Rumors of Ukraine blowing up ammonia lines and blaming it on Russia. Apparently foreign journalists are being sent to the Odessa region to report on it. Journalists that are know to cover big events with evacuations and such. Sounds about right. Gotta take the attention off the ass kicking and dam story. Desperation at its finest.

Posted by: Watzov | Oct 21 2022 16:10 utc | 3

either people are aware of how false flags work, or they aren’t….
we’ve certainly been given enough examples the past number of years..

Posted by: james | Oct 21 2022 16:11 utc | 5

Every Tom, Dick, Harry and Harriet in the Western MSM now claiming that Russian Federation has mined the US Dollar and intends to blow it up on Halloween!
Must be true then …

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 21 2022 16:31 utc | 7

“EU wants to pay Ukraine 1.5 billion euros a month (for one year).
“It is very important for Ukraine to have a predictable and stable flow of income,” said EU Commission President von der Leyen after an EU summit. Accordingly, Ukraine needs three to four billion euros a month to cover its basic needs. This should be covered by the EU, the USA and the financial institutions.
“That’s why it was about 1.5 billion per month for Ukraine financed by the European Union,” von der Leyen said. The EU finance ministers are now to work out a mechanism for this.”
This “basic needs” mechanism has been requested for a long time. Back then it was about the figure of 5 billion euros per month. Originally it was also about the financing of weapon systems from the US, so that the EU should provide Ukraine with funds for leasing such weapons. At the same time, the state and thus the government in Kiev would be broken if salaries and social benefits were to be lost after insolvency. This is how you keep a morbid structure alive from the outside in an artificial and minimalist way, which at least can still keep up the fight.

Posted by: Konrad | Oct 21 2022 16:35 utc | 9

#3
I read it too:
In order to divert the attention of the world media from the possible destruction by the Ukrainian Nazis of the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, British experts from MI6 recommended Zelensky to carry out a distracting sabotage on the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline in the Nikolaev region.
The destruction of the ammonia pipeline is planned to be carried out in the Bereznegovatsky district, where more than 15 thousand people live.
The destruction of a part of the pipe is planned with the help of the S-300 air defense system. After that, the Western media will cover events to rescue the residents of nearby villages and traditionally accuse Russia of terrorism.
The preparations for a terrorist act on the ammonia pipeline are indicated by the actions of the State Service of Ukraine for Emergency Situations. In the administration of settlements of the Bereznegovatsky district, representatives of the State Emergency Service delivered memos on first aid in case of damage to hazardous chemicals.
It should also be noted that a large number of foreign journalists arrived in Nikolaev, who, according to some reports, should be involved in covering a certain emergency.
Such a strategy of action is not new. More than once, the West has been ready to sacrifice civilians to achieve its goals, especially if they are not citizens of Western countries.
The resumption of ammonia exports was part of the extension of the “grain deal”. By the way, the American company Occidental Petroleum has already paid for the next supply of ammonia.

Posted by: Nico | Oct 21 2022 16:48 utc | 11

@2
Rest assured, Russia is not going to lose now that it has at long last set up a unified command, put Surovikin (Koniev Mark II if I ever saw one) in charge, is (again at long last) systematically destroying Ukranazi infrastructure, and is now massing forces in Belarus for a serious offensive from the north. Which is a much, much better use of the mobilised forces than committing them in bits and pieces to defend Kherson and the LDNR.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 21 2022 16:57 utc | 13

The person, who is actually against the Ukraine and the Ukrainians is Zelensky. He remembers how he was treated by other kids. He was called a єврей, and was discriminated because of that. So, he is taking his revenge destroying the Ukrainian males, one way or another.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 17:08 utc | 15

The Russian language should disappear from the territory of Ukraine in general, as an element of hostile propaganda – Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Danilov
“English is obligatory, our native language is obligatory. It is very dangerous to plant these Russian narratives here. We don’t need anything from them, let them retreat to their swamps and croak in their Russian language,” Danilov said.
The answer to the Kyiv official was published by the head of the Republic of Crimea Sergey Aksyonov:
“It is not the Russian language that will disappear, but Ukraine, which is led by such characters. Danilov is a clear example of what a former Russian person can turn into, who sold his dignity and the memory of his ancestors for rotten Bandera stew.”

