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October 24, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-182

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

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In response to Melaleuca@324,

They need a pretext to get NATO involved.

Who are they trying to convince? If NATO had the balls to formally get involved in the conflict, I don’t believe they would need any additional motivation to do so. They could point to any number of media spun atrocities at this point.
Additionally, an actual nuclear provocation is neither the easiest nor the most appropriate catalyst for NATO intervention. A stray rocket fired at a base in Poland, originating in Ukrainian territory from “unknown actors,” and you have a bona fide, legalistically sound article 5 trigger and the perfect excuse for securing Ukrainian territory. Best of all, it’s a parallel effort to what Russia is doing, so there’s the possibility of deconfliction ala Syria and achieving some rump-Ukraine objective without triggering WW3.
Meanwhile, a dirty bomb blamed on Russia is the exact opposite of all that. NATO are not nuclear specialists and nuclear weapons don’t have a role to play in their mission statement or responsibilities of mutual defense. NATO are not a peace-keeping force and Ukrainian territory is still not NATO-protected territory. The narrative of stopping further nuclear strikes by Russia does not mesh with occupying Ukrainian territory that’s being targeted by nuclear strikes — the obvious target for NATO intervention then is Russian nuclear facilities.
If the goal is an attempt to trigger a direct confrontation between Russia & NATO with a dirty bomb false flag, that’s a reasonable interpretation, provided that NATO isn’t in on the joke. They’d be drawn into the conflict reluctantly and on the back-foot. If the goal is to deter Russia from conducting further operations in Ukraine, then the threat of a dirty bomb, on its own, would be a more effective deterrent than a NATO deployment under a false pretext, where they could be targeted with impunity.

Posted by: Skiffer | Oct 25 2022 12:16 utc | 401

So… It’s all just “business as usual “ ?
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 25 2022 10:44 utc | 379
Did you forget about China and Iran and Serbia and Mali and so on?
Starlink receivers appeared among protesters in Iran. Syria is bombed again these days by Israel. Lots of natoids arriving in Mali with lots of weapons.

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 12:29 utc | 402

@ Richard Steven Hack | Oct 25 2022 11:26 utc | 390
@ Jax | Oct 25 2022 11:48 utc | 400
…view (shared by others) is that the highest chance of a dirty bomb (or other major event) happening is before the US mid-terms on Nov 8. Just 2 weeks today. I will be a lot more relaxed if on Nov 9th nothing has happened.
Absolutely nothing of such will happen.
Small sabotages on RF territory now and then will probably happen.
I doubt that ‘NS2 blows again and the Kerch bridge too, while ZPP is obliterated by HIMARS and dam is blown, while ‘dirty bomb’ just exploded as we speak’ actions will happen.
What is happening now is semi-clandestine movement all over the NATO space in an attempt of strengthening NATO borders with US troops and NATO forces. It could be just a strategic attempt to try to equalise the troops balance at the NATO borders.
I doubt that they will intervene into Ukraine openly. RF knows that covertly they are already there, although so far only few have been caught as a proof, as far as I know. Poles mostly. No active SAS or any of that sort.
Otherwise, what that troop shuffle could mean?
I cannot imagine a Syria scenario there at all.
What I expect at some point is perhaps a cordoning off Ukraine as a spill prevention. Not so much that RF will go for it or has the means of rolling into Romania or Moldova.
It could also be a preparation for a dialogue at some point, as Ukraine might be pressured to stop fighting and talk.
I am sure everyone has noticed that RF didn’t push beyond the borders of annexed regions/republics. Some territory percentage still needs to be cleared, but if that can be achieved in talks it might be better for both RF and Ukraine.
I still do not believe in any nuclear thing happening there unless some stupid Ukrainian breach of ZPP nuclear power plant, by shelling or whatever.

Posted by: whirlX | Oct 25 2022 12:44 utc | 403

I am sure everyone has noticed that RF didn’t push beyond the borders of annexed regions/republics.
Posted by: whirlX | Oct 25 2022 12:44 utc | 411
But they haven’t pushed even to the borders of the regions yet. Almost no progress in 2 months. They die for nothing. If they don’t go to Ukr borders, terrorism will continue forever. If they don’t take Odessa it will become a nato base. Transnistria and its ammo depot is basically lost at this moment. EU will use the stolen money to keep the war going many years, training terrorists in EU bases. Hitting Russia with their own hand. It’s funny, in a way.

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 12:55 utc | 404

Zelensky wants to start moving towards the capture of Abkhazia, Transnistria and the Kuriles
Zelensky said that the format of the Crimean Platform forum should be extended to other territories, such as Abkhazia, Transnistria, as well as the Kuril Islands.

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 13:03 utc | 405

Zelensky wants to start moving towards the capture of Abkhazia, Transnistria and the Kuriles
Zelensky said that the format of the Crimean Platform forum should be extended to other territories, such as Abkhazia, Transnistria, as well as the Kuril Islands.
Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 13:03 utc | 413

Maria should write a riposte and tell the world that Russia should use the format of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as a platform for cleansing Ukraine from terrorists and terrorist-minded.
Only that Maria is far too clever to retort to a retard who is lying as long as his mouth is moving.

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Oct 25 2022 13:12 utc | 406

Dead Hand vs. Dead Brain
Posted by: james | Oct 25 2022 0:38 utc | 267
Thank you for the link. Very interesting article. I have to wonder though, if there really are thousands of NATO troops in Ukraine uniforms. It wouldn’t be a complete surprise but to hide/disguise this you would need bilingual radio operators/officers. No doubt in my mind though that NATO troops are manning the HIMARS and other advanced systems.

Posted by: ctiger | Oct 25 2022 13:12 utc | 407

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 13:03 utc | 413
When Zelinsky confided in you about his ambitions, did he show you on a map where Abkhazia and the Kuril Islands were, or did your fertile imagination suffer from some gaps in geography?
Did he also specify whether he was going there with his troops by underwater train or flying boat?

Posted by: UncleTom | Oct 25 2022 13:21 utc | 408

james @ 267

Very interesting article. I have to wonder though, if there really are thousands of NATO troops in Ukraine uniforms

Problem would be prisoners, seems pretty true that Russians capture a bunch of Ukrainians each day. I don’t doubt the thousands of NATO troops present but they’re mostly supporting and those fighting only go where they have an assured exit, keeping out of the meat grinder, which they are too good for, and the POW camps which would be very problematic for NATO. A few stragglers caught I could see but several hundred Poles or Americans would be a disaster for USA/NATO.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 25 2022 13:27 utc | 409

Zelensky wants to start moving towards the capture of Abkhazia, Transnistria and the Kuriles
rk @ 413
Well, Zelly is quite mad. Such dreams are quite normal for him.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 25 2022 13:29 utc | 410

Why would a dirty bomb necessitate a nuclear escalation?
Posted by: NewWorldDisorder | Oct 25 2022 4:01 utc | 306
It probably won’t. But we live in a world driven by narrative which carries far more weight than actuality.
That said, hysterical narrative can be used to justify outrageously bad actions. It seems clear that the narrative volume is increasing.
The DOJ trots out yesterday in US announcing arrests of Chinese spies in the homeland – there are thousands of them all the time so why make public arrests right now (mid-terms, Taiwan escalation?).
Both sides are rattling narrative chains, might even really be about a dirty bomb or busted dam, might be something else. Putin and Biden supposedly talked directly yesterday. Maybe they are coordinating their mini-nuclear exchange to make sure it terrifies all of us but doesn’t actually lead to all-out nuclear armageddon, or maybe they are considering deescalation. Either way, we’ll all be the last to know.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 13:30 utc | 411

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Oct 25 2022 5:56 utc | 318
Thanks. Very clarifying post.
It appears your experience with the very very small provides great perspective in wider fields…

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 13:46 utc | 412

Hermit, further to 406
You and I know what a milliSievert is. Unlike other commenters here we would agree that a Sievert is real, not a story for children. Dosimetry for radiation workers is about as real as PCR tests. Always fudged for engineers at NPPs, who might have a clue what is going on. For miners I would give no credence to the numbers at all.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 25 2022 14:04 utc | 413

as I said before, even if a dirty bomb is exploded and caused Russian soldier or Russian civilian casualties, I don’t see Russia directly retaliating against either US or NATO forces outside Ukraine (with the possible exception of NATO spy aircraft) or directly attacking US or NATO command and control outside Ukraine. I do see them decapitating the Kiev regime.
The details don’t really matter. What matters is that if the plan is executed, and Russia retaliates, what happens next? As I keep saying, always ask the next question and don’t fixate on one point in the chain of events.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 25 2022 11:26 utc | 390
Also, this is a multi-level affair. The kinetics in Ukraine, which seems to be escalating, have their own fact and propaganda patterns but also they are part of a larger psyop against western civilization which both domestic elites and Russia-China axis are prosecuting.
So one effect of escalation will be the further deterioration of the world economy, though because of sanctions it will hit the West hardest since they are more dependent upon critical imports they cannot harvest from within their own territories. And given the already terrible politico-social situation in most western countries following covid and now this conflict, history-making levels of internal turmoil, even strife, might soon be on the menu.
Think chaos, uncertainty, failure to achieve positive results, rising crime, energy rationing, food shortages.
So whenever this conflict gets more unwieldy and worrisome, so also do western polities go deeper into their tailspin. As intended – or so it seems to me.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 14:40 utc | 414

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 13:03 utc | 413
Zelly also said this today:
“The EU will be able to replace Russian energy resources with our help, and our electricity exports will potentially be one of the fundamental pillars of European climate policy – Zelensky
Cocaine head, you don‘t even have enough electricity for your own country”
https://t.me/levigodman/5795
Like Lavrov said, Ze says a lot of things depending on the day and amount of cocainum. Also, most of the gas and mineral resources are east of Dnieper and in the Black sea basin. In fact Russia doesn’t even need those resources, they need to just deny their use from the west.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 25 2022 14:46 utc | 415

unimperator | Oct 25 2022 14:46 utc | 425
Yes, he talks crap but it’s crap he is given to say to MSM for various purposes.
I hope he overdoses himself soon.
Until then, the strikes started this morning in Donbass continued uninterrupted all day. Baldie seems to be in vacation. 50-60 nato 155mm rounds in Donetsk alone. They say on various channels that there are dead and wounded but no number yet.
Putin had a public meeting. They still seem to be at early prepare stage.
He said: “We need a faster pace of work in all areas and a more realistic assessment of the situation as a whole, we need to focus on real needs, equipment for special operation must be modern, convenient and efficient. It is necessary to update procedures and regulatory frameworks of economy as a whole, and of individual industries, and to ensure adequate supply of provisions to Special Military Operation”.

