Why is a sizable contingent of the 101st Airborne deployed to Romania. I can’t see any actual reason for it. Maybe its just another silly “training” exercise designed to keep the US public “nervous” before the mid-terms. (Those 28 who actually even know about it). What’s the game?

Posted by: HOGGY | Oct 24 2022 16:14 utc | 103

There is the pesky theory that the 1945 bombs dropped on Japan were also dirty bombs.
Supposedly, a uranium based atomic bomb would leave the target area uninhabitable for centuries, yet those cities were rebuilt in 4 years.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 24 2022 16:18 utc | 105

Have people seen Maria Butina’s OP-ED in RT?
She mentions “Three hots and a cot” like it’s a shibboleth for networking with American black culture. Reaching out to Angela Davis to build Russian/Black solidarity during a world war? Cringe.

Posted by: GoFast | Oct 24 2022 16:20 utc | 107

@Opport-105: There is also a pesky theory that DU munitions that got pulverized in places like Fallujah are responsible for cancer and birth defects…..

Posted by: Chevrus | Oct 24 2022 16:22 utc | 109

I have to remind you that the airborne trannies were announced for Romania and other East European countries many months ago. A bit later, but still months ago, Macaron announced that some of his troops will go to Romania and other countries in the area. And they did go but wasn’t interesting for youtubers. Go search old news if you don’t believe me.

Posted by: rk | Oct 24 2022 16:30 utc | 111

Have look at where the RF forces are between Nikolaev and Kherson today. https://ibb.co/Zgp43wB You’d notice that the RF forces are actually not that far from Nikolaev, ~25-30 from it. You can also notice that the city of Kherson is far away inside the Russian lines. There’s quite chance that RF forces might attack Nikolaev, rather than Ukr army advancing on Kherson.
Most probably, Zelly is trying his soldiers’ luck attacking Zaporozhe, that at least is across the river. Only, the RF aviation and artillery can mortally strike the attacking force quite far away. Zelly is doing all this to get Biden the midterm victory.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 24 2022 16:41 utc | 113

UK’s prime minister is an Indian. London mayor is a Pakistani. Both were born in the UK, while their parents were born in the former British colony, undivided at that time, as India and Pakistan. Times are changing for former colonial looters.
Yes. The country will more and more resemble the countries Sunak and Sadiq Khan sure as heck don’t want to live in.

Posted by: JackG | Oct 24 2022 16:52 utc | 115

Yes. The country will more and more resemble the countries Sunak and Sadiq Khan sure as heck don’t want to live in.
JackG @ 115
How nice!
Glad to watch that happen to the colonial pirate/looter/bandit!

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 24 2022 16:55 utc | 117

Living as I do in the USA,the lack of Neo-Nazi ceremonies and festivities here is troubling. Support the troops used to be a patriotic thing her. If you can’t show support for Zelenski and his stalwart butchers and, really, the whole administrative staff, what can I say?

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 24 2022 17:00 utc | 119

All of this loose talk about a “dirty bomb” attack ignores the physics of nuclear fission and radioactive decay. Soon after detonation, the radioactivity of the fission products from even a moderate yield nuclear bomb is thousands if not millions of times greater than the radioactivity of any reasonable quantity of radioactive material that some imbecile might disperse with chemical explosives. Even so, the mass of shielding required to enable transportation and handling will result in a “bomb” about the size and weight of a main battle tank. The prolonged decay curve of a “dirty” bomb will be extremely easy to distinguish from the very rapid decay curve of fallout from a nuclear weapon. More importantly, measuring the decay curve in conjunction with analyzing the isotope ratios if individual elements will enable determination of how recently the fission or neutron capture events that creates the radioactive material occurred.
The bottom line is that unless the authorities are ignorant imbeciles, it is not possible to mistake the release from a “dirty bomb” for fallout from a nuclear explosion or even a nuclear fizzle. Unfortunately; the current handlers of America’s Senile Sock Puppet Biden are ignorant imbeciles as well as gratuitously dishonest.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Oct 24 2022 17:04 utc | 121

Re: PP (POST #122)
The hysteria over depleted Uranium used at Fallujah or anywhere else is drivel. The radioactively of any isotope is inversely proportional to its half-life. The longer the half-life, the less radioactive it is. With a half-life of over 4 BILLION years, the radioactivity of depleted Uranium is trivial. There are legitimate issues with chemical toxicity similar to that of Lead or Mercury, but it is nothing to shit your panties about.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Oct 24 2022 17:11 utc | 123

“Only the defeated commit [war] crimes”, the British novelist John Mortimer wrote not long ago.
see helmers latest for more..

