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October 16, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-176
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@zanon
So, when the russians dont strike it means they are out of rockets but when they strike it means they are desperate, correct?
Posted by: Orgel | Oct 17 2022 15:36 utc | 301
Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 17 2022 14:36 utc | 289
but V Klitschko is not part of that pattern.
Fair enough. The connection is tenuous. A grandmother on the paternal side is not much.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 17 2022 15:37 utc | 302
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 15:29 utc | 299
You sound like New York Times telling us that if some civilians die the Russians are cruel and when civilians don’t die, they boast about how ineffective the weapons are.
Yeah sure, they can whine and spin all they want but the objective outcome is a major Nato pawn was removed from the board.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 15:42 utc | 303
Geran-2 motor power = 2000 Newtons × 1/15 × 50 meters/second × 1/0.5 =
13.3 kilowatts or 17.8 HP
Can you get a 18HP powerplant and 50 kg explosives for $800 ?
In either Russia or Iran or China…. including the air frame and controll system..
YES!!
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 17 2022 13:45 utc | 282
Hmmm, I can see how there could be a large market for this sort of device. One can see why this innovation makes corrupt governments paranoid.
Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 17 2022 15:46 utc | 304
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 15:42 utc | 303
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 15:29 utc | 299
You sound like New York Times telling us that if some civilians die …
What’ll be real fun to watch is what Zanonsense says when Putin wins this war and Zelensky goes the way of Saddam.
You can be sure he’ll find something to whine about even as the Russian army accepts the surrender of Kiev.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 17 2022 15:51 utc | 305
@Bad Deal Motors On | Oct 17 2022 12:28 utc | 267
Ze Gulf OF finlandius is but a small extension of the BALTIC SEA.
Go back to Oct 16 2022 16:06 utc | 56, read the quote there and try to understand how you failed by following the advice offered.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 17 2022 16:15 utc | 306
@waynorinorway | Oct 17 2022 12:45 utc | 271
LOL, Bingo.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 17 2022 16:17 utc | 307
@:tRI 290
Cheers for the investment advice. I will go stock up in Lidls now and hope to sell my portfolio of Ementhal in the spring of 2025 when all this financial uncertainty hopefully has died down.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 17 2022 16:22 utc | 308
Arch Bungle
Yes it works well, if you read my post (299) once again maybe you understand the argument.
Russia seems to have a clown intelligence too by the way, six russians arrested past days in Norway.
If they are there as agents, well it proves once again how stupid Russia act, driving around with russian car plates with photo tech in the car close to army base.
Four Russians detained in Norway for illegal photography — TV
https://tass.com/society/1523823
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 16:29 utc | 309
Orgel
Out of rockets? I do not know, I guess incompetence and fear is the reason why Russia not attack the leadership of Ukraine and win this war.
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 16:31 utc | 310
Zanon #299
After depletion of air defense they flew around kharkov and caused many deaths. It was also done during a Ukrainian attack down south. Death and horror from north to south, drone strikes, airstrikes and blood covering most of the country from east to west.
Whats enough in your eyes?
Posted by: OhhCanada | Oct 17 2022 16:40 utc | 311
Uncle Tungsten #237 referenced Larry Johnson’s latest video, but I recommend people go there to look at the Russian heavy metal being moved into Ukraine.
The 3 embedded videos show at least 40 tanks and a couple of battalions of self-propelled artillery along with the sundry supply trucks needed for industrial war
The link again:
What is Russia planning to do next – sonar21.com
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 17 2022 16:40 utc | 312
M.K. Bhadrakumar is saying flat out that the US, NATO and Ukraine are losing…
A War Russia is set to Win
While Nord Stream-1 has been crippled, one of the strings of Nord Stream-2 remains intact. Putin said last week that the pipeline could be restored and Russia could deliver about 27 billion cubic metres of gas. ‘The ball is on the side of the European Union, if they want — let’s turn on the tap,’ he said.
But mum’s the word from Brussels. It is a profoundly embarrassing moment for the EU. The triumphalism has vanished as Europe is threatened by years of recession caused by the blowback from sanctions against Russia, where the US insisted on the cut off of energy ties with Moscow. The EU has now become a captive market for Big Oil and is left to buy LNG from the US at the asking price, which is six to seven times higher than the domestic price in the US. (Contracted price for long-term Russian supply for Germany used to be about $280 per 1,000 cubic metres as against the current market price hovering around $2,000.)
