Bear in mind, this is "not even the main thing" according to the Russian govt.

The main thing is a security treaty, or rather, series of treaties, with European states.

First, these states must realise mutual security is the only road to economic stability.

Therefore they must experience instabily, cold, and hunger.

The US can wait their turn.

Posted by: Powerandpeople | Oct 11 2022 9:50 utc | 1

The Kerch Bridge sabotage failure explained ... ANFO is a much better explosive than celluloid, and when you have a 40t truck at your disposal use it.

https://youtu.be/-T8bQeMjSAc?t=7

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2022 10:05 utc | 2

They are lying.

Some of them are aware that they lie.

Most of them are not aware that they lie.

Scary! Scary! Scary!

Many think that it doesn't matter that they lie.

Terrifying!!

Posted by: Otter | Oct 11 2022 10:11 utc | 3

They did say attacks on Russia would be a harsh response. I wonder how long it takes the Ukrainian group to figure out where Russia says it's boarders are

Posted by: OhhCanada | Oct 11 2022 10:13 utc | 4

I just finished watching a John mersheimer lecture. He says quite convincingly that all of the problems started with the neocons under Bush. Then he says that zero and Trump and Biden have doubled down on Bush's policies.

I'm not so sure I blame Trump. Government apparatchiks were in open rebellion against him. But I am sure of one thing, Bush will go down as one of our worst Presidents. And I voted for him both times.

Posted by: TempoNick | Oct 11 2022 10:18 utc | 5

The big problem the Ukronazis have going against them is that the people who live in Russia's newest territories overwhelmingly don't want to live under the Ukrainian government. It's hard to take back territory that has a hostile population.

Posted by: TempoNick | Oct 11 2022 10:21 utc | 6

Thanks, b. Just before this was posted, I made a comment on the other thread that perhaps should have been placed here. Oops!

Victor Orban joined Twitter yesterday - https://twitter.com/pm_viktororban - right before his visit with Germany’s Scholz.

“Had a meeting today with the representatives of German companies active in Hungary. I assured them that they can count on our support. We may have disagreements from time to time, but not as many as they have with their own government back home.”

G7 video call today includes Zelensky. Everyone should be relieved to hear that Uk’s Liz Truss is not planning to say anything more extreme than (pre-Armageddon) usual, according to gov.uk

“Today’s video call, which will also be attended by President Zelenskyy, is the first gathering of all G7 leaders since Ukraine’s counter-offensive started to take hold in Ukraine.

The Prime Minister will use the call to urge fellow leaders to stay the course. She will point out that Ukraine’s military advances have been made possible thanks to the international support they are receiving – not just in terms of military aid, but also humanitarian assistance and the impact of western sanctions.

The Prime Minister is also calling for an urgent meeting of NATO leaders, ensuring allies remain united and resolute in their opposition to Putin’s behaviour.”
…
“Addressing fellow G7 Minister leaders, the Prime Minister is expected to say:

The overwhelming international support for Ukraine’s struggle stands in stark opposition to the isolation of Russia on the international stage.

Their bravery in the face of the most brutal acts of violence has earned the people of Ukraine global admiration.

Nobody wants peace more than Ukraine. And for our part, we must not waver one iota in our resolve to help them win it.”

She also spoke with Zelensky yesterday. (But I wonder if perhaps the King has more influence on her, if that’s where the less extreme, more bureaucratic, rhetoric is stemming from.)

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 11 2022 10:21 utc | 7

all of the problems started with the neocons under Bush.
Posted by: TempoNick | Oct 11 2022 10:18 utc | 5

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Clinton expanded NATO.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2022 10:22 utc | 8

Those b*stards at Whitehall are going to get us all killed.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2022 10:25 utc | 9

Again I ask analyze how Ukraine still flying it's fighters.
Btw u kept saying the counter offensive will be cut down on it's track u have been proven wrong on that count.
The usage of s300 missiles for ground strikes do indicate they r having difficulties with ammo but then again they r fighting for 7 month and fighting against the arsenal of entire nato and s300 missiles r of old stock so that one can be reasonably argued to be a clever adaptation.

Posted by: A.z | Oct 11 2022 10:33 utc | 10

@3;

Cluster-B mentalities are rewarded and incentivised in the West.

The small European peninsula, composed of linguistically mutually incomprehensible tribes, fighting like cats in a bag over limited resources, encouraged the development of a zero-sum mentality.

Recently, the Western internet has been "weaponised" to turn potentially troublesome subjects into narcissistic, dopamine-addicted individuals chasing status and attention. (Histrionic Personality type)

"Spare the rod, spoil the child". This folk wisdom is accurate. Spoiled, coddled children become tyrannic, entitled, and narcissistic adults.

Psychologists advise dealing with Cluster B individuals like so:

First, go "no contact" if possible. Entirely remove yourself from their presence and influence.

If this is not possible, then use the "Grey Rock" technique. Deal with them only on a strict contractual basis, do not give them the "fuel" (drama) they desire by responding emotionally to their provocations. However, do not be a soft touch either. Strictly but calmly enforce boundaries.

You cannot appeal to their sense of justice, fairness, compassion, honesty, empathy, rationality, etc. because they do not have the cognitive hardware to develop such abilities.

They are extremely childish and primitive mentally.

Fundamentally, they are not capable of self-reflection but resent those who are.

They are good at simulating adult behaviour in order to manipulate others.

Fascism can be seen as full Cluster-B control of state power to the extent that they can act with impunity.

They have an animalistic instinct for allying with others like them.

They see most people as stupid and weak and deserving of their wrath. They mistake kindness for weakness.

The greatest challenge to the "Mandate of Heaven" is to keep these creatures from gaining power, and to disincentivise these traits in the population.

The most important task for rational individuals in the Pentagon is keep these creatures away from big red buttons.

Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 11 2022 10:33 utc | 11

@ Powerandpeople | Oct 11 2022 9:50 utc | 1
"First, these states must realise mutual security is the only road to economic stability."

European oligarchs are not very much interested in economic stability.

american oligarchs have no interest at all in European economic stability ... Indeed, instability, cold, and hunger (elsewhere) are profitable.

Posted by: Otter | Oct 11 2022 10:34 utc | 12

Our source reports that the air defense in Ukraine is overloaded.
Too many and at the same time flies.
The source also points to a real shortage of air defense missiles in nearby warehouses. If earlier there was one package for a day or three, and the shelling was on schedule, now the shelling is constant, and when it starts, you have to drive trucks for "reserve" constantly, straining logistics. Even the people themselves will get tired of this pace in a week.

