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November 30, 2022

Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 2022-212

I will have to take off today to finish my Christmas backing. I will make plenty of these today as well as other ones. They will be send out to friends and family to arrive at St. Nicolas day, December 6.

News & views not related to the Ukraine conflict ...

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Jiang Zemin passed away at the age of 96
Most amusingly, the reaction on Zerohedge was they thought Jiang was the one who had been "purged" (never mind that Hu Jintao was escorted in, voted, had to be reminded by Chairman Xi to sit down, and also escorted out later) at the recent party congress. I think it's abundantly clear that most Western people have no actual interest in China besides the need for a foreign boogeyman.
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-11-30/Jiang-Zemin-passes-away-1fnPb7HiO2Y/index.html
If I remember correctly, he was involved in doing things like banning the military from doing business, putting down the crazy Falun Gong cultists, managing the recovery of Hong Kong and Macau and the 98 financial crisis, joining the WTO and promoting developing key technologies like BeiDou to replace GPS and semiconductors. Decent track record I suppose.

Posted by: leaf | Nov 30 2022 15:30 utc | 1

Caitlin Johnstone nails the Guardian's phony about face on Assange.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2022/11/30/the-guardian-could-help-assange-by-retracting-all-the-lies-it-published-about-him/

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 30 2022 16:10 utc | 2

Though for the Day:
“There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution”

Aldous Huxley

Sound familiar? "You will own nothing, rent everything and you will be happy." Klaus Schwab

Posted by: Old canadian | Nov 30 2022 16:16 utc | 3

OOPs "ThoughT"

Posted by: Old canadian | Nov 30 2022 16:16 utc | 4

We don't want PCR testing, we want food
We don't want lockdowns, we want freedom
We don't want lies, we want dignity
We don't want Cultural Revolution, we want reform
We don’t want tyrants, we want elections
We don't want to be slaves, we want to be citizens.

-Bannerman

Posted by: Antonym | Nov 30 2022 16:24 utc | 5

b - enjoy the hazelnut cookie baking...

Posted by: james | Nov 30 2022 16:33 utc | 6

M. K. Bhadrakumar
@BhadraPunchline
Not only for western media but there's a whole industry that thrives on doomsday predictions on China. Even some of India's 'China watchers' must be feeling terribly disappointed that Beijing is shoring up its achievement and there isn't going to be any apocalyptic scenario.


response -
Anyone would think from the way Western media covered the demos in China that it had messed up big-time on Covid and the West had performed brilliantly. In fact, the exact opposite was true. But it has never had the humility to admit it and pay due respect to China's achievement.

Posted by: james | Nov 30 2022 16:45 utc | 7

came across a useful suggestion by a commenter on what Ukrainians should do if the system breaks down--stock up on booze because you can always trade it for food and blankets/whatnot. seems like a practical suggestion if the shit hits the fan in a major way in the US.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 30 2022 17:10 utc | 8

yum yum yum! happy baking b!

Posted by: annie | Nov 30 2022 17:50 utc | 9

Antonym @5--

You want chaos American-style a la Hong Kong and everywhere else.

leaf @1--

Jiang Zemin was one of Putin's first international contacts after he became President and secured the first Russia-China Friendship Treaty with him. Xi Jinping learned much from him.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 18:03 utc | 10

I love the smell of cookies baking!

The Global South births a new game-changing payment system

Would you think that taking early retirement, when you don't want to, to cash in a pension to convert it to gold before to it's too late is a good idea? My gut is saying yes but my head is saying no, don't leave a good job while you have it.

Posted by: Nathan in WA US | Nov 30 2022 18:32 utc | 11

Escobar's latest "The Global South births a new game-changing payment system" alerts us to some crucial meetings occurring in December. The new purse's stitching is almost complete. The calamity is nothing is being done to prepare those living within the Outlaw US Empire for this paradigm change. Large quantities of excess international dollars will be repatriated and boost inflation much higher. The Fed will escalate rates in a losing attempt to staunch the rise. Monopolists will react as they've always done and increase prices thus doubling the pain. Will the Empire in 2023 see 20%+ inflation that the government this time is unable to hide? Here's Shadowstats most recent comment on the issue:

"October 2022 “Basic M1” Money Supply (Currency plus Checking Accounts), held 120.3% above its Pre-Pandemic Trough, minimally off peak, also holding at a 52-year high level of systemic liquidity, having absorbed and held the equivalent of 23-years of normal Monetary Stimulus in the 2.8 years since the Pandemic Shutdown. Even the headline Aggregate Money Supply M2 has absorbed 14-years of normal stimulus. Given that extreme, inflation bloating cannot pass easily, without some meaningful reduction in Money Supply, well beyond just slowing money growth.

"Exacerbating circumstances, excessive Federal Government Spending and the resulting Federal Debt Outstanding are at all-time highs, excessively bloated, pushing against the Debt Ceiling. Now that the Administration has backed off playing its pre-Election inflation games with oil prices, watch for continuing, excessive headline inflation to resume its upside surge in the months ahead, with the U.S. Economy increasingly sacked by FOMC rate hikes. Previously discussed here, FOMC rate hikes aimed at curtailing inflation in an overheating economy do little of the kind, if the economy is not overheating (the current circumstance). Continuing rate hikes will only pummel further an already moribund economy, also previously discussed." [My Emphasis]

Reducing the money supply simply means removing several trillions of dollars and burning them--literally--meaning no more "liquidity" pumped into non-tangible assets. Perhaps james will again post the Pozsar article that all ought to read. IMO, the dollar's going to get crushed like no other currency has ever been crushed before.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 18:34 utc | 12

Nathan in WA US @11--

As long as the job isn't connected to the discretionary side of the economy, then yes keep it. But if your job's on that side, do your best to move yourself to a job doing something that people must need.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 18:38 utc | 13

Thank you karlof1, I've appreciated your posts over the years. Always good info!

Whatever job you have in the US is being paid in USD so if the USD is 'crushed' wouldn't earnings basically become worthless as a result? For example, we'll end up needing wheelbarrows of cash for a loaf of bread.

Posted by: Nathan in WA US | Nov 30 2022 18:44 utc | 14

@james, #7:

response -
Anyone would think from the way Western media covered the demos in China that it had messed up big-time on Covid and the West had performed brilliantly. In fact, the exact opposite was true. But it has never had the humility to admit it and pay due respect to China's achievement.

The demos in China is "huge only according to western media. It is reported in Chinese media (including those of Hong Kong's) that most of those demos are church related groups, and many demonstrators shouted in mandarin with Hong Kong accent.

It's just another attempt at Color Revolution. The Western operatives will do this over and over again, basically because they have nothing to lose and a income to make. The ones who will ultimately take the consequences are those naive ones manipulated by these western operatives.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 30 2022 18:59 utc | 15

before I bought gold, I'd invest in booze, cigarettes, opiates/uppers, and guns.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 30 2022 19:01 utc | 16

Big changes coming in Iraq?
Kicking the Americans out and cutting them off from Syria is long overdue. Now that a massive corruption scandal, involving politicians at the very pinnacle of power has been unearthed it is hard to believe that there will not be big changes.

For the sordid detail:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iraq-theft-century-ex-head-parliamentary-finance-committee-arrested

Posted by: bevin | Nov 30 2022 19:12 utc | 17

@karlof1, #10:

Jiang Zemin was one of Putin's first international contacts after he became President and secured the first Russia-China Friendship Treaty with him. Xi Jinping learned much from him.

