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October 16, 2022
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GOMEL : Russian and Belarusian forces gathering in Gomel. Renewed plans to take Kiev?
Embassies closing in Kiev.
Posted by: enigma | Oct 16 2022 12:18 utc | 1
The Telegraph reports:
Ukraine’s vast untapped gas reserves lined up to supply energy to Europe
Country in talks with American drilling companies to bring its resources to the market
Ukraine is in talks with US drillers to pump gas from its vast untapped reserves to Europe and ease the region’s energy crisis by the end of the decade, The Telegraph can reveal.
Naftogaz, Ukraine’s state-owned oil and gas giant, is preparing to market its national gas reserves, the second-largest in Europe, to international drillers and is already in discussion with US firms.
A move to prise open the reserves could help Europe find new sources of gas once the war in Ukraine ends and help countries shift away from more expensive liquified natural gas (LNG) imports. The company has identified huge gas reserves waiting to be tapped, including in the Dnipro-Donets Basin.
Myron Wasylyk, adviser to the Naftogaz’s chief executive, told the Telegraph it has held discussions with US companies about joint agreements to prise open the reserves. Naftogaz “soon will be marketing some of the projects”, he added.
Mr Wasylyk said: “We have a number of resources and gas reserves there that are basically the second largest in Europe. There is exploration potential there and also export potential there. We estimate there could be up to 40 billion cubic metres.
continues ==> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/10/16/ukraines-vast-untapped-gas-reserves-lined-supply-energy-europe/
Posted by: too scents | Oct 16 2022 12:26 utc | 2
Same script over and over and over again. Same predators.
color revolution, then Green revolution…
http://www.arkofcrisis.com/id52.html
Posted by: 873 | Oct 16 2022 12:33 utc | 3
Counting just raw values of UAF losses from 16th October Mod report.
750 servicemen (350 from Kherson), 48 AFV (18 from Kherson), 24 tanks (11 Kherson) and 11 technicals (modified civilian vehicle/pick-ups).
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 16 2022 12:42 utc | 4
Currently available at The Saker…..
https://thesaker.is/germanys-failing-stored-nat-gas-lng-experiment/
per the US State Dept. the NS1 and NS2 pipeline sabotage would supposedly have “no impact on European energy resilience”… then we should guess that Germans should just enjoy their Oktoberfest and — why not ? — also prepare to celebrate Christmas 2022 as if nothing negative had happened. On the contrary, if technical brain-power (currently AWOL) prevailed, then career strategists both sides of the Atlantic would now be spending all day and night trying to brush up hard on nat-gas management 101, better yet with a touch of sophomoric physics if all possible. And thus no-nonsense contingency plans would already be prepared and under deployment.
the 2022 German Oktoberfest will probably turn into a very acid sauerkraut with solid-beer icicles bizarrely hanging from the spouts. The Main Event would still be the December 2022 ´Jinglemerkel Santakaputt´ with nowhere to hide as all of Europe would be undergoing a thorough DE-industrialization process with sharp lowering of standards of living, and in many areas most probably with food issues, darkness & cold, deep frustration and un-heard-of unemployment
Liquefied Natural Gas cannot and will not save the day for Europe. First of all, LNG is and will be for a huge long time to come very scarce worldwide.
Germany has 0 (zero) LNG terminals. None. There are not anywhere near enough LNG tankers available and very few are under construction.
Europeans know bloody well a rough winter is coming, but no one has warned them that the supposed 90% “reserves” that would sorta get them through okay will not be available as announced. There are 2 main reasons for this which were already explained to boring death and intricate depth at Ref #5 https://thesaker.is/the-euthanized-european-nat-gas-reserves/
The first reason #1 is the impossibility of constant RE-pressurization of such “stored” nat-gas reserves in order to maintain the required sub-surface driving force push to produce it onto surface. Now, along broad areas of Germany and Northern Europe the lack of pipeline nat-gas flow will not allow to comply this requirement. Without pipeline nat-gas, at the very best only 25% to 30% of the “supposed” 90% reserves could possibly ever be timely recovered and only very slowly through a period of time stretched out in months. The culprit is the mandatory DE-pressurization whenever such underground reserves are produced onto surface (plus sub-surface losses) with the consequent geometrical drawdown of pressure. With a decreasing sub-surface pressure as driving force, ever smaller and slower nat-gas volumes can be produced onto surface or even none at all per circumstances and operational requirements.
The second reason #2 is the current impossibility in many areas of now having the much required constant massive King Kong pipeline surface flow to adequately push along and warm up the underground reserves that could be produced onto surface by pressure differential when RE-pressurized enough and if all the other requirements are met. This has never ever been tried out by anyone before anywhere near at this scale and without prior notice as later explained. Now suffice to say that the impact will be enormously negative and that Europeans are not anywhere close to being aware of this. All they get to hear is that “our 90% stored nat-gas reserves will get us through this winter if we just save up consumption a bit ”. No they won´t and below it is proven with hard figures. Read my lips ugly “methane hydrates” nightmares will be the new name of the game and it will not be fun, trust me. More later, just bear with me.
Then, with only pressure differential as the driving force available to extract such underground nat-gas reserves… well (a) the consequent pressure drop taking place as the first nat-gas sub-surface “reserves” get to surface will mean that the process has to be very slow and (b) lots of nat-gas will be left behind underground because of gradual pressure drawdown will reduce and weaken the upward push required and (c) you better be VERY careful with veeeery sloooow production (meaning not enough when most needed) because a sudden methane DE-compression will FREEZE up everything and also producing methane hydrates a well-known nightmare of operational engineers which would clog the pipeworks forever.
There is more… lots more…. but I can summarize his conclusion…..
THE EU IS FUCKED…!!
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 16 2022 12:50 utc | 5
GOMEL : Russian and Belarusian forces gathering in Gomel. Renewed plans to take Kiev?
Embassies closing in Kiev.
Posted by: enigma | Oct 16 2022 12:18 utc | 1
As I have been saying for years the solution to the Ukraine riddle is a drive of at least 12 motorised divisions from Gomel to Mazyr then Korosten, Jitomir, Vinnitsia.
Taking Kiev too costly and destructive.
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Oct 16 2022 12:53 utc | 6
The crockola emanating from Kiev keeps amazing the world. “vast untapped natgas”, discussions ongoing…yadayada.
IF they have any it’s all in the east and if anyone’s going to discuss it, then it should be with Gazprom, cuz Russia will control it. Zelensky’s trying everything to pique the interest of the West so we’ll keep pouring military and economic largesse into the rathole that’s Ukraine.
Posted by: A. Pols | Oct 16 2022 13:19 utc | 7
Hunter Biden knows where the gas is in Ukraine. He was once an executive director at Burisma.
