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October 16, 2022

The MoA Week In Review - (Not Ukraine) OT 2022-175

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:

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Other issues:

China:

Germany - China:

> [Economy Minister] Habeck promised to continue the dialogue with the business community and another meeting has been arranged for the first quarter next year, the two people said. "He has a steep learning curve, he is very open," one of them said. "The problem is that he is starting right at the bottom." <

Haiti:

Aaron Maté @aaronjmate - 0:24 UTC · Oct 16, 2022
Haiti is the first free country in this hemisphere, borne out of a slave revolt. For two centuries, it's been rewarded for that contribution to humankind with pillage, coups, destabilization, and military occupation from France, US, and their Western junior partners.
Miami Herald @MiamiHerald - Oct 15
Exclusive: U.S. will support sending ‘multinational rapid action force’ to Haiti
“Western” hostility to Haiti’s legacy of liberation is so entrenched that a French ambassador admitted that it factored in their 2004 coup of President Aristide, who dared to ask France to pay reparations for looting Haiti as the “price” of its freedom in 1804:
Keane Bhatt @KeaneBhatt -  May 21
A major revelation buried deep within this excellent historical overview: France’s then-ambassador admits on the record that the U.S. and France orchestrated a coup against Haiti’s elected president in 2004
The Root of Haiti’s Misery: Reparations to Enslavers

Prosecution Futures:

Use as open (NOT Ukraine) thread ...

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[Economy Minister] Habeck promised to continue the dialogue with the business community and another meeting has been arranged for the first quarter next year, the two people said. "He has a steep learning curve, he is very open," one of them said. "The problem is that he is starting right at the bottom."

Of course, as soon as Habeck finally reaches a basic understanding of the situation and thus become unfit to misgovern Germany, the “democratic process” will replace him with a fresh ignoramus. Ah, the wonders of “democracy”!… Meanwhile, the competent “autocrats” will continue to carefully monitor and analyze the needs and wishes of their people, adjusting policies as necessary to fulfil them.

Posted by: S | Oct 16 2022 12:21 utc | 1

Biden's China semiconductor gambit seems particularly tone-deaf.

It is lose-lose for US tech as they forfeit both their manufacturing base and biggest market.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 16 2022 12:33 utc | 2

The Semicon blockade is a big deal with many huge ramifications including increased likelihood of Taiwan troubles. Collapse continues, whether by accident or design...

Thxs for those articles..

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 16 2022 13:34 utc | 3

Re: Peter Lee's article on the Semicon ban

Generally good - but Peter Lee is confused on DRAM. DRAM is used for cell phones, but DRAM is a distant second fiddle to flash memory.

For example: iPhones have from 1GB to 6GB DRAM, but iPhones have been starting at 64GB flash memory and go up to 1 terabyte (1024GB) these days. Or in other words - 10x to 170x more flash memory than DRAM.

Nor is it clear that DRAM is itself more of a "constricting" factor than flash memory. Flash memory was developed by Toshiba. The flash memory market is entirely dominated between Japanese and Korean companies.

DRAM is more important for PCs/laptops/cloud computing - but the dominant players are again in Asia - Korea, not Taiwan.

If anything, the semiconductor ban is really about doing to Korea, what the energy ban is doing to Germany...

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 16 2022 13:45 utc | 4

Using "Made in Asia" chips can be maddeningly frustrating. For the high end Western products are still better. But for common, normal use, Chinese chips are as good as their Western counterpart. The price/quality balance is different, in favor of low price.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 16 2022 14:11 utc | 5

Black Agenda Report has a special Haiti edition this week.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/haiti-special-issue

Posted by: bevin | Oct 16 2022 14:17 utc | 6

There was a repost from Australian Lady (number 2) which i just read about ten minutes ago.
While i was composing a comment the post has disappeared.
The repost was praising the courage of folks who resisted the jab.
Has anyone else seen it or am i going mad?

Posted by: simon crow | Oct 16 2022 14:23 utc | 7

This just posted at Unz Newslinks - recommend verification:

Fauci and Wife(Ethics Head of NIAID) funding the GAIN OF FUNCTION RESEARCH On the OMICRON VARIANT!

Yes, Folks - apparently, some Boston-Harvard-BYU/Mormon CoVIDiots are trying to INCREASE Omicron's LETHALITY!

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/omicron-gain-of-function-research

Posted by: IronForge | Oct 16 2022 14:55 utc | 8

Has anyone else seen it or am i going mad?
Posted by: simon crow | Oct 16 2022 14:23 utc | 7

Not sure about a post disappearing but I think I got a link to the article here a day or two ago.
It's praise from French Gen. Blanchon.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 16 2022 15:13 utc | 9

British politics has not been this toxic since Domenic Cummings became Domenic Goings.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 16 2022 15:21 utc | 10

There were the faint sparklings of a religious riot beginning on the Ukraine thread so I've moved my commentary here.

For the Christians among us (I am a Buddhist) , please explain this nonsense:


Ezekiel 23:20
“There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.”

How can one take the Abrahamic religions seriously when ones comes across scripture like this?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2022 15:25 utc | 11

Tom Luongo on Tulsi Gabbard

Gabbard’s statement is a big deal given the timing, less than a month out from the mid-term elections.

I know a lot of people are really torn on Gabbard. She elicits from the “patriot or “MAGA” crowd the same kind of unthinking division that Donald Trump elicits from the world.

There are few nuanced takes on either of these people. This is because they represent threats to the people who are desperately trying to maintain control over the political and economic system. It doesn’t matter if they are competent or not.

Since that system is failing, rapidly, the socio-political immune system must be vaccinated against all foreign ideas.

So, the modus operandi is always the same. As they rise in popularity seed and amplify their faults to gaslight some would be supporters. In the case of Gabbard it was her invitation to the 2015 WEF Young Leaders conference and her positions on key domestic policy issues.

People don’t like Gabbard for these reasons. Some of them are valid criticisms. Her voting record is Progressive on domestic economic issues. But, like a lot of young people, they come in with certain ideas and they leave with others after peaking behind the curtain.

https://tomluongo.me/2022/10/11/whos-afraid-of-tulsi-gabbard-everyone/

Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 15:27 utc | 12

Kevin Pina made very good documentaries about the Haiti 2004 coup, namely Haiti The Untold Story, while he was still on the run from the MINUSTAH death squads, with the consequence that the victims' faces are not obscures, e.g. babies shot in the face, one man'a jaw destroyed as he crawls his last, then the camera pans away, and a few minutes later, the police have had opportunity to place a pistol on the body---Pina relied quite heavily on footage of Haitian journalists. Later, he released a second version (faces obscured), "Haiti we must kill the bandits".

The documentaries also show the arson and other terrorism (including the dumpster-burning of signed ballots of the fraudulent and unconstitutionally Canadian run 2006 election in Haiti---the constitution of Haiti requires the current president to call the new election, but Aristide had been kidnapped by US special forces terrorists, and was been held hostage in the then US puppet dictatorship of Central African Republic), but excluding the mass pedophilia of MINUSTAH. The pedophilia came in two forms, to wit, direct rape (also against adults) by UN/MINUSTAH "peacekeepers", and by known Haitian pedophiles of the then former (and disbanded on account of said pedophilia among other crimes) Haitian National Army, in their capacity as RCMP-trained Haitian National Police (five years before i.e. in 1999, the RCMP denied personnel from the same group entry to Canada on account of said and other crimes).

The propaganda motivation of the coup was based on a senatorial seat election that was unsuccessfully challenged in the Haitian courts iirc, but this was expanded to a false accusation of general fraud, then extended to the election of Aristide (the parliamentary, senatorial and presidential elections were simultaneous). In actual fact, no substantive evidence of fraud was found, but the subsequent Canadian-run, and since after stripper/rapper/pole dancer/international cocaine trader/Canadian puppet dictator Sweet Mickey (aka Michel Martelly) was installed, US-run unconstitutional elections have all been fraudulent. Sweet Mickey reinstated the pedo army.

The actual motivation of the coup was three-fold: France wasn't too pleased that Aristide demanded return of the slavery quit-rent (with interest) that Haiti had paid France from the 1820s to 1949 (9 million gold Francs, several billion US$). Paul Martin's one golfing buddy had lost a fair bit of profit at his t-shirt sweatshops in Haiti due to Aristide doubling the minimum wage. Bush was eyeing the oil field south of Cuba and Haiti.

During MINUSTAH, the pedo-peacekeepers militarily occupied Haiti's first medical school, thus preventing it from functioning.

Sweet Mickey wasn't the first international cocaine trader that Canada attempted to install in Haiti; Guy Philippe was first, and in Pina's first documentary on the 2004 coup and invasion, the documentary starts with him bloviating about Aristide. He is currently in a Florida gaol, appealing his own plea bargain conviction for cocaine trade.

During the previous coup against Aristide, the junta had a nominal gun importation ban against it, placed by the US, but as an oil publication noted, this ban wasn't enforced; it was enforced upon Aristide's first return (after the first US coup against him). This creates a situation where gangs often had (black market?) access to automatic firearms, while the police did not. Later the government would negotiate with gangs not to murder the police. Gangs that agreed were later labled as "Aristide supporters" (as if not gangs) by the business press, e.g. "The Economist".