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15818

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 17:32 utc | 17

🇫🇷🛢🕊🇺🇸🇷🇺🇺🇦Macron criticized the US for double standards in the approach to setting the price of its gas,which is sold to Europeans 3-4 times more expensive than it costs on the domestic American market
He also plans to continue dialogue between Moscow and Kiev
According to him, this should be a topic for discussion, since “we are talking about sincerity in transatlantic trade.” “I intend to raise this issue during my visit to the United States in December,” the French president said.
French President Emmanuel Macron plans to continue dialogue with Moscow and Kiev to bring the start of negotiations between the two sides closer.
“We cannot decide for Ukraine at what point it should start negotiations with Russia, but we must continue the dialogue with each of the parties,” Macron said. “This is necessary, because at some point they will have to sit down at the negotiating table.”

https://t.me/azmilitary11/26276

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 17:35 utc | 19

uncensored | Oct 21 2022 17:34 utc | 19
Stop spamming your mythology website here and “forgetting to add” it in every post.

Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 21 2022 17:45 utc | 21

Residents of the Belgorod region will be temporarily relocated to a sanatorium in the Moscow region
Residents of border areas who wish to avoid shelling from the Ukrainian side can temporarily live in the Moscow region.
“The request of residents of the border areas and the city of Belgorod for temporary resettlement will be satisfied. The Moscow region is already ready to accept 500 Belgorod residents on the territory of one of the sanatoriums. We are ready to provide transport. Meals and accommodation on the territory of the sanatorium will also be free. When the operational situation allows, we will bring the residents back,” Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov said.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15820

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 17:50 utc | 23

Interesting times.
When listening to the latest MOD briefing. I noted the comments that on a tactical level 33 ‘himars shells’ were intercepted. Only one got through, killing three civilians and injuring another 12.
Mind you the usual batch of denialati/trolls keep telling us the exact opposite. Using the usual 2% mixed well with ‘z’ grade poopaganda.
In short, given the attack spread. The well-trained RF soldiers on the ground are doing a fairly impressive job.
When compared to the poorly trained USSA troopers “Stormin’ Norman” gas bagger era! Where even the USSN NAVY targeted and deliberately shot down civilian aircraft. Given the extremely poor well documented record of the so-called advanced “patriot” missiles. Back in Gulf War One. A fact that the RAF can attest to. As it was incapable of performing a simple ‘friend or foe test’. lmao
Clearly, the CIA Satellite division at Langley in the USSA. Were fully aware of the ongoing evacuation of 60K civilians moving to higher ground.
Just another war crime as is done daily by the CIA. Since foundation day.
USSA, the evil empire. “FRIEND OR FOE?”

