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October 14, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-173
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. Please stick to the topic. The current open thread for other issues is here.
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https://t.me/azmilitary11/25289
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25290 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 8:48 utc | 201 The Owl #162
May you find fair weather sailor. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 15 2022 8:48 utc | 202 Paul GV #189 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 15 2022 8:54 utc | 203 Turkey pays the price for it’s energy deal with Putin.
Link to Al Jazeera
The West is done. Morally. Economically. Militarily. Culturally. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 15 2022 8:54 utc | 204 Posted by: marcjf | Oct 15 2022 7:50 utc | 190 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2022 9:01 utc | 205 To Russia and the great reset. Posted by: Orgel | Oct 15 2022 9:04 utc | 206 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2022 9:01 utc | 206 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2022 9:06 utc | 207
Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 9:09 utc | 208 unimperator #206
Thank you for those thoughts, I guess Russia was able to mosey along with thin army ranks and a diminished training program while it maintained an active small core army group here and there in the world. That sounds like a fair thing as there are far greater priorities for budgets than a standing army. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 15 2022 9:16 utc | 209 Russia never fights wars to exterminate the enemy. Even in 1945. USSR had no intention to destroy the Greman enemy. Russia fights wars to make friends with enemies after they are defeated and later to trade or cooperate with them. Good example for this is the Soviet intervention in Avganistan. Posted by: marko | Oct 15 2022 9:18 utc | 210
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14411 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 9:18 utc | 211 Yet another article in the German Press about blackouts and prepping – gov’t reccomends every household stock 10 days of food supplies. This article is a list of what supplies one should buy – it reads like a doomer prepper article from a Militia in Montana Posted by: Exile | Oct 15 2022 9:20 utc | 212 Down South #201 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 15 2022 9:20 utc | 213
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25296
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25297 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 9:22 utc | 214 “Could it be that one of the outcomes of this war the US desires is the destruction of the BRI between Europe and Asia?” Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 15 2022 9:26 utc | 215 Exile #213
Establish fear and uncertainty through things like public health emergencies, energy threats, price hikes, wars and rumours of wars, refugees and fear of stability and cultural security… Brainwashing or conditioning to accept the ‘good intentions’ of the elite to save all from heathens, slavs, africans, other…. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 15 2022 9:26 utc | 216 A single Lancet drone put two UAF S-300 launchers out of action in Zaporizhe. That’s what you call “cost effective”. They need their own point defense systems, as well. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2022 9:38 utc | 217 @Orgel 207 Posted by: OohCanada | Oct 15 2022 9:39 utc | 218 Strelkov is back at the front. Apparently as chief of staff of a volunteer battalion: Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 15 2022 9:47 utc | 219
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14414
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14415
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14417 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 9:50 utc | 220 @ Exile #213 Posted by: dfg | Oct 15 2022 9:56 utc | 221 Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 14 2022 22:27 utc | 93 Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 15 2022 10:17 utc | 222 @uncletungsten 217 Posted by: OohCanada | Oct 15 2022 10:19 utc | 223 Canada purporting to send ‘500,000’ sets of winter uniforms to Ukraine is the same as the US airdropping extra large condoms over North Vietnam in days of yore. Posted by: Inevitability | Oct 15 2022 10:19 utc | 224 Prepping is a good thing. When an emergency actually arises, survivability, the level of mental/emotional stress, and the resilience of the /remaining/ supply chain will improve with prepping than without. Posted by: Greg Galloway | Oct 15 2022 10:19 utc | 225 … the ability to collect SIGINT to identify areas of interest could be such a compelling capability that it may be working or in the works. Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 15 2022 10:25 utc | 226 Fellow Barflies; Posted by: Exile | Oct 15 2022 10:31 utc | 227 Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 15 2022 9:47 utc | 220 Posted by: v | Oct 15 2022 10:34 utc | 228
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14432 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 10:34 utc | 229
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25309 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 10:37 utc | 230
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14447 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 11:07 utc | 231
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14453 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 11:15 utc | 232 “Western officials have begun to covertly develop plans to prevent panic and chaos in the event that Russia does decide to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 15 2022 11:20 utc | 233 @ Flying Dutchman | Oct 15 2022 11:20 utc | 234 Posted by: dfg | Oct 15 2022 11:27 utc | 234 Posted by: Exile | Oct 15 2022 9:20 utc | 213 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 15 2022 11:29 utc | 235 @ Greg Galloway | Oct 15 2022 10:19 utc | 226 Posted by: dfg | Oct 15 2022 11:58 utc | 236 That which is Starlink’s greatest strength in Ukraine also suggests its greatest weakness. Posted by: Simplicius | Oct 15 2022 12:06 utc | 237 Posted by: Tuk | Oct 14 2022 16:23 utc | 7