Posted by: DaVinci | Oct 16 2022 13:36 utc | 8
Posted by: too scents | Oct 16 2022 12:26 utc | 2
Country in talks with American drilling companies to bring its resources to the market
I know what I’d do if I were a corrupt Ukrainian Gas exec: I’d sell the Americans the drilling rights as fast as I can and get out of Dodge while they figure out how to prize it out of Russian hands …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2022 13:47 utc | 9
Mr Elon Musk: “Uh this list there, it’s for real??”
Good morning, Mr Musk!
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 16 2022 13:54 utc | 10
At 2:Selling Stuff you dont own anymore is such a Five-Eye Thing… Will Ukraine become the 6th Eye?
Posted by: NoOne | Oct 16 2022 13:59 utc | 11
For 10: Eloon has Top Notch Robots who Protect Him….;-)
Posted by: NoOne | Oct 16 2022 14:00 utc | 12
enigma | Oct 16 2022 12:18 utc | 1
“Renewed plans to take Kiev?”
Nah, Kiev is safe. And so are the Russian soldiers in Belarus. They won’t see action. You see, they’re doing something much more important than neutralizing Ukraine. They’re performing a very important dance over there. It’s called army ballet. Moving divisions from one end of the map-stage to the other, and back again. All the while swirling and hopping. It’s all a mighty statement, I hope you can see that. NATO just cannot match that.
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 16 2022 14:02 utc | 13
@too scents #2
Except for one little problem:
1/3 of these reserves are in Eastern Ukraine – Donetsk to be exact.
Another 1/3 is offshore – soon to be lost along with Odessa.
The last 1/3 is in the foothills east of the Transcarpathian mountains – historically Hungarian?
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 16 2022 14:03 utc | 14
The Telegraph is presuming in the Ukraine’s vast untapped gas reserves lined up to supply energy to Europe will still be controlled from Kiev when all this ends. Moscow is from the looks of things going to have something to say about that.
Posted by: RiNS | Oct 16 2022 14:09 utc | 15
The Blinken Challenge: How to steal ALL Russian gas in the name of freedom and democracy? And not have to live in a DUMB
Deep Underground Military Bunker.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Oct 16 2022 14:15 utc | 16
As an appreciative fan of the artistry of effective propaganda, I wonder if some part of the forthcoming RU offensive is to not only foreclose continuation of the ongoing ‘a desperate, losing Russia will resort to nukes’ narrative, but to actually reverse the campaign target.
While B and others promoted the notion that “lies don’t win wars”, we could clearly see the main intent of the (failed) Nato offensive was to establish a explantory basis for a planned nuke false flag.
But VPP et al have probably come to embrace the more subtle meaning of the classic US phrase, “peace through strength”, in that it confers a presumption of winning confidence while simultaneously raising doubts and questions about the weaker side.
In plain English, the Russia nuke chatter is gone. Even with compete social air space supremacy, US/UK will not be able to explain away the coming russian sweep through the heart of Ukraine.
Why would the winner use nukes? So now it will be Zato issuing defensive explanations. As the reality of the loss in Ukr really begins to hit home, and false hopes are finally discarded, this is when, we may begin to see western regime change actually take place.
And at the core, I wonder if the demons are preparing to decamp for greener pastures in Moscow, Bejing and delhi?
Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 16 2022 14:17 utc | 17
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 16 2022 14:02 utc | 13
NATO just cannot match that.
NATO is undisputed Grand Dame of military Ballet.
It’s all they’ve basically done since Yugoslavia.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2022 14:24 utc | 18
NATO just cannot match that.
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 16 2022 14:02 utc | 13
They did, just now. US said they’ll “secure” Sweden. So US will invade Sweden actually, maybe nukes too. That explains why Sweden has blocked NS investigation, it’s US state now.
No word on Finland though. Win some, lose some.
Posted by: rk | Oct 16 2022 14:38 utc | 19
@too cents
You’re throwing around numbers that in no way represent what the rest of your post expresses. There is supposed to be a huge natural gas field here (the second largest in Europe).
Sounds impressive, 40 billion cubic meter of natural gas. Wow!
But that is just 40% of the annual consumption of the Federal Republic of Germany.
The rest is behind the paywall.
Posted by: Hu | Oct 16 2022 14:41 utc | 20
Russians will celebrate Christmas in Kiev after their winter offensive and end war shortly thereafter. The military destruction of Ukraine, the economic destruction of the European Union and prestige destruction of the U.S., well played Vlad.
Posted by: NewWorldDisorder | Oct 16 2022 14:46 utc | 21
Ukraine has the most natural gas reserves in Europe after Russia most in unconventional gas and mostly controlled by Kolomoisky in pee war days. This all sounds like the set up for the carve up
Posted by: Mark T | Oct 16 2022 14:48 utc | 22
⚡️⚡️ ⚡️#Inside
Our source in the OP said that the General Staff, based on MI6 intelligence, requested to urgently prepare additional mobilization of Ukrainians into the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. British intelligence has data that the Russian army is preparing a half-million group for a campaign in Ukraine.
-Ukrainian channel: rezident
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14688
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 14:49 utc | 23
Mr Elon Musk: “Uh this list there, it’s for real??”
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 16 2022 13:54 utc | 10
He should start by contacting all the other people who’ve been on that list, preferably the ones that’ve been crossed off.
Guy gets more like Jack Dorsey every day, maybe Twitter’s cursed, or more than obviously so.
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 16 2022 14:51 utc | 24
RT this morning:
“Ukraine attacks Donetsk with American missiles – mayor”
Me:
“Putin sends fruit basket and mints to Ze’s Italian villa UPS Ground.”
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 16 2022 14:51 utc | 25
⚡️Ukrainian troops changed their plan to capture the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, choosing a place to force the Dnieper – the western part of the Kakhovka reservoir – Rogov
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14694
uncle tungsten called it correctly- the original plan
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 14:52 utc | 26
Why would the winner use nukes?
Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 16 2022 14:17 utc |
Same reason that Russia would “blow up its own pipelines”. Same reason Assad would “gas his own people”. etc. etc.
Logic does not apply to “madmen”, especially ones that resist US hegemony.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Oct 16 2022 14:55 utc | 27
It means it wasn’t Russia, and it’s too dangerous for the German government to call out the perpetrator (the US). Democracy in the West…
Sahra Wagenknecht, opposition politician in the German parliament, asked the German government for information on the attack on the Northstream pipelines, and got this reply:
«”For reasons of the state’s well-being” no further information will be provided
“After careful consideration, the federal Government has come to the conclusion that further information cannot be provided – not even in classified form – for reasons of the state’s well-being.” The reason for this is the “third-party rule” for international cooperation of the intelligence services.
