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Si tacuisses, …
Russian retreat from Kherson city sets stage for more hard combat
Washington Post – Nov 10, 2022
U.S. Army Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Tuesday night that 20,000 to 30,000 Russian forces remained on the western bank of the river and that it would take time for them to withdraw. But he, too, saw “initial indicators” that the retreat was underway, he said.
“This won’t take them a day or two,” Milley said, speaking at an event at the Economic Club of New York. “This is going to take them days and maybe even weeks to pull those forces south of that river.”
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The Ministry of Defense reported on the completion of the withdrawal of troops from Kherson
Kommersant (machine translation) – Nov 11, 2022
The Ministry of Defense reported that at 5:00 Moscow time, the transfer of Russian troops to the left bank of the Dnieper was completed. As the agency clarifies, not a single piece of military equipment and weapons was left on the right bank.
The department reports that the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried at night to disrupt the transportation of civilians and the transfer of troops to the left bank of the Dnieper. River crossings were hit five times by HIMARS rockets.
“All Russian military personnel crossed over, no losses of personnel, weapons, equipment and materiel of the Russian group were allowed,” the Ministry of Defense said.
Scorpion @ 276
The Great Reset is a criminal enterprise, want to see how well it will end, watch Scarface. It’s total James Bond Spector shit which in real life if effected would likely destroy all or most of the assets and the architecture that allows those asset to enter the real economy and have actual value as opposed to virtual value, you know, a society around it all. No society, no value.
Maybe that’s why the insiders are buying up hard assets like land, water, and resources but the rich through history always lusted after monopolies. Not saying they are not going to try a Great Reset, but they’ll sink with the rest of us – The Mother Of All Blowbacks.
1. Do you think half-measaures will work with the psychopaths running the West? Hard to say, no?
I keep waiting for the real economy: Nike, Hermes, McDonald’s, Daimler-Benz, Boeing, Ford, Renault, Siemens, Apple, Tesla, TSMC, Samsung, etc etc etc etc etc to get up and punch Blinken in the face. Otherwise, I just don’t know.
2. Or maybe there is collusion in all this
I just can’t imagine China and Russia are into this great reset scifi fantasy. I think they are extremely pragmatic, trying to get through USA Empire dysfunction, resource depletion and global warming sanely, using reasoned, systemic social and economic policy, not looking to genocide their own people. I really don’t think Russia or China sees its population as useless eaters. Modi maybe, Bolsonaro for sure 🙃
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 11 2022 19:38 utc | 252
https://kherson-news.ru/politics/2022/11/11/65207.html
Machine translation.
Putin’s Kherson Idea Revealed
The newly elected British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, speech in the House of Commons of Parliament, May 13, 1940: “I have nothing to offer you but blood, toil, tears and sweat. We have a tough test ahead of us. We have many long months of struggle and suffering ahead of us.”
President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin , speech at the Valdai Club, October 27, 2022: “We are standing at a historic turn, ahead of probably the most dangerous, unpredictable and at the same time important decade since the end of World War II.”
And this week, Russia saw a clear example of the unpredictability and the dangers that await it ahead: the withdrawal of Russian troops to the left bank of the Dnieper near Kherson.
Am I trying to reverse events, using the October words of the President of the Russian Federation to explain what happened in November? Such an interpretation is, of course, possible. However, I would like to note that it was not I, but Vladimir Putin himself, who started “reversing events” first.
One of the most misunderstood episodes in the modern history of Russia is the admission of new regions to the Russian Federation on September 29, 2022. The change in the borders of states as a result of a special military operation is, despite the novelty of the term “NVO”, a fairly standard event in world history. But usually in such situations, new territories are first taken under full control and only then are included in the state.
