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October 20, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-177
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. Please stick to the topic. The current open thread for other issues is here.
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https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15719 Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 7:18 utc | 201
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15720 Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 7:20 utc | 202 No word on Nova Kakhovka hydro reservoir. We should assume Ukraine are trying to lob explosives that way but no breach yet, and the reservoir is being emptied in a controlled manner for now. UAF striked a Dnieper crossing last night killing 5 and wounding 15 civilians. 11/12 Himars were reported shot down, but they were filled with tungsten balls. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 7:25 utc | 203 As usual, no defense by Russia put up, which leads to this:
https://swentr.site/russia/565073-kherson-crossing-shelling-ukraine/
https://t.me/intelslava/39757 Posted by: Zanon | Oct 21 2022 7:25 utc | 204
https://t.me/azmilitary11/26202 Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 7:40 utc | 205 Once the reservoir has been drained the gates will be closed and 100 000+ Russians will drive across the dry river bed. Posted by: OhhCanada | Oct 21 2022 7:47 utc | 206 The Telegraph reports:
Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2022 7:47 utc | 207 What I don’t understand is why the Russians haven’t deployed antisubmarine nets across the face of the dams Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 7:48 utc | 208 Since 2015, the main target for the Ukrainian artillery was the village transformator of Donbass areath. Now, when Russian forces are taking out the energy infrastructure of the Ukraine, suddenly the western so-called leaders and the MSM are so worried about it. For the last 7-8 years, no one cared about the people of Donbass sitting in their basements, dugouts while the so-called patriotic Ukrainians shelled them. The so-called west simply forgot about those people, women, children and old people. The Bidens, Jhonsoniuks, Scholty, Morawieckis, other than their own comfort. Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:00 utc | 209 Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:00 utc | 210 Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 8:07 utc | 210 Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 5:56 utc | 185 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 8:09 utc | 211 too scents | Oct 21 2022 7:47 utc | 208 Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 8:10 utc | 212 Right now, Zelensky is doing his best to send his army to attack in the Kherson area, just to satisfy Biden and democrats, to get them some way to get a win in the coming midterm elections. Only a fool would attack in the steppe, in these modern times, or a person, who don’t really care for his people. More i see Zelensky’s face in the TV, more I see that the guy is quite gone. Actually, I can’t stand watching his face and expressions. There’s something in his race, that says they are never loyal to the country of birth. Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:17 utc | 213 Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:17 utc | 214 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 8:52 utc | 214 Erdogan making fun of Putin Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 9:06 utc | 215 unimperator @ 215 Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 9:08 utc | 216 Right now, Zelensky is doing his best to send his army to attack in the Kherson area, just to satisfy Biden and democrats Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 9:12 utc | 217 On German TV Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 21 2022 9:42 utc | 218 Trying to comprehend all possible ‘open’ sources, I doubt that there will be any ‘dirty’ bomb as it is just a ‘conventional explosive scatter’ of a radioactive material about, not an area nuke destruction or a kilotons stuff. Posted by: whirlX | Oct 21 2022 9:44 utc | 219 Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 9:12 utc | 218 Posted by: Haassaan | Oct 21 2022 9:50 utc | 220 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 4:02 utc | 161 Posted by: CM of Berlin | Oct 21 2022 9:59 utc | 221 Right now, Zelensky is doing his best to send his army to attack in the Kherson area, just to satisfy Biden and democrats Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 21 2022 10:06 utc | 222 Erdogon making fun of Putin2.. rk said.. Precisely.. Putib1 went to Geneva a few years ago for the alleged birth of a daughter. 2 weeks later Putib2 appeared. with a new round face, no more a prominent chin, diff eyes and earlobes, a new non-Judo belly, with more hair and the loss of his old German & Judo skills.. & his wife. Old video of Put1 with late Fr. Prez. Chirac, or any old photos show a different guy to Putin2. Put’s Ghost locals call him. IMO, maybe after the failure of Putin1 to follow through after the Donbass victory in 2014, and allowing the nutto to build up, was the last straw for the Russ MIC/top dogs. Posted by: Thomas Turk | Oct 21 2022 10:23 utc | 223 Right on cue … Zel the Clown warns the West that Russia is about to destroy that dam and cause more destruction on the Ukraine people. And following that some news that Russian ship have indeed left Sevastapol harbor with wheat et al … for Syria and the like. Some 30 ships. But guess what, it’s all robbed wheat from ousted Ukrainian farmers and thus against international law and whatnot. Posted by: CM of Berlin | Oct 21 2022 10:27 utc | 224 Has RF taken Bahkmut yet? I only see 2-3 day old reports. When will it be liberated? Posted by: Al | Oct 21 2022 10:36 utc | 225 (Twitter) “This indicates sabotage by Naval Special Warfare Operators, most likely deployed by submarine.” Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 21 2022 10:36 utc | 226
Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 11:07 utc | 227 @221 Haassaan “You are an idiot.” Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 11:12 utc | 228 Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 11:12 utc | 229
NAFO HOMOs Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 11:22 utc | 229 @209 rk “They don’t do anything anywhere and you expect to have nets???” Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 11:27 utc | 230 b, I hope you realize that at least three regular posters here are part of a coordinated information warfare campaign against this site and others like it.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 11:37 utc | 231 Is Elon Musk on his way to Guantanamo? Posted by: Greg Galloway | Oct 21 2022 11:40 utc | 232 “I wouldn’t be surprised if they evacuate Belgorod next week.” Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 11:53 utc | 233 @232 Posted by: Anthony | Oct 21 2022 12:08 utc | 234 Looking at pictures of the big dam, it does hardly seem possible to get a catastrophic collapse with a 5 m tidal wave, 3 days of 1-2 m flooding in a 25 km wide zone, then 3 weeks of mud and damage repair. It is even more robust than the Crimea bridge en also modular. This would mean a much smaller tidal wave and minor flooding for a week or more mud in a 5 km wide zone. Little damage to infrastructure, just a lot of cleanup. Posted by: Rootman | Oct 21 2022 12:09 utc | 235 Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 11:37 utc | 232 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 12:16 utc | 236 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 12:16 utc | 237 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:21 utc | 237 Posted by: marko | Oct 20 2022 16:01 utc | 30 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 21 2022 12:29 utc | 238 @234 rk “Told you before it started! evacuation of Belgorod has begun:” Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 12:33 utc | 239 Misc via Telegram Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 12:38 utc | 240 Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 12:33 utc | 240 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:38 utc | 241 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 20 2022 16:46 utc | 43 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 21 2022 12:47 utc | 242 re Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:21 utc | 238 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2022 12:56 utc | 243 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2022 12:56 utc | 244 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:59 utc | 244 @7. Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 21 2022 13:06 utc | 245 The nicest thing for the UK is to wish the clown Jhonsoniuk as the next premier. Its interesting to watch the demise of the UK. Maybe they can invite the other clown Zelly as their premier. 🙂 Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 13:07 utc | 246 Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 21 2022 13:06 utc | 246 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 13:11 utc | 247 EU should use Russian frozen assets to help Ukraine, says Estonian PM, CNN reports Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 13:20 utc | 248 To which goal is not known, but maybe might be worth a discussion. Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 21 2022 13:22 utc | 249 The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is assisting Russia, Sky news whines. Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 13:27 utc | 250 Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:59 utc | 245 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 13:33 utc | 251 arch bungle@232: Posted by: morongobill | Oct 21 2022 13:38 utc | 252 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 13:33 utc | 252 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 13:48 utc | 253 Stewart Best has reported of an prophecy that depicts a nuclear event in Ukraine: Posted by: gimmeabreak | Oct 21 2022 13:49 utc | 254
So Shoigu picked up the phone this time, now the stinkers can tell us how desperate the Russians are, they’re answering the call. Posted by: Paco | Oct 21 2022 13:55 utc | 255 The general says hallo Posted by: gimmeabreak | Oct 21 2022 13:57 utc | 256 Russia also supplies more complex products to the EU markets Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 21 2022 13:59 utc | 257 Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 13:48 utc | 254 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 14:00 utc | 258 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 14:00 utc | 259
b has never deleted my anti-Zionist comments. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:06 utc | 259 “The Dnieper Hydro is higher and larger in terms of the water volume. The downstream part of Zaporozhye will be destroyed and flooded. There are hundreds of thousands of people there.” he explained (the leader of the movement We are Together with Russia, Vladimir Rogov, on the Solovyov Live television channel). ” — TASS today Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 21 2022 14:08 utc | 260 Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 13:33 utc | 252 Posted by: Gerrard White | Oct 21 2022 14:08 utc | 261 Yesterday, on a Russian TV show, the panel discussed the nuclear false flag scenario as several here and elsewhere have been discussing for some time. Posted by: gimmeabreak | Oct 21 2022 14:09 utc | 262 @Paulg | 249 Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 21 2022 14:16 utc | 263 reply to 260 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 21 2022 14:17 utc | 264 Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:06 utc | 260 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 14:20 utc | 265
