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October 20, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-177

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⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Situation in the #Nikolaev – #Berislav Direction by the End of 20 Oct 2022⚡️
#Nikolaev – #Berislav Area:
▪️ The AFU continue redeploying forces and equipment to the settlements near the line of contact. Two Osa surface-to-air missile systems are deployed near of #Luparevo and #Lymanov.
▪️ Reconnaissance drones such as Leleka-100 and Furia are active for the second day in the #Aleksandrovka sector.
▪️ Crews of self-propelled howitzers conduct harassing fire on Russian positions in Ternovye Pody, #Pravdino and #Aleksandrovka and are corrected by UAV operators.
▪️ In the #Snigirovka section, the 105th Battalion of the 63rd Mechanized Brigade of the AFU Reserve Corps shells Russian positions along the line of contact with 82mm mortars from positions in #Kvitnevy and #Kiselevka.
#Andreevka – #Berislav Sector:
▪️ The AFU is restoring the combat capability their units after the failed offensive on 19 October.
▪️ According to confirmed reports, the 28th Mechanized Brigade, 60th Separate Infantry Brigade and 17th Tank Brigade lost 90 killed and wounded in yesterday’s fighting (14 non-returned and 76 injured of varying severity).
▪️ The command of the 17th Tank Brigade withdrew two assault groups and surviving armoured vehicles from Novaya Kamenka to #Ukrainka to be manned with mobilised civilians.
▪️ Meanwhile, the enemy continues to prepare for another offensive on the #Sukhanovo – #Polyanka line. A combined grouping of the 60th Separate Infantry Brigade and 17th Tank Brigade of the AFU has been moved to the vicinity of #Novogrigorovka.
▪️ In addition, 70 men from the 128th Separate Mountain Assault Brigade of the AFU have arrived in #Novovoskresenskoye. The reinforcements will be part of a combined grouping for an offensive in the #Berislav area.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15719

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 7:18 utc | 201

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Situation in the #Zaporozhye Direction by the End of 20 Oct 2022⚡️
The AFU command of the OTG ‘Dnepr’ continues to prepare for the offensive. Additional units are being actively deployed to the forward positions.
▪️ Concentrations of personnel were spotted near #Zaporozhye and on the border of #Dnipropetrovsk, #Donetsk and #Zaporozhye regions near the settlement of #Novogeorgievka.
▪️ In recent days, the enemy has increased its reconnaissance activities using UAVs. The AFU systematically conduct sorties to Russian positions and “probing” the Russian defences.
▪️ Assault units of the 65th AFU Mechanized Brigade conducted a reconnaissance battle in the #Orekhov sector. The attack was repulsed and the Ukrainian formations retreated to their initial positions. Regular supplies of “cannon fodder” and a significant number of foreign mercenaries have so far made it possible for losses not to matter for the time being.
▪️ Personnel of the 3rd Battalion of the 65th Mechanized Brigade of the AFU are being rotated to strongholds in the #Orekhov sector. Radio stations, fuel, lubricants and food have been delivered to the front line.
▪️ Formations of the 197th Battalion of the 124th Territorial Defence Brigade stationed in #Shcherbaki and #Kamenskoye have also been replaced. And mobilised reservists have arrived in the vicinity of #Kamyshevakha.
▪️ Along the line of contact, the AFU are firing on Russian positions. The enemy is using drones to identify artillery launch points and Russian air defence position.
▪️ An AN/TPQ-50 radar is operating in #Novoyakovlevka to conduct counter-battery warfare. Visual observation posts equipped with thermal cameras are located in #Malinovka and #Dorozhnyanka.
▪️ Ukrainian artillery and MLRS as well as tactical aviation aircraft attacked the areas of #Stepanovka and #Reshetilovka. In turn, the Russian Forces used the Geran-2 kamikaze drones to hit AFU concentrations in #Gulyaypole and #Dorozhnyanka.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15720

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 7:20 utc | 202

No word on Nova Kakhovka hydro reservoir. We should assume Ukraine are trying to lob explosives that way but no breach yet, and the reservoir is being emptied in a controlled manner for now. UAF striked a Dnieper crossing last night killing 5 and wounding 15 civilians. 11/12 Himars were reported shot down, but they were filled with tungsten balls.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 7:25 utc | 203

As usual, no defense by Russia put up, which leads to this:

Four killed in Ukrainian strike on evacuation crossing point — Kherson official
The attack was carried out with the use of US-supplied HIMARS multiple rocket launch systems, the emergencies services say

https://swentr.site/russia/565073-kherson-crossing-shelling-ukraine/
US believe Ukraine can retake Kherson and other regions coming month.

“Over the next six weeks, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have every chance to achieve success in the south and east” – The New York Times
American intelligence believes that individual units of Russia under pressure from the Armed Forces of Ukraine may fall apart, and this will allow Ukraine to regain control over Kherson and the cities of Donbass

https://t.me/intelslava/39757
Kherson will definately fall that is for sure.

Posted by: Zanon | Oct 21 2022 7:25 utc | 204

👴🇺🇸The administration of US President Joe Biden is considering the possibility of conducting an audit against American entrepreneur Elon Musk for compliance with his activities with national security interests-Bloomberg
As the agency points out, Washington is “concerned about the threats” of Musk to stop servicing the Starlink satellite communication system in Ukraine, as well as intentions, together with a group of international investors, to acquire the social network Twitter. “>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-21/us-weighs-security-reviews-for-musk-deals-including-twitter-buy

https://t.me/azmilitary11/26202

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 7:40 utc | 205

Once the reservoir has been drained the gates will be closed and 100 000+ Russians will drive across the dry river bed.
Or the overflow gates will be destroyed in the north near Kremenchuck causing 2 or 3 feet of flooding in Dnipro and Zaporizhia forcing the nazi’s to leave trenches and bunkers allowing the Russians to drive op the eastern bank and attack the Ukies who are cut of from suplies and reinforcements.
If they are doing it just to run away the war will be hard for the Russians to win.