According to this, the international exchange of knowledge is subject to particularly strict secrecy requirements. “The information requested thus affects confidentiality interests that are so in need of protection that the state’s well-being outweighs the parliamentary right to information and the right of members of Parliament to ask questions must exceptionally take precedence over the confidentiality interest of the federal government.“
In plain language: there are probably findings that the members of the Bundestag are not allowed to learn.
For this reason, the German government does not answer Wagenknecht’s question “which NATO ships and troops” have been in the areas where the damage occurred since the suspension of gas supplies by Nord Stream 1, and which Russian ships and troops were sighted during that period.
This answer, too, “would involve the disclosure of information that would have a particular impact on the welfare of the state,” writes the Federal Foreign Office. Therefore, a classification and deposit of the requested information is also out of the question, “since even the low risk of becoming known cannot be accepted”.»
“>https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/exklusiv-nord-stream-explosionen-ostsee-linke-politikerin-sahra-wagenknecht-bundesregierung-verweigert-informationen-zu-pipeline-anschlaegen-li.277250
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14697
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 14:55 utc | 28
«the notion that “lies don’t win wars”»
But they continue them: lots of people here seem unaware that “home front morale” matters to military people, because without that their supplies of stuff and people don’t do well. In recent decades “home front morale” has mattered less because the USA and other NATO countries have fought fairly limited wars against relatively small third world powers, so required supplies of stuff and people were not so big. At those times a Marine commander once said “We’re at war, America’s at the mall”, underlying that the USA could easily afford a “butter and guns” policy for that small war. The european NATO members do not seem to be able to do that for this proxy war.
Posted by: Blissex | Oct 16 2022 14:57 utc | 29
Posted by: too scents | Oct 16 2022 12:26 utc | 2
My take from the beginning has been that the plan was to reconquer Donbas while sanctioning Russia and destroying the gas relationship between Russia and Europe. Russian gas would be replaced by Ukrainian fracking gas from the east controlled by US companies. Transport infrastructure was already in place and it only takes a few weeks to frack a field.
After Russia invaded the plan had to become hoping Russia made the mistake of taking Kiev and leaving the Ukr army in the field, leading to an Iraq style insurgency. But it created a serious problem in gas and the EU economy. The sanctions were designed for Plan A and then became not just dangerous but counterproductive. Of course the US didn’t have an economic plan B that was realistic so since then it’s just been doubling down. Controlling the EU via Ukrainian gas supply has morphed into destroying the EU and pretending that the US can supply the needed energy. The US cannot escape EU economic turmoil because finance is too international.
The only way out now is essentially surrender to Russia or hoping that Ukr can defeat Russia and get that gas territory back. So the US is in a corner and has no real choice but to draw down its military capability through Ukraine.
Posted by: Lex | Oct 16 2022 15:02 utc | 30
Why Is It So Difficult To Attack In Plain Terrain And What Could Be Done About It?
From Kherson, and untill it reaches Donetsk, the terrain consists of flat fields which are sometimes riddled with gullies and small rivulets. The fields are divided by hedges, narrow flat plantations of deciduous trees and shrubs. In the middle of the fields are small villages with 2-3 streets, usually with a farm and a school. To the north of Donetsk, there are agglomerations and villages, sometimes moving from one to the other. To the South and North of the Seversky Donets is a small strip of forest, then fields again.
Despite the fact that probably 90% of military ranges are fields, most of combat operations in these conditions present a great difficulty.
Concentrations of equipment are easily detected by UAVs and if the artillerymen are well trained, even an attempt to reach the attack line will end badly. The enemy has created a solid minefield at the line from Dnieper to Marinka, which also makes it very difficult to use armoured vehicles.
Attempts to occupy strongholds without armour support, when effectuated in small groups which try to approach the enemy stealthily, ninja-party style, also often end miserably, mainly due to enemy artillery that cannot be suppressed. Attacking without suppressing artillery is a fail, it has been known since World War I, but for some reason this commandment has been forgotten. After all, it doesn’t matter how many men are advancing on a stronghold, 10 or 100 – shells will cope with any number.
In order to suppress enemy artillery you need more modern artillery radars or UAVs capable of hovering behind enemy lines (if they were kamikaze drones, there would be no problem at all), and high-precision munitions.
The asymmetrical way of contrabattery warfare – destroying supply depots, logistics centers and bridges (it is still not clear why they are intact) significantly reduces the enemy’s artillery potential, but does not solve the problem completely. There is a lot of complex work to be done here.
Hopefully, our scientists and generals have already looked into this issue.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14699
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 15:05 utc | 31
Lex | Oct 16 2022 15:02 utc | 30
They also clearly expected sanctions to destroy Russia in 2-3 months. They put more and more, one more stupid than another, EU a lot more than US. No eurotrash believed they will have zero effect on Russia, 100% on themselves.
All that is left to do now is false flags in Ukr and destabilize allies like Iran, China etc. and force as many puppet governments to plant more US troops all around Russia. Then nukes for everyone, Poland, Baltics, Sweden. When you have nukes at all borders it almost cancels your hypersonics.
BTW, police is using force and tear gas now in Paris, large protest
Posted by: rk | Oct 16 2022 15:16 utc | 32
MSN internet news says Russian troops are being issued Viagra so they can rape Ukrainian women. Americans are so stupid, the media there is able to post crap like that. Someone will believe it.
Posted by: Leroy | Oct 16 2022 15:19 utc | 33
“The company has identified huge gas reserves waiting to be tapped, including in the Dnipro-Donets Basin.”
Good luck with that
Posted by: gimmeabreak | Oct 16 2022 15:24 utc | 34
As I have been saying for years, the solution to the Ukraine riddle is a drive of at least 12 motorised divisions from Gomel to Mazyr then Korosten, Jitomir, Vinnitsia.
Taking Kiev too costly and destructive.
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Oct 16 2022 12:53 utc | 6
You are absolutely correct! The ‘natural’ (in military science) or to say the shortest line of defense runs from Belarus over Zhytomyr and Vinnytsia down to Moldova. What’s actually happening is (militarily & economically) speaking pure nonsense: to hold a frontline of about (?) four times this length, but with minor forces. Of course one can accept ‘diplomatic’ arguments (international law and such things …) behind this strange adventure called SMO.
True diplomatic creativity is asked when the Kreml wants to cross the borders of the new Russian ‘republic’ (Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, Kherson). This question will arise as soon as Odessa comes into the scope. But I am sure the Kreml will find some appropriate ‘legal’ arguments for then extending its (military) space of action.