Jiang Zemin was the originator, along with Yeltsin, who conceptualized, started, and put into place SCO--Shanghai Cooperative Organization. Domestic media in China are paying respect to his passing by printing/video-ing all news reporting in Black and White today.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 30 2022 19:14 utc | 18

Nathan in WA US @14--

Thanks for your reply. You illuminate another big problem--will wages rise fast enough to match inflation? Another: Will Weimar-like hyperinflation happen here. IMO, the answer to each is no. However, inflation running at 20-25% will certainly crush numerous families and businesses, particularly the latter who have trouble passing on increased costs to consumers. Some of this is already happening with our current rate of inflation which is 2x what the government says. What ought to be confronting the Outlaw US Empire is a Depression and resulting contraction in both money supply and inflation. But what's actually occurring is akin to the 1970s Stagflation. Removing the Trade War tariffs Trump imposed on China would help as would removing all the illegal sanctions placed globally that's markedly driven up the cost of trade, particularly since most consumer goods are imported. Current trade policy acts like the Empire's an autarky capable of supplying the vast majority of its domestic market. And aside from some hi-tech, very little investment is going to the real economy. Indeed, Neoliberal Parasites see the coming debacle as an opportunity to buy even more assets, although some will certainly incur losses. What I'd like to see is an in-depth study of the "informal economy"--all those outside the labor force who have found ways to survive: Shadowstats uses what was the traditional method to attain the unemployment rate and it says it's just under 25%; so, what are all those millions doing?

Our household's fortunate to be employed in need-based jobs, although I'm retired. We have very little debt and some savings and IMO are as well placed as we could be, all things considered. Strife is happening, but it hasn't yet reached a level where the Media can no longer ignore it as it does now.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 19:27 utc | 19

Oriental Voice @18--

Thanks for your reply. IMO, Jiang and his team are responsible for much of China's current success.

bevin @17--

Thanks for providing that news. Unearthing the corruption IMO will provide the quickest means to oust the Empire from Iraq.

RT reports that Biden has approved an arms sale to Qatar that the Qataris wanted back in 2020 to enhance security for the World Cup. Now that the Cup's happening without the equipment from that billion-dollar sale, will the Qataris still want it? I hope they say, Thanks, but we don't need it now.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 19:37 utc | 20

Whatever job you have in the US is being paid in USD so if the USD is 'crushed' wouldn't earnings basically become worthless as a result? For example, we'll end up needing wheelbarrows of cash for a loaf of bread.

Posted by: Nathan in WA US | Nov 30 2022 18:44 utc | 14

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Pro tip: During the period of German hyperinflation, wages were paid early in the morning every day. Workers immediately gave the money to their wives, who ran to buy groceries as quickly as possible, because they did not know if they could pay with it later in the day.

So always remember to keep your wife in a good mood. :)

Posted by: Nobody | Nov 30 2022 19:41 utc | 21

Protests = regime change

I am amused that whenever there is a protest in a country on the U.S's enemies list, it is a sign of imminent regime change. But if there is a protest in the west, it is the sign of a healthy democracy or completely ignored.

Posted by: Christian Chuba | Nov 30 2022 20:01 utc | 22

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 18:34 utc | 12

Here is the article James posted yesterday:

Zoltan Pozsar: We are witnessing the birth of a new world monetary order

Posted by: Zet | Nov 30 2022 20:12 utc | 23

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 30 2022 19:01 utc | 16

No kidding. That's a good idea. Also propane. Keeps longer than most fuels.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 30 2022 20:37 utc | 24

Booze, benzos, guns, ammo (shot and slug), propane, uppers (OTC i.e., caffeine and pseudoephedrine and pharmaceutical), pain killers (OTC and pharma), nicotine of various forms, antibiotics and of course bITcOiN!!!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 30 2022 20:40 utc | 25

@ pretzelattack | Nov 30 2022 17:10 utc | 8

lol...my brother was saying that a few months ago... i went and bought a few extra bottles of irish whisky... i think food is a better bet.. we all need food..

@ Oriental Voice | Nov 30 2022 18:59 utc | 15

it is very predictable, isn't it? another idea here is that western msm is trying to suggest we have it so great here in the west... i think a few things are going on with all of this, but it is mostly a waste of time on the part of the west as i see it..

@ Zet | Nov 30 2022 20:12 utc | 23

do you think pepe, alastair crooke and other investigative journalists read moa?? sure looks like it.. thanks for pointing that parallel out..

Posted by: james | Nov 30 2022 20:40 utc | 26

Brian Berletic takes a peek at Anwar Ibrahim and his NED associates plus a broad assessment of Malaysian national government changes.

This is a fully referenced utoob presentation of 46 minutes.

Looks like the Malacca straights are going to remain hot and sweaty - Washington style. More US poking China in the eye.


Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 30 2022 20:54 utc | 27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_JeHH5mW14

Three 'genetic defects' of the Western model
by
Zhang Weiwei.

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 30 2022 21:07 utc | 28

pretzelattack #16 don't forget the bullets! Hard not to keep the booze for yourself, you'll need it.

karloft1 #19 Thanks, makes me a feel little bit better that we probably won't end up needing wheelbarrows of cash...

The sense of impending doom is buzzing...speaking of buzzing it's time to stock up on more booze!

Posted by: Nathan in WA US | Nov 30 2022 21:09 utc | 29

; And while millions have thus been taken from the impoverished south and poured into the lap of the rich north, the south has paid it uncomplainingly...

While thus from the beginning of this government the south has paid it's share of taxes and borne it's share of burdens, receiving only a minor portion of public disbursements...

Page 34 -The Gray Book Committee

Posted by: meow | Nov 30 2022 21:41 utc | 30

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 18:34 utc | 12

Is a complete crypto collapse a way of burning several trillions of dollars?

Posted by: PDidds | Nov 30 2022 22:18 utc | 31

Not sure Zoltan possesses any substantive material to support his jargon riddled assertion. He is seriously challenged by one of his close associates but all that is locked behind a Bloomberg pay wall.

My take away is I'd rather read Hudson's analysis on the open media. Methinks Zoltan is the voice of the oppressor.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 30 2022 22:47 utc | 32

If Turkey invades Syria will the US withdraw its occupying troops?

There are clearly not enough to fight the Turks, just enough to steal the oil and wheat.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 30 2022 22:50 utc | 33

The guardian is full of shite. Taken over by the UK MIC and likely the guardian trust was compulsorily acquired by same when Russ Berger was forced to shred and smash hard drives.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 30 2022 22:52 utc | 34

"Israelis Are Not Welcome in Qatar During the 2022 World Cup" documents how the people treat media and others from Occupied Palestine. The opening graphs:

Israeli citizens and journalists are allowed in Qatar in a FIFA agreement during the 2022 World Cup now underway in Doha. Being allowed to enter a country to watch football, or to cover an event as a journalist or media crew, is far different than being welcome.

Israeli journalists have reported numerous interactions with football fans and locals in Qatar that let them know they are not welcome because they are from Israel.

Moav Vardi, Israeli channel KAN 11, was told by a football fan on live TV from Doha, “It is Palestine, there is no Israel. Go, please. You are not welcome here. This is Qatar, this is our country – you are not welcome here. There is only Palestine. There is no Israel.”

And a few more:

Ohad Hamo, Israeli channel 12, was conducting live interviews of fans in Doha but was refused by all Arab fans. After being frustrated, he said, “I don’t know why?”

If an Israeli does not know why Arab fans would be hostile and unwelcoming of an Israeli in Qatar, then that demonstrates the lack of understanding and responsibility of keeping five million persons in an open-air prison....

Palestinian flags are flying all over Doha and fans are also holding the flags. This was sure to be a surprise to Israeli journalists because the flag is banned from being displayed in public anywhere in Israel or the occupied West Bank. The journalists also reported unwelcoming comments from restaurants and taxi drivers.

There's more, and I must admit to feeling some satisfaction at the illegal occupiers of Palestine being made uncomfortable as they well should given their role in abetting the crimes against Palestinians. I very much doubt this sort of news will appear in any western media product, so please share it!

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 23:03 utc | 35

uncle tungsten @32--

Zoltan's presentation was meant for insiders only but made its way out into the mainstream. Despite his use of jargon, his meaning can be deciphered. As I mentioned at the time, I asked Hudson about the report, and he provided some deciphering and agreed with most of the message. I searched Hudson's site, but no mention of it's there.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 23:10 utc | 36

Oriental Voice@15

It is a sad but important fact that among the useful idiots promoting the CIA imperialist agenda in China (and elsewhere) are the legions of Covid Deniers.
If, as they claim, and they are told by people like Global Research, the Covid pandemic was unimportant, a hoax, part of a plan to school the people into blind obedience etc etc, then the demos in China are reasonable. And the PRC government's policies are at best mistaken but most likely part of the "conspiracy against humanity."
The truth is as we know, quite otherwise: the PRC and other countries (many East Asian) which followed its lead and tried to nip the virus in the bud were and are correct. They are fighting a lonely battle for humanity against our enemies the capitalists.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 30 2022 23:18 utc | 37

Persians (????) claim Germany JS about exiting European Energy Charter

https://t.me/parstodayrussian/116628

If true it would be huge.