Posted by: OhhCanada | Oct 21 2022 7:47 utc | 206

The Telegraph reports:
Nearly 1,000 Ukrainians made homeless as cost of living crisis hits host families

Nearly 1,000 Ukrainians have been made homeless as British families who offered up their houses struggle with the cost of living crisis.
New figures show 955 Ukrainian families had been made homeless under the Homes for Ukraine scheme by the end of September following its launch in February. This represents a 40 per cent rise on the 680 at the end of August.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/20/nearly-1000-ukrainians-made-homeless-cost-living-crisis-hits/

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2022 7:47 utc | 207

What I don’t understand is why the Russians haven’t deployed antisubmarine nets across the face of the dams
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 7:10 utc | 198
They don’t do anything anywhere and you expect to have nets???
They can’t even prevent strikes on convoys they’ve created “for safety”. They can’t prevent any strikes anywhere. Did you ever see Russians trying to attack the attackers of Belgorod? Did anyone see the new recruits anywhere? The government is paralyzed and they paralyze everything else, not that the army doesn’t have its own big problems anyway with the retarded generals. I wouldn’t be surprised if they evacuate Belgorod next week.

Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 7:48 utc | 208

Since 2015, the main target for the Ukrainian artillery was the village transformator of Donbass areath. Now, when Russian forces are taking out the energy infrastructure of the Ukraine, suddenly the western so-called leaders and the MSM are so worried about it. For the last 7-8 years, no one cared about the people of Donbass sitting in their basements, dugouts while the so-called patriotic Ukrainians shelled them. The so-called west simply forgot about those people, women, children and old people. The Bidens, Jhonsoniuks, Scholty, Morawieckis, other than their own comfort.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:00 utc | 209

Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:00 utc | 210
Yes, that’s right. The compelling question might be how does one ever breakthrough that level of blind spots, the entrenched cognitive dissonance and the every successful propaganda manipulation?
There seems to be at least a billion people out there, no matter what happens in Ukraine from now on, who will never change their mind or be willing to hear the truth of it.
So even if Russia and the new Russian oblasts “win” against Ukraine and Nato/US then what, because nothing much really changes anyway. The war/s will only continue and increase in intensity. It’s ‘sheer bloody-minded madness’.

Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 8:07 utc | 210

Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 5:56 utc | 185
> about to find out just how powerful israel’s 5th columnists in Russia are ..
Yep.
> Organic | Oct 21 2022 5:59 utc | 186
“put some enthusiasm into it.”
Lol. …
> Down South | Oct 21 2022 6:32 utc | 188
> Israel…Doesn’t want a hole to be punch in the hype of the “Iron Dome”.
Yep. (Same is True of some U$ weapons.
> Arrnon | Oct 21 2022 6:35 utc | 189
“Nothing makes any sense any more”.
We (they’ve) gone off script, off piste… and none of the improvisations are working.
They kicked Russia off SWIFT and went hard with sanctions firmly and absolutely believing Russia would be a smouldering broken carcass in 3months….6 at absolute tops.
Nothing nothing nothing has prepared them for Russia to prevail and Ukraine NATO to fail. It’s October and there’s no EU solution to the energy deficit they created. Japan and the BoJ is failing, British pound and bonds are floundering. German industry is evaporating like a mirage … All any of them know to do is double double double down and escalate….. even as they understand every ratchet up gets closer to a MAD confrontation they know they can’t win….
Coalitions that could cooperate in the destruction of Russia, are finding little to cooperate on as they themselves are being destroyed.
Look at the French- German friction of today that both Down South and I have posted in this thread.
It doesn’t make sense because “the plan” has failed, and no one is strong enough among the mafismo to emerge as a leader….
The dogs, who were happily hunting as a pack, having forgone their Russian feats, are now ravenous, and about to turn….. someone is likely to be eaten….Bulgaria? Armenia? Lithuania? (None really substantial enough) Poland? Why not….well deserved….and third times a charm, right! ?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 8:09 utc | 211

too scents | Oct 21 2022 7:47 utc | 208
They can all eat cake! The Brits and the refugees from Ukraine.

Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 8:10 utc | 212

Right now, Zelensky is doing his best to send his army to attack in the Kherson area, just to satisfy Biden and democrats, to get them some way to get a win in the coming midterm elections. Only a fool would attack in the steppe, in these modern times, or a person, who don’t really care for his people. More i see Zelensky’s face in the TV, more I see that the guy is quite gone. Actually, I can’t stand watching his face and expressions. There’s something in his race, that says they are never loyal to the country of birth.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:17 utc | 213

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:17 utc | 214
Samuel Ramani (pro US twitter account) picked up the Russian TV claim on Ukrainian nuke in Nikolaev and claimed it would be a Russian nuke instead. Zelensky also claimed Russia mined the dam in Kakohvka (which ukro trying to bomb).
Sure seems ominous to me. They are preparing info ground for both event.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 8:52 utc | 214

Erdogan making fun of Putin
“I saw that Mr. Putin is much softer and more open to negotiations than in the past. We will see what this can lead to in the course of telephone diplomacy, which we will hold in the coming days, after listening to both leaders.”

Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 9:06 utc | 215

unimperator @ 215
Most people, the “experts”, who write about the dam in Kakohvka or dams in particular, don’t know much about how they are built, what safeguard provisions were taken before it was built, especially on the areas below the dam. They just talk. These dams were built by the soviets, so the safety measure calculated were severe. All, the knowledge of how the water would go, if at all there was breach of the dam, or in the event of war damage is available in Moscow. Everything on soviet made infrastructure is available in Moscow archives.
Zelensky knows absolutely nothing about it, I’m sure, nor the Zaluzhny. These Soviet made structures are made to withstand nuke attacks. There’d be lot of talk about breaking that dam, but that’s mostly hot air.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 9:08 utc | 216

Right now, Zelensky is doing his best to send his army to attack in the Kherson area, just to satisfy Biden and democrats
Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:17 utc | 214
And Russia is doing their best to satisfy Biden and democrats by not doing anything for 8 months. The great fake war of 2022.

Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 9:12 utc | 217

On German TV
The attack on the dam by Russia is already being announced!
It seems one is building ahead…. to then be able to present the guilty ones!
With N1 and N2 it didn’t work so well!!

Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 21 2022 9:42 utc | 218

Trying to comprehend all possible ‘open’ sources, I doubt that there will be any ‘dirty’ bomb as it is just a ‘conventional explosive scatter’ of a radioactive material about, not an area nuke destruction or a kilotons stuff.
I also doubt that anything will happen to the Kharkiv dam.
It is just a chatter and stirring the fog of a certain purpose disinfo.
To which goal is not known, but maybe might be worth a discussion.
Ukraine is well aware that there are other dams throughout Ukraine and above Kiev too, so I doubt that have the means and a will — as it was clearly demonstrated with a Kerch Bridge electro-revenge.
I am still pretty much convinced that if anywhere a real nuke goes off, they all go at once and in all possible directions.
And this is not happening, and both sides know it.
If nothing else – Ukraine and its government is not worth it, really.
I think Ukraine will be thrown under the bus soon, anyhow.
West and NATO lost. Biggly.

Posted by: whirlX | Oct 21 2022 9:44 utc | 219

Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 9:12 utc | 218
You are an idiot.

Posted by: Haassaan | Oct 21 2022 9:50 utc | 220

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 4:02 utc | 161
In case it was missed:
SCOTT RITTER: Pipelines v. USA
Intent, motive and means: People serving life sentences in U.S. prisons have been convicted on weaker grounds than the circumstantial evidence against Washington for the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/10/12/scott-ritter-pipelines-v-usa/
German version: https://publikumskonferenz.de/blog/2022/10/20/pipelines-gegen-die-usa/

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Oct 21 2022 9:59 utc | 221

Right now, Zelensky is doing his best to send his army to attack in the Kherson area, just to satisfy Biden and democrats
Paulg | Oct 21 2022 8:17 utc | 214
And Russia is doing their best to satisfy Biden and democrats by not doing anything for 8 months. The great fake war of 2022.
Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 9:12 utc | 218
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CORRECT
And idiots are probably others here!
Biden needs success reports!
After his defeat at OPEC+ !
After fem he now throws the rest of the state reserves of oil on the US market!
US elections will be decided at gas pumps!!!
And this flooding with state reserves has the currently calm oil price to follow!
Should Putin play with this mid-election date ????
Then it would explain why civilians get out of town!
Let Ukrainians in, which is tantamount to massing troops at one point!
Then maybe? Use Tos-1, with devastating consequences!
However, the use of such weapons is only useful if troops are concentrated in a narrower area!
Would the evacuation of the city possibly explain….use the dam as an explanation and hope that the Ukraine = NATO swallow the chunk…. and since Biden is pushing in the background, maybe even with success?
NO Americans will be sacrificed and how the world will then accuse Putin, the western press will take care of that in view of the thousands of dead soldiers!
But : only one thesis !!!
In Germany, Putin is already responsible for the blowing up of the dam…. only 95% of the time this blowing up will never take place !!

Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 21 2022 10:06 utc | 222

Erdogon making fun of Putin2.. rk said.. Precisely.. Putib1 went to Geneva a few years ago for the alleged birth of a daughter. 2 weeks later Putib2 appeared. with a new round face, no more a prominent chin, diff eyes and earlobes, a new non-Judo belly, with more hair and the loss of his old German & Judo skills.. & his wife. Old video of Put1 with late Fr. Prez. Chirac, or any old photos show a different guy to Putin2. Put’s Ghost locals call him. IMO, maybe after the failure of Putin1 to follow through after the Donbass victory in 2014, and allowing the nutto to build up, was the last straw for the Russ MIC/top dogs.

Posted by: Thomas Turk | Oct 21 2022 10:23 utc | 223

Right on cue … Zel the Clown warns the West that Russia is about to destroy that dam and cause more destruction on the Ukraine people. And following that some news that Russian ship have indeed left Sevastapol harbor with wheat et al … for Syria and the like. Some 30 ships. But guess what, it’s all robbed wheat from ousted Ukrainian farmers and thus against international law and whatnot.
Meanwhile, as of October 19th, 360 ships have left the Ukrainian harbours, of which 9 (NINE) went for Africa, 7 (SEVEN) for Asia’s poorest and 1 (ONE) to Afghanistan. Yet Russia is using “hunger as a weapon”.
https://www.un.org/en/black-sea-grain-initiative/vessel-movements

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Oct 21 2022 10:27 utc | 224

Has RF taken Bahkmut yet? I only see 2-3 day old reports. When will it be liberated?

Posted by: Al | Oct 21 2022 10:36 utc | 225

(Twitter) “This indicates sabotage by Naval Special Warfare Operators, most likely deployed by submarine.”

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 4:02 utc | 161

Gotta love these not-Kearsarge theories!
Kearsarge was *definitely* in the area prior to detonation, a P8 may or not have been in the area or be a suitable delivery platform, now some-sub-or-other is “most likely” =)
Move along, nothing so see here, just heroes at work.

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 21 2022 10:36 utc | 226

🇺🇦 Ukrainian insider telegram channel:
In order to divert the attention of the world media from the possible destruction by the Ukrainian Nazis of the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, British experts from MI6 recommended Zelensky to carry out a distracting sabotage on the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline in the Nikolaev region.
The destruction of the ammonia pipeline is planned to be carried out in the Bereznegovatsky district, where more than 15 thousand people live.
The destruction of a part of the pipe is planned with the help of the S-300 air defense system. After that, the Western media will cover events to rescue the residents of nearby villages and traditionally accuse Russia of terrorism.
The preparations for a terrorist act on the ammonia pipeline are indicated by the actions of the State Service of Ukraine for Emergency Situations. In the administration of settlements of the Bereznegovatsky district, representatives of the State Emergency Service delivered memos on first aid in case of damage to hazardous chemicals.
It should also be noted that a large number of foreign journalists arrived in Nikolaev, who, according to some reports, should be involved in covering a certain emergency.
Such a strategy of action is not new. More than once, the West has been ready to sacrifice civilians to achieve its goals, especially if they are not citizens of Western countries.
The resumption of ammonia exports was part of the extension of the “grain deal”. By the way, the American company Occidental Petroleum has already paid for the next supply of ammonia.