I am also rather sure that the Kreml/MoD/Stavka will make a further mistake: to stop at the aforementioned line from Belarus to Moldava. Better it would be to go directly & immediately to Lvov and to the border of Poland. If not so, Galicia will remain an ‘open wound’, permanently bleeding & festering.
On the other side such an open wound will also keep open the option TO ENTER EUROPE (sphere of EU/NATO) – as soon as an opportunity to do so comes around. Such an opportunity e.g. will be the next ‘civil war’ in the at present still ‘United States’.
But be aware & woke: this new and next civil war will be a fake war. In reality it will be a TRAP. I am speaking about the mid & second half of our present decade.
And be aware & woke: what You believe to be the rulers of the world are not the true RULERS!
YOU all could be the rulers. But Your are satisfied with commenting the events, finding out the ‘truth’, dreaming and thinking – instead of ACTING.
Sorry, Gerhard
Posted by: Gerhard | Oct 16 2022 15:24 utc | 35
@Down South #31
Nato just trained up and armed up a massive ‘modern’ artillery grouping, Russia brought the drones making the counter battery battle they spent 5 years working on a bit of a fail.
Nato still has lots left, it’s often reported the ukies shell places hard before they attack
Posted by: OhhCanada | Oct 16 2022 15:26 utc | 36
reply to 2
https://www.shaleexperts.com/plays/ukraine-shale/Overview
Isn’t this mostly shale gas to be obtained by fracking? That may mean plenty of capital investment and wells that deplete rapidly. It also means negotiated peace with Russia because otherwise corporations would have to be utter fools to build infrastructure in a war zone.
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 16 2022 15:28 utc | 37
Posted by: Leroy | Oct 16 2022 15:19 utc | 33
MSN internet news says Russian troops are being issued Viagra so they can rape Ukrainian women.
What piques my curiosity is why would virile young Russian men require viagra?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2022 15:29 utc | 38
I heard the Russians completed the Nuclear Full Cycle. Newest Reactor burns recycled Rods. Sounds like a Game Changer in Energy….onwards to Star Trek!
Posted by: NoOne | Oct 16 2022 15:29 utc | 39
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/10/16/ukraines-vast-untapped-gas-reserves-lined-supply-energy-europe/
who knows anything about this
Ukraine oil companies making contracts to deliver energy to Europe?
Posted by: snake | Oct 16 2022 15:32 utc | 40
Posted by: too scents | Oct 16 2022 12:26 utc | 2
The Telegraph is writing a crock of ever-loving shit. Ukraine does not have any gas reserves. That’s why it’s entire gas industry is based upon skimming off transit fees from gas that is exported to Europe from Russia. This is more propaganda.
Posted by: Intelligent Dasein | Oct 16 2022 15:32 utc | 41
Re. grouping in Belarus. Belarus KGB said some weeks ago that nazi insurgents trained and armed by Nato were preparing to invade Belarus. Today they say a string of terrorist attacks are averted.
“A series of terrorist attacks were prevented in the Republic of Belarus, several people were detained, according to the “Belarus-1″ TV channel.”
Also this could be a decoy, Ukraine is reportedly replacing UAF in Kharkov with territorial defense troops.
“The Armed Forces of Ukraine are being withdrawn from Kharkov. Columns and echelons for the third day go towards Dnepropetrovsk. Territorial defense units remain in place.”
https://t.me/Zornkrieger/18133
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 16 2022 15:33 utc | 42
Posted by: too scents | Oct 16 2022 12:26 utc | 2
Sadly very old news : http://shalegas.in.ua/en/shale-gas-resources-in-ukraine/
Given the latest peer-reviewed papers for production losses and venting/leakage of shale raw gas to the atmosphere. The Shale gas companies in the USSA falsify the leakage factor by an order of magnitude or worse. Provide no expensive boost storage facilities in periods of high demand. See the Texas grid fail winter of 2021.
There exist several other critical issues as well too. The excessive consumption of diesel fuel as a fracking medium. What to do with the reflux volumes of toxic oil-contaminated waste. What to do with the toxic oil contamination of groundwater. Drill staff suffering from lung silicosis too.
Being country 404 with zero EPA controls. A country that knowingly treats 50% plus of the native resident citizens like trash and cannon fodder.
The cheapest solution is to dump all this toxic man-made waste. Into the nearest river used for both drinking and irrigation.
Such a brilliant idea. How to kill your own unwanted Russian citizens for 5 Hryvnia per head!
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Oct 16 2022 15:35 utc | 43
The Musk generation of “Burning Man” boys and girls still does not understand that the ongoing war in Ukraine is a Deep-state war for Freedom to Loot. The aging boys and girls rushed to work on the UC government contracts targeting Russian security or even did things pro bono. But now the ugly reality of the Zionists-run Nazi regime in Kiev became too obvious. The aging boys and girls have been played by the Bearnaise “public relations” juggernaut.
https://www.rt.com/news/564762-musk-dotcom-nuclear-war/
Posted by: Cerena | Oct 16 2022 15:37 utc | 44
https://youtu.be/BsWgmq30WSA?t=38
Pompeo on a book tour. Goes on a Fox News show to say Ukraine should be provided long range missiles.
Posted by: tailend | Oct 16 2022 15:40 utc | 45
Posted by: Intelligent Dasein | Oct 16 2022 15:32 utc | 41
Re. Ukraine and gas reserves. From an April 2022 RAND report:
Ukraine does indeed control Europe’s second-largest known reserves of natural gas, almost 80 percent of which are located east of the Dnipro River. However, these reserves amount to less than 3 percent of Russia’s total natural gas reserves (PDF). And though Ukraine theoretically might have considerable shale gas reserves, they remain largely unproven, and Russia currently has no experience or technology for shale gas production. For shale oil production, Russia has historically relied on Western technology. However, this reliance has been seriously impeded since 2017, when the United States introduced sanctions to ban American companies from providing shale oil extraction technologies to Russia. If Russia grabbed Ukraine’s gas reserves, the same sanctions would almost certainly be imposed on shale gas production technologies.
Lvov and Ivano-Frankivsk hold only 5% of annual production, and 13% of all Ukraine gas reserves, respectively. All the rest are in the eastern side of Dnieper, in the South and shelf of Black sea. If these were viable, they would have been developed already. The ones in Lvov region certainly are not viable.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-foreign-investment-imports/30165068.html
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 16 2022 15:42 utc | 46
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 16 2022 15:42 utc | 45
Russia does not need to develop any of this gas, they can just deny its use from the west. Even that strategical goal is far-fetched, but it is rather a side-effect of the SMO, motivated by entirely different reasons.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 16 2022 15:45 utc | 47
Pompeo on a book tour. Goes on a Fox News show to say Ukraine should be provided long range missiles.
