“Smart people ignoring facts about Azov, which shout in your face, are an interesting phenomena. It says a lot about the quality of information we receive from sources we deem authoritative and about confirmation bias which compels public opinion to ignore inconvenient truths.”

Ukraine’s Azov regiment celebrated May 8 2020, with a lecture by odious far right politician Yury Mikhalchyshyn on Spanish civil war, in which he extolled fascist Falangists and derided the Republicans.
https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1260123111304966144?lang=en
or https://nitter.net/leonidragozin/status/1260123111304966144?lang=en
The Cult of Roman Shukhevych in Ukraine: Myth Making with Complications
In: Fascism

” Roman Shukhevych remains a highly controversial and divisive person in Ukrainian history. A freedom fighter and martyr for Ukraine to some, a Nazi collaborator to others. Iushchenko’s decision exposed the divided and polarized historical memory in post-Soviet Ukraine. Brought to power in a wave of popular protest against a corrupt government’s falsification of elections, Iushchenko’s own term in office, from 2005 to 2010, was marred by inefficiency, infighting, and an inability to address the pressing concerns about misrule, endemic corruption, and abuse of power that had fueled the wave of popular protest that brought him to power.”
https://brill.com/view/journals/fasc/5/1/article-p26_3.xml?language=en (full text 26 May 2016 )

Reminds me of Senators John McCain and Hillary Rodham-Clinton … most folks either love ’em or hate ’em.

Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 17 2022 7:55 utc | 204

Petri Krohn | Oct 17 2022 5:46 utc | 183
The gehran-2 motor is quite different than what you suggest. It is a Iranian copy of a Chinese copy of the Limbach 550 2-stroke four cylinder aeromotor.
It is a very high output per weight engine developing ~37kW or 50HP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbach_L550E
Specific details for the Iranian version can be found here ==> https://www.uskowioniran.com/2014/11/takeaways-from-iranian-national.html
Manufacturing the engine demonstrates a competence in die-casting and CNC machining.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 17 2022 8:01 utc | 206

🇺🇸🇬🇧🇪🇺 NATO begins nuclear deterrence exercises today in the marked area
14 countries will take part in the maneuvers, up to 60 aircraft will be involved.

https://t.me/azmilitary11/25631

Meawhile Russia placed strategic nuclear bombers in Murmansk and issued NOTAMS,most likley RS-28 Sarmat will be tested soon,it should have the final testing…

https://t.me/azmilitary11/25632

Posted by: Down South | Oct 17 2022 8:17 utc | 208

Wow, if I was MBS, I’d be locking up all the bone-saws.
What does Saudi even semi-realignment do to the Saudi-Israeli relation?
And if I was a “friend and ally” of the US, and had an F-35 airfleet to show for it, and had any little disagreement with the US, I’d be mighty nervous about that fleet’s combat-performance.

Posted by: John Kennard | Oct 17 2022 8:23 utc | 210

Iranians are actually Persians, whose history and culture older than Jews. The Jews had to copy Zoroastrianism to create their bible, which then was copied to create Christianity. Iran-Persia had a civilisation in the times, when the so-called Europe lived in mud huts.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 8:36 utc | 212