https://t.me/intelslava/39791

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 11:07 utc | 227

@221 Haassaan “You are an idiot.”
If I were a betting man I’d say that he is Zanon.
Or at the very least I’d say he is operating from the same troll playbook as Zanon

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 11:12 utc | 228

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 11:12 utc | 229

“The North Atlantic Fellas Organization (NAFO; a play on NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) is an Internet meme and social media movement dedicated to countering Russian propaganda and disinformation about the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[1][2][3][4]”
In addition to posting irreverent commentary about the war and memes promoting Ukraine or mocking the Russian war effort and strategy (“shitposting”), the group also raises funds for the Ukrainian military and other pro-Ukrainian causes.[1][3] The representation of a NAFO “Fella” is a Shiba Inu dog, often used as an avatar and sometimes described as a “cartoon dog”[3][5] or a “group of Shiba Inu soldiers.”[6] According to The Economist, “NAFO’s flippancy obscures its role as a remarkably successful form of information warfare.”[2]

NAFO HOMOs
I think we’ve found where Don Bacon, Zanonsense, rk and the rest the cuntmonkeys of their ilk come from …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 11:22 utc | 229

@209 rk “They don’t do anything anywhere and you expect to have nets???”
Yeah, I do. Sevastopol is a navy base. A big navy base. They would have antisubmarine nets there.
“They can’t even prevent strikes on convoys they’ve created “for safety”.”
The reports say that two HIMARS launchers were used in that strike. That means 12 HIMARS rockets were launched.
Yet only four people were killed, on the one ferry.
A strike rate of 1/12 suggests that the Russians were able to affect a 90% plus intercept rate.
Not too shabby in my book. Indeed, quite effective.
Certainly firing 12 HIMARS rockets to kill four civilians seems an exceptionally poor return on investment.
But you see it different, do you? Can’t imagine why….
“They can’t prevent any strikes anywhere.”
No defence is foolproof, and the only person who would demand such is a fool.
The issue is this: Are those strikes effective? Do they materially affect the outcome?
So far Ukraine looks to be immolating its army to achieve…. what, exactly?
What Russian force has been surrounded and forced to surrender/be annihilated?
The Ukranians advance, and the Russians pull back while mowing those soldiers down.
It’s a valid tactic from the Russians, in a way that makes the Ukrainian tactics…. foolish.
And as I said: only a fool would think otherwise.
“Did you ever see Russians trying to attack the attackers of Belgorod?”
As I said: attacks have to be *effective*. How has those attacks *affected* anything?
“Did anyone see the new recruits anywhere?”
They are a different color to the rest, are they?
“The government is paralyzed and they paralyze everything else, not that the army doesn’t have its own big problems anyway with the retarded generals.”
Nice polemic. You came up with that all on your own, did you? Niiiiiiice.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if they evacuate Belgorod next week.”
Oh, again, another polemic. Niiiiiiice.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 11:27 utc | 230

b, I hope you realize that at least three regular posters here are part of a coordinated information warfare campaign against this site and others like it.
Their subtlety has increased over time, but they’ve always been obvious to people like myself.
Time to stop playing games and preserve the integrity of this blog. You know what to do.

Per The Economist, “Another popular slogan—’What air defence doing?’—pokes fun at the failure of Russian air defences to prevent an attack on Saky air base in Crimea on August 9th.”[2] The origin of the meme was a quote tweet in “dubious English”[8] by @200_zoka (with airdefense idiosyncratically combined into one word) reacting to photos of smoke billowing up from the distant airfield.[N-I 3]
German broadcaster ZDF rejects the notion that NAFO is an operation of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency; “the fact that ‘Nafo’ is financed by the CIA is just a self-deprecating joke among Twitterers.”[16]

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 11:37 utc | 231

Is Elon Musk on his way to Guantanamo?
It would sound OK since he voiced some kind of alternate opinion to the big guy’s one a few weeks before election day.
So much of a Pinochet-like behavior in the land of the braves …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Oct 21 2022 11:40 utc | 232

“I wouldn’t be surprised if they evacuate Belgorod next week.”
Oh, again, another polemic. Niiiiiiice.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 11:27 utc | 231
Told you before it started! evacuation of Belgorod has begun:
“Residents of Murom village in Belgorod, West Russia, made to leave its territory after Ukrainian forces SHELL, school, KINDERGARTEN, recreation center and private houses.”
Now go lick boots with Marty from America

Posted by: rk | Oct 21 2022 11:53 utc | 233

@232
I second this! I would consider a solitary beetle in the kitchen quite interesting and I would help him or her gently out, but should I find hundreds of beetles between the food, my tolerance would definitely crash. The troll outgrowth is such that one starts looking for the insecticide spray now.

Posted by: Anthony | Oct 21 2022 12:08 utc | 234

Looking at pictures of the big dam, it does hardly seem possible to get a catastrophic collapse with a 5 m tidal wave, 3 days of 1-2 m flooding in a 25 km wide zone, then 3 weeks of mud and damage repair. It is even more robust than the Crimea bridge en also modular. This would mean a much smaller tidal wave and minor flooding for a week or more mud in a 5 km wide zone. Little damage to infrastructure, just a lot of cleanup.

Posted by: Rootman | Oct 21 2022 12:09 utc | 235

Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 11:37 utc | 232
“Time to stop playing games and preserve the integrity of this blog. You know what to do.”
Haven’t you gotten the cancel treatment here before when you say certain things about the Zionists?

