A call to a couple foreign defense ministers from Russia so far about a “dirty bomb”. Explains the evacuation. There is no retreat though. More soldiers and equipment being sent to the Khereson region by the RF. Rumors of yet another attack to try and take the ZPP, this time by American and British special ops. Hope so, mow them down and put them on display. Ukraine keeps trying to push through Russian defenses here and there with no success. We all know Ze doesn’t breathe unless his US masters tell him how. Something big going to happen soon to try and make it look like all the money Biden’s been throwing at this train wreck was worth it. Watching an empire collapse in real time is quite the sight to see. What other desperate measures will they come up with to try and reverse their unstoppable fall?

Posted by: Watzov | Oct 23 2022 13:45 utc | 4

Posted by: Watzov | Oct 23 2022 13:45 utc | 5
Problem is they will all be called mercenaries or volunteers and only one or two passports will be shown .How many dead Polish merc passports have you seen? None. How many dead USA or UK ? One or two from many months ago.
“It didn’t happen if there is no photo”, is a well known American saying , and both Russia and the Zatoists all play by these rules. Never show photos of all the dead passports; that way we both pretend to our publics that we are not fighting one another directly.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Oct 23 2022 13:54 utc | 6

Posted by: Brother Ma | Oct 23 2022 13:54 utc | 7
Yes, the “Picture or it didn’t happen” line. I’m sure they have their Twitter troll army, CIA bots and MSM all practicing their lines and arguments to place the blame on Russia. Everyone knows the US playbook by now. Even a dirty bomb isn’t going to change anything globally. If anything, it will speed up the process of the inevitable collapse of the USA. I really hope this provocation doesn’t happen, a lot of innocent people dying and injured once again because of the quest for world domination.

Posted by: Watzov | Oct 23 2022 14:09 utc | 8

Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Oct 23 2022 14:05 utc | 8
They will not succeed. We’re likely to see nuclear armageddon before that. Of course, that won’t be triggered by Russia, because Russia’s conventional forces are more than enough to reduce the “Western alliance” into a pile of rubble.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 23 2022 14:18 utc | 10

🇧🇾 Beldortsentr (an enterprise that controls traffic on the roads of Belarus) has closed access to traffic cameras on the country’s highways, Belarusian websites report.
It should be noted that a similar situation took place on January 14, a month before the entry of the Russian Armed Forces into the northern regions of Ukraine from the territory of Belarus, when the State Border Committee removed access to cameras at the entrance and exit from the Belarusian border crossings on the border with Ukraine.

https://t.me/intelslava/39907

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 14:25 utc | 12

🇺🇸🇷🇺🇺🇦🇧🇾Retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will lose combat capability if Russian troops seize supply lines in the Volyn and Lviv regions.
According to Davis, the Ukrainian army will not be able to conduct combat operations for several months if the Russian Armed Forces cut the land supply route of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Poland.
The American expert considers the route through the Carpathians along the Slovak and Romanian borders as an alternative for Western supplies of military equipment, but this is an extremely difficult route.
Davis said that in this case, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will quickly run out of ammunition and missiles for HIMARS systems, and it will not be possible to replace them in time.
Meanwhile,another batch of Russian Army arrived today in Belarus(Russia MOD claims that in Belarus have 9000 soldiers,but that number might be much much higher)

https://t.me/azmilitary11/26444

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 14:27 utc | 14

🇨🇳🇮🇳🇷🇺 🇺🇸 Anti-Russian sanctions have backfired and are hurting the West-New York Post
“The sanctions imposed by the US and the EU were supposed to destroy the Russian economy, but they had the opposite effect,” the American New York Post states
▪️The West’s tactic of not buying Russian energy resources failed, as Moscow managed to negotiate with China and India on the purchase of oil and gas. NYP considers it ironic that while Americans and Europeans are suffering from the energy crisis, these countries(India and China) are buying energy at a discount
▪️ “The current approach to sanctions against Russia has failed. The ruble is stronger than it was before the conflict, and the Russian military budget is growing due to high energy prices. American consumers are suffering, and Europeans are in for a miserable winter. Let’s do everything possible to lower energy prices-by any means,” NYP suggests
“>https://nypost.com/2022/10/21/oil-sanctions-only-hurt-us-and-help-putin-theres-a-better-way

