not saying that happened but Liz Trusd looks and acts stupid enough for me to belive its a real possibility.

Posted by: Comandante | Nov 2 2022 0:34 utc | 164

” Five countries – Canada, Israel, Micronesia, Palau and the United States – opposed the resolution on Friday over the “risk of nuclear proliferation in the Middle East.” Twenty-four other countries abstained, including members of the European Union. ”
Whats really important is how China and Russia voted, if they abstained then a pox on them.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Nov 2 2022 0:35 utc | 165

” Whoa. That’s a thought. We’ll see. I think it’s gonna be a rough 10-20 years post bellum for Eastern Europe, for sure.
Posted by: GoFast | Nov 2 2022 0:03 utc | 160 ”
Although, Eastern Europe has relatively few migrants / invaders. Central and Western Europe on the other hand ……………

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Nov 2 2022 0:37 utc | 166

“weapons inspection” is likely “more boots on the ground.” ty

Posted by: polarbear4 | Nov 2 2022 0:55 utc | 167

It’s not a bug. It’s a feature.
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 1 2022 12:14 utc | 3
all i see anymore are these huge western machines eating, torturing, starving all living beings.
i hope they get sucked down a whirlpool while a multi-colored web of life starts healing what can be healed. i guess if i have to go down with it, it’s one for the cause. ugh.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Nov 2 2022 1:00 utc | 168

Patrick Lawrence ‘gets it.’
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/11/01/patrick-lawrence-war-as-presentation/

Posted by: bevin | Nov 2 2022 1:03 utc | 169

What, I can’t post a supposition?
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 21:20 utc | 124
Did you post a supposition? If so, ipso facto, then yes you can post a supposition. It’s quite the thing to do (obviously). Of course, some are more ethereal or realistic than others. But each to their own….

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 2 2022 1:08 utc | 170

Netanyahu likely to come back, IMHO will show Zelensky the correct path.

Posted by: ArdentAgnostic | Nov 2 2022 1:10 utc | 171

If Russia had indeed hacked into Ukraines BMS, then it makes little sense to alert the Ukrainians to their intrusion into the BMS.

Posted by: Muthaucker | Nov 2 2022 1:27 utc | 172

Tom Q
Foreign Secretary to whom MI6 reports and whose Director Moore was in Turkey for many years stirring the pot in Central Asia and Caucasus

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Nov 2 2022 1:33 utc | 173

#165 @Deplorable
“Whats really important is how China and Russia voted, if they abstained then a pox on them”
They voted for, but maybe your pox should be applied to India, who abstained.

Posted by: BillB | Nov 2 2022 1:33 utc | 174

Survival of the fittest is a fallacy, you need a viable population if a species is to endure and that requires subordinating individuality to the group ethos.
Posted by: Cyclops | Nov 1 2022 23:42 utc | 155
Higher order intelligent human life is tribal. Lemmings are herdlike, not humans. Matter of fact, anyplace where humans have subordinated their individuality to a “group ethos”, atrocities have occurred.

Posted by: Muthaucker | Nov 2 2022 1:35 utc | 175

Usa boots on ground in ukraine as weapons inspection. Because black market guns get better prices with letters of authenticity.

Posted by: Hankster | Nov 2 2022 1:37 utc | 176

Theres been two similar UN votes on israeli nukes. 2020 and just now. Similar vote outcome. Similar response. ..nothing

Posted by: Hankster | Nov 2 2022 1:39 utc | 177

Liz – “It’s done”.
Jesus – “It is finished.”
The Towel speaks.

Posted by: comrade simba | Nov 2 2022 1:56 utc | 178

Jax @163
Indeed, this is the usual MO for the USA. After seeing this ploy so many times, anyone can figure it out. In fact I’m surprised it’s still being used, given the obvious pattern; perhaps a sign that there really is no one competent in control of US policy-making.
The USA is like a classic gangster, shaking down the neighborhood for “protection from accidents.”