Another problem is the quality of the missiles. Many of them were stored in inappropriate conditions.

In reality, air defense easily shoots down kamikaze drones, they are sometimes difficult to detect, but the price of a missile and a UAV is not commensurate.

X-series missiles, if they are upgraded, then it is almost impossible to catch them. Old modifications are still possible.

Calibers are also hard to calculate and shoot down. Sometimes, in order to shoot down one caliber, you need to spend the entire air defense package, and this is from 4 missiles.

To be honest, drones are shot down 40% successfully, old-style missiles in 25%, but the newest ones, there are only 7-9% of success. It is unrealistic to shoot down a Kinzhal, and when they arrive, the air defense and radar stations never saw them on the sensors and screens.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 11 2022 10:41 utc | 13

The NYT sure is a funny bunch of despicable morons; if "hard-liners" got their way the NYT would have ceased to exist.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 11 2022 10:45 utc | 14

@A.z

Thats what s-300 are made for. Russia has been yelling about Nato pointing air defense systems at people for this exact reason.
They produced over 3000 s-300 systems, i would imagine they have tens of thousands of missles to use up.

Posted by: OohCanada | Oct 11 2022 10:46 utc | 15

Another sharp piece, b, piercing through the thick dark fog of unending deception. Thank you.

Re: In the event of more attempts to stage terrorist attacks on our territory, Russia's response will be harsh and commensurate with the threats posed to the Russian Federation. Nobody should have any doubts about that.

Let us hope that gradually such doubts evaporate, like mist over a lake in the morning sun.

Many have criticized RF's SMO approach to date as being too timid, too unclear, too slow, ultimately more costly in blood and treasure, and perhaps more likely to cause nuclear catastrophe. Possibly so.

But also possibly an historically unprecedented way of waging war by emphasizing the moral and cultural dimensions over the kinetic and tactical. Putins strategy may end up providing the entire world with a profound, albeit somewhat harsh, teaching moment exposing centuries of deceptions and delusions whilst providing a contemporary up to date example of how to develop and manage a good polity able to advance the well-being of her peoples whist handling existential threats of a truly historic nature.

Such lessons need time to unfold. They have been painstakingly prepared for decades now and to blunder forward with hasty shock and awe would ruin the whole thing. Even though yesterday's response by the RF was shocking it was also astonishingly precise demonstrating a level of command and control that we in the West have come to despair of ever witnessing in any of our governments or leaders.

One lesson after another...

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 11 2022 10:47 utc | 16

Winter is coming. And, all energy infrastructure of Ukraine is being taken out one by one. Is unconditional capitulation on the dock?

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 11 2022 10:51 utc | 17

It's good to know that Elon Musk is siding with the Neo Nazis. Says a lot about a person.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 11 2022 10:54 utc | 18

Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 11 2022 10:33 utc | 11

Crackerjack post! Thxs.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 11 2022 10:54 utc | 19

Short clipping from recent Sputniknews report:

"Tuesday's strikes were the second straight day of attacks targeting Ukrainian electricity infrastructure and command and communications systems used by the Ukrainian military."

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 11 2022 11:01 utc | 20

The West wins the propaganda war hands down. Videos that consistently attack Russia have 100s of thousands or even a few million of views while those that attempt to be more balanced in their reporting are usually have 5 to 10 times less views.

Being a Ukraine cheerleader this year has boosted the ratings and support of those who got in line with the Western trend of loving and supporting Ukraine.

Even though propaganda does not win wars, it does generate support which can be beneficial in the overall war effort.

I listen to the more balanced reporting from Brian Berletic, Alex Christoforu, and Alexander Mercouris. Not so many may listen to their excellent commentaries. Yet, they are much closer to the truth.

In the end, truth will triumph over all the wars of man. Until then, the propaganda machines continue to spew their lies, and half truths, and hypocrisy.

Posted by: young | Oct 11 2022 11:16 utc | 21

Of the civilians killed and injured, I would guess a fair few are non-military members of the security services and their office staff.

Posted by: Pancho Plail | Oct 11 2022 11:20 utc | 22

The West wins the propaganda war hands down.
Posted by: young | Oct 11 2022 11:16 utc | 21

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The eager and uncritical consumption of Western propaganda tells you how much further this war has to go.

The situation will not change without cultural humiliation. We are a long long ways away from that.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2022 11:20 utc | 23

I doubt that West will give up just like that.

The amount of insults and pathetic reporting on 'aiming missiles on children's playgrounds' is amazing, and it just indicates further on the 'double-down' in cash, weapons and 'stay the course' idiocy of the West.

It basically becomes a Gordian knot, and they have been warned about that.

Is the last 48 hours an attempt to cut this avalanche of stupidity?
As everyone sane can see, the overall situation is becoming worse day in day out for the EU primarily.

I might be wrong, but to me, it all seems that Russia wants to end this as soon as it goes. Wrecking Ukraine to the point where it makes no sense for the West to support it any more.

Slowly, the West admits that Russia can do this dismantling for a considerable time and every day, but it doesn't out it loudly as yet. One can read it between the lines and every day a bit more, creeping into the narrative.

So, slowly admitting here and there that Russia has indeed 'deep storages' of missiles and rockets, means and a will to use those until it achieves its goals. To me, it just indicates that its own propaganda is not 'holding the water' really well.

Also, I think that Russia waited since July's Lysichansk offensive to see if there is anyone's sane policy emerging stopping all this 'help' to Ukraine and when the West will stop doing stupid moves.

Now they are convinced that nobody is stepping up to halt this madness.

Now Russia is 'doubling-down' in its own way and as it seems continues
until there are, this time, very serious and convincing cries for urgent peace talks from the West.
Ukraine is out of this equation anyway.

Posted by: whirlX | Oct 11 2022 11:23 utc | 24

Don't trust those numbers Young, they're so easily manipulated that they're meaningless.

Same applies to the notion that people support "Ukraine"; it's as shallow as can be in a deliberately created environment where "everybody" allegedly is against Russia but where ordinary people (like me) simply avoid meaningless antagonism because debating "with"/against zombies (or NPCs if one prefers) isn't rational, productive, or meaningful.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 11 2022 11:27 utc | 25

I hope Russia stops playing the game of "wait and see". The current level of punching should not relent but intensified until the NATO is forced to beg for a cease-fire. The past 7 months have made it clear that the collective West is hopeless and unreasonable. Hard knock is the only language it uderstands. Knock it hard, I say.