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 12:16 utc | 236

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 12:16 utc | 237
I’ve never been cancelled for talking about Zionists.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:21 utc | 237

Posted by: marko | Oct 20 2022 16:01 utc | 30
One gets arrested for ‘going equipped’, the other leaves the scene in an all-round zippered poly-tarp sleeping-bag.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 21 2022 12:29 utc | 238

@234 rk “Told you before it started! evacuation of Belgorod has begun:”
The city of Belgorod is, of course, over 20 miles from the Russian border with Ukraine. It has a population over 350,000 people.
Hold that thought……
rk “Residents of Murom village in Belgorod, West Russia, made to leave its territory after Ukrainian forces SHELL, school, KINDERGARTEN, recreation center and private houses.”
Hmmm, is that so?
Murom is a village that is less than 2 miles from the Russian border with Ukraine. It has just over 1,000 people.
So you are conflating a city that is only reachable by ballistic missile with a tiny hamlet that can easily be brought under mortar fire?
Man, that’s lame. Real, real, real lame.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 12:33 utc | 239

Misc via Telegram
Vietnam asked it’s citizens to leave ukraine
Iranian Foreign Ministry urged its citizens to refrain from traveling to Ukraine and asks Iranians staying there to leave the country
The governor of the Belgorod region Vyacheslav Gladkov announced the shelling of the village of Murom. The shelling damaged a school, a kindergarten and private houses.
US instead of threats against Saudi Arabia should lift sanctions to reduce oil prices – Turkish FM
Massive Protests in Pakistan after Pakistan’s Election Commission body disqualifies (real Prime Minister) Imran Khan from public office for 5 years.
( Opinion: post-Ukraine hot war, with an expanding WW3 or not, the world is splitting in two again, with an entrenched long term ‘cold war’ and no neutral corners. )

Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 12:38 utc | 240

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 21 2022 12:33 utc | 240
These people, rk, Done Bacon, Zanonsense, Flying Dutchfag are all liars.
That’s how they operate.
They shitpost endless streams of pseudofacts, which upon closer inspection turn out to be untruthful.
Classic coordinated information war.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:38 utc | 241

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 20 2022 16:46 utc | 43
I had just assumed it was happening from people changing their computers’ time+date, so they could be pretending to send work emails at 10pm and billing work for the overtime.
I may be getting cynical with age.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 21 2022 12:47 utc | 242

re Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:21 utc | 238
“I’ve never been cancelled for talking about Zionists.”
maybe for your homophobic / anti-gay slurs, or the misogynist remarks/vocabulary, then?
or maybe should be

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2022 12:56 utc | 243

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2022 12:56 utc | 244
Zanon
Flying Dutchman
rk
Don Bacon
michaelj72

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:59 utc | 244

@7.
The British underwater explosive drones to be used to destroy a major dam are likely the same ones that were used to destroy the pipelines.
Britain was likely also behind the attack on the Kersch bridge.
These sabotage and terrorism operations are clear acts of war and it is not in the interest of the `British people or Russia that they should be allowed to continue.
A response is needed.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 21 2022 13:06 utc | 245

The nicest thing for the UK is to wish the clown Jhonsoniuk as the next premier. Its interesting to watch the demise of the UK. Maybe they can invite the other clown Zelly as their premier. 🙂

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 13:07 utc | 246

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 21 2022 13:06 utc | 246
Is it possible that a similar drone was also used against Moskva? I always doubted that it was any aerial missile.
Sooner or later some UK navy ship might have a similar sea-faring accident.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 13:11 utc | 247

EU should use Russian frozen assets to help Ukraine, says Estonian PM, CNN reports
Estonia might cease to exist one of these days. There’s only 865 thousand Estonians in Estonia. They can, of course, emigrate to Finland, or to Biden land.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 13:20 utc | 248

To which goal is not known, but maybe might be worth a discussion.
I think Ukraine will be thrown under the bus soon, anyhow. West and NATO lost.
Posted by: whirlX | Oct 21 2022 9:44 utc | 220

There’s a lot of retired writers, many on the spectrum, others apparently soviet/ccp Pi agents, and of course the usual smattering of bored trolls whose MO dates back before Elizabethan theater.
This war was over the day VPP withstood sanctions, economic terrorism and induced social revolution; ZATO never envisioned an actual kinetic conflict. It was all about collapsing the central Russian government to allow dismemberment and resource plunder to feed the extant credit money system.
Now, the Satanic horde certainly understands the implications of loss. After all, they’re the ones who ordered the hit, as they commissioned Hubbert, club of Rome, WEF, et al and know more than any what resource depletion means.
That’s why ultimately this site is a dead end. The real action is following the emerging coalition and getting (politically, financially, operationally) involved in whichever regional theater you best fit.

Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 21 2022 13:22 utc | 249

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is assisting Russia, Sky news whines.
Exactly, Iran is waiting a chance to hit the US for a long time. It’d take any opportunity to do that. All these retired air vice marshals and other BS UK generals talk lot of hot air. Sometimes, I love to watch to dumb fools to have a laugh.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 21 2022 13:27 utc | 250

Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:59 utc | 245
I don’t know how I got on your list, but you confirm you’re a Yes-man woketard that has a list.
And you’re lying about never having comments deleted on account of “anti-semitism.” I’ve seen it.
Not that it matters. You’re a pussy coward who definitely never would lift a finger against the Zionist power.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 13:33 utc | 251

arch bungle@232:
You have really gone off the rocker accusing Don Bacon of all people of being some sort of troll. He has been posting here for years. And then running to b with your half baked theory. I am pretty sure b has enough on his plate already. Friendly advice, just stop this cancel campaign. This isn’t twitter.

Posted by: morongobill | Oct 21 2022 13:38 utc | 252

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 13:33 utc | 252
Whoowee! That sure got a rise out of you!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 13:48 utc | 253

Stewart Best has reported of an prophecy that depicts a nuclear event in Ukraine:
“In the flash vision, I was at ground level of a large, busy city full of activity. I did not know the location. Suddenly, I saw a bright flash and explosion, and then the vision ended. Today, the Lord gave me this vision again with greater detail. This time, I was taken high up into the air above the land. I still was not aware of the location. As I was looking down on the land below me, I had the view
of a large river with a very large city beside the river. This city seemed to be an important central hub, very busy with much activity taking place.
As I watched, suddenly a very bright flash appeared, and then a ball of fire erupted from the city center. While I was still up above, a sign appeared in the sky in front of me and flew right past me. As it went by, I was able to read a name on the sign – it said Dnipro
Full report here:
https://m.beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2022/10/stewart-best-10202022-nuclear-false-flag-coming-2534908.html

Posted by: gimmeabreak | Oct 21 2022 13:49 utc | 254

The phone call between U.S. defense secretary Austin and his Russian counterpart was requested by the Pentagon and lasted about an hour, a U.S. official said.