https://t.me/azmilitary11/26439

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 14:29 utc | 16

Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Oct 23 2022 14:05 utc | 8

Most agree that China is one of the latter. But what if the USA is doing that also.
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Personally, I think that is the goal. And from a purely western point of view, it is rather clever.

Someone is doing it too.
It is not the USA or UK.
It is who controls both.
Yes, it is rather clever.
It’s how the USSR lost.
‘USA’ played a long game.
The PRC watched, learned.
They’ll play a longer game.
They know what’s at stake.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 23 2022 14:31 utc | 18

Meloni, the latest puppet – “USA and all our NATO partners can count on us to support at our best the brave people of Ukraine and to enforce our strategic partnership.”

Posted by: rk | Oct 23 2022 14:34 utc | 20

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Situation in the Soledar Direction at 14:00 on 23 Oct 2022⚡️
▪️ In #Bakhmut area, AFU command focused on halting the advance of Wagner PMC assault units.
▪️ During the advance from #Otradovka, Russian troops pushed units of the 58th Motorized Infantry Brigade of the AFU into the reserve lines.
▪️ The command of the 2nd Battalion of the 53rd Mechanized Brigade of the AFU was tasked to hold the defence line in #Opytnoye. Reinforcements from Chasov Yar are being moved to this section of the front, including armoured personnel carriers and several armoured vehicles.
▪️ Units of the 46th Separate Assault Battalion of the AFU´s 53rd Mechanized Brigade, supported by artillery and UAVs, attempted to flank the advancing Russian Forces from the direction of #Kleshcheevka. The attack was repulsed.
Ukrainian artillery is shelling the areas of the Russian advance in #Zaitsevo, #Otradovka, east of #Soledar, the area of the asphalt works and the outskirts of #Opytnoye with barrage fire.
▪️ In the #Seversk sector, separate units of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade of the AFU conducted a reconnaissance battle near #Serebryanka.
The Russian soldiers sucessfully repulsed the attack. The forces of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade suffered losses in personnel and equipment. The command of the Brigade plans to resume the counterattack in the #Seversk and #Soledar areas to regain control over the lost positions.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/16241

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 14:35 utc | 22

Excellent video compilation of the Nordstream explosion narrative as can only be told in “The Western Matrix”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSZyKYitC3M

Posted by: daffyDuct | Oct 23 2022 14:40 utc | 24

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 23 2022 14:33 utc | 19

After Russia invaded Ukraine in late February, Western nations, including the United States and those in Europe, were quick to slap punitive sanctions on the country. The idea was to punish Russia for the invasion by collapsing its economy. President Biden told the public the goal was to “reduce the ruble to rubble.”
Eight months later, it is clear that this has not worked. The ruble is not “rubble” — in fact, it is stronger than it was before the war in February, having risen around 23% against the dollar. Why have the sanctions failed so badly?
Simply put: The war and the sanctions themselves have drastically increased energy costs. Since Russia’s main export is energy products, this means Russia is raking it in. In September 2021, Russia’s current account surplus — the amount of money Russia is earning from its trading partners — was around $75 billion. Today it is around $198 billion. The sanctions policies have created a bizarre situation in which the United States and its allies are paying more at the pump, and the Russians are sitting on a growing pile of cash.

Oil sanctions are only hurting us and helping Putin — there’s a better way

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 14:42 utc | 26

@Pete | Oct 23 2022 13:03 utc | 1
I don’t know how accurate that news is but, if true, there is no surprise at all. One of the gains of the Russian SMO in Ukraine is that it has completely exposed the hypocrisy of the West and its lies about rule of law and human rights. Afterall the war criminal, Henry Kissinger, is a Nobel Peace Prize Laureate.