Posted by: james | Oct 24 2022 17:13 utc | 125

Chevrus | Oct 24 2022 16:22 utc | 109

There is also a pesky theory that DU munitions that got pulverized in places like Fallujah are responsible for cancer and birth defects…..

It is not a theory. Hundreds of Italian NATO peacekeepers and Serbs have died/are dying from cancers caused by the radioactive dust which now poisons the ground and the water in areas of Serbia. Here is an extract of the press conference held by Zhao Lijian, the foreign Ministry spokesperson, on 10 June 2022

People’s Daily: Today marks the 23rd anniversary of the end of NATO’s bombing of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. After an international legal team filed lawsuits against NATO on behalf of 3,000 victims over the horrific consequences of up to 15 tons of depleted uranium bombs NATO dropped in 1999, NATO responded by saying it has immunity from prosecution. Do you have any comment?
Zhao Lijian: Twenty-three years ago, US-led NATO blatantly bombarded the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia for 78 days without the approval of the UN Security Council. In total, NATO dropped nearly 420,000 bombs weighing 22,000 tons, including 15 tons of depleted uranium bombs. Over 2,500 people including 79 children were killed and more than one million people became refugees as a direct result of the bombings. 
What is more heart-wrenching is that death and agony brought by the war lingered for generations till this day. As noted by experts, exposure to radiation emitted by depleted uranium bombs can show no symptom for years and depleted uranium bombs have long-term impact on the environment and human food-chain. In the 10 years after the bombing, about 30,000 people in Serbia developed cancer, among whom 10,000 died. According to the Institute of Public Health of Belgrade, by the end of 2019, the number of registered cancer patients in Serbia was as high as 97,000. A study of the Serbian emergency center shows that among children born in Serbia after 1999, many aged between one and five suffered from ectodermal tumors, many aged between five and nine contracted hematological malignancies, and there is a clear uptick in the morbidity rate of brain cancer among those aged between nine and 18. Besides, by May 2019, 366 Italian military personnel who participated in the NATO military operations have died of cancer, and 7,500 have fallen sick. 
However, till this day, the US — the country that sent military aircraft to drop depleted uranium bombs over Serbia and the inventor of this type of bombs as well as the only country that has ever used them — continues to deny that depleted uranium bombs can directly cause Gulf War syndrome and Kosovo syndrome. During the Gulf War, the US dropped far more depleted uranium bombs over Iraq. NATO is also trying to get away with it by claiming immunity from prosecution. Such moves by the US-led NATO are shocking. Neither the Serbian people, nor people elsewhere in the world seeking justice, will ever agree to this. The US-led NATO should earnestly reflect on its war crimes, and provide a reasonable explanation and compensations to the victims of depleted uranium bombs as soon as possible. NATO must also seriously learn the lesson and stop creating new turmoil and division across the world. 

Posted by: cirsium | Oct 24 2022 17:14 utc | 127

Re: Opport Knocks | Oct 24 2022 16:18 utc | 105
you wrote “There is the pesky theory that the 1945 bombs dropped on Japan were also dirty bombs.
Whoever came up with such a “pesky theory” should take a look at the photo of the mushroom clouds over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as well as the photos of those cities before and after being hit by US atomic/nuclear bombs. Do you really think a ‘dirty bomb’ could create such explosions and damage? And no, these cities were not subject to US firebombing raids, rather they were spared from such raids because they were being ‘saved’ for the atomic bombs, because the US wanted to see the effects on undamaged cities.

you also wrote “Supposedly, a uranium based atomic bomb would leave the target area uninhabitable for centuries, yet those cities were rebuilt in 4 years.
The atomic bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki were airbursts (this was done to maximize thermal and blast effects); their fireballs did not come into contact with the surface of the earth. Had they been ground bursts, their fireballs would have vaporized anything they came in contact with; immense amounts of soil and surface materials would have then been made highly radioactive, and produced huge amounts of fallout. The resulting high levels of radioactivity would have made the cities uninhabitable for a very long time.
As it was, many tens of thousands of Japanese died from radiation exposure to the fallout that came down as black rain following the detonation and subsequent firestorm that burned out the heart of the city.