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 15:02 utc | 416

PCR latest:
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/10/25/armageddon-is-closer-than-you-think/
[conclusion]

As there was no effective Russian response to provocations, despite declared “red lines,” next training for Ukrainian troops was provided.Then intelligence and targeting information. Then longer distance weapons that can reach strategic Russian targets.Then the attack on the Crimea bridge, the Nord Stream Pipelines, and now a plot for a dirty bomb, to be used as an excuse for US intervention with troops deployed in Romania and the destruction of a dam that would destroy the Russian city of Kherson and leave elite Russian special forces soldiers isolated and subject to Ukrainian capture,which would be a tremendous propaganda victory for the West.
As matters now stand, we have a situation where Putin’s method of warfare constrains his own forces and not his enemies. The latest indications are that Putin and the Russian high command are willing for the initiative to remain in the hands of their Western enemies. The Kremlin reacts to the moves of its enemy.If Ukraine with US and UK help blow the Dniper Dam and flood Kherson, then, and only then, perhaps, maybe,Russia will blow the dam that will win them the war by cutting a large chunk of Ukraine off from Ukraine.Apparently, the Kremlin hasn’t addressed the question why Russia accepts casualties and the appearance of humiliating defeats when Russia can easily win the war in one day.
Washington’s provocations mount, and Putin’s response is not a show of force but a plea for negotiations and offers to supply Russia’s NATO enemies with energy. Little wonder Washington escalates the conflict.
The lack of decisive action by Russia has allowed Washington to put humanity on the road to Armageddon.Washington and its NATO puppets have lost their fear of Russia, and the provocations will continue.As Putin has not defended any Russian declared red lines, Washington believes he has none. Putin does not even defend Syria, a country he rescuedfrom Washington’s conquest, from Israeli attacks.
Patience is a virtue in a leader, but Putin’s patience is seen by many in Washington as a lack of resolution. If this interpretation of Putin’s patience turns out to be a mistake, Washington will cross a red line that will bring us into the Armageddon period of human history.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/10/24/the-ever-widening-war-becomes-wider/
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/10/24/breaking-news-rushing-toward-armageddon/
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/10/23/the-ever-widening-war-6/
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/10/22/the-ever-widening-war-5/
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/10/24/fred-reed-indicates-what-nuclear-war-would-be-like-but-steven-starrs-comment-better-describes-the-death-of-the-planet/

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I think there is another angle to consider here namely that even if everything PCR is saying is more or less correct, that doesn’t mean that Putin’s strategy makes no sense. Think Moscow invaded first by Napoleon then by Hitler. Russia’s classic tactic, similar to many who live in plains-territory, and similar to Genghis’s feint retreat which turned into a lassoo-envelopment of a now stretched-out enemy, is to allow the enemy to make its moves.
Recent reports are putting Ukrainian KIA as well North of 200,000 so probably double or triple that in wounded. US KIA in Vietnam over many years was under 60,000 I believe. They advance and the Bear guns them down.
If NATO now advances the same approach will be used even if they have to retreat from currently held territories for a while. More importantly, the advances on the ground require expenditure of financial and political capital both of which are in short supply. The longer the West sacrifices the well-being of its people for the benefit of the Khazarian Mafia in its midst driving Russo-phobic genocidal policies, the more tenuous their hold on power, the more their true face and corrupt agenda will be exposed. This exposure is similar to Napoleon in empty Moscow – he achieved his objective and realized, then and there, that he had achieved nothing. Yes, they will have mobilized the West to achieve their age-old ambition of kicking the Rus out of Russia just like the Rus kicked the Khazars out of Khazaria, but in so doing they will have revealed their true face and thus be stripped bare of all pretense.
At which point their hold on the West will falter, indeed fall.
Putin and Russia cannot win this conflict unless their true adversary is deposed. Their adversaries are not the European, British and American people, most of whom don’t even know where Ukraine is (or Russia for that matter). Their adversaries are the financial globalist/hegemonic elites in the West who have captured those nations. Their power is based on money and deceit. They are going to have to lose both.
So Russia might be ready for escalation. And they might be more than able to play this one out in slow painful ways that will continue to infuriate PCR.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 15:08 utc | 417

@ RB | Oct 25 2022 9:10 utc | 361
well it seems @ anon2020 | Oct 25 2022 8:34 utc | 353 is misreading him too… i don’t think so, but i remain open minded… carry on!
@ ctiger | Oct 25 2022 13:12 utc | 417 and @ LightYearsFromHome | Oct 25 2022 13:27 utc | 419
thanks, but it was the poster before me that motivated me to see and post that article.. i thought it was good, but very long! i also have difficulty with the idea of a huge number of nato forces working inside ukraine.. some – yes… a huge amount – unlikely..
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@ old microbiologist… thanks for your post, or posts..
@ richard steven hack – good to see you back!

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2022 15:08 utc | 418

@ Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 15:08 utc | 427
i don’t find pcr believable… he sounds more full of shit actually…
i do however agree with you here – ” Their adversaries are the financial globalist/hegemonic elites in the West “..

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2022 15:11 utc | 419

More:
If we work within framework of standard bureaucratic procedures, hide behind formalities, we will not get the desired result in any area – Putin.

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 15:14 utc | 420

wagelaborer @254: “We living in the west never get to hear the US/NATO spin, so it’s important for you to post it here “for balance”.”
Laugh all you want, but the delusional “Establishment” pukes literally believe that their narrative management is losing traction because the “deplorables” are in an information bubble. They think all they have to do is shout the same bullshit louder and in more places and the stragglers who are drifting away from the “official narrative” will realize the error of their ways and get back in line.
That is why the “Establishment” pays trolls like the one you mentioned to come here and imitate a TV on the wall of the bar blaring CNN 24X7.
It is tragic, really. The empire’s “Establishment” pukes are truly stupid, and insulated from awareness of their own stupidity by the Dunning-Kruger effect. As graduates of university-level special education or entertainment/babysitting programs like Journalism and Humanities, they have participation trophy diplomas that reassure them they are smarter than the “deplorables” they are trying to manipulate. They are surrounded in their cubicle warrens by equally stupid special ed graduates with equally useless participation diplomas who circle-jerk at the water cooler to reinforce their delusion of competence.
Of course, it is the empire’s “Establishment” pukes who are locked in the narrative bubble, which is why their narratives lose traction with sane people and why their actions end in failure, but they have lots of company in that bubble. Sadly, you cannot explain this to them because they think it is the rest of the world that is in the bubble. They are certain everyone here is brainwashed by Putin, though perhaps only on odd days. On even days we are all brainwashed by China’s president Xi, and then on holidays we are brainwashed by Assad or Maduro or Raisi. Because of course these “enemies” have propaganda networks budgeted with many hundreds of billions of dollars like the Empire of Delusions does.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 25 2022 15:19 utc | 421

A bit of surprising common sense from Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre:

🇳🇴🇷🇺Norwegian Prime Minister (https://t.me/azmilitary11/26687): “There is nothing good in isolating Russia. It is alarming that today we have so few contacts and direct communication with Russia.This weakens the possibility of reaching negotiations on the end of the war”

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 25 2022 15:32 utc | 422

“history-making levels of internal turmoil, even strife, .. chaos, uncertainty, failure to achieve positive results, rising crime, energy rationing, food shortages…”
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 14:40 utc | 424
The time tested solution is a “great reset” except that such is only possible via global catastrophe. Think pandemic or global war. There is also the spreading meme of the necessity of significant population reduction (due to lack of carrying capacity) and these “ideas” are promoted mostly by western elites.
Putins and Chinas nukes may very well be our life insurance,.

Posted by: bottle | Oct 25 2022 15:37 utc | 423

Putin and Russia cannot win this conflict unless their true adversary is deposed.
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 15:08 utc | 427
Wrong. You want them to do what? Nuke nato?
It’s much easier. The conflict can end at any moment, probably in a week, by striking the nato nazi puppets in the military and government, destruction of power grid, barracks, highways and rails to natoland in the entire Kiev/Lvov side
After 7 months, hits on 30% of the power grid with effects visible next year don’t change anything. Baldie doesn’t even take advantage of blackouts and the temporary loss of electric trains. Weak defense everywhere, not even in Belgorod/Kursk. Very few troops, only try to hold positions. Deaths of their soldiers and civilians, destruction of cities continues uninterrupted. Mobilized and volunteers exist only on paper. Why? No one knows.

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 15:38 utc | 424

@ marko | Oct 25 2022 15:14 utc | 430
marko believes pcr… lol… i rest my case!! scorpio – don’t bother posting that shit!

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2022 15:40 utc | 425

@ Norwegian | Oct 25 2022 15:32 utc | 433
thanks.. i wonder when that finally dawned on him? wonder how long it takes for it to dawn on others?

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2022 15:42 utc | 426

@james | Oct 25 2022 15:42 utc | 437
I don’t know. Will will see if it is repeated.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 25 2022 15:53 utc | 427

Paul Greenwood | Oct 25 2022 12:08 utc | 406
“………You really think US has 100,000 fighting soldiers in Europe ?????? !!!!!!!!!
You really need to pay attention….>
1… Where 100,000 U.S. troops are stationed in Europe: March 18, 2022

https://www.axios.com/2022/03/23/where-100000-us-troops-are-stationed-europe
“President Biden will meet Friday with U.S. troops stationed in Poland, a key NATO ally currently housing 10,500 of the 100,000 American service members now deployed across Europe.
Since Russia’s military buildup on Ukraine’s border began in October, the U.S. and other NATO countries have deployed thousands of troops to reinforce eastern-flank countries like Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria and Romania.
* Hundreds of thousands of NATO forces, comprised of troops under both national and NATO command, are on heightened alert across the alliance.
* They’re backed by significant air and naval power, including 130 allied aircraft on high alert and 140 allied ships at sea, as well as sophisticated air defense systems.
Worth noting: The U.S. also has troops stationed in 10 non-NATO countries for peacekeeping and other cooperation missions.
* They include Kosovo (800), Cyprus (100) and the potential future NATO members of Sweden (10) and Finland (5).
What to watch: Biden will use his Europe trip to work with allies on “longer-term adjustments to NATO force posture on the eastern flank,” national security adviser Jake Sullivan said Tuesday.
* That could potentially include a more permanent troop deployment in the Baltic states, which have been calling for reinforcement and sounding the alarm about Russian aggression for years.
* NATO had previously resisted that step in order to avoid antagonizing Moscow.
🔍 Go deeper: Click on a country in the chart above to see the number of U.S. troops in that individual nation.”