Posted by: Steve | Oct 23 2022 14:46 utc | 28

Interesting read by Larry Johnson

Is NATO foolish enough to try to massively reinforce Ukrainian troops if Russia stages a major break out? Here is the reality–the 101st alone is not a sufficient force and NATO would require MONTHS–let me reiterate that point–MONTHS to round up and deploy the thousands of troops that would be required to pose a credible threat to a Russian advance.
Do you think Russia will sit idly doing nothing while NATO scrambles to assemble a force to invade Ukraine and challenge Russia? Ain’t going to happen.
I agree with Andrei’s observation that Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s first call to Russia’s Shoigu since May was probably to reassure the Russians that the reports coming out about the 101st Airborne Division element in Romania was hype and that the United States had no intention of deploying that unit to Ukraine.
The CBS report target audience is the American public. Keep feeding them bullshit in a desperate attempt to convince them that America should be fighting in Ukraine. I do not think most Americans have the stomach for another feckless foreign military misadventure.

101st Airborne Does Photo Op In Romania

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 14:55 utc | 30

🇮🇷✈️🇺🇦Iranian drones are still very difficult to shoot down
The New York Times published an interesting article dedicated to the struggle of the Ukrainian military with kamikaze UAVs.
The news agency interviewed an Air Force pilot with the call sign “Juice”, who also told a lot of interesting things.
“Juice” said that the APU has developed a kind of strategy to combat drones: fighters patrol the sky, SAMs and radar detect drones, and teams of soldiers with machine guns have been formed in cities that will shoot down UAVs, focusing on hearing and eye. He also stated that it is very difficult to detect drones and that on radars these large drones are often confused with flocks of birds or other objects.
“On instructions from the ground, I flew up to what was supposed to be an Iranian drone, but I didn’t find anything. On this day, as on many others, I returned with nothing” — this is how “Juice” describes one of these departures.
The article also notes an important fact: firing air-to-air missiles at drones is an extremely difficult and expensive pleasure, and such flights also waste the resource of Ukrainian fighters, wearing them out.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/23/world/europe/ukraine-russia-drones-iran.html
P.S. Good advice for Ukraine is to ram them with their airplanes,since AFU and other security organs have only machine guns as anti-air defense

https://t.me/azmilitary11/26474

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 15:04 utc | 32

The link to the NY Post works for me. The NYP, by the way, is owned by Murdoch.
What is a pitch deck?

Posted by: Lysias | Oct 23 2022 15:08 utc | 34

Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 23 2022 14:22 utc | 11
$usd = mic + energy?
BoJo + Sarmat = Waterworld?

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 23 2022 15:11 utc | 36

… There is basically no economic defense.
Posted by: bottle | Oct 23 2022 14:46 utc | 29
Hmmm, it might be possible to fly even larger & lighter balloons above the operational ceiling of weapons balloons and use these to drop lightweight guided-explosive “darts” to rupture weapons balloons at lower altitudes =)
Balloon wars!