During the early stages of the 2004 coup, Guy Philippe returned from his Mexico-based cocaine trade activities, to his former town of Gonaives (where he had been police chief until the mid-90s). At the time, a gang that had agreed not to murder police (the gang was called Cannibal Army), had suffered the murder of its chief by another gang that had agreed not to murder police. This was labled as "Aristide killing his own supporters" in the business press. In the resulting shoot-outs, many Cannibal Army members were killed; prime minister Yvon Neptune was held in prison on a genocide charge (sic; years later laughed out of court) for these gang shoot-out deaths (another MINUSTAH terrorist act: kidnapping and holding hostage Yvon Neptune in "prison"). One of the first acts of the 2004 coup was Guy Philippe taking over leadership of the Cannibal Army, renaming it several times, ultimately settling on "The National Revolutionary Front for the Liberation of Haiti."

The Cannibal Army then started having shoot-outs with the (more weakly armed) police. However, after a while, the police began to win. At that point the Canadian, US, and French special forces terrorists invaded Haiti, and Aristide was kidnapped at gun point.

The junta administration was centered largely around Haiti's (Lebanese Marionite extraction) super-thuggish business elite. As an example, one of these oligarchs had manufactured and sold a "cough syrup," made in part from ethalene glycol (engine anti-freeze). Most of the children who used the cough syrup died as a result. To avoid paying the survivors, he hired assassins to kill the survivors.

At one point during the early years of the (de facto ongoing) junta, while MINUSTAH was still ongoing, one of the Haitian Army pedos that was inducted into the police, beheaded three other police. This was the subject of a great campaign of MINUSTAH propaganda: "Chimeres [alleged youth wing of Aristide's Famni Lavalas political party, notion dreamed up by Marionite business elite], and Al Qaeda in Haiti [as constituted by Haiti's Arab minority, i.e. said Maronites---technically Arabised Syriac Christians in communion with the Holy Roman See, but resent being called Arab---the RCMP spokesman repeated this cocaine-addled psychobabble with a straight face, as seen in Pina's second documentary, and as partially repeated by then Canadian ambassador to Haiti Claude Boucher in the Canadian parliament on 9 November 2004, when he confessed to working with international cocaine trader Guy Philippe] are carrying out Operation Baghdad."

This propaganda was so embarrassing that to my recollection it currently exists only in the archives of Singapore's Strait Times.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Oct 16 2022 15:29 utc | 13

MINUSTAH made such a mess of Haiti, that they felt a need to pass the buck (compare Kagame relabling the skulls of Hutus murdered---and decapitated, with bodies sent floating down rivers---by bashing in with hoes, as baTúutsi victims; see Ruzibiza and In Praise of Blood by Judy Rever), and for that, they ironically needed clear evidence of the damage that they had done, thus the 2006 census in Haiti, labled "the first census in 24 years," to imply that Aristide let problems fester. The previous census was in

Res ipsa loquitur.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Oct 16 2022 15:31 utc | 14

Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 16 2022 15:13 utc | 9

Yes!
Thank you so much.

Posted by: simon crow | Oct 16 2022 15:32 utc | 15

The previous census was in 2003. Res ipsa loquitur.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Oct 16 2022 15:33 utc | 16

Interesting radio interview with William Engdahl.

https://21stcenturywire.com/2022/09/15/interview-f-william-engdahl-on-eu-economic-meltdown-and-risks-of-global-calamity/

Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 15:37 utc | 17

@simon crow | Oct 16 2022 14:23 utc | 7

I saw it, you are not mad. Someone else is.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 16 2022 15:41 utc | 18

MINUSTAH made such a mess of Haiti, that they felt a need to pass the buck (compare Kagame relabling the skulls of Hutus murdered---and decapitated, with bodies sent floating down rivers---by bashing in with hoes, as baTúutsi victims; see Ruzibiza and In Praise of Blood by Judy Rever), and for that, they ironically needed clear evidence of the damage that they had done, thus the 2006 census in Haiti, labled "the first census in 24 years," to imply that Aristide let problems fester. The previous census was in 2003. Thus in MINUSTAH/UN arithmetic, 2006 minus 2003 equals 24.

The 2003 census in Haiti showed 60 percent primary school attendance. The 2006 census showed 39 percent primary school attendance.

Res ipsa loquitur.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Oct 16 2022 15:43 utc | 19

@simon crow | Oct 16 2022 14:23 utc | 7

I saw it too.

Posted by: john | Oct 16 2022 15:45 utc | 20

Even pediwikia has an article covering the MINUSTAH pedo pimps.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Oct 16 2022 16:05 utc | 21

Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 16 2022 15:13 utc | 9 et al.

I noted here that the statement was probably not by General Blanchon.

Posted by: David Levin | Oct 16 2022 16:27 utc | 22

Here is an interesting passage from the article;

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Tabun was the first deadly nerve gas known. It was discovered in January 1936 by the German researcher Gerhard Schrader.

The nerve gas Tabun was made on an industrial scale by Germany during World War II, based on a process developed by Gerhard Schrader. In a large production facility at Dyhernfurth an der Oder, at least 12,000 metric tons of this agent were manufactured between 1942 and 1945.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabun_(nerve_agent)

The figure of > 12,000 metric tons of Tabun nerve gas comes from the quantity contained in the 500,000 artillery shells, and 100,000 bombs, filled with Tabun, found at the end of the war. None of this nerve gas was used. Apparently, Hitler was a nice guy.

Posted by: whereisit | Oct 16 2022 16:48 utc | 23

great stuff b... thank you...

those aaron mate quotes on haiti are something else.. thanks... that kid is bang on... his father gabor must be proud..

love this headline from wapo - " With U.S. nudges, Google and others aim to help Iranian protesters" yeah, like google is such a great friend - NOT... down with google... its like another word for the great satan, lol..

wonder how long before china and russia start using that label for the usa too - the great satan? its a good one.. okay - off to read - How Britain's Pension Scheme Hedge Became A Trillion Pound Gamble now... cheers

Posted by: james | Oct 16 2022 17:13 utc | 24

A study, published in The Lancet, showed a part of the MINUSTAH and MINUSTAH-enabled criminality. Death threats were made against one of the authors, by personnel from OXFAM-GB (including a mailed dead rat), and one of these personnel publicly referred to the study saying, "I smell a rat." Under US pressure, the article was withdrawn from The Lancet, although it was later reinstated. The OXFAM-GB personnel later showed up at OXFAM-Quebec.

MINUSTAH had a primary de facto mission of murdering Famni Lavalas activists. Much of the violence in Kevin Pina's documentaries is these murders.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Oct 16 2022 17:20 utc | 25

that article - How Britain's Pension Scheme Hedge Became A Trillion Pound Gamble now. - is fascinating..

essentially derivatives are used to offset risk... but it appears that the derivatives themselves are now the risk... people try to come up with ingenuous ideas to get rid of risk, only to find that they can't get rid of it! it is like asking big pharma for a pill to get rid of anxiety or something... no sooner do you get the pill and then you realize that, after a while ) it doesn't work... this is where i think we are with the banking system in the world today.. all these banker types think they are so smart, when in fact they have created a huge monster that is in the process of coming undone... reminds me of a great guess who song - undun

Posted by: james | Oct 16 2022 17:23 utc | 26

Thanks for the inclusion of Haiti in the world pantheon, b. Back when Democracy Now had not become enslaved by the ptb (powers that be in the US) Amy Goodman did full coverage of Aristide's ouster - I wonder if it is in the archives still. As I remember she even accompanied him on his flight to Europe, and her coverage then of Haiti's history is well worth revisiting, if that is possible.

It might be said that Haiti then and now was Ukraine in miniature as the US intended and would like the latter to become. The US had its chance to create a good example of its 'benevolence' in Haiti back in the day; it has tragically failed to do so. It would be wonderful if now it could redress that situation and leave Ukraine's rebirth to Russia. The watchword is 'freedom'.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 16 2022 17:42 utc | 27

Posted by: David Levin | Oct 16 2022 16:27 utc | 22

You guys are good. Thanks. David.

Posted by: simon crow | Oct 16 2022 17:55 utc | 28

One thing that stands out to me in our current political and economic situation is how the West is acting in a suicidal fashion in its never ending quest for global supremacy.

Fact 1: As pointed out by the book review of Andrei Martyanov, both Russia and China produce more STEM graduates than the United States.

Fact 2: Another issue that behooves all of us is that in the history of the human race, cheap energy has always been the substitute for cheap labor, which civilization has utilized for its survival. This cheap energy historically has always come at an environmental cost.

While the Andrei Martyanov book review in American Affairs Journal claims that green energy is the wrong path to take, the reality of a climate catastrophe is barreling down upon the human race. Massive starvation of various populations around the planet are occurring and will only accelerate.

Also, our oceans are dying, due to overheating and over acidification, as evidenced by the Snow Crab collapse, and other events. This will not stop until carbon pollution is stopped, and actually reversed. This will, with current technology, take several thousand years of continuous carbon sequestration.

Continuation of carbon pollution is suicidal, but the costs of rare earth solutions may be excessive by themselves in the short term.

The other possible magic solution ,that has always been held out in optimism, has been nuclear fusion. While progress has been excruciatingly slow in this area, some recent progress has been made using artificial intelligence to predict energy pulses within containment vessels. In the long term this may be our only hope for the continuation of the human species.

Given this situation, the short term consequences of a chip embargo to “Our Enemies” may be the action that will slow fusion research which would be suicidal to us all. In order to possibly achieve a fusion solution we will need an “all hands on deck” of all nuclear physicists on the planet in the short term. This is NOT the time for national parochialism.

Humanity depends upon it.