Posted by: Steve | Oct 11 2022 11:28 utc | 26

"It’s very telling that they have not had this rate of long range fires since the start of the war."

I have to comment on this, because everyone is saying this is some sort of record. 200-250 was the average per day up to a point a few months ago when they shifted to 1,000-1,200 missiles per day for a short while, then dropped back to the usual couple hundred.

This is by no means a record. Read the MoD daily reports going back months.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 11 2022 11:29 utc | 27

[Note: The filter is dropping posts with my usual posting name again, so I'm forced to use the alternate.]

"It’s very telling that they have not had this rate of long range fires since the start of the war."

I have to comment on this, because everyone is saying this is some sort of record. 200-250 was the average per day up to a point a few months ago when they shifted to 1,000-1,200 missiles per day for a short while, then dropped back to the usual couple hundred.

This is by no means a record. Read the MoD daily reports going back months.

RSH

Posted by: CharlesLutherThanos | Oct 11 2022 11:32 utc | 28

The fools. Do you make peace with your neighbour next door by burning their house down?
I cringe with shame that the place I love has such a rabble in charge. England is finished.

Posted by: Benn | Oct 11 2022 11:34 utc | 29

@21 video likes.

Totally manipulated propaganda, easily done by the usual suspects. Those likes are pure fiction.

Don’t believe it, don’t be taken in.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 11 2022 11:36 utc | 30

I’m curious whether or not Ukrainian air defense shot down any missiles. Russia said every target was hit and after watching tons of videos I’ve only seen air defenses failing and missing. It’s interesting that most of the videos shown on the MSM seem to be misfired or malfunctioned s300s or otherwise such as the children’s school and several roadways and intersections. From the size of the craters and destruction the accusation that these are ICBMs fires by Russia seem unbelievable and there’s even some comments pointing this out on YouTube videos such as CNN, MSNBC..etc.

Posted by: James C | Oct 11 2022 11:41 utc | 31

Lavrov interviewed by 60 Minutes, no transcript yet, just watched the beginning where Lavrov talks about the west turned into a Hollywood set full of bad actors, the EU plays I don't see I don't hear and Zelensky depending on his behaviour -polite way of saying did he have a sniff for breakfast or just after lunch- plays the role of I don't want to talk but we'll see, a bunch of "noble knights".

https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1833291/

Posted by: Paco | Oct 11 2022 11:42 utc | 32

Perhaps A night of the long knives approaches as much as any heavenly retribution.

It’s only when the capos who pull the strings from behind curtains get direct ‘blow back’ , then will the never ending pain of centuries end for the majority and all poorest of humanity.

I seriously believe it is those very few who are the perpetrators of ALL our troubles through the ages.

The majority - of the non western controlled, none 5 + 1 eyed monster, non Ancient Imperialist of Europe, non compradors, non elite, non new money oligarch and bought henchmen - know this but have never stood together against the tyrants and their terrors. Even as they come dressed as woke women- the mass murdering Allbright and cackling harridan Clinton or Iron Lady Thatcher. Blood on their hands never to be washed off.

These innocents being murdered and deposited into mass graves. The psychopaths who revel in such atrocity. The cowards who would never face an equally armed enemy but would destroy civilians!

We can carry on being suckered into their never ending proxy wars between ourselves or we just slap them down once and for all. It doesn’t even have to be public. No one needs to know about it. They just disappear in a puff of smoke from hell. Fuck inz hell!

There is no heavenly justice - god is owned by the oppressors- the only justice is our own humanity for our fellow humans and the environment and fellow creatures.

For that and just that, I petition that justice be visited upon these bastards, by these who can. Let them disappear and be entombed in the great bunkers they have built like ancient pharaohs they pretend they are.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 11 2022 11:44 utc | 33

[Reposting a few items that fit the topics of this post.]

Zelenskiy has announced that 12 people have been killed during yesterday’s Russian strikes. The NYT says 14 people have been killed. It is unknown how many were civilians vs. military.

Meanwhile, in the bombing of the Crimean Bridge, 6 people have been killed, all of them civilians: the truck driver, Makhir Yusubov, a father of three, who was knowingly, deliberately sacrificed by the plotters, 4 people in a Cadillac (a family of historians from St. Petersburg, their friend and another friend) and 1 person in a Mitsubishi.

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Kremenchug, yesterday: Ukrainian S-300 missile missed its target and fell back on the ground: photo. This explains some of yesterday’s “random” hits.

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Gazprom recalls how it discovered a NATO mine disposal system at the Nord Stream (EurAsia Daily, October 10, 2022 — in Russian) [The website is currently down. You will have to wait until it is brought back to verify correctness of my translation. However, the same information has been reported yesterday by other Russian media.]

In 2015, Gazprom discovered NATO’s underwater mine disposal system near one of the Nord Stream pipelines. It was destroyed then by the Swedish Navy. This has been explained to Rossiya 24 TV channel by Gazprom’s official representative Sergey Kupriyanov.

“Today it is necessary to recall the events on the Nord Stream gas pipeline that have already been recorded earlier. This case is well known. On November 6, 2015, during a scheduled visual inspection of the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline, NATO’s SeaFox underwater mine disposal system was discovered. It lay exactly in the space between the gas pipelines near one of them,” Sergey Kupriyanov said.

It was the 651st kilometer of the gas pipeline, the depth in that place is 40 meters, he explained.

“Then the explosive device was removed and neutralized by the Swedish Armed Forces. NATO said the underwater mine disposal system was lost during an exercise. The kind of exercise when a combat explosive device ends up right under our gas pipeline,” the representative of Gazprom concluded.

Russian Telegram channel Zvezdanews has published two close-up photos of that mine disposal system sitting right next to the Nord Stream pipeline: photos.

Posted by: S | Oct 11 2022 11:46 utc | 34

One third of total of 3000 Estonian reservists failed to show up at exercises.

https://twitter.com/EnricoFaraboll1/status/1579800381357715456
https://t.me/sputnik/15123

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 11 2022 11:52 utc | 35

Classic NYT. Runs stories every day for six months claiming that Putin is a hard-liner, a savage, despicable monster. Then, when the Russians start taking out infrastructure, runs a story saying that NOW Putin has started listening to 'Kremlin hard-liners.' I thought he was a hard-liner all along? Oh, so now Putin was moderate and reasonable? Get your story straight.

