Media Hide Fascist Ideology Of Ukrainian Militia Which Visit Congress
'Western' media continue to denazify Ukraine by pretending that the Nazi formations in that country, which they had long decried, are now a harmless collection of celebrities.
One could follow those changes along various pieces in the New York Times:
On his flak jacket was a symbol commonly used by the Azov Battalion, a Ukrainian neo-Nazi paramilitary organization.
Defenders of the Ukrainian Azov Battalion, which the F.B.I. calls “a paramilitary unit” notorious for its “association with neo-Nazi ideology,” accuse us of being part of a Kremlin campaign to “demonize” the group.
Facebook last week said it was making an exception to its anti-extremism policies to allow praise for Ukraine’s far-right Azov Battalion military unit, “strictly in the context of defending Ukraine, or in their role as part of the Ukraine National Guard.”
These scenes are from videos shared online in recent days by the Azov regiment, a unit in the Ukrainian military, which says they were taken in the mazelike bunkers beneath the sprawling Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol, Ukraine.
As I had written previously:
What was once "a Ukrainian neo-Nazi paramilitary organization" which even the FBI said is notorious for its “association with neo-Nazi ideology” was first relabeled as merely "far right" before it became a normal "unit in the Ukrainian military".
Today the New York Times topped that evolution by turning a Ukrainian government press release into a tear dripping story about the reunion of freed Azov losers with their families:
Released Azov commanders have an emotional reunion with family members in Turkey.
Commanders of Ukraine’s celebrated Azov Battalion have held an emotional reunion with their families in Turkey, Ukrainian officials said, honoring the fighters released from Russian confinement last month as part of the largest prisoner swap since the start of the war.Among the 215 Ukrainian prisoners of war released in the exchange were 108 members of the Azov Battalion. The group’s defense of the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol — the southern port city decimated by Russian forces in the first months of the war — has become a powerful symbol of the suffering inflicted by Russia and the resistance mounted by Ukraine.
Under the terms of the swap, the commanders of the battalion must remain in Turkey — which brokered the exchange — until the war ends. After months of waiting, they were reunited with family members on Monday, according to a statement from the office of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine and photographs distributed by the Ukrainian Presidential Press Service.
“There are many emotions,” Ukraine’s first lady, Olena Zelenska, who attended the meeting, said in a post on Telegram. “The road to this moment was long and difficult. Finally they were able to hug.”
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Ms. Zelenska said she gave the Azov Battalion members “thanks from Ukraine, from the president and all the people for whom they are fighting.”
How can anyone working at the New York Times not be ashamed of this whitewash of a deeply fascists organization.
The NYT is far from the only 'western' media doing this. I was easy to find some 40 stories in main stream media which between 2014 and April 2022 which critically discussed the 'controversial' Nazi ideology of Azov and other Ukrainian militia. Then the coverage abruptly changed turning those fascist groups into harmless patriots.
Others have done similar analyses:
In order to get a better sense of how Canadian media’s approach to reporting on the Azov Regiment (formerly the Azov Battalion) has changed over the years, we searched for every mention of the group in the archives of the Toronto Star, Globe and Mail, and National Post. We also searched through the CBC News website, as well as some of their broadcasts. All of the 90 unique mentions we found (as of August 10) were compiled, with the description of Azov provided in said article or broadcast being noted for comparison.We found that these news outlets (and the wire services much of their coverage relied upon) went from directly acknowledging Azov’s neo-Nazi ideology to suggesting that the group is merely “controversial” or has a “checkered past.” Some reports included no qualifiers at all, and simply presented the group as just another Ukrainian military unit fighting against Russia.
It is not just the media but also politicians who have done a U-turn from condemning Azov and other Nazi groups to welcoming them as guests in Washington DC.
On March 27 2018 The Hill reported:
Congress bans arms to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis
A little-noticed provision in the 2,232-page government spending bill passed last week bans U.S. arms from going to a controversial ultranationalist militia in Ukraine that has openly accepted neo-Nazis into its ranks.House-passed spending bills for the past three years have included a ban on U.S. aid to Ukraine from going to the Azov Battalion, but the provision was stripped out before final passage each year.
This year, though, the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill signed into law last week stipulates that “none of the funds made available by this act may be used to provide arms, training or other assistance to the Azov Battalion.”
“White supremacy and neo-Nazism are unacceptable and have no place in our world,” Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), an outspoken critic of providing lethal aid to Ukraine, said in a statement to The Hill on Tuesday. “I am very pleased that the recently passed omnibus prevents the U.S. from providing arms and training assistance to the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion fighting in Ukraine.”
A year later that language was again stripped from the omnibus spending bill.
Three years on and the very same Nazis are greeted by prominent members of Congress:
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California Democrat Rep. Adam Schiff, who pushed the Trump-Russia hoax as hard as anyone, invited neo-Nazis serving in Ukraine’s Azov Battalion to the U.S. Capitol and met with them on Monday.“The American Left is openly aligning itself with Nazis while painting its domestic political opposition as Nazis who present a danger to democracy,” Sean Adl-Tabatabai noted in a Sept. 27 News Punch analysis.
How quickly they seem to forget.
Just three years ago, 40 U.S. senators signed a letter demanding that the Azov Battalion be added to a list of terrorist organizations.
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When it was reported that the Azov Battalion was in the thick of the fight against Russia’s invasion this year, however, Democrats and their legacy media allies treated them more as heroes than terrorists, critics say.
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During their visit, the Ukrainian soldiers reportedly thanked the U.S. Congress for the billions in aid it has approved thus far … and then asked for more.
There is whole series of pictures of Democrat congressmen and senators meeting such groups posted by Daria Kaleniuk, the assistant director of a Ukrainian activist group called Anti-Corruption Action Centre. The Anti Corruption Action Center is a U.S. government financed non-government organization in Kiev. Together with Ukraine's controversial National Anti-corruption Bureau it is a political enforcer which accuses anyone in Ukraine of 'corruption' as soon as they divert from the U.S. dictated line. Back in July it even took on Zelenski:
[M]any political experts and anti-corruption activists viewed the removal of Ivan Bakanov, head of Ukraine’s state intelligence service, the SBU, and Iryna Venediktova, the country’s prosecutor general, by presidential decree as Zelenskyy taking advantage of extraordinary wartime authority to consolidate his own power.“It’s not a move to do the right thing. It’s a move to gain more control over our top law enforcement bodies,” Tetiana Shevchuk, a lawyer and activist at the Kyiv-based Anti-Corruption Action Center, said in an interview.
The U.S. financed Anti-Corruption Action Center is now promoting the visits of fascists to the center of U.S. power. Democrats are welcoming them. Their hate of anything Russia allows them to ally with even the worst people one can think of while main stream media provide cover for those people's hateful ideology.
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BBC's Jeremy Bowen, pretends to be on the frontline, whilst a woman looks on, seemingly bemused.
https://twitter.com/MarkJamesonArt/status/1577352018041135106
Posted by: Down South | Oct 5 2022 9:09 utc | 2
They're as naked as can be to anyone paying any minimal level of actual attention.
This becomes an argument concerning how few in the west read or listen to the propaganda as anything of significance. Instead the attention demonstrably only consists of superficially parroting talking points for social interaction and in-group signalling, it does not count as a positive and is not representative of any level of conviction or belief. Nothing but humans as simians doing "monkey see, monkey do" and following ever-changing decrees of today's "everyone's favorite color".
It isn't saving the system or winning the war or anything at all and it can't ever be.
Will there now be a slew of overtly self-identifying trolls and bots denying the undeniable on this topic just as they attempt to do on all others? Let's see how broken they are.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 5 2022 9:14 utc | 3
A truly sickening turnabout, this Azov-adulation. As Bob Dylan might opine, now even Nazis "have God on their side".