Posted by: tailend | Oct 16 2022 15:40 utc | 44
I said after he lost all that weight that he would run for Prez. Sure enough he is testing the waters and is no doubt assisting the Trump take-down movement behind the scenes.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3193237/mike-pompeo-says-joe-biden-woke-weak-and-waffling
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 16 2022 15:46 utc | 48
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1581340861362995200
On Russian TV, an academic commentator calls for sending arms to the Western Hemisphere to create another Cuban Missile Crisis. The host asks which country would be willing to participate? Answer: Haiti.
It looks like Biden is ready to send a rapid force to Haiti. Russia should not send guns to Haiti. Russia should send lifejackets and boats because the US rapid force is landing to stop Haitians from leaving and going to Florida.
There is a cholera outbreak in Haiti and Haitians need help to get to Florida. Haitians are drowing in capsizings to try to get out. Russia could work with Cuba to give Haitians sturdy boats, lifejackets, and access to Cuban jettys so they can have a safe attempt at getting to Florida. During the 6 month Marial boatlift in 1980, up to 125,000 Cubans arrived in Florida.
It would be a new Cuban Missile Crisis for Biden because the US does not want to truly help Haiti.
Posted by: tailend | Oct 16 2022 15:53 utc | 49
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 16 2022 15:46 utc | 47
Gastric bypass surgery no doubt. No way that ogre could have the discipline to actually zip his mouth and do some exercise
Posted by: DaVinci | Oct 16 2022 15:55 utc | 50
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 15:05 utc | 31
Thanks for that! Your previous post with the discussion of the need for RF forces to become effective in smaller groups, rather than forming up into larger groups that risk being wiped out by a single enemy salvo, was also interesting, advocating almost a kind of gig warfare with much more direct and immediate communication … which sounds like the direction NATO are pushing the Ukrainians.
The fact that UA has had any success at all with these counteroffensives means that RF is struggling to engage small, dispersed, highly mobile groupings with its current drone, artillery and missile forces. I would guess due to range, jamming & shoot-down issues of the drones, plus artillery and missile precision (not everything is laser guided).
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 16 2022 15:56 utc | 51
@ Posted by: rk | Oct 16 2022 14:38 utc | 19
The Finns have a massive very expensive border fence to build From the BALTIC SEA to the Arctic Ocean. Through lakes and forests to the open high Arctic circle semi-frozen tundra.
On the other side of this fence. Will sit waiting for the slightest mistake to happen. Ten highly mobile ski-equipped well trained Army divisions. The cost of this new border fence alone. Will make the cancellation of a Russian-built VVR reactor look cheap in comparison.
Since the vast Europa’ steel industry is now dead. USSA, has no spare capacity. The source of steel can only be paid in RF standard currency at a high-end 1000% markup as well. 🙁
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Oct 16 2022 16:00 utc | 52
@38 “What piques my curiosity is why would virile young Russian men require viagra?”
It’s the Russian way. Women are raped in batches of 10 at a time so soldiers need to sustain erections to fill their quota. Any slacking and it’s off to Siberia.
Posted by: dh | Oct 16 2022 16:01 utc | 53
Concerning oil and gas.
The CPC pipeline out of the Caspian has been monitored from orbit a very long time. The Volga river complex out of the northern Caspian region ditto. In total this flow is 4% of global supply, and much of it is past Volgograd (formerly Stalingrad) northward towards Moscow for consumption and export.
Volgograd is less than 100 miles from the eastern border of Donbas and is the chokepoint for nearly 3% of global supply. The CPC from the Caspian fields to the Black Sea travels through Russia to a Russian Black Sea port.
Kashagan is the notorious oil field in that region and its failures have been monitored from orbit and led to its nickname from the participating companies — CashIsGone. A very difficult production locale for oil, but those obstacles have been overcome and it is now finally flowing. The lesser known field is Karachaganak, it is mostly gas condensate and GAZPROM is the major player. This dictates realities of the recent economic meetings that warranted Putin’s presence.
Turkmenistan is flowing gas. Kazahkstan is flowing significant oil. That region in total, with bordering countries, is flowing oil. Perhaps most amusing, and little known, Iran has been running tankers south to north across the Caspian carrying their sanctioned oil to blend with Russia’s heading north for export. Those sanctions never really had a prayer, and it’s all right there on the imagery.
As for vast Ukraine gas totals, the Holy Bible of oil and gas is published each June by BP. It is called the World Statistical Report on their website and is downloadable in Excel form. It’s big. Plan for that. It profiles production of oil and gas country by country, as well as consumption.
BP, who is generous to a UK government support node, assigns Ukraine about 1 Trillion cubic meters of reserves. Most of that is offshore south. In the world of gas and oil, one sees numbers with the T word or B word for trillions and billions and it’s pretty common to conclude these are “vast resources”.
They aren’t. Russia is estimated by an unfriendly BP as having 37 trillion, and their territory total provides estimates of “undiscovered reserves” far beyond that 37 number. Qatar’s fields offshore estimate at 25. Iran at 32. Saying Ukraine is the 2nd largest in Europe is noting a big fish in a tiny pond. Norway is #1 at 1.4 Trillion. Countries with more? Australia, Nigeria, Egypt, Algeria, Iraq, UAE, US (12 T), Canada.
Ukraine has 1/37th of GAZPROM’s total, with more to be found. The theory that gas fields compelled Russia behavior just doesn’t work.
Posted by: I Know Things | Oct 16 2022 16:03 utc | 54
Donetsk shelled today. When was the referendum? Like a month ago? No defense put up by Russia. When did Russia intervene? 8 months ago. No defense put up back then.
“Ukrainian forces’ shelling destroys administration building in Donetsk”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EfaMl5dlPE
What did RUssia say? That they would respond heavily if Ukraine attack the new russian states that joined Russia…. as usual nothing happen when Ukraine attack.
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 16 2022 16:05 utc | 55
@Bad Deal Motors On | Oct 16 2022 16:00 utc | 51
The Finns have a massive very expensive border fence to build From the BALTIC SEA to the Arctic Ocean.
No. Look at a map.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 16 2022 16:06 utc | 56
@Bad Deal Motors On | Oct 16 2022 16:00 utc | 51
Yes! Thanks. I completely forgot about their wall. They could cut trees and make it out of wood 🙂
Posted by: rk | Oct 16 2022 16:07 utc | 57
The level of imperial propaganda is getting lower and lower.
The population in EU and USA, specially the educated middle class got so retarded that they can recycle.
