Three Good Pieces On The War In Ukraine
I am busy with renovation work but here are three good pieces about the war in Ukraine:
- A war Russia set to win - MK Bhadrakumar / Tribune India
> Plainly put, the Europeans have been nicely played by the Americans. India should take note of the US’ sense of entitlement. Basically, the Biden administration created a contrived energy crisis whose real aim is war profiteering.
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India should expect the defeat of the US and NATO, which completes the transition to a multipolar world order. <
- Why the US must press for a ceasefire in Ukraine - Jack F. Matlock Jr. / Responsible Statecraft
> Increasingly, European publics are likely to blame the United States for policies that fuel inflation and bring on economic recession, especially as their currencies weaken against the dollar. The U.S. sanctions on Russia will be seen by many as self-serving attempts to dominate Western Europe.A new iron curtain is now being imposed on Russia — this time by Western policy — even as the United States announces more measures to confront and “contain” an assertive China. This will result, inevitably, in more cooperation between Russia and China. Also, the increasing use of economic sanctions to achieve political purposes will encounter push-back with a greater volume of international trade conducted in national currencies other than the U.S. dollar.
As Europe is weakened and more countries suffer from U.S. sanctions, coalitions to resist U.S. dominance will flourish. Geopolitical competition will take precedence over action to deal with common problems, even as international conflict intensifies them.
What all the parties to the conflict in Ukraine seem to have forgotten is that the future of mankind will not be determined by where international borders are drawn — these have never been static in history and doubtless will continue to change from time to time. The future of mankind will be determined by whether nations learn to settle their differences peacefully. <
- The Neocons and the Woke Left Are Joining Hands and Leading Us to Woke War III | Opinion - David Sacks / Newsweek
> What makes the "I stand with Ukraine" version of the Twitter mob unique is that it brings together two forces that used to be sworn enemies of one another—the woke Left and the neoconservative Right. It turns out they share many of the same loathsome ideological and personality traits, and have a similar "slash and burn" approach to political engagement. It's a new political marriage.
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This shift is disorienting, but on a purely tactical level, it makes a certain amount of sense. Neocons invented the cancellation game before there was even a Twitter board on which to play it. Neocons arrogantly dismiss the other side's point of view as argued in bad faith and not worth considering, and label anyone who dares question the cause as a heretic or traitor.
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Warping the debate in this way allows delusional and contradictory thinking to go unchallenged. Thus, we get the argument that Putin is a madman who will kill indiscriminately to achieve his aims—but he is also somehow definitely bluffing about using nuclear weapons. And he's only using that bluff because he's losing the war—but if he's not stopped in Ukraine, he will go on to conquer the rest of Europe. Putin's regime must fall because he has killed or jailed all the liberal reformers and yoked himself to a hardline Far Right, but somehow he will be replaced by a liberal reformer when his regime collapses.It's nonsensical, and a real debate would expose some of the delusions in this thinking. But we aren't allowed to have one.
As long as this woke-neocon alliance is allowed to set the terms of the debate, we will continue to see a one-way ratchet toward greater and more dangerous escalation of this conflict. <
Posted by b on October 17, 2022 at 16:22 UTC | Permalink
next page »Bhadrakumar just keeps getting less dispensable. He sums the matter up in a few hundred carefully chosen words.
"...And, for the Russians too, there is still much to be worked out on the battlefield: the oppressed Russian populations in Odessa (which suffered unspeakable atrocities from the neo-Nazis), Mykolaiv, Zaporizhya, Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkov are expecting ‘liberation’. It’s a highly emotive issue for Russia. Again, the overarching agenda of ‘demilitarisation’ and ‘denazification’ of Ukraine must be taken to its logical conclusion..."
The question has been taken out of the hands of the statesmen. It is time for the people of Russia to act.
Posted by: bevin | Oct 17 2022 16:47 utc | 2
The USA will not press for a cease fire. No de-escalation in sight. The conflict will go to full nuclear war. That is why Musk made an appeal for peace. He only got smeared.
Those that are wise will get their assets including their own ass out of the USA and any of her territories.
Blessed are the peacemakers. But, they are not to be found within the ranks of those running the USA and NATO.
Expect full fledged nuclear war soon after Russia takes all of the Donetsk region.
Posted by: young | Oct 17 2022 16:50 utc | 3
The story about Russia blowing up their own pipes is not going to age well.
Posted by: chunga | Oct 17 2022 16:50 utc | 4
I cartoon video from a little known Israeli telegram channel is making rounds today on Runet. YouTube and other Western social media are censoring it as soon as it pops up. This is the original, as far as I know-
💥 🐷 The whole story of the Nazi #ocrophilites right on one leg ! The pictures in the video are real from 2022. Share, because there are still a lot of idiots in the country who don't understand anything.
The channel is worth following.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 17 2022 16:58 utc | 5
Tne 'woke' Left is not the Left, it is a political characterization seeking cultural and political power in a society that has its racist, sexist, and xenophobic history. Neo-conservatives are not Conservatives (the Right?) in the principled anti-war/pro-free commerce sense; they are characterizations of principled thought, but, sadly, their political power flows fairly seamlessly from the dominate policies of U.S. geopolitics since the end of WWII through so-called 'Left' and conservative administrations. The Democratic Party's cynical use of identity politics to curry political support exposes the self-serving weakness born of comforts won by U.S. hegemonic power - one big tent where the world pays. The neo-conservatives are the advancemen (sorry, advancepersons) and the barkers that assure the show keeps going on and the populace remains comfortable with the system. Until the tent rips in a storm, the lions escape rickety cages and the clowns no longer amuse. Then we are the people again, making life good through our common values and exploring our plurality of who we are, with less spectacle and more self-responsibility.
Posted by: peon d. rich | Oct 17 2022 17:04 utc | 6
Perfect, brother. Three great articles. Over and over I hear how stupid the US is. Yes the "leaders" and the talking heads say idiotic things. It's their job to deceive people. It's their job to endlessly repeat falsehoods. Stop focusing on this superficial media circus. It's a distraction. The US has a plan. We hope it fails. But it is not the result of panicked, stupid people. And frankly it has been largely successful: break Europe off from Russian energy and Chinese economic dynamism; boost US agriculture, energy and the MIC. And yes, when you quadruple energy prices the populace rebels. We know, the US planners know, this is going to happen. It's obvious. It's simple. Their bet is they can control it, they can co-op it, with repression, a false narrative, and a faux movement--a faux rebellion. Fascism is the corporate state with a veneer of populist nationalism. But it does not change the underlying power structure--ownership and profits. So who wins? Well you guessed it. We hope not, but...
Posted by: Rodrigo | Oct 17 2022 17:05 utc | 7
Elon Musk:
- Redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision. Russia leaves if that is will of the people.
- Crimea formally part of Russia, as it has been since 1783 (until Khrushchev’s mistake).
- Water supply to Crimea assured.
- Ukraine remains neutral.
Posted by: linus | Oct 17 2022 17:06 utc | 8
Sacks is right with the "woke neocon alliance." Sounds just like Tulsi Gabbard when she said she wanted everyone to leave the Democrat party a few days ago:
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness."
Right after that neocon troll farms unleashed their workers to flood social media telling people that Tulsi is a fake because she works for the World Economic Forum, which is not true, this is the whole story on that. They fear she will convince the people on the right and independents to ignore the neocons of the GOP who are pushing for more escalation in Ukraine and even all out war on Russia.
Posted by: Kali El | Oct 17 2022 17:07 utc | 9
Musk's Starlink needs base stations. Simplifying, if your country is not favorably seen by the US, and you see a neighboring country setting up Starlink base base stations, expect an attempt to overthrow government, somewhere in a radius of 400 miles from the base station.