Posted by: Steven Starr | Oct 24 2022 17:18 utc | 129

oldhippie | Oct 24 2022 15:07 utc | 76
precisely.
set it off near an orphanage for war vet kids and see how much size matters. hell, make a big bang with a conventional kitchen microwave and tell Amurkins Putin is poisoning the children (b/c we care so much about children), show some babies in incubators, orphan war babies struggling to breath and…
wait. memories…in the corners of my mind…will Hill and Knowlton still manage to fanagle a hefty “consulting fee” from USG for reworking the same script?
there’s also the issue of setting a precedent. since people don’t really know about DU, they’ll be shocked shocked SHOCKED to hear that there is radiological warfare going on already in this fine military establishment.
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Down South | Oct 24 2022 15:32 utc | 81
this kind of stuff works partly because people know zero history, even of things in their own recent lifetimes (e.g., Iraq).
and because people are conditioned not to trust their own senses. they can’t even correlate obesity to anything else about how they live, without “experts” running interference for industry and deluding people about how their knees got so gigantic. they can’t correlate the police state they live in w/foreign policy.
people gettin all apocalyptic and biblical these days…Ezekiel’s “valley of dry bones”? is that a useful image for the US? we are not quite there yet, since the rot is very contagious and the zombies are still moving and clawing and clutching and gnawing and gnashing. and have devoured all the brains long ago. somebody kick the dentures out of Biden’s dead mountain mouth already, please.
Petri Krohn | Oct 24 2022 16:06 utc | 100
thanks. analysis??? Americans will do some ANALYSIS before responding? hmmm…yeah…the point of all this dirty bomb talk is to create a situation in which no analysis will be possible that might induce a change of course, because of hysterical reaction. only one word will be allowed, and just long enough to start pressing some serious war buttons: REVENGE.
Elmer Fudd | Oct 24 2022 17:11 utc | 123
are you a cytopathologist working at the VA? cuz they don’t ever find DU to be a problem, either. funny, ain’t it?
burn pits are just piles of lead & mercury and such, right? no biggie. it was Saddam that caused your diabetes and malignant tumors, not that burn pit in the middle of your base.
funny how peoples’ cancers routinely get diagnosed w/o doctors having a clue or care what their patients are being exposed to. the patient is some cells in a dish, in fact.
and yes, I am referring specifically to America’s Heros, combat vets and their “care providers”.
but thanks for your input. remember to aim away from your own face, Elmer.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 24 2022 17:24 utc | 131

Evidently only billionaires and bankers are worthy to save humanity from billionaires and bankers. Good times!
Posted by: gottlieb | Oct 24 2022 14:32 utc | 61
To remove mice from a barn, one uses a cat, not other mice.

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 24 2022 17:30 utc | 133

“If the Europeans stop allocating money to Kyiv, then Ukraine will be left without salaries and pensions.” – Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmygal.
This is always the case in the colonies, there is nothing to be surprised at, the metropolis always keeps its vassals firmly on a “leash”.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 24 2022 17:36 utc | 135

The transcript of Lavrov’s presser after his Valdai Club appearance is now available. In it he’s asked about the dirty bomb issue and had this to say:

Question: Has the topic of Ukraine’s use of the “dirty bomb” been raised? In recent days, the Minister of Defense and the Head of the General Staff have been holding telephone conversations on this topic. Do you have any contacts planned on this issue?
Sergey Lavrov: Our information that provocations using a nuclear bomb may be planned in Ukraine is quite reliable. Detailed information indicating the institutions that may be involved in this was provided by Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu in his conversations with colleagues from the United States, France, Great Britain and Turkey. Our military departments have outlined other contacts. This issue will also be discussed in the UN Security Council today or tomorrow.
Unfounded refutations by Western colleagues that all this is fiction. They say that Russia itself plans to do something similar in order to later blame the Regime of Vladimir Zelensky – this is not a serious conversation. Some of the interlocutors offered to discuss the information we have at the professional military level. We supported this approach.

