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October 20, 2022
The Lettuce Has Won. Liz Truss Resigned.

In the race towards the use-by date the lettuce persevered.


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Liz Truss has resigned:

Liz Truss has resigned as prime minister and will step down after a week-long emergency contest to find her successor, she has announced outside Downing Street.

The final straw for many Tory MPs appeared to be the chaotic scenes on Wednesday, in which a vote on a Labour motion over fracking led to mayhem in the voting lobbies, with shouting and jostling. Afterwards, a dozen or more Conservative MPs who rebelled did not even know whether they still had the whip.


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On July 7, when Boris Johnson stepped down, I wrote:

Bye Bye Boris. I Hope We Will Never Hear Again Of You. – July 07, 2022

A current poll says that party members would favor the current defense secretary Ben Wallace. But that does not mean they will get him as one of the two candidates to vote on as the MPs have the say over that choice.

Johnson may try to get someone elected who would look worse in office than he did. Liz Truss is a good candidate for that.

The process will be, as usual, a very dirty business – knives will be out to backstab certain candidates, deals will be made, favors will be promised and not be held, people will be lied to.

On September 5, when Truss won the Conservative Party leadership, I said that Boris might come back:

RIP Great Britain – September 05, 2022

With the election process rigged for the Tories and the Labour leadership held by the hapless and vindictive Keir Starmer there is little chance for regime change in Britain. When Truss falls the premiership could even go back to Boris Johnson.


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Her incompetence and libertarian zeal nearly killed the British Pound:

Liz Truss Is Already The Bad Prime Minister Everyone Expected Her To Be – September 29, 2022

As soon as the 'mini budget' was announced the British pound sterling tanked. This not only against the overvalued U.S. dollar but also compared to the rather weak Euro.

Interest rates on British government bonds (Gilts) increased sharply.

After two days the British central bank, the Bank of England, had to intervene to prevent a Lehman like crisis that would have killed many British pension funds. The bank, which had just increased its interest rate to tighten money supply, reverted to quantitative easing by buying gilts in the open market. This will further increase the already runaway inflation.

The lower pound sterling with further increase energy costs. Many British homeowners have mortgage with flexible interest rates. They will get devastated by all of this.

In consequence Truss fired her Chancellor of the Treasury:

Líz Truss Continues To Be The Bad Prime Minister Everyone Had Expected Her To Be – October 14 2002

After only 38 days Kwarteng is no longer chancellor. That is good. But Liz Truss still has the same ideas and in her libertarian zeal will continue to make dreadful policies.

How many of those will the conservative members of parliament, who had just planned to oust her, let pass?

Said differently. I do not expect that this was the last episode of the bad movie we have just seen. There are many crises still developing in Britain and Europe that will hit critical points over the next months. Wrong decisions can make each of them worse.

Will Boris be back?

The party membership would likely prefer him over the other potential leaders. But will the conservative members of parliament allow him as candidate?

I have my doubts. It may well be that another conservative leader must fail before they allow that to happen.

Comments

I am beyond baffled by British politicians in general. Actually, no, I’m baffled that the British people are willing to put up with this. I mean, sheesh, at least we have interesting stuff here in the US, like Trump and DeSantis clearly have some issues, but with them, it at least seems there may be the possibility of some change coming our way. But every time I get my monthly dose of the train wreck that is UK politics, it is clear there are so many layers of control over this whole thing, it seems like nothing is ever going to change. The fact that Brexit got co-opted so hard should be all the proof anyone would need.

Posted by: iamvar | Oct 20 2022 21:53 utc | 101

Still with the “libertarian zeal” bullshit, b?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 20 2022 22:17 utc | 102

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/liz-truss-and-the-death-of-thatcherism
Good article. The concluding paragraphs:

In Britain, the voters are supposed to be choosing from parties and platforms, not leaders and personalities — at least in theory because leaders and personalities have also been on the ticket since the days of Disraeli and Gladstone. While it is not unconstitutional for a party to change its leader while it holds power, it is customary for the new leader to seek the endorsement of the country in new elections. John Major replaced Margaret Thatcher in 1990, and he won an election in 1992. Gordon Brown replaced Tony Blair in 2006, was criticized for delaying his reckoning until it was unavoidable, and eventually lost the 2010 elections. Theresa May replaced David Cameron in 2016 and won an election in 2017. Johnson called and won an election immediately after taking over from May in 2019.
When the parliamentary Conservatives overthrew Johnson, they changed their party’s leader. In the leadership contest that followed, the Conservative membership changed its party’s platform. Truss tried and failed to implement that platform and reverted to Sunak’s norm. Now she has gone, can the MPs replace her with Sunak, whom the members rejected, and still claim to represent the will of anyone but themselves?
The public voted for Johnson. The parliamentary Conservatives voted for Sunak. The Conservative membership voted for Truss. The polls show that the membership would rather Johnson return than Sunak become prime minister. Hunt might fancy moving next door from No. 11, but he fell in the first round this summer. The Conservatives have created a crisis of legitimacy. They can only resolve it by calling a general election. They are bound to lose it, and they deserve to lose it. The British public, however, deserves none of this. Lettuce pray.
Dominic Green is a fellow of the Royal Historical Society and a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute.

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 20 2022 22:38 utc | 103

we’ve had vegetables in office before (Reagan, Biden) i think it’s time to give another one a chance.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 20 2022 22:38 utc | 104

in fact, they might do well to replace the british royal family with a random selection from the produce aisle.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 20 2022 22:39 utc | 105

sippy the shot glass | Oct 20 2022 21:09 utc | 92
Lawfare. Yep
@bar who are TDS or otherwise. I would bet none of you are following the court cases re the RussiaRussiaRussia Mueller investigation being concluded right now.
Durham poked right into the Steele Dossier, but got spooked, and fled when he was about to discover it was a *literal* *literal* and that’s a LITERAL 4chan piece of fan fiction …. That Trump paid prostitutes peeing on the Moscow motel bed once occupied by Obama …..
The guy who supplied the guy who supplied the guy in the Steele Dossier (who are all DNC affiliates) ….have all slithered away …. while George Papadopoulos was convicted…..
“Technifog” has an educational twitter and substack:
https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1581440461331648512
Perhaps Robert Mueller was lying when he said the Steele Dossier wasn’t in his “purview.”
Maybe his team withheld evidence.
But there’s no doubt – what he told Congress was 100% false. His team conducted an extensive Steele Dossier investigation.

And: https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1581056776543215616?cxt=HHwWgICp-d2whfErAAAA
Both Comey and Clapper went to Australia for a “secret” meeting in March 2016.
A month later the Australian government proceeds to request to meet me four times in three weeks.
Given the connection to Steele and Australian “diplomat”, Russia hoax begins there

But no one cares…..because if the truth and the slimy putrescence of the Steele Dossier had been ethically investigated…. Julian Assange would not still be in jail, and the murder of Seth Rich would be investigated and the conspirators jailed. (And Julian Assange would be vindicated, because it’s all connected to the same few DNC toxic sewer).

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 20 2022 23:08 utc | 106

I do like the hero’s return plot twist; a St. George to slay the dragon. A nice Labour dragon with fire snorting Europhilia.
What’s the US version of this show?
Posted by: Cyclops | Oct 20 2022 17:59 utc | 72
Having absorbed the continuum field theory blow and now recovered, back to linear time projections:
The similar story to my fanciful BoJo as national savior scenario is very similar:
The nation collapses as desired during the Biden administration which is why Mark Meadows recently said they won’t shoot to impeach him. After the nation is collapsed a great national revival will be spearheaded by Trump who is the only lead politician trusted to do such a thing (though many now like less experienced deSantis). Trump will in fact usher in the Great Narrative/Reset as part of a way of ensuring national prosperity with geopolitical peace and plenty. The patriots will trust him. If anyone else tries to do it they would revolt and go rogue. So the entire dance has been orchestrated to bring the patriots on board with the replacement of the republic with something far different.
Let’s face it: the republic failed. It desperately needs a reset. But if the same power blocs which ruined are the ones who fashion the next iteration, no good will come of it.
But anyway, that’s one cynical prognostication for you!