Posted by: JMF | Oct 5 2022 9:23 utc | 4
Who can forget this moment of zen?
https://twitter.com/kurtmetzger/status/1565398944854593537
Prior to the war hyping up the Azov battalion served Western media's narrative of dangerous neo-Nazis being everywhere and the general demand for stories of racism from Western audiences.
After the war things changed.
Posted by: Altai | Oct 5 2022 9:35 utc | 5
They don't care
Because their readers will lap up any shit they print
Posted by: jpc | Oct 5 2022 9:36 utc | 6
From ZUERST! Deutsches Nachtrichtenmagazin, October 5, 2022
This is how European industry is dying: Swedish steel mills are struggling to surviveStockholm. Not only the German steel industry has its back against the wall because of the unaffordable energy costs. The Swedish steel mills are also struggling to survive, and just like in Germany, the first companies are already having to shut down.
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Up to now, Europe's advantage in international competition has been associated with comparatively cheap energy - a direct effect of cheap Russian gas supplies over the decades. But this advantage vanished into thin air at the latest when the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline was blown up. Not only in Sweden will many lights go out in the near future and many tapes will stand still. (mu)
Posted by: António Ferrão | Oct 5 2022 9:38 utc | 7
White Helmets and Black Stars are all the go in the UKUSA land of evil.
I guess hollywood will be holding gala balls and offering big movie contracts.
Sick.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 5 2022 9:40 utc | 8
"Commanders of Ukraine’s celebrated Azov Battalion have held an emotional reunion with their families in Turkey, Ukrainian officials said."
The only thing these cretins have an emotional relation with is a bullet!
Posted by: Jon L | Oct 5 2022 9:41 utc | 9
They have form supporting fascists
In late October 1922, Mussolini threatened to march on the Italian capital to take control of the government. Thousands descended on Rome on October 28 in a bid to persuade the King to hand over power.It was this march that the British government helped put together as it wanted Mussolini as leader, the authors of Nero di Londra have claimed. Mr Fasanella told The Times: “The British helped orchestrate the march and propel Mussolini to power because they wanted to make him the key figure in a government which would be useful to them.”
Sir Ronald Graham, then the British ambassador to Italy, liaised with leaders of the march in the days prior, UK National Archives documents show. The leaders gathered in a building owned by a half-English aristocrat, Romeo Adriano Gallenga Stuart, who the authors claim was a British intelligence informant.
Mr Cerenghino told The Times they believe Graham was giving the fascists useful advice as he was being “constantly” updated by the marchers as they descended on Rome. Not only this, but a senior British Conservative politician, Sir Samuel Hoare, claimed British money was used to “form the Fascist Party and to finance the march”, documents reveal.
Posted by: Down South | Oct 5 2022 9:47 utc | 10
The USA pretty well does what it wishes to do. It has the hegemony of the money with its world reserve currency of the United States Dollar (USD). With that wealth it think it can do whatever it wishes.
Yet, in all its pride Babylon USA has offended the 10 kings which are now planning for its destruction in one hour (Revelation 18).
Soon, the 10 kings will give the King of the North (Russia) the OK to "arise and devour much flesh" (Daniel 7:5). This will come after the Russian Bear has 3 ribs in its mouth between its teeth. These 3 ribs may be Crimea, Luhansk, and Donetsk. If so, 2 of the ribs are already in the mouth of the bear. Only the Donetsk rib remains.
Once Donetsk is taken, the USA will not have much time left, maybe only days. Get out of the USA while you still can. It does not have long to survive. Those caught up in the destruction will lose everything, including their lives. If you happen to survive the initial strike, get out of the USA anyway you can. Those who stay will be killed by the King of the North and those who follow its lead.
Posted by: young | Oct 5 2022 9:49 utc | 11
Upcoming: Azov Members visit Yad Vashem to remember Russias Crimes....
Posted by: NoOne | Oct 5 2022 10:00 utc | 12
you can't understand all of this as a result of propaganda and brainwashing...western population is not so stupid, trust me, but deep down they know one thing: their way of living and lifestyle is possible thanks to killing, stealing, and plundering of the rest of the world. they are willing collaborators to such politics. and they are angry at anyone who is endangered such state of affairs, and right now it is putin and russia.
Posted by: denazi | Oct 5 2022 10:11 utc | 13
I've posted this link on the open thread, but its pertinent here too. Commenter 'john' originally posted this link to an interview between interviewer Daniel Natal and author James P. Farrell, who propose that nazism was infiltrating american politics during ww 2. They even surmise the german nazis had the original constructs for the future e.u., before they'd been considered by the west.
'john's link once again, which is less than sixty minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsAfqxNKrA
Posted by: aye, myself & me | Oct 5 2022 10:11 utc | 14
From Babylon Bee Oct 4, 2022
Hurricane-Ravaged Florida Town Raises Ukraine Flag So Congress Will Send AidFT MYERS, FL — In a desperate attempt to get help for its citizens and deal with the growing humanitarian crisis in the area, a Florida town devastated by Hurricane Ian has taken the unusual step of raising the Ukrainian flag, hoping to convince Congress to send aid.
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"These requests coming in from Florida are small potatoes," Nancy Pelosi slurred at her meeting with the press when asked about providing hurricane relief. "Sending money to Florida would not save the world from Russia or effectively launder the taxpayer money in any way."
At publishing time, citizens of Ft. Myers were working on using fake Ukrainian accents and inviting Hollywood celebrities to visit their devastated towns, hoping to convince the ignorant actors that they were visiting war-torn Kyiv instead.
Posted by: António Ferrão | Oct 5 2022 10:18 utc | 15
From Babylon Bee Oct 4, 2022
Hurricane-Ravaged Florida Town Raises Ukraine Flag So Congress Will Send AidFT MYERS, FL — In a desperate attempt to get help for its citizens and deal with the growing humanitarian crisis in the area, a Florida town devastated by Hurricane Ian has taken the unusual step of raising the Ukrainian flag, hoping to convince Congress to send aid.
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"These requests coming in from Florida are small potatoes," Nancy Pelosi slurred at her meeting with the press when asked about providing hurricane relief. "Sending money to Florida would not save the world from Russia or effectively launder the taxpayer money in any way."
At publishing time, citizens of Ft. Myers were working on using fake Ukrainian accents and inviting Hollywood celebrities to visit their devastated towns, hoping to convince the ignorant actors that they were visiting war-torn Kyiv instead.
Posted by: António Ferrão | Oct 5 2022 10:18 utc | 16
When the Ministry of Truth says white is black the sheep all nod in unison. This was sadly evident with the assassination of Darya Dugina which was widely hailed in the collective west as a befitting end for someone who espoused a far-right fascist ideology.
Posted by: Jun | Oct 5 2022 10:20 utc | 17
This was also the case with Washington‘s War to Destroy Yugoslavia. The worst fascist extremists in Slovenia, Croatia, and Bosnia were feted, promoted, and lavishly funded.
It’s almost as if the Washington War Party wants to sow chaos. Hmm…
Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2022 10:28 utc | 18
Antonio Ferrao @ 15:
The citizens of Fort Myers could go one more step and claim that Hurricane Ian was the work of Lord Vlademort and any minute now he will send another hurricane down on them. Either that or they could secede from the US and apply to join Ukraine through holding ... a referendum. Will the Biden administration accept that?
Anyway, thanks for the laughs.
Posted by: Jen | Oct 5 2022 10:32 utc | 19
Antonio @7. This is interesting as one of Von de Looney's proposed new sanctions against Russia is a ban on steel imports.