Posted by: Bosko | Oct 11 2022 12:00 utc | 36

@ Steve | Oct 11 2022 11:28 utc | 26

Have you heard of the saying "don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake"?

Russia's interests might be better served by going slow and letting the enraged Natzos muster the courage to impoverish themselves and their nations further in pursuit of their white whale Russia.

Come to think of it, angry Captain Biden seems like a man irrationally obsessed.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Russia give the Natzos time to rush orders to manufacture, deliver, and install transformers and other replacement equipment, before blowing it up again.

At this point, the Natzos can't help themselves and can't turn on a dime. It took their ossified political class DECADES to make the decision to retreat from Afghanistan. They won't admit defeat in Ukraine until they piss away more treasure. Russia might encourage them to tire themselves out.

Posted by: dfg | Oct 11 2022 12:00 utc | 37

Rules Of Engagement ...they change

Posted by: mexsudo | Oct 11 2022 12:04 utc | 38

@James C | Oct 11 2022 11:41 utc | 30

I’m curious whether or not Ukrainian air defense shot down any missiles. Russia said every target was hit and after watching tons of videos I’ve only seen air defenses failing and missing. It’s interesting that most of the videos shown on the MSM seem to be misfired or malfunctioned s300s or otherwise such as the children’s school and several roadways and intersections. From the size of the craters and destruction the accusation that these are ICBMs fires by Russia seem unbelievable and there’s even some comments pointing this out on YouTube videos such as CNN, MSNBC..etc.

It's so blindingly obvious that these strikes were from failing Ukraininan air defense missiles that the NATO troll army is now trying to peddle the line "Ruzzia shooting their old stock S300 missiles at children's playgrounds" (see attempt by troll "A.z" and his sidekick "OohCanada" a few posts above)

Posted by: Lurk | Oct 11 2022 12:05 utc | 39

@Bosko | Oct 11 2022 12:00 utc | 35

Get your story straight.

Their entire purpose is to get our story twisted.

Posted by: Lurk | Oct 11 2022 12:09 utc | 40

It really wouldn't surprise me if the Empire of Sleaze finds a way to withdraw support and condemn Ukraine based on "new found information" (that there are no good cards to play) and stabs everybody in the back while claiming to take the high road.

"We wanted everyone to adhere to Minsk II but no one listened".

Posted by: chunga | Oct 11 2022 12:14 utc | 41

@dfg | Oct 11 2022 12:00 utc | 36

Clearly, Russia has been preparing for this altercation for at least a decade. Time is on their side.

Still, it will take a lot of time before most westerners will realize how thoroughly they have let themselves be hypnotized and enslaved by the man behind the curtain. Some have collaborated more than others, but almost everyone has profited from and been corrupted by this system. Waking up from a comfortable dream and finding yourself chained, gagged and tainted is hurtful. The immediate reflex is to want to fall back asleep again. Only when you also feel very cold and hungry does that reflex stop.

Posted by: Lurk | Oct 11 2022 12:27 utc | 42

moaobserver | Oct 11 2022 10:33 utc | 11

Crackerjack post! Thxs.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 11 2022 10:54 utc | 19

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I second that, great post at #11

Posted by: htyul | Oct 11 2022 12:29 utc | 43

This is by no means a record. Read the MoD daily reports going back months. RSH
Posted by: CharlesLutherThanos | Oct 11 2022 11:32 utc | 27

Yes, but since late Feb/early March nearly all the 1000+ a day were directed at the fronts in Lugansk and Donetsk not all over the country. Every once in a while there was a hit at a concentration of forces or some such but this is the first swathe of attacks country-wide since those early days. (Not that it matters all that much: it is what it is.)

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 11 2022 12:37 utc | 44

Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 11 2022 10:33 utc | 11

Classic post by someone who who knows nothing at all about Europe, is completely ignorant about it, and who views it from the other side of the planet. Very common among MoA commenters.

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 11 2022 12:37 utc | 45

RE : war propaganda and who REALLY kill civilians...

https://russiepolitics.blogspot.com/2022/10/le-visage-de-la-barbarie-kharkov.html

In February Putin probably wanted to apply a filling to the rotten tooth that is Ukraine-Nato.
Now he certainly thinks he'll have to remove that tooth.

Posted by: Nanker | Oct 11 2022 12:42 utc | 46

Chunga #40
"It really wouldn't surprise me if the Empire of Sleaze finds a way to withdraw support and condemn Ukraine based on "new found information" (that there are no good cards to play) and stabs everybody in the back while claiming to take the high road."

Not very likely, at least not van-der-crazy is given prime time

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eD55nuXD6u0

Posted by: krypton | Oct 11 2022 12:43 utc | 47

Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 11 2022 10:33 utc | 11

Classic post by someone who who knows nothing at all about Europe, is completely ignorant about it, and who views it from the other side of the planet. Very common among MoA commenters.
Posted by: laguerre | Oct 11 2022 12:37 utc | 44

Yeah, but his prose sizzled!
Whereas yours above, with respect, somewhat fizzled!

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 11 2022 12:43 utc | 48

A.z (10), You ask how Ukraine can continue to fly planes. It's obvious that they are being resupplied from elsewhere and probably taking off from outside Ukraine. Before the conflict, Ukraine was estimated to have a little over 200 fixed-wing aircraft and 156 helicopters: https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.php?country_id=ukraine. According to Russian MOD figures (10/8/22), 316 Ukrainian planes had been downed (few recently because few have flown) and 158 helicopters. These are more than the original amount of aircraft in the Ukrainian air force. Most of the air defenses of Ukraine are gone, as testified to the overwhelming success (verified conclusively) of the Russian missile strikes of August and currently. Also 5494 tanks and APV's have allegedly been destroyed out of an original total of almost 15,000. Outside of tanks--highly vulnerable to artillery, air strikes, and anti-tank missiles, Ukraine has little left of its military. But that doesn't mean it cannot engage in lots of suidical missions for awhile.

Posted by: FHTEX | Oct 11 2022 12:54 utc | 49

Posted by: Pancho Plail | Oct 11 2022 11:20 utc | 22

“Of the civilians killed and injured, I would guess a fair few are non-military members of the security services and their office staff.”