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 17 2022 17:15 utc | 10
On subject of "reporting", I note this bit on rt:
“That’s not to mention that Bandera scum were and remain Nazis,” he stressed, referring to Ukrainians who have a soft spot for Stepan Bandera – a controversial Ukrainian national hero who collaborated with the Nazi regime during World War II.
I find the description of Bandera to be a bit understated. Why?
Posted by: jared | Oct 17 2022 17:18 utc | 11
Report Germany TV
Ukraine has attacked a city in western Russia with a US missile
Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 17 2022 17:19 utc | 12
Posted by: linus | Oct 17 2022 17:06 utc | 8
I would add a clause:
- Redo elections of Hawaii and Puerto Rico under UN supervision. US leaves if that is will of the people.
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 17 2022 17:22 utc | 13
thx for the links, b, and for your renovation Viel Erfolg!
I have this piece from a 1982 edition of German magazine Der SPIEGEL (dunno if other barflies already posted it). Back then, Washington also lobbied and pressured the West German government to cancel its gas contracts with the Soviets. However, then chancellor Helmut Schmidt, like Scholz from Hamburg and the German Labour party but not nerely as corrupt and feeble as his successor, rebuffed US interventions, stating: "Others can croak all they want, we keep it that way." The pipes were build and provided Germany for decades with cheap energy. It was clear that the Empire would not leave it at that.
Posted by: Seneschal | Oct 17 2022 17:28 utc | 14
Outnumbering everything happening in the West is what's happening in China as I posted on the week in review thread. China has stolen the ball and is going to make the world play a new game using morality as weapon in a way the West cannot undermine. China's 1.4 Billion people are more than the entire West combined and India plus Africa are agreeing with China, making 5 Billion people against the West. Add South America, and most of the planet's people will be onside with China and Russia, even more so than now. The equation is being changed because Xi read some history, 60 year-old history and merely altered the verbiage:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." That was JFK's message at the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, which was portrayed as a development program, back on 13 March 1962. Just replace revolution with development and you have Xi's new doctrine. And it can easily be argued that Ukraine is a model for having its development throttled by the West in its quest to make war on Russia since all the evidence points to that goal.
And so in a few weeks at the G-20 in Bali, Xi's new model will be delivered to a very receptive majority, while great antipathy will be presented by the minority if not outright rejected. But, how can an argument be made against the morality of peaceful development? IMO, none can, although the West has some very twisted minds so something will be voiced. And if you've been following along, Xi's new model had its seed sown back on 4 February within the Joint Declaration with Russia.
JFK's words were made in reaction to the events after 1955's Bandung Congress, where he saw the West having an immoral position in trying to cling to or regain its Colonies. Xi is calling for action to be taken by China first of all to set an example for the RoW to follow, emphasizing each nation must make the model their own based on their own specific characteristics, just as Russia is currently evolving its own version of Socialism with Russian Characteristics.
Sir Bhadrakumar is always a must read, even if he sometimed has the predictable blindspots of the venerable diplomat. But he should be read regarding anything related to the wars along energy and trade corridors. The last link is just the usual hypnotic nonsense from the spectacular culture war "altright vs woke" that the murikan public is so easily distracted with. The ruling class has to give them bread and circus.
Another good article is from the site who confirmed to those in denial, the great Russian-Iranian deal that provided Rus MOD with asymmetrical drone warfare capacity, essential as Russia was not prepared, even regarding stockpiles of cruise missiles.. The Ukrops in Kiev just got another taste of the suicide drones.
THE CIA’S INVISIBLE WAR ON RUSSIA: WHO IS WINNING IN THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THE WAR? https://ejmagnier.com/2022/10/14/the-cias-invisible-war-on-russia-who-is-winning-in-the-bigger-picture-of-the-war/
"For a long time, the CIA did not act so openly against Russia, and the United States did not engage in a war of this magnitude against a superpower country determined to win at all costs. However, Ukraine’s territory is the theatre of the military operations, and the collateral (economic) damage affects Europe this time, the natural US partner in its last decades’ wars. Washington can withstand long years of this war of attrition. Does Moscow have the patience to sustain a long battle with the will to win at any cost? It seems so to Putin’s determination to grab more Ukrainian territories and destroy more of the country’s infrastructure. Undoubtedly the belligerents are preparing for a hot but rather cold forthcoming winter.
History observes the shake-up of the Pax Americana that is taking place in modern times. Russia, China, Iran, India, Pakistan and other states are prepared for new world order. This is building up in Asia with solid industry, an exchange of trade in local currency, large reserves of food, and a prosperous future for those who represent almost half of the world’s population. This leaves the West, which means only 11 per cent of the world’s population, struggling to find enough energy to fill up its gasoline stations and thinking about its crumbling industry and gas reserves in 2023"
Posted by: Kareem | Oct 17 2022 17:40 utc | 16
Kali El | Oct 17 2022 17:07 utc | 9
Is it so much better that, according to the Honolulu local newspaper, she now works for Army public affairs/psyops and has been since June 2020? You know, when the COVID information crackdown began?
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 17 2022 17:41 utc | 17
Kali El | Oct 17 2022 17:07 utc | 9
I too cannot remain in the Democratic party nor will I join the Republican party as when it comes to funding the war in Ukraine they are all one in the same. As far as "cowardly wokeness" I'm not sure what you mean by that. Maybe just a few examples so I can get up to speed with all this.
Posted by: Vallette | Oct 17 2022 17:42 utc | 18
The woke left is a contrived amalgamation of those who identify as leftists, but are not aware or knowledgeable about historical leftism. These are people deceived - thinking that the Democratic Party (warmongers which currently endeavor to privatize medicare because corp.whors) is somehow leftist in spite of all its actions to the contrary.
It is quite a clever trick really. It has been a trick ongoing since before Charles Manson killed the hippie (effectively the peace/antiwar) movement.
One can't be leftist and be pro-war or support the War Machine in any way. UNless perhaps for actual defense.
But you've got these woke people. And half of them or more haven't a clue what's happening in Ukraine or elsewhere, NATO intrusion/harrassment. False Flag attacks, Color Revolutions, Coups, General Shit stirring.
Woke should be a good thing, but it's a stupid thing now. Thanks to the guys at Langley who have thoroughly controlled the narrative and everything else since 1963.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Oct 17 2022 17:43 utc | 19
The constantly changing categories, identities and contradictions speaks of cultural warfare and the attendant alphabet agencies. These kind of psyops are greatly amplified by the power of the interwebz. A meta-level above this is the ability to program huge swaths of the population to NOT even look at evidence or information because they are conditioned to dismiss it as disinformation, baseless conspiracy theory, etc. So for example when I say "Are you aware of the far right sektor and nazi affiliated paramilitaries?" I am met with "Oh that's just something Putin says". By a similar mechanism Hillary Clinton can refer to the SMO as 'completely unprovoked' and many people will believe it without question despite ample evidence to the contrary. These sorts of dynamics have been cranked up to the extreme such that intelligent and reasonable people are completely swept away in the torrent of propaganda. Example: "Russia has more land than any other nation, but they just wanted more!!" As if that were the motivation for the current conflict... The list goes on, and I am sure y'all can add an example or three, suffice it to say that it can be tricky for a person to stay afloat in the sea of propaganda.