Plainly put, the Europeans have been nicely played by the Americans. India should take note of the US’ sense of entitlement. Basically, the Biden administration created a contrived energy crisis whose real aim is war profiteering.
…
Russia’s retaliation against Ukraine’s ‘critical infrastructure’, something Moscow refrained from so far, has serious implications. Since October 9, Russia has begun systematically targeting Ukraine’s power system and railways. Noted Russian military expert Vladislav Shurygin told Izvestia that if this tempo was kept up for a week or so, it ‘will disrupt the entire logistics of the Ukrainian military — system for transporting personnel, military equipment, ammunition, related cargo, as well as the functioning of military and repair plants.’
The Americans are cocooned in a surreal world of their self-serving narrative that Russia ‘lost’ the war. In the real world, though, Ivan Tertel, KGB chief in Belarus, who has an insider view of Moscow, said last Tuesday that with Russia boosting its troop strength in the war zone — 3 lakh troops who have been mobilised plus 70,000 volunteers — and the deployment of advanced weaponry, ‘the military operation will enter a key phase. According to our estimates, a turning point will come in the period from November of this year to February of next year.’
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Washington has not yet thrown in the towel and the Biden administration remains obsessed with exhausting the Russian military — even at the cost of Ukraine’s destruction. And, for the Russians too, there is still much to be worked out on the battlefield: the oppressed Russian populations in Odessa (which suffered unspeakable atrocities from the neo-Nazis), Mykolaiv, Zaporizhya, Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkov are expecting ‘liberation’. It’s a highly emotive issue for Russia. Again, the overarching agenda of ‘demilitarisation’ and ‘denazification’ of Ukraine must be taken to its logical conclusion.
…
India should expect the defeat of the US and NATO, which completes the transition to a multipolar world order.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 17 2022 16:45 utc | 313
And the latest LOL:
Toilet Paper Is Going To Get Costlier, Blame Russia
A ban on Russian birch exports, whose wood consists of the short fibers that make sanitary products softer, has touched off a scramble for pulp, paper’s primary ingredient. The cascading effects are rippling around the globe in the form of slimmer, more expensive rolls of toilet paper.
Maybe that will wake up dumb Americans: toilet paper scratching their First World butts…
The opposite of a “soft landing”?
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 17 2022 16:48 utc | 314
@c1ue | Oct 17 2022 16:48 utc | 314
What is it about this toilet paper nonsense? It looks like someone is using it to measure the stupidity of the populations (as measured by toiled paper hoarding). When “Covid” hit it was also about toilet paper, it pops up every second month or so.
The psychopaths behind these schemes laugh their asses off every time they pull the toilet paper trick (“Let’s see of they buy this s**t one more time…yes!”).
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 17 2022 16:55 utc | 315
Norwegian | Oct 17 2022 16:55 utc | 315
Bidets and bumguns are good for a long position.
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 17 2022 17:16 utc | 316
OhhCanada
Russia have had no offensive march for like 3 months. Ukraine have managed to have their offensive march for over a month now and Russia is unable to stop that.
A logical point is for them to bomb the leadership of Ukraine, but they simply do not dare or being too incompetent, instead bomb electricity sites and using suicide drones against political buildings in Kiev that cause now damage to the leadership.
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 17:16 utc | 317
The work of air defense according to NATO standards in Kiev.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25596
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 17 2022 17:24 utc | 318
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 17:16 utc | 317
You’re beginning to sound more desperate and irrational than normal.
And it’s only Monday!
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 17 2022 17:39 utc | 319
Arch Bungle
Yes, exactly! Of couse anyone that look on how bad Russia is doing is desperate about what to come next. Thats the thing, you are in denial so you are not desperate. You live in a fake world because real world is too frightening for you.
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 17:46 utc | 320
⚡️ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (October 17, 2022)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
💥 The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continued launching attacks with high-precision long-range air- and sea-based armament at the military control and energy system facilities of Ukraine.
◽️ All the assigned targets have been neutralised.