No doubt. I read elsewhere that Russia waited until the security services buildings were empty before they hit them, but everybody knows that the lights are on 24/7 in those places.

Posted by: Thirdtwin | Oct 11 2022 12:56 utc | 50

I’m curious whether or not Ukrainian air defense shot down any missiles. Russia said every target was hit and after watching tons of videos I’ve only seen air defenses failing and missing. It’s interesting that most of the videos shown on the MSM seem to be misfired or malfunctioned s300s or otherwise such as the children’s school and several roadways and intersections. From the size of the craters and destruction the accusation that these are ICBMs fires by Russia seem unbelievable and there’s even some comments pointing this out on YouTube videos such as CNN, MSNBC..etc.

Posted by: James C | Oct 11 2022 11:41 utc | 30

I just assume because of the fog of war the truth is somewhere in the middle.

The Ukes might have picked off a few missiles, and the Russians probably hit not all, but most of their targets. No way imho can the Ukes hold up under a sustained barrage as this.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Oct 11 2022 12:58 utc | 51

Not to worry, hunger and cold makes people think.

Posted by: Viktor K | Oct 11 2022 13:04 utc | 52

Mearsheimer gets it partially right. This started in full with Clinton, but the original neocons go even further back and were deeply involved in Reagan's ramping up of the Cold War in the 80's. But of course, that was the USSR so maybe it doesn't count. We can settle on Clinton, who gifted with an open board of geopolitics and all the international good will a president could hope for, squandered it for the empire of finance capitalism. From the pillage and political manipulation in Russia, to NAFTA, to selling manufacturing capacity to China Clinton set the stage for today.

As just one example, Victoria Nuland's first job was under Strobe Talbot (Clinton's SoS), she then went on to work closely for Cheney, the a NATO assignment, then a high level DoS post in Europe under Obama and finally her current position under Biden. The only time she has not been in government employment was under Trump. But she's also not a career State Department employee under the normal track of Foreign Service Officer and then higher positions. She's always been a political appointee or aide/secretary to a political appointee. She nicely encapsulates what the early 2000's bloggers called "the Blob" and now gets called "the Deep State". US foreign policy has always been deeply affected by unelected people, but starting in the 90's it really became an ecosystem of its own, straddling partisan politics almost completely.

The goal, as it is almost always presented carefully by outlets like the NYT, is the empire of finance capitalism wearing pancake makeup of philosophical liberalism.

Posted by: Lex | Oct 11 2022 13:06 utc | 53

@krypton #46 - So what does the Blinken admin do now? More sanctions? More weapons? None of that seems to be working very well. More sabotage? Already the story about the pipelines has changed from "did Russia do it" to "how did the Americans *not* do it".

Posted by: chunga | Oct 11 2022 13:08 utc | 54

@41 Lurk

Clearly, Russia has been preparing for this altercation for at least a decade. Time is on their side.

If this is so, then Russia has been acting in extreme bad faith for the last decade. This begs the question as to why any nation in Europe would trust Russia on anything going forward.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 11 2022 13:15 utc | 55

‼️JUST IN‼️

‼️🇺🇸🇷🇺🇺🇦Russia's victory in the conflict in Ukraine will be a defeat for NATO, this cannot be allowed, Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg said‼️

NATO is closely monitoring incidents that pose potential hybrid threats to allies and is ready to take action if necessary, the Secretary General said.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2022 13:23 utc | 56

Talking of propaganda I see there are comforting words coming from Pavel Gubarev, Russia's DPR man in Donetsk, who says about Ukrainians:

"We aren't coming to kill you, but to convince you. But if you don't want to be convinced, we'll kill you. We'll kill as many as we have to: 1 million, 5 million, or exterminate all of you."

Well, that will convince many Ukrainians about Russia’s intentions as missiles strike their cities.

I wonder if he thinks the same about Poles, the Baltic states or other CEE countries? This will do wonders for Russia’s relationships with bordering States :)

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 11 2022 13:27 utc | 57

@ Lurk | Oct 11 2022 12:05 utc | 38

It's so blindingly obvious that these strikes were from failing Ukraininan air defense missiles that the NATO troll army is now trying to peddle the line "Ruzzia shooting their old stock S300 missiles at children's playgrounds" (see attempt by troll "A.z" and his sidekick "OohCanada" a few posts above)

I've noted that too, but wasn't really sure what they were on about. You clarified it for me -thanks. I will make good use of it in the "cyber-war".
This is a good place to clear ones head, even if it supposed to be a bar.

Posted by: Anne B | Oct 11 2022 13:28 utc | 58

@Down South | Oct 11 2022 13:23 utc | 55

This war isn't over until the West is comprehensively humiliated, and that is going to break a lot of precious hearts.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2022 13:28 utc | 59

Just a general comment on the frequently cited belief that people living in the collective West need cold and hunger to really give up their attachment to luxury.

Previously, the frequently cited belief was that people living in the collective West were so burdened with the outcomes of neoliberal reforms (rightsizing, gig economy, outsourcing, privatization, GWOT, war on drugs, opioids, mass migration) that they were unable to really devote time and energy to political action.

So which is it?

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 11 2022 13:30 utc | 60

@ 57 Anne B

If there are casualties from Ukrainian air defences (possible), then the cause is Russian strikes on cities. After all, without the latter, there wouldn’t be the former.

Unless you think Russian missile strikes should be allowed to hit targets unimpeded?

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 11 2022 13:31 utc | 61

So which is it?
@Bruised Northerner | Oct 11 2022 13:30 utc | 59

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Who in the West picks their own fruit?

The vast majority of Westerners are completely detached from the harvest of their foodstuffs with the exception that they know which side their bread is buttered on.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2022 13:36 utc | 62

Would anyone in their right mind ever trust a piece of shit calling itself a Brit, fucking Latchicos. Squatters due for an eviction. Must tour the reserves here looking for Hudson Bay coats to send back to the Missions. They can hand them out, might ask the locals here to piss on them first to send some bios back to Downton.

Not much for numerology, but a great day for the lights to go out across Britain would be Nov 5th.......or sooner. Not fair that Ukrainians freeze on behalf of a bunch of inbred bastards that couldn't fund a school of dentistry.....yet teaches others how to Excell at killing civilians using terror tactics. Brits monopolize at killing civilians.