EU for many years pledges economic war on GazProm because Russia refused to be ruled by that Charter.

Posted by: Arioch | Nov 30 2022 23:18 utc | 38

@ uncle tungsten | Nov 30 2022 22:47 utc | 32

that's interesting what you say.. voice of an oppressor.. yes -perhaps... the reason i shared the link as his analysis and name came up in a link that karlof1 had initially posted which i thought was excellent..The Irreversibility of Change and Prospects for Survival actually karlof1 thought the article was excellent too which i why i made a point of reading it.. at any rate - if you haven't read it - you might think so too!

Posted by: james | Nov 30 2022 23:22 utc | 39

@ Arioch | Nov 30 2022 23:18 utc | 38

sounds plausible... see reuters article from 1 week ago..

EXPLAINER-Why might the EU pull out of the Energy Charter Treaty?

Posted by: james | Nov 30 2022 23:29 utc | 40

@32 uncle tungsten | Nov 30 2022 22:47 utc

I think Zoltan's great insight was the concept of outside money and inside money - namely, value derived from resources versus value derived from fiat paper with foam on top. I think that's a priceless template to measure events by.

This has certainly been playing out exactly as one would think from using that concept as a basis. We are certainly going to have an eastern exchange currency based on a basket of currencies combined with valuable resources such as hydrocarbons and serious metals - outside money.

All of that's happening now, and Escobar's latest is just one more breathless "Hooray!" for this coming change in the world. The free nations are pursuing it single-mindedly now, and it's very close to hitting the street, it seems.

Against the new, there will persist the old, and for how long, and at what exchange values, and in terms of what it will actually buy, all remain to be seen, or at least forecast in a reliable way.

And like Nathan up-thread, we're all waiting for that reliable forecast, and keeping our spreadsheet open.

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Personally, I've been looking for a reliable global currency for a decade. I was interested in bitcoin of course but it rapidly became traded like an asset and thus became worthless as a currency.

A stable currency tied to the future rather than the past is coming - and it's an Eastern future, of course - and I'm ready to trade whatever I have in USD holdings for that currency when it comes. But will the US allow its people to trade in that currency, or will it sanction it? How usable will that new card be in practical terms? As the western force closes ranks against the new contender, how navigable will the western space remain, and for how long, to deal in that old dollar? And at what costs?

Add to this, several more questions that remain to be answered.

Nathan, don't worry, we'll be discussing this forever now until it all becomes clear. You are not alone.

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 30 2022 23:30 utc | 41

@james | Nov 30 2022 23:29 utc | 40

Good one, thanks!

The ECT aims to promote energy security by protecting energy firms against risks to their investments and trade, such as having their assets seized or contracts breached.

It grants the right to challenge governments over policies that could harm investments - not just in fossil fuels but also in hydropower, solar, wind and other clean energy sources.

Makes me wonder if EU policy of prohibitting EU pay for Russia's energy quiakifies as "policy" here.

It was drawn up at the fall of the Soviet Union to protect European energy firms with fossil fuel assets in ex-Soviet states.

...and when Russia asked her companies to be protected from abuses by EU governments - the snow negroes were shown a finger. And then evil Russia deviously scrapped the treaty.

But now EU itself fears the tool it created. Talk about hoisting on own petards.

Posted by: Arioch | Nov 30 2022 23:40 utc | 42

Putin was busy with two important meetings today, government ministers and meeting devoted to the opening of social facilities across Russia: "And now Let's see how the work on commissioning social facilities is going. This is and school buildings built from scratch and overhauled and hospitals, cultural institutions, as well as residential buildings and utilities. All this is necessary for people, our citizens, families with children in all regions of our big country."

What I want to highlight for MoA readers is reported in the first link. Russia, thanks to the USSR before it, is seen as being environmentally irresponsible. Actually, it's far more responsible than the Outlaw US Empire and EU, but the bad rap remains, and Russia is sensitive about it, with Putin having taken the lead on this issue back when he was PM. These are Putin's words of introduction:

"Victoria Valerievna [Abramchenko] – I mentioned this at the previous event – This morning she told me that our environmental agenda – despite everything and in comparison even with other countries – is still actively developing and is one of the most important components of our joint work. Victoria Valerievna, there is such a topic as work on recyclables, on processed raw materials, and the processing of raw materials itself. How is the work on the creation of closed enterprises Cycle?"

Putin, many members of Russia's government along with many Russians are aware of the toxic inheritance left by the USSR (one of Putin's many goals is to combat the cancers that inheritance has caused, thus his focus on specialized oncological institutes spanning Russia's regions), and also the need to move the political-economy to what's known as a steady-state condition before the end of the century. So, yes, Russia is very big on "green" economic components, far more so IMO than any Western country where the Green Agenda is relentlessly promoted but nothing of substance is done (mandatory recycling being one very basic aspect). And to prove all that, here's part of Victoria's machine translated report (the English transcript omits this entire section):

V.Abramchenko:Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich!

Dear colleagues!

One of the sharpest environmental problems at present absolutely for all states continues to be a large amount of production and consumption waste. For example, every year in the oceans there is 10 million tons of plastic waste, and if nothing changes, then by 2050 the weight of plastic debris in the ocean will be more than the weight of all fish stocks. That is why, together with conscious consumption, reduction of waste generation is necessary to actively implement the principles of a circular economy.

Last year, we prepared such a federal project. This one the project was supported by Mikhail Vladimirovich [Mishustin] and included in the list of key initiatives for the socio-economic development of Russia until 2030. The task of this project is to create infrastructure and conditions for reuse use of waste. By 2030, the share of secondary resources used in construction should reach 40 percent, in agriculture – 50 percent, and in industry will exceed 30.

To achieve these goals, the first thing that was needed was To do so, to prepare a regulatory framework. All normative acts had already been adopted, including a basic law on secondary material resources. Based on its requirements, secondary resources are recyclable and from 2030 will be are forbidden to be buried.

Second. An eco-industrial park should appear in every federal district, including processing sites recyclables from different types of waste. For construction of eight such eco-industrial parks The government has provided for in the budget necessary funds in the amount of 9.4 billion rubles and another 909 million rubles allocated for their design. Heads of regions of Moscow, Leningrad, Nizhny Novgorod, Chelyabinsk, Novosibirsk regions, Stavropol, Krasnodar, Primorsky Krai has already selected land plots for construction.

Most the first and active region in the creation of the eco-industrial park was the Stavropol Territory. Now on these lands Surveys are being completed. We will start construction next year.

Each eco-industrial park will be linked to investment projects for the production of new products from recycled materials. We are extended measures of state support to industrial industrial parks to these facilities. An additional incentive to attract investors served to create at the expense of budgetary funds the entire engineering infrastructure. As a result, 25 companies have already signed an agreement on the establishment of 44 productions at the sites of eco-industrial parks.

For example, in the Moscow region it is planned to create a production facility for the disposal of organic waste, construction waste complex, glass and used tires. In the Leningrad Region, Stavropol and Krasnodar Territories – [for waste disposal] polymers and the creation of enterprises for the production of alternative fuels from waste. In the Nizhny Novgorod region, there will be a production of wood-polymer materials and materials for road construction. Production raw materials for new food packaging and heat-insulating building materials will be established in the Chelyabinsk region.

The third important block of the project is stimulation of the use of recyclables in the economy. We started with public procurement. From January 1 next years in public procurement, for example, paper products or paving slabs should be given priority to products containing recyclables. Appropriate the resolution has been signed.