In regard to the USA "bringing down the house" in a flurry of controlled chaos and creative destruction, these things rarely go as planned. I predict a great Turning Away accompanied by smaller nations arming to the teeth and getting Russian and Chinese assistance. Given the wake of destruction following the USA and it's draconian policies more and more people a calling for rejection. Now the pain is being felt for real by "people that matter" and they can no longer deny the ill intent being thrust upon them. Europe will crumble if it remains on this trajectory, and one way or another something has got to give. African nations have begun giving colonials the boot, and it is hard to imagine that Russia and China will give them a deal that is any worse than what got from the IMF and World Bank.
As far as the Grand Conflict goes, The Gauntlet has been thrown down and there is no chance of turning back. I agree with the posts above in that it will have to get played out. Russia cannot afford to be encroached on any more if it wants to survive and the USA will not die quietly. The bitter irony is that the USA could (in some fantasy democracy, not currently in existence)gracefully pull back its military bases, cease meddling in the affairs of others, and redirect the reckless squandering to its own crumbling infrastructure. Alas the people doing the manipulating do not have this in their vocabulary....
Posted by: Chevrus | Oct 17 2022 17:46 utc | 20
Not only will Europeans be cold and hungry and probably jobless into deep winter, they will also get the living crap beat out of them by government security agencies of all sorts when they attempt to protest. Maybe another virus lock down to keep the ensuing protest/riots down in numbers? The only good news I heard through rumor is that Sanna Marin PM of Finland will keep night clubs open during rolling blackouts.
Posted by: Erelis | Oct 17 2022 17:48 utc | 21
Why don't true American patriots who are aware that their country's political system may be leading us straight into a world war realize that it may be time to end the duopoly of the two major parties and promote a new transcendent party with leaders like Tulsi Gabbard? Because if the U.S. escapes world war, it will not escape civil war, so deep is the divide in this country.
Posted by: Ibrah | Oct 17 2022 17:48 utc | 22
The Kremlin has tried to arrange peace talks, but the USA has dismissed any notion of them, for anyone still under the illusion that Zelensky is in control in Ukraine, this will knock that idea on the head.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/10/13/caitlin-johnstone-us-rejects-moscows-offer-to-talk/
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 17 2022 17:51 utc | 23
There will be no peaceful resolution to this conflict that America doesn't at least have a hand in negotiating, and we should be leading the effort. Instead, we've been deferring to the Ukrainians
I was pretty excited to see Sacks piece in Newsweek if only because he linked to the Atlantic interview (Read: calling in to account for himself!) of Obama by arch neocon Jeffrey Goldberg and Obama explaining in very simple terms that this was a Cod War.
But this last comment about 'deferring to the Ukrainians' is very shameful. The US isn't deferring to Ukraine, Ukraine will continue to eschew negotiations until the US lets them to shift the blame and suggest otherwise is deeply shameful. Though this is what I expected, when it all got too real the US would blame the Ukrainians for the whole war and throw their vassal leadership under the bus. It seems this way is the only one the US could accept in order to save face. Sad.
Ukrainians didn't want this war, the neocons in the US state department wanted it and they had as much say in that as US citizens have or indeed citizens in the 'democratic' West have had on almost all policy for the last 40 years. To ignore this is to ignore the shameful use of Ukraine as cannon fodder in a proxy war. That "Operation: Protect Ukrainian sovereignty" always entailed the use of the sacrifice of Ukrainian blood and soil to the neocons war on Russia.
Posted by: Altai | Oct 17 2022 17:53 utc | 24
Mo3 12
The US has hit a Russian city with a pissile. She pulled mine first.
Is that supposed to make the Germans feel better or worse? I helps to take their minds off the US blowing up their energy security? or, it confirms their worst fears about the prats in charge?
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 17 2022 17:58 utc | 25
I wish someone w/ a "following" (yeah, I know) would try to gain traction w/ a campaign to tell ALL Americans to boycott the vote this November. What if only 8% of eligible voters who actually vote, which is itself a much smaller group than the general voting age population, didn't show up to the polls at all? Then, when TPTB go ahead and place their preferred candidates into office, we could give other countries the 100% valid ability to declare our elections for the sham they are. Of course mass peaceful protests and stop-work strikes would be a nice addition.
Problem is (myself included, until I see actual traction) Americans are too lazy or complacent or in a lot of cases brainwashed and held under the trance of their choice of corporate bankster owned/Langley infiltrated media.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 17 2022 17:58 utc | 26
Joseph Biden said; “The United States is never going to recognize this. And quite frankly, the world's not going to recognize it either,” adding that Putin “can’t seize his neighbor’s territory and get away with it.”
Joseph Biden seems to think that the Jew Zelensky and his buddies once controlled all of Ukraine.
Seems to think that Zelensky, and his bunch of thieves, whose government came to power in the 2014 coup, should get Crimea, Donbass,... everything,... the lot.
However, the East-Ukrainians did not want this.
They considered the coup government illegitimate, as it assuredly was.
They fought a civil war to prevent the coup government from taking over.
For sure, East-Ukraine should never ever go to Zelensky and his buddies.
The Jew Zelensky seems to think that because his buddies infiltrated (both sides) of the parliament, and conducted a coup, in 2014 he and his bunch of thieves should get Crimea, Donbass,... everything,... the lot.
To understand the Ukraine-Russia war you have to understand the second world war.
To understand the second world war you need to read this article:
http:// pre earth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1174
REMOVE the spaces from the URL
You need to know that Hitler was a double agent.
There is also an informative article on the COVID SCAM on the same page.
Posted by: censored | Oct 17 2022 18:00 utc | 27
Re my (23) comment.
In my opinion the USA is playing nuclear wargames with the lives of every living creature on this planet by refusing to help aid peace talks, who exactly do these people in charge in Washington think they are. They certainly don't speak for the rest of the world, and if there is the slightest chance that peace could breakout, they should be bending over backwards to facilitate it.
But of course, we are dealing with people who don't value other people's lives, and put a profit before suffering. The people of American need to wake up and take action, it's their government that's putting the entire planet at risk by refusing to entertain peace talks.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 17 2022 18:00 utc | 28
The Newsweek (newspeak) article was bunk. Woke is a diversion for those not interested by sports or other elements of the entertainment complex, it is a safe space for personal rebellion without changing the major political or economic power dynamics.
Didn't Obama just give a speech urging the Democrats to dial back on the wokeness issues?
Though that was not the word he could use.
https://nypost.com/2022/10/15/barack-obama-blasts-cancel-culture-calls-dems-buzzkill/
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 17 2022 18:05 utc | 29
Do not underestimate how popular this war is. Granted I live in a blue hive. Friends and family who are not blue think pretty much the same. Here are a few heard recently.
"Washington has been afraid of Moscow for seventy years. Finally we get to kick some Russian butt. Thank God for Joe Biden."
"When this is over Russia will be so hurt no amount of vodka will help the pain."
"Zelensky is one of the great ones. Like Milton Berle, Jack Benny, or Mel Brooks. And Churchill."
Have to say the most fervid unhinged "We stand with Ukraine" cohort are Jewish. When this all started in February endless acquaintances were claiming younger members of the extended family were volunteering to go be mercenaries. A few did get there, they are all Jewish. Their families are totally behind them. I need to torture logic to see why any Jew would want this but I observe and there it is.
Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 17 2022 18:15 utc | 30
Now this is remarkable...
Turks with the Turkish flag at the voluntary enlisted personnel of the Russian Armed Forces.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14961
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 17 2022 18:18 utc | 31
B you need an 'h' in front of the second link as it now is 'ttps:etc.'should be 'https:etc'. responsible statecraft link
Posted by: horatio | Oct 17 2022 18:18 utc | 32
The article by MK Bhadrakumar is supported by the latest video at "the new atlas"
Russian Gains in Bakhmut, Ukraine Overextended, & US Lectures India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJy3B25Exfs
Posted by: Krollchem | Oct 17 2022 18:27 utc | 33
I don't think Europe offers any hope of resistance to the US, now or ever. As a general culture, they are effete, played out and willing to be servants of the US. Freezing and losing jobs may not change that. Look at support for the Greens, giving up nuclear power, giving up INF, Open Skies.