@whereisit | Oct 16 2022 16:42 utc | 71
Although the current anglosaxon debating community, grassroots as well as intel, may have begun to realise that an englishman was the pathbreaker of nazism in Germany they still dont bring it up.
But an evasive maneuver to confuse the narrative by adhering to the Hitler Double agent meme might do some good from their propaganda angle.
Hitler was an object of manipulation by smarter brittons and funded by the anglosaxon banks.
The ground had been prepared for a century by anglosaxon freemasons, for whom one important role is to keep the financiers aligned with the anglosaxon empire.
Nazi Germany was partly a technological colony as was the USSR.
The logistical and other decisions about what to give priorities may have been partly a matter of business.
After all american subsidiaries in the german weapons industry had leders lojal to the US.
Even after Hitler declared war on the US the subsidiaries just had their leaders rotated from other european US-subsidiaries.
But it is obviously less complicated to continue using more of the same than to diversify which meant different fuels and changes in the production lines.
And Hitlers behaviour, to let the brits escape at Dunquerk is no mystery.
Churchill removed his support from the french and they had a deal.
In addition Samuel Hoare had been acting like a middle man in Spain at some point.
Churchill’s primary aim was to leave Hitler’s troops strong enough to go after the Soviets.
If the western war had led to too big losses Hitler might have settled for an alliance with Stalin and remained in it.
Despite having been conditioned by the british agent Houston Chamberlain to be a cruisader like the medieval Barbarossa.
Hitler was not a traitor but a dupe for the Britain he admired and wanted to be a partner of.
In 1915 the british under Churchill and Kitchener deliberately lost the battle of Gallipoli just to manipulate the Russians not make separate peace with Germany.
And Britain deliberately loosing battles in this manner also includes Norway.
Hitler seemed to believe his ancestry was non-aryan since he let the army demolish his fathers village as soon as they entered Austria.
But that doesnt mean he wouldnt selfidentify as an aryan race-patriot.
He was made to be and chosen by H Chamberlain around december 1923 to january 1924.
That dubbing of Hitler as the chosen one explains the analogy between H Chamberlain and John the Baptist.
Hitler the Messiah of the aryans.
And it was, for over a century, in large measure about maintaining anglosaxon control of banking!

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 17 2022 8:45 utc | 214

Well, if the Ukraine can use US/NATO and other unfriendly countries’ weapons, then why cannot Russia use Iranian weapons? By the way, right now the Jew Kliczko is whining a bit live.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 8:49 utc | 216

Arch Bungle #216
He must have caressed Paris:
Mass protests on the streets of Paris due to rising prices, the cost of living. The main outcome of the rallies was the declared general strike of workers from 18 October.
From https://t.me/loordofwar/53766
with vids.
The last general strike in Paris was decades ago afaik.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 9:07 utc | 218

214. Being occupied i get that japan is as helpless as germany.
https://energy.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/oil-and-gas/petronas-pipeline-leak-hit-part-of-malaysias-lng-exports-sources/94749273
Malaysia has bad luck with planes and pipes. I guess being rather honest about ZOG gets that kind of responses

Posted by: Hankster | Oct 17 2022 9:33 utc | 220

Kliczko said that Russia wants the Ukraine without the Ukrainians, that Russia is attacking the infrastructure, to make the Ukrainians live without electricity and heating. The question is, why didn’t the so-called Ukrainian government didn’t think of that before? Winter is coming, isn’t it?
Also, how many real ethnic Ukrainians are there in the Ukraine? The area of 1991 Ukraine was an artificial creation of Lenin. By the way, wasn’t Lenin a foreign agent sent to Russia to destroy it in 1917?

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 9:37 utc | 222

212 lol on any numbers, ukies and then the faithful parrot can print.
RF sent 5 drones to hit the headquarters of Ukrainergy. One was shot down and vid posted. The just omitted what was hit which that building was the control centre.
1/5 is 20% seemingly readily accepted by all so to then say 37 downed is 20% . Thats a lot of drones gettn through.

Posted by: Hankster | Oct 17 2022 9:42 utc | 224

@anon2020 | Oct 17 2022 9:34 utc | 220
We aren’t told how big the barrage was, or the loss ratio.
Undeniably a sufficient number of drones reach their targets.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 17 2022 9:47 utc | 226

What kind of idiot would use expensive engines on a suicide drone? The engine only has to function for a couple hours max, so what kind of retard would put an expensive one in there that has a duty life of thousands of hours? A properly designed engine for a disposable drone wouldn’t even need luxuries such as bearings or valve guides. The crankshaft could just run directly in the case bores, for one example of an optimization for a one-shot use engine. Designing such an engine to be thousands of times as durable as the task calls for is the sort of thing morons who gold-plate framing hammers would do. Who would be dumb enough to do such a thing in the real world?
Oh, American and European “engineers” would, particularly if they are working on a cost-plus military contract.
Well, clearly Iranian engineers are not that stupid.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 17 2022 10:04 utc | 228