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 25 2022 15:57 utc | 428

scorpio – don’t bother posting that shit!
Posted by: james | Oct 25 2022 15:40 utc | 436
Ditto

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 16:08 utc | 429

@rk #435:

Mobilized and volunteers exist only on paper.

Bullshit. The mobilized and the volunteers are real. Most of them are yet to come to the front lines because it takes time to train people.

Posted by: S | Oct 25 2022 16:08 utc | 430

rk @ 413
«Zelensky wants to start moving towards the capture of Abkhazia, Transnistria and the Kuriles»
Posted by: Paulg | Oct 25 2022 13:29 utc | 420
«Well, Zelly is quite mad. Such dreams are quite normal for him.»
He has sometimes made very lucid, sensible remarks, by going off script…
As to dismembering the Russian Federation etc., here is a lithuanian fanatic with a “Smolensk in Lithuania” mug:
http://www2.cipd.co.uk/pm/peobplemanagement/b/weblog/archive/2013/01/29/temporary-flexiforce-is-the-future-of-business-says-cbi-2009-11.a
Here is the UK foreign minister first demanding the return of Rostov and Voronezh to Ukraine and then walking it back:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/10/russia-must-respect-ukraine-sovereignty-liz-truss-talks-open
«Away from the cameras, Truss allegedly confused the Russian regions of Voronezh and Rostov with Ukrainian territory when Lavrov asked her whether she recognised Russia’s sovereignty over them. She repeatedly told Lavrov that the UK would never recognise Moscow’s claim, until the British ambassador was forced to step in to correct her, the Russian business daily Kommersant reported. Truss partly confirmed the account in an interview with Russian press: “It seemed to me that Minister Lavrov was talking about a part of Ukraine. I have clearly indicated that these regions [Rostov and Voronezh] are part of sovereign Russia,”»
Obviously she did not make a mistake, she was sending a warning that the Russian Federation will be dismembered if it loses; and here is an USA government institute arguing quit exactly for that, “prometheian” style.
https://www.csce.gov/international-impact/events/decolonizing-russia
And an older argument by the usual Brzezinski for the same:
rk @ 413
«Zelensky wants to start moving towards the capture of Abkhazia, Transnistria and the Kuriles»
Posted by: Paulg | Oct 25 2022 13:29 utc | 420
«Well, Zelly is quite mad. Such dreams are quite normal for him.»
He has sometimes made very lucid, sensible remarks, by going off script…
As to dismembering the Russian Federation etc., here is a lithuanian fanatic with a “Smolensk in Lithuania” mug:
http://www2.cipd.co.uk/pm/peobplemanagement/b/weblog/archive/2013/01/29/temporary-flexiforce-is-the-future-of-business-says-cbi-2009-11.a
Here is the UK foreign minister first demanding the return of Rostov and Voronezh to Ukraine and then walking it back:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/10/russia-must-respect-ukraine-sovereignty-liz-truss-talks-open
«Away from the cameras, Truss allegedly confused the Russian regions of Voronezh and Rostov with Ukrainian territory when Lavrov asked her whether she recognised Russia’s sovereignty over them. She repeatedly told Lavrov that the UK would never recognise Moscow’s claim, until the British ambassador was forced to step in to correct her, the Russian business daily Kommersant reported. Truss partly confirmed the account in an interview with Russian press: “It seemed to me that Minister Lavrov was talking about a part of Ukraine. I have clearly indicated that these regions [Rostov and Voronezh] are part of sovereign Russia,”»
Obviously she did not make a mistake, she was sending a warning that the Russian Federation will be dismembered if it loses; and here is an USA government institute arguing quit exactly for that, “prometheian” style.
https://www.csce.gov/international-impact/events/decolonizing-russia
And here is the usual Brzezinski pushing “prometheism” not so long ago:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/asia/1997-09-01/geostrategy-eurasia
“A Geostrategy for Eurasia”, Zbigniew Brzezinski, September 1997:
«A loosely confederated Russia – composed of a European Russia, a Siberian Republic, and a Far Eastern Republic – would find it easier to cultivate closer economic relations with its neighbours. […] a decentralized Russia would be less susceptible to imperial mobilization. […] A sovereign Ukraine is a critically important component of such a policy, as is support for such strategically pivotal states as Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan.»

Posted by: Blissex | Oct 25 2022 16:10 utc | 431

Bullshit. The mobilized and the volunteers are real. Most of them are yet to come to the front lines because it takes time to train people.
Posted by: S | Oct 25 2022 16:08 utc | 439
Bullshit. They’re all military already. Plus 70k reported volunteers, also with military training.

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 16:25 utc | 432

Israeli media reports on transfer of “Smart Shooter” complexes to Kiev to fight alleged Iranian drones supplied to Russia by Tehran, after Israel said it would not send weapons to Ukraine.
“Smart Shooter” is a computerized high-precision remote-controlled gun turret.

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 16:26 utc | 433

US troops surpass 100,000 in Europe
June 27, 2022
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/06/us-troops-surpass-100000-in-europe/
The U.S. military has steadily built up its presence in Europe in the four months since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began.
Last week, North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said the U.S. “increased the number of U.S. troops in Europe from roughly 70,000 to more than 100,000 over these last months.”
In addition to the overall U.S. force size in Europe, Stoltenberg noted there are more than 40,000 troops from various countries under NATO’s direct command that are positioned on the eastern edge of the alliance.
NATO’s force consists of troops from a variety of alliance member nations.
In a May 20 U.S. State Department press briefing, department spokesman Ned Price had confirmed the U.S. plans to maintain an ongoing presence of 100,000 troops in Europe.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 25 2022 16:46 utc | 434

Posted by: Summary | Oct 25 2022 12:15 utc | 409

Thank you.

Posted by: David Levin | Oct 25 2022 16:58 utc | 435

“Putin’s slow and limited SMO half assed invasion is a blunder and a failure, putting us all in danger of nuclear war.”
— Posted by: Hannibal
Not a blunder and not yet a failure. There’s not much sand left to fall through the hour-glass, however. Sine qua non: the failure to confront and destroy the Zelensky regime’s Nazi-tinged administration, up to its leader is obviously a mistake, symbolically and functionally, and , yes, perhaps will soon indeed become the fatal flaw in Russia’s plan.
Note well: Any puppet regime, not merely Ze’s (and the one that would try to succeed it), will suit the Western powers.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 25 2022 17:05 utc | 436

@rk #441:

They’re all military already. Plus 70k reported volunteers, also with military training.

Some of those “with military training” have served as ordinary conscripts 20 years ago and have zero combat experience. Even those with combat experience in the past often have no idea how to operate modern comms systems, night vision systems, drones, etc. It takes time to train them. Plus, there are many problems with supplies that are currently being solved.
Here are videos from Rybar’s Rutube channel showing training of mobilized troops in various regions of Russia:
October 11: Leningrad oblast, Buryatiya Republic, Kaliningrad oblast
October 12: Tula oblast
October 13: Murmansk oblast
October 14: Novosibirsk
October 15: Moscow oblast, Voronezh, Tatarstan Republic
October 16: Samara oblast, Lugansk People’s Republic
October 17: Kaliningrad oblast
October 18: Primorye krai
October 19: Khabarovsk krai, Leningrad oblast
October 20: Samara oblast, Moscow oblast
October 21: Kostroma oblast, Novosibirsk oblast, Orenburg oblast
October 23: Kaliningrad oblast
October 24: Ryazan oblast
October 25: Kamchatka krai
So yeah, your claim that “mobilized and volunteers exist only on paper” is bullshit.
Whatever useful criticism of Russian Armed Forces you do offer is completely negated by the outlandish and completely untrue statements that you regularly make with much aplomb.

Posted by: S | Oct 25 2022 17:37 utc | 437

Every day we read of a number of tanks being destroyed….every few days Ukr loses another war plane. How many more of each remain?????Yes some repairs are in EU countries as Rus hits Ukr repair facilities..how many remain….Slovakia was donating some Migs to be be repaired-spares a while ago so are they in service one wonders.

Posted by: Jo | Oct 25 2022 17:38 utc | 438

@ Melaleuca | Oct 25 2022 16:46 utc | 443
Whatever US/NATO is putting along its eastern borders, it would be not enough to hold the frontline they are about to create unless they back down, anyway. The eastern overland length between RF and NATO/EU/US is about 4500 km, minus Turkye. That is a lots of BTGs to attend to.
I am just kidding there.
It doesn’t matter how many soldiers they put in Europe, it is just a waste of manpower, extra cost etc.
Unless those soldiers are used to suppress EU citizens when they turn at the gates of NATO bases to throw those out. Maybe.

Posted by: whirlX | Oct 25 2022 18:01 utc | 439

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2022 15:08 utc | 427
I do admire your even temper!

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 25 2022 18:02 utc | 440

Israeli media reports …
Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 16:26 utc | 442
Yeah, I’m sure you know well what the jew talking points are. I wish you, rk, would just fuck off and die.

Posted by: tucenz | Oct 25 2022 19:23 utc | 441

@oldhippie 407
There never was a valid justification for spreading poison, and those who do it would be prosecuted if there were an effective chemical weapons control regime not captured by the worst offenders.
It would apply to a vast range of weapons, including phosphorus fired at people (think Lebanon, Gaza and Fallujah), toxic antifoliants (think Vietnam, Korea, Myanmar), toxic herbicides (think any glyphosate-based herbicide anywhere) or depleted uranium (for it’s known and suspected chemical effects more than it’s limited radiological effects. Bear in mind that we eat bananas – and given that a banana produced about 100 nanosieverts, eating one banana a day for a year would expose you to higher radiation levels than a typical underground uranium miner. And because it would all be internal, the likelihood of it triggering cellular mutations would be higher in the banana eater than the miner. Which is why the proven nephrotoxicity, and suspected other chemical dangers of internal depleted uranium is where we should focus attention. Particularly in the absence of compelling epidemiological markers for radioactive toxicity in regions where depleted uranium (and other proven toxins including nitrogen compounds) have been deployed.

Posted by: Hermit | Oct 25 2022 19:35 utc | 442

S | Oct 25 2022 17:37 utc | 446
Slavynagrad says: Kadyrov’s headquarters near Kherson was hit with a Himars attack:40 dead and around 60 wounded.
Call me when the 370k appear, anywhere. Maybe they will.