The Nazi pukes likely have control over this action, not Zelensky, which IMO means it’s more likely to happen. Which Western government is most likely in cahoots? My money’s on the UK.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 17:39 utc | 137

@ karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 17:39 utc | 137 with the Lavrov quotes about dirty bomb
It is interesting to see the UK showing its “residual” empire leanings. Is direction coming from King Chuck or the City of London Corp?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2022 17:46 utc | 139

@127: I used the word ‘theory’ in a somewhat sarcastic manner. I am well aware that women in Fallujah have been told to simply not bother to try to have a child due to so many horrible deformities

Posted by: Chevrus | Oct 24 2022 17:47 utc | 141

I forgot who, but someone from high up in the Russian Federation made an excellent remark today:
‘Do not measure the width of our red lines.’
If that doesn’t sound as a dire warning, then I do not know what it is.

Posted by: whirlX | Oct 24 2022 17:53 utc | 143

karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 17:39 utc | 137

https://t.me/rezident_ua/14251
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Our source in the OP said that the President’s Office is ready to create a dirty nuclear bomb to deter Russia. A headquarters has already been set up on Bankovaya Street with nuclear scientists and military personnel who are urgently preparing a group to develop nuclear weapons.
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https://t.me/rezident_ua/14355
Our source in the OP said that the President’s Office held a meeting with nuclear scientists and environmentalists on the nuclear threat track. Bankova is trying to find triggers that will force the West to seriously influence Russia, and not impose empty sanctions as was the case with the annexation of 4 regions.
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I have been reading this and the legitimate telegram channel for some time now and they have proved reasonably accurate. They would have to have the OK from MI6 for this bomb and I think is what was behind Ben Wallace’s sudden unscheduled trip to Washington a few days back.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 24 2022 17:58 utc | 145

‘UK’s prime minister is an Indian’. NO. He is British but of East African Asian heritage. Mrs Sunak is Indian. Both have a joint fortune of £730m. Her father is worth £3.9. (net)

Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Oct 24 2022 18:02 utc | 147

Obviously, Russia cannot expect Ukraine, Europe or US to deal rationally wish prospect of dirty bomb – they are busilly looking other way.
Is for Russia to make plans to ensure it would not provide a desired result.

Posted by: jared | Oct 24 2022 18:05 utc | 149

4 seismic events of unknown origin were recorded on October 20 and 21 near the Russian Primorsk and Vyborg, approximately in the area where the Nord Stream passes, reports the Finnish Seismological Institute.

Posted by: rk | Oct 24 2022 18:09 utc | 151

They could launch dirty bomb into old Russia or into new Russia or set several off in area of Odessa during attack, for example.
The best response might vary.
I imagine a pre-emptive active would be off the table.
I think it is axiomatic that the US would preemptively strike civilian centers in same situation.

Posted by: jared | Oct 24 2022 18:11 utc | 153

To understand the Ukraine-Russia war you have to understand the second world war.
To understand the second world war you need to read this article:
pre earth .net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1175
REMOVE the spaces from the URL
You need to know that Hitler was a double agent.
There is also an informative article on the COVID SCAM on the same page.

Posted by: un censored | Oct 24 2022 18:12 utc | 155

karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 18:10 utc | 152
the Ukr telegram channels Resident and Legitimate always talk of MI6 in relation to the presidents office, never CIA. Those channels have proved reasonably accurate in the time I have been reading them and they first reported on the making of a dirty bomb on Sep 28

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 24 2022 18:21 utc | 157

@Orgel 22
Have you ever read anything written by Marx, let alone studied what he said? How was Marx wrong about:
Capitalism’s chaotic nature and the boom bust cycle?
The rise of fictitious instruments?
The ongoing environmental catastrophe?
Mechanization, automation and AI?
Globalization of capitalism and the spread of the bourgeoisie?
Soaring inequality, reduced incomes, and rising debt?
Subservience to inhuman, sophisticated, unnatural and imaginary appetites?
Increasing regulation and the loss of the choice of how your time is spent?
Centralization and the spread of monopsony and monopolies?
The collapse of profits, incomes and employment?
The replacement of current economic systems.
And that is off the top-of-my head?