Posted by: censored | Oct 17 2022 7:52 utc | 201
So much for the fable of neo-Nazi’s taking over Ukraine in a right-wing coup. The neo-Nazis just provided a smoke screen for the Jew takeover.
Why is it always assumed that the neo-nazis primary focus was just to eliminate jews? Nazis are at heart aryan white supremacists.
The linked article suggests their main objective in WW2 was to ‘cleanse'(kill or deport) a large proportion of the non-aryan population/culture in the following list of countries.
The majority of people murdered by Nazis were not Jews.
Ethnic/Nationality – % to be eliminated
Russians – Unclear
Estonians – almost 50%
Latvians – 50%
Czechs – 50%
Ukrainians – 65% to be deported from West Ukraine, 35% to be Germanized
Belarusians – 75%
Poles – 20 million, or 80–85%
Lithuanians – 85%
Latgalians – 100%
How likely is it that being jewish was a secondary attribute for being targeted. There were examples of Jews who identified as Aryan first and Jews after being accepted as Nazi officers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

Posted by: Iain | Oct 17 2022 10:15 utc | 230

Choice words and well said:

While Russia is beefing up its forces in Belarus, the Supreme Russian Commander for military operations in Ukraine, General Surovikin, made the following comment in recent days:
“I don’t want to sacrifice the lives of the Russian soldiers in a partisan war of hoards of fanatics armed by NATO.
“We’ve got enough power and technical means to lead Ukraine to total capitulation.”
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/11836
In other words, the General, knowing the capability of the forces under his command and knowing the missions he and his staff are planning for them, is confident he has the means to force the surrender of Ukraine. No mention of negotiations. The word, “capitulation” is not ambiguous in its meaning.
There is another possibility to entertain–this is an elaborate feint by Russia designed to force Ukraine to deploy already weakened forces to the northern border to defend against a possible invasion from the north. This will make it difficult, if not impossible, for Ukraine to send reinforcements to the south in a timely manner if Russia decides to launch an offensive to clear out the Donetsk Republic or attack Nikolayev.

[my emphasis on the CAPITULATION phrase]
from: https://sonar21.com/what-is-russia-planning-to-do-next/
But there is more that you may not have seen in the msm:

French officials also are voicing their unease:
Le Maire, who spoke on Monday while addressing the National Assembly, said, “The conflict in Ukraine must not end in American economic domination and a weakening of the EU.”
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The French finance minister Bruno Le Maire has warned that the United States should not be allowed to dominate the global energy market while the European Union suffers from the consequences of the conflict in Ukraine.
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He described as unacceptable that Washington “sells its liquefied natural gas at four times the price than it sets for its own industrialists,” adding that “the economic weakening of Europe is not in anyone’s interest.”

The French Parliament and government ministers are formed by the opposition party to Micron. BIG trouble unfolding in the land of the french providing they more than mere piss and wind.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 10:19 utc | 232

Posted by: too scents | Oct 17 2022 8:01 utc | 205
You must be right about the Limbach motor of the Geran-2 since I remember reading somewhere this “550” number.
Limbach motors were already used 30 years ago in ultra light planes or paraglider.
The point is the power/weight ratio (and power/size)
Peoples answered me with cheap chinese motors. But with 40 lbs and 20 inches, these 4 strokes lawnmower powerplants doesn’t fit the bill for weight and size. Furthermore I doubt they could provide the nominal power for more than a few minutes.
@Petri Krohn
Yes about the smartphone or a Raspberry. I’d been in computer vision, and I believe there would be enough processing power for terrain/map matching.
That said, some video claim a Geran attacked a vehicle. No idea about if it’s genuine and how the drone was remote driven.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 17 2022 10:21 utc | 234