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Oct 21 2022 18:00 utc | 25

@Posted by: Bodim.M | Oct 21 2022 15:58 utc | 2
A good parallel for this stage of the Ukrainian war is the WW2 battle of the Kursk salient, where the Soviets built a defence in depth and allowed the Germans to attack. The Germans lost a significant part of their forces in repeated attempts to break through the Soviet lines, and placed themselves in a position conducive to the very successful Soviet counter-attack.
In the north and south, the Ukrainians have left their fortified positions and are in the open, or protected by forests that are now losing their leaves. In the Kherson region they are attacking across open fields, and are taking very significant losses as well as reductions to their morale due to the repeated losses. The Russians have dug in, and are removing the civilian population to facilitate a defence in depth. At the same time they constantly disrupt the Ukrainians abilities to amass their troops through artillery, missile and drone attacks. If the Ukrainians do mount a major attack, the Russians will allow them to further expend their forces as a prelude to their own offensive – which will come when the ground has hardened, the skies have cleared and the new echelons have been added to their own forces.
Unlike in WW2 we live in an era of instant information, and therefore time tends to feel a lot slower than it would then. So we can become frustrated by things “taking too long”. This war has only been in progress for eight months, during which Russia has taken 20%+ of Ukraine geographically and the vast majority of its GDP, together with destroying huge amounts of Ukrainian military personnel and material – to the point of depleting even Western stocks. War has been typified as long periods of boredom interspersed with weeks of intense action. Come late November, the latter will be on the table.
Fighting the whole West, Russia also needs to be extremely careful to keep the “Rest” on board with the nature of its operations in Ukraine. It has been greatly successful in this, firstly with the “Rest” not sanctioning Russia (heavily nullifying any impacts of sanctions), and giving the Ukraine time to display its nature to the Rest and thus providing the needed support for Russia to escalate its operations. Russia has now been reducing the water level behind the dam for days, greatly reducing the impact of any breach. If it were to be breached by Ukraine it would provide the support for Russia to significantly escalate further with respect to the Rest. President Putin is a coldly calculating individual, as his actions in Chechnya showed, so we should not put it past him to sacrifice some civilians and soldiers (much less now with the lower water level) to gain a completely free hand in Ukraine from the Rest – for example, the surrounding and sieging of Kiev and the elimination of the Ukrainian leadership. What the Western media would say about that is pretty irrelevant to Russia, what the elites of the Rest think about it is what is important.
Also, with the self-harming nature of the Western sanctions, a slower war benefits Russia as it stretches out the long depression that is taking place in Europe, and the long recession in the US. Greatly reducing the threat of Europe and creating severe political issues within European nations and between European nations.
Russia (and China and Iran) are playing the long game that is required to overcome Western hegemony without triggering WW3. It may seem needlessly slow at times, and provide much ammunition to the army of anti-Russian trolls, but it is the correct strategy.

Posted by: Roger | Oct 21 2022 18:14 utc | 27

⚡𝗟𝗮𝘁𝘃𝗶𝗮 𝗔𝗻𝗻𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝗖𝗿𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻 𝗼𝗻 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗥𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀
Latvian Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkevics has explained Riga intends to start a tough filtering of Russians living in the country by reducing permits through apparently loaded questions about Ukraine.
During checks Russians will reportedly be asked questions such asL “Whose is Crimea?” and “What is happening in Ukraine now?”, with supposedly ‘wrong’ answers denying a residence permit.
Rinkevics also explained that Riga does not intend to give asylum to those fleeing the mobilization because it believes they are only against mobilization, not against the special operation.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15825

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 18:22 utc | 29

@ Down South | Oct 21 2022 17:48 utc | 24

Finally, an appropriate literary-model for the “special relationship.”