Brit army sneak around like the little vermin they are, couldn't even defeat the Germans had to ask Yanks and Russia for help. FFS even the IRA, a bunch of college students trained by The SAS, made them sue for peace.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 11 2022 13:37 utc | 63

@ 61, ok… I’m sorry but I see no meaning in that and I think it’s an attempt to change the subject. Respectfully I’m withdrawing from the bar for the day. Best wishes to b and the barflies.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 11 2022 13:39 utc | 64

chunga,

The plan at this point I think is the EU led by the US terrorist state will continue to supply whatever weapons and military support they can muster to the Ukro regime, and in addition attempt to weaken Russia economically in every possible way including continued terrorist acts against Russian infrastructure. It’s all they got at this point.

Posted by: krypton | Oct 11 2022 13:41 utc | 65

chunga,

The plan at this point I think is the EU led by the US terrorist state will continue to supply whatever weapons and military support they can muster to the Ukro regime, and in addition attempt to weaken Russia economically in every possible way including continued terrorist acts against Russian infrastructure. It’s all they got at this point.

Posted by: krypton | Oct 11 2022 13:41 utc | 66

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dont-buy-the-narrative-on-ukraine/

Did propagandists use a photo of Burning Man claiming it was Russians running away? A good read.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 11 2022 13:43 utc | 67

Unless you think Russian missile strikes should be allowed to hit targets unimpeded?

Tom UK @ 60

Sure, they should also hit London!

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 11 2022 13:44 utc | 68

George Bush Snr referred to the neo-cons as the crazies in the basement

Leo Strauss and the "Crazies in the Basement"

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2022 13:47 utc | 69

Finally, what should have been done in february (or sooner) seems to have started. Again it was mostly not.the faukt of the Rus mil but of the political elite in Moscow and a whole class behind it.

If sustained and repeated, strikes on the energy and railway infrastructure will debilitate the nazi/Nato failed state of Ukraine, will demoralize its brainwashed civilian support base and finally its military and its gestapo.

Will those essential attacks be sustained or will it be just enough to shield Moscow's elite from patriotic anger? Only time will tell. But those heart-warming strikes are not enough, the Ukro-Euro Nazis can repair quickly without repeated debilitating strikes after each repairs. Ukrops and euros want so badly a trip to the middle-ages, the russian military should oblige them!
https://t.me/rybar/40050

According to this analysis, russian mil doesn't have, for now at least, the capacity to degrade enemy bridges. And corrective actions must be performed asap.
https://t.me/blackcolonel2020/475

Why? Once again the fault is entirely on the pro-western Kremlin that bought the "end of history" insanity.
1- Decommunization, looting of the state, deindustrialization thus a lack of cruise missiles (enough to destroy ukrops energy infrastructure, not enough to bring bridges down) 2- Lack of high-precision cruise missiles 3- Insane political orders in february that prevented the military to easily take down ukrops AD, thus preventing the use of air power that could bring bridges down with cost-effective weapons. Then Russia could have simply waited and dragged Nato in with a limited force WHILE protecting more efficiently the Donbass territory.
Great news: now there is political pressure on civilian and military elites to rectify decades of sabotage and ideologically driven mistakes.
AND it seems that the energy and railway in Ukraine is finally going down! Hopefully the EU zombies will be gifted with millions of ukrainian refugees. Let them eat cake and firewood right?

And a good point raised regarding the information / psychological war front on this Tg channel:
"Psychological and information warfare, just like conventional warfare, does not stand still. The society in which we live is changing, societies in neighboring countries are changing." https://t.me/vladlentatarsky/16755

May the american, british and EU imperialists be finally defeated. May the russian people prevail and live in peace and safety after this existential war.

Posted by: Kareem | Oct 11 2022 13:47 utc | 70

Bruised Northerner | Oct 11 2022 13:30 utc | 59

You lot westies are going to have to get a lot more desperate before you raise your eyes from off the floor

Look around you! tasty fat great US embassies as far as the eye can see! if not... compounds, corporate offices executive estates - huge amounts of lovely real estate!!

Give a dog a bone, why not

Posted by: Gerrard White | Oct 11 2022 13:48 utc | 71

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2022 13:28 utc | 58

"This war isn't over until the West is comprehensively humiliated, and that is going to break a lot of precious hearts."

This is something that I read a LOT, from supporters of both sides of the confilct.

The quiet part, not written, is painfully obvious. What if 'my' side doesn't win?
Did I believe in false propaganda, was it all a lie? Do I need to change my thinking, my views?
Or even my behaviour?

It's indeed possible there are many broken hearts in store for people who only participated in the internet. However, I don't mourn for them, but for all the people who died in the conflict :(

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Oct 11 2022 13:49 utc | 72

A.z [10]

Probably taking off from Poland and Romania and being vectored by NATO AWACS planes

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Oct 11 2022 13:49 utc | 73

OK, further upstream a Euro posted that an American commenter didn't fully understand Europe.

I guess it's time to repay the compliment: do Euros really not understand how the Americas were formed? You can draw a complete, uninterrupted arc from Columbus to Russia today.

Americans like competition, they like winning and they like conquest. They enjoy the spoils of war, revel in their attendant lifestyles, and justify it all via both ecclesiastical and secular rationalizations.

But our weakness is stupidity; very few were paying attention when the mules who were rewarded for their dirty work became slated for replacement.

I would guess true anti-war sentiment is around 50%. In other words, Trump supporters who along with Russians are targeted for elimination in the reset.

Putin seems to have figured this out before most Americans. As has been daid here before, ukraine isn't just some territorial skirmish..

Rather, it's for "all the marbles", which is why the borg won't stop until it is stopped.

Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 11 2022 13:49 utc | 74

NATO will hold nuclear deterrence exercises next week, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said.

“The victory of the Russian Federation in the conflict in Ukraine will be a defeat for NATO and this cannot be allowed. NATO sees no signs of Russia's intention to use nuclear weapons, but remains vigilant.” - Stoltenberg

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2022 13:51 utc | 75

B,

Forget about the day to day action on the battlefield...look at the action in the Western financial markets. We are on the brink of a financial apocalypse. Turns out printing money is the path to self immolation. Russia is sitting pretty while the West implodes. We're looking at quasi sovereign defaults in Europe and Japan for sure.