2022.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-soldiers-supplied-with-viagra-to-rape-ukrainians-un-official-2022-10
Russian soldiers are supplied with Viagra to rape Ukrainian women and ‘dehumanize’ them, claims UN official
2011.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/29/diplomat-gaddafi-troops-viagra-mass-rapeGaddafi ‘supplies troops with Viagra to encourage mass rape’, claims diplomat
Posted by: marko | Oct 16 2022 16:10 utc | 58
It’s the Russian way. Women are raped in batches of 10 at a time so soldiers need to sustain erections to fill their quota. Any slacking and it’s off to Siberia.
Posted by: dh | Oct 16 2022 16:01 utc | 52
Russian regiment took the Ukrainian village.
Day 1: Russians drank all beer and slept with every woman.
Day 2: Russians drank all vodka and slept with every girl.
Day 3: Russians drank everything that burns and slept with everything that moves.
Day 4: Rzhevsky arrived, and then the real depravity began.
Posted by: Ursula Zandt | Oct 16 2022 16:10 utc | 59
If there were gas reserves in ukrane it wd have been exploited by now. This is merely another propoganda nugget to keep the west interested in the country.
THERE ARE NO GAS RESERVES
Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 16 2022 16:11 utc | 60
From legitimniy
#Rumours
Our source reports that Western partners are warning the Office of the President that the Russians are about to expand their range of unmanned “aerial drones”.
A huge number of UAV operators are now being trained in the Russian Federation, as well as mass assembly of drones, which are produced by the RF. We have been insinuating this since the summer.
The only chance for Bankova is that Russia will be negligent about this matter or will once again lose the most of the allocated billions due to corrupton.
In the opposite case, this is a very bad sign for the Ukrainian Armed Forces as the transferred Western air defence systems will not be sufficient to repel constant air raids, and it is always difficult and expensive to resupply missiles for NATO armaments.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14710
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 16:22 utc | 62
There may be gas in Ukraine, but it may not be economically viable at current market prices. Economics determines everything and gas is a very difficult thing to manage especially if it contains Sulfur dioxide as many European gases do
Posted by: DaVinci | Oct 16 2022 16:22 utc | 63
“The biggest geopolitical shift since the fall of the Soviet Union”
De facto alliance, Russia and Turkey
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 16 2022 16:22 utc | 64
How dumb are Elon Musk? He have critized Ukraine and he wants peace which is good but he …supports Ukraine with Starlink network, making him a part of the war!
Musk and Kim Dotcom talk nuclear war
Kim Dotcom, whose real name is Kim Schmitz, replied: “In other words you will continue your support for the US proxy war in Ukraine despite your better knowledge that this is a US proxy war and the risk of a nuclear war because of the US proxy war?”
https://swentr.site/news/564762-musk-dotcom-nuclear-war/
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 16 2022 16:25 utc | 66
Musk really has no choice. He is a Military contractor. Does anyone think he really owns Starlink?
Posted by: DaVinci | Oct 16 2022 16:28 utc | 67
@38, If Ukrainian women look anything like most American women, you not only need Viagra, but a blindfold and a cigarette.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 16 2022 16:31 utc | 68
Map showing oil, gas, and mineral reserves. I estimate that Russia controls around 40%, probably more.
https://i0.wp.com/globalriskinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/uk3-mines-oil-gas.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&ssl=1
Russia launched a military satellite yesterday. I have no more info.
Happy Sunday afternoon to all, with much love from France x
Posted by: extremebuilder | Oct 16 2022 16:34 utc | 70
Dr George W. The pressure control of underground tanks are regulated by brine water which is pumped into the cavity to pressure up and force NG out of the system.
Posted by: Earl | Oct 16 2022 16:34 utc | 71
SCan @ 104
Here is a passage from the article;
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Tabun was the first deadly nerve gas known. It was discovered in January 1936 by the German researcher Gerhard Schrader.
The nerve gas Tabun was made on an industrial scale by Germany during World War II, based on a process developed by Gerhard Schrader. In a large production facility at Dyhernfurth an der Oder, at least 12,000 metric tons of this agent were manufactured between 1942 and 1945.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabun_(nerve_agent)
The figure of > 12,000 metric tons of Tabun nerve gas comes from the quantity contained in the 500,000 artillery shells, and 100,000 bombs, filled with Tabun, found at the end of the war. None of this nerve gas was used. Apparently, Hitler was a nice guy.
Posted by: whereisit | Oct 16 2022 16:42 utc | 72
tailend @ 48
It would be a new Cuban Missile Crisis for Biden because the US does not want to truly help Haiti.
US Assistant to the President for National Security Jake Sullivan said that in case if Russia Haiti decides to use nuclear weapons, then America’s response would not depend on the scale of the strike, but did not elaborate on what the US response would be.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 16 2022 16:47 utc | 73
The Daily Telegraph is perhaps the worst of all UK media cheer leaders for Ukraine and its regime. Scarcely a day goes by without half a dozen articles covering Russian atrocities, retreats,casualties, problems with mobilisation, poor morale, political unrest and so on. This week it had a full article with diagrams of how Russian divers or midget subs might have acted to blow up Nord Stream.
Anyone who questions this narrative [propaganda] in its comments section is jumped on and comprehensively insulted by trolls both professional and amongst its fired up reader base. Only today there was an article on why anyone questioning the Ukrainian “final victory” was a deluded Putin schill and a useful fool to that regime.
My comment on the Ukraine gas article was along the lines of the DT, having reported at length the Russian expertise [sarc] in blowing up pipelines (especially their own??) might think that any new pipeline might be vulnerable.
The UK faces extreme political turmoil and economic pain. In my opinion this article was designed to show some light at the end of a very long and dark tunnel. A sop to the uninformed.
However if you want to know what message the British establishments wants you to think, on this subject at least, read the Daily Telegraph.
Posted by: marcjf | Oct 16 2022 16:47 utc | 74
I may have missed it but in all the talk of NS1/2 sabotage I saw no mention of the UK’s Special Boat Service(SBS). I think that’s a bit unfair to the water equivalent of the SAS. Credit where credit is due, right?
Posted by: Guy L’Estrange | Oct 16 2022 16:52 utc | 75
@ marcjf | Oct 16 2022 16:47 utc | 73
Anyone who questions this narrative [propaganda] in its comments section is jumped on and comprehensively insulted by trolls. . .
. .a familiar line of thinking at MOA also. When opinions differ it’s us versus trolls, do’ntcha know.
We should all think alike, and our problems would be over. . . .Did this failing derive from an unfortunate elementary education?
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 16 2022 16:56 utc | 76
From the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine :
https://t.me/sputnik/15583
“Ukraine and Europe have always been friends. In 988, Prince Vladimir baptized Kievan Rus and decided that we needed to join the European Union.”
Don’t say they were not forward looking.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 16 2022 17:13 utc | 77
THE EU IS FUCKED…!!