Posted by: John Kennard | Oct 21 2022 18:27 utc | 31

The Russian strategy towards the Ukraine has been very honest and open to diplomacy with the Eu, US & NATO/West since and prior to 2014. It’s been no secret the long time policy of the USA to de-industrialize Germany and break up Russia to its sole benefit. The USA has captured western Europe, Germany has no real sovereignty as it bound to US dictates and is an occupied willing partner. The NATO attack on the Nord-Stream pipeline attack was the latest in a series of attacks on German sovereignty and the complete destruction of German Industry will soon follow. The Nord Stream attack is where Germany lost its chance to call on NATO article 5 and start war against the USA and GB…lol, not likely! The people under EU governance have no rights even if the people are mostly against the dictates of their governments, they are subjected to anti-democratic system that hold the up status quo maintaining their hegemony. The deliberate destruction of the world economy through economic warfare, the sanctions against Russia and China have benefited nobody but the Western capitalist class. This Western capitalist class are the most ignorant and selfish people where the leadership openly supports and finances the NAZI’s and Neo-fascists in the Ukraine. To create a pacified society that is completely lost in self absorbed frivolous crap, who wilfully accept their collective condition of wallowing in crap finally accept the lies because they can not bare the truth. This takes menticide, total brainwashing to believe anything from western governments. The Wests true believers propagate the big lies that become generational (false claims of democratic values & justice. Xenophobic towards ‘all other people’, false claims that Russia and China are tyranny) and the little lies such as there are no NAZI’s in the Ukraine or that Russia sabotages its own infrastructure are more easily consumed daily. The fact is Russia’s in drivers seat with this proxy war in the Ukraine, there has never been a doubt in its eventual victory. The NATO escalations within the proxy war would not change the outcome, it would only delay the result. The public in Kiev who elected Mr.Zelensky on a peace platform are beginning to see they’ve become worthless pawns in a pointless and avoidable NATO proxy war. The war profiteers have done well at the expense of all humanity. This is the natural end to American styled capitalism and dominance of the western economic order. Many people inside the belly of the American beast have lost confidence in their political leadership and the system itself. The American and Canadian public are beginning to realize how dangerous their government has become to their own well being. Mass graves of indigenous children in Canada is a truth that can not be reconciled , a more truthful view the federal government, it’s a racist tyrannical police state. As the empire now enters it terminus, Uncle Sam is dead, the US dollar will soon be worthless and the question remains, is the current leadership in the west suicidal and choose total war on Russia, China, Iran or not? How degenerate, cowardly and ignorant are they? Time will tell.

Posted by: moccasin | Oct 21 2022 18:34 utc | 33

I am nervous and frustrated watching the Russian conducting the war. They seems to be slow and passive. Currently, they are facing Ukraine attack on Kherson and its intention of blowing the reservoir.
In wars news reporting is a weapon. Consider that German media was saying that Germany had the Russians overextended and in a trap as Berlin was being surrounded in 1945.
Most consumers of media know of warfare comes from TV and movies and those tend to be marketing material for the “American way of war”.
Russia has a military tradition going back to the 1200’s. What we are seeing today is the Russians using a lot of pins, feints, tactical retreats and ‘defeat in detail’ which are long standing and proven military tactics that have always been the staple of war on the Russian steppe but don’t offer a lot of action for the camera or “gotcha moments” like a HIMARS strike.
Decimating an enemy while retreating and combat units playing meat puppet for months is simply boring but the effect is a lot of enemy resources being destroyed without putting a lot of your resources at risk.
Russia is trading space for time. Gaining territory is Bid …er Ukraines only objective while the Russians need time to rejig and organize
As far a Kherson it’s an important bridgehead over the Dnieper which would be very costly to retake. It could be the Russians want the Uke’s to believe they plan to defend Kherson to the last man in order to buy time for an orderly evacuation but I’d bet on them wanting a bridgehead to take Odessa.
Russia is fighting a war on their terms, using their strategy and tactics … not Hollywoods or Madison Avenues or NATO’s. They aren’t desperate, they fought for a century against the mongols, decades against napoleon and a recent war with Nazi Germany … most of it on the Russian steppe. Those were each the most formidable forces in the world in their day and Russia defeated them all. (Ok the Mongols just sorta lost interest but they still learned a lot fighting them) They have a they have a shit-ton of tools in their toolbox.
Chess is in their elementary school core curriculum … they teach tactics and strategy alongside reading and arithmetic. School kids in Russia know what a feint and pin are … westerners see it as a loss or mis-management.

Posted by: Dave_k | Oct 21 2022 18:48 utc | 35

New Atlas, Russian General Surovikin Speaks, Kherson Battle Looms, Drone/Missiles Strikes Continue, running time 00:28:13, rips NY Yella Cake a new one.

Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 21 2022 18:49 utc | 37

@ uncensored | Oct 21 2022 17:34 utc | 19
Hitler might have been a double agent.
But, stop using “Jew” as a derogatory term. Maybe the word you want is “criminal”.
There are good Jews and bad Jews. Like any other religion or ethnicity or tribe. If all Jewish people suddenly disappeared, the remaining “Christian” or other psychopaths would continue in their absence.
Hate the game. Hate the players. Don’t smear the 99% held hostage in the stands or watching at home.

Posted by: dfg | Oct 21 2022 18:54 utc | 39

After Z’s remarks to the EC yesterday, I’m seeing a lot of concern about the flooding that could occur if the Kakhovskaya Dam is destroyed.
Looking at images of the dam, and considering that all approaches are controlled by Russia, I’m curious about HOW this could be achieved. Considering how many HIMARS it took to put enough holes in the Antonov Bridge in Kherson to shut it down after 4-5 days of attacks, is there a missile system that can create sufficient structural damage? Or, would it require locally placed explosives?
Any weapons experts care to share their experience?
In the meantime, authorities seem to consider this a credible threat, and are managing a controlled release of water – though I can’t imagine how much time it will take to lower the reservoir by even a few feet. There do appear to be some spillways, curious how much they can help.

Posted by: LeoV | Oct 21 2022 18:56 utc | 41

🇺🇦✅ 📄 Vladimir Zelensky signed the law on voluntary military registration for women
At the same time, women who have received a medical or pharmaceutical specialty are subject to military registration of military service.

https://t.me/azmilitary11/26291

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 19:02 utc | 43

Mikhail Fridman’s son begs for Ukrainian sanctions to be lifted and renounces Russia
Alexander Ozhelsky, 22, the only son of the co-owner of Alfa Group, along with many Russian businessmen, was put on the Ukrainian sanctions list. And after that, he decided to record a video message in Ukrainian, but for some reason not in his native language, but English.
According to him, he should not be sanctioned because of his kinship with his father, and indeed he immediately left and condemned Russia after February 24 because he values freedom. But the Western version of “freedom”, as it turns out, is not particularly selective to those who desire it.
Recall that Mikhail Fridman, a Russian oligarch, former board member of Alfa Bank, and co-owner of Alfa Group, was put on sanctions lists back in February. Friedman has previously tried to buy off Western sanctions but denies it himself. No one doubted that the children of the elite would follow in their parent’s footsteps.
This is going to be so purifying to Russian society. All that is rotten will come to the surface. Cathartic.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15842

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 19:11 utc | 45

«This censorship was spread widely.»
A well known british “journalist” has recently argued passionately and enthusiastically for NATO government censorship of “journalists” like him, and he claims with satisfaction this always happened in the past (and he would know, as an insider):
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/13/online-regulation-alex-jones-us-court-fine
“There have always been Alex Joneses spreading poison from the world’s soap boxes and pavements. As a boy I used to listen to them at Speakers’ Corner in Hyde Park. We would turn away with a grimace from their rubbish, while a couple of police stood by in case of trouble. Their lies never made it into newspapers or on to the airwaves.
Free speech went only as far as the human voice could carry. Beyond that, “news” was mediated behind a wall of editors, censors and regulators, to keep it from gullible and dangerous ears. […] Justice can avenge lies – but not prevent them. […] an ex-president with a fantasy can lead followers towards a coup in the capital of world democracy. […] But if freedom is to be protected and treasured, this means the US and Europe acting in concert.”

Posted by: Blissex | Oct 21 2022 19:21 utc | 47

Posted by: Blissex | Oct 21 2022 19:21 utc | 49
typical guardian horseshit. “comment is free” lol, they don’t even allow critical comments.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 21 2022 19:33 utc | 49

Down South | Oct 21 2022 19:02 utc | 45
#HealthcareHeroes

Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 21 2022 19:41 utc | 51

After 75 yrs in the USA, the time has come for the RF and other countries, I.e. global south to request the relocation of the UN in a more neutral country.