💥 Russian artillery and army aviation have neutralised the manpower and military equipment of 14th and 92nd mechanised brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Sinkovka, Petropavlovsk, Peschanoye, Ivanovka and Berestovoye (Kharkov region) at Kupyansk direction.
◽️ About 160 Ukrainian personnel, 4 armoured combat vehicles, 2 artillery guns, 1 pickup and 2 motor vehicles have been eliminated.
💥 AFU battalion tactical group made an unsuccessful attempt to launch an offensive towards Stryapovka (Donetsk People’s Republic) at Lisichansk direction.
◽️ Intense action of Russian troops has resulted in driving the AFU units back to their initial positions.
◽️ Over 50 Ukrainian personnel, 6 tanks, 2 armoured combat vehicles and 4 pickups have been eliminated.
💥 Russian troops have prevented an attempt made by AFU units to break the defence near Bruskinskoye (Kherson region) at Nikolayev-Krivoy Rog direction.
◽️ Over 100 Ukrainian personnel, 13 armoured combat vehicles and 8 motor vehicles have been eliminated.
💥 Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery have neutralised 2 command posts near Dvurechnaya (Kharkov region), Drobyshevo (Donetsk People’s Republic), 39 artillery units at their firing positions, 127 manpower and military equipment concentration areas.
◽️ 6 munitions depots have been destroyed near Figolevka (Kharkov region), Verkhnekamenskoye, Soledar (Donetsk People’s Republic), Novogrigorovka (Nikolayev region), Novopetrovka and Davydov Brod (Kherson region).
◽️ 1 storage of fuel for AFU military equipment has been destroyed near Nikolayev. Moreover, 1 post for AFU armament and equipment repar works has been destroyed near Bereznegovatoye (Nikolayev region).
💥 Within the counterbattery warfare, 1 Ukrainian Smerch MLRS battery has been neutralised near Kazachaya Lopan, as well as 1 U.S.-manufactured M777 howitzer battery near Metallovka (Kharkov region).
💥 Air defence facilities have destroyed 9 unmanned aerial vehicles near Yagodnoye (Kharkov region), Pilipovka (Lugansk People’s Republic), Novosyolka, Valeryanovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Shirokaya Balka, Sukhanovo, Tomarino, Pyatikhatki and Ingulovka (Kherson region).
◽️ 21 projectiles launched by HIMARS and Olkha MLRS have been shot down near Vladimirovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Olgovka, Nikolayevka, Novaya Kakhovka, Vesyoloye and Otradokamenka (Kherson region).
◽️ Moreover, 2 U.S.-manufactured HARM anti-radar missiles have been intercepted near Antonovka (Kherson region).
📊 In total, 323 airplanes and 161 helicopters, 2,256 unmanned aerial vehicles, 380 air defence missile systems, 5,855 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 871 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,484 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 6,610 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed during the special military operation.
UAF is still attacking. Don’t seem to make too much progress. Russia changes its stance by beginning to build actual fortifications at Kupyansk-Svatovo and gradually secure flanks of the cities and settlements better. Nothing wrong with letting them bang their heads for a while. After all, all these offensives are based on Biden’s demand to help with their elections, which Zelensky is obliged to do in the hope of getting more aid.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 18:04 utc | 321
@Norwegian #315
You said
“Let’s see of they buy this s**t one more time…yes!”
I think it is more a case of “Let’s see if we can scare the shit of them them, one more time…yes!”.
And what do you need for shit?
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 17 2022 18:05 utc | 322
@Zanon #317
Bombing Ukrainian leadership would be an enormous mistake. Why replace incompetent idiots with anyone that could be actually leaders?
As for your “offensive” – sorry, but taking empty land in return for lots of dead troops and destroyed equipment is precisely the type of Twitter war nonsense to be expected from Western morons.
Every single day that goes by – Europe, the UK and the US get worse. And it is pretty much 100% because of their own actions.
Why exactly should Russia, rush it?
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 17 2022 18:07 utc | 323
@ Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 18:04 utc | 321
The great eastern offense in country 404. Is but a mere whimper.
In other news, a crowdfunding anti-drone weapon is in progress for country 404.
A cynic would say it is nothing but a fraudster dressed in sheep’s clothing. One of too little, too late.
