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October 10, 2022

Russia, Having 'Run Out Of Missiles', Launches Barrage On Ukraine

Back in March I had warned that Lies Do Not Win Wars. Here is another practical example.

After allegedly having 'run out of missiles' and, more importantly, patience, the leadership of the Russian Federation decided to de-electrify Ukrainian cities with a 'barrage of missile strikes'.

But first came the propaganda blubber:

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Then a warning:

'We Haven't Started Yet,' Putin Says in Hawkish Speech on Ukraine Invasion - Haaretz - Jul 7, 2022

President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had barely got started in Ukraine and dared the West to try to defeat it on the battlefield, while insisting that Moscow was still open to the idea of peace talks.
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"Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. What can you say, let them try," he said.

"We have heard many times that the West wants to fight us to the last Ukrainian. This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but it seems that everything is heading towards this."
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"Everyone should know that, by and large, we haven't started anything yet in earnest," he added. "At the same time, we don't reject peace talks. But those who reject them should know that the further it goes, the harder it will be for them to negotiate with us."

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Total disregard:

U.S. Believes Ukrainians Were Behind an Assassination in Russia - NY Times - Oct 5, 2020
American officials said they were not aware of the plan ahead of time for the attack that killed Daria Dugina and that they had admonished Ukraine over it.

UN: Ukraine nuclear power plant loses external power link - ABC News - Oct 8, 2022
The U.N. nuclear watchdog says that Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, the biggest in Europe, has lost its last remaining external power source as a result of renewed shelling and is now relying on emergency diesel generators

Ukraine unveils stamps celebrating Kerch bridge explosion - hours after the attack - Telegraph - Oct 8, 2022
Timing of the Post Office announcement, just hours after the Crimea bridge was destroyed, raises questions about the nature of the damage

Syricide @Syricide - 8:33 UTC · 10 Oct 2022 #Kiev yesterday.

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Consequences:

Russia Unleashes Biggest Barrage of Strikes on Ukraine Since Invasion - WSJ - Oct 10, 2022
Cities throughout Ukraine, including Kyiv, are bombarded after Putin slams Ukraine over Crimea bridge blast

KYIV, Ukraine—Russia carried out waves of strikes on several Ukrainian cities including the capital in the broadest and most intense onslaught since the start of the invasion, after President Vladimir Putin accused Ukraine of a “terrorist attack” on a critical bridge connecting Russia’s mainland to the occupied Crimean Peninsula.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Russia had carried out dozens of strikes using missiles as well as Iranian-made drones to target civilian and power infrastructure. “They want panic and chaos,” he said. “They want to destroy our energy system.”

Ukraine "under missile attack" as explosions rock Kyiv and other cities - CBSNews - Oct 10, 2022

Kyrylo Tymoshenko, deputy head of the president's office, said on social media Monday that, "Ukraine is under missile attack. There is information about strikes in many cities of our country."

General Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, said on Twitter that Russia had launched 75 missiles at Ukraine but that "41 of them were neutralized by our air defence."

Zelenskyy later emerged onto a street in Kyiv to record a selfie video with a message to his people and the world, denouncing Russia for the barrage of missiles which he said had targeted Ukraine's energy infrastructure, and its civilians.

Kiev, Lviv, Karkov, Dnipropetrovsk, Krivoy Rog all report damage to their electricity infrastructure.

Posted by b on October 10, 2022 at 10:00 UTC | Permalink

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It certainly was inadvisable and crude for the Ukrainian Post Office to have released such a stamp so soon after the attack on the Crimea Bridge. Such a stupid act left no doubt in Moscow as to who the likely perpetrators behind the attack were. Moscow may well have other plans to strike those who likely collaborated with the Ukrainians on attacking the bridge.

Posted by: Jen | Oct 10 2022 10:17 utc | 1

Saint Zelensky: "They want to destroy our energy system"
Correction: They are destroying our energy system.

Posted by: FakeBelieve | Oct 10 2022 10:18 utc | 2

Too many won't get this is still only a shot across the bow, way ahead of serious sub-zero temperatures.

Posted by: Erast Fandorin | Oct 10 2022 10:19 utc | 3

Good points b.

Yes, all this and an idea of a real possibility that Russia can do that 24/7 until there are no two connected bricks left across Ukraine.

We all hope Ukraine understands now, but I doubt it.

West will 'double-down' its money and weapons support, Russia will negate it by probably stepping up demolition.

I just think from the Western point of a view, just too much money has been invested into Ukraine to back down just like that.

It definitely requires more pain. But I think Russia is done with the West as of today.

Posted by: whirlX | Oct 10 2022 10:20 utc | 4

What a surprise (NOT!) - the danger of wiping out the grid in northern Ukraine is that it will push nazis to the Odessa region exactly where Russia doesnt need them. Recent tactical withdrawals have successfully drawn out the best NATO trained troops UKraine has left onto the open plains around Kherson and Kharkiv ready for the survivors to become bogged down in October mud and then liquidated as soon as earth is frozen allowing fresh Russian tanks to roll over the plains/steppes to Odessa and Transnistra.
Why not just punish NATO by freezing all gas and uranium exports until NATO has retreated back to its 1996 membership ?

Posted by: Gatt | Oct 10 2022 10:20 utc | 5

George Galloway's latest MOATS is quite the barn burner. He pulls out all the stops in warning this is heading to nuclear Armageddon if saner heads don't prevail.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6HiDEL2sNpg

Posted by: krypton | Oct 10 2022 10:22 utc | 6

The BBC is on full 'Russia is losing badly' mode. Great attempt to explain shortages of gas, as well, if they are 'necessary' to help The Ukraine. Laughable stuff.

Posted by: Merkin Scot | Oct 10 2022 10:22 utc | 7

i was thinking something like this will cool down some western heads, but i doubt it. i am expecting double down. they are looking more and more like some sort of suicide pact.