This current crop of collective West Leaders are dangerous cretins who don't give a damn about their countries or their peoples just their own power and glorification.
Russia, China, Hungary and Serbia in the mean time have proper Leaders of their Government and put their peoples first.
I believe decency and good will prevail that is Russia over this true true evil the collective West has shown itself to be.
Posted by: Jo Dominich | Oct 5 2022 10:38 utc | 20
No surprises here then!
ISIL, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, Azov, all useful idiots and proxies of the largest terrorist organisation on the planet, the US Government. I can think of one other organisation more vile than the list above and that's US sponsored Mossad, who've had several more decades inflicting pain and suffering on Palestinians.
Hell, even the fascist British police force are trained in Israel, probably alongside most police/other special forces in EU countries. There's currently an investigation in Britain (don't hold your breath) as to Nazi infiltration across its armed forces.
When the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ hegemony sinks into oblivion so does the sponsored vermin with it.
Posted by: WTFUD | Oct 5 2022 10:52 utc | 21
What's even funnier is that the GOP has a longer, deeper history of collaborating with Nazis, but you dont need to look far (theres even a few in here stupid enough to believe it) to find people who will reflexively brand the republicans as anti-Nazi based on nothing more than the actions of these democrats.
Posted by: Tonplerch | Oct 5 2022 11:01 utc | 22
More Pepe Escobar laying down the truth about Ukraine
Short and to the point.
Educate yourself!
https://www.sott.net/article/472770-Escobar-Pipeline-Terror-is-the-9-11-of-the-Raging-Twenties
Posted by: osi | Oct 5 2022 11:01 utc | 23
Not so OT tweet:
Biden's Department of Homeland Security has appointed Nicholas Rasmussen as counterterrorism coordinator.He is the *29th consultant* from WestExec Advisors—the boutique firm co-founded by Secretary of State Tony Blinken in 2017—to snag a senior job in the Biden administration.
https://twitter.com/mideastXmidwest/status/1577374297445777442
Posted by: too scents | Oct 5 2022 11:09 utc | 25
Re: Posted by: António Ferrão | Oct 5 2022 10:18 utc | 16
It’s absolutely outrageous that residents of Florida have to stoop to this level in this day and age.
Nancy Palooza is certainly no leader.
Posted by: Julian | Oct 5 2022 11:12 utc | 26
Perhaps OT, but RT is reporting it.
"Putin signs unification treaties for new Russian regions
The move completes an accession process launched late last month"
https://www.rt.com/russia/564049-putin-donbass-unification-treaties/
RT time: "5 Oct, 2022 06:32"
Posted by: imo | Oct 5 2022 11:13 utc | 27
On March 27 2028 The Hill reported:
should be 2018
Congress bans arms to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis
BY REBECCA KHEEL - 03/27/18
Posted by: c | Oct 5 2022 11:16 utc | 28
A repost from RT: " In 1994, rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson declared that Jews should murder and enslave "goyim" in Ukraine and Russia. In 1997, the Kagans clan (plus Cheney team and Dobriansky of Banderite origin) published their bloody PNAC - Project of New American (Jewish) Century. In 2000, Zionist Wolfowitz, an architect of the genocidal war against Iraq, initiated the Nazification of Ukraine by legalizing special provisions for arming Ukrainian/Canadian Banderites. ... Carl Gershman (National Endowment for Democracy or the CIA-supported tool for regime changes around the globe) named Ukraine "the biggest prize" for Zionists.
In 2014, Nuland-Kagan came to Kiev to do a putsch in collaboration with self-proclaimed neoNazis (see Parubyj, Biletsky, et al.) [The putsch was followed by civil war]. Kolomojsky, the President of the Jewish community of Ukraine, formed four (4) Nazi battalions to protect his properties in Donbass. The Wall Street Journal published an adoring article about Kolomojsky and his Nazi thugs. Kolomojsky financed an election of a comedian and homoerotic dancer Zelensky. In 2021, Zelensky (who betrayed his electorate by refusing to implement Minsk I & II) began bloviating about getting a nuclear weapon for Ukraine. At that time, Ukraine was already infested with some 40 illegal bio-weaponry labs installed by the US [DAPRA]. Russia was forced to send her children to protect herself from the Zionist-Banderite tool of global Jewry. The Financial Squid has provided unlimited credit for Zelensky. Going back to 1994, "rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson declared that Jews must murder and enslave "goyim" in Ukraine and Russia." .... Mazel Tove, Banderites, you have sold Slavs to Jews.
Posted by: Cerena | Oct 5 2022 11:18 utc | 29
@13; Exactly right. A long time ago Communists understood this.
In 1928 Bertolt Brecht wrote "Wovon Lebt der Mensch"?
What keeps mankind alive?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR-qwE0VKtg
Translated:
What keeps mankind alive?
The fact that millions are daily tortured, stifled, punished, silenced, oppressed.
Mankind can keep alive thanks to its brilliance
in keeping its humanity repressed.
For once you must try not to shirk the facts:
Mankind is kept alive by bestial acts!
You lot who bank on your desires and our disgust
Should learn for once the way the world is run:
Whatever lies you tell, however much you twist,
food is the first thing, morals follow on.
So first make sure that those who are now starving
get proper helpings when we all start carving!
Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 5 2022 11:20 utc | 31
Posted by: Jen | Oct 5 2022 10:32 utc
Or they could secede from the U.S. and apply to join Ukraine by ... holding a referendum.
The question should be would the government in Russia accept that ?
My suggestion for the people of Fort Myers: send a letter to Nancy Pelosi with accusations from the Ukrainian War Ministry that the Russian military forces are using a weapon system called "Skiron", named after the god of the north-west wind in Greek mythology.
So simply put : "we are the victims here after all and PUTIN WAS IT !"
Putin could send another hurricane over there at any moment if Pelosi doesn't help . That should soften Pelosi's heart and strengthen her cash flow.
Posted by: theresamarquesa | Oct 5 2022 11:23 utc | 32
These Azov fighters are obviously NOT Nazis or even “Neo-Nazis” - how can you tell they aren’t?
Does anyone here seriously think Russia would release Nazis from captivity - FOR ANY REASON?!?!?!?
JFC. Of course they wouldn’t!
Russia entered Ukraine as part of their “de-nazification” of Ukraine!! They are not going to capture surrendering Nazis and then turn around and release them!!
That is an insane “cope” right there.
Fancy that - Russia releasing Nazis in “prisoner swaps “!!! - when one of the key motivations for the War on the first place is “De-Nazification”!!!
Posted by: Julian | Oct 5 2022 11:25 utc | 33
Zelensky is Jewish.
Those who do not 100% back Zelensky and buy him cocaine are anti-semites.
The only people who do not support Ukraine are anti-semites.
No discussion allowed. Speak and ADL will be after you.
Zelensky is a celebrity. Celebrities are way more important than politics. We understand the world through the celebrities we identify with. We all identify as philosemitic. Doing otherwise is social suicide.
The best you could hope for if you do not wave the blue and yellow banner is to be regarded as a strange old crank.
Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 5 2022 11:27 utc | 34
The US has a history of supporting extremists all over the world as long as
it suits they goals and objectives.
The US (and its "allies") will therefore support anybody: enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Let's not pretend that any government here is different.
But complicity of western media and quasi-government organization is a different story.
It demonstrates something much troublesome: these organizations are really just mouthpieces
of governments or political parties.
Posted by: Ivan | Oct 5 2022 11:30 utc | 35
Surviving Azov personnel will eventually all be flown to the USA, Operation Paperclip-style, to show the local militias how it should be done, Stasi/Gestapo-style.