After 2014, the French gave up building Mistrals, despite good jobs and a contract. The Baltic states seem to exist to oppose Russia, well above caring for their own people. There is already talk that Netherland's farmers have been defeated.
After a Swedish woman was raped by an Afghan refugee, she apologized for getting him into trouble. That sums up Europe more than you might think.
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 17 2022 18:36 utc | 34
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/10/16/the-response-newsguard-rejected/
"NewsGuard" is the latest USG-corporate joint "public" private partnership to control the narrative.
Consortium News still has a red label for their correct reporting on the Maidan coup in 2013/2014.
NewsGuard is a private corporation that can shield itself from First Amendment obligations. But it has connections to formerly high-ranking U.S. government officials in addition to its “partnerships” with the State Dept. and the Pentagon.Among those sitting on NewsGuard’s advisory board are Gen. Michael Hayden, the former Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency director; Tom Ridge, the first U.S. Homeland Security director and Anders Fogh Rasmussen, a former secretary general of NATO. NewGuard says its “advisors provide advice and subject-matter expertise to NewsGuard. They play no role in the determinations of ratings or the Nutrition Label write ups of websites unless otherwise noted and have no role in the governance or management of the organization.”
The co-CEO, with former Wall Street Journal publisher Louis Gordon Crovitz, is Steven Brill, who in the 1990s published Brill’s Content, a magazine that was billed as a watchdog of the press, critiquing the role of the media to hold government to account. NewsGuard is a government-affiliated organization judging media like Consortium News that is totally independent of government or corporations.
NewsGuard has a rating process that results in a news organization receiving either a green or red label. Fox News and other major media, for example, have received green labels.
Getting a red label means that potentially millions of people that have the NewsGuard extension installed and operating on their browsers will see the green or red mark affixed to websites on social media and Google searches. (For individuals that do not already have it installed and operating on Microsoft’s browser, it costs $4.95 a month in the U.S., £4.95 in the U.K., or €4.95 in the EU to run the extension.)
According to NewsGuard, libraries in the U.S. and Britain have had it installed on their computers, and it is also being put on computers of U.S. active duty personnel. Slate reported in January 2019 that NewsGuard:
“struck a deal with Microsoft to incorporate those ratings into the tech giant’s Edge browser as an optional setting. That’s when the Guardian noticed that the Mail Online had been tagged by NewsGuard with a ‘red’ label, a reliability score of 3 out of 9, and the following warning: ‘Proceed with caution: This website generally fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability.’ For Microsoft Edge users with the ‘News Ratings’ feature turned on, that warning appeared alongside every link to the Mail Online—whether in Google search results, Facebook or Twitter feeds, or the Mail’s own homepage.
NewSpeakGuard invites consumers of news to submit corrections add themselves to a Government watchlist when they spot something wrong in their reporting propaganda.
This is an excellent example of why Parry started Consortium News: to report on crucial information that corporate media sometimes purposely and deceptively leave out to change the meaning of a story. NewsGuard should correct its story about the coup, not Consortium News. NewsGuard invites readers to request corrections by emailing them at [email protected].
The whole Consortium News article is a must bookmark because it details every element of the coup from beginning to end to where we find ourselves now. One of the longest I've ever seen at the site.
P.S. I'm getting a LOT of time out errors lately when posting comments. Clipboard has become my friend. Is this a new approach to rooting out the spammers and trolls?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 17 2022 18:41 utc | 35
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 17 2022 18:36 utc | 34
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As a German, I see it that way.
Shaking heads at the Greens' election results...
The German ducks, the Frenchman is clubbed down, the Dutchman is destroyed by the state and state funds (tax review, company closure)!
Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 17 2022 18:41 utc | 36
oldhippie | Oct 17 2022 18:15 utc | 30
At a family gathering friday I was assured "we are winning, Russia can't last much longer" and my son and family visiting from Switzerland
said everything is hunky-dory in Switzerland, won't have any problems this winter. I keep thinking "The Fourth Turning" by Strauss and Howe nailed it in the 90's
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 17 2022 18:41 utc | 37
I find it strange that Bhadrakumar and even Putin talk about the eventual transition to a new "multipolar" world. The new world order will not be multipolar at all; rather, it will be unipolar, led by the Eurasian axis of China, Russia, India, and their allies in Africa and South America. The reality is that the degenerating West has nothing to offer the rest of the world except violence and economic chains. Europe, in particular, makes nothing the world needs--without Europe, the rest of the world wouldn't miss a beat. But that is not true in reverse--Europe needs EVERYTHING in the way of resources from the rest of the world. And the U.S., slightly more resource-rich than Europe in some areas, has strong trade relations only with Western Europe, which is going to be forced eventually into joining the Eurasian axis and Europe. So where does that leave the U.S.? Merely an isolated "midget pole" in the new world order.
Posted by: FHTEX | Oct 17 2022 18:47 utc | 38
It seems pretty clear that Jews are heavily involved in both the Neocon and the Woke movements. Ignoring that does nobody any favors, and certainly makes any analysis of the apparent alliance of the two worthless.
Is it antisemitic to point out the obvious? If it is, then that makes my point for me.
Posted by: Socratic Dog | Oct 17 2022 18:47 utc | 39
Was it really a right-wing neo-Nazi coup?
It is notable that the 2014 coup government found positions for the Jew Arseniy Yatsenyuk (Prime Minister of Ukraine, 27 February 2014), and the Jew Vitali Klitschko (Mayor of Kiev, 25 May 2014) but no position was found for the (supposed) neo-Nazi Oleh Tyahnybok (Svoboda Party leader) when he lost his position in the parliament some months later (October 2014).
So much for the fable of neo-Nazi's taking over Ukraine in a right-wing coup. The neo-Nazis just provided a smoke screen for the Jew takeover.
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Posted by: censored | Oct 17 2022 18:49 utc | 40
I need to torture logic to see why any Jew would want this but I observe and there it is.Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 17 2022 18:15 utc | 30
Logic is best tortured in Kiev, they are good at it. Spare yourself the aggravation.
Khazaria is their ancestral homeland, not Israel.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 17 2022 18:53 utc | 41
My thoughts on the EU's Gascap as reported by RT: "EU mulls capping gas price at biggest trading hub." Hypothetically, this ought to affect LNG imports from the Outlaw US Empire whose exporters will scream at their inability to reap excess profits due to the price cap, which was aimed at Russia. As far as I'm aware, there's no Russian gas available on the spot market to regulate via a price cap as all is delivered via long term contracts and paid in rubles. Given prior practice of Empire exporters, it's very likely their cargoes will head to Asia instead of gas starved Europe as they seek the most profit. That will naturally increase Europe's gas crisis as everyone has predicted. Given the following reports, it appears some are having second thoughts:
"Adoption of the draft proposal is reportedly scheduled for Tuesday, October 18. However, Reuters later reported that EU ambassadors will discuss it at an extraordinary meeting in Luxembourg later on Monday.
"The news of the proposal comes ahead of an EU summit in Brussels scheduled for October 21-22, in which member states will discuss solutions for the energy crisis."
There's only one way to lower gas prices but EU will never do the right thing--force Germany to open the one string of NS2 and drop sanctions on Russian gas. If EU wants gas, it will have to pay the extortionate prices it brought upon itself.
Message NTV
First Starlink units available in Iran !