Posted by: Ivan | Oct 11 2022 13:52 utc | 76

Tom UK [60]

That is exactly what Adolf Hitler said about “Terror Flieger” in WW2 and why downed USAAF aircrew were murdered in Rüsselsheim

You clearly have a peculiar notion of war and no doubt will condemn Israel for hiding in radar signature of civilian aircraft and even an unarmed Russian AWACS plane to murder cu Klimas in Syria

And to murder civilians in Palestine without mercy

Or the UK spotters helping Saudi planes with a rigide pilots kill civilians in Yemen

Or the killings in Libya by RAF planes flying from Italy

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Oct 11 2022 13:54 utc | 77

Potential of bright white flashes over UK next week, after nato basically admits they were part of conflict:
"Russia's victory in the conflict in Ukraine will be NATO's defeat, this cannot be allowed. NATO to hold nuclear deterrence exercises next week - Stoltenberg"

Can't wait!

Posted by: rk | Oct 11 2022 13:57 utc | 78

🇺🇦🇺🇲 Ukrainian telegram channel:

Someone explain to NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg that by making statements that the victory of the Russian Federation in the conflict with Ukraine will be the defeat of NATO, he indirectly confirms the direct participation of the Western military alliance in this game, and also gives the Russians an excellent public trump card to relay this message to their audience , as evidence that the Russian Federation is at war with NATO.

Is it really so bad with the support of the Ukrainian crisis within NATO that such a message had to be voiced directly.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2022 13:58 utc | 79

🇺🇦🇺🇲 Ukrainian telegram channel:

Someone explain to NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg that by making statements that the victory of the Russian Federation in the conflict with Ukraine will be the defeat of NATO, he indirectly confirms the direct participation of the Western military alliance in this game, and also gives the Russians an excellent public trump card to relay this message to their audience , as evidence that the Russian Federation is at war with NATO.

Is it really so bad with the support of the Ukrainian crisis within NATO that such a message had to be voiced directly.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2022 13:58 utc | 80

Posted by: TempoNick | Oct 11 2022 10:18 utc | 5
Rare for a moron to admit that he voted twice for Cheney. Let me guess you also voted for Obama and then Trump.

Posted by: Tim | Oct 11 2022 13:58 utc | 81

B9k9 [73]

Whether Americans like war or not they refuse to pay for it

Ever since Vietnam they have waged war on credit and consumed as if war cost nothing

Trade Deficits and Budget Deficits led to $31 trillion National Debt and Biden added $5 Trillion before Midterms

If Americans actually paid taxes to fund their militarism it would soon stop

Why not have a new Fund the Pentagon Sales Tax ? It currently consumes the entire Federal Income Tax revenues

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Oct 11 2022 13:59 utc | 82

Who is really killing Ukrainian civilians?

The same scum as before

https://southfront.org/massacre-in-kupyansk-nazi-propagandist-fail-to-whitewash-ukraine/

Posted by: Tom_12 | Oct 11 2022 14:00 utc | 83

@ Tim | Oct 11 2022 13:58 utc | 80

You either never made a mistake, never own up to your mistakes, or decided to be mean.

Don't be mean.

Posted by: dfg | Oct 11 2022 14:04 utc | 84

An update on Russian missile strikes today, and positions of US Carrier Strike Groups.

https://southfront.org/another-busy-morning-for-russian-missiles-over-ukraine/

https://southfront.org/locations-of-us-carrier-strike-groups-october-11-2022/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2022 14:06 utc | 85

b, as I've said before, I do wish you'd arrange to put the posters' names AT THE TOP of their posts, so then it would be easy to pass over the posts of self-identified fools/trolls such as tomuk without wasting any time on them.

MoA is too valuable a resource not to follow discussions here. But wading through the deliberate wrecking rubbish which the fools/trolls post is such a pain, and a waste of useful time. Give us a chance to identify them at once, and each of us can then make our own list of dross-posters to skip over.

Posted by: Rhisiart Gwilym | Oct 11 2022 14:06 utc | 86

What does the blinken admin do now?

Posted by: chunga | Oct 11 2022 13:08 utc | 53

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You have to realize the only play was to stress (via encirclement) and isolate russia in order to inflict sufficient economic and social disruption to foster regime change aka color revolution.

There was never any possible way of actually militarily defeating, occupying and governing Russia itself; it had to be an assisted inside job.

Well, it was obvious that failed, so now it's just a play for time to allow the perps to regroup and plot.

Remember, the ultimate end goal is global empire with complete control over the globes natural resources and directed population management.

That's why a nuke exchange doesn't help them. Their one key advantage is group adhesion - time is on their side.

There is no reason why India, China or Russia itself (once again) can not be the new seat of power.

The US itself can devolve into 2-3 antagonistic states that are more easily managed from abroad.

It's mentioned every now and then, but it's critical to never forget that these wars are simply a game, a mere amusement for demons.

If you can shift perspective, then you'll understand their motivations. Peace, family, friends, well being - all terribly boring goals for stupid cattle.

Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 11 2022 14:08 utc | 87

@Tom UK | Oct 11 2022 13:15 utc | 54

If this is so, then Russia has been acting in extreme bad faith for the last decade. This begs the question as to why any nation in Europe would trust Russia on anything going forward.

How exactly is preparing for an inevitable proxy war by the USA "acting in bad faith"?

@Tom UK | Oct 11 2022 13:31 utc | 60

If there are casualties from Ukrainian air defences (possible), then the cause is Russian strikes on cities. After all, without the latter, there wouldn’t be the former.

Nonsense. If the nazis and NATO towel boys in charge in Kiev didn't want the cruise missiles, they shouldn't have been acting like a bunch of nazis hell-bent on exterminating and ethnic cleansing the Donbass. They could have at least upheld the Minsk accords (which they admitted they never wanted to and never tried - nor were they allowed by the USA and UK.)

BTW Tom UK, since you're relatively new here, you may be surprized that the long developing history of the Ukraine proxy conflict has been well publicized and debated here, long before the escalatory events in January and February of this year. Whereas your awareness only starts with the cheat sheet passed to you by your superior at the 77th brigade. Realizing this may help you understand why most of your contributions are frequently smirked at by the regulars. If in the future you would like to make less of a besmirched appearance here, it would surely aid you to study e.g. who Jaroslav Stetko was, and why he was such a darling of the American deep state. That may also make it more clear to you why Russia is entirely justified to be prepared. The bad faith is entirely on the side of your paymasters.