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 23 2022 15:24 utc | 38

rk @ 20

Meloni, the latest puppet…

If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal – Emma Goldman
True then, even truer now when across the West all but the most cartoonish pretense at democracy has been scuttled. If Meloni was anything but a neoliberal hack or outright pwnd she’d have been done away like Corbin, Sanders, Gabbard, Trump, and mind you none of those are outsiders but sustainers of the capitalist system asking only for an approach milder and smarter than an iron fist towards the working class.
And, keep in mind the stature of Berlusconi and Trump, absolute paragons of the oligarchy system, they were destroyed for daring to return to traditional politics and imagining themselves power brokers rather than technical managers for a clique of neocons and banking elites. Looking back on the Dominique Strauss-Kahn event I can’t believe I fell for the hoax at the time, he was set to become the next President and must have also imagined himself a power broker, and it’s clear now he must have been against France rejoining NATO and the early stage planning over Ukraine and war. Bernie was a though nut as he couldn’t be accused of anti-semitism, anti-wokeism, too old for a sex scandal, and was squeeky clean financially, so they simply stole the votes. Whatever it takes no matter how foul and sordid they’ll get you out.
The only room in politics now is for people who know the score from the start, not just the career risks but the personal risks ie JFK, Palme, Kaczyński, western politics today is like joining the mafia, there are no good guys. Politicians like Obama, Scholz, Macron, and now Meloni whatever their past reservations or thoughts know to shut up and play their roles. Biden’s been a cruel, simple minded gangster his entire career, a Tony Montana who made it to the top, but just in case they have his balls in jar too, they have his son hostage, so it’s stick to the plan Joe or 52y/o Hunter gets 20 years.
Berlusconi and Trump are going to try it again, older and wiser, moved to the inside or still rebels??? Place your bets.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 23 2022 15:40 utc | 40

Shoigu made the 4th call today, to US this time. While he’s faking war for another day, zely is very active with more terrorist attacks. And the 300k warriors still exist only on paper.

Posted by: rk | Oct 23 2022 15:49 utc | 42

🇷🇺🤝🇮🇷Iran to supply 40 gas turbines to Russia
Tehran will supply 40 gas turbines to Russia under the relevant agreement, Managing Director of the Iranian Gas Engineering and Development Company (IGEDC) Reza Noshadi said.
“85% of the equipment and facilities necessary for the functioning of the gas industry are produced on the territory of Iran, for this reason we [Iran] have concluded an agreement with Russia on the supply of 40 Iranian-made gas turbines,” Tasnim news agency quoted him as saying.
On October 9, Iranian Oil Minister Javad Oudji said that Russia and Iran had concluded deals in the oil and gas industry worth $44 billion, and his deputy informed that the Russian Federation was going to start developing six oil and two gas fields located on the territory of the Islamic Republic of Iran

https://t.me/azmilitary11/26479

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 15:55 utc | 44

@ YIU | Oct 23 2022 15:55 utc | 46
looks like it is from the nyt, so it must be true, lolol…

Posted by: james | Oct 23 2022 16:07 utc | 46

The issue of drones is RCS. Radar Cross Section. This is the basic parameter of stealth.
A drone need not be designed carefully to be stealthy. It may still be via form-follows-function. Regardless, not much effort would be required to provide some stealth in the aerodynamic design. It is a small cross section to begin with.
Air to Air missiles are in two major variants — radar seeking and heat seeking. The IR sensors are looking for much rather signature than a small drone would have, and with small RCS, the same is true for radar. The sophisticated radar missiles are looking for radar return off the target from the radar of the firing aircraft for much of its flight, and then transitions to terminal guidance at various distances from the target. This ability allows the firing aircraft to stop illuminating the target and turn away. Some missiles transition to IR for terminal guidance.
IR seeking missiles have always had an issue with aspect. Aspect refers to geometry of the engagement. A missile closing on a target from behind the target in tail aspect has a good heat signature for guidance. From in front of the target in nose aspect the issue becomes the seeker’s design and its ability to get adequate signature from the engine intake. Beam aspect is obviously a combination of both issues.
For drones, there just isn’t much signature. It all comes down to that, heat or radar.

Posted by: I Know Things | Oct 23 2022 16:12 utc | 48

From ZH, looks like another bad day for the Trolls. I wonder if Ukraine might not collapse in time for the US midterms so important for Biden!
On Saturday the national power utility operator Ukrenergo said that damage from the latest round of Russian strikes set a new record. The Saturday air offensive by Russia was bigger than an initial major wave of strikes from earlier this month:
Over 1.4 million Ukrainian households have lost electricity after a morning of repeated Russian air raids, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s office says.
The Ukrainian General Staff reported that 40 cruise missiles and 16 allegedly Iranian-made drones hit Ukraine throughout the day.
Oleksandr Kharchenko, a Ukrainian energy official, said in an interview with US media that national infrastructure vital for the people is facing “really huge trouble”.
“When you don’t have electricity in a city, it means you have no water, you have no supply of gas, you have nothing,” Kharchenko said. Days prior to the stepped-up Saturday assault the government said one-third of all power stations had been hit or damaged in Russian strikes.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 23 2022 16:17 utc | 50