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 16 2022 12:50 utc | 5
To be sure George.
But the unelected failures running it probably think it’s an Opportunity a la Blinkens comments.
Clown world on steroids is upon us!
Posted by: jpc | Oct 16 2022 17:21 utc | 78
Regarding attacking Kiev from Belarus, some thoughts.
Some civilians would flee the city as soon as artillery hit the trenches on the perimeter, and that would be a bad look for the Zelenskyy regime, and remind the press how other countries were already overwhelmed by refugees.
Defenders could either desert, surrender, or fight to the death. Sadly that would mean some would be forced to stay put and die, but on the whole it would be most likely that it would be the Nazis who’d stay in place and eventually get sent to Bandera.
Zelenskyy would have to show that he was actually in Kiev, or that he’d withdrawn. Western allies could either stay in place, while others continued to visit, or start fleeing while the others no longer came to get their photo taken with Zelenskyy.
Ukrainian troops within the Kiev region would be strongly motivated to desert or surrender before they got sent to defend against the incoming forces.
Morale among the rest of Ukraine’s troops could start resembling that of German forces when Berlin had Russian artillery starting to hit it, back in 1945.
Those thinking of investing in Ukraine, politically or monetarily, would start to think twice. So too would foreign mercenaries.
The chattering class would start seriously worrying about having established a yooge paper trail of what could soon be exposed as having been nonsense, and would want to cover their asses by providing coverage of the war with Ukraine that was less tainted with biased propaganda.
TL;DR: It’s going to be a lot harder to write about Ukraine winning the war if a lot of people are fleeing its Capitol.
Posted by: Babel-17 | Oct 16 2022 17:26 utc | 79
Is Russia Being Persuaded To Use Tactical Nuclear Weapons?
This same morning has started with the Nazi’s launch of missile strikes against Belgorod and its environs using American M142 HIMARS MLRSs. Most of the enemy missiles were intercepted by the air defences. However, two arrivals near the airport were recorded.
As it turns out, this is not the only threat to local residents. Today a man stepped on a mine in a forest belt near Shebekino (Belgorod region) and an explosion tore off his foot. Apparently this is about the PMF-1 “Lepestok” remote mines, with which the Bandera fighters are throwing to the People’s Republics and other bordering regions of the Russian Federation. The governor of the Belgorod region Gladkov urged citizens to refrain from visiting the border forest belts because of the mine danger.
After the strike on Belgorod, there was almost immediate retaliation against the military and energy facilities of the Nazis. The Russian Defence Ministry reported that missiles and bomber munitions had hit all the targets, but without much specificity. It is known that several targets in Kremenchuk, Kryvyi Rig, and Kiev were hit. According to some reports, CHPP-3 was destroyed in the Ukrainian capital. In other words, the Russian President’s words about “retaking” targets that were not hit on 10-11 October are not an empty sound.
The US media reported that Russia and Tehran had concluded a contract for the delivery of Zolfaghar and Fateh-110 ballistic missiles. Neither Moscow nor Tehran have confirmed it so far, but Western sources are trying to assure that this is evidence of the exhaustion of Russia’s missile arsenal as well as the degradation of our military industrial complex without Western technology and spare parts. However, if such a contract has indeed been concluded, the explanation is very simple: Iranian missiles, while being quite successful in penetrating Saudi Arabia’s air defense system composed of modern American systems, are much cheaper than Russian missiles. And obviously, we are going to need a lot of defenses in the near future. So why should we spend more money?
The terrorist war has also spread to our ally Belarus where local law enforcement authorities have prevented a number of terrorist acts, to be carried out by nationalist traitors recruited and trained in Poland under the supervision of western secret services.
Diplomatic missions from a number of countries are leaving Kiev, and more than 15 countries have called on their citizens to leave Ukraine as soon as possible. And Western countries are pulling out their citizens who are not connected to the provision of combat operations by the AFU and the work of special services and terrorist organisations of the Nazi regime. All of this suggests an impending intensification of hostilities. Perhaps the Nazis are preparing new provocations or an offensive, and are waiting for strikes on the capital.
US Assistant to the President for National Security Jake Sullivan said that in case if Russia decide to use nuclear weapons, then America’s response would not depend on the scale of the strike, but did not elaborate on what the US response would be.
Emanuel Macron earlier said France would not use nuclear weapons as a response and the NATO secretary general has also said the chances of the alliance using nuclear weapons are unlikely. It feels like we are just being persuaded to use TNWs on the Banderites
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14712
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 17:28 utc | 80
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 16 2022 16:05 utc | 54
I am sorry to hear how butt hurt you are that the Russian MoD didn’t launch non-strategic nuclear weapons all over Western Ukraine, or attack Kiev with all 370,000 of its newly mobilized troops.
If it helps, you should know that you are not alone in your despair; Biden is also butt hurt, and probably for the same reason that you are. Just relax and be patient, Zelensky and company will get its just deserts.
Posted by: Ed Nelson | Oct 16 2022 17:29 utc | 81
😎🇬🇧💪American Military Watch writes: Belgorod air defense broke the world record for the range of destruction
According to the magazine, a pair of Ukrainian combat aircraft attacked the Russian city of Belgorod, reaching the border with Russia at extremely low altitude, after which they gained altitude, fired at the target and again went to the ground, headed for the airfield.
However, neither the Su-27 fighter nor the Su-24 front-line bomber reached him, having received a rocket in their engines. Both aircraft were shot down over the Poltava region.
Allegedly, the Russian S-300V4 anti-aircraft system worked on them.
According to the Americans, the complex hit Ukrainian aircraft at a range of 217 km, thereby breaking the previous “record” set by the Russian S-400 system in March this year, when a Ukrainian Su-27 fighter jet was shot down over Kyiv at a range of 150 km.
As the magazine writes, despite its maneuverability, the fighter could not get away from the missile.
And no one has yet encountered the S-500 …
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14714
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 17:30 utc | 82
Immaculate Deception – 67
Come on, don’t be silly. Ukrainian women basically look like Russian women, so a lot of them are quite stunning.
As for the Viagra stuff, it’s the same bullshit that was said about Gadaffi a decade ago. It was already dubious then, it’s obviously completely ridiculous now.
Posted by: Clueless Joe | Oct 16 2022 17:31 utc | 83
enigma @ 1
Putin will imminently return to the historical lands of the Rus. The incorrigible Khazari usurpers will flee before the onslaught, their obtuse posturing falling like scales before the harsh winds of winter. Then perhaps the great pretenders will formulate their next chimera. Something directed against the White Rus?
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 16 2022 17:48 utc | 84
Ursula@58
You are hyperventilating once again. Perhaps its bitter memories from WWII. From what I’ve read, the American forces in France during that conflict had no need for Viagra.