Posted by: rk | Oct 25 2022 19:48 utc | 443

Scorpion@426
It seems to me that to understand Paul C Roberts one has to realise that he has a well known track record. He was part of the Reagan government that engaged in war after war after proxy war in the 1980s. And what they did in Central America, and elsewhere, was not pretty.
Nor in the long term has it proved to be effective- El Salvador was ruined but it has not become a staunch US ally. Nicaragua- where, one assumes, the ruthless tactics that PCR supports were notorious- has become, another Cuba in its resistance to Yanqui imperialism. Honduras now seems to be awakening from its nightmare.
And the story goes on: the US has, in country after country employed the tactics that Putin refuses to adopt, and in the long term they have proved to be, or will prove to be, unsuccessful.
The United States has spent a lot of money, killed a lot of people, including a few enemies, and the net result is that it is losing the hegemonic position that came to it by accident, rather than design, when to the amazement of Washington DC, the USSR collapsed into chaos as its ruling class tore its remains apart.

Posted by: bevin | Oct 25 2022 19:50 utc | 444

Posted by: Blissex | Oct 24 2022 22:03 utc | 230
Third, he says, his presidency saw the creation of an independent autocephalous Ukrainian church
Creating an alternative Church, from what I know, is a relatively new twist for the ‘Mormon schoolboys’ (aka Murder Inc.); creating alternative trade and student unions is SOP learned in freshman year at Langley U.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Oct 25 2022 19:59 utc | 445

@Melaleuca 437
At the height of the Cold War, with much higher staffing levels (See A HREF=”https://www.nato.int/cps/fr/natohq/declassified_138256.htm”>declassified NATO vs Warsaw Pact comparisons), NATO was fully aware that it could not prevent the USSR from marching to the Channel and establishing an Atlantic presence if it so chose. Which is why the planned response to a Russian incursion into Europe was for the USA to target Europe with nuclear weapons to prevent Russia from obtaining European skills, materiels and production capacity. At that time we did not realize that a nuclear war involving about 100 medium size nuclear devices detonated over cities would recreate the Permian–Triassic extinction event by causing a multi-decadal period in which photosynthesis will not be possible.
Today NATO has reserves about a tenth of Russia’s and the greedy but incompetent Western arms industry lags far behind Russia in many crucial areas. In the case of an existential war, every war game of the past 7 years reflects that Russia or China, separately or together, would destroy the West unless nuclear weapons were deployed. As this would result in human extinction, everyone sane knows that such wars should be avoided.

Posted by: Hermit | Oct 25 2022 20:10 utc | 446

For those still keeping score, Voltairenet has this new article:
“The Ukrainian Court of Cassation has finally banned all 12 political opposition parties. The last on the list was the Socialist Party of Ukraine.
“These groups are accused of having acted in accordance with the Minsk Agreements (2015), recognized by the United Nations Security Council (resolution 2202).
“In March, the Ukrainian Security Council adopted a decision to ban them. A law was passed by the Rada on 3 May, and signed by President Zelensky on the 14th. As the Russian Federation has decided to intervene in order to protect the victims resulting from the violations of the Minsk Agreements, any reference to these Agreements is regarded as “high treason”.
“Only the Transcarpathian Oblast (close to Hungary) refuses to remove from office the local representatives of the political parties concerned.
“According to NATO, Ukraine is a “great democracy” (sic).”

Posted by: bevin | Oct 25 2022 20:17 utc | 447

It seems to me that to understand Paul C Roberts one has to realise that he has a well known track record. He was part of the Reagan government that engaged in war after war after proxy war in the 1980s. And what they did in Central America, and elsewhere, was not pretty.
Posted by: bevin | Oct 25 2022 19:50 utc | 453
Exactly! he appeals to right wing conspiracists from the US tho, they hang on his every word. I wonder if such types are reborn confederates still fighting the old war for the right to own brown humans. PCR strikes me as such an amoral, entitled, pale male warmonger.

Posted by: K | Oct 25 2022 20:30 utc | 448

Because many are not sick yet is not a reason to keep spreading poison.
Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 25 2022 12:11 utc | 407
I remember during the Iraq war reading scary prognostications about mass die-offs due to radition from DU which fragments into microscopic-size particles each one of which can bring a healthy human down with cancer.
Did you – or anyone here – ever read years-later reports on the effecs of that huge months-long DU barrage?

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 20:31 utc | 449

Posted by: Jax | Oct 25 2022 11:48 utc | 401
“My view (shared by others) is that the highest chance of a dirty bomb (or other major event) happening is before the US mid-terms on Nov 8. Just 2 weeks today. I will be a lot more relaxed if on Nov 9th nothing has happened.”
Which was exactly my point. While it may not prove that such a plot never existed, the odds are it didn’t if it doesn’t occur. Especially since the Ukrainians don’t ever appear to have “cold feet” about committing an atrocity regardless of the consequences, and of course the CIA-Mi-6-neocons don’t have to worry about consequences ever since they are faceless and anonymous.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 25 2022 20:38 utc | 450

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Oct 25 2022 12:08 utc | 405
You’re assuming Statistica has them all despite US security and that Statistica is up to date, both assumptions questionable. And if you count their figures, that’s 75,000 or so, so only short by 25,000.
Struggling to find reasons why this won’t happen, are we? As I said before, focusing on problematic minutia doesn’t help analysis of the situation.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 25 2022 20:42 utc | 451

Hermit @ 451
You are confounding micro- and nano-. I am certain I lost 99% of the bar right there. Few can imagine an exponent. Fewer still would know that micro- to nano- is three orders of magnitude. Few would even know orders of magnitude. So just you and me.
You seem to know a lot of miscellaneous information. Not.sure of your purpose. The Banana Equivalent Dose is an old canard used by agents.
I believe the epidemiologic evidence is there.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 25 2022 20:46 utc | 452

Posted by: whirlX | Oct 25 2022 12:44 utc | 412
“I doubt that…” “It could be…” “I doubt that…” “I cannot imagine…” “What I expect at some point…” “It could also be…” I am sure everyone has noticed that RF didn’t push beyond the borders of annexed regions/republics.” “…if that can be achieved in talks…” “I still do not believe…”
Do you listen to yourself as you type? The degree of cognitive dissonance reflected in your post is overwhelming.
This is why I don’t engage here any more. Outside of Karlof1, there is zero reasoning going on.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 25 2022 20:48 utc | 453

@ anon2020 | Oct 25 2022 18:02 utc | 449
thanks.. it is the internet.. i might like these people if i met them in person, but communicating on a board like this leaves out some basic communication dynamics that would help to understand others better too.. i enjoy your posts..
@ bevin | Oct 25 2022 19:50 utc | 453
thanks for articulating why pcr is mostly worthless reading material when it comes to this topic..

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2022 20:50 utc | 454

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2022 15:08 utc | 427
“@ richard steven hack – good to see you back!”
I’m not back. I was impelled to post by Gonzalo Lira’s analysis of what appears to be a particularly dangerous escalation, that’s all. I’ve made my points, now back to silence while the rest of the bar continues to drink themselves stupid with the usual cognitive dissonance and nit-picking over what constitutes a “dirty bomb” – like anyone gives a shit.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 25 2022 20:51 utc | 455

Scorpion@426
It seems to me that to understand Paul C Roberts one has to realise that he has a well known track record. He was part of the Reagan government that engaged in war after war after proxy war in the 1980s.

Posted by: bevin | Oct 25 2022 19:50 utc | 453
Well, there’s a bit more to the man than that. He has considerable anti-Establishment chops which your comment ignores.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/about-paul-craig-roberts/

Monday, June 13, 2011
10 Most Influential People in the Alternative Media (2011)
Many readers will expect to see Matt Drudge or Arianna Huffington on this list. Although they both indeed have leading Internet news websites that cover some fringe stories and report on systematic injustices more so than the mainstream media, they primarily aggregate mainline news. Therefore, they are excluded from our “alternative media” label.
The criteria we’ve chosen to base these rankings of the most influential alternative media figures are the following;
people that have the courage to seek the truth no matter where the information leads them;
those with the courage to question 9/11;
those who don’t buy into the false left-right political paradigm;
those who are grounded in peace and liberty;
those with the communication skills and platform to affect real change.
Significantly, each of the people who made our list is clearly driven by unyielding passion. Despite some natural disagreements, they each provide a unique bridge to forbidden knowledge and they all deserve high praise for their efforts and commitment to inform the public. Sincerely, it is very encouraging to have so many talented voices leading the stampede for truth, liberty, justice, and peace.
With so many people doing great work in the real alternative media, we are sure that some deserving reporters will be left off the list. Although Activist Post has forged relationships with some of the people on this list, we’ve tried to remain as non-biased as possible in our observations. At the end, we’ve also included a list of those who deserve honorable mention for their tireless work and talent providing the truth.
10. Dr. Paul Craig Roberts: Paul Craig Roberts is one of the most respected columnists in the alternative media. His syndicated articles can be seen on many leading alternative news websites including Lew Rockwell, Infowars, Counterpunch, InformationClearingHouse and countless others. Roberts scores huge points in the credibility department having been the former head of policy at the Department of Treasury under Reagan, and an editor of the Wall Street Journal — among a long list of other accolades. His research is impeccable and his vision of how the world really operates is second to none. He knows why and when the global chess pieces are moving, and has the incredible talent to communicate difficult concepts to the general public. He has written several books including The Tyranny of Good Intentions and How the Economy was Lost. His many interviews can be seen on Russia Today and Prison Planet TV. Roberts is also a recent contributor to Gerald Celente’s esteemed Trends Journal. There is no one better at reporting the reality of geo-political events and the workings of the Treasury and the Federal Reserve.

But if PCR is one of those who has spent his life trying to develop and oppose hegemony, even though now he is strong voice against it as well as the war against White people in the West, then I guess you have a fair point.
Personally, I don’t take what he says as gospel. But he is a very experienced man and journalist who voices his opinions forthrightly in clearly written prose. And he has riled the ADL which is always a good sign!