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The US-controlled coup is not far from where Starlink appears
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https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Erste-Starlink-Einheiten-im-Iran-verfuegbar-article23656868.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3NjsXO59NIzZ6ZtYTV3UP6ir4YNnZWX6BAnA-UEc061eMqNG9jaaYwku8#Echobox=1666030570
Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 17 2022 18:55 utc | 43
Pepe Escobar:
https://t.me/rocknrollgeopolitics/5238
Guess who's most likely to succeed that sorry piece of Norwegian wood, Stultifyinberg, as leader of NATO.
The Draghistan Fuhrer.
Makes total sense. A weaponized Goldman Sachs weasel.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 17 2022 18:56 utc | 44
Posted by: Mo3 | Oct 17 2022 18:55 utc | 43
So Starlink is a tool for US color revolutions? Quelle surprise. This would be a very good reason for Xi and Modi wake up and take it down together with Russia and deny the west from space.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 19:03 utc | 45
Thanks for those articles, especially the first two.
I think most of us here read Vineyard of the Saker as well.
I have found some other sites that you might enjoy (if you weren’t aware of them already):
Larry Johnson
Big Serge
Pam Ho
Dreizin Report
Tom Luongo
Responsible Statecraft
The Cradle
Consortium News
Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 17 2022 19:04 utc | 46
@Seneschal | Oct 17 2022 17:28 utc | 14
many thanks for that link to 1982 article in Der Spiegel! Great find, worth to know how the US establishment reacted to the gas pipeline to West Germany. That pipeline was working and Soviet Union and later Russia did stick to the agreement.
Posted by: fanto | Oct 17 2022 19:08 utc | 47
The expression 'woke-neocon alliance' is really 9th circle of hell type shit. This really is the reign of Elagabalus now.
Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 17 2022 19:09 utc | 48
Is it so much better that, according to the Honolulu local newspaper, she now works for Army public affairs/psyops and has been since June 2020? You know, when the COVID information crackdown began?Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 17 2022 17:41 utc | 17
You seem to be using the broad category public affairs/psyops to imply that Gabbard is likely associated with COVID-related activity of that organization. That's no more valid than implying that she's likely associated with any arbitrary branch of the organization.
According to an August 2020 press release issued by her congressional office (and cited here), she would be joining a Civil Affairs reserve unit on a deployment to Alaska to work with Alaska Native tribes.
Posted by: David Levin | Oct 17 2022 19:15 utc | 49
To get india and pakistan operating in more unison is the real game. Every power has used the divide easily on them for advantage. Time for both nations to get BRICS serious and throw off USA dead weight.
Posted by: Hankster | Oct 17 2022 19:17 utc | 50
I seem to recall some guy back in the day - GW Bush? - questioning the wisdom of waging war in Afghanistan by destroying 10c tents using $10k missiles. The way you folks are talking about missiles and drones it seems that the Yanks have learned nothing since.
Posted by: Guy L'Estrange | Oct 17 2022 19:18 utc | 51
SwissArmyMan @ 37
…and my son and family visiting from Switzerland said everything is hunky-dory in Switzerland, won't have any problems this winter. I keep thinking "The Fourth Turning" by Strauss and Howe nailed it in the 90's
https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2022/10/12/credit-suisse-what-exactly-is-going-on-at-the-global-investment-giant-have-they-hit-bottom-yet/?sh=40658c4dd59e
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 17 2022 19:23 utc | 53
@31 Norwegian
That is remarkable.
Hella ti-yeeet, as the kids would say (20 years ago).
If it comes to forced-conscription here in the states, I will do what I can to scramble that effort. Better not issue me any live ammo, fed-boy.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 17 2022 19:28 utc | 54
@41 opportknocks
Give them the rump state or what's left.
Not having access to the Black Sea, which Russia will include in their stipulation for cease-fire, New-Khazaria will be land-locked and under fierce regulation and control.
Just in time for the liberation of Palestine which could be administered peacefully by Turkey?
Lebenstraum for the Talmudists. A Kibbutz for every small-hat.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 17 2022 19:36 utc | 55
Those who seem to think that they have a chance at surviving a US-Russian nuclear exchange are adorable LOL
Even in the global south hundreds of millions would die. Not only due to radioactive fallout but more due to food shortages.
I gladly will be one of the first to go as I live close to a major target city. If Im lucky enough I will go out in the first few seconds via heat vaporization.
Posted by: Comandante | Oct 17 2022 19:38 utc | 56
Sure, the US supplied super-duper Himars, it might supply even the NASAMs, but can the US supply electricity and heating to the Ukraine, starting from now?
Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 19:49 utc | 57
Meanwhile the NGO's are tearing the place apart.
Laura Ruggeri
Born in Milan, she moved to Hong Kong in 1997. A former academic, in recent years she has been investigating colour revolutions and hybrid warfare. Her analyses and opinion pieces have been published by China Daily, DotDotNews, Qiao Collective, Guancha (观察者网), The Centre for Counter-hegemonic Studies, et al. Her work has been translated into Italian, Chinese and Russian.
Obviously, the EU has always had an interest in matters beyond its own borders. For instance, the 2003 European Security Strategy (ESS) had already recommended “preventive engagement” through the promotion of “a ring of well-governed countries to the East of the European Union”(1) but lacked an institutional framework to coordinate efforts. A step change was urged by the US after the Munich speech.In May 2008, at the EU’s General Affairs and External Relations Council in Brussels, Poland and Sweden put forward the proposal of a special partnership with Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine. During the Prague Summit of May 2009, the concept was officially translated into the Eastern Partnership (EaP).
Ostensibly the EaP was launched to strengthen economic and political cooperation between the EU and the ex-Soviet countries in parallel with cooperation with Russia, but it soon became clear that its real objectives were rather different: tear these countries away from Russia, pull them into the West’s sphere of influence, where they were expected to contribute to the common security and defense policy of the EU and, last but not least, turn them into a springboard for the hybrid war that was to be waged against Russia.
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The Forum doesn’t make a mystery of its activities: “The CSF has organized national platforms in order to have more influence at the governmental level in the EaP states. To some extent, the European Commission also functions as a sort of patron in countries with democratic and constitutional deficits that enables civil society groups to formulate public criticism and gives them more freedom of action. For example, the Belarusian platform has used this freedom of action to develop into a pro-European umbrella organization.”(6) We all know what happened in Belarus in 2020. As is often the case with this kind of “civil society” initiatives, NED provides expertise and support.
In 2012 the CSF established a Secretariat, thus making it even clearer that civil society action is a profession. Local NGOs can apply to participate in the annual Forum but… they are selected by the European External Action Service! Unsurprisingly the CSF is filled with activists, staffers and grantees of Soros’ Open Society and similar outfits. In this fraudulent scheme the EU pays for Soros’ influence operations and guarantees a return on his investments.
But of course CFS and Open Society Foundations are not the only show in town. EaP countries are teeming with NGOs. When it comes to the weaponization of civil society, one of the busiest actors in the EaP is the European Endowment for Democracy (EED), established in 2013 by the EU on the model of its better-known US homologue NED.
EED and NED have spared no efforts in shaping the information, cultural and political landscape of post-Soviet coutries. I could mention dozens of examples, but that’s beyond the scope of this article, so i invite the reader to take a look at NED and EED annual reports.
In Moldova, just to narrow the scope, they supported news outlets, radio and TV programs in Russian and Romanian language that played a critical role in the election of Maia Sandu by attacking and discrediting her political opponents. The irony is that these news outlets are described as “independent” in EED documents. From one of these reports we learn that influencers and popular musicians such as Pasha Parfeny, who had represented Moldova in the 2012 Eurovision Song contest with his song Lautar, were coopted and funded by EED to advance its agenda.(7)
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 19:59 utc | 58
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 17 2022 19:23 utc | 53
Thankfully it was not Banking that took my son there from Texas, no doubt the Swiss Banks are only a tiny notch above the German!