For the government is preparing and industry-specific Program. Two such have already been approved. sectoral programs for industry and the construction complex, two more programs - for agriculture and the use of alternative fuels from waste - will be approved before the end of this year. [My Emphasis]

And there's more to the report plus specifics on the project in the Stavropol Territory. This endeavor like almost every ongoing project in Russia is a collaboration between Russia's government and its business sector. The report about the aviation sector follows the above report, so you get to discover what its director has done with 172 billion rubles in subsidies to support civilian aviation.

As I continue to document, these are the actions/aspects of Socialism with Russian Characteristics that differ little from China's pathway. The aim of both is betterment of the people and thus the nation and is what the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals want to prevent and are willing to kill many thousands in the process as we're seeing in Ukraine. So, yes, the above is yet another tile in the overall mosaic being made anew by the non-Western world.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 23:54 utc | 43

EU Reportedly Threatens to Ban Twitter Bloc-Wide Unless Musk Follows New Moderation Rules https://sputniknews.com/20221130/eu-reportedly-threatens-to-ban-twitter-bloc-wide-unless-musk-follows-new-moderation-rules-1104913554.html

The warning came from European Commissioner for the Internal Market Thierry Breton during his video call with Musk earlier in the day, people with knowledge of the conversation told the Financial Times.
Breton, who is in charge of implementing the EU’s digital rules, urged Musk to adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an "arbitrary" approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation "aggressively" and agreeing to an "extensive independent audit" of the social network by 2023, according to the report.
Unless Twitter follows the EU's new Digital Services Act, it could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6% of global turnover, the report said.

Paranoid Fascists not far removed from their NAZI roots.

"Parallel to the training of the body, a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for _______________ ...

Posted by: Laurence | Nov 30 2022 23:55 utc | 44

@ Grieved | Nov 30 2022 23:30 utc | 41

thanks for articulating that grieved! my brian is mush, but you said what i intuited from the article..

@ Arioch | Nov 30 2022 23:40 utc | 42

it sounds bizarre to me! i think you are right -> "Talk about hoisting on own petards." we've been seeing a lot of this from the eu lately..

Posted by: james | Nov 30 2022 23:57 utc | 45

Quote posted by: karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 23:03 utc | 35

"Israeli journalists have reported numerous interactions with football fans and locals in Qatar that let them know they are not welcome because they are from Israel....

"Palestinian flags are flying all over Doha and fans are also holding the flags. This was sure to be a surprise to Israeli journalists because the flag is banned from being displayed in public anywhere in Israel or the occupied West Bank. The journalists also reported unwelcoming comments from restaurants and taxi drivers."

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This brought to mind a quote from Che that I've always loved:

"We must carry the war into every corner the enemy happens to carry it, to his home, to his centers of entertainment: a total war. It is necessary to prevent him from having a moment of peace, a quiet moment outside his barracks or even inside; we must attack him wherever he may be, make him feel like a cornered beast wherever he may move. Then his moral fiber shall begin to decline, but we shall notice how the signs of decadence begin to disappear."


Posted by: Vintage Red | Dec 1 2022 0:12 utc | 46

@11 Nathan in WA US | Nov 30 2022 18:32 utc

I love gold and the sound it rings out when you flip a coin in the air - who couldn't love a noble metal?

But here in the US, I see three drawbacks to holding it. One is that its exchange price is still being manipulated in markets that ordinary people do not control, and the value is being held down.

Two is that it's difficult to transact in gold or even silver on a routine basis for daily needs. You pretty much have to trade the metal for the currency of the day in order to spend it efficiently. I don't know how much of a gray or black economy we have in the US, or how much these will grow, but today at least, the metals don't strike me as a handy medium of exchange. Store of value, yes - except see point One above.

And then third, the US government could confiscate precious metals held by citizens. No, they won't find your stash buried in the garden, but when you need to convert it to cash currency (see point two above), they'll get you.

~~

I would much rather buy something backed by gold for real - and I mean physical gold that you can take possession of and hold in your hand. I believe this is available in Shanghai through the exchange there, and it's gold denominated in Yuan, I think - but now I go past the limits of my knowledge. Must study more.

Even better, however, I like the new currency being developed that Escobar writes about in his latest. A global card of solid "outside money" that reaches as close as Brazil - and maybe Mexico? - that's enticing. And coming closer every day - timing, as always, will be everything.

~~

If I were you I would want to know how liquid I was, and not in terms of booze ;) How quickly could you convert your wealth into currency, presumably USD, and what would you trade that currency for? How long would it take? What's the distance between being trapped in a system you're not happy with and getting into a system that seems safe? What's the cost of doing this? Etc, etc...

And if you stay in the Dollar, do you own or could you hold an interest in a rental property? Yes, I know, rentier scum and such, but it's the only game in town for homeowners in the US right now. That might be a way to remain in the game, denominated in USD, and still have a margin that at least floats up with inflation.

And is there a way to hedge your bets and defray some risk by plunging half of your wealth into one side of the fence, and the other half in the other? As they say in the entertainment biz, don't give up your day job. At least, not until you know exactly the move you're making.

I'm not asking you to supply any of this information, by the way, and I don't want to know - just suggesting these are some of the things that it seems to me one should consider, and calculate closely.

But let us all know when you figure it out because many people will follow you through that window :)

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 1 2022 0:14 utc | 47

karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 23:54 utc | 43

Thanks for that report.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 1 2022 0:14 utc | 48

uncle tungsten | Nov 30 2022 22:52 utc | 34

National interest trumps our so called rule of law. When you look into the abyss, national interest looks back.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 1 2022 0:21 utc | 49

Laurence @44--

I find the Twitter Saga very informative, so thanks for posting that unsurprising item. One of the Four Freedoms--allied WW2 goals--is Freedom of Speech which we now see being eroded by many of those same allied nations. Lula today demanded Assange's release.

Grieved @41--

Yes, what currency to have is an excellent question. Currently, I favor Mexico's Peso because Chinese and Russian financial instruments can be purchased through Mexican banks with Pesos, and Mexico's oh so close. I discovered that info by looking onto buying Mexican gold coins via its central bank earlier this year. I seem to recall posting a comment related to that then. There's very good precedent not to trust the US Government when it comes to tangible assets--recall FDR's order to seize gold and Nixon's curtailment of the gold-backed dollar--both without Congressional consent. For a long term investment, Venezuelan Bolivars will be backed by some very serious resources and are very cheap presently--just keep them outside the Empire. I'd imagine you could also purchase those in Mexico too and hold them there.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 1 2022 0:25 utc | 50

Council of EU Greenlights Visa-Free Travel for Kosovo Passport Holders https://sputniknews.com/20221130/council-of-eu-greenlights-visa-free-travel-for-kosovo-passport-holders-1104887741.html

😆

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 1 2022 0:31 utc | 51

Electric Buses in Moscow Use Biofuel From Used Frying Oil for Heating - Company https://sputniknews.com/20221130/electric-buses-in-moscow-use-biofuel-from-used-frying-oil-for-heating---company-1104908294.html

"We started separating and recycling waste, and not just frying oil, a long time ago. We send about 5,000 tons of oil per year for processing, of which about 3,000 tons are used for the production of biodiesel fuel, which is used for heating electric buses. Today we are meeting all the needs of Mosgortrans [state-owned company operating bus and electric bus networks] during the heating season of 2022-2023. We are the first and only one in Russia who are implementing such a project,"

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 1 2022 0:34 utc | 52

@50 karlof1 | Dec 1 2022 0:25 utc

Thanks for that very compelling response. If you get a chance and read my subsequent comment @47, I would welcome any further thoughts you may have, if any.

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 1 2022 0:42 utc | 53

O o ,,, Nah.

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 1 2022 0:31 utc | 51
[various activities]
Posted by: Laurence | Dec 1 2022 0:34 utc | 52

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 1 2022 0:46 utc | 54

To Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 29 2022 23:27 utc | 272, and above, on the last open forum (Not Ukraine) concerning plagiarism by Alistair Crooke: thanks so much for your careful response!

First, when I wrote my post to which you responded, it was late at night here (for me), so I hadn't read further than your first accusation - I hadn't read the long post where you put texts in parallel to make what I think is a well founded claim.