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 20:57 utc | 456

I forgot: PCR’s latest book:
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/02/29/review-of-paul-craig-roberts-book-the-neoconservative-threat-to-world-order-washingtons-perilous-war-for-hegemony/
“You will rarely read a book written in a more courageous, intelligent, and blunt manner about profoundly pressing world problems than this one. Paul Craig Roberts is a phenomenon; no issue, no matter how controversial, escapes his astute analysis. He writes with a tornadic power and logic that convinces as it challenges. Driven by a passionate concern for the horrible direction of the world – especially the United States government’s responsibility for so much of its wretchedness – he is relentless in roiling the waters of ignorance and complacency in which so many Americans float.”
I think he has deserved a little better than cheap stereotyping from the peanut gallery! Even if his criticism about Putin’s go slow approach with the SMO, he is no doubt providing valuable insight into how it is interpreted by those in charge of the Hegemon side so as such is valuable. But if you can’t get past disliking a man to consider his message, I guess ad hominem is all you need to go by…

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 21:03 utc | 457

But if PCR is one of those who has spent his life trying to develop and oppose hegemony, even though now he is strong voice against it as well as the war against White people in the West, then I guess you have a fair point.
Sorry that came out wrong, should have been:
But if PCR is one of those who has spent his life trying to develop and [oppose] SUPPORT hegemony, even though now he is strong voice against it as well as the war against White people in the West, then I guess you have a fair point.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 21:06 utc | 458

Scorpion @ 458
Yes. Widely reported. Most apparent effect is large scale birth defects. Severe congenital malformations. Iraqis don’t much want to risk having children. Best evidence I know of to suspect that depopulation is a real objective of the rulers.
Radiation and its effects gets too technical very quickly. Throw in the efforts of paid confusionists and no one knows anything. The birth defects are not nephrology, it’s radiation.
It was not a months long campaign. The effects are, on any plausible timescale, permanent.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 25 2022 21:15 utc | 459

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 25 2022 21:15 utc | 468
Thank you very much. I thought the DU bombardment lasted about 3 months, no? Or are you saying they kept using that stuff once the US Army was in situ there soon after Baghdad Bob was off the air?

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 21:27 utc | 460

Re the DU in Iraq – it must be pure co-incidence that the only person I ever met in real life with a cancer stricken toddler was an Iraqi engineer from Basrah in 2012.

Posted by: Al Dossary | Oct 25 2022 21:28 utc | 461

scorpion @ spruiking for PCR
No one is buying

Posted by: K | Oct 25 2022 21:36 utc | 462

RSH @462–
Thanks for your complement, but today I’m not looking at Ukraine. Instead, I’m looking at the numerous reasons why Ukraine is happening, and those roots are very deep. Most of my commentary is on the Week in Review thread, which began with China for excellent reasons then moved to the ever-important annual Valdai Club Meeting and its discussions. Just reviewing the submitted papers is time consuming yet beneficial for they stimulate thinking. The main product, “A World Without Superpowers”, which I consider a must read as these two paragraphs make clear:
“Let’s make it clear once again: the status of a superpower, as we understand it, is conferred only upon a state with which a significant number of other countries associate their ability to overcome challenges and survive in a chaotic international environment. In a sense, it is an imperial world order, but the authority is exercised through a set of tools that make subordinating to the centre a preferred choice as opposed to primitive coercion, which makes such subordination practically the only available option.
“Russia is a case in point. After it lost its own (Soviet) system-building role in 1991, its relations with the West have been based on the belief that Russia’s interest in participating in a Western-centric international system is much more important than Moscow’s interests in ensuring its own security. Everyone got used to this circumstance and began to take it for granted, especially in the West. Hence, the almost revolutionary nature of the events that unfolded in 2022, when Russia became the first major power which, guided by its own ideas of security and fairness, chose to discard the benefits of “global peace” created by the only superpower (the United States). Those benefits were seen by the Kremlin as much too risky, since political and economic integration into the system of collective interdependence imposes excessive restrictions on any particular state’s freedom of action.”
As we know, those events of 2022 were simmering for eight years and even longer depending on the variables chosen for analysis. But the overall tenor is correct. Most important was the seemingly sudden lawless behavior of the Outlaw US Empire, which in actuality was merely confirmation of its longstanding lawless nature, long ignored to the detriment of humanity. Yes, it’s important to know who upset the applecart and why, but concern is now focusing on what will be the endgame, with this report’s title suggesting one possibility. The report also examines several background factors that rarely if ever enter into discussion here. Of course, the report’s imperfect, and one wonders if some of the glaring rhetorical problems are the result of mistranslation. IMO, it’s important when a disagreement arises with the view expressed by the report to ask why, on what grounds, do you disagree–and you’ll certainly disagree several times.
If the above sounds like an academic exercise, it should as prior knowledge and critical reading are required to form an analysis and/or appraisal. And yes, to do all that properly requires time and effort, which are difficult when one must work at a job and at home.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 25 2022 21:43 utc | 463

No one is buying
Posted by: K | Oct 25 2022 21:36 utc | 471
Well, none of you actually stated why you feel he is so bad, just that he is a terrible racist (your comment) person.
That’s not voicing criticism but prejudice.
Your bad!
I would much prefer a reason why you and James and bevin think he’s so terrible. If you look at his book from 2015 about all the terrible things the neocons were doing in the world but more specifically in Ukraine which might bring on world war – a thesis which now seems prescient – I have no idea why you people are so down on him.
I also don’t care since clearly – twice now – you don’t care to express an interesting opinion one way or another just shallow insult. So be it.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 21:50 utc | 464

To end this sidebar conversation – though it is germane to Ukraine – I picked an essay from PCR’s 2015 collection published in his book ‘the neoconservative threat to world order.’

PENTAGON BEATS THE DRUMS OF WAR
July 10, 2015
The fabrication of “the Russian security threat” has moved into high gear. At his confirmation hearing on July 9 as the nominee as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Joseph Dunford told the US Senate that Russia presents an “alarming” threat to US national security. The previous day Air Force Secretary Deborah James declared “Russia to be the biggest threat.”
The “alarming” and “worrisome” Russian behavior evoked by these two representatives of the military-security complex is part of the hoax created in order to keep the massive US military/security complex funded. To support the armaments corporations that supply political campaign donations and high-paying jobs for retired generals and pentagon officials as consultants and lobbyists, Washington needs a foe more powerful than a few Muslim terrorists.
The fact that “the Russian threat” is a hoax does not mean that a real threat is not present. Washington’s demonization of Russia is so intense and so outrageous in its audacious lies that the groundwork is being laid for a military confrontation. General Dunford and Secretary James might be directing their rhetoric at the 24 NATO countries that have not met Washington’s call to increase their arms purchases to 2% of GDP, but the irresponsible accusations have destroyed trust among the largest nuclear-armed powers. Today neither the Russian nor Chinese governments trust Washington. Indeed, by words and deeds Washington has forced Russia and China to build up their strategic forces in expectation of an American attack.
The situation is more dangerous than the risks associated with marketing a “threat” in order to fund the military-security complex. The neoconservatives have convinced the politicians and the military that countries with independent foreign policies are threats because of their sovereignty. The just-released “National Military Strategy of the United States of America 2015”151 defines countries that have independent foreign policies as “revisionist states” that fail to act “in accordance with international norms.” International norms are decided by Washington. A failure to act in accordance with international norms means to act independently of Washington’s will. Countries who act this way are defined as national security threats. The Pentagon’s report defines the foremost threats as Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea.
Russia is particularly singled out. Washington’s view toward Russia is the same as Cato the Elder’s view toward Carthage. Cato the Elder finished his every speech on any subject in the Roman Senate with the statement: “Carthage must be destroyed.” Carthage was a check on Roman unilateralism just as Russia is a check on Washington’s unilateralism.
The Pentagon report tells us that unless Russia becomes compliant with US hegemony and becomes a vassal like Europe, Canada, Australia, and Japan, war with Russia is our future.
By resurrecting distrust leading to conflict between nuclear powers, neoconservatives with their ideology of American supremacy have become the greatest threat to world order and to life itself.

Spot on. Rings true today albeit written 7 years ago. Not many writers evidence that sort of no-nonsense prescience. Even if he did work in the Treasury Dept in Reagan’s govt in the 1980s!
I don’t understand why people find him so beyond the pale – unless it’s his clear dislike of the neocons. Mayhap some here are secret 5th column supporters! In any case, he was way ahead of most of the world commentariat back in 2015 and he might just be way ahead of most of them again. Although as I said in my opening post about this, I don’t necessarily agree with him even though I definitely respect his voice. I go to get his latest every day – and luckily he is prolific – along with coming here and also my favorite aggregator sitrepworld.info.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 22:28 utc | 465

Scorpion 469
What I am saying is uranium is slow decay. Real slow decay. When it just burned and is obviously floating in the air a huge dose could happen quickly. And then it is just there. In dirt and dust and everywhere. And doing what it does for milllenia.
The other part is that teratogenic effects are forever. Suppose a person of child bearing years gets a dose. And it is not that bad. Might get cancer when they are 90 but so what, lots get cancer past 90. But there is a defect in the sperm or egg. That defect might not even show in the first generation of kids. It is there. Gets passed on to every following generation. Of course if they continue to live in the affected zone more defects. And the mate likely has a defect too. And they will accumulate.
On the PCR question. I have enjoyed him too. Just gotta recognize who and what he is and what the limits are. Same with Gonzalo. Him I enjoy a lot. And cannot put out of my mind that he is a super-privileged member of a ruling class family. In both cases these authors are talking to us when we would never be part of their social circle, never be able to share the life they have known. PCR I think I could like as a person although it would be a matter of constantly making allowances. Gonzalo I’d rather not be in same room. But I can listen to him. He has a perspective I do not.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 25 2022 22:36 utc | 466

whirlX | Oct 25 2022 18:01 utc | 448
I agree 100k US forces across NATO are not “enough” for ? Whatever?
For ?what? ….. (the stated purpose is to “deter” Russia/ to “reassure allies”, to provide a “show of force” and “send a message” to Russia.
100k troops is probably “enough” for a mission defined in those terms.
Above in the thread someone made the factual claim there are 100k US troops stationed in Europe….. and someone disputed (ridiculed) this.
So I provided two sources ….. NATO and the US …. That state….there’s 100k troops in Europe.
Since Feb we’ve had new posters confidently making all sorts of ignorant claims, because they think this kicked off with the “special military operation”.
And we have long term posters who know the background… to 2014, and long prior even to that. Soon the new posters learn with alarm they are woefully ignorant about….so much.
And long term posters are here to both learn and share. The resources brought to the bar are phenomenal.
Some people acknowledge this blog is now their primary source for “news”….
The blog is fantastically informative…. But wider reading is essential – if someone doesn’t want to make themselves ridiculous by disputing indisputable facts.
How those “facts” can be interpreted…. Well that’s what the bar excels at ….
Which is where most here have misunderstood my comments about the 101st airborne.
My concern is *not* the 4,700 or their capability or “interoperability” with the other 100k stationed in NATO.
My concern is the very (imho) significant change in rhetoric.
This is the first time it’s been stated a deployment is a “combat” role.
It’s the first time it’s been stated this combat unit is tasked with entering Ukraine directly.
It’s the first time a US combat unit has been tasked with engaging in direct conflict with Russia in Ukraine…..
The replies have mostly been “meh, Russia will destroy them”.
Yes.
And then? Will the belligerent US think: “oops, ok, we fucked around, we found out”.
Or… “US troops have been killed…. We retaliate and escalate” ?.
IMO the 101st are there to provoke an engagement… and provide a casus belli …
What no one seems concerned to note with the combat deployment of the 101st is why the change in rhetoric is something to be alarmed about.
Is the US about to enter yet another war bypassing Congress?
Surely US citizens might debate whether they want to directly combat Russia… in Ukraine… or anywhere?
So far, the PR team for the 101st airborne is being “tasked” with making a monumental change in US military rhetoric (and response).
I’m at the @bar saying WTF????