Posted by: Michael.j | Oct 16 2022 17:55 utc | 29

“ The European Union prosecutor’s office has launched an investigation into the bloc’s procurement of billions of Covid-19 vaccine doses, amid allegations of corruption and secret backroom dealings from several members of parliament.”

The Pfizer hearings at the EU parliament last Monday is the gift that keeps on giving.

https://twitter.com/CristianTerhes/status/1580943461347655680

btw what is happening with comments critical of the covid vaccines?

They seem to disappear “at the speed of Science”

Posted by: DG | Oct 16 2022 17:58 utc | 30

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2022 15:25 utc | 11

You can commonly hear Christians spouting out things like “god will not put anything on us that we cannot handle”. But when things are put on Christians and they aren’t able to handle it – if they die – then it was “their time to go, god was calling them home”. If they are not healed, then “it is not god’s will for them to be healed”. If they forsake their beliefs, then “Satan is deceiving them and getting the best of them”. What happen to “god would not put anything on us that we could not bare”? Copouts and evasions a flurry – another staple of religion.

Also the 'character' Jesus Christ is an amalgamation of many more ancient prophets/saviors.

The Buddha characters have the following in common with the Christ figure:
• Buddha was born of the virgin Maya, who was considered the "Queen of Heaven."
• He was of royal descent.
• He crushed a serpent's head.
• Sakyamuni Buddha had 12 disciples.
• He performed miracles and wonders, healed the sick, fed 500 men from a "small basket of cakes," and walked on water.
• He abolished idolatry, was a "sower of the word," and preached "the establishment of a kingdom of righteousness."
• He taught chastity, temperance, tolerance, compassion, love, and the equality of all.
• He was transfigured on a mount.
• Sakya Buddha was crucified in a sin-atonement, suffered for three days in hell, and was resurrected.
• He ascended to Nirvana or "heaven."
• Buddha was considered the "Good Shepherd", the "Carpenter", the "Infinite and Everlasting."
• He was called the "Savior of the World" and the "Light of the World."


Horus of Egypt

The stories of Jesus and Horus are very similar, with Horus even contributing the name of Jesus Christ. Horus and his Father, Osiris, are frequently interchangeable in the mythos ("I and my Father are one"). The legends of Horus go back thousands of years, and he shares the following in common with Jesus:

• Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger, with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.
• He was a child teacher in the Temple and was baptized when he was 30 years old.
• Horus was also baptized by "Anup the Baptizer," who becomes "John the Baptist."
• He had 12 disciples.
• He performed miracles and raised one man, El-Azar-us, from the dead.
• He walked on water.
• Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
• He was crucified, buried in a tomb and resurrected.
• He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light, the Messiah, God's Anointed Son, the Son of Man, the Good Shepherd, the Lamb of God, the Word" etc.
• He was "the Fisher," and was associated with the Lamb, Lion and Fish ("Ichthys").
• Horus's personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father."
• Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One," long before the Christians duplicated the story.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 18:19 utc | 31

Michael.j @29: "The other possible magic solution ,that has always been held out in optimism, has been nuclear fusion."

I hate to ruin people's fantasies, but fusion power will always only be niche and just for the rich. Sure, fusion will work, but it will almost always be insanely expensive.

I say "almost always" because there exists a fusion power source for humanity that is already doing an exceptionally good job. We just have to do a better job of extracting power from it.

Of course I am talking about our friendly neighborhood star, the Sun. It works great and will continue doing so for billions of years. We just have to get better at harnessing its awesome power, and that means orbital power satellites.

"OMG! That's too expensive!"

You say that after proposing fusion power plants as some sort of solution. Are you daft?

The key here is marginal cost per additional power unit. Every single fusion power plant humanity ever makes will always be insanely expensive. They will make breeder reactors look cheap in comparison. On the other hand, after the infrastructure for construction of solar power satellites has been built out (lunar mines and silica/alumina processing plants, orbital work shack, cis-lunar transport systems and so on), marginal unit prices for them will become dirt cheap.

That infrastructure might not seem so fanciful when you consider that Elon Musk is targeting launch costs for his "Starship" spacecraft of around $2 million per launch. Musk might not get costs down that low, but he will get them in the ballpark. When the Chinese get around to building their reusable super-heavy lifter it probably will hit Musk's cost targets, at which point tossing some heavy teleoperated mining and refining equipment up to the Moon becomes ridiculously easy.

Atomic power is not humanity's future. It will always be expensive and niche. For the majority of humanity and for ongoing economic growth, cheap orbital solar power is where it is at.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 16 2022 18:31 utc | 32

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2022 15:25 utc | 11

If you are, as you state, a Buddhist, Arch, you will recognize allegory when you see it, even if you have ignored the verses at the beginning of the chapter that tell you the 'two sisters' are Jerusalem and Samaria. Strong stuff and not to my taste either, as much in the Old Testament is not. But oh boy, most of it really hits home for me, so you hold fast to the good and what you don't understand, what even can offend you, let go.

Take this saying of the Prophet Isaiah, one that I have been studying just now:

Behold, I have graven thee
upon the palms of my hands (Isaiah 49:16)

The prophet is also berating Jerusalem here, but speaking for the Lord, he insists that his concern for the city is not a light one. Do we suppose, then that this is to be taken literally? Of course not!

It is my understanding that equally strong is much in the Buddhist scripture from earlier times, particularly as the rhetoric seeks to apply prophetic truths in ways that are understood by the people at large when it was written, in terms they would react to.

For Christians, the Old Testament doesn't stand alone as Scripture with a capital "S". It is always viewed in light of the New Testament, being at times a prophetic foretaste of that message much as all other spiritual writings can be as well. Saint Paul would have an answer for you, having been himself raised immersed in OT literature. And he persecuted Christians on the basis of his studies, had to fall off his horse and be blinded before he saw the light. Sometimes that's what it takes.

Hope that helps.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 16 2022 18:52 utc | 33

MINUSTAH's greatest success was turning Haiti into a narcostate. NBC had falsely accused Haiti of being a narcostate (likely Guy Philippe and his cronies that were involved in the captured shipment).

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Oct 16 2022 18:53 utc | 34

Ukes, spooks and kooks. Since we're talking NATO related stupidity may as well add Nukes.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 18:53 utc | 35

At present, the message that resonates with me is that the Democratic Party has failed to convince one of its own on its ability to govern. For those who have wished it would be able to do so, that's an important message. As to her other credentials, plenty of time to sort those out - I remember she had a good take on the Syria situation back in the day, and being from Hawaii I would hope she also has healthy environmental concerns. But for now that was an important message to deliver.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 16 2022 19:12 utc | 36

Sorry, my #36 was to Posted by: Down South | Oct 16 2022 15:27 utc | 12 concerning Tulsi Gabbard.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 16 2022 19:16 utc | 37

China's Global Times reports:

Orders for LNG ships surge as demand rise from energy-starved Europe

China's shipbuilders, accounting for about a 50-percent global market share, are working around the clock to provide much-needed liquefied natural gas (LNG) carriers, driven by booming demand from Europe as it scrambles to increase natural gas storage.

Because of the damaged Nord Stream pipeline and the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict, gas supplies in Europe are tight. In response, orders for LNG vessels saw double-digit growth lately, with some major Chinese shipbuilders reporting order backlogs that stretch through 2026, the Global Times learned.

A Shanghai-located shipyard is using 100 percent of its dock capacity and has orders on hand until 2026, even though it's working on 18 large ships around the clock now, according to media reports.

continues ==> https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202210/1277246.shtml

So, when do the sanctions on China's shipbuillders start?

Posted by: too scents | Oct 16 2022 19:19 utc | 38

@ Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 16 2022 18:31 utc | 32

While I am a strong advocate of green energy, the current projected environmental costs for obtaining sufficient rare are also “astronomical”. The destruction to people’s lives in the Global South for current techniques in rare earth mining are extremely high.

While costs of current fission energy incredible, given this is entirely experimental, projecting production costs at this point in time is impossible. To say that it will cost too much when on does not even have a working prototype is in IMHO premature. One can never project a costs until one has finished experimentation and submitted relevant data to the engineers.

Dismissing an unknown technology is very short sighted. We also must sequester billions of tons of carbon, but those current costs are also prohibitive. Does that mean we should not pursue a technology to do so?

Additionally, to confuse fusion to current fission production is disingenuous, as they are entirely different technologies.

Posted by: Michael.j | Oct 16 2022 19:30 utc | 39

Vanessa Beeley interviews an interesting subject (time- 59:27)

Conversation with Alex Krainer - the Grand Deception and the US/UK allied war against Germany

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fuoftXMOlZ8

Posted by: Browser | Oct 16 2022 19:49 utc | 40

@Michael.j | Oct 16 2022 19:30 utc | 39

Dismissing an unknown technology is very short sighted.
Dismissing a known technology is far worse, in fact criminal.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 16 2022 19:49 utc | 41

Interesting.

Apart from a few small very expensive mil-spec production facilities! All production facilities are in China.

99.9985% of all USSA consumer electronic toys! Come from China. This includes all NSA spying on my Android/Apple OS smartphones.

This was part of the USSAs Republican Party's ongoing master plan. A conspiracy instigated by the Reagan/Bush team to destroy the country from within.

In the end, even the Democrat party jumped on the same bandwagon too!

Posted by: bad Deal Motors On | Oct 16 2022 19:52 utc | 42

simon crow | Oct 16 2022 14:23 utc | 7
I saw it. I replied to it.
The timestamp was:
>>Australian lady | Oct 15 2022 1:55 utc | 126
By rights it should be in one of the “not Ukraine threads”… but there’s
“topic” and “off topic” and Tony Opec standards/ categories these days.

