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October 13, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-172
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. Please stick to the topic. The current open thread for other issues is here.
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195 Thanks hermit i wasnt aware of twains work . I will delve. Posted by: Hankster | Oct 14 2022 4:37 utc | 201
https://t.me/IntelRepublic/6805 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 5:05 utc | 202 @ aristodemos | Oct 13 2022 17:01 utc | 26 Posted by: james | Oct 14 2022 5:07 utc | 203
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14098 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 5:10 utc | 204 “Rather than attack the Ukrainian army on the flat fields of the Kherson bridgehead, let’s evacuate the civilians from Kherson city, and let the Ukrainians capture the city and THEN we will bomb them after they take refuge and hide in the buildings”. Posted by: Simon | Oct 14 2022 5:15 utc | 205 Posted by: Australian lady | Oct 14 2022 2:54 utc | 193 Posted by: Peter Williams | Oct 14 2022 5:43 utc | 206 Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 13 2022 21:52 utc | 130 Posted by: Jun | Oct 14 2022 5:43 utc | 207 Posted by: Simon | Oct 14 2022 5:15 utc | 204
I’ll be a good sport and disagree. How about this:
Does this look like more of a balanced view to you? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2022 6:01 utc | 208 @SeanAU | Oct 14 2022 0:29 utc | 172
He will already know, Stoltenberg speaks the Serbo-Croatian language. Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 14 2022 6:01 utc | 209 A guy labelling himself “AussieCossack” is fronting a national protest calling for Australian neutrality towards the Russia|Ukrainian war. Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 14 2022 6:05 utc | 210 @Piotr Berman | Oct 14 2022 4:21 utc | 199
He was executed October 24, 1945. Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 14 2022 6:11 utc | 211 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 14 2022 6:05 utc | 209 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2022 6:28 utc | 212 fye Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 14 2022 6:37 utc | 213 It’s interesting that few countries in the EU/NATO calls themselves as democratic, even though they have kings and queens. Sure, they say that the prime minister and the parliament runs the country and takes decisions. But those prime ministers have to consult the kings/queens, even though they don’t advertise that much. The people, who live in these countries are actually subjects, rather than citizens. For example, Norwegian subject. The UK citizens are actually King’s subjects, even though they don’t like to advertise that. Posted by: Paulg | Oct 14 2022 6:39 utc | 214 Norway subjects: https://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/rwmain/opendocpdf.pdf?reldoc=y&docid=5d4adf374 Posted by: Paulg | Oct 14 2022 6:41 utc | 215 Posted by: c1ue | Oct 13 2022 22:47 utc | 147 Posted by: SW (also Berlin) | Oct 14 2022 6:54 utc | 216 As bad as things in Ukraine are, I doubt NATO/Elensky can make it go full-Paraguay in terms of national suicide. Total state-breakdown would occur first. Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 14 2022 7:04 utc | 217 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 14 2022 6:05 utc | 209 Posted by: K | Oct 14 2022 7:06 utc | 218 NATO will start a nuclear war exercise next week. In the “Steadfast Noon” exercise, the air forces of 14 NATO countries practice a first nuclear strike from Poland. Posted by: Mikkado | Oct 14 2022 7:07 utc | 219 217 yes. hes had some stuff with usa sheisters in max igan’s benefactors class , a usa guy who sold mexican citizenship as one example. he ran for parliment last election i thought, so he has high ambitions . to think you can make any political change in a fixed game is naive. so i guess put him in the avi yemeni class. a reformed drug addict gaza sniper turned journalist, who ran australian liberty alliance, a neo nazi group , lolz suprise suprise. this is the level of alt heroes australia throws up. Posted by: hankster | Oct 14 2022 7:22 utc | 220 Mikkado | Oct 14 2022 7:07 utc | 218 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 14 2022 7:28 utc | 221
Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 7:43 utc | 222
Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 7:43 utc | 223 Scott Ritter on NATO’s Nuclear Exercises. Posted by: Almajiri | Oct 14 2022 7:52 utc | 224 @Posted by: Jun | Oct 14 2022 5:43 utc | 206 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 14 2022 7:59 utc | 225 Mikkado | Oct 14 2022 7:07 utc | 218 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 14 2022 8:02 utc | 226
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25118
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14075 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 8:14 utc | 227
If at all, the nukes will fly to UK and the US, or to certain places in the EU/NATO, rather than to any place in the Ukraine. Posted by: Paulg | Oct 14 2022 8:17 utc | 228 “In fierce battles, under the steel rain of Russian shells, we held on to every piece of our land. We stopped the enemy onslaught and buried the myth about the invincibility of the Russian army. And now we’re getting ours back. No one and nothing will stop us,” Zaluzhnyi said in a Twitter post. Posted by: Paulg | Oct 14 2022 8:24 utc | 229 @ 218 Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 14 2022 8:27 utc | 230 Posted by: Andrew | Oct 14 2022 2:23 utc | 188 Posted by: oldwoman | Oct 14 2022 8:31 utc | 231 I opened the DPRK Reading Guide in Google Docs. Posted by: JulianJ | Oct 14 2022 8:32 utc | 232 I wonder what the odds are that NATO (or some wildcat faction within it) plans to use the pretext of this “exercise” to launch a real first strike. Posted by: Martina | Oct 14 2022 8:33 utc | 233