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 17 2022 20:00 utc | 59
Looks like MoA has become another Tony Cartalucci hall of mirrors circle jerk. Sad AF bro.
Posted by: Wester | Oct 17 2022 20:02 utc | 60
The US supplies Himars and other military equipment to the Ukraine. That's a crime against Russian people. A few hours ago, The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry has officially called Iran "an accomplice in Russia's crimes against Ukraine."
The US/NATO/EU and the unfriendly countries are in (in)direct military action against the Russians!
Anyway, can the US/NATO/EU and the unfriendly countries supply electricity and heating to the Ukraine right now, and in the coming winter season? Up to May 2023?
Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 20:16 utc | 61
Posted by: Ibrah | Oct 17 2022 17:48 utc | 22
Ever hear of Libertarians?
Posted by: Oso de Los Llanos | Oct 17 2022 20:22 utc | 62
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 17 2022 18:05 utc | 29
No. It is much more than a distraction. School programs are being changed, billions are funneled in radical progressive think tanks, billions are extorted from companies for the cause, many are getting cancelled, laws are changed… The social stratum has changed in just under 5 years.
Woke is a way for the politicians to rally people around their messages, yes. But that is has no change on political or economic power dynamics? It seems to me too naive.
I see woke as an organic result of a society that has evolved beyond physical needs. And of drugs, lots of drugs.
Posted by: alek_a | Oct 17 2022 20:28 utc | 63
All I can think of is that the US is planning for a Marahal Plan 2.0.
While the whole world goes up in a conflagration she sits pretty on her island continent, “I am, and there is none besides me. I will never be a widow or suffer the loss of children.”
Posted by: Johnycomelately | Oct 17 2022 20:32 utc | 64
Posted by: Oso de Los Llanos | Oct 17 2022 20:22 utc | 62
"Ever hear of Libertarians?"
I have - for the last fifty years. The problem with "big L" Libertarians - i.e., the Party version - is that, as Bob Black once said, they're just Republicans who smoke dope. Example: Dana Rohrabacher, former California Congressman, used to be an alleged "anarchist and Libertarian" in the '70s, but who has been Republican since 1988.
The Lib Party has never gotten more than a couple percentage points in elections since they started. They're useless. All so-called "third parties" are useless. There is no "political solution" to anything. The solution is anti-politics (if there is a "solution", which I doubt.)
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 17 2022 20:34 utc | 65
Posted by: Wester | Oct 17 2022 20:02 utc | 60
IMO, valid and logically consistent countervailing narratives to the prevailing ones here are always entertained in good faith. It's just that we all already know what the establishment is saying about Russia Ukraine, so what's the point in talking about it here except to debunk or add the context that has otherwise been censored, bro?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 17 2022 20:35 utc | 66
@65 RSH: What the hell is "anti-politics"?
Sounds ethereal and whifty. Not the M.O. of RSH.
=== Separately, responding to your "if there is a solution" remark ...
One solution would be if people would actually do something (almost anything) instead of hiding under the bed.
That would certainly help some, don't you think?
:)
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 17 2022 20:43 utc | 67
KaliEl@9
Tulsi Gabbard has a good read of the reality of the times, a growing awakening and awareness that things are not what the ought to be in an allegedly "democratic" society.
If I could introject a single though into Gabbard's presentation, it would be her usage of "democratic" to describe a party which only wears a mask of democracy. It, like the GOP, is run from the top down, in this inverted world of the pyramidal form of social organization. The Republicans are controlled by their RNC, while the Democrats owe obeisance to the DNC.
There is nothing genuinely democratic amongst the Democrats, including their hodgepodge catering to various allegedly "minority" special interest groups who themselves are also, as in the case of BLM, controlled by the likes of George Soros. As for the Republicans, there is plenty of ass-licking going on at the highest levels of their party by embedded corporate and Bank$ter interests.
In short, if Gabbard is to present herself as a genuine populist, she will need to mount a no holds barred assault on both parties as presently constituted. It might get her "terminated with extreme prejudice", but there are other Tulsis in the waiting room and if more than a single one of them make a concerted effort at presenting her as a martyr, as were JFK, RFK and MLK; awakening Americans will hie to the message like a kitten to warm milk.
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 17 2022 20:44 utc | 68
Other than the gender bending, there is nothing that is radically progressive. It's the same old corporate pay to play revolving door its always been. That's where the big money is. Where its always been.
There has been nothing substantive, nothing progressive to improve the lives of the commons.
The think tanks are MIC warmongering orgs. Nothing new there either.
The Epstein pedo blackmail issue threatened the halls of power, but the judiciary made a mockery of it. There were no johns arrested, let alone names mentioned in court.
The tv news always lies. It's controlled by the CIA which is expert at divide and conquer the plebes.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Oct 17 2022 20:54 utc | 69
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 17 2022 18:56 utc | 44
I don't do Telegram too well, because it wants to know my phone number.
Unfortunately, I have not yet been to Norway, but have had very positive reports, even quite recently of friends who have been there, and before then about 20 years ago, my brother, and brother-in-law worked in Norway in the building industry for several years.
My cousin, loved Sweden so much, that he spent most of his life there.
I mainly meet Scandinavian (and Russian) people in Southern Meditteranean countries, or mainly Siberians in the Indian Ocean. Freezing cold - to Blazing hot.
I have never had a problem with any of them. They have always been incredibly generous and friendly, and can drink even more alcohol than me.
Americans have never been in the competition.
Completely different culture, though I have worked with many brilliant hardworking Americans, but they can never "let go" and trust anyone. They have to remain in control, which is the ultimate paranoia.
Most of the rest of the rest of the world just do our best to get on and make friends, sometimes using little bits of different mainly European Languages.
Sometimes, my wife and I have found it incredibly funny, travelling in distant lands as tourists.
Neither of us have ever had any interest in wars, nor joined any military.
The human race has learned nothing. It's got worse.
Nuclear WWIII here we come. High chance, we will all be dead by Christmas, because of the lunatics, we allowed to take control.
"HAPPY XMAS (WAR IS OVER). (Ultimate Mix, 2020) John & Yoko Plastic Ono Band + Harlem Community Choir"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_kj60DIq2M
Tony
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Oct 17 2022 20:56 utc | 70
Lot of TG channels talk about Iranian kamikaze drones, but none (or most) mentions them as Geran-2 or other Russian code names. The thing is none of these TG channels can prove that they are not Russian produced flying bombs or not.
Let's for a moment consider that these drones are actually made in Iran, and they make havoc with the US backed Ukrainian military regime. They are doing things that the super-duper Himars cannot do, they destroy large buildings, large infrastructure etc, while the Himars could only make few holes in the Antonovski bridge roadbed. For the last few days these drones are cutting down the electricity and heating supply of the (western) Ukraine. One of these days, they'd take out the Ukrainian banking system, and maybe the server parks too. Without electricity nothing much any country can do these days.
Well, what would the US going to do? Attack Teheran? Attack Moscow? Or Biden is going to hide his head under a pillow?
Posted by: Paulg | Oct 17 2022 21:00 utc | 71
"Musk's Starlink needs base stations."
It also needs FCC licenses.
Posted by: ian | Oct 17 2022 21:01 utc | 72
Ibrah@22
Amongst the American people, the current breakdown is between the "Wokeies" and the Awakening ones. The divide is primarily centered on suburbanites (primarily women) who have college degrees, versus those who chose or fell into a differing trajectory in their lives. Rural folk may not be able to boast about the various letters, signaling economic and social virtue, posted proudly after their surnames. However, unlike the prissy, preppie burly babies, they do possess reasonable levels of common sense.