Ahh. It was this Ukraine thread:
>Ukraine Open Thread 2022-173
And thus “off topic”.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 16 2022 20:23 utc | 43

How can one take the Abrahamic religions seriously when ones comes across scripture like this?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2022 15:25 utc | 11

I guess the same way people take "Richard Gere" western style Buddhists seriously when they have nothing in common with Tibetan monks.
You too can be a western consumer as long as you practice "mindfulness"

Did you know that one can pay to have western Buddhist monks or nuns teach you to become a mindfulness meditation teacher? Forget years of monastic practice this only takes one day a week for a few months. Whereupon you will be eligible for government subsidies for your new business (here in Australia)

Fuedal Tibetan Buddhism jumped ship and came to America where neoliberal capitalism felt just like home.

Posted by: K | Oct 16 2022 20:27 utc | 44

Seeing as the thread.
>has horrific accounts of Haiti and pedophilia
>Christian scripture.
Allow me to conjoin the two with
Tim Minchin
“Come Home Cardinal Pell”.
A song that literally…literally… [and I mean “literally”] overnight changed the “tone” of debate about institutional child sexual abuse within the Catholic Church.
A Royal Commission was seeking his return to Australia from his perch as No3 at the Vatican to answer some questions he’d rather not answer.
Minchin wrote his song. It was played at 6pm on a news| current affairs program The Project.
It was such an immediate shockwave, late night news-wrap programs all clambered for it, and Minchin was doing Australia-wide radio interviews all night and into breakfast … when breakfast TV picked it up.
And by commuter time and office arrival time, probably half Australia had heard the song.
Everyone was aware.. and angry.
Pell came home… and went to jail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtHOmforqxk

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 16 2022 20:43 utc | 45

@james #26
What the article talks about is the same underlying dynamic as the MBS bonds built out of NINJA loans, the South America sovereign loans in the 1980s, the implosion of LTCM, etc: vacuuming nickels in front of a steamroller.

And let's be clear: it isn't the banksters who are getting fooled.
It is their customers.
The banksters sell the lipsticked pigs to fools desperate for yield whether German provincial banks or British pension funds, collect their bonuses then scarper off leaving the customers literally holding the bag.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 16 2022 20:46 utc | 46

K | Oct 16 2022 20:27 utc | 44
“………Feudal Tibetan Buddhism jumped ship and came to America where neoliberal capitalism felt just like home.”
Given the Dalai Lama is a CIA “asset”, imma thinking the arrival and promotion of the “Richard Gere” buddhism is within psy-op territory. (Or pay-op) as autocorrect INSISTS…
….Another (early) hate-China narrative…… look at all these peaceful meditating mindful monks being murdered indiscriminately by soulless China….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 16 2022 20:54 utc | 47

@Michael.j #29
One of the primary reasons why nuclear fusion is always "10 years away", forever, is because of physics. In particular: the sun contains fusion reactions by gravity - but terrestrials power plants have to do it via other means, primarily magnetic fields.
And there are many problems with magnetic fields.

1) The magnets are subject to degradation from radiation and other non-blockable outputs from fusion. Yes, fusion doesn't produce long lived radioactive byproducts like fission but it absolutely does produce radioactive particles, radiation and gamma rays. It is just that these byproducts are short lived ones, but they would be continuously present in a working fusion reactor.

2) Magnetic fields are interactive. In particular, it is very possible to have localized fusion reactions that create particles that affect said fields - which in turn create eddies. The correct term for a magnetic eddy in a fusion reactor is: failure.

3) There is ongoing work trying to use other forces to contain the matter, but these still involve reduced energy gain and failure mechanisms.

As for your belief in climate armageddon: I am not one of those that agrees with this thesis in any way. In particular - while there is clear warming, there is nowhere remotely anything apocalyptic about the warming to date, the warming realistically or even somewhat exaggeratedly projected for the future, etc etc.

The most ridiculous warming scenarios involve more fossil fuels than exist on Earth, as defined by known reserves to date.

And then there are outright scams like ocean acidification. The ocean's pH level varies by literally 100x more than the supposed acidification. There are islands in the Pacific which have CO2 bubbling out - and corals right beside these CO2 vents. Utter bollocks.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 16 2022 20:57 utc | 48

@Michael.j #29

You said

While costs of current fission energy incredible, given this is entirely experimental, projecting production costs at this point in time is impossible.

The costs of current fission energy are incredible only in the West, due to continuous lawfare by anti-nuclear types plus NIMBYism.

China has openly announced plans to build 164 nuclear power plants by 2035 - and they're going to do it. Note this will increase the number of nuclear plants in the entire world by 1/3...

Much like garbage high speed rail in California vs. the literally 12000 miles of China high speed rail - the cost of the Chinese nuclear power plants is a small fraction compared to their Western counterparts.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 16 2022 21:02 utc | 49

Posted by: DG | Oct 16 2022 17:58 utc | 30
“………btw what is happening with comments critical of the covid vaccines?
They seem to disappear “at the speed of Science”

They always have.
We persist. The bar owner does resist. I think he doesn’t want to appear on a list. You get the gist.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 16 2022 21:04 utc | 50

Melaleuca | Oct 16 2022 20:43 utc | 45

"..has horrific accounts of Haiti and pedophilia...
“Come Home Cardinal Pell”.
A song that literally…literally… [and I mean “literally”] overnight changed the “tone” of debate about institutional child sexual abuse within the Catholic Church."

Speaking of pedos and pedo rings, it looks like the Perv-in-Chief, whatever the state of his mental collapse, still has his libido all fired up. He must miss the good ole days with Epstein.

https://alethonews.com/2022/10/15/biden-makes-creepy-comments-to-underage-girl/

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Oct 16 2022 21:10 utc | 51

Posted by: simon crow | Oct 16 2022 14:23 utc | 7

Has anyone else seen it or am i going mad?

No - you are not going mad.
Apparently some subjects are still verboten.

Posted by: ted001 | Oct 16 2022 21:14 utc | 52

Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 18:19 utc | 31
Decades ago lol acquired for $2 on a used book sale something about the 7 “jesus” figures before Jesus. Never finished reading it. But it was worth the $2.
I guess Jung would say the recurring narrative now ascribed to Jesus is an “archetype”.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 16 2022 21:14 utc | 53

Michael.j @39: "Dismissing an unknown technology is very short sighted."

I'll try to simplify things for you since economics might be an alien topic for you. You don't really need a degree in nuclear physics and another one on economics to wrap your head around a basic point, which is that complex machines with many parts require more labor to produce than simpler machines. More labor means more expensive. The tokamaks used to contain the plasma for nuclear fusion are literally the most complex machines ever built. While they may get optimized somewhat as the technology matures, they will still remain up there in complexity with the US Shuttles (retired because they were too complex to function reliably and economically) and nuclear aircraft carriers. Fusion reactors will thus always be up there price-wise with American supercarriers and 1970s space planes. There is just no way that fusion reactors can be optimized to where they are simpler machines than contemporary commercial fission reactors, much less simpler than basic slabs of doped silicon.

Now realize that for fusion reactors to make any significant contribution to humanity's energy needs, many hundreds, or even thousands of them of them will need to be built. The world doesn't have the human resources to build hundreds of American supercarriers, so where is the labor to build hundreds of machines even more complex going to come from?

We don't need to know the final details of the design of the eventual production model of a fusion power plant to know that it is going to be ludicrously complex and thus outrageously expensive.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 16 2022 21:20 utc | 54

I greatly doubt the Chinese Mainland will commence a very messy invasion of Taiwan. Instead they likely will air drop 10,000 special forces with missiles down upon the TSMC silicon chip fab plants. This would force the western powers to bomb the TSMC silicon chip plants themselves, thus cutting off their own source of silicon chips.

Posted by: blues | Oct 16 2022 21:53 utc | 55

I was struck by the difference in the metaphor of the garden between the EU and China.
According to the EU foreign policy chief Europe is a garden and the rest of the world is a jungle.
The Chinese, on the other hand, see - the garden of human civilisation.
"...Chinese modernization has broadened the horizon for the development of human society. China's continuous enrichment and development of new forms of human civilization has inspired more countries and nations to add their own colors to the garden of human civilization..."

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202210/1277276.shtml?id=11

Posted by: JB | Oct 16 2022 22:00 utc | 56

Melaleuca @ 53.

Indeed. I could go on with lists I've made detailing the other figures upon whose lives/legends the Christ archetype was based.

Mithra, Sun god of Persia

The story of Mithra precedes the Christian fable by at least 600 years. According to Wheless (from a book), the cult of Mithra was, shortly before the Christian era, "the most popular and widely spread 'Pagan' religion of the times." The Christian hierarchy is nearly identical to the Mithraic version it replaced. Virtually all of the elements of the Catholic ritual, from miter to wafer to water to altar to doxology, are directly taken from earlier pagan mystery religions. [13] Mithra has the following in common with the Christ character:

• Mithra was born on December 25th.
• He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
• He had 12 companions or disciples.
• He performed miracles.
• He was buried in a tomb.
• After three days he rose again.
• His resurrection was celebrated every year.
• Mithra was called "the Good Shepherd."
• He was considered "the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah."
• He was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.
• His sacred day was Sunday, "the Lord's Day”.
• Mithra had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter, at which time he was resurrected.
• His religion had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper."