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14163 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 8:34 utc | 234
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14166 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 8:37 utc | 235
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25124 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 8:39 utc | 236 @Down South 134 Posted by: Goingo | Oct 14 2022 8:52 utc | 237 Further to my @ 229, in reply to Mikkado @ 218 Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 14 2022 8:58 utc | 238 Russia has few allies because it has gone out of its way to not make allies. It has completely thrown away the enormous soft power the USSR had. It has been following the asinine line that it needs no allies and has no reason to go to war to save nations even of historically vital importance to it, such as Ukraine. Obese blowhard armchair generals like the Faker and Martyanov have been bleating this line like constipated elephant seals for years, while simultaneously claiming that Russian intelligence knew everything that was going on in Ukranazistan. Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 14 2022 9:00 utc | 239 Goingo | Oct 14 2022 8:52 utc | 236 Posted by: Lapin | Oct 14 2022 9:01 utc | 240 Lapin | Oct 14 2022 9:01 utc | 239 Posted by: Goingo | Oct 14 2022 9:09 utc | 241 Goingo | Oct 14 2022 9:09 utc | 240 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 14 2022 9:28 utc | 242 Now this “continuous loop” with the alleged nuclear weapons threats from Putin…. these threats are ONLY to be heard in the West ❗ Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 14 2022 9:30 utc | 243
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25132 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 9:31 utc | 244 http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/bond-historical-data/ukraine/1-year/ Posted by: Goingo | Oct 14 2022 9:31 utc | 245 LOL it happend again, Ukraine strike arms depot in Russia! Posted by: Zanon | Oct 14 2022 9:39 utc | 246
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14175 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 9:43 utc | 247 @193 Australian lady Posted by: Crazyplanet | Oct 14 2022 9:43 utc | 248 No, slav does not come from “slava”; it comes from “slovo” meaning “word” Posted by: Platero | Oct 14 2022 9:53 utc | 249 If you want to know how ordinary people help the RF army, have a read, have a read. In Russian. If you know Russian, you’d get the feeling better. Posted by: Paulg | Oct 14 2022 9:57 utc | 250 Truly something amazing footage (Spornoye, assumably somewhere in LPR). UAF troops defend an area with a few already destroyed house rubbles, then they get killed by long range tank/artillery shots, then the next wave are fed in exact same spot and bury the previous ones in a hole. Then they are killed etc. conveyor belt at work. This thing can keep going on for another year or more. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 14 2022 10:02 utc | 251 Crazyplanet @247 Posted by: Australian lady | Oct 14 2022 10:04 utc | 252 Melaleuca | Oct 14 2022 9:28 utc | 241 Posted by: Cyberhorse | Oct 14 2022 10:07 utc | 253
Posted by: whirlX | Oct 14 2022 10:33 utc | 254
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14186 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 10:41 utc | 255
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14191 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 10:47 utc | 256 Want to time travel back to the mindfarking days at the very start of RussiaRussiaRussia? Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 14 2022 10:54 utc | 257 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 10:41 utc | 254
They should be careful what they wish for. I hope the RF let them take Kherson city … Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 14 2022 11:03 utc | 258 An article has been posted on the Dances With Bears website detailing what the FSB claims was how the Crimea Bridge bombing was carried out: Posted by: B. Wildered | Oct 14 2022 11:03 utc | 259 @ aristodemos | Oct 13 2022 20:37 utc | 106 Posted by: Anne B | Oct 14 2022 11:22 utc | 260
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25147 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 11:22 utc | 261 @ Down South. Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 14 2022 11:30 utc | 262 @aristodemos | Oct 13 2022 20:49 utc | 112 Posted by: Anne B | Oct 14 2022 11:31 utc | 263 @120 Posted by: Kate Frey | Oct 14 2022 11:34 utc | 264 @248 Platero Posted by: Crazyplanet | Oct 14 2022 11:40 utc | 265
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25150 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 11:43 utc | 266
https://t.me/azmilitary11/25153 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 11:48 utc | 267 Down South @ 260, 265, 266 Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 14 2022 12:29 utc | 268 Just read this at the guardian: Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Oct 14 2022 12:36 utc | 269 German investigators came to the conclusion that the damage on the “Nord Streams” can only be the result of explosions, Posted by: Lapin | Oct 14 2022 12:37 utc | 270 Ooops; I messed up the quote, try again Posted by: Lapin | Oct 14 2022 12:43 utc | 271 Moldova is 100% ancestral Romanian land that was Ribbentop-Molotov’d away by Hitler and Stalin days before kicking off their WW2 SMO against Poland. Posted by: CommiesGOFY | Oct 14 2022 12:47 utc | 272 Posted by: SW (also Berlin) | Oct 14 2022 6:54 utc | 215 Posted by: Passer by | Oct 14 2022 13:08 utc | 273