Posted by: Why not | Oct 21 2022 19:49 utc | 53

Posted by: Why not | Oct 21 2022 19:49 utc | 55
I think that this would be a geopolitical coup and that it’s necessary for the UN to continue functioning. That’s important because it’s clear that China and Russia would prefer that it does keep functioning and the plan they put forward is essentially a return to a functional UN. I’d like to nominate Kabul as the new UN headquarters. An ancient crossroads of civilization and the UN could replace the “development” that the US performed there, which was just a washing machine for US government money. Perhaps the UN in Afghanistan would help the Afghans return to their historical implementation of Islam rather than the Wahhabist style that was brought with the CIA/KSA in the 80’s.

Posted by: Lex | Oct 21 2022 20:01 utc | 55

Regarding the destruction of the, now famous, Dam.
It’s a very big structure. As you go deeper in the water at the face of the dam, the structure gets wider and more massive.
The Soviets tended to over engineer their dams (so I’ve read), so my guess is this dam – which is containing a lot of water, is significantly over built for it’s purpose.
It seems like it would not be easy to break the dam with explosives. Especially explosives that could be delivered by a missile. So several thousand pounds of explosive would have to be floated down the reservoir – the “mines” we hear about. I suppose a large motorized torpedo might suffice ?
Doesn’t seem likely if the Russians are at all vigilant. Back in WW2, harbors used to be secured with “submarine nets” across the harbor mouth. Seems like something similar could work here. It’s hard to believe that Russia is doing nothing to defend the dam from the scale of attack that would be needed to actually damage the structure.
Of course, the sluice gates could be a target. Those would be easier to destroy, releasing water in an uncontrolled fashion. Perhaps that is the reason they are lowering the level of the Reservoir, to get the water level below the entry way of the Sluice gates.

Posted by: Dan Farrand | Oct 21 2022 20:09 utc | 57

And again….

Ukraine bombs civilian targets in Russia – regional governor
The attack destroyed a school, a kindergarten and private houses, he claims

https://swentr.site/russia/565115-kiev-strikes-belgorod-russia/
LOL how do Russia think it could protect Kherson if they cant even protect Russia proper?

Posted by: Zanon | Oct 21 2022 20:11 utc | 59

Posted by: uncensored | Oct 21 2022 17:34 utc | 19
I think it is high time that revolting posts against Jews, such as that one, move to sites where Jew-hating is accepted.
At MoA it should not be.
I am deeply offended by the anti-Jew comments that have found a place here. They are nothing but hatred, pure poison; they are not founded on anything but hatred. Hatred has no place among decent human beings, and this is supposed to be a place where such come together to discuss, disagree but always to honestly seek the truth. Enough of the Jew hating comments Go away, or be banned.

Posted by: JB | Oct 21 2022 20:13 utc | 61

If by chance, Rishi Sunak becomes the next UK premier, it’d be the first time, when there’d be two Indian premiers in former colonial country and the former colony, the only difference being that Rishi Sunak was born in the UK. But, to bring down the UK, you need to bring back Boris Johnsoniuk as the next UK premier.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 20:15 utc | 63

JB @ 63
Why?
Isn’t the Ukraine in a terrible trouble, because of Zelensky? Isn’t it because he is not an ethnic Ukrainian, or even Slav?

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 20:37 utc | 65

Ukraine killed 10 iranians in (most likely) Crimea

At least 10 Iranians said killed by Ukraine as Moscow-Iran arms ties seem to deepen
Ukrainian official says deaths occurred in two separate strikes, without providing more detail, following report that Iranian trainers were in Crimea to help deploy killer drones

https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-least-10-iranians-said-killed-by-ukraine-as-moscow-arms-ties-appear-to-mount/?utm_source=article_hpsidebar&utm_medium=desktop_site&utm_campaign=lapid-speaks-to-ukrainian-fm-vows-israeli-support-but-no-offer-of-weapons
As usual Russia use no friggin defense in this war. Friggin clown army!