As more than half of all Americans live in suburbs, it would superficially seem that the Wokies are in the drivers' seats. However, some fair proportion of even those suburbanites, there is a subgroup who make their livings with their hands and bodies, not sitting on their butts and staring at screens for 8 hours per day.
So I would argue that there is developing a realignment of political reality. The dividing line is no longer Democrat vs. Republican, rather it hinges upon the chasm between the majority of degreed individuals, who for economic and social reasons, desperately cling to their cognitive dissonance comfort zone; as against those who still possess something of that independent yet cooperative spirit which signaled life in an earlier America.
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 17 2022 21:06 utc | 73
OldHippie@30
Perhaps the city fathers of Skokie, Shaker Heights and similar ethnic enclaves could open their homes to Ukrainian refugees when "worse comes to worse" (as they would see it), probably as soon as February. Of course, the refugees they would welcome would appreciate the Kosher diets.
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 17 2022 21:13 utc | 74
Eighth Man@34
Perhaps that Swedish woman liked being pounded by cut meat.
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 17 2022 21:16 utc | 75
The EU must choose. Partner with unipolar US-NATO or multipolar Russia and China. Russia and China offer prosperity through global peace, stability and security. The US (NATO) offers US prosperity through global conflict, instability and insecurity. But since the sanctions designed to weaken Russia's economy have backfired on the US and its Western lemmings, the choice is moot.
Posted by: Willow | Oct 17 2022 21:16 utc | 76
Musk's Starlink needs base stations. Simplifying, if your country is not favorably seen by the US, and you see a neighboring country setting up Starlink base base stations, expect an attempt to overthrow government, somewhere in a radius of 400 miles from the base station.
Would seem a simple matter to gin up a commando team to take a base station, and transport it to a friendly lab somewhere, to determine how to defeat it.
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 17 2022 21:23 utc | 77
patroklos@48
At least Elogabalus had during his brief reign the luxury of good times with gladiators and centurions. Neither senators McConnell nor Graham enjoy that level of privilege. Coming from states dominated by Southern Badtist's and similar ilk, those honorable members of the Upper Chamber must be at least superficially discrete.
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 17 2022 21:26 utc | 78
karloff1 @15
"Socialism with Russian Characteristics"
I like that. Too many of us are tethered by political concepts from the 1930s.
Socialism can be anything its people want it to be.
I see the Russia/China vision of a community of nations engaged in peaceful trade, mutual development, mutual respect and prosperity as a form of socialism.
Posted by: Steve from Oz | Oct 17 2022 21:31 utc | 79
Xi is calling for action to be taken by China first to set an example for the RoW to follow
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 17 2022 17:30 utc | 15
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Im curious what people think about various alternative case scenarios if we assume a future multi polar baseline.
Let's take scorpion for example. What happens to migration from Mexico if the US can no longer maintain the welfare state? Or for that matter, continue to provide a positive economic draw?
Do mexicans return home? Do Americans become refugees as they flee collapse? Does mx become a new financial point of foreign investment if perceived to play a key strategic role?
What if China, India and/or Russia reach a mutual security agreement with mx? The US has had the southwest for 180 years. What if mexico now (re)asserts sovereignty?
These types of dynamics will be in play in every sector around the globe. The changing of dynastic empires is perhaps the greatest of events in political history.
Do people here continue to read/write, or is it time to get busy and actually participate?
Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 17 2022 21:35 utc | 80
The Leviathan Super Cycle Ends; Western Leaders Pretend They Didn’t Notice
Alastair Crooke writes:
The Ukraine war ‘bubble’ is deflating as the U.S. and Europe reach the bottom of the arms ‘inventory barrel’.Historic shifts in world politics happen very slowly. That was not the case however, when the U.S. first stepped onto the world stage. It happened quite suddenly in 1898 – with the invasion of Cuba: Old Europe watched with palpable anxiety …The Manchester Guardian, at the time, reported that nearly every American had come to embrace this new expansionist zeitgeist. The few critics were “simply laughed at for their pains”. The Frankfurter Zeitung warned against “the disastrous consequences of their exuberance” but realized that Americans would not listen.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 21:40 utc | 81
Steve from Oz #79
"I see the Russia/China vision of a community of nations engaged in peaceful trade, mutual development, mutual respect and prosperity as a form of socialism."
Something like socialism, freed from dogma, measured by outcomes as you express above.
Sounds good. Just own or regulate the banks imo.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 21:43 utc | 82
Zelensky and the mysterious ghost brigades
🇺🇦⚡️A rally in Lvov, where relatives demand that Zelensky's gang find the "missing" from the 24th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
I won't tell you a big secret if I say that most of the people they are trying to find are already dead for a long time. Zelensky has been hiding the huge losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the population, relatives are not informed about this.
https://t.me/loordofwar/53820
Truth be told, the whole war has been based on humongous lies. Sooner or later Zelensky and all the Ukrainian elites profiting from this deal of "mansions/goodies/gold/diamonds/you-name-it-for-bodies/fodder, will simply vanish. And the plug will get pulled, as the thing outlived its usefulness. The western MSM will flip the subject as fast as flipping a light switch and no one will even remember Ukraine after the 2 week mandatory attention span passed.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 21:44 utc | 83
The Russians throw Exxon out of the Sakhalin-1 oil and gas venture, some compensation for the theft of their foreign exchange reserves.
China to stop reselling LNG to Europe
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/China-To-Stop-Reselling-LNG-To-Europe.html
US Freeport LNG facility not coming back online until at least November, with no increase in LNG facilities in the US until at least 2024.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Gas-Prices/Experts-US-LNG-Growth-Could-Slow-Next-Year.html
France trying to go from 30GW nuclear to 50GW nuclear back online. by early next year
Russia moving to Turkey as European Gas Hub, good for South East Europe, very bad for Germany
So, US getting thrown out of the Russian oil and gas industry and things looking bad short and long term with respect to LNG and piped-NG for Northern Europe. Europe is ending itself through its self-enforced diet of no Russian gas and Russia is moving into the "FU" mode with respect to Europe. The US is not in a position to help, and looks like Chinese LNG demand still increasing so no room for extra to Europe. China signed those long-term contracts that the Europeans refused to.
The successful defeat of Ukraine by Russia will be big geopolitically, but the self-destruction of Europe will be much bigger. We can already see Turkey move toward Russia, and moves in the Balkans (the NATO/EU nutters being defeated in Bulgaria, mass protests in Moldova etc.). This decade will be the turning point where the Rest at last overwhelms the West, with Europe's suicide being the biggest factor.
@Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 21:44 utc | 83
Truth be told, the whole war has been based on humongous lies. Sooner or later Zelensky and all the Ukrainian elites profiting from this deal of "mansions/goodies/gold/diamonds/you-name-it-for-bodies/fodder, will simply vanish. And the plug will get pulled, as the thing outlived its usefulness. The western MSM will flip the subject as fast as flipping a light switch and no one will even remember Ukraine after the 2 week mandatory attention span passed.
Then wall-to-wall Taiwan, and "dictator" Xi, and more Xinjiang bullshit, the Dems and Republicans all agree on that.
Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 17 2022 21:35 utc | 80
Let's take scorpion for example. What happens to migration from Mexico if the US can no longer maintain the welfare state? Or for that matter, continue to provide a positive economic draw?
I am thinking that most migration now is through Mexico, not really from there. Central Americans, Venezuelans, and even Indians and Ukrainians.