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Oct 17 2022 20:53 utc | 325
Stand by . Russians are preparing for major offensive to begin sometime in November. The reason for all of these missile and drone strikes.
Posted by: Buford T Justice | Oct 17 2022 20:58 utc | 326
Parisian Guy #278
Accorfing to the manufacturer/seller, the rotary motor seems to have very short life. More fitted for a target drone flying for only a few minutes.
Can’t believe it made the Houthi raid which was several hundred kilometers.
Perhaps its success is in the lubricant choice? Molybdenum additive might yield sufficient friction avoidance for an hour or two. Is there a high temp teflon additive? I have no knowledge and simply assume that 3M has made something to sell in this range;)
More likely that than prayers.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 21:12 utc | 327
@Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 8:36 utc | 212
Iranians are actually Persians, whose history and culture older than Jews. The Jews had to copy Zoroastrianism to create their bible, which then was copied to create Christianity. Iran-Persia had a civilisation in the times, when the so-called Europe lived in mud huts.
Yes, I always laugh at the Western assertions that the basis of “modern” societies is Greco-Roman (Athens was never more than a small scale backwater vs. the great empires, and its so-called democracy was extremely limited in suffrage and time). The Chinese civilization goes back at least 4,000 years, with a written history, and dwarfed tiny little Athens. The modern Chinese state is a combination of historical Chinese structures and Marxist teachings, something so many westerners don’t understand.
We are seeing a global rebalancing of the past 200 years of Western dominance with the Eurasian civilizations reasserting their place in the world, with Europe turning into a nearly irrelevant backwater and the US turned into a very limited attempted offshore balancer (and even South America is seriously in question).
Norwegian #318
The work of air defense according to NATO standards in Kiev.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25596
If that is all lead based projectiles then it is in breach of European Commission guidelines and should stop immediately. At this rate the entirety of Ukraine will be declared an environmental hazard.
On that note I wonder if the NATO team have been able to empty their arsenals of all that Depleted Uranium ammo by now?
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 21:22 utc | 329
sippy the shot glass #316
“Bidets and bumguns are good for a long position.”
Good one, let me buy you a beer or vodka?
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 21:27 utc | 330
Just an oddity but I note that here we have a discussion of toilet paper and
rk | Oct 17 2022 22:07 utc | 331
seems to be pinned to the bottom (of my screen). Every time I have made a post the above rk appears below, even after refresh.
All very scatological imo.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 21:33 utc | 331
Here it is again.
Posted by: rk | Oct 17 2022 22:07 utc | 332
I will shout the bar as this is just too good.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 21:35 utc | 332
uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 21:27 utc | 330
More or less, I stole that from Mr. Lambert Strether of Naked Capitalism. Please see to his glass before mine! (But I wouldn’t fight a touch of spirit)
TypePad has apparently got a bad server with a wrong time zone. As a result of whatever the problem is, some comments get inserted with a comment time about 5 hours into the future. I haven’t seen a solid pattern of who or why it happens.
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 17 2022 21:43 utc | 333
@ Norwegian | Oct 17 2022 16:55 utc | 315
This time toilet paper factories have problems, at least in EU. a large manufacturer in Germany closed a few weeks ago. I read that all paper related product factories use lots of energy, gas. So it’s not profitable to make it anymore, better import it from somewhere where energy is very cheap, like Russia, China.
Drone strikes have resumed at this hour in Kiev. Odessa oil refinery was hit earlier.
Posted by: rk | Oct 17 2022 22:07 utc | 334
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 17:46 utc | 320
You sound like a parrot reading from a prepared script.
If the Russian frontline has crumpled then yes the Russians are failing.
But does anyone see that at all?
They are doing avery good job of holding their lines with a vastly outnumbered force against at least 150k Nazis and NATO embedded special forces.
And killing 1k Nazis a day with loss ratio of less than 15:1.
The Russians are clearly on an operational pause accumulating supplies and manpower for the next stage.
Which trollbot groups are you working for? Nazis? US? UK?
Posted by: Surferket | Oct 17 2022 22:32 utc | 335
In either Russia or Iran or China…. including the air frame and controll system..
YES!!
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 17 2022 13:45 utc | 282
NO!! NO!! NO!!
I told my opinion three times, therefore I’m right and you’re wrong.