Posted by: quasi_verbatim | Oct 5 2022 11:31 utc | 36
Too late now to claim any high ground over this. Now that Putin has in effect set the Azovstal captives free, this ship has sailed--and denatsifikatsiya as a goal has been quietly abandoned. In retrospect, why all the fuss to capture these specimens alive.
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Oct 5 2022 11:33 utc | 37
Too late now to claim any high ground over this. Now that Putin has in effect set the Azovstal captives free, this ship has sailed--and denatsifikatsiya as a goal has been quietly abandoned. In retrospect, why all the fuss to capture these specimens alive.
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Oct 5 2022 11:34 utc | 38
Surviving Azov personnel will eventually all be flown to the USA, Operation Paperclip-style, to show the local militias how it should be done, Stasi/Gestapo-style.
Posted by: quasi_verbatim | Oct 5 2022 11:31 utc | 36
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The East German Stasi was really bad (as is the case with any secret police), but one cannot equate them with the primitive thugs of the Gestapo. The Stasi was a bunch of humanitarian-minded choirboys compared to the Gestapo. And the Gestapo was a bunch of choirboys compared to the CIA.
For comparison, the CIA has so far killed almost twice as many people as the Nazis during their reign of terror in all their concentration camps.
Posted by: Nobody | Oct 5 2022 12:32 utc | 39
Here we go again; just like in Syria where the US classified terrorists as "moderate rebels". Doubt that the US can pull off the same stunt again successfully.
Posted by: John Mason | Oct 5 2022 12:41 utc | 40
Moon of Alabama has disappeared from Google's search results. Until this day, the site was in first place for the query "Moon of Alabama". Today the site has disappeared from Google search results for this query.
Posted by: Komrade | Oct 5 2022 12:46 utc | 41
Well, b, nothing new on the Western front, is it? The US and their West European poodles have continuously whitewashed (Neo-)Nazi groups all over the world. And other extremists, too, as other barflies pointed out. At home, conservative - and sometimes even left-wing - groups can easily receive the Nazi branding by opposing the politics of the Empire. Abroad, the State Department et al. continuously nourish, pamper, and cover far-right forces if they're at slightest helpful against "evil Communism", the "Yellow man", the "mad mullahs" of Iran, or who else forms a potential opponent of the glorious City upon the Hill. Just think of Franco and Salazar on the Iberian Peninsula, the military juntas in Greece and South America, far-right groups in South Africa and Northern Ireland, Stay-behind forces in Italy, Belgium, and other parts of Western Europe, or the Banderites in Soviet Ukraine. Especially the latter! As regards them - why should the US change a policy which so perfectly worked for decades now? And also don't forget your native Germany and the links between the US and Nazism before, during, and after WW2. The links of honourable gentlemen like Rockefeller and Ford. As I mentioned in the other thread a couple of days ago – Ford's barracks in Cologne were bombed, the halls kept unscathed, and lorry production already resumed in Mid-May 1945...
Posted by: Seneschal | Oct 5 2022 12:46 utc | 42
Their hate of anything Russia allows them to ally with even the worst people one can think of while main stream media provide cover for those people's hateful ideology
...the worst people one can think of...
Well, being in the hopper stage of their psychopathy, the youngsters with tattoos are just squishy larvae. I mean, compared to their courtiers, their handlers, the super imagoes, the motherfuckers in suits and ties who reside entrenched in all of our 'pluralistic' institutions, the ones who foment and incite this swarming anti-human plague...
Posted by: john | Oct 5 2022 12:50 utc | 43
Testament to how thirsty “we” are for info.):
….Ooh. I see Brian Berletic / New Atlas has a new yt …vid up…it’s fresh, it’s only been up 15 minutes …..and it’s had 6,500+ views…. (at the time that I clicked)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pONjlORXdFQ
Update on Russian operations in Ukraine for October 5, 2022
- Latest US aid package falls far short of replacing steep Ukrainian losses amid continued offensives;
- Ukraine’s offensive has limited capabilities, will not achieve “victory” over Russian forces in territory deemed “Ukrainian” by Kiev;
- Ukrainian offensive is an “all-or-nothing” proposition, hoping to achieve psychological and political gains toward ending the conflict in ways Ukrainian military force cannot;
- Western analysts celebrate the psychological impact the offensive is having on pro-Russian media, pundits, and even prominent members of Russian society;
- In reality, Ukraine will be left overextended and vulnerable just as Russia’s 300,000-strong mobilization begins shaping the battlefield.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 5 2022 12:53 utc | 44
Why Putin freed the Azov leadership beats the hell out of me, especially as they are accused of war crimes
Posted by: Gerard | Oct 5 2022 12:59 utc | 45
Here we go again; just like in Syria where the US classified terrorists as "moderate rebels".
Posted by: John Mason | Oct 5 2022 12:41 utc | 40
I though that too. It also works in reverse, e.g.,
the Taliban were "freedom fighters" against the Russians in Afghanistan, but now they are labeled as "terrorists". Amazing (and disheartening) that the public falls for this nonsense.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Oct 5 2022 13:06 utc | 46
Another reminder that neoliberalism was a fascist Italian project and fascism on the whole is just liberalism in a state of crisis.
Posted by: linbiao | Oct 5 2022 13:12 utc | 47
"Fancy that - Russia releasing Nazis in “prisoner swaps “!!! - when one of the key motivations for the War on the first place is “De-Nazification”!!! Posted by: Julian | Oct 5 2022 11:25 utc | 33"
Well, @ Julian.
Mr. Kolomojsky was the President of the Jewish Community of Ukraine when he founded and funded four self-proclaimed Nazi battalions Azov, Aidar, Dnipro I, and Dnipro II. Check their insignias. Mr. Kolomojsky currently lives in Israel as an Israeli citizen. Is Kolomojsky a Judeo-Nazi?
Is Mr. Zelensky, whose National Guard incorporated the self-proclaimed Nazis of the Azov battalion, a Judeo-Nazi?
IS Nuland-Kagan, who had run a putsch in collaboration with Banderites in Kiev in 2014, a Judeo-Nazi?
Was Madeleine Albright, who declared that the death of 500.000 Iraqi children "was worth it," a genocidal Jew in charge of the US State Department?
Is Wolfowitz, who in 2000 had spoken to Banderites to DC and promised them all kinds of help in fighting with Russia, a Judeo-Nazi?
Is Blinken, who supports the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act exempting Ukraine from all arms control procedures, a Judeo-Nazi?
And, are the followers of Stepan Bandera a tool in the hands of US Ziocons? -- It looks like they are.
Posted by: Cerena | Oct 5 2022 13:17 utc | 48
Too late now to claim any high ground over this. Now that Putin has in effect set the Azovstal captives free, this ship has sailed--and denatsifikatsiya as a goal has been quietly abandoned. In retrospect, why all the fuss to capture these specimens alive.
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Oct 5 2022 11:34 utc | 38
U mad bro? Missing the forest for the trees. The ultimate goal is saving Russian lives.
Posted by: Jun | Oct 5 2022 13:28 utc | 49
Lots questioning Russia's "release" (actually transfer to Turkey for the duration of the war) of Ukrainian Nazis and question how this contributes to de-Nazification of Ukraine.
Ultra-national ethno-cultural ideologies are not going away. The only solution is to ensure they are a fringe ideology, as they are in most countries. Making them nationalist martyrs, as was done with Bandera, ensures the legacy lives on.
The problem in Ukraine, was the outsized influence of the neo-Nazis in the security services and military. It appears that Russia has every confidence that these problematic ideologies will not be an effective part of a post-war government in rump Ukraine.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 5 2022 13:30 utc | 50
If you want to live in a white majority country thier will always be nazis, maybe you try immigrating to countries in asia, africa and middle east, and leave us slavic people alone.