Posted by: Zanon | Oct 21 2022 20:56 utc | 67

No, Ukraine is not in terrible trouble because of Zelensky, whatever his identity.
JB @ 68
The Ukraine is terrible trouble because of Zelensky. He refused the Minsk agreements. He bombed the Donbass continuously. He planned to make nukes. and so on, and on. He is the curse of the Ukraine. Few million Ukrainians say so. Зрозумів?

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 21:07 utc | 69

What if Poland enters the war as I read?
Russia has not enough missiles to stop Poland.

Posted by: marko | Oct 21 2022 21:12 utc | 71

marko

What can Russia do when Ukraine has limitless sources?

Russia cant do much now, as you say Ukraine have unlimited help and aid now and are very confident on their goals.
Russia on the other side, cant even protect Russia proper, evacuate when Ukrainans are coming and running low on arms and morale among their soldiers.
On top of that you have a russian oil ban coming up in december which will damage russian economy greatly. But as usual, Russia is 1 step behind and cannot do anything now, since they have not done a large offensive march for 8 months, they never will, they changed their top general some weeks back – no difference.

Posted by: Zanon | Oct 21 2022 21:19 utc | 73

marko

What if Poland enters the war as I read?

Involving Belarus was another stupid move by Russia, Belarus is an easier target for Nato to actually attack. Belarus cannot do anything in that situation and Russia cant even protect Kherson, let alone Russia proper, so they wont be able to save Belarus.
Nato just now having an exercise in Lithuania bordering Belarus and the warmongering poles have plans too.

Posted by: Zanon | Oct 21 2022 21:23 utc | 75

On western Ukraine being given to Poland with Russia’s tacit approval why would Russia want to make a rabidly antagonistic EU controlled Poland geographically and population-wise bigger and more powerful?
Germany seems done for, broken and bowed, just like Japan back in the 1980s having dared to break their prisoner of war chains and not recycle their (huge) surpluses through the USA. Those old enough certainly remember when Japan was everywhere in the news cumulating in their buying Rockefeller Center, then suddenly massive economic collapse and they’ve been bit players on the world stage since. The USA orchestrated that collapse. Others here have talked about this referencing the Plaza Accord.
Germany tried to do the same in the 1990s seeing its chance with the collapse of the USSR. German money (actually EU surpluses) industry and technology combined with Russian resources and overland access to the Chinese market was to be their chance to break their shackles and even overtake the USA. The emperor kills or is killed as they say and the emperor killed Germany. Like Japan it’s bowed for decades to come.
My guess from there the USA/UK plan is to recreate the power structure imposed on post WW2 EU that was structured around Germany and France making Poland the new industrial power and Ukraine the political center of a reorganized EU. This also makes sense as NATO power shifts eastwards toward China it must also shift geographically – Warsaw becomes Berlin, Kiev becomes Paris. Only bugaboo is this little thing called Russia that is in the way.
So, I don’t see Russia wanting Germany’s military and industrial power transferred over to a more populated, powerful and geographically bigger Poland. I have absolutely no idea what Russia plans to do about any of this serious geopolitical game that is no less ambitious and threatening than Napoleon’s or Hitler’s. Once again the West wants Russia lands its people serve no purpose. We really are on the cusp of WW3.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 21 2022 21:25 utc | 77

Are you able to understand, speaking in Russian, the pain that Russians feel?
Do you speak in russian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-r4uBFASjU

Posted by: Prio | Oct 21 2022 21:33 utc | 79

Posted by: Zanon | Oct 21 2022 21:29 utc | 80
UK did not win the falklands war easily. Lost a few large ships. Moreover I have read that the main reason they won was because France gave them the codes for the Argentinian Exocet missiles, not because France was mean and treacherous, but because the UK planned to Nuke Argentina, and France thought that was not a good idea.