Mexico itself is not really that bad off that they need to export large numbers of refugees. Seems that most of the new border crossers are the truly desparate. Reverse migration might become a larger trend if things continue spiraling downward in the states.
Posted by: Chris | Oct 17 2022 21:50 utc | 86
I fear a "multipolar" world is not possible when any one empire:
- Researches and develops bioweapons, weapons that may in the future target specific ethnicities or genes (perhaps genes that control independent thinking)
- In its drive to dominate the others, shows complete disregard for morality and law.
Posted by: dfg | Oct 17 2022 21:51 utc | 87
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 17 2022 21:06 utc | 73
"rather it hinges upon the chasm between the majority of degreed individuals, who for economic and social reasons, desperately cling to their cognitive dissonance comfort zone; as against those who still possess something of that independent yet cooperative spirit which signaled life in an earlier America."
Whilst I am not going to knock university, My Dad sorted out a brief apprenticeship first for me, when I was 15, learning everything I needed to know about plumbing, being a spark (electrician) and earning some money, so I could buy some petrol, to put in my older brother's motorbike - who said to me - you can have it, if you can find all the bits and put it back together.
I learnt more in 6 weeks, than I did in college and univeristy, which I only did for a year, cos I wanted a proper education, being paid to learn computer skills, starting at the bottom. On my third interview attempt, I had worked out how to do the intelligence test, and the interview test.
My Mum said, you look fine
Go for it.
I was 19, and they gave me the job, and after 3 months, dumped me in the deep end.
I was now working in Bracknell, on full expenses and posh hotels.
And Learning with the likes of Conway Berners Lee - Tim's Dad.
And I can still fix pipes and electrics
These are the core skills needed now
My son can do it too, but most kids don't have a clue.
They are glued to their mobile phones, and have little more skills than to wipe their own bottoms.
When the shit hits the fan as it probably will, they won't have a clue how to survive.
Sad but True *Can you arseholes stop drowning shit on my computer. I saw Metllica in London, before you were born" - me
Metallica: Sad But True (Official Music Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o
Tony
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Oct 17 2022 21:52 utc | 88
>> What happens to migration from Mexico
>> if the US can no longer maintain the welfare state?
/If/ the same USA can no longer maintain its /warfare/ state, then cessation of USA destabilization activity in the Global South will reduce emigration from the Global South.
Posted by: dfg | Oct 17 2022 21:55 utc | 89
https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-new-york-times-friendly-nazis-80-years/282241/
The New York Times has been friendly to Nazis for 80 years.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 17 2022 21:56 utc | 90
The equation is being changed because Xi read some history, 60 year-old history and merely altered the verbiage:
Karl its surprising to see you claim Xi stole JFK's speech after "reading some history"
I don't know what's more silly: thinking millionaire JFK understood socialism or gave a toss, or that Xi had previously not read US "history"
Posted by: K | Oct 17 2022 22:08 utc | 91
The Saudi's seem pretty pissed at the collective swamp in Washington.
"Saudi Prince Saud al-Shaalan, close relative of MBS, said this following Democrats’ criticism of their oil price hike: “Anybody that challenges the existence of this country and this kingdom, all of us we are projects of jihad and martyrdom.”"
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1581675411406458881
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 17 2022 22:15 utc | 92
Elon Musk just retweeted the Sacks article with the comment “exceptionally well said”.
I wonder if he reads this blog?
Anyway regarding “wokeness” - this is bourgeois liberalism in crisis and morphing into a sort of techno fascism.
Of course it is more innovative and ruthless than the reactionaries;
Both are an expression of the accelerating social contradictions under capitalism and the strategy debate of the imperial center.
Posted by: Moaobserver | Oct 17 2022 22:15 utc | 93
That Newsweek article was going fine right up to the obligatory reference to Putin's "unhinged speech".
Do they have to write such stuff to get published? It's like ten years ago when any reference to Asssad even in an article cautioning against regime change in Syria had to compulsorily call him a butcher massacring his own people.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Oct 17 2022 22:16 utc | 94
Let us take the situation calmly and evaluate, without emotion, this human conflict. Ha, ha. ha.
Humans, as social beings, compete, cooperate and parasitize, all at the same time. Although, since time immemorial, there have been individual and collective agents that have encouraged cooperation, the line of least resistance is "all for me and mine". Human gregariousness is sophisticated animal survival.
Humans have always been at each other's throats over territory and females. Having land to inhabit and populate it is the basic principle of survival of a community of homo sapiens. Children are the continuity of the species (the blood), but the transcendental link is the language and culture of the community.
It's amazing, but between that amount of 7 billions of humans, only around 20% of men and women, are awares that they are bastards: the tabu around this, someday will explode.
The different wills to exist of the nation-states collide dramatically against the will of the performative center, when the main cognitive domains are mental and vital-physical. Both are translated in war.
But, war is the conflict that psychoid archetypes maintain when energy shifts base: humans transit from emotion to mind. From the mind to the existential (and some consider spiritual) cause:
The human is XX or XY, biologically: born male or female.
Humans live in society: their identity is complex and is not reduced to the self-perception of their body. Humans are biological entities that are free to imagine and act as they wish. But, if you are XX, you are not XY. Yes, you can modify your external sexual attributes by hormones (pharmachological, i.e. with money).
I don't care who you fuck and who you want, but leave the kids alone.
Don't condition them when they are not even adults. We have gone from the American repression of legitimate homosexual practice in "my house" to the repression of male and female expression outside.
So, all the thing is like the humans would be apes: conflict about the borders and the existence of the land we need to live an reproduce...
False.
Humans have an animal component, we are gregariouss. But We are, too, individual, that is, spiritual. All the purpouse or intent to not recognize our spiritual nature is the feed of those who do not want us, the human being:
We, humans, are free.
No doubt about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77P00hJsfa8
&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRxofEmo3HA
The spirit of the sapiens
Posted by: Peio | Oct 17 2022 22:19 utc | 95
Sack's article was OK until the end, where he labels Putin's speech as an "unhinged "War against the West" speech." OK, maybe he didn't really listen to the speech or didn't read the transcription. Or maybe he's just another idiot liberal who is as stupid as the neocons he's writing about.
Posted by: GioCon | Oct 17 2022 22:32 utc | 96
Peio | Oct 17 2022 22:19 utc | 95
This is nothing more than reactionary myth. The reality is in Peter Kropotkin's Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution.
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 17 2022 22:36 utc | 97
Seneschal 14
1982 was 40 years ago and 4 years after Iranian Revolution made oil unaffordable. Schmidt had a brilliant Foreign Minister, France had a cunning President, UK had a steely PM
Europe is run by juniors today. Scholz is personally corrupt and n of low intelligence as is his regime. Economics is barely comprehended. Schmidt was world class and if you had met him you would know
This is a decaying Civilisation at the end euthanised by energy shortage
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Oct 17 2022 22:41 utc | 98
uncle tungsten @ 82
Thanks for your response.
"Just own or regulate the banks..."
Indeed. I think we can assume that in the Russia/China vision the adverse tendencies of capitalism will be tethered, not extinguished. They must be tethered for the intended mutualism to flourish.
Posted by: Steve from Oz | Oct 17 2022 22:42 utc | 99
I do not feel like I'm better than you..., but you think that you are better than me? Of course you do.
If you wouldnt do that, you wouldnt exists as a human.
Meanwhile the humans do not confess to theirselves their wrongdoing, there's nothing to do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg5c9XpXc4A
Posted by: Peio | Oct 17 2022 22:43 utc | 100
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The second link is missing the "h" at the beginning.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/10/17/on-ukraine-the-us-is-on-the-hook-to-find-a-way-out/
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