Posted by: Hermit | Oct 24 2022 18:36 utc | 159

… then we must be clear which entities merit her attention.
Posted by: AParadiseLost | Oct 24 2022 17:49 utc | 142
Indeed. Let only those who approved of the act be dosed with the same contaminants and let it be known that, to this end, no expense will be spared.

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 24 2022 18:44 utc | 161

@ gottlieb | Oct 24 2022 14:32 utc | 61
“We must call in bad men to govern bad men.” George III about Henry Fox as his prime minister

Posted by: John Kennard | Oct 24 2022 18:45 utc | 163

All the talk of a dirty bomb is just more evidence that time is not on Russia’s side.
It’s “Show Me” time for the supposed Russian offensive and the supposed impact of the mobilization of 370k troops.

Posted by: Dan Farrand | Oct 24 2022 19:01 utc | 165

@ karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 17:46 utc | 140
As a “red line,” easily run over in course of main-force operation but triggering greater involvement.
I’d expect the RF to run things around and past them, driving everyone crazy.

Posted by: John Kennard | Oct 24 2022 19:15 utc | 167

Jax @164–
Try reading my comment @152.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 19:16 utc | 169

Can We Avoid World War 3?
Tulsi Gabbard & Jeffrey Sachs talk about the the life and death situation of a possible World War III.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjf-0ysmigw

Posted by: Babel-17 | Oct 24 2022 19:19 utc | 171

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 18:10 utc | 152
Agreed. My take:
1) We’ve been hearing “false flag” since before the war started. So far – zip, nada, zero. Except for things like Bucha and blowing up a few chemical warehouses to no practical effect, Ukraine hasn’t managed to pull off one false flag so far.
2) That said, it’s quite possible that this time the false flag is real, prepared by MI6 and the CIA and Ukraine, possibly by rogue elements of each.
3) If it does occur, I don’t believe Russia will target outside Ukraine because Russia still doesn’t want to start – or be blamed for starting – a war directly with NATO.
4) What Russia will almost certainly do, however, is decapitate the Ukrainian government, especially if any significant number of Russian soldiers are killed as a result of such a bomb.
5) The real question is: what will NATO do as the next step after accusing Russia of being responsible for the bomb, and then the Ukrainian decapitation? If the false flag was not prepared by rogue intelligence assets but with full knowledge by NATO leaders, then we must assume NATO will enter the war directly. They won’t have a choice not to. That alone could lead to a NATO collapse if it is seen by its members to be toothless. So they will enter the war or at least try to.
6) Then the real question becomes: does the Russia-NATO escalate out of control, or does Russian escalation dominance shut it down before it can escalate too far?
Just some things to think about…

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 24 2022 19:24 utc | 173

John Kennard @167–
IMO, Russia doesn’t want to enter any other nations unless it absolutely must. Russia’s capable of KOing the troublesome missile emplacements in Romania and Poland with hypersonics alone, which was mentioned well before Russia’s security proposals of last December. What Russia, China, India, and RoW want is to develop and modernize peacefully without any interference in any form as International Law provides. The Outlaw US Empire’s so-called national security policy doesn’t allow for any of that–Primacy must be kept at ALL COSTS.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 19:25 utc | 175

@160 To really understand WW2 you have to realize that Stalin and Hitler were secretly married. It’s in a deleted passage from Churchill’s book.