Posted by: watcher | Oct 21 2022 21:42 utc | 81

Another day goes by and the Nova Khakovka dam is intact. Pretty soon the water level will be low enough to pose no meaningful threat.
Meanwhile…
Russian paratroopers completely destroyed the 1st mechanized battalion of the 28th separate mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian military in the Krivoy Rog direction
they were equipped with Macedonian and Slovenian tanks. At the disposal of RIA Novosti, unique footage of the inspection of burnt equipment appeared – immediately after the battle. On the frames, the destroyed MTLB and BRDM of the enemy.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/30666

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 21:47 utc | 83

@ Zanon | Oct 21 2022 20:11 utc | 61
LOL!! Your humor has grown on me.

Posted by: dfg | Oct 21 2022 21:54 utc | 85

Case in point is also to block comments like #87.
Driveby comments by Yes-man-denial-trolls.

Posted by: Zanon | Oct 21 2022 21:57 utc | 87

Posted by: Martina | Oct 21 2022 21:43 utc | 84
So far Nato has managed to avoid sending the real expensive stuff, namely tanks and jet aircraft. This is due to being able to use up the massive Warsaw pact inventories of Soviet equipment. These are running low. There were rumors that Blinken is running around South America trying to find some more Soviet equivalent equipment. Good luck with that. Even if he finds something the quantity will be negligible.
If Nato decides to send their own tanks and jets, the costs from current can easily go up 5 – 10x. There are no reasons to assume that Nato tanks or fighters will perform any better than their Soviet counterparts did. Also the Abrams and Leopard tanks are logistical nightmares to operate in a country which infrastructure is ravaged, in the case of the Abrams, they also use the gas turbine motors. This would require fuel trucks with both gas and diesel.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 22:02 utc | 89

@#69 (Zanon)
Funny, “friggin clown army” is exactly how I refer to you and the cadre of trolls who stink up the bar. And you, self-appointed five star General of the 182nd Chairborne Brigade, are the most pathetic of the bunch. You really need a new hobby, little man.

Posted by: LastLaugh | Oct 21 2022 22:04 utc | 91

All the talk of Jooz is put here to discredit MoA. I’ve seen people in the ‘outside world’ say as much. In fact, I once had a tit-for-tat exchange with one Louis Proyect on the matter in the comments at Salon, back when Greenwald was still writing there. He specifically accused MoA of being an anti-semetic website. There’s a difference between Jew and Zionist – and Zelensky and the neocons are all clearly the latter. Some of them are Jewish (ostensibly, I have no idea how they conduct their personal lives), many of them are Catholic, Protestant and agnostic, I’m certain. I’m not asking for “censorship”, but rather a firmer hand in moderating when posters are unable to articulate their points w/o old, false stereotypes.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 21 2022 22:09 utc | 93

Meanwhile, nary a peep from Israel during this whole Ukraine affair. That in itself is suspect. It’s not the ones making the loudest noise that we should be wary of …

Posted by: LastLaugh | Oct 21 2022 22:13 utc | 95

Have heard about a certain warning, the Russians cabled at Kiev and its Western curators, that they would attack the Kyiv Hydroelectric Power Plant in case of the Nova Khakovka dam’s destruction. Found some similar reading on South Front, too. Maybe that threat thwarts substantial attacks on Nova Khakovka as the KHPP’s destruction would spark an even worse torrent than in Cherson and likely separate Ukraine by heavily enlarging the Dnepr. However, cannot think of a better scenario for Western infowarriors: “Evil Russia floods Ukraine, blasting dams in Cherson and Kiev…”

Posted by: Seneschal | Oct 21 2022 22:20 utc | 97

uncensored@100…so then, going by your deductions…..the Jews occupying Palestine are descended from Greeks…doubt todays Greeks will want then back though.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 21 2022 22:39 utc | 99