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14199 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 13:10 utc | 274 Posted by: CommiesGOFY | Oct 14 2022 12:47 utc | 271 Posted by: Boo | Oct 14 2022 13:10 utc | 275 Here’s one of the Ukrainian “experts” analysing the situation, https://youtu.be/NGIf52Dpeow Posted by: Paulg | Oct 14 2022 13:11 utc | 276
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14203 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 13:22 utc | 277 The Ukrainian General Staff continues to accumulate reserves on the Southern Front, at the moment the Armed Forces of Ukraine have assembled a group of 60 thousand, of which half is in Nikolaev and is preparing to strike at Kherson. The Biden administration is urging Zelensky to storm Kherson in order to retake the city before the Senate election and allow the Democrats to use this victory as a symbol. Zaluzhny advocates a phased campaign and warns of heavy losses during the assault on Kherson, which Russian troops have turned into a fortress. Posted by: Paulg | Oct 14 2022 13:27 utc | 278
https://t.me/IntelRepublic/1776 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 13:32 utc | 279 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 13 2022 20:45 utc | 111 Posted by: tPaine | Oct 14 2022 13:32 utc | 280 cyberhorse @ 252 Posted by: Objective Observer | Oct 14 2022 13:35 utc | 281
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14207 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 13:41 utc | 282 ThusspakeZarathustra @268 [re: Elon Musk going cold on the Ukraine] “What happened? Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 14 2022 13:57 utc | 283 “NATO will start a nuclear war exercise next week. In the “Steadfast Noon” exercise, the air forces of 14 NATO countries practice a first nuclear strike from Poland. Scott Ritter think, that is extremely danger and should be cancelled, because of the high tensions between Nato and Russia.” Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 14 2022 13:57 utc | 282 Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 14 2022 14:07 utc | 285 So, blood supplies in England have suddenly become critically low, earlier on in the year there was talk of sending blood to Ukraine, has that now happened? I wonder. Of course, it’s very easy for officials to claim that the shortage is due to Covid. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 14 2022 14:12 utc | 286 but did he fully appreciate that it was the anglosaxon aristocrats who brought communism to Russia as well? Ukrops apparently put Elon Musk on their hit list. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 14 2022 14:21 utc | 288 “… The entire war machine must learn to think faster.” Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 14 2022 14:23 utc | 289 Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 14 2022 13:57 utc | 282 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 14 2022 14:25 utc | 290 pretzelattack @284: “you would think that more elite billionaires would be like this. i mean most of them aren’t even planning to go to Mars, so their asses will get fried along with the plebes.” Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 14 2022 14:29 utc | 291 From Slavyangrad…… Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 14 2022 14:32 utc | 292 It’s not hard to see why, as per one of my above posts , 90% of casualties are through artillery
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1580923752107642880 Posted by: Down South | Oct 14 2022 14:34 utc | 293 Below is a link to the talk by Vladimir Pozner at Yale four years ago that someone here recommended yesterday. Thank you. Such a calm, logical, informative discussion and more relevant than ever. Posted by: Canuckian | Oct 14 2022 14:37 utc | 294 @Melaleuca | Oct 14 2022 8:02 utc | 225
Confirmed. There was a police exercise in the days before and on the same day finishing at 15:00 on the same day matching the incredibly improbable scenario that took place at Utøya island 22. July 2011, the shooting was just a few hours later. It was first a bombing of the Goverment house (PM Stoltenberg’s office) in Oslo, complete with crisis actors + real dead victims. Then it was the mass shooting an hour drive from the city at the Utøya island where Stoltenberg’s party have summer camps every year, and he is always present. Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 14 2022 14:38 utc | 295 Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 14 2022 14:18 utc | 286 Posted by: Brother Ma | Oct 14 2022 14:40 utc | 296 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 13 2022 19:12 utc | 63 Posted by: zeke2u | Oct 14 2022 14:51 utc | 297 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 14 2022 9:00 utc | 238 Posted by: Calgary Guy | Oct 14 2022 15:14 utc | 298 John Bolton: The ultimate US goal should be to remove Putin from power through regime change or targeted assassination Posted by: rk | Oct 14 2022 15:16 utc | 299 I see Putin and Erdogan have agreed to a major gas exporting hub in western Türkiye.
Good news, since Southern Europe is less Russophobic than the north. Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 14 2022 15:17 utc | 300 |
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