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 20 2022 23:10 utc | 107

I like Andrei Martyanov’s take on this,
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/10/not-that-it-matters.html
“UK long ago turned into political, economic and military circus and the fact that Liz Truss lasted only 44 days changes absolutely nothing because reserves of clowns in UK are, obviously, limitless…..”
there are many clowns in the USA and EU these days, too, ya know

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 20 2022 23:12 utc | 108

The good citizens of Rostov and Voronezh can now sleep soundly.
Posted by: B. Wildered | Oct 21 2022 3:13 utc | 109

They were both part of the old Khazarian Empire, so perhaps she did recall accurately from her Zionist handler’s briefings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Oct 20 2022 23:19 utc | 109

Gotta larf at “Liz Truss is not a libertarian. It is outrageous to even make this claim. Nigel Farage is the closest politician to a libertarian in the UK that I know of. Truss and Johnson are right wing authoritarians who hold no value for civil liberties.
Posted by: goldhoarder | Oct 20 2022 16:12 utc | 57”

All rightist libertarians become authoritarian once the inevitable happens, that is the abolition of rules they advocated turns against em by inhibiting the planned for money grabbing, so they institute “just a few rules – to keep stability” those rules are strict insensitive & lacking in the nuance that good law making must include.
For me the best recent example of this is documentary series “The Anarchists” where an allegedly free & libertarian anarchopulco became successful thanks to support from the funny money digital currency types. Immediately that occured a community whose class division had been ignored by most apart from usual bourgeois comments about the drug dealing portion of the community where the rather obvious fact that the ‘dealers’ were working class amerikans who had been kept oppressed by the state until they fled to Mexico was snidely remarked upon by those living in luxury up on the hills around the town, found itself split as the committed anarchists saw the strictures that were imposed by the funny money sponsors a repudiation of principle.
Trouble was that the receivers of the funny money sponsorship, had been granted wads of actual cash, USD which gave them great power, so rules were imposed, drugs wouldn’t be so open at anarchopulco and people got murdered. The community fell apart and control of the conference became stricter.
Rightist libertarians imagine that abolition of ‘needless’ rules about minimum wages, taxes etc will make them richer, however when something happens which appears to threaten that wealth, they go straight for the rulebook.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 20 2022 23:37 utc | 110

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 20 2022 23:37 utc | 110
We watched that docuseries too. Another angle on it, for me, was the way they brought in corporate types prior to the forking of the two different groups. Some rules – or at least – order and/or hierarchy – was needed, but when you bring in the McConsultant types or career climbers, things start getting a lot less fun and quickly.
As to the murder, just a casualty of the drug war they thought they were fleeing. I was happy for the ginger girl at the end though; she seemed to have matured and got on the path to turn her life around.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 20 2022 23:43 utc | 111

The good citizens of Rostov and Voronezh can now sleep soundly.
Posted by: B. Wildered | Oct 21 2022 3:13 utc | 112 + 109 and + and + ( typepad still masticating on this)
Finding it fascinating which post wins the typepad “lotto” …
BTW. Dmity Medvedev congratulations to the lettuce on twitter…. Ooooooh the twitterverse didn’t like that.
But it shows Maria + Lavrov aren’t the only trolls in the Russian govt. ….
Wouldn’t be fascinating if in retirement they and Putin write absolutely tell all books.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 20 2022 23:55 utc | 112

Libertarianism is just another ism that sounds good but falters in practice. Capital feeds on itself and thus before long you have monopolies and the pillar of capitalism – competition – ceases to exist. Then to keep the impoverished masses in line governments need to install fear and crush civil liberties – going against the very ideal of libertarianism. This is what happened in Chile and other South American countries that experimented with full free market. Not much different in the failures of communism. The people in charge quickly lose their ideals to stay in power. Marx abhorred large government – a tool of the upper class by nature – but communism has always resulted in it.

Posted by: GS | Oct 20 2022 23:56 utc | 113

Still with the “libertarian zeal” bullshit, b?
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 20 2022 22:17 utc | 102

Oh, look, some “Libertarian” freedom fighter!
What the heck does this fringe movement even want? What did they ever achieve? Do you need a hug, Hack?