These increasing reports of US intentions to intervene directly in Ukraine are an indication the US fears the impending defeat of Ukraine (and their NATO backers).
It’s abundantly clear the Ukrainian military will collapse much sooner than the US/NATO expected: in the range of months, not years.
Given that the West will not be able to survive a defeat of Ukraine the US will opt to send troops into Ukraine in desperation.
The current thinking among many is that Odessa will be captured (or at least the attempt made) by US/NATO forces to prevent rump Ukraine from being landlocked.
The only question is whether Putin will allow this, or whether he will move to ensure it doesn’t happen – the choice is completely up to him.
If Putin chooses to prevent the taking of Odessa he will certainly be successful.
Alternatively, he could well allow the taking of Odessa and use the Black Sea fleet to “boil” all troops there until they decide to leave.
A nuclear escalation is possible at any point above.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 23 2022 16:23 utc | 52

I sense, it was important for Ukraine to show some progress in order to rationalize the commitment of US reinforcements. This needs to be done bofore midterms I imagine to lock in the conflict and the need for continued supply of arms in support then of US military.

Posted by: jared | Oct 23 2022 16:37 utc | 54

US military is only there as symbolic gesture – forcing Russia into choice to escalate. Would still be Ukrainians doing the fighting.
Russia should be making plans for another 1,000,000 if they really intend to complete. I imagine 300,000 is small force for task at hand.

Posted by: jared | Oct 23 2022 16:41 utc | 56

At least Russia can say to conscripts that they are going into a conflict that they are generally winning and that they will not be sacrificed for media consumption.

Posted by: jared | Oct 23 2022 16:44 utc | 58

A US military unit is stationed there a hundred miles from Ukraine because the self-appointed world hegemon must show that it can be anywhere, especially near a war zone, in this case with the easily-placed (yet ineffective) 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division. . .bragging rights. . . .Russia probably is not impressed.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 23 2022 16:49 utc | 60

Posted by: Anthony | Oct 23 2022 16:43 utc | 58
No need to ban, but what can be done is what I used to do on an old blog was move all obvious troll posts to a common forum. I named the forum: Troll Farm. Regular readers could view these posts and reply to them but I would never allow a single troll post to remain in a subject post.

Posted by: Milton | Oct 23 2022 16:57 utc | 62

Elmagnostic @ 39
“The warrant officers were in high heaven when they got to fire off Hellfire missiles.”
Those infamous missiles have a 9kg warhead, a max range of 11km and are air launched. What that means is they are only useful when the cowboys have complete air supremacy and then they can go kill wedding and funeral parties. It is a small shortrange missile that requires an air platform. With luck they might be able to take out a tank. Maybe. At a cost of $150,000 each plus the cost of operating the airplane.
Compare to a Geran-2 with a 50kg warhead, ground launched off a rack on the back of a pickup truck, apparent range of hundreds of kilometers. At a cost of $10,000 and very possibly less.
Conclusion: The cowboys of the 101st are firing off damp squibs at enormous cost with no understanding of what they are doing. They are fooling themselves and their professor. Hellfire sends them to high heaven? This would be a good time use the suddenly popular term ‘satanic’ except Satan is not so stupid as your students.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 23 2022 16:57 utc | 64

Time to have the talk with the high schoolers that killing people is not a worthy proffesion.
Posted by: jared | Oct 23 2022 16:52 utc | 62
One of the accomplishments I am most proud of is keeping my son and
all his high school buddies save one out of the military. The one is now a Troll!