Posted by: denazi | Oct 10 2022 10:25 utc | 8

The thing many people don't also get with missiles is, after these strikes the need to use missiles drops significantly. The job for electricity is mostly done and it will hamper all logistics and ability to produce or transport fuel, weapons, shells, etc.

The alternative is to use fuel to transport fuel, weapon, etc. But fuel is already running low in EU-rope (look at France). The only way they get fuel is if Nato confiscates it from civilian use, which they probably can do, but then you get a whole host of domestic problems.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2022 10:32 utc | 9

The almost daily forecast by Helmer:

http://johnhelmer.net/russian-army-fires-old-sparky-us-loses-the-electric-war-in-the-ukraine/

"Slowly but surely, but also secretly, the war is destroying the electric generation on which the Ukraine depends for everything – trains, water pumps, sewage treatment, light, heat, mobile telephones, refrigerators, radio and television, not to mention production lines in factories, in abattoirs, sausage making and other farm and food processing.

However, there remains electricity for the Ukrainian military operations to continue on the eastern front, and for cross-border trains to run into Lvov from Poland with fresh arms, ammunition, and rotating allied military staff advisers, together with NATO politicians and journalists keen to advertise their support.

In the wake of the attack on the Crimean Bridge, the electric war can now be expected to escalate."

Posted by: Peter M | Oct 10 2022 10:43 utc | 10

Ukro-shills are awfully quiet this morning. What's the narrative gonna be?

Posted by: Putin Plan Trust0r | Oct 10 2022 10:43 utc | 11

The interesting point about the stamp, evidently printed well in advance with a fake photo, is that it shows where they planned for the bomb to go off. But in fact it went off too soon at a point where it did less damage to the bridge, more easily repaired. Or that they blew the bomb sooner because the truck was below the fuel train.

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 10 2022 10:44 utc | 12

I love this from b's post
"Zelenskyy later emerged onto a street in Kyiv to record a selfie video with a message to his people and the world, denouncing Russia for the barrage of missiles which he said had targeted Ukraine's energy infrastructure, and its civilians."

Since there is a shortage of both electricity and internet, and the "streets" won't be exactly the best place to make TV appearances - This is evidence that he is already in "Poland" or somewhere else. With his faithfull green screen for projecting scenes of the empty and calm streets of Kiev behind him.

We only have to ask Pelosi and other "screen idols" where the Green-screen is located, to know where he is hiding.

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 10 2022 10:46 utc | 13

🇷🇺🇺🇦 The result of today's missile strikes:

▪️The following cities were hit:
- Kiev
- Dnepropetrovsk
- Kharkiv
- Zaporozhye
- Ternopil
- Odessa
- Krivoy Rog
- Lviv
- Zhitomir
- Rivne
- Nikolaev
- Krapivnitsky
- Kremenchuk
- Konotop

▪️Strikes on important objects:
- Glavk SBU (Kiev)
- CHPP-5 (Kiev)
- CHPP-6 (Kiev)
- Lviv CHP (Lviv)
- Burshtynska TPP (Ivano-Frankivsk region)
- EU Advisory Mission (Kiev)
- Department of law enforcement agencies (Kiev)

▪️Metro in Kiev and Kharkov stopped

▪️Light gone:
- Lviv
- Zhitomir
- Sumy
- Kharkiv
- Khmelnitsky
- Poltava
- Ternopl
- Lutsk
- Rivne

▪️In many cities of Ukraine, there are problems with water supply and the Internet


https://t.me/intelslava/38845

Posted by: Down South | Oct 10 2022 10:48 utc | 14

Posted by: Putin Plan Trust0r | Oct 10 2022 10:43 utc | 11

Ukro-shills are awfully quiet this morning. What's the narrative gonna be?

They don't know and can't post, since their offices are without power or internet uplink, i guess.

Posted by: Omovic | Oct 10 2022 10:49 utc | 15

Posted by: Putin Plan Trust0r | Oct 10 2022 10:43 utc | 11

They always go quiet when electricity or the internet goes out in certain regions. The CIA has some auxiliary bots soon to be activated.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2022 10:52 utc | 16

I think, after this The West or Ukraine would never negotiate with Russia.
The West would wage nuclear war.
They say they will kill Putin with surgical strike.

Posted by: marko | Oct 10 2022 10:56 utc | 17

The narrative writes itself, since russia can not win on the battlefield it will target civilans harder. More warcrimes, more schmers, more torture.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Oct 10 2022 10:59 utc | 18

I think, after this The West or Ukraine would never negotiate with Russia. The West would wage nuclear war. They say they will kill Putin with surgical strike.

LOL --low effort. 0/10

Posted by: NATOShillDisrespekTr | Oct 10 2022 11:00 utc | 19

Talking about the battlefield. There goes the Ukro offensive punch, in addition to the cascade of failed attacks over several last weeks.

According to Ukrainian reports, up to 25% of their air defenses were destroyed in the first hours, now up to 50%. According to first estimates, AFU AA missiles shot down only 13 Russian missiles, their own anti-aircraft missiles burned more than 40 cars as missile parts fell, also destroyed some housing in Lvov, Dnepropetrovsk, Kiev, Zhitomir, Kharkov.

Shaheds destroyed about 180 people in the Kherson region and Zaporozhye, mostly senior officers and soldiers of the SSO AFU.

https://t.me/denatofication/3743

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2022 11:04 utc | 20

"i was thinking something like this will cool down some western heads, but i doubt it. i am expecting double down. they are looking more and more like some sort of suicide pact."

Posted by: denazi | Oct 10 2022 10:25 utc | 8

Yes. The bitter essence of Nazism is to destroy the self. All the rest, the world, is incidental.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 10 2022 11:04 utc | 21

russia can not win on the battlefield

Every Ukrainian city is a part of the battlefield.