My own experience reading Crooke's articles has been on the whole favorable mostly because I enjoy reading or hearing explanatory messages that clarify something I've had trouble understanding. It seemed to me that the 'civilizations' argument helped explain cultural and historical terminology, and that those were being looked at in a differend and interesting way. And with karlof's assistance I understood more when going to the links in the article, in particular the Z final link - as karlof's link to the earlier Russian essay about Z was very helpful in explaining the perceptions of the Russian people as all the stressful events of the SMO unfold.

So, I went to bed without going further, and I now apologize to you. I think your concern is merited on the Alistair Crooke essay, which concern you have substantiated. I am sorry I put my own fogginess and eagerness to learn before proper protocol; you have answered me well, and fairly. Thank you again.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 1 2022 0:48 utc | 55

Was going to append this to my previous tweet. ...

You see the signs, but you can't read
You're running at a different speed
Your heart beats in double time
__________________________
A one-track mind, you can't be saved
Oblivion is all you crave
If there's some left for you
You don't mind if you do
Whoa, you like to think that you're immune to the stuff, oh yeah
It's closer to the truth to say you can't get enough
You know you're gonna have to face it, you're _____________

MLMV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 1 2022 1:05 utc | 56

Thanks to karlof1 and others for the links and discussion about the coming global finance neutron bomb

If/when a new money is created that has some definable conversion to things of value external like FOOD, energy, resource/precious metals and other resources, as well as internal like nations currencies. the establishment of the value linkage will force the US dollar to do the same or not be convertible and there will be an ugly phase where this is worked out temporarily and/or permanently.

What to do to prepare.

It depends on how long before the adults take over in the West.
Property is likely a long term good investment as long as you own it, can pay taxes on it and/or make payments to maintain "ownership".
Holding industrial/precious metals has been covered mostly and says we will revert to some form of barter for some period before a new "money" is agreed to in all or parts of the West and connect with the RoW.

The God of Mammon cult is relying on propaganda to keep the masses focused on hating left/right and Non-God of Mammon others and how long that house of cards holds up will determine how long the "crazy" goes on....hopefully not long at all if the example is clear of what is going down.

and the typepad 503 errors return

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 1 2022 1:16 utc | 57

Grieved @53--

If I had the resources, I'd build several thousand apartment units here in Oregon in the coastal regions of Lincoln and Lane counties where I live as that sort of housing is essentially absent, and they'd get rented almost immediately. That would be supplying a need, and I wouldn't look for maximum profitability either for that's negating the need part. But that's here. As for the future, I placed my bet twenty years ago when we moved to Oregon, and I still have chips in front of me. I do worry about what I can't control, but most of all that's 3,000 miles away.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 1 2022 1:22 utc | 58

@55 juliania | Dec 1 2022 0:48 utc

Crooke has been writing this way for a long time, to a greater or lesser degree. I always assumed it's because he expects his readers to follow and read the links he provides - which he always cites, if not in the immediate article then in a proximate one.

The value of Crooke to me is twofold. He himself elaborates his own themes over several pieces. More importantly to me, he takes the time to find and read essays that readers might not otherwise find - certainly I never would. Personally, I don't call it plagiarism when you cite your source, and when you in fact pay homage to your source, as he frequently does.

He mashes it all in, and when he uses the exact terms and language of the source that he's drawing from, I usually read it more carefully because these are the pieces that bear repeating, and I count it more a form of admiration than stealing. You have to have read his links to know this, but either way you get the best meaning, whether from Crooke or his source. That's just me of course. For what it's worth, he does exactly the same with ancient authors and concepts long past copyrighting.

Crooke is an analyst synthesizing what presents, into what it might mean. He comes up with his own words and meanings also, as well as simplifying, into today's moment, themes that are deeper or less accessible. I appreciate this, because whatever he writes, I can usually count on there being something afoot - even when it's not immediately clear in one article.

I personally find great value in Crooke's writings, and I appreciate his introductions to the many other authors and concepts that I otherwise would not have known.

I just wanted to share that value with you - not to debate the matter especially, but just to honor the message, and the messenger who brings it.

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 1 2022 1:28 utc | 59

@ karlof1 | Dec 1 2022 1:22 utc | 58

karl, is that sharks seafood and bar still running in newport? food was fantastic last time i was their!

Posted by: james | Dec 1 2022 1:29 utc | 60

@ karlof1 | Nov 30 2022 18:34 utc | 12

Thankyou, as always.

As suspected, given China & Japan alone dumping $2Trillion+ in just last two month, we're headed for a Wiemar Republic level of inflation & economic collapse & concurrent trade isolation. All them Trillions upon Trillions of USD$ are coming home to roost, all alongside more than a centuries worth of associated & accumulated from RoW, even vassals, 'Blowback'. A hard rain is gonna fall ...

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 1 2022 1:49 utc | 61

@ Oriental Voice | Nov 30 2022 18:59 utc | 15

Falung Gong, Epoch Times, SCMP, classic western cult & foreign religious subversion cells rallied, covert TLA NGO's, etc, all co-ordinated by recently created encrypted Telegram channels. Unsurprising.

Oh, expect all the photos & footage of upheld blank sheets of paper to be 'recycled' in the coming years, with 'Slogans' inserted/digitally overlayed applicable to future fictional 'incidents', false propaganda narratives to support more Big Lies down the track.

This current Op, and what will follow from it, is solely targeted at the already indoctrinated, propagandized electronic 'Soma' addicted sheeple of the Golden Billion, 'secure' in their Matrix like 'Garden'.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 1 2022 2:01 utc | 62

Thank you, Grieved | Dec 1 2022 1:28 utc | 59. That is very helpful, and I would agree with everything you have said. I appeared to have offended SeanAU, and not having answered until today, I attempted to set things right with him.

I will continue to appreciate Alistair Crooke's writing and follow karlof1's links for the reasons I put forward. They still stand, and I appreciate greatly all efforts here to bring essays to our attention, as well as the links they contain. I hope I haven't insulted anyone; that was not my intention, originally or in my last post. We all can't read everything, so I very much appreciate what good writers do, as also the good readers we have here. If I've made matters worse in seeing how an objection clarified made sense after I had not read that clarification, I'll apologize for that as well. The important thing is the search for truth, and all of you have my respect for making that possible.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 1 2022 2:02 utc | 63

@ karlof1 | 10

"You want chaos American-style a la Hong Kong and everywhere else."

Me: you want Xi Jinping Weibo / Covid app top lock down "order" a la Xi Jinping CCP in the PRC and everywhere else.

In the chaos/order circle both ends meet: Karlof1 and the WEF are one the same page here !!

One little problem: Karlof1's favorite Chinese workers don't want that order, because they are human, not animals, slaves nor factory robots.

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 1 2022 2:08 utc | 64

@ pretzelattack | Nov 30 2022 19:01 utc | 16

Ah no, NOT guns, Ammunition! Any and all kinds ...

All the guns are just junk metal, without the right caliber & type of ammunition, let alone any ammo at all. Same for hand-loading equipment, powder & primers to re-use cases ... as a form of 'currency'.

The State will seize & control all available sources of ammunition first & foremost. Then available weapons stocks/production.

Gun owners, 1/3 or more of population, will trade handsomely for ammo ...

PS: No, am not a gun-nut, survivalist, etc. Simply rational logical forethought & extrapolation.

@ Antonym | Dec 1 2022 2:08 utc | 64

CPC. Human, bot.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 1 2022 2:18 utc | 65

@ pretzelattack | Nov 30 2022 19:01 utc | 16

PS Every form of medical supplies & materiel accessible. Especially aspirins, ibuprofen, antibiotics, anti-bacterial creams, sterile bandages & trauma kits, slings, cheap simple braces/splints, liquid, spray-on & cream anesthetics.

Quantities of jars of 'pure' unprocessed natural honey & Manuka honey, possibly small hive/s for its natural antibacterial & anti-fungal, etc properties. Lots of cheap white spreadsheets for production of home made ad-hoc bandages/bindings.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 1 2022 2:33 utc | 66

Those look pretty good.
When I was a child, we used to make an event of baking pumpkin pies and apple pies around Thanksgiving time (pretty good too).
Happy Yule Tide.