So Shoigu picked up the phone this time, now the stinkers can tell us how desperate the Russians are, they’re answering the call.
@Arch Bungle
Let them be, the more they talk the more they sink in their own filth.

Posted by: Paco | Oct 21 2022 13:55 utc | 255

The general says hallo
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/1A4xdLDsivY

Posted by: gimmeabreak | Oct 21 2022 13:57 utc | 256

Russia also supplies more complex products to the EU markets
Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 18:37 utc | 258

Duh?
150m people controlling 1/6 the earth’s land mass laden with an unimaginable wealth of natural resources.
Doesn’t anyone (out in ‘normal’ land) get the picture?
Jeez, sometimes I must really congratulate the demons on how artfully they designed their private credit money system and its insatiable need for resource driven economic “growth”.

Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 21 2022 13:59 utc | 257

Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 13:48 utc | 254
“That sure got a rise out of you!”
How much of a rise do you get when b deletes your anti-Zionist comments?

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 14:00 utc | 258

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 14:00 utc | 259

How much of a rise do you get when b deletes your anti-Zionist comments?

b has never deleted my anti-Zionist comments.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:06 utc | 259

“The Dnieper Hydro is higher and larger in terms of the water volume. The downstream part of Zaporozhye will be destroyed and flooded. There are hundreds of thousands of people there.” he explained (the leader of the movement We are Together with Russia, Vladimir Rogov, on the Solovyov Live television channel). ” — TASS today
All the time in the world. . .

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 21 2022 14:08 utc | 260

Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 13:33 utc | 252
arch bungle@232:
morongobill | Oct 21 2022 13:38 utc | 253
This is a storm in a tea cup – in group dissension precisely this is the aim and the result of trolling, when regular commentors start to imitate the language and style of propagandists and hit eachother rather than trolls, Bidens, or the rich
You are all, I take it, westies – so that you are all subject to constant trolling and propaganda from your MSM, Governments, your GatesBezosMusk etc, plus majority proportions of your fellow people who reproduce the simple stupidities they have been taught/trolled
The discipline is not to submit, or quarrel, but to fight/dismiss the trolls on this site as in every aspect of life, preferably in the streets
Hence it is necessary to do more than merely comment here, after all that’s part of the art of trolling to limit any debate/action to idle comments with no practical agenda or real world purpose – hence all the anxiety on display by many commentors merely ‘following the action’, prey to uncertainty whether ‘their side’ is winning
Adopt a more practical attitude to the organisation of resistance, information collection and spreading – the purpose of which is not endlessly to point out the feebleness of westie politics but actually to do something about correcting such
Once again – look around the world, others have and are doing it – how many were in the streets of Ouaga recently ? not millions but enough to make a difference
– you think they got ‘trolled’? Trolls are a westie vanity

Posted by: Gerrard White | Oct 21 2022 14:08 utc | 261

Yesterday, on a Russian TV show, the panel discussed the nuclear false flag scenario as several here and elsewhere have been discussing for some time.
However, on that show they said a nuclear weapon is already in Mykolaiv.
If this is accurate, our fears about an imminent nuclear false flag could soon be upon us.
Clip (with English subtitles) here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1582840182960967680
Posted by: Jax | Oct 20 2022 21:21 utc | 111
Notice that the translation is “thermonuclear” which means they are talking about a strategic H-bomb and not a small tactical nuke, can someone who speaks russian clarify this?

Posted by: gimmeabreak | Oct 21 2022 14:09 utc | 262

@Paulg | 249
About 6% of the population of Estonia is females between the age of 20-29 (so about 54,000). A quick internet search suggests that about half of that number have posed for nude photographs.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 21 2022 14:16 utc | 263

reply to 260
The absurdity continues. Ukr. attacks here and there. They are repulsed with serious losses. Meanwhile, the Russians post info on what enemy forces are getting reinforced, how much, and what new “offensives” from Ukr. are scheduled next.
The losses commonly list refurbished antique tanks and cars – and pickup trucks.
And the NYTimes talks up Ukraine chances for victory – along with hints that they think Russian troops may just run away. If you ever needed a reason to cancel your subscription, here’s another.
My only wonderment in this is, what breaks next such that Ukraine can’t go on?

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 21 2022 14:17 utc | 264

Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:06 utc | 260
“b has never deleted my anti-Zionist comments.”
Yes he has. I’ve seen it.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 14:20 utc | 265

Here’s one for the internet sleuths, engineers and assorted professionals.
Have at it:
“”NORDSTREAM SABOTAGE: Video taken of the blast site by
@ErikWiman
reveals straight-line damage caused by the exterior application of linear shaped charges. This indicates sabotage by Naval Special Warfare Operators, most likely deployed by submarine.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=p2yCqEA435o””
https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1583057058794180608
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 4:02 utc | 161

Slick graphic aside, I do not believe that is what happened. The most likely explanation is that there was an underwater detonation from a placed explosive charge. Then once the gas pressure was released a dive team cut the section of the pipe to remove the evidence of what really happened. That explains the straight 90 deg cuts.
We will likely never know what really happened unless someone involved leaks the truth in the future.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 21 2022 14:23 utc | 266

Dungrianing @201 – The Farce is strong…” My wife and I are still tickled by that phrase. We will be borrowing it.

Posted by: Paul Spencer | Oct 21 2022 14:25 utc | 267

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 14:20 utc | 266

Yes he has. I’ve seen it.

How high on crack were you during these visions?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:29 utc | 268

Russian Defense Minister Shoigu and the US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke by phone today. They discussed the current situation in Ukraine and international security.

Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 14:30 utc | 269

As reported earlier, due to the elimination of Ukrainian industry and the fact that Ukraine is no longer exporting electricity abroad, Ukraine is still able to mostly meet their domestic electricity demand with some rolling blackouts.
Minister of Energy of Ukraine: 30 to 40% of Ukraine’s entire energy infrastructure is currently affected.
In 230 days so far this year Ukraine Govt has used up what would normally be it’s annual peacetime expenditure budget.

Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 14:37 utc | 270

… Classic coordinated information war.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 12:38 utc | 242

Fair enough, there are some obvious and not-so-obvious trolls, but I wouldn’t have put rk in that list. I’ve always taken them to be pro-RF but sharply critical of Russia’s military-political leadership.
There might be exaggeration in some what they say but it often seems like valid criticism to me. Why wasn’t level reduction of at-risk dams part of SMO planning months ago. Why have Shoigu and Gerasimov been horizontally “promoted”.
Something’s at least slightly amiss, hopefully it’s in the process of being fixed because the cornered rats in all this are the US-allied Ponzi economies.

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 21 2022 14:37 utc | 271

Ukro attack in Kherson region. These don’t seem to get very far.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/30624

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 14:46 utc | 272

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 21 2022 14:37 utc | 272
It’s the repetitive, concern-trolling and repeated shitposting nature of their messages.
There’s a fine line between valid criticism and the continuous repetition of a message in order to create a narrative.
That perpetual, never ending whining about the same thing over and over again indicates a systematic method of psychological programming.
It’s not a systematic criticism that offers any value, just constant negative yammering.
If you’ve studied the MK Ultra programmes, Bernays and the CIAs propaganda methodology you begin to recognise these things.
Notice something weird? The trolls are allowed to troll forever. Just the day someone decides to make a tiny list, people go batshit insane …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:51 utc | 273

Stuff that got talked about and happened: the much talked about UkroNazi August offensive was talked about and talked about for months in advance.

Posted by: nwwoods | Oct 21 2022 14:52 utc | 274

Below is a posting title at ZH showing the propaganda war around the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant
Russia, Ukraine Accuse Each Other Of Plotting Mass Casualty False Flag Events
The article states nothing about Russia efforts to move civilians out of potential harms way

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2022 14:52 utc | 275

Are Americans getting fed up with Ukraine? Or just some Republicans? We’ll soon find out.
“I think people are gonna be sitting in a recession and they’re not going to write a blank check to Ukraine,” House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who’s favored to become House Speaker if the GOP retakes the chamber, recently told Punchbowl News. “They just won’t do it.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-yearslong-crusade-against-ukraine-212219510.html

Posted by: dh | Oct 21 2022 14:57 utc | 276

M. K. Bhadrakumar has an important column up
Ukraine war is ‘Biden’s war’ now

Biden has sent a powerful message to Britain’s political class signalling that he expects them to come up with a new prime minister who will faithfully adhere to the compass set by Boris Johnson on Ukraine. In immediate terms, what does it signal for the Anglo-American project in Kherson? Will it go ahead? That is the big question.
The situation in Kherson is assuming the nature of a large-scale military confrontation, as Zelensky is throwing everything into it in an attempt to wrest control of the strategic Kherson city, which has been under Russian control since March, before the midterms in the US. . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 14:57 utc | 277

Posted by: Down South | Oct 21 2022 18:37 utc | 279
Those are the products I think Russia should embargo now in the conflict along with oil and gas. I think the pocketbook hit to the big guys would be effective.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 21 2022 15:03 utc | 278

On these slow war days, the fighting moves onto the internet.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 21 2022 15:04 utc | 279

Reminder:
Rather too many reports of attacks that are characterized as probing action to determine information about enemy configuration. Satellite imagery will already have informed forces about the enemy in front of them. There can certainly be situations where one or two or three guys are tentative about advancing, or maneuvering, because they don’t know if there are one or two or three guys in front of them. But they should have been briefed on the presence of 10 guys in front of them, and therefore these reports of probing actions don’t make much sense. Or are insignificant.
The reports of how many enemy troops were killed during some sort of action derive from models. It’s useful to keep this in mind. Satellites are not going to be allocated to count casualties because casualties can be moved and satellite time is too useful to waste on that. The more standard way of assessing what happened as a consequence of your own artillery are the models called Artillery Effectiveness Models. The Russians will have extensive database on what sort of casualties their own artillery generates, and they will be reasonably good estimates because the database is so voluminous. In contrast, Ukrainian artillery is largely unknown to the crew. It came in from the West and probably the algorithms did not accompany it. There would be no point since those Effectiveness algorithms presumed excellent training on the part of the crew using the launcher.
So as a general matter, Ukrainian estimates of enemy casualties are not going to be very good quality, whether there is an intention to deceive or not. Conversely, the Russian estimates are probably pretty good.
One wonders about the security of the money. Enormous sums are coming into Ukraine, and one must presume that some portion of those are intended for non-military support. Should there be a military coup in Ukraine, where is that money stored? Would the new Junta have access to it?

Posted by: I Know Things | Oct 21 2022 15:09 utc | 280

Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:51 utc | 274
“Just the day someone decides to make a tiny list, people go batshit insane …”
Well, making a list and snitching to teacher is the MO of the woketards, and you’ve been following it. You genuflect even though this site censors your anti-Zionist comments. But I’m all too familiar with objectively-imperial masochist scum like you who never will fight the Antichrist.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 21 2022 15:10 utc | 281

It’s still possible for European countries to receive Russian gas, if they get their act together, or do they care more for the Americans and the Ukrainians than they do their own citizens.
“Earlier this month, Putin declared that Russia could redirect gas transit from the damaged Nord Stream pipelines to Turkey. Then he discussed the idea with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan during their face-to-face meeting in Kazakhstan’s capital, Astana. On October 14, Erdogan said the two leaders instructed relevant institutions of the two countries to quickly begin work on the idea of creating an energy hub in Turkey for gas supplies to Europe.
On October 19, Erdogan said he had reached an agreement with Putin on the gas hub, adding that Europe could start receiving Russian gas through Turkey.”
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/10/21/691337/Russia-Nord-Stream-Sabotage-Peskov

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:10 utc | 282

SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 14:30 utc | 270
“………Russian Defense Minister Shoigu and the US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke by phone today. They discussed the current situation in Ukraine and international security.””
Paco | Oct 21 2022 13:55 utc | 256
“………The phone call between U.S. defense secretary Austin and his Russian counterpart was requested by the Pentagon and lasted about an hour, a U.S. official said.
>>So Shoigu picked up the phone this time, now the stinkers can tell us how desperate the Russians are, they’re answering the call.”
Interesting. This guy. “Monkeywerx” uses open source to monitor military air traffic and other “shenanigans”.
He says there’s large movement of troops and materials within the US …..
He says 52 bombers are dispersed across the globe.
He says he’s seeing things he’s not seen before with movement and placements.
Interesting that Shoigu and Austin have spoken.
Austin was just at a NATO defence ministers meeting…which was heavy on anti Russia rhetoric….
Anyway…. Have a watch (30mins)…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcIiVbfJb3M
sitrep: Where have all the bombers gone?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 15:14 utc | 283