Posted by: NATOShillDisrespekTr | Oct 10 2022 11:04 utc | 22

I imagine they could desist now, and wait for power to be restored and the power stations rebuilt, although that may take a while.

However, there's always a large chance that the US will escalate, and supply missiles to target Russian power stations or even nuclear power - they shell ZPP most days.

They really do need to take out the weapons routes - been saying this since forever. And do they know what's in the "empty" grain ships going to Odessa - I assume they have some verification.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 10 2022 11:05 utc | 23

Omovic #15

They're actually based throughout the UK. US based shills are more focused on agitating right/left and ufo/conspiracy conversations.

Posted by: NJH | Oct 10 2022 11:05 utc | 24

NATOShillDisrespekTr | Oct 10 2022 11:04 utc | 22

"Every Ukrainian city is a part of the battlefield."

Well every Donbass city was, so fair's fair. In an ideal world Ukraine wouldn't have been bombing markets and shopping streets.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 10 2022 11:08 utc | 26

The first episode is played.
There will be others.

One more thing. I will express my personal position. I can't help but mention that now. The Ukrainian state in its current configuration with the Nazi political regime will pose a constant, direct and explicit threat to Russia. Therefore, in addition to protecting our people and protecting the country's borders, the goal of our future actions, in my opinion, should be the full dismantling of the political regime of Ukraine.

Первый эпизод сыгран.
Будут и другие.

И ещё. Выскажу личную позицию. Не могу не упомянуть об этом сейчас. Украинское государство в нынешней конфигурации с нацистским политическим режимом будет представлять постоянную, прямую и явную угрозу России. Поэтому помимо защиты наших людей и охраны границ страны целью наших будущих действий, на мой взгляд, должен стать полноценный демонтаж политического режима Украины.

Posted by: MEDVEDEV | Oct 10 2022 11:09 utc | 27

My post from the end of the other thread

It looks to be over for now. In Putin's announcement this morning he made it clear that it was in response to Ukraine's "terrorists actions". In particular and this seems to be news, he said that Ukraine had attempted attacks on the Turk Stream/South Stream pipeline as well as on the Kursk NPP. So not only about the bridge, that was just the trigger.

If they try anything else "attacking Russia in Russia" there will be another "harsh" response. Notwithstanding Russia's ability to turn more washing machines into Kalibres!!!

So it looks to be now back to the slow and careful military build up to the main event in a few weeks. With chunks of the Internet down and the Russians apparently getting a handle on Skynet it will be increasingly difficult for Ukrainian planners and tactical operations.

Posted by: JohninMK | Oct 10 2022 11:20 utc | 28

The Titanic went down in a tragic way but with the utmost poise and dignity. That is why people look at her story with such respect and reverence. We love to watch it many times because it shows the human condition at its most vulnerable and fragile yet at the same time at its greatness and its spirituality, it made come out the best in people.

The ship of Europe, on the other hand, is going down in the opposite way, in the most shameful, grotesque and stupid way, exposing the somber depths of the abyss to which human stupidity, sycophancy and depravity can sink. There will be no epic masterpieces written about this story, only farces, fables and cautionary tales.

Posted by: gatobart | Oct 10 2022 11:22 utc | 29

To point out the obvious. Russia does not have an unlimited supply of cruise missiles, nor does it have an infinite capacity to produce them.

Use of cruise missiles by Russia has dropped as the conflict has worn on, and the fact they are using Iranian drones tells you a lot about Russian weapon capacity.

This missile strike is in retaliation for the Kerch bridge attack. I would question the military wisdom of retaliation that includes parks and people waiting at bus stops. None of this budges Ukrainian forces on the front line a centimetre. It does, however, go down well with a Russian domestic audience and hardliners and help counter the PR generated by the Kerch bridge strike. For the Western audience, it will increase calls for more aid and more missile defence systems to Ukraine.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 11:24 utc | 30

[Forwarded from Juan Sinmiedo/Fearless John/Ukraine exposed. @Youblacksoul]
[ Video ]
■ Ukrainian air defence missile C-300 missed the target and fell in a park in Kiev.

■ Ukrainain air defence is doing more damage now than use.


■Follow me https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/13265


Most of the damage caused by malfunctioning UA air defense missiles. The exact same they did back in February / early March.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2022 11:25 utc | 31

Tom UK with his daily dose of copium LMAO!

Posted by: kozak | Oct 10 2022 11:26 utc | 32

West will 'double-down' its money and weapons support, Russia will negate it by probably stepping up demolition.

I just think from the Western point of a view, just too much money has been invested into Ukraine to back down just like that.

It definitely requires more pain. But I think Russia is done with the West as of today.

Posted by: whirlX | Oct 10 2022 10:20 utc | 4

What a surprise (NOT!) - the danger of wiping out the grid in northern Ukraine is that it will push nazis to the Odessa region exactly where Russia doesnt need them. Recent tactical withdrawals have successfully drawn out the best NATO trained troops UKraine has left onto the open plains around Kherson and Kharkiv ready for the survivors to become bogged down in October mud and then liquidated as soon as earth is frozen allowing fresh Russian tanks to roll over the plains/steppes to Odessa and Transnistra.
Why not just punish NATO by freezing all gas and uranium exports until NATO has retreated back to its 1996 membership

Both of you need a visit to John Helmer's website and read his analysis of the state of the Ukrainian Grid... http://johnhelmer.net/russian-army-fires-old-sparky-us-loses-the-electric-war-in-the-ukraine/

It's the entire Ukrainian grid that is under attack, north, south, east, west...

Modern banking requires dependable electric supply, specifically because it is digital.

Loss of the grid means that Ukraine must go back to paper Hyrvina.... CASH... or barter....

This specifically means that all the billions offered by NATO will stop at the border, unless NATO prints Hyrvina and ferries them into Ukraine.

Regardless, as Helmer mentions, no power means no water, no heat. Shortly, all Ukrainian cities will become un-livable...

INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 10 2022 11:29 utc | 33

gatobart @29

I'd say there is a parallel between the hubris on the Titanic (we're unsinkable, no need to get into the lifeboats, let the band keep playing) and today's hubris towards Russia (we'll ruin their economy, they're about to run out of ammunition, Zelensky will hoist the Ukrainian flag in Moscow soon).

Posted by: aquileia | Oct 10 2022 11:35 utc | 34

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 10 2022 11:29 utc | 33


It's the entire Ukrainian grid that is under attack, north, south, east, west...
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Regardless, as Helmer mentions, no power means no water, no heat. Shortly, all Ukrainian cities will become un-livable...

Note that it appears there were no strikes near the South Ukraine nuclear power plant, but there were strikes near the two nuclear power plants in western Ukraine. This would tend to indicate that Russia plans for this plant in the south to become part of Russia.

And the cleverest part of these strikes against the electricity network (which I've been predicting for months) is that it will cause 20 million Ukrainians to get into their cars and become refugees in the EU. This will help cause the collapse of the EU this winter.

Don't poke the bear :)

Posted by: Contrarian_Ed | Oct 10 2022 11:46 utc | 35

@32 kozak

Oh, the irony. What is this thread if not copium?

I said these cruise missile strikes would go down well with the Russian domestic and hardline audience. I should have specifically included this blog :)

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 11:52 utc | 36

I think Russia is playing a very delicate power game. Politically and economically, he needs China (and India) to stay put, while militarily he wants to reduce Ukrainian capabilities. So he uses the Kerch bridge attack to reduce Ukrainian capabilities, energy and telecommunication (=two senstive areas to keep fighting), while he signals to China (and India) that he wont commit to an all out constant attack on dual use targets.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Oct 10 2022 11:56 utc | 37

The next in line is UK/London to meet Kinhzals, Sarmats. Liz Truss is already buying an umbrella.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 10 2022 11:57 utc | 38

The narrative writes itself, since russia can not win on the battlefield it will target civilans harder. More warcrimes, more schmers, more torture.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Oct 10 2022 10:59 utc | 18

Nah. Russia is not Israel.

Posted by: RB | Oct 10 2022 11:57 utc | 39

Russia stutters: its all 24th February all over again then Moscow will send an oligarch and a "bi-national" to bargain with the fascists trangenders.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Oct 10 2022 11:59 utc | 40

Tom from UK, you mad because AFU anti-air missiles cant take shit down and then hit their own park? (Russians if you read this keep doing the strikes when the parks are empty please, no one wants to see dead civilians from friendly AA fire). Ukies already hit one residential building months back with their AA missiles friendly fire then blamed it on the RF. :D

They show a small crater in the park in Kyiv and sheeplets go baa baa thinking Russians hit city parks with cruise missiles...

Posted by: Jzo | Oct 10 2022 12:02 utc | 41

First response I see in MSM is they are trying to minimize the strikes. Some hours now since b posted and MSM has this as de minimum.

Contrarian Ed @ 35 is correct that there will be a new wave of Ukrainians headed West. Except it has been a while since there were as many as 20 million persons resident in rump Ukraine.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 10 2022 12:03 utc | 42

Meanwhile, the Ukr Air-Defence has joined in the pounding of Kiev 😎

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/10267

Unbelievable.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2022 12:04 utc | 43

Russia also has plenty of hypersonic missiles to deliver plenty to nuclear armed missiles that will destroy Babylon USA in one hour: To be launched as soon as the bear has 3 ribs in its mouth between its teeth (Daniel 7:5).

Posted by: young | Oct 10 2022 12:04 utc | 44

Tom UK

Your disintelligence service told us Russian precision missiles were 90% depleted 10 days into the war LMAO! But I will never stand between a man and his necessary dose of copium.

Posted by: Pobeda | Oct 10 2022 12:05 utc | 45

This missile strike is in retaliation for the Kerch bridge attack. I would question the military wisdom of retaliation that includes parks and people waiting at bus stops.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 11:24 utc | 30

I agree. And yet Ukraine has been doing it for years in Donetsk. How do you explain it. I think Ukraine wants all the Soviet territories but not the people.

Posted by: RB | Oct 10 2022 12:05 utc | 46

Russia has the most advanced industrial munitions production capability on the earth and 300 years worth of gas and oil to power it. Mainland USA cant even muster together 10 dedicated munitions factories. Even in a full total conventional war with NATO, Russia will be firing cruise missiles at will long after NATO has resorted to sling shots.

Posted by: TGL | Oct 10 2022 12:06 utc | 47

Posted by: Putin Plan Trust0r | Oct 10 2022 10:43 utc | 11
Ukro-shills are awfully quiet this morning. What's the narrative gonna be?

1. Claim that Ukraine is "stronger than ever", "fully united", "we have the Russians right where we want them."
2. Russian propaganda claims that missiles are falling, but those were just trucks backfiring.
3. We will root out the traitors in Kyiv, Lvov, Odessa,.....
4. This is all "fake news".
5. 'Tis just a flesh wound.
6. It's time to fire some generals.
7. We demand membership in the European Union.
8. We demand membership in NATO.
9. Half of Europe are Putin-lovers, and those people need to be exterminated.
10. This is all part of a "secret plan" that you're not smart enough to understand.
11. Putin is dying of cancer and these attacks are the death-spasms of a failing regime.
12. Wait until you see the next attack against the Untermenschen. Tea and biscuits in Moscow by November!
13. If NATO doesn't give us what we want? Well, you'll see.
14. We will remember all of the wrongs done against us, forever. We have a long list.