Posted by: dh | Oct 24 2022 19:37 utc | 177

re: Chevrus | Oct 24 2022 16:22 utc | 109 and cirsium | Oct 24 2022 17:14 utc | 127
The book, A Primer in the Art of Deception: The Cult of Nuclearists, Uranium Weapons and Fraudulent Science” is the best source I have found on DU and the “radiation safety standards” created by the nuclear health physicists.
In chapter 8, Are Uranium Weapons Made of Uranium?, the author, Paul Zimmerman, makes the point that “With the possible exception of a small number of workers in limited sectors of the uranium fuel cycle and some who are involved in the fabrication of components for nuclear weapons, no human being on planet earth receives acute internal exposure to concentrated uranium at levels comparable to those who inhale particles of DU. . . Using 360 nanocuries per gram as the specific activity of DU, this translates into 13,320 disintegrations per second per gram. To receive equivalent exposure to this gram of DU, you would need to take into your body 532,800 grams of soil.”
In the chapter Scam Number One, Zimmerman analyzes the computational system developed for computing dosages from internal emitters and finds that it hides the high radiation doses delivered to individual cells or tiny clusters of cells by microscopic particles of DU (as well as other radionuclides) by averaging the dose over the entire organ system where the cells reside. While the formulas used to calculate dose employ “quality factors” that multiply the cellular impact of alpha particles by a factor of 20, this increase is negated when large quantities of tissue are used to average the exposure for the particular organ system involved. In other words, it is like multiplying by 20 and then dividing by a million.
Zimmerman has a list of 39 scams used by the nuclear industry to hide the dangers of internally absorbed/ingested/inhaled “low dose” radiation. I copy below his “Exhibit A” taken from this list:
“The entire system that has evolved to safeguard the welfare of humanity is ultimately grounded on
one fundamental idea: The essential feature of the interaction of radiation with biological systems
is the transfer of energy from its source to the medium in which it is absorbed, and the degree of
injury is proportional to the amount of energy transferred. When now queried by current
understanding, biology responds that this central idea is erroneous. The neat concept of energy
transfer is largely irrelevant to the biological response to ionizing radiation.
“The amount of kinetic energy transferred in each collision [between a charged particle and the
molecular components of a cell] plays no role in the production of radiation effects in mammalian
cells”. From Radiation Protection Dosimetry: A Radical Reappraisal (Simmons and Watt).
The biological effects of ionizing radiation cannot be adequately modeled by simply dividing the
quantity of energy by the mass into which it is deposited. That mode of thinking blinds one to the
reality of how biological damage is actually induced by radiation. A living system is made up of
cells. Impact on the functioning of these cells depends on how the energy is distributed in
relationship to critical cellular structures.”
Zimmerman continues (in Exhibit D):
“The model used today by international agencies formulating safety for internal contamination by
radionuclides is essentially the same model, with updated modifications, developed during the
Manhattan Project, the Tri-Partite Conferences, and the meetings of the committees on internal
emitters of the NCRP and the ICRP. This model was developed prior to the discovery of DNA!
Since the 1950s, a revolution has taken place in biology. Entire vistas of cellular and molecular
biology, totally unsuspected by World War II physicists, have opened up for scientific exploration.
The rapid advancement in technology has created powerful tools for imaging cellular structures
and probing the mysteries of the molecular chemistry that orchestrates cellular processes.
Advances have been so profound that, today, microbeams can deliver individual alpha particles to
cells in vitro and the altered morphology of cellular structures can be determined by DNA
sequencing and correlated with functional aberrations. Over this amazing new world of
microscopic wonders and the deepening understanding of the cellular and molecular basis of life,
the ICRP, NCRP, NRPB, UNSCEAR, and BEIR, like Fascist dictators, inflexibly demand that their
archaic model of radiation effects be the basis for radiation protection. They tyrannize all
discussions on the biological effects of ionizing radiation, and are rigidly intolerant of allowing other
points of view from gaining a footing. Despite the fact that cellular response to radiation can now
be studied as never before, these “august” bodies of self-declared experts insist that radiation
effects can only be properly modeled as they were modeled in the early 1950s. This state of
affairs is despotic. The ruling paradigm on radiation effects maintains its supremacy by ignoring a
half-century of research in the biological sciences.
So when discussing the effects of a ‘dirty bomb’ or nuclear war, keep in mind that the long-term biological impacts of so-called “low dose” radiation from ingested/absorbed/inhaled particles may be much worse than the current radiation safety standards admit.