Posted by: KFCBOY | Oct 5 2022 13:38 utc | 51
Stoll focusing on the privates, the cannon fodder. But who are the top brass, what are they? The defense minister? The head of the bank? Who owns the media there? Any certain ethnicity? Or possibly the "Anglo Saxons"??
And you wonder why Russian propanda is a big zero.
Posted by: Thim | Oct 5 2022 13:45 utc | 52
...from the US POV whats not to like??????
these fanatics are willingly volunteering to being impaled on Russian defenses/advances......they just want some weapons to take with them on their charge.
Deep down the US ideologically are no different, but these folks are useful as they are willing to die for their beliefs!
Look at it like this - bad arabs & moderate arabs.............only without the turbans.
Posted by: James Cook | Oct 5 2022 13:46 utc | 53
An analyst's view of the Ukraine conflict...
https://cont.ws/@Severro/2390143
From Monday to Saturday noon, 121 units were destroyed. vehicles (armored vehicles, pickups, special equipment of various types), 89 AFVs (of which at least 30 tanks), 1 air defense system, 13 MLRS (including at least 2 Himars batteries of an unknown number, presumably 2-3 units each), 24 units . artillery, 8 aircraft, 39 drones, 30 ammunition depots (including at least 3-4 really large ones), 39 command posts and locations, 5 factories for the repair of military equipment (they have at least 90 tanks under repair only in Kharkov, at least 10 pieces of artillery in Zaporozhye and an unknown number of tanks in Dnepropetrovsk and the Mykolaiv region), 1 ground control station of the Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles complex, 2 radar stations of the S-300 air defense system. All artillery
During the week, at least 10 units of various types of military equipment and at least 100 prisoners were captured. There were reports of the defeat of the Zelenodolsk (Krivoy Rog) TPP, but without details. In addition, attempts to attack the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Experienced, Kurdyumovka, Belogorivka, Vuhledar, Kupyansk (2 attacks) in the Zaporozhye region and Kherson region were suppressed. The Andreevsky bridgehead near Ingulets was almost completely destroyed. The Russian army is advancing in the areas of the settlement. Zaitsevo, Mayorsk, Veselaya Dolina, Bakhmutskoye, Otradovka, Kurdyumovka, New York, Pervomayskoye, Vyemka, Pavlovka, Bezymyannoye, as well as in Artyomovsk and Soledar. There are fights near Seversk.
This is a 5 day summary. Moreover, judging by the comparison of figures, Konashenkov’s reports do not include a considerable amount of liquidated equipment as part of the offensives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and our defensive battles. They seem to appear in text summaries, but they are clearly not taken into account in the overall figures. So, according to reports of defeats of accumulations of manpower and military equipment, 30 tanks and 21 infantry fighting vehicles were eliminated, that is, only 51 pieces, and the total losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were declared at 89 units of armored combat vehicles. That is, defensive battles account for a total of only 38 vehicles in 5 days, although according to video summaries and reports of military correspondents, there are much more of them. Only according to confirmed footage, video materials and reports of military correspondents in the framework of such skirmishes and our defense, 21 tanks and 28 infantry fighting vehicles have been eliminated from the Armed Forces of Ukraine since Monday morning. There is more evidence, but let's leave it. That is, the real losses are about 110-120 AFVs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, taking into account what was hit and captured “at the front”, but without taking into account what burned down in the shops. No less important is the fact that the reports have never yet featured the defeat of Ukrainian targets by Geran-2 drones, of which there were already quite a few.
According to all the critical numbers of equipment (not counting air defense systems and aviation, with which there is a separate conversation), from 10 to 15% of everything that the Armed Forces had on Monday morning was lost. And this despite the fact that the soldiers mobilized during this time have just begun to be transferred to the DPR and for additional training, and not immediately to the front. In manpower, the Armed Forces of Ukraine still have from 3 to 5 thousand killed, wounded and captured per day. This does not appear in the reports, but it is clearly visible, since within the framework of rocket and artillery hits alone, about 500 people are finished off in this way per day. As part of the defensive battles, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are much greater (in the morning today, Zaluzhny even woke up Zelensky with a report on completely disproportionate losses near Liman alone).
In parallel with this, NATO noticed that they no longer had tanks of the T-72 type, the M-55 (Slovenian modification of the T-55) was few and they needed shells. Other observers in NATO noted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are switching to artillery of 105 caliber instead of 155, since 155 is not left in stock. The total assistance that has been allocated lately is 21 Himars (although only 18 have been confirmed so far), 150 old armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles from the United States, several dozen armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, as well as Gepard missile and gun systems from Germany. For a long time nothing has been heard about the supply of 777 howitzers, Caesars or German Panzers. We don’t hear about the supply of Javelins, for which the Ukrainians literally prayed for months for some reason, as well as about Nlaw and other nonsense. The west does not supply Ukraine with helicopters, something rarely and little flies there.
Judging by all these figures and trends, by the time all the mobilized are put into operation, they will be needed only for the rapid occupation of new territories. In October, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will lose about 600 AFVs (now they have from 900 to 1000 units in stock and about 200 more will probably be delivered to them), 100-150 pieces of artillery (the stock is about the same, a maximum of 200 units) and at least 50 MLRS of various types ( stocks are not really known, but also running out). Most likely, all remaining radars and almost all drones will lose. Planes have been flying for a long time in a single copy, maybe 5 more pieces will be shot down during this time. They will probably lose their U points and HARM missiles completely.
No less important is the information that almost all the reserves from the Kharkov region and from the Slavic garrison were thrown on Wednesday to storm the Liman, and in the afternoon there was information that, in order to speed up, they transferred part of the troops directly from Kyiv. Which indicates a total lack of resources of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
In the evening, new reports came about the fighting in the Kherson region. According to preliminary data, crests already have at least 25 pieces of equipment and at least 10 tanks of them. They are met really hot and hard. Moreover, of these 25 units, 13 were thrown onto the battlefield during the execution of the Ukrainian column. They write that the meat rushes and dies in incredible quantities. And although the ukrams really managed to take a couple of villages and seem to be gaining a foothold in some places, the night promises not only surprises, but also the total destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in these areas. What, in fact, is what all the commanders in the RF Armed Forces are striving for. Twenty-five pieces of equipment is already serious for some kind of evening. And this is despite the ongoing active strikes of our artillery, missiles and aircraft in all other directions. With new attacks on groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine already in Liman itself. Seems to be, the current throw is already really desperate. There is nowhere more desperate. Exactly as I wrote - now or never. And this most never rapidly advances on the remnants of Ukraine.
It seems that NATO has delivered a strict ultimatum - either the successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front will be significant (not taking the unfortunate Liman in 3 weeks of fighting) or the help is over. All NATO stocks on the fronts burn out too costly, too quickly, and NATO instructors themselves know better than we do. And there are already a lot of videos from near Kherson, different ones. And the losses there are fatal. If the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot achieve anything here either and will not be able to continue the offensive after Liman, the front may begin to roll back towards Kyiv as early as next week, oddly enough. At what it is very fast and very hard. Now everything that is - goes into battle. Theoretically, they can throw in general the entire available reserve of about 1000 AFVs and all the artillery in order to somehow break through somewhere. They know that the chances are extremely small, but they no longer want to sit and die under shelling. Ukrainians have been wailing more than once about “victory on the battlefield”. And here it is, the very battlefield. In all areas. I'm sure ours will last. Yes, you may have to retreat somewhere else and somehow, just like in Liman. I do not exclude. But there won't be many such points. And it is unlikely that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to recover from the current losses in the coming months. If at all they manage to somehow recover from the current losses.