Posted by: Josh | Dec 1 2022 2:37 utc | 67

RT is running an article on Poland taking back land from Ukraine that Stalin stole. They are looking for a reason and plan to use the Russian referendum model. In other news, Belarus has been allowing the Russians to build up on their southern border. Belarus has also been sending troops there as well. Belarus had land stolen by Stalin as well. So Poland pulls some "peace keeper" shit. Belarus says fuck it. Hungary does the same. What's left ain't much.

Oh...and China invades Taiwan.

All that happens at once what is the US going to do? Nothing. Let them fight it out.

Posted by: Peter Kurten | Dec 1 2022 2:48 utc | 68

@ uncle tungsten | Nov 30 2022 22:52 utc | 34

Post hard drive destruction Guardian nominee was added to MI5 Security Committee to oversight media control & secret 'D' notice issuance(IIRC). Totally suborned ever since, profound fundamental shift of Guardian content globally inline with Empire propaganda narrative ...

@ Peter Kurten | Dec 1 2022 2:48 utc | 68

Why would China ever Militarily 'invade' Taiwan when they've already demonstrated they can at a moments notice 'quarantine' & 'embargo' the entire island indefinitely until the Taiwanese 'wake-up' from their subornation to Empire going back 72 years ? Threat of 'Invasion' is a long running Empire propaganda trope IMHO.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 1 2022 2:57 utc | 69

@ James 60
Are you referring to Baja sharkeez?
Or Sharks seafood?
Either one is overpriced, but the food at Sharks is better.
Any place on the spit, or in Newport for that matter, is overpriced.
But hey, you’re paying a premium for the location.
Newport IS beautiful. And if you like the Oregon coast, it’s worth it.
I’ve a friend who retired there. I’ve visited him a few times
and always been impressed with how upscale Newport is.
Brookings is nice, but Newport is “hot”, Oregon wise.
It’s just expensive compared to all the other towns on the coast.
Try Gold Beach or Coos Bay next time. I think you’ll find all the Oregon coast you want, for 1/2 the price.

Posted by: Theodore Roosevelt | Dec 1 2022 3:00 utc | 70

@ Theodore Roosevelt | Dec 1 2022 3:00 utc | 70

sharks in newport beach... i agree it is all overpriced, but we enjoyed it quite a bit..

Posted by: james | Dec 1 2022 3:05 utc | 71

juliania | Dec 1 2022 0:48 utc | 55

First you didn't "offend" me, so don't worry about that. Apology is accepted albeit it really isn't necessary juliania, but thank you for caring so much.

RE "the 'civilizations' argument helped explain cultural and historical terminology"

IF you like that notion/idea for whatever reason that's fine.

I separate the ideas behind 'civilisation states' etc which can be / are useful worth knowing about from whatever source they come to you -- and the fact of someone being a prolific plagiarizer. These are two different issues entirely to me. And I suspect you already understand that given your comments.

So thank you.

Lastly, I have had too much experience in researching, locating plagiarism and with the serious impacts of that upon people's lives and choices. Coping with the denial reaction in well meaning decent people who have been misled is a major challenge I am quite sensitive too ( I posted what I did with some trepidation knowing this.) Because no matter the amount of evidence presented some cannot be convinced it exists or is a problem and go on the attack to defend their beloved "writer".

IN some cases the downstream long term effects of plagiarism can be extremely harmful personally. IN many ways it is inter-related with, very similar to what propaganda and outright fraud can do to people. It's important to me because it is very much about what is and what is not true - about both what is being "written" and the people writing it.

Thank you for the reply, it is really appreciated.

If anyone wishes to see the compiled examples see here:
SeanAU | Nov 29 2022 21:09 utc | 264
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/the-moa-week-in-review-not-ukraine-ot-2022-209/comments/page/3/#comments

Posted by: SeanAU | Dec 1 2022 3:25 utc | 72

Britain on Tuesday summoned the Chinese ambassador in London for a rebuke after the arrest and alleged assault of a BBC journalist covering Covid protests

Detention of BBC journalist in China was "shocking and unacceptable" - UK PM Sunak spokesman

Sunak called China a threat to the world, US in particular.


Rishi Sunak has said the so-called "golden era" of relations with China is over, as he vowed to "evolve" the UK's stance towards the country.

LIke how ?

Do those limeys figure they can still send their gunboats up the Yangzhi to teach them chinaman who'r the boss here... just like the good ole days ?

Posted by: denk | Dec 1 2022 4:00 utc | 73

Oh...and China invades Taiwan.

All that happens at once what is the US going to do? Nothing. Let them fight it out.

Posted by: Peter Kurten | Dec 1 2022 2:48 utc | 68

---------------
A sample of western BS headlines...

Will Zelenky drags us into war with Russia ?

Can war with China be avoided ?

Yeah sure, the reluctant cowboy being
dragged into another war, screaming and kicking all the way !

gimme a fucking break fella !

Posted by: denk | Dec 1 2022 4:09 utc | 74

It just came to me how to describe the neutron part of the "bomb" that a value-based monetary system would represent.

A speculation of what a breadbasket approach to underpin money might look like would include things which I mention in my previous comment:
FOOD ( to big to fit in small box)
energy,
resource/precious metals and
other resources,
as well as nations currencies

The point I want to make here is that when the alternative is available with the value based support described above, what is the West going to put forward to back the US Dollar at the same level of value support?.....that doesn't come out of the end of a gun!

POTENTIAL BIG BOOM INCOMING!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 1 2022 4:10 utc | 75

The US is claming that the new ISIL boss has been taken out in Deraa... by the Free Syrian Army! A fight over the last box of captagon turned deadly perhaps?

In all seriousness, this is a bizarre story. The FSA has been defunct for years now, with its role as Turkish proxy taken over by the Syrian National Army (SNA) and US proxy by the SDF. Deraa has been liberated for some time also, with low intensity conflict between the Syrian govt and various jihadi groups still ongoing.

Hopefully more reliable information will emerge, another secret from the Dirty War on Syria to come out in the wash...

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Dec 1 2022 4:59 utc | 76

Re Zoltan

Thank you all. I guess its good that someone at Credit Suisse has awoken to the fact that a new world order is emerging based on reality and absent the substantial foam topped puffery of the west.

I trust his employer is ethical and takes his thoughts as meaningful and changes its ways rather than dispose of this messenger. Certainly if the likes of Credit Suisse are to remain in business beyond ten more years, they will need to heed the foundations of resource AND labor based wealth creation.

BOTH are the essence of sustainable economy.

It remains that his thoughts are second hand and the inventors of this new world have written and delivered public treatises well before this dude gets his name in print behind a paywall.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 1 2022 5:06 utc | 77

Posted by: SeanAU | Dec 1 2022 3:25 utc | 72

I'm glad I didn't upset you with my post. It was my fault for not going to the end of the thread and seeing all you were presenting. Had I done so, I think I would have refrained from commenting at all as my idea of plagiarism is very different. So yes, that is a separate argument one might have that doesn't deal with the importance of the subject under discussion. Not an argument I feel myself worthy to debate at this time. But I could see you had gone to considerable length to present yours, and that didn't deserve my, for me, strong comment. That was what troubled me, not your assessment.

As I said, I have learned much through these essays and their links; I value the compilers of essays explaining issues we all are troubled about, and Alistair Crooke, to me, does this well. I don't see issues in his writing since his essays have original intent - but I see we disagree on that, so apologies again; I will leave it at that.

Thanks again for responding.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 1 2022 5:12 utc | 78

denk #73

Do those limeys figure they can still send their gunboats up the Yangzhi to teach them chinaman who'r the boss here... just like the good ole days ?

It is possible that they are more confident now they have their stooge Mahatir as president of Malaysia.

Perhaps they think an english warship strutting about in the Strait of Malacca and Strait of Singapore will frighten the China dragon into submission.

There is very little wriggle room and, going by USA destroyer idiocy in freight lanes, there is every chance of collision or even some punitive lessons from the dragon king.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 1 2022 5:19 utc | 79

Outraged #69

Post hard drive destruction Guardian nominee was added to MI5 Security Committee to oversight media control & secret 'D' notice issuance(IIRC). Totally suborned ever since, profound fundamental shift of Guardian content globally inline with Empire propaganda narrative ...