You can be certain that if evidence had been found that could even remotely be pinned on Russia it would have been trumpeted at the highest possible volume. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 15 2022 12:06 utc | 238 I wonder what the Russian was doing in Kherson all this time. This important bridge has been broken for months, the damaged bridge deck parts could have been strengthened / replaced by modular provisional bridge segments long ago, because the substructure is apparently intact and undamaged. Posted by: guest from franconia | Oct 15 2022 12:14 utc | 239 a ground based laser with a generous supply of power can probably pick these satellites off pretty quick, and perhaps they are already doing so. Posted by: Passerby | Oct 15 2022 12:16 utc | 240 Posted by: Simplicius | Oct 15 2022 12:06 utc | 238 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2022 12:17 utc | 241
Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 12:29 utc | 242 Posted by: guest from franconia | Oct 15 2022 12:14 utc | 240
Given that it’s their country and they’re already in it you’d expect at least that much. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 15 2022 12:34 utc | 243 Yup I said this possibility yesterday. And it seems I was 100% correct. From RT: Posted by: Comandante | Oct 15 2022 12:38 utc | 244 From Larry Johnson
https://sonar21.com/from-steadfast-noon-to-one-minute-to-midnight-going-nuclear/ Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 12:40 utc | 245 Posted by: Passerby | Oct 15 2022 12:16 utc | 241 Posted by: too scents | Oct 15 2022 12:40 utc | 246
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14469 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 12:42 utc | 247 Respect to the Ukrainians how they always manage to bring such strong troops to the front without the Russian being able to do much about it. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 15 2022 12:52 utc | 248
Poland to buy hundreds of South Korean Chunmoo multiple-rocket launchers Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 15 2022 13:02 utc | 249 There are no sides in nuclear war. Everybody gets burnt or poisoned. Posted by: Giyane | Oct 15 2022 13:12 utc | 250 @220 well, let’s see if Strelkov will redeem himself. But your criticism of Martyanov and The Saker is completely misplaced. The Saker runs a philosphical blog and Martyanov keeps us in good cheer – you either like them or not but they play a much bigger role in the lives of many honorable Russia-loving people than Strelkov ever could. And suggesting that The Saker or Martyanov should pick up arms at their age is totally troll-like. Please observe yourself in a mirror. Posted by: Anthony | Oct 15 2022 13:17 utc | 251 Really tired of all the chatter about celebrity Elon Musk. He is nothing but a gay actor. An operative. A frontman. Not an engineer, not an inventor, doesn’t manage his supposed companies. Starlink works well for military purposes because it is military. MoD announced last week they were the ones who cut off Starlink. Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 15 2022 13:20 utc | 252 @Down South 248 Posted by: OohCanada | Oct 15 2022 13:20 utc | 253 aristodemos 117
Wow, MoA is a free speech environment. Takes a while to get used to. Imagine someone posting this anywhere in public in Germany. Or even elsewhere. Posted by: grunzt | Oct 15 2022 13:21 utc | 254 «Neoliberalisation has infected Russia (unlike China)» Posted by: Blissex | Oct 15 2022 13:26 utc | 255 My two cents: I think you should talk to your local military, and maybe join their reserve forces, if you are really concerned about prepping. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 15 2022 13:38 utc | 256 A third cent – and maybe Colonel Reisner can make a video on the subject. If you want to listen to advice from someone who makes YouTube videos. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 15 2022 13:40 utc | 257 A Geran-2 drone hit an UAF air defense radar. I don’t know if they have autonomous ability to seek radars or whether manually guided, but perhaps they can since it’s no difference from anti-radar missiles. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2022 13:44 utc | 258 The Owl #162 Posted by: Tichy | Oct 15 2022 13:46 utc | 259 Russia is fighting a Guerrilla war against a long- prepared and well financed adversary, NATO. While it might make sense to amass large forces and ammunition in Eastern Ukraine, relatively near to Friendly Borders. Any large formations further afield might became vulnerable to bombing sorties by the fucked up anglosaxons who bombed Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya Syria and Yemen into the Middle ages. Posted by: Giyane | Oct 15 2022 13:47 utc | 260 From Vicktor55 telegram channel…. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 15 2022 13:47 utc | 261 «Martyanov and The Saker […] play a much bigger role in the lives of many honorable Russia-loving people» Posted by: Blissex | Oct 15 2022 13:48 utc | 262 @oldhippie 253 Posted by: OohCanada | Oct 15 2022 13:55 utc | 263 @ oldhippie 253 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 15 2022 13:56 utc | 264 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 15 2022 11:20 utc | 234 Posted by: KitaySupporter | Oct 15 2022 14:05 utc | 265
From what I can determine, the letter attributed to General Blanchon was actually written by a biologist named Fernando López-Mirones, according to this webpage. Posted by: David Levin | Oct 15 2022 14:06 utc | 266 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 15 2022 13:47 utc | 261 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 15 2022 14:14 utc | 267 @263 Posted by: Anthony | Oct 15 2022 14:21 utc | 268