Krishna of India

The similarities between the Christian character and the Indian messiah are many. Indeed, Massey finds over 100 similarities between the Hindu and Christian saviors, and Graves, who includes the various noncanonical gospels in his analysis, lists over 300 likenesses. It should be noted that a common earlier English spelling of Krishna was "Christna," which reveals its relation to '"Christ." It should also be noted that, like the Jewish godman, many people have believed in a historical, carnalized Krishna.

• Krishna was born of the Virgin Devaki ("Divine One")
• His father was a carpenter.
• His birth was attended by angels, wise men and shepherds, and he was presented with gold, frankincense and myrrh.
• He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants.
• He was of royal descent.
• He was baptized in the River Ganges.
• He worked miracles and wonders.
• He raised the dead and healed lepers, the deaf and the blind.
• Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love.
• "He lived poor and he loved the poor."
• He was transfigured in front of his disciples.
• In some traditions he died on a tree or was crucified between two thieves.
• He rose from the dead and ascended to heaven.
• Krishna is called the "Shepherd God" and "Lord of lords," and was considered "the Redeemer, Firstborn, Sin Bearer, Liberator, Universal Word."
• He is the second person of the Trinity, and proclaimed himself the "Resurrection" and the "way to the Father."
• He was considered the "Beginning, the Middle and the End," ("Alpha and Omega"), as well as being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
• His disciples bestowed upon him the title "Jezeus," meaning "pure essence."
• Krishna is to return to do battle with the "Prince of Evil," who will desolate the earth

Etc. And to the notion that (all) Christians view the Old Testament as parable or whatnot, that isn't true for all denominations. There are plenty of sects/denominations that interpret the OT literally.

There are also many believers in a religious cosmology such as that given in Genesis who do not claim that their beliefs are scientific. They do not believe that the Bible is to be taken as a science text. To them, the Bible contains teachings pertinent to their spiritual lives. It expresses spiritual ideas about the nature of God and the relationship of God to humans and the rest of the universe. Such people do not believe the Bible should be taken literally when the issue is a matter for scientific discovery. The Bible, they say, should be read for its spiritual messages, not it lessons in biology, physics or chemistry. This used to be the common view of religious scholars. Philosophical analyses of the absurdity of popular conceptions of the gods were made by philosophers such as Epicurus (342-270). Creation scientists have no taste for allegorical interpretations.

As mentioned I could go on. I was raised under one of the more fundamentalist/literalist denominations practiced in the United States. At a certain age I began to notice ridiculous incongruities in both the OT and NT as well as in the lack of solid historical evidence for Christ in a time when things were definitely documented. In case anyone doubts that I have done the research, here's an abbreviated list of my sources.

• Ancient History of the God Jesus by Edouard Dujardin
• Antiquities Unveiled by JM Roberts, Esq.
• Apollonius the Nazarene by Raymond Bernard, PhD
• A Short History of the Bible by Bronson C. Keeler
• Christianity Before Christ by John G. Jackson
• Christianity: The Last Great Creation of the Pagan World by Vernal Holley
• Deceptions and Myths of the Bible by Lloyd Graham
• Did Jesus Exist? by GA Wells
• Forgery in Christianity by Joseph Wheless, Esq.
• Gnostic and Historic Christianity by Gerald Massey
• Isis Unveiled by Helena Blavatsky
• Pagan and Christian Creeds by Edward Carpenter
• Pagan Christs by JM Roberts
• The Bible in India by Louis Jacolliot
• The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You to Read
• The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth by John Allegro
• The Diegesis by Rev. Robert Taylor
• The Egyptian Book of the Dead by Gerald Massey
• "The Great Myth of the Sun-Gods" by Alvin Boyd Kuhn, PhD
• The Gospels and the Gospel by G.R.S. Mead
• The Historical Jesus and the Mythical Christ by Gerald Massey
• The Historical Evidence for Jesus by GA Wells
• "The Naked Truth" video series
• The Origin and Evolution of Religion by Albert Churchward
• "The Truth about Jesus," lecture by M. Mangasarian
• The Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects by Barbara Walker
• The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets by Barbara Walker
• The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors by Kersey Graves

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 22:17 utc | 57

Regarding the [13] footnote in my text above, I was going to include but the comment was getting too long. This is from a theology research paper of which I am the original author; it was never available to the public and I have only shared it with some family members and former members of my congregation (with whom I have not practiced since 1993, and I renounced my Christian faith about a year before that)...

[13] Graves, p. 15. "'We cannot,' says the celebrated Orientalist, Sir William Jones, 'refuse to the Vedas the honor of an antiquity the most distant.'" (Jacolliot, The Bible in India) Indeed, certain scholars have opined that the Rig Veda contains mention of an astronomical configuration that could only have occurred 90,000 years ago; it true, this would attest that the Veda was recording the experience of someone far too advanced for that period, according to the standardized anthrolopogical perspective, not to mention that the Veda would represent the world's oldest "historical" recording, although the actual physically extant copies are, obviously, very recent. Ancient scribes India mostly used, as occurs in some places today, leaves to write on, and these were endlessly copied over the thousands of years. As everywhere, knowledge was also passed along orally. This subject opens up the debate as to whether ancient India or Egypt was the progenitor of Western and Middle Eastern culture. Both have claims to extreme antiquity. The question is who came first within the Mythos, Brahma-Krishna or Osiris-Horus? Based on linguistical evidence, many scholars have concluded it was India. However, the ancient Egyptian language is not fully known, nor has the extent of its influence been adequately examined. Walker hypothesizes that "Horus" was "Heruka" of India, indicating that the Horus myth succeeded and was built upon the Indian. The chronology of the Brahmins goes back millions of years, and there has been effort made by such Hare Krishna authors as Thompson and Cremo to push civilization, rather than man's apelike progenitors, back at least to that period. Obviously, such "Forbidden Archeology" is widely dismissed for seeming lack of solid evidence. What is known is that the Judeo-Christian bible can be found in earlier versions in both countries. Thus, it is the rehash of the well-developed systems and ideologies (Ritual and Mythos) of both nations. (See Jacolliot and Massey.)

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 22:32 utc | 58

Errata/correction/better phraseology:

"...and former members of my congregation (with whom I have not practiced since 1993, and I renounced my Christian faith about a year before that)..."

What I should have written to make it clearer: I last shared this research with those members of my former congregation in 1993 about a year after I stopped "worshiping" with them. Clearly I didn't stick around and engage in their practices for a full year after renouncing. Needless to say, I was also renounced (they don't call it excommunicated for some reason). LOL

Apologies for the long-winded messages and sloppy wording.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 22:39 utc | 59

"She prefers a penis bigger than two 'Anti-Catos'...." Juvenal 6.
oh darn, Caesar's "Anti-Cato" doesn't survive, so just how big is two of them? scroll-sized, don't forget, not book length. how big is the female libido?

"anyway, i am here at the slave auction this morning trying to find someone i could castrate & then use to shoot blanks and keep the missus happy and quiet and virtuous, ie, quiet. post-pubescent youth, duh. and to go shopping w/her and little trifling shit women like, that also wouldn't hurt. but if i hear a complaint from my wife about his performance, i'll cut more than his balls off.

Oh, and does size matter? who doesn't like more? but he can't make her moan too much, or i'll become jealous."

more than a few pateres familias asked the slave auctioneer about and discussed such matters. what else are slaves for? i'm pretty sure the greeks and romans got up to all kinds of stuff, and joked about donkey dicks, w/the best of them.

thanks for that bible verse, Arch Bungle. that's awesome. i thought Ezekiel was about space ships (Ophanim, the wheels w/in wheels) and narcissistic "big horned" sheep fighting w/each other over access to the watering hole. donkey dicks? damn. any other dirty parts of the bible you know about?

"whatever your hand finds to do, do it mightily, as unto the Lord." except Onanism. the lesson of Onan, one of the lessons learned on mammaw's cruel knee, is: "better to put your seed in the belly of a whore than waste it by spilling it on the ground." A lesson we kids happily disputed.

i guess celibacy simplifies things. but what's the value of austerity if one never knows what one is missing from the folly of "too much"? what is too much? when is a woman's credit "too much"?

William Blake - “The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom...You never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough." let's hope this is true of missile envy.


Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 16 2022 22:41 utc | 60

viagra infused rooskie rape brigades! oh my!

hyper-masculine rape and hyper-feminine lack of control at the same time. will the latex Trojans break against such raging libidos???? will the USG have to provide abortions for all those rooskie commie rape victim babies everywhere???? or does the US not even believe in providing contraception against the red forces of rapine?

the children of the puritans birthed and bred in temperance societies while being fed Hostess Ding Dongs (tm) are...gullible. tell them the red rape brigades are part of a plot to outbreed the West, and they'll be providing abortions for all in Ukraine before Greg Abbott can finish shooting that 4th bobcat he's currently mowing down on his day off.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 16 2022 23:01 utc | 61

I called up the local school system and asked if they were hiring "Groomers" and guess what? not even for minimum wage.

however, they were hiring security guards to man, excuse me, staff the security gates and metal detectors, monitor the CCTV everywhere, build more fences, and taze any uppidy youth. they weren't hiring nurses or nutritionists either. nurses? not even w/all the med management kids need today?

the Uvalde police dept is hiring everywhere in the land. Americans are so stupid they literally believe they are going to shoot the coronavirus. with bullets. from guns. which is why so much of their "corona money" has gone straight to cops. so, no nurses, no mental health counselors. cops? yes. groomers? utter bullshit.

i've got a suspicion that Big Ag is very happy with the food culture of the US and tickled pink to see people unconcerned, totally unconcerned, about how fat and diabetic their kids are. all nourished by the school system.

i've also got a suspicion there's more than quite a few Marjorie Taylor Green types feeding off of the hysteria, a largely artificial hysteria, of a very concussed people more concerned about the agenda of "big gay" than "big football."

and people who want to privatize the school system. Evangelical Christians who love love love Jesus. Catholic Opus Dei fascists. and good old fashion religious grifting, for the kids, as usual. Trump U anyone?

my oh my, the biggest promoter in the world of QAnon ran a fraudulent university.

and for the record, all my grooming was done by Joe Paterno, Bernard Law and Dennis Hastert. if people want to start somewhere with the sexual violence in this society, why not start where it's most prevalent, the PRISON system? because, for one, number 2 on the agenda would be the military, number 3 would be the schools, and number 4 would be the churches.

but here comes the donkeys, w/some estrogen or gender studies or whatever. sounds like some #Metoo shit the democrats would come up with. more prisons are being built, but have some estrogen w/your Hostess Ding Dong, now renamed King Don (tm). for the kiddies.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 16 2022 23:25 utc | 62

Tom Collins:
If you want to check inspirations to the character of Jesus, then there's an obvious one: Socrates.
Guy who has some philisophical-religious teachings, annoys the current ruling ideology, disturbs the "common wisdom" of his society, pisses of the rulers and the elite to the point they want to put him to death. Always surrounded by a group of young male disciples, including one or a few favourites. Is condemned to death. Can actually escape (Christ being of divine nature, he could obviously have found a way out by using his true power, like when the Devil tempted him), yet decides to stay and willingly go on with his own death. Dies surrounded by a few of his followers and close family. Never wrote anything, only oral teachings, yet ends up having a few disciples and later followers writing about him, praising him, and increasing his fame even more - though the most famous of his followers tends to put his own views into the writings and passes them as those of the initial martyr's, and these views have a huge impact on the world and are widely spread across the Mediterranean.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Oct 16 2022 23:26 utc | 63

@ rjb1.5 | Oct 16 2022 22:41 utc | 60

Since you mention William Blake, consider what he actually has to say in defense of the prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel:

"The Prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel dined with me, and I asked them how they dared so roundly to assert that God
spoke to them; and whether they did not think at the time that they would be misunderstood, and so be the cause
of imposition.

"Isaiah answer'd: `I saw no God, nor heard any, in a finite organical perception; but my senses discover'd the
infinite in everything, and as I was then persuaded, and remain confirm'd, that the voice of honest indignation is
the voice of God, I cared not for consequences, but wrote.'"

From William Blake, "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell"

Posted by: Cabe | Oct 16 2022 23:30 utc | 64

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 22:39 utc | 59

Apologies for the long-winded messages and sloppy wording.

Tom, thanks for your honesty, no need for apology.. when I declared, I no longer believe in gods all my loved ones refuses to talk to me I mean email or WhatsApp... only later my bother decided to make up... I have good reasons to stick my middle finger at gods... I just cannot believe so much evils done to the Palestinians... Iraq... Afghan, China... especially the Arabs..

The Democratic and Republicans are same same no different at all

Posted by: JC | Oct 16 2022 23:37 utc | 65

"my oh my, the biggest promoter in the world of QAnon ran a fraudulent university."

while being a friend of bill with the epstein crowd. a completely amoral piece of shit. and americans him as the Messiah. Trump is the ideal self of the US.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 16 2022 23:37 utc | 66

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Oct 16 2022 23:26 utc | 63

Socrates' story sounds like a good comparison. Ever seen this?

"The Passion of the Socrates" - Movie Pitch Monday

https://platosacademic.wordpress.com/2018/08/27/the-passion-of-socrates-my-socrates-movie-pitch/

I was focused on pre-Christian religions and mysticism when doing my research back in the day b/c I dumbly thought it would carry more weight with my relatives and members of the congregation.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 23:40 utc | 67

Cabe | Oct 16 2022 23:30 utc | 64
what makes you think i'm making fun of Ezekiel?

"Oh! the metempsychosis! Oh! Pythagoras, that in bright Greece, two thousand years ago, did die, so good, so wise, so mild; I sailed with thee along the Peruvian coast last voyage—and, foolish as I am, taught thee, a green simple boy, how to splice a rope!"

per wiki,
The philosopher Pythagoras claimed to be a reincarnation of Euphorbus, according to Heraclides of Pontus (as reported by Diogenes Laërtius)[7] and Philostratus.[8] In the Metamorphoses of Ovid (15, 160–164), Pythagoras is again said to have claimed to be a reincarnation of Euphorbus.

Euphorbus is described as an olive tree in the Iliad.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 16 2022 23:41 utc | 68

Posted by: JC | Oct 16 2022 23:37 utc | 65

Thanks, like you I haven't spoken to some of my relatives for a long time, including my sister. They're still neck deep in their religion. Some of them have even been known to handle live rattlesnakes.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 23:42 utc | 69

the voice of honest indignation is
the voice of God...
Cabe | Oct 16 2022 23:30 utc | 64
that's awesome. but honesty gets one in trouble, thus the need to express indignation indirectly. not in that example from Ezekiel. I think Arch B misunderstood that quote, a failure to appreciate satire. and how sexual humiliation works.

Ez 34: 17 “As for you, my flock, thus says the Lord God: Behold, I judge between sheep and sheep, rams and he-goats. 18 Is it not enough for you to feed on the good pasture, that you must tread down with your feet the rest of your pasture; and to drink of clear water, that you must foul the rest with your feet? 19 And must my sheep eat what you have trodden with your feet, and drink what you have fouled with your feet?

yeah, Zeke not's all bad. Isaiah has his moments.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 16 2022 23:52 utc | 70

William Gruff @54--

I have three candidates for sustainable power for humanity's future: Orbital Solar; Rosatom's 100% fuel cycle nuclear, and all forms of hydro, wind and geothermal, which I term Geopower. Fusion as you note is extremely complex and thus very pricy. IMO, at some future point, it will become possible to get more energy out than what's inputted, but it will not be available to close the energy gap that will begin in earnest by 2030 as hydrocarbon scarcity begins to take hold. Yes, there'll be some nations using and exporting gas into the 22nd Century, but not nearly enough to satisfy global demand. The key to the future is to build out the foundational heavy industry assets required by Global South nations while enough fossil fuels exist at a decent price. And the need for Peace to get it accomplished.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 17 2022 0:06 utc | 71

rjb1.5 | Oct 16 2022 23:52 utc | 70
though to be fair, they are mostly full of it. Joshua, Judges, Deuteronomy, Habakkuk...

Habakkuk: the destruction of the wild animals will terrify you.

Habakkuk did not count on people's capacity to cultivate indifference as a sign of their spiritual maturity and "non-attachment".

"There are three conditions which often look alike
Yet differ completely, flourish in the same hedgerow:
Attachment to self and to things and to persons, detachment
From self and from things and from persons; and, growing between them, indifference..." Eliot 4 quartets

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 17 2022 0:11 utc | 72

Has this already been posted? It seems like something one of the regulars would certainly have linked in another thread as it is apropos to a very frequent theme at MoA.

https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/16/patrick-lawrence-the-non-west-coalesces/

Small excerpt:

The world just took a significant turn into the 21st century. Let us stay abreast of it, leaving those who refuse to see this to their own devices.

President Biden, apparently not intelligent enough to understand the emergent new era and indifferent to the interests and aspirations of others, quickly made as big a mess of things as could be made. Last week he threatened Saudi Arabia, which co-chairs OPEC–Plus with the Russian Federation, with “consequences” for what transpired in Vienna. This is what imperiums do when their primacy is threatened—they encourage the very currents in history they are determined to disrupt.

As reported everywhere, OPEC–Plus decided to reduce the oil production of member nations by two million barrels per day as of next month. This may amount to an actual cut of half that amount, as many OPEC–Plus members—Nigeria, for instance—have not been lifting to their quotas anyway. But oil prices are already increasing, and we will soon see this at our filling stations. As retail prices rise, it is likely to complicate the political fortunes of the Biden administration and Democrats on Capitol Hill just as the midterm elections approach. So, a pretty big deal.

But this is not the half of what transpired in Vienna two weeks ago. Saudi Arabia, long the driving wheel in OPEC, effectively declared its long history of subservience to Washington, by way of which oil production has been exchanged for security guarantees, to be on the way out. One of Washington’s bedrock allies in the Middle East, Israel being the other, just took a major step toward the coalescence of non–Western nations into a coherent bloc acting in its own interests.

This is more than a pretty big deal. It brings us considerably closer to the new world order Russia and China, the two most influential non–Western nations, have been talking about for several years and notably since the Biden administration took power in January 2021. Within months, Beijing and Moscow concluded that there is no making sense of a nation that, even as its power declines, has no intention of working with them as equals to mutual benefit. Since then, numerous other countries have had little trouble detecting which way the wind blows.

The Ukraine crisis has sent a new bolt of electricity through this geopolitical trend. Nations representing more than 80 percent of the global population and a like percentage of global gross domestic product are perfectly capable of seeing the Biden administration’s pointed provocations and do not approve.

Partnerships that stop just short of alliances—a term of statecraft entailing explicit obligations in the way of mutual defense—have multiplied so quickly since Joe Biden took office it is hard to keep track of them. Russia’s “no limits” relationship with China is the premier case. Russia has recently consolidated its cooperative ties with Iran. So has China. Iran and Venezuela, China and Cuba, China and Nicaragua—the list goes on. As we speak, Moscow and Beijing are developing partnerships of various kinds in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia.