Posted by: robjira | Nov 2 2022 2:03 utc | 179

@ Dodgy Bodger | 145
…Of course, UK knew when the bomb went off as it was their finger on the trigger. Who else would know exactly the moment the bomb was detonated? The gas line operator. There is a relationship between the time stamp on the sent email/message from Truss and the moment of detonation.
____________
Also, a whole bunch of seismologists know exactly when the bombs went off and the info is published / available.
The blast signal can be expected to travel faster in water and rock than the pipeline pressure drop can propagate.

Posted by: John_EN | Nov 2 2022 2:43 utc | 180

@ Dodgy Bodger | 145
…Of course, UK knew when the bomb went off as it was their finger on the trigger. Who else would know exactly the moment the bomb was detonated? The gas line operator. There is a relationship between the time stamp on the sent email/message from Truss and the moment of detonation.
____________
Also, a whole bunch of seismologists know exactly when the bombs went off and the info is published / available.
The blast signal can be expected to travel faster in water and rock than the pipeline pressure drop can propagate.

Posted by: John_EN | Nov 2 2022 2:44 utc | 181

@ Dodgy Bodger | 145
…Of course, UK knew when the bomb went off as it was their finger on the trigger. Who else would know exactly the moment the bomb was detonated? The gas line operator. There is a relationship between the time stamp on the sent email/message from Truss and the moment of detonation.
____________
Also, a whole bunch of seismologists know exactly when the bombs went off and the info is published / available.
The blast signal can be expected to travel faster in water and rock than the pipeline pressure drop can propagate.

Posted by: John_EN | Nov 2 2022 2:46 utc | 182

@ Dodgy Bodger | 145
…Of course, UK knew when the bomb went off as it was their finger on the trigger. Who else would know exactly the moment the bomb was detonated? The gas line operator. There is a relationship between the time stamp on the sent email/message from Truss and the moment of detonation.
____________
Also, a whole bunch of seismologists know exactly when the bombs went off and the info is published / available.
The blast signal can be expected to travel faster in water and rock than the pipeline pressure drop can propagate.

Posted by: John_EN | Nov 2 2022 2:48 utc | 183

Look who just popped up in the Iran current color revolution attempt?
Bernhard-Henri fucking Levi
Today with @BHL we discussed how the West is rightfully helping Ukraine in its fight against Putin, but hesitates to take action against Islamic Republic which has killed 100s of protesters & given drones to Russia.
EU must recognize the Revolution taking place Iran. #MahsaAmini
https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1586560853406633984
Last time I saw him he was strolling down an Odessa street at the start of the SMO
What’s he doing now?
Oh. He’s at the UN…..
After #Ukraine front line, and #UN, I will tmrw be at the #GeneralAssembly22 to plead the cause of #Ukraine w/the leadership of the Jewish community.
I’ll share why #Jews & #Ukrainians are brothers in soul and why the Jewish people worldwide must #StandwithUkraine @jfederations
https://twitter.com/BHL/status/1586843082947018754?cxt=HHwWhIC-lYzYzIUsAAAA

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 2 2022 2:57 utc | 184

Liz would have got a mega yacht and a huge amount of money in this case, just like Blair, and he may also receive a lead bullet in exchange.

Posted by: Nosuhiro | Nov 2 2022 2:57 utc | 185

I am treating this as an Open Thread and posting the link below from Xinhuanet that shows China is upping their media efforts
The ugly truth of American democracy: Elections are political shows that fool the American people. The so-called democracy is, in fact, a game of power and money.
In Oregon we have examples of what they report about big money supporting fringe candidates to effect outcomes…..the best government money can buy, isn’t that the adage?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 2 2022 3:06 utc | 186

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 2 2022 2:57 utc | 184

Bernhard-Henri fucking Levi
Last time I saw him he was strolling down an Odessa street at the start of the SMO

Last time I saw him he was posing with the Panjshir resistance army in Afghanistan.
I take him as a sign of good omen: The side he backs usually loses.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 2 2022 3:53 utc | 187