Anyhoo, the parts of the liberated provinces are not made up of people who speak the Ukrainian dialect. The women there are Russian. Get a life.
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 16 2022 17:48 utc | 85
@Down South
The S500 system is not an anti-aircraft system. It’s an anti-missile addition to the S400+Pantsir+etc. integrated air defense system.
Posted by: V87 | Oct 16 2022 17:54 utc | 86
aristodemos@84
This is an imposter, Ursula@58. For all barflies, be aware of a n’erdowell in your midst!
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 16 2022 17:58 utc | 87
Sure there is gas in the Ukraine, from farts of Zelly and his cohorts.
Posted by: Paulg | Oct 16 2022 18:15 utc | 88
@38, If Ukrainian women look anything like most American women, you not only need Viagra, but a blindfold and a cigarette.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 16 2022 16:31 utc | 67
And a forklift for transportation.
Posted by: Michigan Dude | Oct 16 2022 18:16 utc | 89
The world’s first pilot shot down by an Iranian “shahid” is a real “hero of Ukraine” 😁
“Ace” Air Force Vadim managed to trade in a MiG-29 for an Iranian ‘lawnmower’. The official press release reports that he heroically killed his MiG against a “Geranium” pot in the skies over the Vinnitsa region.
Bravo for Hero. What an accomplishment…👏👏👏🤭🤭🤭
Cretins…
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14736
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 18:21 utc | 90
Well, there was a report that an American mercenary had raped and killed a native Ukrainian in Zaporizhe… whether viagra was needed or not was not mentioned. So it’s clearly projecting Nato actions, again.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 16 2022 18:24 utc | 91
@Norwegian #76
Lost in translation ?
In 988, Prince Vladimir […]decided that [Ukraine] needed to join the European Union.
The minister just had an historic translation problem.
In 988, Ukraine wanted perhaps to join the 1st German Reich. The HolyRoman’s one.
Having missed the 2nd which was brief, Bandera helped some “Ukrainian” to integrate the 3rd. The Nazi’s one.
Finally, European Union simply means 4th Reich, and Scholtz want it to be a German’s one. Again…..
That’s probably what the socalled minister meant by establishing a one thousand years filiation which is not without logic.
Posted by: La Bastille | Oct 16 2022 18:32 utc | 92
And now kaboom
Our source in the OP has said that the General Staff has requested urgent preparation of additional mobilization of Ukrainians into the ranks of the Armed Forces based on MI-6 intelligence. British intelligence has information that the Russian army is preparing a half-million-strong force for a campaign in Ukraine.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14748
You see folks, those 300.000 mobilized are not the only ones. There is RosGvardia which isn’t counted. Volunteer units that are not counted, all those lovely Chechen guys, which are not counted. Those 300k are only regular Ru army. Soon in theatres near you. Revenge of the Sith!!!
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14750
Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 18:36 utc | 93
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 16 2022 17:58 utc | 86
I’m afraid you don’t know who Poruchik Rzhevsky is, there is a lot of humor in that post.
Posted by: Paco | Oct 16 2022 18:48 utc | 94
Ed Nelson
I have not proposed nukes at all, what are you talking about?
Russia could have responded but they keep bluffing over and over again, that is why Ukraine keep bombing the new russian states and even Russia itself.
Do not be butthurt because I tell you truth. If you cant handle it, gtfo.
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 16 2022 18:48 utc | 95
Down South
Who cares about how many soldiers Russia use?
Russia have missiles, robots, but they are not using it, and wont win this war unless they make use of this superiority.
Posted by: Zanon | Oct 16 2022 18:50 utc | 96
… De facto alliance, Russia and Turkey
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 16 2022 16:22 utc | 63
What it looks like is that VVP has offered Erdoğan an extremely comfortable seat at the table of Russia’s energy and food exports, a big piece of pretty much all Russia’s business that is geographically relevant to Turkey, and Erdoğan has accepted.
If this is the case it is indeed a huge partnership / alliance because the underlying mutual interest creates an interest in mutual security that goes way beyond the careful dance for advantage we’ve seen so far.
I’m not keen on video material, hopefully there are some good articles on this ASAP!
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 16 2022 19:12 utc | 97
I regret that I find it necessary to take issue with many of the assertions in the Saker Essay I posted in this thread.
I believe the author confuses the properties of propane with those of methane (natural gas). Natural gas is produced from reservoirs which deplete, together with dropping reservoir pressure all the time. Occasionally, a well blow out occurs, which is basically an uncontrolled release. Bridging caused by freezing of the gas seldom occurs, and the culprit is ice formation from entrained moisture.
Methane hydrates are only stable at extreme pressure and low temperature such as found at abyssal depths in the ocean. On any occasion where pressure is lowered, they break down and the gas fizzes out of them. Formation of Methane hydrates in the storage caverns is most likely nil.
That said, many of the author’s assertions, particularly those covering available volumes vs demand, stand scrutiny.
I note that the gronigen gas field will remain in production regardless of the fact that production is causing subsidence, earth quakes, and destruction of overlying structures (houses). Holland simply cannot do without it.
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 16 2022 19:13 utc | 98
“US said they’ll “secure” Sweden. So US will invade Sweden actually, maybe nukes too. That explains why Sweden has blocked NS investigation, it’s US state now.
Posted by: rk | Oct 16 2022 14:38 utc | 19
____________________________________________________________
Sweden lost its sovereignty when betraying Julian Assange, under US pressure. Swedes constructed a lot of dirty tricks to strangle Assange.
Posted by: Cerena | Oct 16 2022 19:15 utc | 99
@Arch Bungle 38
One possible reason is that MSN is fully aware that all the smart, beautiful Ukrainian women have already married foreigners, created an OnlyFans channel, or both, and have emigrated to other countries, leaving only the ugly, the ancient and the war widows behind in the Ukraine. If that is the case, it is small wonder that they imagine that the virile, young Russian men might need a little assistance.
Another may be that they accidently opened the wrong propaganda file and reused the same lies that they have employed in every conflict since Viagra was discovered, in order to make the ancient propaganda, “our enemies are evil, immoral rapists” sound new and credible.
The most likely explanation however, is thàt having fired the few competent writers who hadn’t already resigned in disgust, in order to save money, recycling old lies is much less effort and expense for them than trying to invent new ones. From observation and experience they know that their viewership started out sufficiently stupid and by now is so braindead from imbibing toxic garbage masquerading as news that their audience will accept any amount of repetition of the same old lies as they saw last week without even a raised eyebrow, let alone a question.
Posted by: Hermit | Oct 16 2022 19:17 utc | 100