But these nations, it is easy to note, are by and large beyond Washington’s fence posts: The policy cliques, this is to say, have them down as enemies. Every nation just named is currently subjected to U.S. sanctions. Parenthetically, I do have to wonder what happens when most of the world other than the Anglosphere and Western Europe is condemned in this way, but that is another conversation. [article continues w/ more details]

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 17 2022 0:25 utc | 73

Clueless Joe | Oct 16 2022 23:26 utc | 63
"The Trial" at the center of the Western tradition is not some kind of accident. might be one of the distinguishing features of the "western tradition".

which of the characters listed by Tom Q Collins endure the trial by ordeal of outfacing the crowd? i'm not sure. but it does raise the question: in this kind of broad study that Tom is referring to, is the significant thing how they are alike, or how they are different?

btw, there is another figure who meets your description. the bard's "newborn christom babe," Falstaff. the death scene is transparently modeled on the death of Socrates. as is the question, who is the corrupter of youth, who the true teacher? and, like Jesus and Socrates, after his own fashion, he did "handle women". and wine. and who knows who his true heirs are?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 17 2022 0:27 utc | 74

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 17 2022 0:27 utc | 74

Re: Trial by ordeal, etc. One common 'rebuttal' I got from some of those people was that of betrayal. To them it suddenly became incredibly important that Christ was betrayed by a friend. Seems quite a small detail to fixate on with all of the other similarities.

In any case, trial by ordeal. Seeing the turn of phrase brought a song to mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=251Blni2AE4

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 17 2022 0:39 utc | 75

The problem with left-wing (capitalism-challenging) groups/site/politicians refusing to acknowledge even the right to debate the whole mRNA "vaccine" matter (efficacy, reasons for force-feeding it, profiteering, possible corruption) is that if the only people recognising that right, allowing that debate, are the right-wing - then what is left of the visible left will dissolve into irrelevance.

Posted by: Hope | Oct 17 2022 0:42 utc | 76

Non-hydrocarbon power is expensive to develop, but consider what the US might have accomplished if even half its defense budget had been spent on peaceful science for the last 25 years.

I’ve read, but haven’t bothered to confirm, that the last hurdle to realizing real geothermal power is making drill equipment capable of surviving the heat. The techniques of fracking have already solved the issue of creating buried steam reserves. If this is the case, the last hurdle of heat shielding drilling equipment that only needs to be used once seems like a solid investment. Whether it’s possible is beyond my scientific capability, but that seems like a worthy moon shot.

Posted by: Lex | Oct 17 2022 0:57 utc | 77

karlof1 @71

Yes, Rosatom's closed fuel cycle nuclear offering checks a whole lot of the boxes on what humanity needs. While it is more expensive than I would like to see, it is cheaper and friendlier to the planet than the atomic alternatives (France's atomic fuel cycle, for instance, or America's where a huge portion of the nuclear cost is kicked down the road). The Russians have clearly put some thought into it.

It is not the perfect answer for the needs of the Global South, but it certainly can be made to work, and in relatively short order.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 17 2022 1:05 utc | 78

Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 17 2022 0:39 utc | 75
awesome. what does music itself mean, as a "spiritual" phenomenon? at 1st on that video, i was like, "what? leonard jamming on the guitar??? no way." still great.

anyway, isn't "trial by trial", ie, inside a courtroom, based on law (supposedly) and all that, an effort to get away from trial by combat/ordeal?

or maybe not. another Cohen classic.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 17 2022 1:07 utc | 79

President Xi muses on the achievements of the CCP.

https://www-anti--spiegel-ru.translate.goog/2022/welche-politischen-prioritaeten-der-chinesische-praesident-verkuendet-hat/?doing_wp_cron=1665969785.8256530761718750000000&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

Eds introduction:-

The party congress of the Chinese Communist Party and the speech of Chinese President Xi Jinping have taken up a lot of space in German media reports, but the reports - as is usual with reports on states declared enemies by the West - were often very emotional and not very informative. To show how it was reported in Russia, I translated the Russian news agency TASS' summary of Xi Jinping's speech.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 1:29 utc | 80

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 16 2022 13:34 utc | 3
Posted by: too scents | Oct 16 2022 12:33 utc | 2


It is lose-lose for US tech as they forfeit both their manufacturing base and biggest market.
The Semicon blockade is a big deal with many huge ramifications including increased likelihood of Taiwan troubles.

Russia relies on China to a large extent for semiconductors. An attempt by the USA to collapse the semiconductor industry of China is a direct attack on Russia.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 17 2022 1:36 utc | 81

Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 17 2022 0:39 utc | 75
a la Kafka, Orwell, etc., the trial and the problem of betrayal: the legal system, designed to overcome the inequities of trial by ordeal, incl trial by war, betrays the participants? so we have a systemic betrayal, in the legal system? and something so pervasive and nightmarish that it makes being dunked as a witch look tame? a gigantic penal, surveilling, policing bureaucracy, global in its aspirations, all in the name of law and fairness?

how does that happen? how does mighty Athens betray its greatest teacher (assuming Socrates was such)?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 17 2022 1:38 utc | 82

how does that happen?
rjb1.5 | October 17, 2022 at 01:38
one obvious betrayal - WA state capitol, Olympia, has two monumental buildings beside each other: the Temple of Justice and the Temple of...Insurance. I am not kidding. how does justice become systemic injustice? could that temple to Mammon outside justice's courts have anything to do with it? not unrelated, iirc, the other big building there is the "temple of public lands" or some such, which might as well be named the Temple of Tree Chopping. department of education funding comes via "the department of imagination", aka the Lotto. they don't hide how everything, yes Mandrake, including children's ice cream, is debased and degraded by measuring its value solely in terms of money. i'm outta here! gotta go relearn my gender norms from Disney's "She-Hulk."

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Oct 17 2022 1:48 utc | 83

@33 Juliania

Yes, one can see the perfection of the Logos-made-flesh by bridging the Old and New Testaments.

I see the pernicious Jewish-influence in most every facet of modern life that seeks to denigrate the Gospels or render them irrational or unintelligible. Even in the import of eastern religions which westerners foolishly think they have the same access to as easterners. Have they not read the great work of E.M. Forester, "A Passage to India?" How can we possibly understand a culture that has a designated place for scammers, for instance? We can not.

How many trust-fund liberals are here at the bar now? Maybe they had rich parents that allowed them to travel eastward and experience India. I know that Louis Malle had a great documentary called "Phantom India" (that man had terrific documentaries!) and all Louis Malle could conclude in the end was that it left an indelible though utterly obscure imprint on his psyche. This is about as pantheistic as I get, though being a Christian means that at the end of the day, Christ is the Logos and so "no one may go to the Father except through (Him)."

Maybe Christians can do works of charity to reveal Christianity to the peoples of the east, but it should not forcibly impose itself on any cultures. After all, there is great suffering in these countries that hold you are born into a caste due to transgressions from a prior life, etc.

But back to the Jewish-Q.

Wouldn't you be at war with the religion that has rendered yours obsolete, or that has in the past banned most of the practices that your tribe advocates for in the Talmud? Of course then, I think there is the synagogue of Satan behind all of the attempts to scramble Christianity and obfuscate it.

In the west, historically, great periods of culture have aligned themselves with a strong sense of Christ being the center of it. It is not hard to see that there is a nationalistic element in Christianity that should not be dismissed in favor for what gets thrown about today with Christianity saving the individual. The Catholic and Orthodox Faiths are rightly essential to a people in organizing themselves appropriately for a sustainable culture. Your freedom as a westerner is grounded in the principles of Christianity and, consequently, we see that as these principles have been eroded, so to does the "public life" of the nation.

To better drive this point home, I will add that Catholics I have heard despise Hegel because the gist of Hegel's philosophy is that world-history is the path of spirit traveling towards Absolute Mind. Basically, philosophy is advanced by dialectics towards its end. Well, you can see where Christians would find this idea as opposed to the thought that Christ was the end of this reveal and so Absolute Mind for all eternity. IOW, it already happened.

However, I think Hegel's philosophy and Christianity can be reconciled and it was indeed done by Soren Kierkegaard. For Hegel, Christ was the Absolutely-concrete, the Logos-made-Flesh. And yet still, how can it be that spirit continues to advance? Because the work of Christ through the Holy Spirit is not complete. It still reaches out and converts young and old, strong and weary alike every day.

When I think of Christianity, I think of an acorn. In its teeny-tininess lies perhaps one of the earth's great sources of potential energy. In the palm of your hand, you can hold a massive oak tree. So too, when we happen to be blessed enough to instill on others this amazing truth through the teaching of the Gospel, we create soldiers of light throughout history who have transformed countries and empires by taking the path of the weak and supple. I notice this dire thirst in the eyes of young people today. I try to reach them however I can.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 17 2022 1:53 utc | 84

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 16 2022 21:02 utc | 49

China was more that happy to purchase the AP-1000 reactors from Westinghouse until the US required a license be obtained from the Department of Commerce. Restricting China's access forced them to develop their own second generation nuclear power plants for domestic use, plus they now export the technology. I see an ongoing theme with US restrictions and China.