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 25 2022 22:43 utc | 467

I also don’t care since clearly – twice now – you don’t care to express an interesting opinion one way or another just shallow insult. So be it.
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 21:50 utc | 473
I’ve read much of PCR going back years and I was always left with the impression that his words and motives don’t match. His history as Bevin cites, backs up this feeling.
Assuming that many here have not given PCR a chance is presumptuous. People here are incredibly widely read since long before you or I came here. PCR has been bullshitting for a very long time.
I assure you i had an open mind to PCR way back when I read everything no matter what political affiliation but his subtext reeks of American exceptionalism and he is in word and deeds a warmonger.
No matter his nicey nicey speech it always ends up with “Putin should act ie kill more people NOW”. Apart from his love of military action, I am revolted by his superior attitude thinking he knows better than the President of Russia what is best for Russia. If Putin was Biden that might be reasonable but PCR seems to have not noticed that he isn’t.
What a silly self important man!

Posted by: K | Oct 25 2022 22:53 utc | 468

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 25 2022 22:36 utc | 475
Thanks for your reply. I like your take on Lira and PCR. Lira is definitely a great speaker but there’s a but. I like PCR’s writing. He voices strong opinions in clear language. Can’t ask for more.
I remember reading Indian reports on the bombing campaign and projections about uranium poisoning in the population and being horrified. I had never trusted any national government since teenage years but that campaign was the first time I felt truly outraged and saddened by the choices they made and the millions of people they harmed even though have never read good reports on the aftermath.
I hope Russia-China axis can succeed in delivering on their multi-polar post-military-conquest world order. Can’t happen soon enough – though am not sure it will turn out as many now imagine. Meanwhile 3-400,000 got killed or maimed the past few months in Ukraine so we’ve a long way to go. Where PCR was right in his latest piece, I think, is that RF is letting the West have the initiative. That’s why so many have died this year. Russia could have forestalled all this years ago but for whatever reason chose not to. Hopefully it turns out to be a good reason but still: 3-400,000 lives ruined, not to mention all those displaced. There are no winners in war.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 23:00 utc | 469

@Scorpion to 458
There have been numerous reports on the horrific consequences of using DU. However, mainly in anti-government media, which did not get much attention. I still see countless photos of malformed Iraqi children in front of me. It was a gallery of horror that you never forget. There were children with two heads or four arms and other gruesome mutilations. As if the gates of hell had opened.
Not only the Iraqis were and are affected by the consequences. Also the US soldiers who were exposed to the deadly dust. Their children were also disfigured. But because there are better possibilities of early detection in the USA, they were killed already in the womb. Often the men who were deployed to Iraq developed testicular cancer or leukemia. They fought in vain for compensation and put an end to their agony with a firearm. More veterans died from suicide and cancer back home than from combat in Iraq.
A German documentary filmmaker who worked for state television made a film about the subject. Since then, he has received no more commissions. The dying of the contaminated people and their children is a very quiet and unnoticed death in every respect.
https://youtu.be/-HztabrfIO4
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Posted by: Uwe | Oct 25 2022 23:34 utc | 470

@430 “…a TV on the wall of the bar blaring CNN 24X7.” No, owners have preferred Fox for decades. It’s been Fox blaring 24/7, not CNN and claiming CNN is straight-up lying. The preference for lying to indulge ludicrous prejudices and petty malice is SOP here.
Paul Craig Roberts is very close to being an open anti-Semite, and is by himself one of the reasons I learned to despise Counterpunch. Apparently it got so blatant that even St. Clair was embarrassed to pursue his ludicrous and repulsive unite with the Right to save the planet (but not necessarily the people) program. Cockburn was the poor man’s Hitchens but St. Clair is just a scammer. As to documenting Roberts’ nauseating views, the demand that I should have kept notes all those years would be stupid were it sincerely meant.
The numbers for the Ukraine war don’t add up, and still don’t. Putin has no endgame in Ukraine, no more than he does in Syria. He bungled it in 2014 because he’s a right-wing capitalist dipshit—but more sober than Yeltsin!—who let the fascists arm themselves for eight years. He didn’t want to oppose fascists, because they’re not against his shabby principles. (Explain why he sat on his hands rather than support the legally elected President?) If there’s any sanity to Putin’s war, it’s lies in his vain effort to force negotiation.
A note on military strategy: It is a commonplace of US imperialist warmongering that the goal of battles is to defeat the enemy army and territory doesn’t matter. The problem is, territory is not just lines and colored blobs and names on maps but where the material part of political will and war economy are located. The emphasis on counterforce is a petty bourgeois pipe dream of push-button murder. The grotesque part is that the supposed example of how you fight the enemy army and don’t care about mere territory is contradicted by the Civil War experience that is usually cited. There’s a reason why Joseph Johnston who actually fought as if keeping the army intact and forgetting about territory is not highly regarded. And why George Thomas, who actually destroyed an army in front of Nashville is not, even as Sherman won undying fame for *not* defeating any Confederate armies in Georgia and “merely” laid waste to Confederate lands. Putin is far more apt to make the first bad deal he can, because Putin doesn’t want to fight, never did.
And no, BRICS where fascists like Bolsonaro and Modi are supposedly going to make common cause with rotten bourgeois democrats in South Africa and Chinese socialists are not going to band together to save him. A team of horses pulling in opposite directions pulls no weight at all.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 25 2022 23:54 utc | 471

K | Oct 25 2022 22:53 utc | 477
Agree re PCR. (And others)
There’s so many ex CIA ex Military ex govt that just don’t have the intel we have here…
I have a strange (to others in my circle) obsession to know whats “going on”
I don’t have time to waste with PCR or “commentators” such as Lira,… or now with Saker or Martyanov or even much with the Duran duo…. They don’t know what’s going on either…. I was a Martyanov disciple right up until March, when it was obvious that Russia didn’t have anywhere near the military capability he’d convinced me was hiding in their cupboard.
Increasingly I’m getting my info from twitter.
[[pause while @bar laughs uproariously]]
For example twitter told me Japanese PM Kishida visited Perth.
Why?
A day later Twitter told me Japan and Australia signed “security agreement to share intelligence and assist each other” [whatever that actually involves].
Twitter and YouTube showed me 8 plane loads of US troops flew into Poland since Saturday… [ @bar = chorus…”it’s just a rotation”…. Is it? How do you know?]
Right now twitter is telling me the government airline from Guinea-Bissau is returning from Moscow…. And the government airline from South Africa is enroute from Belgrade to Moscow.
Later twitter might tell me why….
I’m not getting this raw information anywhere else.
I’m finding my time more profitably spent with analysts like Brian Berletic than with commentators.
And finding jigsaw pieces in raw data myself, and then attempting to assemble a picture…
And at the moment I’m enjoying Mike @ iEarlgrey because I like his humour, I like his balanced-but-not really review of headlines, _ and he’s quit his job to personally assemble and deliver humanitarian aid to Donbas, because he couldn’t abide sitting on his arse in St Petersburg any longer.
Is he foolish?
Yes. But The Fool is the most prized card in the Major Arcana, …right?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 0:17 utc | 472

@ Melaleuca | Oct 25 2022 22:43 utc | 476 with the concern about rhetoric surrounding the 101st airborne near Ukraine.
IMO, it represents more words that don’t/won’t necessarily translate into action. I am reading that you think this change of characterization to combat role will incite Americans to rise up and protest the war in which many Americans have been actively participating behind the scenes already…..My fellow Americans are, for the most part, clueless about the bigger world that is standing up to their owners.
I am glad that Russia and China are fighting this civilization war and hope that the results will be positive for those lost folks in my country.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 26 2022 0:26 utc | 473

A German documentary filmmaker who worked for state television made a film about the subject. Since then, he has received no more commissions. The dying of the contaminated people and their children is a very quiet and unnoticed death in every respect.
https://youtu.be/-HztabrfIO4
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Posted by: Uwe | Oct 25 2022 23:34 utc | 479
Thank you. I shall steel myself beforehand but will watch.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 26 2022 0:49 utc | 474

@Posted by: Et Tu | Oct 25 2022 9:36 utc | 368
Absolutely frightening
http://johnhelmer.net/the-us-signals-readiness-to-launch-nuclear-strike-against-russia/

Posted by: daffyDuct | Oct 26 2022 0:50 utc | 475

To the bar re PCR:
I just noticed in the wikipedia page on him that I had open for an earlier comment and was about to close that he is a known ‘anti-semite.’ Though not surprised to read this I wasn’t aware since have only been reading him the past few years when there is a crisis period (like now) and I follow the news more than usual.
Anyway, now I understand why some can’t stand him and also why they didn’t say why. Taboo!!