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14488 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 14:29 utc | 269 Serious preppers know the recommended daily water component is at least one gallon per person per day – and that doesn’t include water for wsshing<\/i> Posted by: Exile | Oct 15 2022 14:30 utc | 270 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 15 2022 13:47 utc | 262
This is truly genius. Seeding the battlespace with a matrix of echo-location beacons, perhaps over a few months until the origin of any artillery piece can be triangulated. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 15 2022 14:33 utc | 271 … In the video, the Russian Lancet destroys the S-300 launchers in the Zaporozhye region … Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 15 2022 14:36 utc | 272 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 15 2022 19:30 utc | 273
I don’t think further evidence is required to show that the USA/NATO no longer has the weapons manufacturing capacity to keep up with Russia. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 15 2022 14:37 utc | 273 My Ukrainian thought for this day now tending towards evening there: it helps to remember the wisdom of what has happened since the SMO began, which is that had it not happened in that particular way, all of this ongoing attack by the usurpers buttressed by their military/industrial complex so warned against by the departing Eisenhower many many years back – all of this – would now be happening, (as it is now happening,) inside Russia itself as it was constituted before Donesk and Lugansk and the southern areas were brought back according to those citizens’ wishes. Posted by: juliania | Oct 15 2022 14:43 utc | 274 OT: Hardware hacks (physical access) can’t really be defended against. Not even self-destroying circuits can be relied upon (DARPA has been working on improving those for a long time but even so). Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 15 2022 14:51 utc | 275 Since my “Arch Bungle’s Defencenews PL report”… is stuck on the bottom after a comment I made later (at least for me right now) I can say that I didn’t do anything special or strange in my comment. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 15 2022 14:54 utc | 276 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 15 2022 13:12 utc | 251 Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 15 2022 14:55 utc | 277 I am puzzled by Josep Borell’s declaration, assuring that “Russian troops will be annihilated if Russia uses Nukes in Ukraine. Posted by: CarlD | Oct 15 2022 14:59 utc | 278 JUST SEEN – Prof. Marcello Ferrada de Noli Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Oct 15 2022 15:02 utc | 279 Posted by: CarlD | Oct 15 2022 14:59 utc | 279
Borell, by his track record, is a moron. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 15 2022 15:07 utc | 280 Minister of Finance of Ukraine was appointed as Chairman of the Board of Governors of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund Posted by: rk | Oct 15 2022 15:14 utc | 281 juliania | Oct 15 2022 14:43 utc | 275 My prayer is this: Posted by: Mexicana | Oct 15 2022 15:14 utc | 282 Lots of bored people here speculating over details. It’s pretty simple actually: rats flee first. Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 15 2022 15:21 utc | 284 @Arch Bungle 274 Posted by: OohCanada | Oct 15 2022 15:27 utc | 285 @Blissex #56 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 15 2022 15:28 utc | 286 Next level trolling from the Russians:
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Russia-Suggests-A-Price-Cap-On-US-LNG.html Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 15 2022 15:28 utc | 287 @ juliania Posted by: james | Oct 15 2022 15:38 utc | 289 …peace came to me when I read this. Posted by: juliania | Oct 15 2022 15:38 utc | 290 @moaobserver #220 Posted by: c1ue | Oct 15 2022 15:44 utc | 291 Antony 2069 – The Saker’s blog is about values, not about propaganda. DIOLCH. Thanks for summing it up with those words. Ardderchog. Excellent. I am a former Anglican priest (of the heretical Celtic variety), and although my spirituality has never been ‘orthodox’, my life would be so much poorer today without the influence of the Russian Orthodox ‘Sophia’ trinity, as I call them, in my life: Soloviev, Bulgakov and Florensky. For a few years, in my private chapel, I had the privilege of being custodian of/worshipping with, Fr Bulgakov’s (himself an unorthodox Russian Orthodox!) memorial ikonostasis. Needless to say, meeting Constantin Andronikof in Paris, was also a privilege in itself, as well as a real-live link with a unique Russian spiritual and theological tradition. Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Oct 15 2022 15:46 utc | 292 @Exile #228 Posted by: c1ue | Oct 15 2022 15:46 utc | 293 So this is why Poland is such an enthusiastic supporter of Ukraine…they’re getting paid real money for their old Soviet military gear.
Retailers (and consumers) in many nations understand the “discount” game: just increase base prices first… Posted by: c1ue | Oct 15 2022 15:52 utc | 294
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14514 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 15:52 utc | 295
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25367 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 15:56 utc | 296 “I am puzzled by Josep Borell’s declaration, assuring that “Russian troops will be annihilated if Russia uses Nukes in Ukraine. Posted by: Fnord73 | Oct 15 2022 16:03 utc | 297
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14519 Posted by: Down South | Oct 15 2022 16:04 utc | 298 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 15 2022 7:01 utc | 180 Posted by: juliania | Oct 15 2022 16:05 utc | 299 @ Fnord73 | Oct 15 2022 16:03 utc | 298 Posted by: james | Oct 15 2022 16:05 utc | 300 |
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