Exactly that. One day it had occasional interesting reports but was getting tired and uncertain.

Then it published Snowden "On Saturday 20 July 2013, in the basement of the Guardian's office in Kings Cross, London, watched by two GCHQ technicians, Guardian editors destroyed hard drives and memory cards on which encrypted files leaked by Edward Snowden had been stored. This is the first time footage of the event has been released"

Linked report:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/31/footage-released-guardian-editors-snowden-hard-drives-gchq

Ever since a lapdog of the insipid englander MOD.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 1 2022 5:30 utc | 80

On the subject of increasing totalitarianism in the west, this is what's going down in Ontario Canada this past night - Bill 100.
It remains to be seen how the authorities will interpret this and whether our weekly freedom rallies in my town will now be considered illegal.
Guess we will soon find out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRvEbaOgyI

Posted by: simon crow | Dec 1 2022 5:31 utc | 81

Patric Boyle presents some interviews with the thief at FTX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH9Mvo7V_rA

He meant well :/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 1 2022 5:41 utc | 82

Xinhuanet has a posting with the title
Uncertain times call for steady China-EU ties

Quote


From January to October, bilateral trade reached 711.3 billion U.S. dollars, a year-on-year increase of 6.3 percent. In the first eight months, the EU's FDI inflow into China jumped an astonishing 123.7 percent year-on-year, data from China's Ministry of Commerce showed.

Just how is the West going to cut ties with China? Data says the connections are increasing.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 1 2022 5:52 utc | 83

Below are two Xinhuanet posting with in the same comment because related


UNITED NATIONS, Nov. 30 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese envoy on Wednesday called for collective international efforts to solve the Palestine question.

The question of Palestine is at the core of the Middle East issue. A comprehensive and just solution is critical to regional peace and stability, as well as international fairness and justice, said Geng Shuang, China's deputy permanent representative to the United Nations.

Since the beginning of the year, the situation in the occupied Palestinian territory has continued to be volatile with renewed fighting in Gaza resulting in hundreds of civilian casualties and extensive infrastructure damage, as well as a flare-up of violent clashes in the West Bank, he told a General Assembly meeting on the question of Palestine and the situation in the Middle East.

"Facts once again prove that piecemeal crisis management cannot replace a comprehensive and just solution and that economic and humanitarian assistance as a temporary measure cannot close the entrenched political and security deficit," said Geng. "What is needed now is firm political will and effective diplomatic action and the collective efforts of the entire international community, including the Security Council."

He said China encourages Palestine and Israel to pursue common security.

Israel and Palestine are inseparable neighbors with interdependent and indivisible security. If one party's security is based on the other's insecurity, the cycle of violence will not be broken and the security dilemma cannot be overcome. The international community should pay equal attention to the security concerns of both sides and encourage them to find the greatest common ground through dialogue and cooperation to achieve common security, he said.

China calls for upholding international rule of law. Settlement activities violate international law, encroach on Palestinian land, expropriate Palestinian resources and squeeze the living space of the Palestinian people. China urges Israel to immediately cease all settlement activities, stop unilaterally changing the status quo in the occupied territory, and delineate the final borders through peaceful negotiations.

China supports the improvement of the Palestinian economy and livelihoods. China calls on Israel to ease unreasonable restrictions on land use and the movement of people in the occupied territory, create conditions for the development of Palestinian communities in the West Bank, and lift the blockade on Gaza as soon as possible. The international community should provide assistance to Palestine through multiple channels to help ease its financial crisis and guarantee public services, he said.

China urges the full implementation of the two-state solution. The search for a lasting solution on the basis of the two-state solution is international consensus and the only way forward, which must be firmly adhered to. The international community must translate the two-state solution from consensus into action and from vision into reality, he said.

Geng reiterated China's support for the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent state of Palestine based on the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as its capital, and for the peaceful coexistence of Palestine and Israel and the joint development of Arabs and Jews.

As a permanent member of the Security Council and a responsible major country, China will continue to work with the international community to practice true multilateralism and actively contribute to the achievement of a comprehensive, just and lasting solution to the Palestinian question and enduring peace, universal security and common prosperity in the Middle East, he said.


JERUSALEM, Nov. 30 (Xinhua) -- Israel said on Wednesday that it completed large-scale exercises with the U.S. Armed Forces that simulated strikes on the Iranian nuclear program.

The exercises simulated "various scenarios in the face of emerging threats in the region: first and foremost the Iranian threat," Israel's outgoing Prime Minister Yair Lapid's office said in a statement.

The exercises began on Tuesday with joint flights of four Israeli F-35i Adir stealth fighter jets that accompanied four U.S. F-15 fighter jets through Israel's skies, the Israeli military said in a statement.

The Israeli Air Force also simulated "an operational scenario and long-distance flights," the military added.

Israel's Intelligence Directorate conducted "an extensive simulation that replicated a campaign against distant countries," the statement read, adding the exercises tested Israel's abilities in gathering intelligence, researching targets and making intelligence available to the operational forces.

"These exercises are a key component of the two militaries' increasing strategic cooperation in response to shared concerns in the Middle East, particularly those posed by Iran," the military said.

Iran has yet to comment on the Israel-U.S. joint aerial exercises.

The exercises came amid heightened tensions between the United States and Iran.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 1 2022 5:56 utc | 84

Trudeau is a genuine WEF turd

“Everyone in China should be allowed to protest. We will continue to ensure that China knows we will stand for human rights and with people who are expressing themselves."

https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1597682051150675968

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1597762336164843521

Posted by: Tom_12 | Dec 1 2022 6:58 utc | 85

uncle tungsten | Dec 1 2022 5:19 utc | 79

It is possible that they are more confident now they have their stooge Mahatir as president of Malaysia.

I believe you mean Anwar Ibrahim. Mahathir is a complex guy. He even called out Soros, had the gall to host a war crimes trial that convicted the US. But in Malaysian politics, he unfortunately has overstayed his welcome. At 96 years old, he needs the rest and time with his great grand kids.

There is very little wriggle room and, going by USA destroyer idiocy in freight lanes, there is every chance of collision or even some punitive lessons from the dragon king.

China has spent years building up the Belt and Road. IMHO circumventing a blockade in the South China Sea is the biggest reason China embarked on the BRI. I have no idea if the BRI will be able to completely replace the SCS sea lanes, but it is definitely not as critical as it used to be.

China I think is avoiding a costly war unless absolutely necessary. It knows that time is on its side. I think it will take current and future small indignities if necessary, knowing that in 50 years, all of these would be seem of minute importance, and that they will be glad that they were patient.

Posted by: littlereddot | Dec 1 2022 7:51 utc | 86

littlereddot #86

Thank you for the correction, I did indeed mean Anwar Ibrahim.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 1 2022 7:55 utc | 87

wikipedia look a lot tacky in this report by iEarlgrey:

https://youtu.be/AG49KiSXFXY?t=692

It is a Ukraine related issue but I figured its focus is primarily the disgraceful censorship at wikipedia. Those slugs are entirely contemptible.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 1 2022 7:58 utc | 88

So this happened. ...

Quote Tweet
Mélanie Joly @melaniejoly · 13h
Canada government official
Grand corruption is a threat to democracy and security.

Today, the Netherlands, Ecuador, and Canada hosted a high-level roundtable on anti-corruption in The Hague.

Thank you for your leadership @WBHoekstra & @juancaholguin. We stand united in the fight again corruption.

'parently, Ukraine was either not mentioned or not invited!

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 1 2022 8:07 utc | 89

'bout Canada's stand for `human rights'. ...

Conversation
Adam van Koeverden @vankayak · 7h
Shame on the Russian Embassy in Canada for their homophobic, transphobic, hateful rhetoric.

This vitriol has no place, anywhere in the world.

And in Canada, we stand up against bullies and bigots.

Jake Gatawe @JGatawe
Replying to @vankayak
Actually Adam, this government uses Cdn taxpayer money to support bullies & bigots.