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 26 2022 0:54 utc | 476

Yes. But The Fool is the most prized card in the Major Arcana, …right?
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 0:17 utc | 481
LOL totally re the Fool Card. Wise people are aways considered crazy or have to act crazy to survive in our warped reality.
I have a similar MO to you as far as research goes, i can’t waste time listening to people who rehash what i can read for myself. But I do appreciate intelligent commentary and sincere journalism, so I also watch people like Brian and Mike because they are down to earth and straight up (far as I can tell). I don’t watch ll their stuff tho, not enough time.
I don’t know about Russia’s military, but I trust them. If Putin didn’t hit hard in 2014 I would say it was because he couldn’t, the ducks were not in a row. They would have weighed up the consequences I think.
But I am no expert this is just my own response to watching their words and actions for the last 8 years. No matter if they are well prepared a crazy Empire is something only the most desperate hero would want to tangle with. I think the whole thing should not have come to forcing Russia into this impossible position, but we in the west have succumbed to consumer culture and all the evils that make it possible. So we turn a blind eye until we get reality forced on us.
Personally I feel powerless except on a very small scale of not supporting the capitalist consumer model as much as possible. So coming here is all about finding some like minded people who remind me that i’m not crazy but definitely a fool.
Thanks for your reply 🙂

Posted by: K | Oct 26 2022 0:55 utc | 477

K | Oct 26 2022 0:55 utc | 486
Thanks for *your* reply.
Agree 100% with everything you just wrote….
So. There’s at least two of us “likeminded” here…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 1:06 utc | 478

What Twitter just told me:
2 x SOCOM MC-130J Commando II planes in skies over Albania.
So? Whatza socom mc-130j. ?
Lemma juz put that in my search engine….
Well wadya know:
How SOCOM plans to use the MC-130J in a war with Russia or China

October 28, 2021
“The MC-130J Commando II is a special missions aircraft based on the legendary C-130 Hercules, but heavily modified for the rigors of clandestine special operations missions. The Commando II, which first entered service in 2012, has proven its mettle throughout eight subsequent years of covert combat operations…………
“…with America’s recent re-emphasis on Great Power Competition, the U.S. military is looking to readjust its platforms and doctrine for a potential war with nation-level opponents out of Beijing or Moscow.
The past twenty years of war in the Middle East produced many valuable lessons, but now they need to be adjusted to new realities and a completely different operational environment.
By taking a closer look at some recent MC-130J training operations, a picture of how this heavy-payload (but quite secretive) powerhouse plans to stay relevant begins to emerge. …………
https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/how-socom-plans-to-use-the-mc-130j-in-a-war-with-russia-or-china/
So, Twitter, what’s a “special missions aircraft” doing over Albania today?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 1:07 utc | 479

Anyway, now I understand why some can’t stand him and also why they didn’t say why. Taboo!!
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 26 2022 0:54 utc | 485
Trying to have the last word is not working in your favour today
I had no idea he is anti semite, I just thought he was typical know all American arsehole.
But gosh he hates Jews too? I rest my case LOL

Posted by: K | Oct 26 2022 1:19 utc | 480

@ Scorpion | Oct 25 2022 21:50 utc | 473
i gave a bit of a response @ 427 but maybe you missed it..
i have read pcr before… i just thought it was kind of funny and ironic a poster who b deletes post of – marko – post is gone now) was supportive of pcr…
my thing on him and especially with the diatribe you shared is that he is arrogant and thinks he knows the best way russia ought to be acting here and how he obviously knows best… i just don’t see it the same way as him… i also agree with @ bevin and @ K | Oct 25 2022 22:53 utc | 477…. i just don’t find what you’ve shared lately from him has any value whatsoever…. but continue to post whatever you feel like… yes, i said it is shit and don’t post that shit… sometimes i say exactly what is on my mind… feel free to ignore..

Posted by: james | Oct 26 2022 1:20 utc | 481

oh and i don’t give a shit if he is or isn’t anti-semite… seems like you are jumping to a lot of erroneous conclusions scorpion..

Posted by: james | Oct 26 2022 1:21 utc | 482

john helmer wrote a fairly disturbing article yesterday on a topic that seems of interest at the moment –
“THE US SIGNALS READINESS TO LAUNCH NUCLEAR STRIKE AGAINST RUSSIA”

Posted by: james | Oct 26 2022 1:32 utc | 483

Twitter says Nancy Pelosi flew out of Croatia 15 hours ago.
There was a post here on Pelosi and the Crimea Platform meeting, but it got swamped by the technicals of a dirty bomb… details that excite the minds of those with expertise v those confidently authoritative but ignorant …… I have no way to assess….. and like RSH …. am not invested in that debate. A zombified gullible audience that can accept Russia bombing its own …pipelines, bridges, ZapNPP, and populace, will also easily accept Russia used a “dirty” bomb…
There’s not much out yet about the outcome of the Crimea Platform. But remember… it was the Munich Security Conference of February that finally lit the fuse under Putin’s arse… and kicked off the SMO….
These conferences allow all sorts of intel to be passed along at drinkies and in the corridors.
I’m convinced it was the July New York meeting of the IAEA (10th annual review of the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty) where the plot to have IAEA inspectors visit ZapNPP (and possibly be taken hostage) was brewed….
[no hostages were taken, = so no plot….OK.] [lol]
First Parliamentary Summit of the International Crimea Platform
Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi will represent the United States in Zagreb, Croatia at the First Parliamentary Summit of the International Crimea Platform.
Ukraine established the International Crimea Platform in 2021 with the goal of restoring Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.
The inaugural Parliamentary Summit, which will be held on October 25th, will focus on Russia’s aggression against Ukraine, including the illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014 and the ongoing, unjustified invasion that began in February 2022.
Speaker Pelosi will engage in bilateral meetings with high-level Croatian and Ukrainian officials.
https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/102322-1

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 1:33 utc | 484

Maybe I am jumping to conclusions. If it is not the antisemitic angle then I have no idea why you have such strong feelings against him but it really doesn’t matter. Well, I read what you wrote but cannot understand the reaction. It’s just an opinion, albeit one more informed by life experience than anybody here for example. I think if you and K had voiced WHY you had such a reaction rather than just stating ‘he’s shit’ ‘he’s racist’ or ‘he’s an old white guy’ or whatever I wouldn’t have come back, but I find such things too opaque I guess. Then when I saw the reference in wikipedia I thought ‘oh, that’s what it’s about.’ Seems that was wrong too.
I find his stuff very helpful. Others don’t. I share him here because most commenters are extremely pro-Russia – which is fine – but rarely share critical commentary. PCR is unusual because he has long been criticized for being a Putin lover but also offers constructive criticism and as such I thought it would be welcome. Clearly not. You dislike him so much you and several others feel compelled to say so without saying why. I find it strange, but to each his own.
FINIS.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 26 2022 1:33 utc | 485

by: psychohistorian | Oct 26 2022 0:26 utc | 482
Thanks for reply…. But….
No. I don’t think the stupefied population of the U$, Oz, 5 eyes, the west… will “rise up and protest the war”
I was one of 10 million who marched globally to protest Iraq…. And look how effective that was…..
No. I have no expectations for the i-zombies, but I had thought the bar would see the significance… and the inherent escalation, that this change in rhetoric signalled.
Most here just wanted to point out the ineffectiveness of the 101st, or the impotence of 4,700 troops….
Which wasn’t the point at all.
Nowhere in the past century (since the US invasion of White Russia) has the U$ deployed a combat unit tasked with direct military conflict with Russia.
I (simply and naively) think it should be the purview of more than a gungho PR team to so drastically alter U$ military doctrine…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 1:50 utc | 486

@ Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 1:50 utc | 495 who wrote

I (simply and naively) think it should be the purview of more than a gungho PR team to so drastically alter U$ military doctrine…

I agree and thanks for making a point of it. There are just so many examples of outright aggression being shown that I am waiting for what they do, not what they say.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 26 2022 2:01 utc | 487

@ Scorpion | Oct 26 2022 1:33 utc | 494
i am sorry if the word shit offends you… as i said @ 428 – i don’t find him believable.. it sounds like you’d like me to elaborate, but i don’t feel the need to do so.. if you like what he has to say – fine… it wasn’t meant as a personal attack on you and i am sorry if you took it that way… sometimes my position is based on a collection of observations which i don’t feel the need to explain in detail either… we all formulate viewpoints for a variety of reasons.. feel free to address me directly or not.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Oct 26 2022 2:33 utc | 488

And for those who are interested in the nuclear signature debate….
Here’s a twitter thread:
“Nuclear forensics: it’s a thing and nobody is quite sure of USA’s capabilities (including USA) and they’re generally (IMO) presumed to be at least moderately good to scary.”
https://twitter.com/NuclearAnthro/status/1585023199607418880

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 2:34 utc | 489

I think the speculation that the 101st Airborne division would be sent to Odessa is a bit misguided.
The 101st Airborne is actually a helicopter born “air assault” Corps, despite their name of “airborne” which was a leftover honor from World War II.
The primary mission for which this unit trains is to create and secure a bridgehead to allow a larger mechanized force to cross into and reach the front.
NATO would undoubtedly like to deny Russia access to Odessa and Transnistria, which are the fairly obvious common sense objectives of the newly transformed Russian operation to liberate and protect the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine.
However, Odessa is difficult to access from the West or South where the closest NATO countries are. The supply routes from Poland and Romania are on the left bank of the Dneister and don’t have any major river crossings. But their length makes them vulnerable to Russian air power.
The shorter routes from Romania from the South or from the West through Moldova both must cross the Dneister River. The city of Tiraspol in Transnistria is a Russian stronghold that controls the best paved crossings of the Dneister. Tiraspol also undoubtedly has at least an S-300 battery. This it effectively controls the Western and Southern approaches to Odessa.
The mission of the 101st is probably to seize the bridgehead in Tiraspol or the one south of Odessa. Those being taken, a larger NATO mechanized force could move into Ukrainian-controlled Odessa.
In 1999 the 29th Infantry Division, also an air assault light infantry division, was sent to guard the bridge outside Kosovo, for similar reasons.
I still have a hard time believing that NATO has the balls to roll a mechanized infantry division into Ukraine, however.
That being said, the purpose of a false flag dirty bomb would be to convince the West, if not the world, that Russia used a tactical nuke in Ukraine. That provocation must have a goal in mind. The goal would be either sending in a NATO convention force to stop the Russian advance, or more daringly, a first strike nuclear attack on Russia, launched within minutes or hours of the false flag bomb detonation.