Posted by: Ursula Zandt | Oct 10 2022 12:20 utc | 48

There are reports of power failures in Sweden and Denmark
What is the rest of the day going to bring?

https://t.me/battleinsights/6024

Posted by: jpc | Oct 10 2022 12:27 utc | 49

It certainly was inadvisable and crude for the Ukrainian Post Office to have released such a stamp so soon after the attack on the Crimea Bridge. Such a stupid act left no doubt in Moscow as to who the likely perpetrators behind the attack were. Moscow may well have other plans to strike those who likely collaborated with the Ukrainians on attacking the bridge.>/BLOCKQUOTE>

The picture is literally a stock photo of the bridge put through an image editing software 'painting' filter with an explosion photo-shopped onto it crudely (You can see it's the same explosion used twice just flipped and resized) so I don't know if they did actually have prior knowledge. The only limiting factor would be printing it out which I can't imagine takes very long if they have the ability to do it inhouse.

It certainly isn't evidence itself to me that anyone at the Ukrainian post office had prior knowledge or that the Ukrainians did it. They probably did but that stamp 'illustration' isn't it. That was done hastily by somebody without prior knowledge.

What's troubling to me is we don't know for certain that the Americans didn't do it and let everyone presume the Ukrainians did it. Just like with the NS2 bombings, was it the Poles on their own? Was it the Americans? Was the Americans working with the Poles?

The dangerous new situation of uncertainty of how far the US has or will go is really terrifying.

Posted by: Altai | Oct 10 2022 12:28 utc | 50

@46 RB

Are you saying shelling and attacks were all in one direction? Violations of ceasefires on both sides were commonplace.

Ukraine wants what it believes is its territory and it will continue to fight to regain it, and Russia will continue to fight to keep it. This active conflict has been going on since 2014 and it will continue for just as long.

The only option Russia has to end the conflict is to end Ukraine which was the intent of the SMO - ie regime change in Kiev. Once it failed to do that, Russia signed up for a long and bloody war.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 12:28 utc | 51

@ Tom UK

Your point about missiles is true, which is why Russia would have stockpiled in advance, ramped up production and rationed use by using more plentiful artillery giving them options like this at will.

As for Iranian drones so what? Iran has an excellent drone industry that they've worked hard to build up. Why should Russia refrain from buying armaments from friendly states when they prove useful? The UK imports a lot of arms despite being a notable producer.

The Ukrainian infrastructure cant be so easily replaced, and was in horrible shape to start with.

The NATO countries were already giving Ukraine open-ended support ''calls by Western audiences'' to aid Ukraine will be treated with the same irrelevance as calls to end austerity/the rigged socioeconomic system by the powers that be.

As for Ukraineian forces at the front, they've been losing manpower at a horrifically lop-sided casualty ratio, now their logistics are getting buggered worse than ever. That'll cause movement I expect.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 10 2022 12:28 utc | 52

Sure sounds like the official start of the Ukrainian winter started today!! Most Americans and Brits have no idea how cold a winter is in Ukraine and how you can freeze to death in your bed covered in blankets.

Now the Ukies have no power for heat. Hopefully they will ow burn Zelensky for fuel.The reality of war started today. Cold , dark, and hungry!

GOOD!!

Posted by: Brett Redmayne-Title | Oct 10 2022 12:28 utc | 53

Posted by: jpc | Oct 10 2022 12:27 utc | 49

There is a report Lvov started sucking electricity from Poland, which of course will cascade further on. EU states can't afford this and will suffer consequences in their own local grids. It's all going downhill, for the EU.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2022 12:31 utc | 54

God Bless You Russia. Go Go Go! Methinks regime change will be in Ukraine very soon not Russia.

The coke addicted clown has lost it. I was listening to a radio interviewan with Col. Douglas McGregor (Martuanov's blog) yesterday. The good Col knows the truth and tells it. I'm response to one question he said "....leaving aside the fact that Zelensky is completely deranged.....". Oh so true!

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Oct 10 2022 12:31 utc | 55

Will the Ukrainian Post now issue a new stamp with a huge, Russian-coloured dildo flying towards Zelensky’s office?

Posted by: Alexander P | Oct 10 2022 12:31 utc | 56

@52 Urban Fox

Russia is rationing use of cruise missiles, yes, I agree. Is using them to blow up a park or bus stop an efficient use of a finite resource? No. It isn’t.

None of what happens today alters the front line situation. The attack on Kerch bridge was an attempt to alter the front line situation, and that is the difference in approach.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 12:35 utc | 57

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2022 12:31 utc | 54

I've seen reports that Poland has shut the connect. We'll have to see, but as I said in the last open thread, this means that Ukraine is either now a chronic energy importer, or major industries will have to shut. One more strike like this and it will likely not be possible to stabilize the grid any more. Finally, two of the plants hit were CHPPs--e.g. responsible for a lot of domestic heating. That may be awkward as temperatures drop.

Posted by: dask | Oct 10 2022 12:38 utc | 58

Good, about time. Payback time.

Posted by: Viktor K | Oct 10 2022 12:38 utc | 59


The beginning of gift month for the US election?

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 10 2022 12:39 utc | 60

Here’s another angle of the explosion near the Parkovy Bridge…Kiev glass bridge.
Bridge not impacted at all.
https://twitter.com/censor_net/status/1579372865484300288
Comment:
>The probable target was not the bridge itself, but the building of the European Union advisory assistance located nearby.
Notice the bridge appears undamaged, but a building below is destroyed.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 10 2022 12:42 utc | 61

Tom UK

"and that is the difference in approach." You do realize energy is essential for militar logistics, right? LMAO! You are a complete moron.

Posted by: Pobeda | Oct 10 2022 12:48 utc | 62

AFP News Agency
@AFP
Twitter
“Russia's former president Dmitry Medvedev said Monday Russia's retaliatory mass strikes across Ukraine were only the "first episode".
"The first episode has been played. There will be others."

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 10 2022 12:52 utc | 63


There is a report Lvov started sucking electricity from Poland, which of course will cascade further on. EU states can't afford this and will suffer consequences in their own local grids. It's all going downhill, for the EU.