Slick graphic aside, I do not believe that is what happened. The most likely explanation is that there was an underwater detonation from a placed explosive charge. Then once the gas pressure was released a dive team cut the section of the pipe to remove the evidence of what really happened. That explains the straight 90 deg cuts. Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 21 2022 14:23 utc | 266 Dungrianing @201 – The Farce is strong…” My wife and I are still tickled by that phrase. We will be borrowing it. Posted by: Paul Spencer | Oct 21 2022 14:25 utc | 267 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 14:20 utc | 266
How high on crack were you during these visions? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:29 utc | 268 Russian Defense Minister Shoigu and the US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke by phone today. They discussed the current situation in Ukraine and international security. Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 14:30 utc | 269 As reported earlier, due to the elimination of Ukrainian industry and the fact that Ukraine is no longer exporting electricity abroad, Ukraine is still able to mostly meet their domestic electricity demand with some rolling blackouts. Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 14:37 utc | 270 … Classic coordinated information war. Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 21 2022 14:37 utc | 271 Ukro attack in Kherson region. These don’t seem to get very far. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 14:46 utc | 272 Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 21 2022 14:37 utc | 272 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:51 utc | 273 Stuff that got talked about and happened: the much talked about UkroNazi August offensive was talked about and talked about for months in advance. Posted by: nwwoods | Oct 21 2022 14:52 utc | 274 Below is a posting title at ZH showing the propaganda war around the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2022 14:52 utc | 275 Are Americans getting fed up with Ukraine? Or just some Republicans? We’ll soon find out. Posted by: dh | Oct 21 2022 14:57 utc | 276 M. K. Bhadrakumar has an important column up
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 14:57 utc | 277 Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 18:37 utc | 279 Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 21 2022 15:03 utc | 278 On these slow war days, the fighting moves onto the internet. Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 21 2022 15:04 utc | 279 Reminder: Posted by: I Know Things | Oct 21 2022 15:09 utc | 280 Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:51 utc | 274 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 15:10 utc | 281 It’s still possible for European countries to receive Russian gas, if they get their act together, or do they care more for the Americans and the Ukrainians than they do their own citizens. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:10 utc | 282 SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 14:30 utc | 270 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 15:14 utc | 283 Medvedev to Musk: “See you in Moscow on the Victory Day!” Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 21 2022 15:16 utc | 284 The USA obviously doesn’t want to see Russian evidence on what the Ukrainians have been trying to do with the ZNPP in mind. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:17 utc | 285 Washington is scared of Tehran.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 15:19 utc | 286 Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 14:57 utc | 278 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 15:20 utc | 287 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:10 utc | 283 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 15:25 utc | 288 All that talk about blasting the damn dam. Did anyone consider if the NPP’s cooling depends on water from the reservoir? Maybe I missed something? Too many posts… Posted by: Moses | Oct 21 2022 15:31 utc | 289 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:51 utc | 274 Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 21 2022 15:33 utc | 290 Secretary of State Antony Blinken travelling up and down South America looking for support and Russian styled weapons for Ukraine. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:34 utc | 291 Re my (292) comment. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:35 utc | 292 @ Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 15:20 utc | 288 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 15:36 utc | 293 @ Paulg | Oct 21 2022 18:33 utc | 291 Posted by: james | Oct 21 2022 15:39 utc | 294 rk@209 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 21 2022 15:43 utc | 296 Moses no. 290 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Oct 21 2022 15:45 utc | 297 @302 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 15:59 utc | 298 If FUKUS interferes, then Ramstein and Fairford air bases, then escalation ladder after that a.k.a “c ya”. Posted by: JohninMK | Oct 21 2022 16:03 utc | 299 gimmie@255 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 21 2022 16:04 utc | 300 |
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