I translated this from the original Russian for the convenience of everyone here.
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 5 2022 13:53 utc | 54
At 41: Transition to DDG! At 45: these Azovs are compromised. First by being captured alive, Second by being released. Internal Nazi Paranoia makes them useless. ;-)
Posted by: NoOne | Oct 5 2022 13:54 utc | 55
The term "neo-nazi" is an apt term for those of the azov persuasion, just as "neo-liberal" is apt for those pretending to be liberals. We have discussed in depth why this is so - discussions of this can be found in the archives.
b is appropriately laying the foundation for this exploration by means of the NYT. I can remember when even the PBS Newshour was featuring those earlier observations of this militant group that even the German Nazi party had rejected. It is true they are not 'pure' German nazis; they are worse. They are scorned nazis. You might say they are satanists that even Satan wants no part of.
So, for Russians, they are less valuable than dirt itself. Which is why a prisoner exchange is for Russians worthwhile. And why, indirectly, their own captured Russian soldiers ought to be treated better by the sadists than they have been so far - as valuable 'currency' to retrieve their kind, the less than dirt azovs. Who themselves have been well treated, as is the Russian way. Much as in past times, icons were preserved by the communists, who had no belief in them, because they too were valuable items of exchange.
By this then, Russia demonstrates who she is.
Posted by: juliania | Oct 5 2022 14:06 utc | 56
I've seen a lot of weird stuff on the boob tube over the decades, but watching Wolf Blitzer, of CNN, defend the Nazis during the 2014 coup was over the top.
Posted by: Leroy | Oct 5 2022 14:15 utc | 57
Posted by: Down South | Oct 5 2022 9:47 utc | 10
Dont worry be happy.
The jews help Lenin et all to take power.
Katyn was made by Stalin.
Mr. Putin gave a hand to some neighbors.
Life is more complicated than them versus us or good and bad.
Regards.
Posted by: Roberto | Oct 5 2022 14:23 utc | 58
Given every chance in the world to step up to the mike, the US still does not deny its destroying strikes on NordStream 1 & 2.
And World Journalism sleeps with the fishes.
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 5 2022 14:28 utc | 59
Putin has made heroes out of Nazis.
Any man who stands up and fights against those who are shelling and starving your city is a hero, by definition. You forget what that were in the past, you forget what their uniform says. They are heroes now, and will stay heroes until the war is over.
One day, the Russians will go home, and they will go back to being Nazis.
Posted by: ThrowsOfWar | Oct 5 2022 14:30 utc | 60
What the NYT and all the western press says, the way they paint these animals, I don't care.
I feel ashamed that Russia released them. And released them on the 4x1 basis required by Ukraine.
The Nazi-clown Zelensky kept his word and freed them, while Putin, the Denazifier, showed what his impotent shrills are worth.
Posted by: Grey Sparrow | Oct 5 2022 14:37 utc | 61
This tweet has flashbacks to when Ted Cruz and Mike Pompous were emphatic NS2 Is a security issue for the US….and thus should not be allowed….
https://twitter.com/IrkHudson/status/1577645979775520771?cxt=HHwWhsC-3Z2q9uQrAAAA
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 5 2022 14:45 utc | 62
The Western corporate media backs Ukraine to the hilt against Russia, when it's not doing that, its lying to the general public in their respective countries. Backing Neo-Nazi's in Ukraine and in general those who follow and support the Banderite ideology is a means to an end, the corporate media and the Western politicians (well most of them) don't really care what the public thinks.
If backing those Neo-Nazi animals helps them achieve their goals, then so be it, that's why the MSM is now portraying those evil men, as victims, even though they've committed heinous crimes against their own people.
With millions of Ukrainians flooding into Western Europe, we can expect a rise in the Banderite ideology within Western European countries in the future.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 5 2022 14:48 utc | 63
At 63: Its my Observation as well. The Ukraine is used to establish Fascism in the EU! The Fabricated Corona Madness was just the Prelude to that...
Posted by: NoOne | Oct 5 2022 14:54 utc | 64
Map and Russian strikes. (5th October)
"Russia struck the 92nd Mechanized Brigade of the AFU near Kupyansk with high-precision missiles;
Russia struck the 93rd Mechanized Brigade of the AFU near Redkodub with high-precision missiles;
Russia struck the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade of the AFU near Spornoe with high-precision missiles;
Russia struck the 102nd Territorial Defence Brigade of the AFU near Zaporozhye with high-precision missiles;
Russia struck the 35th Marine Brigade of the AFU near Davydiv Brid with high-precision missiles;
Russia struck the 128th Mountain Assault Brigade of the AFU near Dudchany with high-precision missiles;
Russian-led forces entered the village of Pervomaiskein the Peski area;
Clashes between the AFU and the Russian Army continue east of Kupyansk;
Russian Geranium-2 UAVs hit the Ukrainian military facility in the town of Bila Tserkva;
Russian air defense systems shot down 6 Ukrainian drones near Grakovo in the Kharkiv region, Novochervonoe in the LPR, Staromayorskoe, Urozhajnoe, and Dokuchaevsk in the DPR;
Russian air defense systems shot down 15 HIMARS and Olkha missiles near Korobka, Veseloe, Antonovka, Novaya Kakhovka, Tokarevka, Rakovka, Novaya Kakhovka, Antonovka in the Kherson region."
https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/5october2022_Ukraine_map-768x543.jpg
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 5 2022 14:54 utc | 65
Zelensky is Jewish.
Those who do not 100% back Zelensky and buy him cocaine are anti-semites.
The only people who do not support Ukraine are anti-semites.
No discussion allowed. Speak and ADL will be after you.
Zelensky is a celebrity. Celebrities are way more important than politics. We understand the world through the celebrities we identify with. We all identify as philosemitic. Doing otherwise is social suicide.
The best you could hope for if you do not wave the blue and yellow banner is to be regarded as a strange old crank.
Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 5 2022 11:27 utc | 34
As one strange old crank to another, thank you, oldhippie! That is classic.
Posted by: juliania | Oct 5 2022 14:58 utc | 66
Komrade | Oct 5 2022 12:46
In Canada, Google still returns this site as the first result, with or without quotes when searching for Moon of Alabama. Maybe google censorship is country specific.
Nazi monsters one year, lovely people the next. I wonder how many of them are also on a US payroll. The propaganda is sickening. Change the narrative, then rewrite history, web pages, stealth corrections, Wikipedia edits -- just like an electronic version of Orwell's 1984 Winston burning/rewriting newspaper articles. Young people who look up Azov in the future will think they were nice people. The only thing that might getting in the way is google accidently offering Moon of Alabama in the search results.
Posted by: PP | Oct 5 2022 14:59 utc | 67
Zelensky is a celebrity. Celebrities are way more important than politics. We understand the world through the celebrities we identify with. We all identify as philosemitic. Doing otherwise is social suicide.
Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 5 2022 11:27 utc | 34
Reminds me of a quote by 'Birdnsn' Bryant, an old crank if ever there was one:
"If you're not antisemitic you're not paying attention!"
Jun | Oct 5 2022 13:28 utc | 49
"The ultimate goal is saving Russian lives."
Where is this written?
Achieving goals with minimal loss of life of Russian soldiers is one thing, putting as "ultimate goal" (?) to avoid losses of soldiers in a war is stupid. Can't you see the idiocy you posted?
Furthermore, what about the lives lost by Russian soldiers to imprison these rats? How many were there? Don't these count?
Posted by: Grey Sparrow | Oct 5 2022 15:05 utc | 69
The US (and its "allies") will therefore support anybody: enemy of my enemy is my friend. Let's not pretend that any government here is different.