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 1 2022 20:08 utc | 114
And the truth is. You absolutely cannot take anything from Ukraine or the Evil Empire “news” as anything that can be true anymore.
https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/06/01/ukrainian-official-fired-russian/

Posted by: Surferket | Nov 2 2022 4:21 utc | 188

Tom Q Collins #134
It was Bolton that threatened the Director of the OPCW to resign as Bolton knew his children lived in New York and went to university there.
Its how the mafia does business.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 2 2022 4:32 utc | 189

Does anyone have up to date, preferably Russian with other non-NATO sources (unless they actually inadvertently gave themselves away) on the Bucha or other allegedly Russian committed war crimes? I’m suddenly seeing a surge of the same old claims and my links to Grayzone, MoA and other sites aren’t being accepted due to their age and the relative recency of the newly trotted out allegations of Russians bombing theaters, hospitals and the whole Bucha bullshit story.
I guess my question could also be does anyone have any new sites at all to recommend other than the usual Telegram, Slava, Consortium News, etc. for **ACTUAL** coverage and analysis of this war? The propaganda warriors never stop repeating the same.old.shit.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 2 2022 4:36 utc | 190

Paul Greenwood #173
It was Moore who likely arranged for the death of the englander fundraiser / director of the White Helmets. He then departed Turkey and was elevated by the satanic majesty Boris.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 2 2022 4:40 utc | 191

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 1 Nov 2022⚡️
#Belgorod and #Kursk Regions:
▪️ Ukrainian militants shelled the village of #Kozinka in Grayvoronsky district in #Belgorod region, one person injured, civilian infrastructure damaged.
▪️ Ukrainian militants fired mortars at the village of #Krasnooktyabrsky in #Kursk region, no casualties, one residential building damaged.
#Ukraine’s Northeastern Regions:
▪️ Russian artillery shelled targets in #Senkovka and #Gay in #Chernigov region, as well as #Aleksandrovka and #Volkovka in #Sumy region.
▪️ In #Kharkov region, the Russian forces worked on targets in #Olkhovatka, #Volchansk, Kazachya Lopan, #Strelechya and #Chugunovka near the border.
#Starobelsk Direction (MAP):
▪️ The 14th AFU Mechanized Brigade again tried to launch an offensive in the #Pervomayskoye – #Orlyanka area, but under Russian artillery fire and losses the enemy retreated.
▪️ Due to AFU losses in the #Kupyansk sector, the Ukrainian command is considering a possible counterattack by the Russian Forces on #Kupyansk. Defences are being built to the east of the city.
▪️ In the #Svatovo sector, the 71st Jager Brigade of the Ukrainian army has crossed the #Zherebets near #Stelmakhovka and is preparing for an assault on Russian positions.
▪️ In the #Lyman sector, the AFU plans to resume the offensive on #Chervonopopovka with the aim of reaching #Kremennaya from the north.
Additional AFU reinforcements are being moved to #Ploshchanka to block the #Svatovo – #Kremennaya road.
▪️ In the #Lysychansk sector, Russian artillery, supported by the Russian Air Force, hit an enemy stronghold and forced the militants to retreat to #Serebryanka.
#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ Ukrainian militants shelled #Donetsk, #Gorlovka, #Makeevka and #Yasinovataya again.
#Lugansk People’s Republic:
▪️ Ukrainian militants struck #Svatovo and damaged a gas pipeline. In #Krasnorechenskoye a child was injured.
#Zaporozhye Direction (MAP):
▪️ The enemy is concentrating more forces in the #Zaporozhye region. Units of the 65th AFU Mechanized Brigade moved to the #Belogorye – #Charivnoye line. Another convoy with military equipment was spotted near #Novoyakovlevka.
▪️ Near #Kamenskoye, units of the Ukrainian National Guard’s 9th Special Purpose Regiment reerected an advance observation point, which had previously been hit by Russian forces.
#Ukraine´s Central Regions:
▪️ In #Poltava, Russian forces used Geran-2 UAVs to strike enemy targets, tesulting in a massive fire in the city.
▪️ Russian kamikaze drones hit several targets in #Dnipropetrovsk.
#Nikolaev – #Berislav Direction on Southern Front:
▪️ During the night, Russian forces carried out several missile strikes on #Nikolaev, one of which hit the AFU’s ddeployment site in the Nikolai Arkas Gymnasium.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/18156