Posted by: Steven Starr | Oct 24 2022 19:41 utc | 179

The Big Question: Do Imperial planners see/understand any of that or are they blinded by their hubris?
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 19:14 utc | 166
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Always like your input, but youre overthinking this. It’s actually quite simple – so elementary that most either don’t understand or overlook its importance.
All it takes is one shot of that sweet banker money. Of course, bankers are not richer than states, so why would they need to borrow?
What happens of course is that the money is conjured out of thin air in the form of an iou. It has the same purchasing power as real money upon first use.
So why not commit if one can procure weapons & armies in which to possibly gain territories, resources and enough wealth to pay off the loan?
The problem of course is that another round of financing is required to create sufficient ‘money’ in which to pay the interest on the first tranche. Thus the perpetual cycle is born …
Now what happens when there are no longer easily acquired resources to drive economic activity which in term creates capital demand that once again is printed out of thin air?
See, the Satanic demons never explain that small detail in the fine print. And so it goes as each successive host is exploited until it’s time to find a new home.
Once the victim realizes what’s happened, it possibly realizes that it’s already lost. Once the difference between complete collapse and military defeat? None, so if these a micro chance of survival, why not risk all.
That’s what everybody is missing; it’s all Russia red line this, Russia existentional threat that.
But the situation with the country/alliance that is already a dead man walking seems to be ignored or characterized as crazy.
Not crazy, perfectly rational given all other possible outcomes. Like I said, our bed was made taking that first sweet intoxicating hit way back in 1913.

Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 24 2022 19:48 utc | 181

Biggest dirty bomb in the Ukraine is the stinking pile of shit they have for a President.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 24 2022 20:02 utc | 183

I dont get why anybody would take marx still seriously. Nothing happened the way he predicted it. Nothing.
Posted by: Orgel | Oct 24 2022 13:05 utc | 22
The three “great” jew visionaries of history are all equally fake, plagiaristic, subversive, damaging and laughably wrong: marx, freud and einstein.

Posted by: Jusses | Oct 24 2022 20:11 utc | 185

karlof1 | Oct 24 2022 19:14 utc | 166 “I must admit I don’t see any party gaining anything from such a provocation”
It has been my impression that UK is trying to take US into direct war with Russia. The 220 to 240 thousand strong Ukraine trained military at the start of the SMO plus all their heavy weapons are long gone – destroyed by a much smaller Russian force.
Biden saying Russia using tactical nukes in Ukraine left an open field for UK false flag. There may have also been some collusion by the faction in the US that Ehret termed the loyalists.
As an Australian I see two extremist factions in the US plus the overlap. There is the faction that is fanatical about destroying Russia before moving on to China and on the opposite side is the faction that wants detente with Russia so they can attack China. The overlap is those that want to attack Russia and China at the same time.
I we get through this changing of an era – the fall of the west and the rise of the east – without it going nuclear, I think Putin’s name will be there alongside Tzu and Clausewitz.
Some time in the last few years Putin said his intention was to make Russia so strong nobody would attack it. Any use of nuke or dirty bomb is an absolute red line for Russia. Shoigu talked to his counterparts in the last few days and now Gerasimov is talking to his counterparts. Those counterparts, even though many are political hacks, do I think have some inkling of the superiority of Russia’s next gen strategic weapons systems.
Interesting watching Europe and Nato now. Turkey vs Greece, Poland vs Germany ect. If we make it through without nukes, the war against Russia will end, likely in the northern hemisphere winter but Hudson’s decades of war will most likely be between the western/Nato states. Quite likely to be a lot of turbulence in the third world also – those countries that haven’t or haven’t been able to hedge against the collapse of the western economic system.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 24 2022 20:18 utc | 187

Nato detonates dirty or low yield bomb in ukraine such as Nikolev, killing ethnic Russians. It will be used a pretext for Nato to capture odessa and enter the war. Nato believes thats Russia will not cross Nuclear threshold on NATO territories in respons and will sacrifice ukraine.
However Russia should immediately let USUK know that red line has been crossed, radioactive contamination will affect Russian terrorties.
In a tit for tat response Russia should take out Kiev with conventional weapons and fire a nuclear missile at Florida, a remote area of Florida to minimize civilian casualties and advise US of the same.
Then the escalation factor is with Nato to take world to Nuclear Armageddon or discuss peace terms with Russia.