Why, in the situation that was in September, did Putin make a conscious decision to change the usual course of action? There can be only one explanation: the GDP has drawn yet another red line – but not for the West, as we are used to, but for itself and all of Russia. The new borders of the country, which even before the current Kherson situation existed in theory, and not in practice, this, according to Putin, is the minimum acceptable result that the NWO can end with. Until this result is achieved, the CBO will not end. In the meantime, the special operation continues, any tactical maneuvers are possible within its framework, including those that do not look particularly rosy from a PR point of view.
This is what Vladimir Putin’s long-term political strategy looks like at the moment. And here is another important feature of this strategy: no one is allowed to be a greater “patriot of the NVO” than Putin himself.
In recent months, the system of the Russian vertical in some places has seen an unusually high level of, let me put it this way, political pluralism. I will name only two names: Ramzan Kadyrov and Yevgeny Prigozhin. But such pluralism in Putin’s eyes is acceptable and permissible only when it comes to the actions of individual subordinate figures in the system. When it comes to the general line, the consolidated decision of the supreme power, completely different norms and rules apply.
Ramzan Kadyrov in the Telegram channel: “I completely agree with Mr. Prigozhin’s opinion on Surovikin’s decision. Yevgeny Viktorovich very accurately noted that Surovikin saved a thousand soldiers who were in actual encirclement … So there is no need to talk about the “surrender” of Kherson. “Surrender” together with the fighters. And Surovikin protects the soldier and takes a more advantageous strategic position – convenient, safe.
Soon after the start of the JMD in Russia, there was a complete defeat of that part of the political spectrum that openly opposed the idea of a special operation. Now, if necessary, another similar defeat can occur in the country – those who believe that it is possible to be more resolutely anti-Western than the fighter against the hegemony of the West, who now occupies the main office in the Kremlin.
Here is a very revealing quote from an article by Pyotr Akopov “After Kherson, Russia will have to answer the damned question of its history” on the RIA Novosti website: “Now there is another exacerbation of pseudo-patriotic hysteria. It covers a small part of society, but this is not good either. Moreover, there is a threat that in the event of defeats at the front, in combination with some next statement about negotiations, the neurosis will spread to the broad masses, that is, it will begin to threaten the main condition for our victory: popular unity in trust in the supreme power.
Pay special attention to this wording: “The main condition for our victory” is absolute and unconditional “trust in the supreme power.” Whoever thinks differently is de facto working for the enemy. And how in Russia they deal with “enemies” during that existential test for the country, which is the NWO, is well known.
Another quote from an article by Petr Akopov that explains a lot: “Putin will never agree to a “shameful peace” either with Ukraine or with the West. On February 24 this year, a historic choice was made, the Rubicon was crossed, after which Russia can only move forward. Stumbling, making mistakes, missing blows, concentrating, even temporarily retreating tactically, but strategically moving only forward.
In other words, particulars are not important. The overall strategic picture is important, which, as follows from Putin’s statement at the Valdai Forum, will gradually, painfully, but at the same time consistently take shape over the next ten years.
And no, I am not implying that the NWO will last until the 1930s. The statement of the GDP, in my opinion, should be understood differently: the period that will come after the completion of the NWO will be no less difficult, dangerous and unpredictable than the period of the special operation itself.
But let’s not get too far into the future. Let’s return to the present, in which Dmitry Peskov just made a number of important, but, it seems to me, not at all unexpected statements: “The Kremlin does not consider the withdrawal from Kherson and the redeployment of troops to the left bank of the Dnieper humiliating.” Or here’s another: “This is a subject of the Russian Federation. This subject is legally fixed, defined. There are no and cannot be any changes here,” Peskov said, answering journalists’ questions about whether Russia continues to consider the entire Kherson region its territory and whether it will legally prescribe the status of the right-bank part.
A summary of all of the above: as the Kremlin is convinced, Kherson “is not counted until autumn.” Kherson can be “counted” only after the end of the NWO. Until then, wait and trust. Putin is confident that he is on the right track.
Apologies if this has already been posted.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 11 2022 20:09 utc | 260
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