Posted by: Ivan | Oct 5 2022 11:30 utc | 35
Governments and nations whom they supposedly serve and represent are more cognitive construct than actual, and that holds true for those both working and believing in them. Which means that notions like 'the US Government' does X or 'the US Government' wants Y are at best misleading but more generally enable the consent-based conformity of whatever current version of 'normal' is currently being pushed.
Lots questioning Russia's "release" (actually transfer to Turkey for the duration of the war) of Ukrainian Nazis and question how this contributes to de-Nazification of Ukraine.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 5 2022 13:30 utc | 50
PS For those unfamiliar with Turkish jails, I have it on good authority from those in the know that the prerequisite for breakfast is to submit to a little friendly buggery from the breakfast-serving guard, the same prerequisite holds true for lunch except there is additional buggery before the (mandatory) cheese course, and of course there is a double buggery session before dessert at dinner. A very generous menu.
So don't worry: those Jewish-sponsored Nazis are being well and truly serviced!
This varies off topic, a little, but this is interesting from the "WarGonzo" Telegram channel.
"The @wargonzo project has prepared a number of investigations on how the Turkish special services are conducting subversive activities on the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as on how, under the auspices of Erdogan, ISIS-Ichkerians are already going to fight in Ukraine. Will publish soon. Wait. It will be loud."
Posted by: chunga | Oct 5 2022 15:31 utc | 72
Putin did not make the Above members heroes, those who invite them to Congress and present them as heroes did. So let's not mix apples and pears and pretend they can be mixed. Releasing them was the right thing to do. It has no bearing on the "denazification" goal. As far as I understand, no commanders were released and no one who is to answer for war crimes.
The ugly show in the US is nothing new, either from the US and European "leaders" or their media. Just another display of who they really are.
Now let's stop pretending the citizens of those countries (any country) are not responsible for the kind of ruling class they have and their policies both domestically and internationally. They are, we are. The media are not the only reason and the only guilty party. Besides, the media are the way they are also because of the citizenry.
Posted by: JB | Oct 5 2022 15:36 utc | 73
Congratulations to France, for becoming the second largest country in Europe a few hours ago this morning while Putin was busy as I was sleeping. Now if only Macron could find some inner DeGaule and do as much for France as Putin has.
Posted by: William Haught | Oct 5 2022 15:57 utc | 74
Grey Sparrow | Oct 5 2022 15:05 utc | 69
The ultimate goal for denazification is to save Russian lives. That's not idiocy it's the raison d'etre for this SMO written in numerous speeches by Putin. Playing arm chair tactician and second guessing military and political decisions without all the necessary facts is vainglorious. You don't think Putin and his team didn't carefully weigh the pros and cons of the prisoner swap?
Posted by: Jun | Oct 5 2022 15:57 utc | 75
Komrad@41:
putting the search term within quotation marks on Google returned several links to MOA.
Posted by: morongobill | Oct 5 2022 15:59 utc | 76
They did the same whitewash job on Al Qaeda (al Nusra) in Syria.
Posted by: D J G | Oct 5 2022 16:00 utc | 77
... Now let's stop pretending the citizens of those countries (any country) are not responsible for the kind of ruling class they have and their policies both domestically and internationally. ...
Posted by: JB | Oct 5 2022 15:36 utc | 73
This is a variation of a dismally common pleb shaming trope. When the candidature is rigged, your statement is no more credible than glibly asserting that all inmates deserve the prison guards and warden they deserve.
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 5 2022 16:01 utc | 78
It’s absolutely outrageous that residents of Florida have to stoop to this level in this day and age.
Well, they did elect Ron DeSantis as their Governor.
You do stupid things, they have results.
Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Oct 5 2022 16:05 utc | 79
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 5 2022 16:01 utc | 78
... GET the prison guards and warden they deserve.
Oops.
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 5 2022 16:05 utc | 80
On a meta level, where is the troll army?
The purpose was to flood all social media to perpetuate the broader narrative that a desperate Russia might utilize nukes in a last ditch effort to stave off collapse and defeat.
However, after a short, concerted push, they seem to have all but disappeared. Was it merely a test run to measure response/effectiveness? Will they regroup and try again?
Oddly silent, no? (Except for tradional, non-aligned trolls who attempt to antagonize for their own pleasure, regardless of platform, users or topical interest.)
Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 5 2022 16:10 utc | 81
Report German media (NTV)
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Putin wants to iron out the front debacle
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The military setbacks on all fronts are making life difficult for the Kremlin. However, the day after Ukraine's breakthrough near Cherson, all President Putin can think of is to promise on television that everything will be fine again. Errors in partial mobilization have been corrected.
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https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Putin-will-Front-Debakel-wieder-ausbuegeln-article23631283.html?fbclid=IwAR35G8QolmWJ8tgVEgIhOmT6tahIm-yQ9MFAvu8mBAhFRLgqA4_f5-g8H-4
Posted by: Mo3.1 | Oct 5 2022 16:10 utc | 82
as i've said since the beginning of this thing: funny how the woketards consider EVERYONE to be "fascists" or "nazis" until some actual "neo-nazis" show up. maybe ask some azov guys if a guy in a dress is a "woman". unless they answer in the affirmative they'll get the "nazi" label in no time.
canadian media is basically US media. funny that i just saw a report on how MAGAberta's greasy fat ass...oops! i mean "premier"...is sending more millions in "aid" to the "ukraine" so it can disappear down a hole like the rest of it. obviously trying to get the votes of our large and annoying ukie demographic as their meemaws and peepaws were probably banderatastic. those same folks recently had a lame little "protest/march" thing here and i've never seen so many greasy haired, square bodied, grey skinned lumps in one place. and that was the women! i kid, i kid.
Posted by: the pair | Oct 5 2022 16:11 utc | 83
It’s absolutely outrageous that residents of Florida have to stoop to this level in this day and age.
“I’ll take ‘Life’s tough, it’s tougher if you’re stupid’ for $500, Alex”
Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Oct 5 2022 16:11 utc | 84
The Outlaw US Empire's described as the "Master" of the Nazis in Ukraine and elsewhere. As I've previously noted, being the Master of Nazis implies that the Master is also a Nazi. The Russian leadership seems to agree with all that given what they say. However, the exact ideology isn't pure Hitlerism as it's modified by Neoliberalism which is seen as Totalitarian. So, the overall blend combines elements of Hitler's Plan Ost with the Neoliberal formulation for global control as described by Dr. Hudson beginning with his Super Imperialism and further explained in its sequel Global Fracture.
The definition of Fascism needs modification as the initial explanation made no distinction between differing versions of Capitalism--Industrial and Financial. What has occurred is the capture of governments by Financial Capitalism from which the new Fascism has arisen with the marriage of it with government. Add the Russophobic Genocidal intent of Plan Ost and you have NeoNazisim. Was that the intent back in 1996 when Full Spectrum Domination was announced as the Outlaw US Empire's #1 policy goal? Given the behavior toward Russia and Russians at the time, a partial yes must be admitted, but the idea wasn't fully articulated yet, although that occurred soon thereafter with Brezenski's book The Grand Chessboard.
So, it's reasonable to accept what the NYETimes has become given its Masters--a NeoNazi rag--and it will continue to be that until the Empire's defeated.
On beings as Nazis...or neo-Nazis...or...
Try this on to see if it fits all the facts and your [dear reader] own observations.
Nazi is just another word to describe any being having obsessive urge to make others conform to that being's reality, using whatever force is available. The phenomena may be of temporary or lifelong duration, totally resistive or not to any known form of treatment.
The above point-of-view can be reworded for clarity, but if it fits, no sense dancing around it. It must be confronted or by its targets.