Posted by: Rhinoskerous | Oct 26 2022 3:18 utc | 490

Russia notified the U.S. that it has begun its annual nuclear drills, which include the launch of missiles. This comes as NATO is conducting its own military drills, claiming its best weapon is deterrence.
https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1585043957595209730?cxt=HHwWhIC83ZvFmv8rAAAA
Russian strategic nuclear forces exercise appears to be scheduled for this week. Probably annual exercise Grom with ICBM, SLBM, bomber launches. Potentially also some non-strategic nuclear force activities.
https://twitter.com/nukestrat/status/1584839362599976960?cxt=HHwWgICgnZzAvf4rAAAA
Ffrom October 26 to 29, the exercises of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation will be held. NOTAM’s were issued for ICBM launches from Plesetsk and SLBMs from the coast of the Kola Peninsula to the Kura missile range.
2/. Cruise missiles are expected to be launched in the area from Amderma airfield to Pemboy.
NOTAM’s: X0312/22, X0313/22, X0314/22, P8604/22, P8804/22, X0226/22, Z7365/22
https://twitter.com/PararamTadam/status/1584828679921668096
***** Coinciding with NATO nuke exercise Steadfast Noon.
NATO & Russia both about to hold nuclear exercises. These war games happen every year but now inherently dangerous says @nukestrat timing & rhetoric increase perception of threats & can lock the 2 sides into escalating nuclear posturing:
>Cue Jack Sparrow gif: What could possibly go wrong?
————————
Russia’s ongoing attacks on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure have been so methodical and destructive that Ukrainian and Western officials say they are being directed by electricity specialists who know which targets will inflict maximum pain on the grid.
https://twitter.com/ikhurshudyan/status/1584795020124725249
___________
Have an opinion on the Ukrainian Russian conflict….. you’re doing it wrong and this guy is here to lecture you :
“”Here are some things you might think it’s perfectly fine and noble to do in your communications about the war in Ukraine, and here’s why you shouldn’t do them. A few off the top of my head.
2x You should not say “we need diplomacy to avoid nuclear war.”
Why? Because Putin is the only one making nuclear threats, and he’s doing it to to scare you into accepting concessions to Ukrainian sovereignty and providing legitimacy for his conquests.
5/x you should not Putin’s invasion of Ukraine to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The CMC was bilateral brinksmanship over intermediate-range nuclear posture. Making that comparison implies that both sides are at fault and have something to give, which is not the case.
6/x you should not use the term “forever war” to describe US support for Ukraine. That puts our support for Ukraine in the same category as our counterproductive and wrongheaded occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. There is simply no comparison between the two, so don’t.
Somehow this guys sanctimonious snarky sermon has me wanting to
~ call to avoid nuclear escalation
~ make comparisons to the Cuban brinkmanship of the 60s
~ think of U$ policy and interference in Ukraine as more failed policy such as Vietnam + Afghanistan (to name 2/100+)
If you enjoy being lectured on “correct” opinions:
https://twitter.com/DanteAtkins/status/1584763881725038593

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 3:22 utc | 491

The main problem with the scenario I laid out above is that NATO would be foolish to send in a mechanized corps to try to eject Russia from Ukraine.
But given the non stop lies from Ukrainian and Western intelligence agencies that the Russian invasion has failed, it is possible that they believe their own BS enough to try it.
But to do that we would be getting reports of NATO troop build up in Romania, not just Poland. It will take a lot more than the 101st Airborne to enter and fortify Odessa. I haven’t seen evidence of such a move being prepared yet.

Posted by: Rhinoskerous | Oct 26 2022 3:35 utc | 492

Twitter:: https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2022/10/21/18th-airborne-corps-unit-returns-after-rapid-response-deployment/
Allocating a point to Team “it’s just a rotation” .
At least one lot of troops flown into / out of Poland Saturday were rotating.:
Saturday, Oct 22
18th Airborne Corps’ unit returns after rapid response deployment
About 150 soldiers arrived back at Fort Bragg on Tuesday night after an eight-month deployment in Europe.
The soldiers, who are part of the 3rd Battalion, 321st Field Artillery Regiment, rapidly deployed to Germany on Feb. 28 in support of the 18th Airborne Corps and the immediate response force’s mission to bolster NATOS’s eastern flank and support NATO in deterring Russian aggression after Russian invaded Ukraine.
The regiment transferred responsibilities to the 1st Battalion, 14th Field Artillery Regiment from Fort Sill, Oklahoma, on Saturday.
Another 150 soldiers with the Fort Bragg-based battalion will also return back this week.
In February, Pentagon officials announced that about 4,700 paratroopers with the 82nd Airborne Division would go to Poland in wake of Russia’s Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, while more than 200 soldiers with the 18th Airborne Corps and its supporting units would go to Germany.
The 82nd Airborne paratroopers returned to Fort Bragg in July, while the 18th Airborne Corps’ headquarters has remained in Germany since February.
Maj. Gabe Dearman, the battalion operations officer for the regiment, said—-. ”We just knew we were going over there to
reinforce and
assure our allies and partner forces and
deter further Russian aggression”.……

Note
The
Rhetoric.
There’s nothing about being a “combat” unit, tasked with entering Ukraine and directly engaging Russia…. (Which is the rhetoric from 101st this week)…..

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 4:24 utc | 493

Went a bit feral with the bold there. Apologies…
Html Tags 🙄

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 6:37 utc | 494

re Melaleuca | Oct 26 2022 3:22 utc | 500
If you enjoy being lectured on “correct” opinions:
https://twitter.com/DanteAtkins/status/1584763881725038593
this kind of guy is a mad man, in fact he’s something worse: a warmongering charlatan hiding behind a thin facade of rationality. Sound familiar with our Political and Media Elite leadership?
just one point, by his logic the West should drop any and all diplomacy so we can escalate and have a nuclear war. that’s what he’s actually saying
and by the way, Caitlan Johnstone has an excellent recent piece, series of responses to this kind of insanity and sociopathology, here:
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2022/10/18/the-profoundly-stupid-narrative-that-nuclear-brinkmanship-is-safety-and-de-escalation-is-danger/
The Profoundly Stupid Narrative That Nuclear Brinkmanship Is Safety And De-Escalation Is Danger
“Of all the face-meltingly stupid narratives that have been circulated about the US proxy war in Ukraine, the dumbest so far has got to be the increasingly common claim that aggressively escalating nuclear brinkmanship is safety and de-escalation is danger.
We see a prime example of this self-evidently idiotic narrative in a new Business Insider article titled “Putin’s nuclear threats are pushing people like Trump and Elon Musk to press for a Ukraine peace deal. A nuclear expert warns that’s ‘dangerous.’”…..
Like other empire apologists currently pushing the ridiculous “de-escalation actually causes escalation” line, Davis and Podvig argue as though nuclear weapons just showed up on the scene a few days ago, as if there haven’t been generations of western policies toward Moscow which have indeed involved backing down and making compromises at times because doing so was seen as preferable to risking a nuclear attack….”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 26 2022 7:13 utc | 495

No one is buying
Posted by: K | Oct 25 2022 21:36 utc | 471
Speak for yourself. Always a good policy. Even if you were elected by somebody.

Posted by: RB | Oct 26 2022 8:39 utc | 496

PCR is all about protecting the “legacy” of the Raygun Adminstration he was once a part of. He was not a competent military person then, and he is not one now. I think it is nice of Unz to give him a place to express himself, and of Putin to give him a place to stay, but I never pay any attention to his rants. He tends to sound just like Bolton but on the other side.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 26 2022 10:06 utc | 497

Relatively big attack was in the Kupyansk area.
⚡️The Russian Defense Ministry reported on repelling a strong enemy attack in the Kupyansk area.
Up to 500 people attacked our positions .There were many foreign mercenaries (yesterday there was information that there were up to 100-150 Poles who were hastily transferred to this area from Krasny Liman). They came under fire from our artillery, suffered significant losses in killed and wounded, and also lost several tanks, armored combat vehicles and pickups.
After yesterday’s unsuccessful attacks, Ukrainian sources began to say that the “slowdown in operations” was caused by the deteriorating weather.
Here it is worth noting that the enemy’s offensive on Svatovo and Kremennaya was stopped not by the weather, but by the resistance of our troops, which gradually extinguish the inertia of the enemy’s offensive and inflict heavy losses on him.
I remind you that according to Ukrainian statements, they planned to take Svatovo on October 17th.

-Slavyangrad

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 26 2022 10:18 utc | 498

⚡️ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
(26 October 2022)
◽️The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
◽️In the Kupyansk direction, the enemy with the forces of a battalion tactical group and a company of foreign mercenaries, totaling up to 500 people, launched 5 consecutive attacks on the positions of Russian troops on a narrow front in the direction of the settlement of Kuzemovka (Lugansk People’s Republic). All the enemy attacks have been repelled. The enemy was driven back to the initial positions by Russia’s troops, artillery fire, army and ground-attack aviation, and heavy flamethrower systems. More than 160 militants, 5 tanks, 9 armoured fighting vehicles, and 10 pickup trucks have been neutralised.
◽️In the Krasny Liman direction, Russia’s troops eliminated over 70 Ukraine’s personnel, 2 tanks, 5 infantry fighting vehicles, an armoured personnel carrier, and 5 pickup trucks.
◽️In the Nikolayev–Krivoy Rog direction, the enemy, with up to 2 battalion tactical groups, failed attempts to attack in the directions of Ishchenka, Bruskinskoye, Pyatikhatki, and Koshara (Kherson region). The defeat resulted in destroying up to 125 Ukrainian servicemen, seven armoured fighting vehicles, and 13 vehicles.
✈️ Operational-tactical and Army Aviation, missile troops and artillery annihilated 2 command posts in Artemovsk (Donetsk People’s Republic) and Konstantinovka (Zaporozhye region) as well as 59 artillery units in firing positions, manpower, and military hardware in 177 areas.
💥 A signal node of a Ukrainian group of troops has been destroyed near Prikolotnoye (Kharkov region). Close to Dnepropetrovsk, an oil terminal was destroyed, from which diesel fuel was supplied to the troops in Donbas.
💥 Russia’s air defence systems shot down 10 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles over the settlements of Egorovka, Zeleny Gai, Pavlovka, Nikolskoye, Zavitne Bazhannya, Kirillovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Poltava (Lugansk People’s Republic), Novaya Tarasovka (Kharkov region) and Novaya Kamenka (Kherson region).
◽️Moreover, 13 shells of the U.S. HIMARS MLRS were shot down over the settlements of Burgunka, Olgovka, Nikolayevka, Novaya Kakhovka, Ponyatovka, Nikolskoye (Kherson region) and Novonikolskoye (Lugansk People’s Republic).
📊 In total, 326 airplanes and 162 helicopters, 2,349 unmanned aerial vehicles, 383 anti-aircraft missile systems, 6,084 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 874 combat vehicles equipped with multiple rocket-launching systems, 3,527 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 6,791 units of special military hardware have been destroyed during the special military operation.

Posted by: Summary | Oct 26 2022 10:41 utc | 499

Posted by: Summary | Oct 26 2022 10:41 utc | 507

Thank you.

Posted by: David Levin | Oct 26 2022 13:59 utc | 500