Mounting evidence Canada trained Ukrainian extremists, gov't needs to be held to account: experts https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/mounting-evidence-canada-trained-ukrainian-extremists-gov-t-needs-to-be-held-to-account-experts-1.5879303


May 20, 2012 Ukraine: First-ever Kyiv pride cancelled in face of ultra-right threat https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2012/05/ukraine-first-ever-kyiv-pride-cancelled-face-ultra-right-threat/

May 23, 2013 Court cancels Ukraine’s first-ever gay pride rally https://globalnews.ca/news/584777/court-cancels-ukraines-first-ever-gay-pride-rally/

July 4, 2014 Ukrainian Pride march cancelled in Kiev; Organizers say police won’t protect marchers in case of violence https://xtramagazine.com/power/ukrainian-pride-march-cancelled-in-kiev-62062

June 6, 2015 The Assault on Kiev Pride By Masha Gessen https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-assault-on-kiev-pride
...

September 19, 2021 Thousands March For LGBT Rights In Ukraine https://www.rferl.org/a/kyiv-pride-lgbt/31467920.html

About 7,000 people took part in the September 19 demonstration, according to organizers, down from the record high of 8,000 in 2019.

The gay pride parade, launched a decade ago, was canceled last year due to the coronavirus pandemic.

“We salute law enforcement for ensuring participants' safety,” the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv said in a tweet.

Homophobia is widespread in Ukraine, according to a survey by the sociological group "Rating" published in August, which said 47 percent of respondents had a negative view of the gay community.

Kyiv has increased support for LGBT rights since Western-backed leaders came to power in 2014.


June 2022: Ukraine was the 'queer capital of Eastern Europe.' Russia's war changed everything. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/06/21/ukraine-pride-parade-canceled-russia/7638611001/?gnt-cfr=1

Key points
• Gains for LGBTQ Ukrainians have been quickly eroded by Russia's ongoing attack on Ukraine. This year's official Pride parade in Kyiv was canceled and relocated to Poland.
• Being LGBTQ is legal in Ukraine, but same-sex marriage is not.
• Activists say Ukraine had seen major public gains in acceptance in the last few years and became a safe haven for LGBTQ people in less tolerant ex-Soviet and neighboring nations.

🤣` ...

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 1 2022 8:11 utc | 90

Caitlin Johnstone nails the Guardian's phony about face on Assange.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2022/11/30/the-guardian-could-help-assange-by-retracting-all-the-lies-it-published-about-him/

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 30 2022 16:10 utc | 2

I think we can be guaranteed that isn't going to happen.
A mealy mouthed (approved) acknowledgement of mistakes made at very most.
Then back to the narrative.

Posted by: jpc | Dec 1 2022 8:22 utc | 91

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 1 2022 5:19 utc | 79

------------------

Malacca St is a vital chokepoint for China's trade route .
From a gringo ...
'This is where we get the chicoms by their balls !'

FUKUSA has been trying to muscle in the St with fraudulent excuse like fighting pirates or wot .
Malaysia told the gringo 'go fly a kite' ! ;-)

They had been trying to take out Najib ever since.
After years of regime change attempts FUKUSA finally succeeded bringing down Najib IN 2018

The successor of Mahathir/anwar coalition was an uneasy partnership, cuz Mahathir was wary of Anwar's NED/AEI mentorship

Surprisingly,
Najib's remark on China is quite positive and conciliatory.

Is this all smoke and mirror deception?
Or,
Has Anwar outgrown his NED connection ?
Only time will tell !

https://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysia-puts-us-in-its-place-over-offer-to-police-busy-sea-lane-20040406-gdioic.html

Posted by: denk | Dec 1 2022 8:25 utc | 92

Laurence @ 89

With the meeting chaired by Canada, Ecuador and the Netherlands, it’s more likely the selectively-chosen corruption was about drug running than Ukraine (although maybe that’s saying the same thing - a hub of corruption like Ukraine must be prominent in the drug trade?) A European super-cartel for cocaine distribution was just taken down by Europol.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63781424

I worry most about what Canada is up to in Romania.
https://twitter.com/NikosDendias/status/1597616190217629696

I think the concern over reports of Canada’s proposed activities to contain or whatever China are not worrisome, no country on the planet requires a superpower not on its borders more than Canada. I don’t think Canada would ever authentically try to dismantle China as a superpower, only a China-US based one (which would be on its borders, at Russia’s direction, geography reigning supreme over ideology in this assumption of mine.)

https://www.nytimes.com/1973/10/07/archives/trudeau-to-go-to-china-to-better-special-ties-expected-to-see-mao.html

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Dec 1 2022 8:49 utc | 93

Did Bankman-Fried appear in NYC yesterday?

Posted by: Goingo | Dec 1 2022 9:34 utc | 94

Iran-China-Russia new triangular in multilateral diplomacy: Russian envoy

A senior Russian diplomat says his "productive" talks with his Iranian and Chinese counterparts on issues of common interest are indicative of the emergence of a new triangular in multilateral diplomacy.

...

Under that strategy, Iran has tried to adopt an East-oriented economic policy, expanding its ties with neighboring and other Asian countries and striving to become self-sufficient in key domains.

Iran and China signed a landmark 25-year comprehensive strategic partnership agreement in March last year in defiance of the US’s unilateral sanctions.

The deal officially documents the Sino-Iranian Comprehensive Strategic Partnership that had been announced during a visit by Chinese President Xi Jinping to Tehran in 2016. It sets the outlines of the two countries’ cooperation in political, cultural, security, defense, regional, and international domains for the next 25 years.

...

Iran and Russia are also eyeing a twenty-year strategic partnership treaty that would lay out the roadmap for future expansion of ties at all levels, from politics to economy and security.

Things that make you go, hmmm ...

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 1 2022 9:51 utc | 95

Just in from hashtag cdnpoli latest. ...

Charlie Harris @Charlie85915085 · 10m
Replying to @CoachCdA @ThorneClint and 2 others
Harper.
Fascist bastard. Ousted in 2015.
Helping fascists to power GLOBALLY via IDU.
See Orbán, Hungary. The just ousted Bolsonaro, Brazil.
Brexit destroying the UK.

Installing Fascism in Canada via Conservative Premiers.

Harper.
Fascist bastard.

But never mind that Nazi Yatsenyuk or Il Douche's Nazi domina & Harper's goto gal on Ukraine. LiberalSelectavision™ 🍁🙈🍁

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 1 2022 10:02 utc | 96

01.12.2022
Lavrov: Russia and the West will not restore former relations

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that there will be no former relations between Russia and the West. In his opinion, it will not be possible to restore cooperation on security issues in Europe in the foreseeable future. He added that the discussion of this problem is possible only on "fundamentally new principles."

“It is only clear that if and when, at some point in time, our Western neighbors, and there is no escape from the neighborhood, our Western neighbors and former partners suddenly become interested in somehow restoring joint work on European security, then restoring will not work. Because restoration means what was before. But there will be no business as usual,” Sergei Lavrov said at a press conference.

Mr. Lavrov is holding a press conference against the backdrop of the start of the Council of Foreign Ministers of the OSCE participating States in Lodz, Poland.

kommersant

Posted by: SeanAU | Dec 1 2022 10:09 utc | 97

"Did Bankman-Fried appear in NYC yesterday?"

@ Posted by: Goingo | Dec 1 2022 9:34 utc | 94


Full interview with Sorkin begin around the 15 minute mark, the Youtube video is taken from ZH article, but ZH links do not work on MoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ik497cvvcE

SBF is a lying, self entitled weasel scumbag. A sociopath, more concerned about appearing stupid and more concerned about the almost certain prospect of a lengthy jail sentence, rather than showing any actual contrition or empathy for the lives he destroyed, which of course, is exactly why he did what did in the first place.

Posted by: Et Tu | Dec 1 2022 10:17 utc | 98

Thanks for the link.
Seems like he chickened out and did not attend in person.
You´re right - he is a self-centered, greedy scumbag.

Posted by: Goingo | Dec 1 2022 10:40 utc | 99

SBF is an abused adult child.

https://law.stanford.edu/directory/barbara-fried/

https://law.stanford.edu/directory/joseph-bankman/

Posted by: too scents | Dec 1 2022 10:49 utc | 100

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