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 17 2022 23:07 utc | 336
Perhaps its success is in the lubricant choice? Molybdenum additive might yield sufficient friction avoidance for an hour or two. Is there a high temp teflon additive?
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 21:12 utc | 327
It could be an explanation. In any case, I have doubted the story whatever the kind of motor. The drone were too small to have such a long range.
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 17 2022 23:17 utc | 337
How much does it cost to shoot down a Shahed-136 drone?
Posted by: too scents | Oct 17 2022 8:39 utc | 213
A least as much as a MIG-29
And for the Ukes even if those drones are shot down they more often than not explode on crashing. It is the perfect asymmetrical weapon. The Iranians out did themselves designing that one..
Posted by: RiNS | Oct 17 2022 23:48 utc | 338
Parisian Guy @241: “Idiot, retard, moron, dumb, stupid.”
Your self-introduction is appreciated.
“Do you have any practical knowledge of mechanics?”
A few years as a grade 12 industrial maint tech (highest grade) and a couple years building engines for a race team. A couple years designing tools and electrical components, and then a few years longer teaching washout calc (and II and III) and physics at university, with the occasional reward of teaching thermodynamics or diff-eq. Fun times!
Now I just hack code because the pay is adequate for my needs and I can do it remotely, but I have had a little experience with real engineering. I’ve also had some exposure to what is in the talent-development pipeline in the West for the engineering disciplines and what I saw was not encouraging. If America loses any more of its ability to attract international students then it is screwed… actually, it is screwed already.
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 18 2022 0:15 utc | 339
Posted by: Roger | Oct 17 2022 21:17 utc | 328
Yes, I always laugh at the Western assertions that the basis of “modern” societies is Greco-Roman
Ironically, much of the finest Greek knowledge only reached the West thanks to the work of Persian scholars (see Avicenna).
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2022 0:49 utc | 340
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 18:04 utc | 321
Thank you for posting the day’s Russian Defence Ministry report.
Posted by: David Levin | Oct 18 2022 0:49 utc | 341
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 16:29 utc | 309
Yes it works well, if you read my post (299) once again maybe you understand the argument.
I understand your argument, but it is broken. Easy to point our why:
a) You assume the Ukrainians have endless resources to just keep fixing everything, magically appearing out of nowhere at no cost and trouble.
b) You ignore the strategy of exhausting Ukrainian resources by forcing them into constant repair attempts of expensive, rare switchgear
c) You ignore the fact that diverting Ukraine’s resources to trying to maintain it’s basic utilities is a good tactic
Perhaps a career as a Swiss cheese maker is more suited to your talents?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2022 1:21 utc | 342
Rybar reports destruction of some 750K lines – which appears new and significant. This looks like a focused plan.
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 18 2022 1:32 utc | 343
via RT and chatter on sm.
Igor Lachenkov, who describes himself on social media as a “Ukrainian influencer,” told Radio NV on Friday that he had launched a crowdfunding campaign to raise 100 million Ukrainian hryvnia ($2.7 million) to purchase a radar-based “interceptor” to counter the explosives-laden drones targeting critical infrastructure across Ukraine in recent weeks.
By Saturday, Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Mikhail Fedorov announced on Telegram that the crowdfunding initiative had raised 150 million hryvnia ($4.08 million).
However, Lachenkov told Radio NV that he “cannot announce the name of the system until we buy it” for security reasons, referring to the radar-based platform only as a “Shahed Hunter.” The blogger explained that the system supposedly “intercepts” an incoming drone and raises it to a height where surface-to-air or shoulder-fired missiles can shoot it down.
Probably this ex-Australia – DroneShield
https://images.defence.gov.au/assets/Home/Search?Query=7%3AS20212105
https://www.droneshield.com/press-releases/2021-newsletter
18 Oct 2022 – DroneShield is pleased to announce it has been recommended by the U.S. DoD’s Joint Counter-small Unmanned Aircraft Systems Office (JCO) as part of the Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) joint solution for Counter-UAS as a Service (CaaS).
https://www.droneshield.com/media/press-releases
Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 18 2022 1:45 utc | 344
Possibly, but obviously not sure – back in Sept 2022
https://themarketherald.com.au/droneshield-asxdro-receives-record-2m-european-order-2022-09-01/
https://www.marketindex.com.au/news/droneshield-hits-first-million-dollar-contract-with-usd2m-deal-from-eu-govt
Unnamed EU government agency to purchase UAV detection solution from Droneshield — given Ukr not an EU govt.
Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 18 2022 1:54 utc | 345
Mykhailo Fedorov, Minister of Digital Transformation of Ukraine
Our goal is to raise 100 million hryvnias for the anti-drone system. We cannot disclose their manufacturer and name, but it will definitely help detect and destroy enemy drones. To protect our critical infrastructure objects from impacts. Such systems are in service with NATO countries.
Thanks again to everyone who donated. Thanks to you, Iranian Shaheds will soon fall more often, and the country’s critical infrastructure facilities will be more protected!
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/zedigital/2536?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 18 2022 1:59 utc | 346
anyone been tracking the numbers and regularity of military transports to china? they seem to be unreported apart from a few mentions months ago . lots more on iranian planes to RF. im sure china is low low helping with whatever is needed. production plants for drones perhaps hmmm
Posted by: hankster | Oct 18 2022 2:35 utc | 347
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 17:16 utc | 317
You are getting so fucking tiresome. How many times can you repeat yourself? Found your own country and start your own war. Simcity?
Posted by: RB | Oct 18 2022 6:24 utc | 348
Posted by: Trollplonk | Oct 17 2022 12:03 utc | 260
The repeated posts of this type may not all (giving aristodemos the benefit of the doubt) be intended to discredit MoA, but they have that effect.
Posted by: Gene Poole | Oct 18 2022 7:39 utc | 349
I believe there would be enough processing power for terrain/map matching.
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 17 2022 10:21 utc | 234
Do you think it is feasible to have a Geran-2 loiter, and if the Geran detects an active Starlink, have the Geran take the Starlink out? How much would that cost, in hardware?
Starlink
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 18 2022 8:44 utc | 350
Greg Galloway #6
As I have been saying for years the solution to the Ukraine riddle is a drive of at least 12 motorised divisions from Gomel to Mazyr then Korosten, Jitomir, Vinnitsia.
Taking Kiev too costly and destructive.
Looks good to me and I agree about driving past Kiev.
I see a rapid southerly from Brest to Khoval then skirting west of Lviv and on to Khust. Maybe simultaneous with yours to fragment the resistance. I think it is necessary to avoid enabling partition as the mongrels in pentagon will just leap on it.
All the ca[itals need to be skirted but their airports totally occupied. We do not need some dumb Berlin airlift rerun.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 18 2022 9:45 utc | 351
Posted by: hankster | Oct 18 2022 2:35 utc | 347
China makes the most chips that goes into equipment like cars, washing machines, missiles.
And refined metals and high quality magnets that military factories need.
Posted by: Surferket | Oct 18 2022 10:30 utc | 352
Posted by: Surferket | Oct 18 2022 10:30 utc | 352
China makes the most chips that goes into equipment like cars, washing machines, missiles.
Hence the auto-chip shortage that resulted from Trump’s sanction of Chinese chips (and some complications due to Covid19)
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2022 11:00 utc | 353
RT this GMT morning:
“Europe is also a much more attractive buyer for LNG suppliers than New England. According to the news outlet, while the European benchmark price for natural gas was over $100 per one million British thermal units, gas prices in New England rarely climb above $30.”
Of course. Coming Home to Roost aka Selling Out America.
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 18 2022 12:52 utc | 354
… have the Geran take the Starlink out? How much would that cost, in hardware?
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 18 2022 8:44 utc | 350
That would convert Geran into an anti-radiation loitering munition (similar to AGM-88) … perfectly plausible in theory but it’d need a new controller, to recognise and track the Starlink dish signal, then steer the drone onto the source of that signal.
Also, Geran / Shahed is a bit noisy, a quieter drone would be a better choice for loitering missions, but if the price is right maybe that’s less of a problem.
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 18 2022 13:45 utc | 355
Bryansk region was hit, there are deaths. It’s nice that after 7 months they’ve done what everyone said from the start, hit the power grid, but someone forgot to kill the nazis at the same time.
Posted by: rk | Oct 18 2022 15:52 utc | 356
rk@356…you miss the memo? It’s war, people die…..