Typo: should read 80 or 100 lbs instead of 40 lbs

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 17 2022 10:24 utc | 236

Come and see the little piggy….
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14897

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 10:29 utc | 238

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 10:26 utc | 236
They key problem Russia has is what to do with the Russophobic Western Ukraine.
If Russia occupies it it will lead to a decades long insurgency leading the the US goal of “bleeding the Russians”.
Don’t occupy it and on top of missiles they’ll need to deal with drones too now.
Hand it over to a third party and let them take responsibility for any actions emanating from that region?
Tough one for the Russians.

Posted by: Down South | Oct 17 2022 10:38 utc | 240

By trying knock out a kamikaze drone over the city, all you get is casualties among the civilians. It might change course after it gets hit, if it gets hit. The Ukr air defense most often misses the target and also hit a random residential building. Actually, they should try to install the air defense outside the city and try to shoot down the flying bombs, that is, if they can shoot them down. Usually, there aren’t any air raid sirens, before the first hit by the flying bomb.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 10:54 utc | 242

An interesting flight by USAF around Kaliningrad, https://www.flightradar24.com/multiview/2ddf253b

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 11:00 utc | 244

Posted by: Muthaucker | Oct 17 2022 9:41 utc | 223
Both questions are relevant.
For instance the cost for one missile of the Iron Dome system is said to be 10 000 US$. And you may need more than one to down a Geran-2.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 17 2022 11:09 utc | 246

Posted by: too scents | Oct 17 2022 9:47 utc | 226
Yes, sorry, likely more than 37 inbounds in reality. An interesting development. these Shahed / Geran drones, mid-sized ultra cheap by military standards. Thus far the targets seem to be stationary coordinates at long range so it’ll be interesting to see if there is any evolution in sensors / targeting and what other drone / counter-drone systems come into play.

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 17 2022 11:14 utc | 248

@Parisian Guy, @too scents
The delta-winged suicided drones used by Yemen to attack Saudi oil infrastructure used a Chinese MDR208 Wankel engine or its Iranian clone.

Petri Krohn @PetriKrohn on Twitter, September 19, 2019
FOUND IT! – The engine used by the #Yemen / #Houthi / #Iran delta-winged suicide drones is a Chinese MDR-208 #Wankel engine.
http://uavstar.com/Products/Engine/Engine_e.htm#MDR208

The 38 HP Chinese original was offered for sale on Alibaba for $29,000. An Iranian clone of the engine was shown in some Iranian trade fair.
The same engine was also used in Azeri drones, that crashed near Stepanakert Airport (Serial number 3139) and in Iran (Serial number 3160) in October 2020.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 17 2022 11:24 utc | 250

Both questions are relevant.
For instance the cost for one missile of the Iron Dome system is said to be 10 000 US$. And you may need more than one to down a Geran-2.
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 17 2022 11:09 utc | 246
Indeed. It is a simple Risk analysis where (Risk = Consequence x Frequency). If your risk analysis indicates that you should mitigate the Threat (defined as a function of Intent x Capability), then that mitigation strategy (shoot down drones by any means necessary) should be subjected to a cost/benefit analysis.
In the case you mentioned, if the consequence (BDA) of a successful drone strike is more than $10K or $20K, then you should mitigate the threat. The mitigation strategy itself (shoot down drones by relatively expensive SAMs) is then subjected to a cost/benefit analysis. There may be cheaper ways to mitigate the threat.
I am oversimplifiing a difficult problem to illustrate the decision making process.