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 23 2022 17:03 utc | 66

@ 62
There’s hope: US Army has so far met only 70% of its fiscal 2022 active duty recruiting goal. With just a couple days left in the fiscal year, the service is on track to miss its recruiting target by up to 30,000 soldiers. Army has announced they are not only bumping up bonuses to keep soldiers, but they are offering up to $50,000 enlistment bonuses.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 23 2022 17:06 utc | 68

Time to have the talk with the high schoolers that killing people is not a worthy proffesion.
Posted by: jared | Oct 23 2022 16:52 utc | 62
One of my accomplishments I am most proud of is keeping my son and all his high school buddies save one out of the military. That one is now actually a Troll, they pick smart kids for the task.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 23 2022 17:07 utc | 70

The only thing I could see the 101st attempting might be Transnistria. It must be tempting to see all that soviet ammunition just sitting there. But even that would require going face to face with Russian troops already there. The 101st might be able to win that, but the escalation cost is high. And in the worst case Russia almost certainly has the means to detonate the dump with stand off weaponry.
I’d really prefer the world not to face leadership choices like “blow up the largest ammo depot in Europe with the 101st standing on it, or allow that ammunition to flow south and then against your own army.” But most likely the 101st is just there for domestic consumption and emergency evacuation. The polling isn’t there to support American boys dying.

Posted by: Lex | Oct 23 2022 17:15 utc | 72

In Kherson it wasn’t a car bomb:
TASS – an improvised explosive device fixed to an utility pole was detonated remotely, killing one civilian and wounding one more

Posted by: rk | Oct 23 2022 17:24 utc | 74

jared @ 62

The impending recession will boost military service in the west.

In the USA sure, actually maybe, recruitment supposedly at an all time low. In the EU the gen x/y/z’ers are progressively the most pampered generation of pussies possible, and I say that from the tail end of the boomer generation that was pretty damn pampered itself. I forget where this was posted but these kids don’t even know how to use a can opener. Which is fine something new to learn but I get the feeling they’ll starve before making the effort to open a can of beans that doesn’t have a pop top.
The tough ones of the under 40y/o those among the working poor where I am at least, are the most cynical bunch of people you can ask for, they believe in nothing and buy nothing of the state propaganda. Sure they are pathetically misinformed but they can smell bullshit a kilometer off. So, the EU can recruit pampered pansies who buy their bullshit but can’t fight, or tough motherfuckers who won’t fight for 2022 EU state bullshit.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 23 2022 17:30 utc | 76

@YIU | Oct 23 2022 15:55 utc | 46
Cost is no object when someone else is footing the bill.

Posted by: Mary | Oct 23 2022 17:33 utc | 78

Odessa is a nice to have for Russia,but it would still be a strategic victory for Russia if it was cut off and unusable from the rest of the Ukraine. Of course it might become a US naval base on the Black Sea (not good from the Russian point of view) but could be isolated using mining etc. The other prize in the region is off shore oil and gas fields. Any number of scenarios can be imagined.
The presence of around 1/3 of the 101st is a message, not in my view real intent or capability. It is air assault (helicopters) not paras. It could be deployed very quickly. It is a potent but fragile force and not remotely large enough to hold Odessa without many other forces.
Perhaps this is the USA signalling that Odessa is off limits? Don’t know. But it may reflect on the true situation on the ground in Kherson.
This area – Kherson/Odessa has always been perhaps the critical piece of real estate in the war. I doubt Russia wants MAD over Odessa (or at all), but the presence of a US unit in Ukraine would be a significant escalation. STAVKA will be working through options.

Posted by: marcjf | Oct 23 2022 17:53 utc | 80

What are Russia’s options if the US moves its airborne forces in Romania into Odessa and establishes a US naval beach head there as well as a possible site for a Ukrainian government that must evacuate Kiev? Based on what the US has done and continues to do in Syria, this is not inconceivable.
1) Does Russia declare US troops direct combatants and attack them, risking WWIII?
2) Does it ignore them and allow a US naval presence in a traditionally Russian city on the Black Sea?
3) Does it attempt to pre-empt that move by dropping its own airborne forces into Odessa before the US gets a chance to do so?
4) ?