Posted by: One Too Many | Oct 17 2022 2:12 utc | 85

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2022 22:17 utc | 57

You should add Caeser's Messiah by Joseph Atwill to your list.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 17 2022 2:14 utc | 86

@83 NemesisCalling | Oct 17 2022 1:53 utc - "the import of eastern religions which westerners foolishly think they have the same access to as easterners"

As someone who has directly benefited from that very import, I would like to point out that it hasn't just been the teachings of Buddhism, for example, that have arrived in the west: the teachers themselves came also. This is especially true of the Tibetan diaspora that brought many highly accomplished people to an audience that would otherwise never have encountered them.

I was taught Buddhist practices by monks in robes, and ordained lamas, as well as by westerners who had in turn gone before me and had themselves learned and experienced things they could then pass on to newer students.

I just wanted to share that because I believe sincerely that the east is quite accessible to those who can encounter its authentic representation in the west.

~~

There has been some strange talk in this thread regarding Buddhism, and practically everything said about it or about the Buddha seems to be completely at odds with what I have learned.

I don't feel able at the moment to comment much about this, but I wanted to offer caution to any casual reader who may get the impression that Buddhism is a failed endeavor, or is not an authentic experience in the west.

In my own experience as a practitioner of Buddhist teachings, here in the USA, I can only testify that Buddhism has flourished and is flourishing in the west, and that its meditation is a source of great vitality and deep happiness to millions of people.

The great historian Arnold Toynbee claimed that of all the momentous events that occurred in the 20th Century, the coming to the west of Buddhism might prove in the end to have been the most significant - this, in a century of two world wars and a great depression. We shall see. Too soon to tell, perhaps, but I think it cannot be refuted that Buddhism has found another home in the west.

I've heard it said that throughout history, and across the globe, wherever Buddhism has taken root, two things have occurred. One is that it has coexisted harmoniously with the prevailing religions of that place. And two is that the place itself exhibited a flourishing of culture and "civilization" (for want of better terms) over time.

I can think of no place that could use such an experience more than the USA - so one can hope ;)

~~

And since the talk here is of religions (which I don't hold the Buddha's teachings to constitute, personally), I will say that from being raised as a Christian, and growing estranged from that religion as I grew older, my embrace of Buddhism has kindled a fellowship with sincere Christians, and a great love of their experience of the sacred. I found, from Buddhism, that I now had a way to engage with Christianity (and Islam), as well as any pursuit that sought the comfort and company of the ineffable divine.

So greetings to you all, ye believers. May it bring you joy :)

Posted by: Grieved | Oct 17 2022 2:44 utc | 87

@ c1ue | Oct 16 2022 20:46 utc | 46

i fully concur! in fact, the set up is the same here as what happened in 2008.. that time obama bailed the banks who were the con artists responsible for all the problems.. it will be the same this time... the gov't - ie people - will bail out these con artists and corrupt thieves... it will be under the threat that everything will go down if they don't get saved... this is the nature of present day banking... screw the little people and get the gov't to bail out the banks... meanwhile the banksters do all sorts of crazy shit while everyone is supposed to think it is normal... derivatives are not normal.. they are as buffett says - weapons of mass destruction..

interesting article on this here.. they are a type of insurance, but they are not backed by fundamentals..

Why Warren Buffett Trades In Derivatives And Why You Shouldn’t

Posted by: james | Oct 17 2022 2:48 utc | 88

Melaleuca @ 50

Comment of the morning!
Bloody good

Posted by: Subtropical | Oct 17 2022 2:49 utc | 89

@ Grieved | Oct 17 2022 2:44 utc | 86

hear, hear! i 2nd your commentary... its an insane comment from nemesis calling, but what else is new?

Posted by: james | Oct 17 2022 2:51 utc | 90

@ Melaleuca | Oct 16 2022 21:04 utc | 50

that's funny! nice poetry! and i think you are right too!

Posted by: james | Oct 17 2022 2:52 utc | 91

@ Grieved

Thx for the post. I have no doubt that you have experienced a greater understanding through those visitors.

My question to you would be do you think identifying with others in a nation should be like going to a buffet restaurant or going to a Michelin 3-star? It's a bad metaphor but you will understand I know. Do countries need a unifying religion to be happy? I think culture is greatly enriched when there is homogeneity.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 17 2022 3:16 utc | 92

-- karlof1 | Oct 17 2022 0:06 utc | 71
-- William Gruff | Oct 17 2022 1:05 utc | 78

I think maybe the future of energy lies in 'burning' pure water in water reactors. It's the chemical analog of the nuclear fission reactor, but you only need water (H2O) to get vast amounts of energy.

Posted by: blues | Oct 17 2022 3:38 utc | 93

You guys crack me up.

We all recognize the zato narrative that vpp woke up one morning and decided to attack poor little innocent Ukraine is beyond ridiculous.

Rather, informed persons well understand the very long train of abuses and clearly signaled intent that finally forced Russia to move into defense.

OK, then why do people who are keenly aware of this essential truth then seemingly flip 180 when it comes to WEF assessments as to limits, depletion, overshoot and degradation?

Like, well since we're super evil we simply desire to enslave the world for the sake of power even though there's adequate resources for all to fulfill and equitable fair life.

???

If you can't accept the reality that every avenue has been explored over the last 70 years (Hubberts report really got the nuke power going in the 50s) and found to be far from being even a remotely sufficient substitute, then you're going to continue to experience the same lack of clarity that afflicts mindless pro Ukraine cheerleaders.

The reality is that WEF members know perfectly well what's coming, and are trying to position themselves for maximum benefit.

The Ukraine gambit is but a mere subset of the Russian play to buy some time to keep the credit money system going while the masses are prepped, tagged and bagged for a future full spectrum surveillance state.

Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 17 2022 3:38 utc | 94

gone for 4 days.. back next weekend... cheers

Posted by: james | Oct 17 2022 3:52 utc | 95

For the religious.
And not
For the musicians
And not
Something 30 years ago… as the video quality attests.
But perfect pitch never goes out of style.
Timeless.
From the Jesus Christ Superstar 1992 final Sydney performance.
John Farnham. (For not Aussies). = The greatest singer you’ve never heard of.
Give it 6mins35secs.
Gethsemane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5woMZtClhI

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 17 2022 4:21 utc | 96

Addendum:

For westerners, is Buddhism and the like just a respite for weary travellers who refuse to pull their load in Christendom? To me it doesn't matter what you want to do with your life...it is a matter of best living the life you are given or thrown into.

We can see the damage that Talmudism has done to the west where Christianity used to keep its worst aspects in check.

What is the point of Buddhism exactly?

What if not having a united Christian front against it plays right into their hands?

Back to the buffet analogy: in the nw we have Mongolian buffets where at the end of the food gathering, you throw your plate at the grill man who dumps it on a huge circular grill.

If you squint just right, the Mexicans working it look like Mongols.

In this buffet of individualistic offerings, I picture instead of Mexicans or Mongols manning the grill at the end, there are despicable Talmudists.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 17 2022 4:31 utc | 97

Nemisiscalling at Oct 17 2022 3:16 utc | 91, I don't think of Christianity as a culture that needs to be taught and unified in a nation - the US used to be multi-polar culturally speaking, and indeed even within faiths there are the fundamentalists and the ecumenicals, and persons with individual 'reads' on their common practice, simply because we each have very particular only to ourselves experiences growing up, meeting others and interacting with them. We ought to be open to others, to learn from them what makes them tick. To learn with them what makes us tick.

A lover of the works of Antoine St Exupery tracked down and went to visit the German pilot who all unknowingly had shot down that author in an air battle. As I remember the story, he saw on the bookshelves in the house all of St. Exupery's works. These are times like that - there is no way out other than forgiveness, acceptance, respect for alternate views, alternate depths of spirit. Multipolarity of spirit.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 17 2022 5:18 utc | 98

Back to the buffet analogy: in the nw we have Mongolian buffets where at the end of the food gathering, you throw your plate at the grill man who dumps it on a huge circular grill. NemesisCalling

From the little I read about food in Mongolia, I am convinced that Mongolian buffets are a Chinese invention modified for American consumption. This is how a Mongol describes "Mongolian barbecue": "Mongolian barbecue is a special cuisine offered on special occasions. It is popular cuisine from Genghis Khan ; a founder of Mongolia Empire. We put meat (sheep and goats), potatoes, carrots, turnips, onions, garlic, and some water into a large pot together with hot rocks. Make sure to tightly close the pot and allow it to stand for half an hour in open fire. The heat of the stones cooks the meat and vegetables thoroughly. We believe that holding the hot stones helps to relieve tiredness and improve blood circulation."

Note that "we" here are contemporary Mongols, in all probability, Genghis Khan did not know potatoes. Note also a difference between the rhythm of life in the steppe, where you wait for half an hour for your dish to be "exactly right", and fast pace of a "Mongolian grill". Another version of "grilling" is to use a leather sack instead of a pot, or even the skin of the animal itself: a marmot can be stuffed with veggies and hot stones from the open fire, and then you wait until it is all tender. Try to find THAT in nw.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 17 2022 5:31 utc | 99

Reposting my find at anti-spiegel.ru

What political priorities the Chinese President has announced

The German media reports on the Chinese Communist Party Congress and the Chinese President's speech were very emotional, which is why I will show the bare facts here.

The party congress of the Chinese Communist Party and the speech of Chinese President Xi Jinping have taken up a lot of space in German media reports, but the reports - as is usual with reports on states declared enemies by the West - were often very emotional and not very informative. To show how it was reported in Russia, I translated the Russian news agency TASS' summary of Xi Jinping's speech.

The goblins swallowed my earlier attempt but, barflies, do goto anti-spiegel.ru for a good read on this and other current issues.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 17 2022 5:49 utc | 100

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