Posted by: unimperat
https://t.me/battleinsights/6069

It's looking a bit more than a cascade

Posted by: jpc | Oct 10 2022 12:54 utc | 64

Next salvo launched.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 10 2022 12:55 utc | 65

I think Ukraine wants all the Soviet territories but not the people.

Posted by: RB | Oct 10 2022 12:05 utc | 46

Looks like RF is thinking along the same lines. Make life so uncomfortable that most flee. (Though hard to leave without electricity to pump gasoline into their cars!)

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 10 2022 12:57 utc | 66

A bit of *perspective* for NATO


NATO launched more than 10,000 air raids on Libya in 2011 with over 500,000 Civilian Casualities. When they were questioned about civilian Casualities they insisted that it was collateral damages and that it happens in wars.

https://twitter.com/Africa_Archives/status/1579422285756522496

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 10 2022 13:00 utc | 67

More than 2300 waiting for The Duran livestream.
Mike @ iearlgrey had 5k on his stream earlier…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 10 2022 13:02 utc | 68

Russia is rationing use of cruise missiles, yes, I agree. Is using them to blow up a park or bus stop an efficient use of a finite resource? No. It isn’t.

None of what happens today alters the front line situation. The attack on Kerch bridge was an attempt to alter the front line situation, and that is the difference in approach.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 12:35 utc | 57

That crater you see in the park in Kiev is most likely an S-300 or some other missile that the air defense launched but failed to hit its target and then it fell down on the city.

It's too small for the kinds of missiles Russia launched.

The one hitting the pedestrian bridge looks like an air defense missile too (it was captured on video and it is too small and skinny to be a long-range cruise missile; it might be a Tornado-S 9M544 launched from Belarus, but then there would have been another 11 of those falling down somewhere, and we didn't see that).

It is not the first time, one of the very first "atrocities" the Russians committed was "targeting" a high-rise in Kiev in the first days of the war. But in fact that was an errant AD missile too, not a Russian strike.

In fact today there was an actual video of a failed AD launch arching back down and falling somewhere in the city.

And you are extremely wrong about the impact of this on the front line -- half of Ukraine is de-energized, and as a whole the country is now on the edge of complete gird collapse. Once the 750 kV transformers are taken out, and they only hit the 330 kV ones so far, it will be a permanent blackout. Once the trains stop, the ability of VSU to move troops around will be greatly hampered.

Also, if this is not a one-off, then we may eventually get a Kinzhal strike on whatever bunkers the leadership is in right now. And the will definitely have an impact.

Posted by: Tbx | Oct 10 2022 13:09 utc | 69

CM of Berlin | Oct 10 2022 16:41 utc | 58

'Russia is running out of hypersonic missiles.' Quite the headline when NATO doesn't have ANY.

Posted by: Mike R | Oct 10 2022 13:12 utc | 70

I thought this was funny:

UKRAINIAN NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER: “WHAT WE NEED TODAY IS WEAPONS”

Posted by: ZX | Oct 10 2022 13:30 utc | 71

None of what happens today alters the front line situation. The attack on Kerch bridge was an attempt to alter the front line situation, and that is the difference in approach.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 12:35 utc | 57

That's not how NATO sees it. US and NATO doctrine is to destroy civilian infrastructure like power and water immediately because it has the potential to support war making capability. You do remember Iraq '03, right? What you're upset about is another nation fighting a war the way your nation fights wars. You don't think it's fair or smart, but that's only because someone else is doing it. These are the consequences of the precedents your nation set when it thought that no other country would ever have the power of temerity to behave the way it does. Same as flaunting the spirit and the letter of the UN code. BTW, I'm really enjoying you these days, it's like a neat little encapsulation of the liberal world order when you comment. I still think your nation (and mine) should experience what we've subjected the world to for the last 30 years.

Posted by: Lex | Oct 10 2022 13:30 utc | 72

Posted by: jpc | Oct 10 2022 12:27 utc | 49

I’d bet that the power outage on Bornholm, if it is an act of sabotage, is a NATO false flag to be pinned on Russia.

Posted by: Thirdtwin | Oct 10 2022 13:32 utc | 73

@Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 11:24 utc | 30

“ To point out the obvious. Russia does not have an unlimited supply of cruise missiles, nor does it have an infinite capacity to produce them.”

I agree with you, which if one does the math, one will realize that this will lead all of us to tears.

You folks in Western intelligence need to do the math and realize you are not fighting Russia, alone. Given the amount of fire power so far yielded by Russia so far, you must realize this has already escalated to WWIII, where it’s most likely that the Chinese manufacturing capabilities are producing the precursors to Russian armaments.

There is no definitive way to confirm this, but the Russians are not stupid enough to take on the entire western manufacturing base without aid.

No one can win this global Armageddon and it would be wise to find a diplomatic solution before we are all subject to either nuclear winter or massive suicide.

Perhaps a few oligarchs can survive awhile in New Zealand, but their caretakers will inevitably render them, literally.

Furthermore, if we have a prayer in saving “civilization” from the unfolding climate catastrophe, unless one believes a nuclear winter is the solution, we will need all of the cooperation an resources of world powers to survive.

Posted by: Michael.j | Oct 10 2022 13:33 utc | 74

Has President Selenaky repeated his earlier advice to be careful when smoking, and to away from military and government buildings?
Or does that only apply to "terrorist accidents" on Russian territory?

Posted by: Marvin | Oct 10 2022 13:34 utc | 75

There is nothing valuable in Ukraine that's not been built by the Soviet Union, that is, built by the Soviet people. All roads, bridges, the majority of the buildings, parks, metro lines, tunnels, bridges, TPPs, NPPs, sports stadiums etc were built by the Soviet people, generally called as Russians in the so-called west. As an ethnicity, Ukrainians are a minority in the country stolen from the Soviet Union in 1991, could be not more than 5 million. The Ukraine is, after all, is the borderland.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 10 2022 13:36 utc | 76

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 10 2022 11:29 utc | 33
You are right my friend. Electricity runs the world...
Also to beat a dead horse, Winter is coming. With the growing season over, the availability of food will be a problem for most. The Eastern European nations rely heavily on the small/mid size farmer/gardener to help support the food supplied.
Come Winter..."The story will be".. media showing the world, the plight of "the refugee" leaving Ukraine.