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 18 2022 16:34 utc | 357
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15118
⚡️𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗳𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗵𝗿𝘆𝘃𝗻𝗶𝗮!
The German authorities have decided not to exchange the hryvnia for the euro anymore.
Why? This decision was made due to the fall in demand for the Ukrainian currency. Thus, the hryvnia ceases to be a convertible currency.
October 30 has been declared the last day in Germany when Ukrainians will be able to exchange their savings in hryvnias for euros.
Soon other EU countries will stop exchanging the hryvnia. If they believed in the future of the Ukrainian economy, they would not take such a step, but now everything is becoming clear.
Thus we can predict a dark future for the economy and growth of Ukraine(or whatever is left of it).
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 18 2022 16:38 utc | 358
Stoltenberg is a dangerous Quisling because he is completely owned and compromised, but he is fully responsible. He should not be allowed to get away with what he is doing.
https://t.me/IntelRepublic/7155
⚡️BREAKING NEWS⚡️
NATO needs to take seriously the risk of using nuclear weapons in Ukraine, although it is not high – NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 18 2022 16:54 utc | 359
I see Baerbock is reciting lines written for her by her overseers at Depravity Central and reported by RT. The line now: There can be no negotiations with Russia that compromise Ukraine’s territorial integrity, which includes that of Crimea’s reunification in 2014. Here’s what RT cited:
“Such naive strategies already failed in 2014, we’ve seen that the annexation of Crimea and Donbass was only a prelude to what has been happening in Ukraine ever since the 24th of February,” she claimed.
The minister called into question Russian President Vladimir Putin’s willingness to negotiate, adding that the Kremlin seems to be doubling down on brute force instead. With that in mind, “for Europe it is not about security with Putin’s Russia, for Europe it is about security from Putin’s Russia,” she noted.
“The security of the Baltic states, the security of Eastern Europe is Germany’s security,” Baerbock said in an apparent bid to illustrate Berlin’s commitment to solidarity with other European nations. She also added that Germany is going to “support Ukraine with weapons for all it takes,” pledging economic and humanitarian aid as well.
Given the actual artificial nature of the Ukrainian state, why is it so important that it remains on the map? And what’s so dangerous/wrong about Russia being made whole again with its reabsorption of lands provided for the formation of the artificial entity without the consent of those living there? For reference, here’s a map of the western part of the Russian Empire in 1914. I know this has sort of been discussed before; however, IMO the situation has changed not just with Ukraine but with NATO in its entirety now that its European members are even more colonized than ever before.
This RT item, “New stage of EU sanctions against Russia arrives amid the ongoing surrender of the bloc’s financial sovereignty to the US”, (I sure wished RT links didn’t block comments) just published on its website speaks to the increase in the EU’s colonization I referred to @360. The piece is about the latest round of illegal sanctions yet says “However, the legal basis has already been established.”
IMO, it’s well past time for the RoW to tell the West to take their illegal sanctions with them to hell. For if the RoW doesn’t, it will never become independent/free from Western hegemony. Time for China to stand up and announce: Drop your illegal sanctions or we won’t trade with you. And OPEC+ ought to echo or even jointly announce the same together with China.
@c1ue #362
But China dominates in the higher processes that produce millions of low-powered chips that go into all types of products. These are used for low pedestrian functions even if the device also needs more powerful chips to operate.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timbajarin/2021/05/13/why-trailing-edge-semiconductor-manufacturing-matters/?sh=5626d902922e
Posted by: Akash | Oct 18 2022 18:40 utc | 363
c1ue | Oct 18 2022 18:18 utc | 362
Commodity devices like four-terminal regulators, switching power supply controllers, and low-power microcontrollers make modern industry go. Reality simulators are way down the list of basic human needs.
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 18 2022 21:59 utc | 364
Norwegian | Oct 18 2022 16:54 utc | 359
Well… losing Kherson would be a big failure and more reasons for their new fake story about nukes, isn’t it? Just like in Bucha, the general staff is working for nato. Except now the failure will be much stronger because it comes after 300k joined. There is no need for ukr to enter any city, just destroying everything is winning for them.
killing people in Russia, over the border, is also winning for nato. Exploding pipes or cars or bridges is the same. And it worked so far, they’re paralyzed and with 300k more troops still retreating. Total failure coming before year ends
Posted by: rk | Oct 19 2022 5:35 utc | 365
THE EU IS FUCKED…!!