Posted by: chu teh | Oct 5 2022 16:41 utc | 86
I wonder how NYET will slant its reporting on the coming OPEC+ production cut. RT reports the following:
According to CNN, some of the talking points drafted in a state of urgency by the White House suggested the potential cut would be viewed as “a hostile act” and a “total disaster.”“There is great political risk to your reputation and relations with the US and the West if you move forward,” the media quoted the talking points draft as saying.
So, sanctions on OPEC? That would drive up oil prices better than a production cut. Respond to the "hostile act" with more pipeline or tanker terrorism?
Meanwhile Germany's Habeck is incensed at the excess profits "friendly nations" are gouging from Germany:
The US and other “friendly” gas-supplier states have been profiting from the worsening energy crisis in the EU, Germany’s Economy Minister Robert Habeck said on Wednesday.“Some countries, including friendly ones, sometimes achieve astronomical prices [for their gas]. Of course, that brings with it problems that we have to talk about,” Habeck said, in an interview with the regional paper NOZ translated by NBC News. He called for more solidarity from Washington when it comes to assisting its energy-pressed allies in Europe.
He further states his dread that European nations will bid against each other and thus further drive-up gas prices. The man's a fool as even if they bid together the price will rise because there's not anywhere near enough supply to satisfy demand, and it's all Germany's doing.
As above
It must be confronted by its targets, lest they become victims.
Posted by: chu teh | Oct 5 2022 16:43 utc | 88
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 5 2022 16:01 utc | 78
"Under the influence of politicians, masses of people tend to ascribe the responsibility for wars to those who wield power at any given time. In World War I it was the munitions industrialists; in World War II it was the psychopathic generals who were said to be guilty. This is passing the buck.
The responsibility for wars falls solely upon the shoulders of these same masses of people, for they have all the necessary means to avert war in their own hands. In part by their apathy, in part by their passivity, and in part actively, these same masses of people make possible the catastrophes under which they themselves suffer more than anyone else.
To stress this guilt on the part of the masses of people, to hold them solely responsible, means to take them seriously. On the other hand, to commiserate masses of people as victims, means to treat them as small, helpless children. The former is the attitude held by genuine freedom fighters; the latter that attitude held by power-thirsty politicians."
Wilhelm Reich, The Mass Psychology of Fascism
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Oct 5 2022 16:46 utc | 89
This site disappeared momentarily yesterday, would not load. I hope everything's OK with admins. It's obvious SOMEBODY doesn't agree with content here.
Please keep the good work coming. Thank you for remaining objective amidst a rising tide of insanity there is in other media. You're about the only ones I see consistently offering a narrative counter to the MSM with Ukraine.
Posted by: SamuelAdamsOktoberfe | Oct 5 2022 16:46 utc | 90
thanks b... it is as @ D J G | Oct 5 2022 16:00 utc | 77 said - "They did the same whitewash job on Al Qaeda (al Nusra) in Syria."
so karlof1 is right - ..."the NYETimes has become given its Masters--a NeoNazi rag--and it will continue to be that until the Empire's defeated."
thanks juliania and old hippie...
the thread is rather devoid of trolls....just a few regulars complaining and not understanding how life is a game of give and take and a long game too..
Posted by: james | Oct 5 2022 16:47 utc | 91
@B9k9 | Oct 5 2022 16:10 utc | 81
On a meta level, where is the troll army?Busy looking at a map maybe. Ukraine got smaller.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 5 2022 16:47 utc | 92
I feel like an umbrella-drink, it's so chill here today. Twitter had a major purge of bot accounts yesterday as Elon's buy offer is back on the table. Wonder if it's related.
The best thing about Ukraine's Nazis is that Jews can't use Nazis anymore to promote victimhood.
Posted by: gottlieb | Oct 5 2022 16:50 utc | 93
Of the Azov 108 yjat are in Ukraine, no doubt the Russians are hoping to kill them the second time round, having released yhem as they couldn't kill them in captivity and didn't want them alive and released at the war's end.
The 6 in Turkey were the 'leaders' and are stuck there, but contrary to Scorpion's excellent take above, I suspect that they are under house arrest as guests, not doing hard time in jail.
Posted by: JohninMK | Oct 5 2022 16:54 utc | 94
What is the difference between Russians - for the western oligarchical mafia and its media agents (and most of its population) - in 2022 and Jews - for nazi Germany - in 1935? The slander is approaching similar levels; the indifference to their fate is on a par (whether they are verbally abused, physically tortured or murdered western indifference matches nazi Germany's)
What is the difference between Nazi Ukraine in 2022 and nazi Germany in 1935? The Ukrainians didn't have time to erect concentration camps yet; in all other aspects - oozing hatred, mad slander, hellish violence, nazi education of children - it is a match made in hell.
It would be of interest and social profit to make a scholarly study of this contemporary phenomenon - with all relevant appendages, i.e., foreign implications.
Posted by: Sam | Oct 5 2022 16:59 utc | 95
Putin and this website keeps making the assertion that Ukraine need to be "denazified". But neither seem able to present a neo-Nazi group other than the Azov Battalion. It's always Azov, Azov and only Azov. A battalion that suffered great losses in Mariopal and appears to be little more than cannon fodder in current fighting. Every day, Putin's claim of Ukraine being overrun with Nazis looks increasing exaggerated, to the level of claims of nuclear weapons in Iraq. Even in the case of Azov itself, if Azov is such a dangerous organization, why did Putin have little problem setting Azov leaders free in a prisoner exchange? In the meantime, real neo-Nazis nearly everywhere else in the world rally behind Putin as their personal hero, alongside Trump and LePen and Meloni and Orban. Even that website about the Schiff meeting appears to be a Trumpist website with headlines like It begins: Having defeated Big Media in court of public opinion, Trump gets serious and spreading Trumpist lies like "the Trump-Russia hoax".
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Oct 5 2022 17:08 utc | 96
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 5 2022 16:13 utc | 85
Putin has been the Master of Nazis for years, working for them to win elections in the US and in Europe. And to fight against "Fascists" we now have to modify the word "Fascist"?
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Oct 5 2022 17:13 utc | 97
@Down South | Oct 5 2022 9:47 utc | 10
You mention Mussolinis connection to Britain from around 1922
Actually british media have confirmed that Britain recruited him already in 1917
And moreover he was a young socialist, with small economic means, who noticed that there were other socialist activists who seemed to be surpricing well-funded.
In 1914 before WWI he suddenly became a nationalist warmonger and seemed to become wellfunded too.
Before WWI Germany offered Italy all concessions they had demanded if they just stayed out of the war, But the British in a secret deal, unknown to Germany, offered Italy some more territories.
Thus Italy joined the war on Britains side and had something like 600 thousand killed and beyond that the usual proportion of wounded.
After the war Britain didnt hold the promise made. Thus Italy gained nothing compared with Germany's offer an on top of that all the suffering.
There is a good chance that Britain had something to do with Mussolinis metamorphosis from socialist to fascist warmonger as early as 1914 before WWI.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 5 2022 17:16 utc | 98
Putin has been the Master of Nazis for years, working for them to win elections in the US and in Europe. And to fight against "Fascists" we now have to modify the word "Fascist"?
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Oct 5 2022 17:13 utc | 97
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Wow...rarely heard such rubbish...
Is there possibly more out of the bin?
Posted by: Mo3.1 | Oct 5 2022 17:17 utc | 99
Mo3.1 @99--
That's just another mule hoping to get a sugar cube. The wild inventiveness of their whip holders is amazing at times yet indicative of their desperation.
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NATO: the Nazi American Terrorist Operation
Posted by: Michael Murry | Oct 5 2022 9:02 utc | 1