Posted by: Muthaucker | Oct 17 2022 11:27 utc | 252

@Petri Krohn | Oct 17 2022 11:24 utc | 250
The rotary engine is used in the smaller Geran-1/Shahid-131 drone.
https://soldat.pro/en/2022/10/15/minoborony-ukrainy-soobshhaet-o-primenenii-vs-rossii-novyx-dronov-kamikadze-geran-1/

Posted by: too scents | Oct 17 2022 11:29 utc | 254

Iain @ 230: “There were examples of Jews who identified as Aryan first and Jews after being accepted as Nazi officers.”
Yes.
Louis Snyder, in his Encyclopedia of the Third Reich, states that Milch’s mother was Jewish.
So, Milch was Jewish and number three in the Nazi Luftwaffe.
A quote from the Encyclopedia of the Third Reich: “There was a complicating factor: Milch’s mother was Jewish, ordinarily an impossible situation for an official of the Nazi regime. Göring solved the problem by having Milch’s mother sign a legal affidavit stating that Erhard Milch was a bastard son of his father and not a child of her marriage. Milch did not object to this process of Aryanization. This was a standard procedure for Goering, who never took anti-Semitism as seriously as did the Fuehrer. Göring habitually drew non-Aryan officers (Jews) to the Luftwaffe….”
Yet, Göring accepted Milch, and other Jews, as Nazi officers.
The reason for this was that Göring, and Hitler, were Jews.
If you want to know more about it read:
From http:// pre earth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1174
REMOVE the spaces from the URL
It is interesting that all the below are German Jew names.
Number 1 of the Luftwaffe: Hitler [also Hittler Hütler Hüttler Heitler Hietler Hiettler Heftler Heutler Hautler Häutler]
Number 2 of the Luftwaffe: Göring [also Gehring Geringer]
Number 3 of the Luftwaffe: Milch

Posted by: censored | Oct 17 2022 11:40 utc | 256

My theory (with no evidence) is that Putin waits until Xi is confirmed and the conference is over and then launches a massive EMP attack on Kiev. Nobody dies but NATO totally disabled and the US has to confront the fact that they could launch one over Chicago and the place would have torn itself apart by the weekend.
Maybe while NATO comms down they take the rest of Luhansk and basically say..”these are ours, mess with them and guess where the next EMP hits

Posted by: Mark T | Oct 17 2022 11:48 utc | 258

concerned | multiple
While fringe hypotheses are generally accepted around here, you are polluting the UKRAINE thread. Please stay on topic or leave.

Posted by: Trollplonk | Oct 17 2022 12:03 utc | 260

uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 10:29 utc | 238
“Little Piggy”. Haha!! nice.

Posted by: Tim | Oct 17 2022 12:06 utc | 262

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 12:09 utc | 263
What would be useful is a systematic, quantitative analysis of how such a glaring anomaly in power hierarchy occurred in a supposed democracy.
By all laws of probability such obvious distortions in favor of a particular ethno-cultural group should never occur, all things being equal.
Unless not all tings are equal …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 17 2022 12:19 utc | 264

Most engineers would not try to save costs by eliminating valve guides in those 2 stroke motors.

Posted by: mi | Oct 17 2022 12:22 utc | 266

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 16 2022 16:06 utc | 56
PS the relatively open trackless border is marked by a few marker points. Less than 25% of the border is actively patrolled and/or contains electronic defection aides.
The Finnish–Russian border is the roughly north–south international border between the Republic of Finland and the Russian Federation. Some 1,340 km (830 mi) long, it runs mostly through uninhabited taiga forests and sparsely populated rural areas, not following any particular natural feature or river.[2] It is an external border of the European Union.
The border can be crossed only at official checkpoints, and at least one visa is required for most people. Major border checkpoints are found in Vaalimaa and Nuijamaa, where customs services on both sides inspect and levy fees on imported goods.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Oct 17 2022 12:38 utc | 268

i don’t think V. Klitschko is jewish. i don’t really care fwiw. when a boxer is jewish, it’s usually well publicised.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 17 2022 12:43 utc | 270