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 16 2022 12:50 utc | 5
Can I conclude from that report on Saker (for which thanks, missed it) that Germany’s only realistic possible rescue scenario this winter is NS2 because that one is fully pressurized and can remain so? Is Germany still getting gas via Ukrainian pipeline which comes from Russia?
Is Russia still in the position, in other words, of rescuing the German people and industries from the disastrous decisions made on their behalf by their ruling elites, the now infamous Satanovski 200?
maybe Twitter’s cursed, or more than obviously so.
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 16 2022 14:51 utc | 24
The name… Twit… Twitter…. Twittest…
Twitter is striving to be the twittest Twit it can possibly be.
The West is doomed! And the richest man in the world is dooming his twitterest to bring that on for each and every one of us, one Tweet at a time, soon to be linked to electronic ID and banking accounts with digital scrip and empowering/disempowering social credit scores which Twitter will excel in calculating. Don’t cancel the dissident Tweeters, just block their accounts!
More significant than it might seem in my opinion and directly related to Ukraine: “Putin Declares Martial Law in New Russian Territories Amid Kiev’s ‘Terrorist’ Shelling” reported by Sputniknews a few hours ago.
Again Russia manages to increase their escalation dominance by their (re-)action, this time very subtly and elegantly.
Do the fake “Ukrainians” understand? Do the fake “Americans”? It doesn’t matter if they don’t but I still wonder.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 19 2022 14:31 utc | 368
A little bit on the discussion about the origin of some of the drones used by Russia.
Please don’t misunderstand or take offense at this, it is meant to illustrate and raise awareness of the kind of manipulation taking place and which is so easy to overlook. I’m certain I must have done this many times myself.
Yes the negotiations were always destined (or at least incredibly likely) to fail. That’s not what this comment is about.
The following illustrates why “US” forces (likely CIA etc.) have been so keen on claiming (without evidence) that Russia is using Iranian drones in Ukraine: “Why are the US and EU Upending the Iran Nuclear Deal?”, again from Sputniknews.
Yes the topic of drones used by Russia in Ukraine is only a tiny part of the bigger picture but it’s still being (mis-)used:
“Meanwhile, the EU has threatened Tehran with a new round of sanctions. EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell, said that the bloc is currently gathering evidence to determine whether Russia is using Iranian drones to launch kamikaze-style attacks in Ukraine. The assumptions revolve around Russia’s Geran-1 and Geran-2 drones, which some Western media outlets compare to Iran’s Shahed 136 unmanned aerial vehicles. Moscow and Tehran have resolutely rejected the allegations that the weapon systems have been delivered from the Islamic Republic to Russia.”
This despite places like the Pentagon publicly saying they have no actual evidence.
Sadly if one thinks the allegations are true one’s opinion (however impartial, fair, or earnest) is in aggregate/collectively misused for this purpose. Yes it’s not much for each individual and certainly nothing to blame any individuals for, but it’s still unnecessary even if it ends up collectively being only a tiny fragment of the (non-)”justification” used for their purposes. This is an example of how —in part— the powers in “the west” build what they consider to be alibis for themselves.
In this case it’s unlikely to be particularly important in itself but it is important to be aware of.
I could easily myself have made the same assessment as to where any drones are from since to me it does not matter at all but as long as there is no kind of reliable proof or confirmation from Iran and Russia there’s no real reason to lend the notion any help.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 19 2022 15:22 utc | 369
@Akash #363
The author of the Forbes article doesn’t know shit.
The fabs that make the trailing edge chips are the fabs that used to make the leading edge chips. They are located in the US, Europe, Japan and a few elsewhere.
China has built some, but there is a reason why China is importing $200B to $300B in semiconductors every year: they consume far more than they manufacture.
China has around 170 fabs but there are 450+ in the entire world.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 19 2022 15:35 utc | 370
@sippy the shot glass #364
I fully agree.
But the reality is that there is more production, out of China, of these products than in China.
China does produce a lot, but they consume even more; what they produce is not even enough for their internal demand.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 19 2022 15:37 utc | 371