Posted by: Jason Jackson | Oct 24 2022 20:22 utc | 189

The sad fact is that Western media consumers are trained via multiple repeated messages to accept whatever they’re told.
Brainwashing is just the repetition of messages.
Brainwashing is just the repetition of messages.
Brainwashing is just the repetition of messages.
They’ll be told that Putin set the bomb on purpose so he’d have an excuse to launch his nukes on international cities.
They’ll completely ignore the fact that this would lead to chain of events so devastating that there is no reason to setup a pretext. If Putin wants to nuke international cities he’s better off getting the surprise draw. But the western muppets won’t get it.

Posted by: Sideshow Bob | Oct 24 2022 20:34 utc | 191

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2022 14:14 utc | 53
«It is not only Minsk II that is disregarded there is Security Council resolution 2202 (2015) supporting Minsk II.»
Another thing that is never mentioned is that the east German state was erased and its territory annexed by the west german state and NATO without any referendum or agreement, it has been called “re-unification” but it was done as an invasion and occupation (even if it was not resisted by the east germans) The referendum before the forcible annexation of east Germany was not done because the polls showed that:
* A large minority of east Germans preferred independence (perhaps even a small a majority), and a large majority wanted unified Germany to be neutral, not a vassal of NATO, which they regarded as no better than the Warsaw Pact.
* Most east germans wanted the annexation to be negotiated between the two governments, with a treaty between them, as obviously this would have resulted in much better terms for east Germany.
The model for many east germans might have been for Prussia (east germans) to return as an independent, socialdemocratic, neutral, prosperous country like Austria (south germans). for the USA that probably seemed like outrageous insubordination.

Posted by: Blissex | Oct 24 2022 20:38 utc | 193

Posted by: chunga | Oct 24 2022 14:06 utc | 47
“It continues to amaze me that among western politicians, media and so forth, there isn’t a single, solitary pair of balls big enough to utter Minsk II.”
It is mentioned sometimes, as an unequal treaty that colonial overlord Putin forced Poroshenko to sign with threats. Some interesting quotes as to that:
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vladimir-putin-turned-down-petro-poroshenko-offer-take-donbass-east-ukraine-1495181
“Poroshenko made the offer during a peace summit in Minsk in February 2015, Putin reportedly told a senior member of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs on 19 March. An anonymous source present at the closed door meeting revealed to Forbes Russian edition that Putin told the summit: “[Poroshenko] told me directly: ‘Take the Donbass.’ I replied: ‘Are you out of your mind? I don’t need the Donbass. If you don’t need it, declare it independent.'” Poroshenko reportedly asked Putin to take financial responsibility for the region, where the city of Donetsk called itself a ‘People’s Republic’ after the Maidan Revolution last year. Putin replied that the region was Kiev’s financial responsibility, as long as it remained part of Ukraine.”
https://tfiglobalnews.com/2022/06/20/ukraines-new-masterstroke-against-russia-is-actually-ukraines-biggest-pro-russia-move/
“Former Ukrainian President, Petro Poroshenko has admitted that the 2015 ceasefire in Donbas, which he negotiated with Russia, France, and Germany as president of Ukraine was indeed a distraction intended to buy time for Kyiv to rebuild its military. He made the remarks in interviews with numerous news outlets this week, including Germany’s Deutsche Welle television and Radio Free Europe’s Ukrainian unit.”

Posted by: Blissex | Oct 24 2022 20:40 utc | 195

ultra-nationalists won’t contaminate their own land.
Posted by: GoFast | Oct 24 2022 20:29 utc | 191
Haven’t you been paying attention? Zelensky’s jew government aren’t ukrainian nationalists and it’s not their own land. They’ll be happy to make part of it glow in the dark to make Israel number 2 (neo-khazaria), just like they were happy to kill a few million ‘little’ jews to make Israel number 1.
They can always put the goys in the glowing part after they separate them from their children and organs.

Posted by: Jusses | Oct 24 2022 20:46 utc | 197

Jason Jackson 190

In a tit for tat response Russia should take out Kiev with conventional weapons and fire a nuclear missile at Florida, a remote area of Florida to minimize civilian casualties and advise US of the same.

Why bother with Florida if I can hit Washington DC instead. The rest of US citizens might even be grateful that somebody finally did it.
Can’t bring myself to say the same about London – there are quite a few nice people there I dont want to kill.

Posted by: grunzt | Oct 24 2022 20:54 utc | 199