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 17 2022 10:04 utc | 228
The basic requirement for drones is to make them as lightweight as possible. Also with as simple a design as possible. Two stroke engines have gradually been (unfairly) discredited for use in cars, motorcycles and lawnmowers but are still used for hand-held garden tools. The power-to-weight ratio of a two-stroke is far higher than an equivalent capacity four-stroke. So the USA uses two stroke engines in their drones (Two Stroke International was one supplier), the German producer Goebler-Hirth is another. It is then not unusual at all for China or Iran or Russia, to opt for two-stroke technology.
The biggest marine diesels remain two-stroke, for their lack of complexity and immense power-to-weight. A typical 3 cylinder two-stroke has only 7 moving parts; the 3 piston + 3 connecting rods + crankshaft, so it is an ideal engine for wartime use.
During WW2, a lifesaver for the Wehrmacht was the DKW Kubus; a lightweight, portable two-stroke engine that could be carried into battle zones to offer an instant power source. Many of these units still survive…Today Honda is one of the main producers of this type of auxiliary engine – but it is a 4 stroke.

Posted by: Original Analyst | Oct 17 2022 13:01 utc | 272

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 17 2022 13:03 utc | 273
so what. one jew in the maternal line means everybody else is jewish? absurd. the family is orthodox christian. newsflash there are jewish boxing promoters, if the Klitschko brothers were jewish we would have known about it. there used to be an orthodox rabbi fighting out of New York, it was well publicized. the whole fixation on jews is ridiculous anyway. btw I’m not jewish, as far as I know, but if there were some remote ancestor that was jewish I would not care, and it wouldn’t make me jewish.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 17 2022 13:09 utc | 274

Oleksii Reznikov says the the Ukraine is getting a NASAM one of these days. Well, Iran would have a go at the NASAM too, which will be a victory for Iran.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 13:18 utc | 276

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 17 2022 11:24 utc | 250
the Limbach clone MD-550 is in the uavstar webpage you linked to.
You found it !
Accorfing to the manufacturer/seller, the rotary motor seems to have very short life. More fitted for a target drone flying for only a few minutes.
Can’t believe it made the Houthi raid which was several hundred kilometers.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 17 2022 13:24 utc | 278

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 17 2022 13:09 utc | 274

So what. one jew in the maternal line means everybody else is jewish? absurd.

Indeed. It would be absurd if this were nothing more than a jew hunt.
It’s not. It’s a weird pattern that needs some exploration.
What would be useful is a systematic, quantitative analysis of how such a glaring anomaly in power hierarchy occurred in a supposed democracy.
By all laws of probability such obvious distortions in favor of a particular ethno-cultural group should never occur, all things being equal.
Unless not all things are equal …
Maybe we can begin with a list of the Ukrainian power structure:

Viktoria Nuland – Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs of the United States
Ihor Valeriyovych Kolomoyskyi – Israeli–Cypriot billionaire, business magnate, and politician from Ukraine.
Denys Shmyhal – Prime Minister of Ukraine is Jewish, born in Lvov.
Iryna Vereshchuk – deputy PM was born in Lvov,
German Galushchenko – Minister of Energy was born in Lvov,
Oleksii Reznikov – Minister of Defenсe of Ukraine was born in Lvov,
Mykola Solsky – the Agrarian minister was born in Lvov,
Vitali Klitschko – Mayor of Kiev is Jewish, born in Belovodskoe, Kyrgyzstan.
Volodymyr Zelensky, well, is also Jewish
Victor Mykhailovych – is a Ukrainian businessman and oligarch
.
.
.

Anyone else want to play … ?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 17 2022 13:27 utc | 280

Geran-2 motor power = 2000 Newtons × 1/15 × 50 meters/second × 1/0.5 =
13.3 kilowatts or 17.8 HP
Can you get a 18HP powerplant and 50 kg explosives for $800 ?
In either Russia or Iran or China…. including the air frame and controll system..
YES!!