Posted by: Heavymetal101 | Oct 10 2022 13:36 utc | 77

A little early to make claims about full or empty stock. If it's true "Russia had launched 75 missiles at Ukraine but that 41" have been intercepted, it's hard to say if this means Russia has a full stock or even a half full one. Based on that statement half of the missile seems to have not been able to outsmart Ukrainian air defenses. Which mean Russia has not even started to fully target air defense yet in Ukraine. Which would be the first thing one does when sufficient modernized cruise missiles are in stock. Without air defense, the older stockpile is way more effective to use. So lets see ... there are Ukrainian claims Russian missiles are not that precise and reliable for pin-point strikes. On paper more than reality. But I don't know. Maybe. Would explain something at least!

Posted by: John Dowser | Oct 10 2022 13:36 utc | 78

Power blackouts this winter are "extremely unlikely" this winter, Cabinet Office Minister Nadhim Zahawi has told Sky News.

Which actually means that there will be power cuts in the UK. Good for the bandit land.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 10 2022 13:38 utc | 79

One must ask the question: for what stated purpose does the collective west continue to support the efforts of Ukraine much to their own demise? There are unseen and unspoken issues at play in this conflict including racism, ethnic hatred, shared histories, outside interference, and on and on.

Reading what folks fed main steam western narrative have to say about things I can only recall the labels used by such keen foreign policy observers as Justin Raimondo (RIP) "Bizzaro World" and the folks at the Duran "Clown World" in an effort to describe rationally U.S. efforts to police the world.

For Ukraine, it seems control of the narrative is more important than the outcome of the fighting. Unfortunately, this narrative is now being swallowed up and drowned out by the cries of the masses as the real economic consequences of the EU's turn away from Russia comes into play.

The collective west is not done pushing back. Not yet at least. The question now becomes, what will it take for the collective west to see the futility of trying to encroach on Russian borders militarily?

One other thing is this: perhaps western living standards are not sustainable if that living standard depends on the continued exploitation of resources from nations that are not a part of the collective west. These so-called under-developed countries are finding other outlets and markets for their commodities outside of the collective west.

In other words: it is time for the collective west to realize it must share these resources with the rest of the world. The folks behind the scenes are having a hard time coming to grips with this new reality. Time to wake up before it's too late you bunch of dumb shits. Just saying.

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Oct 10 2022 13:38 utc | 80

Ukraine supporters already forgot their 8 years of genocide that started this war, so how can they possibly remember the CIA terrorist explosion on the Crimea bridge this weekend?

When will the collective hatred of the Soviets in Eastern Europe because of collectivisation transform itself into collective hatred of USUKIS because of privatisation?

Marx and Zelensky, two sides of the same Obsession about how to illegally acquire land.

Kadirov has recognised the legitimacy of Russia defending itself against Western proxy jihadists in Chechnya. The same logic legitimises Russia defending itself against Western proxy Zionists in Ukraine.

Kadirov has the entire thinking Muslim world on his side .

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 10 2022 13:45 utc | 81

The vitriol that the UK/Western MSM has been spewing out over the past few days over the attack on the Kerch Bridge has suddenly been replaced by the very serious, shocked voices talking about 8 people killed in the 'revenge' missile attacks. Hardly anything about the NATO, EU, and Ukrainian control centres being demolished with their henchmen inside, hardly a word over the taking out of the electricity and power stations, and no mention whatsoever over the imminent fall of Bakhmut. Two days ago Zelensky and his ilk were loudly bragging and braying about their attack on the bridge, laughing and jacking off over their own propaganda, today they're all cowering in bomb shelters, shitting their pants.

Posted by: MadDog | Oct 10 2022 13:47 utc | 82

”Communism is Soviet power plus electrification” - V.I. Lenin

Russia is just helping the Ukrotards eliminate the legacy of Communism from the Ukraine.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2022 13:52 utc | 83

@74 Michael.j

There is no definitive way to confirm this, but the Russians are not stupid enough to take on the entire western manufacturing base without aid.

Russia did not imagine it would be taking on the entire western manufacturing base. The intent was to advance quickly, reach Kiev, topple the regime and put a friendly administration in place. This would be done before the West could react. If Russia had succeeded in this aim, there would be no Ukrainian regime or army to supply with weapons. The current situation where Russia is up against the Western manufacturing base is down to its failure to achieve its initial objectives.

Russia has been supplied with Iranian drones, but outside of that I see little evidence of substantial aid from China. This is not to say it isn’t happening, I have no idea either way, but it is clear that China is not keen on falling foul of Western sanctions given its economy has its own struggles. China’s support has been idealogical and largely consisted of warm words and buying Russian resources on the cheap.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 13:55 utc | 84

One wonders - why did they still have an electricity system?

Posted by: Donno Trunk | Oct 10 2022 13:59 utc | 85

It is 9AM Monday on the East Coast. The trolls should be at their desks now. Morning meeting over, a few cups of coffee in their guts. Here we go. Hope they had a good nights rest

Posted by: circumspect | Oct 10 2022 14:00 utc | 86

Russia needs to destroy, and not merely damage, Ukraine's power grid.

Posted by: theomimesis | Oct 10 2022 14:01 utc | 87

🇷🇺 Deputy Prime Minister Khusnullin said that damage to the pillars on the Crimean bridge would be repaired by the end of the week.

The delivery of the necessary equipment for the upcoming repair of two bridge spans of the automobile part of the Crimean Bridge has already begun. The schedule for the dismantling of the damaged spans will be presented in the next three days.