Medvedev to Musk: “See you in Moscow on the Victory Day!”
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/35596

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 21 2022 15:16 utc | 284

The USA obviously doesn’t want to see Russian evidence on what the Ukrainians have been trying to do with the ZNPP in mind.
“The United States blocked Russia’s participation in the international conference of the IAEA in Washington.
In accordance with the agreement between the agency and the country hosting the event under its auspices, the state is obliged to provide representatives of the IAEA member countries with the opportunity to participate in the event held on its territory, the state corporation recalled.
“Unfortunately, we are forced to state that without the adequate participation of Russia, a universally recognized world leader in the field of peaceful use of atomic energy, the Washington conference largely loses its meaning,” the statement said.”
https://ria.ru/20221021/magate-1825746547.html

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:17 utc | 285

Washington is scared of Tehran.
. . .Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby. . .

So, let’s be very clear: The United States is going to pursue all means to expose, deter, and confront Iran’s provision of these munitions against the Ukrainian people. We’re going to continue to vigorously enforce all U.S. sanctions on both the Russian and Iranian arms trade. We’re going to make it harder for Iran to sell these weapons to Russia. We’re going to help the Ukrainians have what they need to defend themselves against these threats. And we’re going to continue to stand with our partners[sic] throughout the Middle East region against the Iranian threat. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 15:19 utc | 286

Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 14:57 utc | 278
>…”Biden has sent a powerful message to……
Lol. Biden can’t find his way offstage unassisted….. he’s not sending messages, let alone “powerful” ones to anyone.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 15:20 utc | 287

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:10 utc | 283
The elephant in the room here is that the South Stream gas pipe (fed by Turkstream) will be run / runs through Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary. I.e. north/east/west EU-rope falls to the bottom of the food chain. One of EU main strategy was to block access to Hungary, Serbia and Austria gas, with the new scheme it is almost impossible.
Within the EU, the pre-mentioned countries will become more competitive and might get a share of industries in northern Europe, I mean the ones that don’t leave EU completely. Russia’s allies in EU-rope will be secure regardless.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 21 2022 15:25 utc | 288

All that talk about blasting the damn dam. Did anyone consider if the NPP’s cooling depends on water from the reservoir? Maybe I missed something? Too many posts…

Posted by: Moses | Oct 21 2022 15:31 utc | 289

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2022 14:51 utc | 274
I take your point about the style of it, and the engagement is minimal, very little discussion, which is a shame if there’s someone out there trying to share their perspective, rather than simply jam up the forum in exchange for peanuts.
Governments and other fronts for mega-wealth are throwing sponsorship money around. I would guess the blagging game offers at least a modest living to semi-articulate scribes or a very sensible retirement bonus to knowledgeable insiders who are incapable of producing original work on their own initiative and are thus reduced to a spot of rather tawdry whoring, which can always be rationalised as patriotism – ha!
Let’s see if rk can meet us half way.

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 21 2022 15:33 utc | 290

Secretary of State Antony Blinken travelling up and down South America looking for support and Russian styled weapons for Ukraine.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/10/20/john-kiriakou-the-arms-swapper/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:34 utc | 291

Re my (292) comment.
“Blinken also asked South Africa, Finland, Cambodia, Rwanda, Mexico, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Cyprus. Would they send their Russian weapons to Ukraine and take American weapons in return.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2022 15:35 utc | 292

@ Melaleuca | Oct 21 2022 15:20 utc | 288
Lol. Biden can’t find his way offstage unassisted….. he’s not sending messages, let alone “powerful” ones to anyone.
Claiming that the US president has no authority is ridiculous. Who do you claim is really the power behind the US/NATO war against Russia? Get real.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 15:36 utc | 293

@ Paulg | Oct 21 2022 18:33 utc | 291
thanks paul… very interesting seeing the street view with the folks shopping.. that is one hell of a pothole on the road a little after 4 minutes in..

Posted by: james | Oct 21 2022 15:39 utc | 294

time stamps still wonky at typepad, or just moa?

Posted by: james | Oct 21 2022 15:40 utc | 295

rk@209
You are projecting again as you happen to be the one who is mentally “paralized”, to use your own word and “retarded”. Obviously, you do not keep up with sources such as Mercuris and Ritter, but rather regurgitate those propaganda memes for which many trolls actually get paid.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 21 2022 15:43 utc | 296

Moses no. 290
Sly news today:
“Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskyy yesterday accused Russia of planning to blow-up a major dam at the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station in the occupied territory of Kherson Oblast in southern Ukraine.”
Mr Zelenskyy said Russian forces had mined the dam and parts of the power plant ahead of “a historical disaster”.
He told the European Council: “If Russian terrorists blow up this dam, more than 80 settlements, including Kherson, will be in the zone of rapid flooding.
“Hundreds of thousands of people can fall victim to it.”
I’m confused. I thought it was ukraine gonna blow it up. WTF?

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Oct 21 2022 15:45 utc | 297

@302
Yes, considering Kherson, winter is coming, and along with it will come the freezing of the Dnipro river to the point where it could be an approach for tanks in a Russian offensive to regain anything it might lose currently.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2022 15:59 utc | 298

If FUKUS interferes, then Ramstein and Fairford air bases, then escalation ladder after that a.k.a “c ya”.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 20 2022 21:06 utc | 107
Why do you keep saying those two? Ramstein yes but Fairford is empty most of the time. I would suggest Lakenheath or Mildenhall are far better.

Posted by: JohninMK | Oct 21 2022 16:03 utc | 299

gimmie@255
About that “vision” of a city being nuked and the sign that read “Dnipro”. So the lettering was quite clearly in the English version of the Latin alphabet, I take it.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 21 2022 16:04 utc | 300