Posted by: Joseph Dillard | Oct 23 2022 18:00 utc | 82

Hey Eightman (60), The real “Operation Mincemeat” is what’s happening to the sons, fathers, and brothers of Ukraine in these hopeless, suicidal offensives

Posted by: FHTEX | Oct 23 2022 18:03 utc | 84

Slay a grad had a Q&A with theirs subscribers and the one question was

If the Americans are stupid enough to officially enter Ukraine, do you think the Allied forces will hit them hard?
Answer
Actually, that might happen. But we don’t expect conflict. More like Syria type of scenario. Entry may happen in the situation where Kiev lost too much ground.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 18:05 utc | 86

Slavyangrad ……..

Posted by: Down South | Oct 23 2022 18:06 utc | 88

Calm down, everyone. The 101st is not on a new deployment. It is just their turn to be the US’s garrison in Roumania.
You really should believe anything you read in the MSM.

Posted by: Herward | Oct 23 2022 18:09 utc | 90

Marcjf (82)
Odessa’s significance lies well beyond its role as a major port city. Odessa is where over 100 peaceful, pro-Russian Yanukovitch supporters were burned alive by the Azovs in 2014. It is a city of martyrdom for which every Russian wants vengeance, starting with the pro-Azov city puppet leaders.

Posted by: FHTEX | Oct 23 2022 18:11 utc | 92

Then Monsanto, Cargill, Arch Daniels, etc. have easier access to Ukrainian land.
wagelaborer | Oct 23 2022 18:00 utc | 85
There are unused lands everywhere in Eastern Europe, right in natoland. Empty since 90s “revolutions”. Vast lands in US doing nothing too. Billy Gates buys them all to take them out of the food market, to sell his synthetic meat and bugs.
The lack of food on the planet is one of the most fake stories these days.

Posted by: rk | Oct 23 2022 18:14 utc | 94

Posted by: Ghan-buri-Ghan | 23 october 2022 17:31 UTC | 78
Add the to feminist leaders from Sweden, PM Magdalena Andersson and Minister of Foreign Affairs Ann Linde to your list!

Posted by: Northern Eve | Oct 23 2022 18:18 utc | 96

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 23 2022 15:40 utc | 40
Posted by: Ghan-buri-Ghan | Oct 23 2022 17:31 utc | 78
Great comments, thank you both.

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 23 2022 18:28 utc | 98

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 23 2022 14:31 utc | 18:
It’s how the USSR lost.
‘USA’ played a long game.
The PRC watched, learned.
They’ll play a longer game.
They know what’s at stake.
That thesis is a little too far fetch :-). Demise of the USSR has always been the goal of the west–front offices or TPTB–but one can’t rely on a long game to achieve the end game because in the course of the game too many variables can evolve astray and lead to nefarious consequences. USSR dissolved on its own failings and bureaucracy. The west did have a hand in the process, which was the soft power that was touted (first by Lee Kwuan Yew of Singapore) spreading throughout the world–movies, rock music, material/luxury consumables, etc. etc. Touting soft power was first intended to impress western domestic markets, for monetary profits and psychic control of its populations, but it surprisingly became the image builder for the “West” as a whole and as a “Concept”. Western standard of appearances became global standard of beauty; western social etiquettes and protocol became global standard of social behavior; western political correctness became global political correctness. That soft power covered up all the evil that has always been the West. It made Russians wanting to be like Americans; it still lures the Ukrainian/Bulgarians/Czechs/et al wanting to be like Americans/Europeans, so much so that it doesn’t mind ruining their own nations just for the slim chance of being admitted into EU/NATO. Sigh!!!! Western soft power is at the roots of current evil in our world, man.
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Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 23 2022 18:30 utc | 100