In general, the system has already entered the mode of eliminating the consequences of the terrorist attack, and there is no particular doubt that they will try to eliminate the consequences of the terrorist attack as soon as possible.

It is also worth noting that trucks are not allowed to cross the Crimean bridge. There will be ferries. Car traffic continues. There is no excitement associated with gasoline in the Crimea.


https://t.me/intelslava/38858

Posted by: Down South | Oct 10 2022 14:04 utc | 88

Tom in UK dislikes being reminded that in the conspiracies to wage aggressive war on Iraq & Lybia that Tony Bliar & Davey Cameron participated in expended vastly more missiles & bombs than the Russians have, and with vastly less justification.

Posted by: rkka | Oct 10 2022 14:06 utc | 89

There is nothing valuable in Ukraine that's not been built by the Soviet Union, that is, built by the Soviet people. All roads, bridges, the majority of the buildings, parks, metro lines, tunnels, bridges, TPPs, NPPs, sports stadiums etc were built by the Soviet people, generally called as Russians in the so-called west. As an ethnicity, Ukrainians are a minority in the country stolen from the Soviet Union in 1991, could be not more than 5 million. The Ukraine is, after all, is the borderland.

Posted by: Paulg | Oct 10 2022 13:36 utc | 76

USSR was actually run by Ukrainians. Russians were not deemed smart enough to rise to the level of Stalin, Khrushchev, and Brezhnev, by unanimous decision of the Communist Party. The one time they let Russians run USSR, the Gorby-Yeltsin Russian team fucked the whole thing up.

Maybe this is Russian revenge for USSR? Payback for years of being leaders of USSR? Kinda petty.

Posted by: dontbepetty | Oct 10 2022 14:12 utc | 90


There should be some interesting upcoming contrast in how long it takes the Russians to say "fix a bridge" and how long it takes the Ukies to do the same

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Oct 10 2022 14:13 utc | 91

Posted by: marko | Oct 10 2022 10:56 utc | 17

The West would wage nuclear war.

The elites of the west are too decadent and corrupt to wage nuclear war. You think the Hunter Bidens of the world are willing to give up their swimming pools of cocaine and mansions filled with hookers?

They know that a nuclear war will end all their wealth, their stocks, their privileges, their control over hordes of compliant corporate slaves.

They would have by now realized that it's not possible to simply flee to their luxurious underground bunkers in New Zealand:

Sooner or later the starving, feral survivors will dig them out of their holes and feed them to their children if necessary.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 10 2022 14:13 utc | 92

Why do the Ukrainians keep on bombing themselves? Those missiles can not be coming from Russia since they are out of ammo. Stop hitting yourself Ukraine!

Posted by: Ivan | Oct 10 2022 14:14 utc | 93

All this will end if the parties - all parties - sit down and talk. There are opportunities for everyone to get what they want.

Its not that hard.

But the West doesnt want to negotiate with Russia, instead they double down. “We wont be intimidated by sensless violence” they shout. Yet they could have ended this way before the violence started. They chose not to because they thought they are the supreme, the alpha and omega, the chosen ones with whom none negotiaties but they must kneel instead.

A place was not given to Russia at the table. This is all a consequence of that.

In the West we must stop wars of supremacist and crusading origin. We had a healthy anti-War movement. But no, Americans elected the violence-in-chief leader Bush twice! Then they tried with a black president that talked smoothly but turned out worse. Then they tried in vain to elect an outsider that held some promise but failed. Now they elected the eco-radical and technocrats. When will it stop?

There will be no peace until the American public stops their insane choices for leaders and takes the rest of the world seriously.

Posted by: alek_a | Oct 10 2022 14:15 utc | 94

Ukraine, Yemen, Palestine, Tibet, the Kurds, the Uighurs, Iraq, Syria, the list goes on.
Please don't forget the people whose homes and people who they love are being killed and destroyed because a few miserable, twisted little men can't just sit down and break bread together like human beings, like brothers.
There is an element of war porn on here. Pray to whoever you pray to that your loved ones are sleeping safe tonight, that it isn't you getting that knock on the door because you honked your horn in support of a protester.

Posted by: Benn | Oct 10 2022 14:16 utc | 95

So the SMO (slow motion operation?) was partially designed to expose the ''rust''? It has been exposed now and will be corrected...

Geopolitics and diplomacy will have had their part to play. Potential allies will have not much doubt left over.

So the policy and strategy will have had some major corrections, and now General Surovkin has been appointed supreme commander to make it work! Surovkin (Southern Viking? Linguistically probably all wrong!, but still!) :El general: Vikingo del Sur!!!

Posted by: Rootman | Oct 10 2022 14:16 utc | 96

According to the Western propaganda media, Germany is to send its best air defence systems to Ukraine, France will also send air defence systems to Ukraine.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 10 2022 14:17 utc | 97

Posted by: Ursula Zandt | Oct 10 2022 12:20 utc | 48

15. General Surovikhin is clearly suffering from heart disease and type 2 diabetes. He has been hospitalised.

(Kiev creates a postage stamp of Surovikhin on a dialysis machine)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 10 2022 14:18 utc | 98

There’s some confusion about the nordic cables:

The cable to Bornholm is danish. It’s now up and running again.

The cable between Sweden and Poland was already stopped for maintenance. It was supposed to go online last night, but couldn’t because of low oil levels in a transformer on our (swe) side. It will be up and running tonight.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Oct 10 2022 14:18 utc | 99

Russia is rationing use of cruise missiles, yes, I agree. Is using them to blow up a park or bus stop an efficient use of a finite resource? No. It isn’t.

Posted by: Tom UK | Oct 10 2022 12:35 utc | 57

And yet Ukraine is using HIMARS to attack bus stops in Donetsk. You are right that Russia doesn’t do it.

Posted by: RB | Oct 10 2022 14:20 utc | 100

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