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 17 2022 13:45 utc | 282

… For instance the cost for one missile of the Iron Dome system is said to be 10 000 US$. And you may need more than one to down a Geran-2.
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 17 2022 11:09 utc | 246
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome

$100,000–150,000 per interception
Some estimates of the cost of a Tamir interceptor are around $100,000, but it is still 95 percent cheaper than using a MIM-104 Patriot, the primary Israeli interceptor, costing $2–3 million

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 17 2022 13:49 utc | 284

I regret that I find it necessary to take issue with many of the assertions in the Saker Essay I posted in this thread.
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 16 2022 19:13 utc | 97
Ah, I’m glad someone else has noticed that. All the comments on the saker site are glowingly adulatory comments, and it is clear that none of the commenters don’t understand. What is crystal clear is that the author himslef doesn’t have the least understanding of what he is saying himself! He is evidently mixing and matching from a few different sources – who I suspect probably do know what they are talking about – but he doesn’t understand it beyond the most superficial level, and merrily mixes statements out of context.

Posted by: BM | Oct 17 2022 13:56 utc | 286

@ william Gruff 228
My next door neighbour had his Toyota Catalytic converter stolen because apparently the eco models are gold- coated.
It cost him £1000 to replace. He is lying in wait at night to catch them a second time.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 17 2022 14:26 utc | 288

Catalysts for Toyota are not gold, but contain noble metals such as rhodium, palladium and platinum. There was an idea to replace these precious metals with Ementaler cheese, supposedly even more effective, but now Ementaler is or will be more expensive.
(Translated from Polish by Google translator)

Posted by: tRI | Oct 17 2022 14:46 utc | 290

Drone warfare and how everything old is new again. So the Geran poses severe problems for modern air defense because it doesn’t produce enough heat for MANPADS to lock on to and appears to create issues for the sophisticated missile-based air defenses as well due to a low radar cross section. That’s compounded by the cost differential and using the sophisticated systems opens them up for secondary strikes, not to mention the low cost drones being able to be used en masse to overwhelm the systems. What’s the solution?
Well, old fashioned anti-aircraft guns are probably the solution. Russia has started sending old s-60s to the field. It looks like they’re being used on ground targets, but if Ukraine responds with its own martyr drones, those AA guns will come in handy. That German unit with the cannons (can’t remember name) might work. But does Ukraine still have its very old AA guns? Not sure the west bothers with even having such tech in storage much less ready to use.

Posted by: Lex | Oct 17 2022 14:54 utc | 292

Posted by: Lex | Oct 17 2022 14:54 utc | 292
Those old S-60 towed AA guns are useful against those technical/pick-ups which mercenaries like to use. And they’ve so far been used to flank strong points, which is increasingly a thing of the past. Stick those guns to perimeters, to cover roads and fields from the mobile groups.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 15:00 utc | 294

Arch Bungle don’t worry your Azov kameraden will cleanse the blood and soil of the rump Ukraine as soon as this war is over.

Posted by: linbiao | Oct 17 2022 15:10 utc | 296

Old and new AA
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Lex:
I think those old AA guns would need some very new radars and fire-control systems to have a chance of getting the exploding anti-aircraft ammunition to hit a small target. The ammunition might have to change as well into something more fine-grained to increase the chances of hitting?
Maybe I’m wrong.
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Latitudes Ukraine and Denmark/Scotland/Northern Ireland/Norway
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In before the flat earth trolls? 😛
Latitudes reflect Earth’s axial tilt which is the reason for seasonal variations and changes in daylight. Places on the same latitude receive the same amount of sunlight at the same time of year, those changes are the smallest closer to the equator and the largest at the poles.
According to this outdated map (Wikipedia picture file page) the northernmost point of Ukraine is at a latitude south of the southernmost point of Denmark or Scotland or Northern Ireland, which is a latitude a good distance south of the most southern point of Norway and far to the south of most of Norway.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 17 2022 15:20 utc | 298

Posted by: Zanon | Oct 17 2022 15:29 utc | 299

Meanwhile Ukraine will just bolster its defense of these sites for future attacks and be more prepared.

That’s worked so well up ’til now, hasn’t it?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 17 2022 15:34 utc | 300