Until then, keep scraping at the bottom of the barrel.

Posted by: Lurk | Oct 11 2022 14:09 utc | 88

@Rhisiart Gwilym | Oct 11 2022 14:06 utc | 85

Unfortunately b approves tomuk and shitoda.

Posted by: rk | Oct 11 2022 14:14 utc | 89

Posted by: dfg | Oct 11 2022 14:04 utc | 83

Another 2X Cheney voter.

Posted by: Tim | Oct 11 2022 14:14 utc | 90

B9k9: whether Americans like war or not they refuse to pay for it

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Oct 11 2022 13:59 utc | 81

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Euro perspective again?

Lol - Americans have *never* paid for a war. We have gained incredible advantages via territorial conquests for over 400 years (first gb, then usa) up to and including recent nato expansion.

Taxes levied on americans arent even necessary. They're used for controlling individual wealth accumulation, but certainly play no part regarding budgetary spending.

It only comes to an end if we lose in ukraine. And when I say "we", I mean the donkeys left holding the bag. The real culprits will be off setting up their new homes.

Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 11 2022 14:17 utc | 91

🇷🇺 Inspection of the damage to the Crimean bridge from the sea. The towers are reportedly due to be fully repaired by the end of this week. Well, the terms for replacing spans are 1-1.5 months.

Of course, the builders will do everything to speed up the process. Which is quite possible, given the fact that the construction of the Crimean bridge was also achieved ahead of schedule.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2022 14:19 utc | 92

🇷🇺 Inspection of the damage to the Crimean bridge from the sea. The towers are reportedly due to be fully repaired by the end of this week. Well, the terms for replacing spans are 1-1.5 months.

Of course, the builders will do everything to speed up the process. Which is quite possible, given the fact that the construction of the Crimean bridge was also achieved ahead of schedule.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2022 14:19 utc | 93

@87 Lurk

The only country preparing for war, proxy or otherwise, was Russia. The West had no desire or interest in this war. Europe just wanted Russian gas and a comfortable existence. We’re all latte soy boys remember? Albeit, with better weapons :)

The only ones banging on about ‘ethnic cleansing’ are Russian nationalists. Russian State TV at one point was quite keen on removing Ukraine and Ukrainians from the map. They have dialled that one back given recent events.

Finally, Russia started all this on 24 Feb, and Europe has taken heed. Russia will be isolated for several generations as a consequence.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 11 2022 14:20 utc | 94

The plan at this point I think is the EU led by the US terrorist state will continue to supply whatever weapons and military support they can muster to the Ukro regime, and in addition attempt to weaken Russia economically in every possible way including continued terrorist acts against Russian infrastructure. It’s all they got at this point.

Posted by: krypton | Oct 11 2022 13:41 utc | 65

Maybe. Makes sense. But it's also 'demilitarizing' the West which is quickly running out of inventory and now lacks the manufacturing base and raw materials access to replace them rapidly. One of those Youtube military channels which I had on this morning to follow the recent ramp-up mentioned that the US already cannot keep existing inventory levels up to par with equipment sold to Saudi Arabia which is not currently at war I don't think. The West is a hollow shell. On the one hand this is good news because it lacks the means to prosecute a prolonged war; on the other hand it's bad news because it makes their only powerful option that of dropping nukes on adversaries.

Also, Biden has almost got rid of all of US's strategic oil reserve, even selling some to Middle Eastern countries. So if there IS a crunch soon, they have no energy cushion.

They are extremely efficient and skillful at being consistently inept. That's about the most positive take one can have. Otherwise, more nefarious possibilities must be entertained.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 11 2022 14:26 utc | 95

Stoltenberg means that losing Ukraine will defeat Nato. Why?

Because Russia controls most of the economically valuable areas and resources, which were supposed to be extracted by Nato. Additionally, the impoverished rump will not be the kind of new exploitative market that could prolong the life of USD hegemony, rather the current form of rump will only be a drain which will accelerate its death. It will be like the East and West Germany on steroids, and associated costs which are prohibitive.

The USD hegemony is currently eating itself alive by first sacrificing the EU, as there are no other alternatives. Originally one could have thought that US would be satisfied with the prize of gaining a tighter grip on EU but apparently they are not. It really makes no difference.

We already heard some dissenting EU voices which, reading between the lines depict the reality as US sacrificing EU, but as if there is some mysterious force preventing anyone doing anything about it. EU will break up into those who want to simply survive, and those hard-line suiciders for uncle Schmuel. This is the thing Stoltenberg would want to prevent, but there's no preventing it.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 11 2022 14:26 utc | 96

Surovikin’s birthday today
Like Putin he appears to be Libran

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Oct 11 2022 14:27 utc | 97

I remember it being reported some time ago that the Ukraine rail system only has 8 diesel locomotives. This would seem to me to be a logical next target, it's hard to hide locomotives and NATO would be unable to supply replacements.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 11 2022 14:28 utc | 98

Tulsi Gabbard just now:

I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms, are…

So if she can see it, we can see can it, is the E27 'leadership' really unable to see it ?

Posted by: Lapin | Oct 11 2022 14:28 utc | 99

The usage of s300 missiles for ground strikes do indicate they r having difficulties with ammo but then again they r fighting for 7 month and fighting against the arsenal of entire nato and s300 missiles r of old stock so that one can be reasonably argued to be a clever adaptation.

Posted by: A.z | Oct 11 2022 10:33 utc | 10
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oops
Do you know the tactical specifications of the S300?
No..... read up on what's in there!
S300 is an ideal weapon to engage ground targets up to a distance of 25 km.
Their use is specifically not designed to defend against air targets!
So, let's think about how long the S300 system has been around and why it was designed as an almost universal system?
It's basically a very old system from Soviet times!
Hardly suitable for today's modern cruise missiles!
Only the modernized variants can still intercept Kamikaze drones... But the successes of these drones will tell you for sure what Ukraine has and what successes it has !!
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I saw this system live when I was in the army and that was over 30 years ago and even when we were trained on it there were more curses and swear words for this junk!
But it was often used as a ground-to-ground weapon with a high hit rate, mainly against human unarmored enemies because of its low explosive power!
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S300 is NOT comparable to the S400 and S500 system modified for Russians and Russian Army only.
Both versions are ONLY exported in the basic version...the modified versions are ONLY reserved for Russia!

Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 11 2022 14:28 utc | 100