Posted by: Down South | Nov 2 2022 5:04 utc | 192

PS. There is a reason why there are so few “insider” or “soon there will be good news” reports from the front lately, but that instead we are daily finding new vectors of the Russian Army’s attacks and getting reports of offensives, assaults, and maneuvers after the fact.
This reason has many names. One of them: Surovikin. The other: the Coordination Council. The third: Lapin is gone. The fourth: all the hype and news making that was associated with Lapin is also gone, and the military bloggers are visibly starving. The fifth: Surovikin is eclipsing Gerasimov. I can go on, but you get the idea.
Loose lips sink ships, and someone has turned the screws on the flow of information. What do you think is happening in Kherson? I can only guess. Not even NATO with a bunch of satellites pointed at the city seems to know. Ukrainians are too afraid to even poke their nose at the defensive lines. All as it should have been done long ago.
All of the above is my personal opinion and, as always, has no relation to truth or reality.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/18127

Posted by: Down South | Nov 2 2022 5:07 utc | 193

@78 Ed Nelson
Your comment is one of the most rational and correct statements I’ve ever read here, or anywhere.
Well done.
I will repeat it, whenever geopolitics come up in conversation.
Why is nuclear proliferation, as it is now, allowed at all?
It makes no sense to the common man.
It is only a strategy for the madmen of our times.

Posted by: BoBo | Nov 2 2022 5:21 utc | 194

IMO, China via SCO will need to become active in anti-terrorist operations mostly in Africa. Russia’s already there, but in Mali on the opposite side of the continent.
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 17:18 utc | 65
There is one point that came in Xi Jinping’s speech last week that did not take much attention here when Xi emphasized on China to build a world-class army. In my own interpretation on this very important point is that Xi is telling the world China will be here to protect the vulnerable countries like Africa from being terrorized by the US and the west with their imperialistic behaviour.

Posted by: Man | Nov 2 2022 6:03 utc | 195

@KimDotcom
·
16h
The perpetrators of major events understand that their adversaries know exactly who did it and it’s a game they play against each other at the expense of ordinary people who become victims of stupid dick swinging contests. It’s a secret war that has been going on for decades.
Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom
·
16h
When I’m sharing spy stuff with you I’m not wasting your time like the 50 American spy chiefs who got their presstitutes to tell you lies about the Hunter Biden laptop being Russian disinformation or that Russia hacked the DNC and gave the @HillaryClinton
data to Wikileaks.
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1587434317189636097

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 2 2022 6:06 utc | 196

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2022 22:15 utc | 134
I believe it was John Bolton (who always seems to have an expression on his face like a three year old who has just been yelled at by his mum), threatening the UN inspectors re: chemical weapons and Syria.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 2 2022 6:48 utc | 197

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2022 23:10 utc | 146
My immediate thought, cynical as it may be, upon reading about this, was that the US was planning a retribution attack on SA for lowering their oil output (to be blamed on Iran, naturally).

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 2 2022 6:59 utc | 198

@75 oldhippie
Blinkie is tiny hat. Whats with Lizzy?

Posted by: tunabe | Nov 2 2022 7:34 utc | 199

Technophilia and we have an app for any problem, the Delta software suite hacking thing reminds me of the load of money spent to design a ball point pen impervious to gravity, Russians just took pencils to space. No wonder “defense” budgets do not have any proportional relation to results.

Posted by: Paco | Nov 2 2022 7:41 utc | 200