Posted by: Ricardo Ramirez | Oct 21 2022 0:08 utc | 114

superb (humourous) summary here:
Anyway, I sincerely hope you are right. That Trump is for real. That he can refashion the RINO Party, take both Houses, get re-elected, disband the FBI, CIA and Federal Reserve, close down all the foreign bases, create a real money system, revive US manufacturing, make peace with Eurasia, get out of Europe, stop meddling in Latin America, fire all the Deep State federal employees, stop corporate campaign corruption, get back to paper ballots, reduce DC personnel by at least 50%, decentralize most Federal Departments and eliminate about 75% of them, drill baby drill, revive infrastructure to rival Shanghai, lift up the inner cities, get rid of woke and cancel cultures and all the rest of it. Wouldn’t it be grand?
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 20 2022 21:16 utc | 98
You overlooked stopping illegal immigration at the borders and kicking out all the illegal aliens in the country (is that 20 or 30 million people?)
It’s a list like Brexit was going to fix in the UK … also by magic.

Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 21 2022 0:51 utc | 115

Anyway, I sincerely hope you are right. That Trump is for real. That he can refashion the RINO Party, take both Houses, get re-elected, disband the FBI, CIA and Federal Reserve, close down all the foreign bases, create a real money system, revive US manufacturing, make peace with Eurasia, get out of Europe, stop meddling in Latin America, fire all the Deep State federal employees, stop corporate campaign corruption, get back to paper ballots, reduce DC personnel by at least 50%, decentralize most Federal Departments and eliminate about 75% of them, drill baby drill, revive infrastructure to rival Shanghai, lift up the inner cities, get rid of woke and cancel cultures and all the rest of it. Wouldn’t it be grand?
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 20 2022 21:16 utc | 98

And you left out “Codify abortion ban across the country”.
And you also left out “Ban all talk about climate change.” before “drill baby drill”
Question, how do you envision Trump or his loyal peeps “get rid of woke and cancel cultures and all the rest of it.”? Would that be like denazifying Ukraine? Simply asking….

Posted by: Norogene | Oct 21 2022 1:01 utc | 116

The good citizens of Rostov and Voronezh can now sleep soundly.

Posted by: B. Wildered | Oct 21 2022 3:13 utc | 117

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 20 2022 19:02 utc | 80
“with male researchers”
Brings a new shade of meaning to pol(l)ing the electorate.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 21 2022 3:25 utc | 118

Posted by: Muthaucker | Oct 20 2022 19:37 utc | 85
Firstly, it’s because he’s a corrupt prick, and secondly (and most importantly) because he’s not the deep-states’ preferred flavour of corrupt prick.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 21 2022 3:30 utc | 119

Is this good or bad for MAGA?

Posted by: Don T | Oct 21 2022 3:46 utc | 120

@b
I suspect that Elensky will be looking for a new job in the near future. He is apparently better at PR than Bojo or Truss and can hardly be less capable of demolishing what is left of the UK. Not only that, but the British and Americans seem to love him. He may well be the Tory’s last best hope.

Posted by: Hermit | Oct 21 2022 3:55 utc | 121

@Rod 96
The US has never “baled Europe out”. What the USA has done is use their post-war control of the international banking system to extract vast wealth from Europe while cementing their control over Europe. Today is he USA cannot hope to bail-out even a leaky canoe, and Europe is already too far underwater for anything but salvage and fire-sales.

Posted by: Hermit | Oct 21 2022 4:02 utc | 122

@ 117 uncensored
I haven’t gotten one shiny dime from the EU over gas prices and taxes.
If you ask me, Macaroni, Sgt Schultz, and whatever bimbo is running the UK today,
( I miss Boris, great guy),
are making out like bandits. Glorious bandits!
We should be all in on MEUMBA. Make the EU My Bitch Again.
And I’ll make sure they all go to jail. Trust me.
Jail, with a capital G

Posted by: Don T | Oct 21 2022 4:05 utc | 123

So the lettuce is the new Prime Minister. Defnitely an improvement on its predecessors.

Posted by: RoHa | Oct 21 2022 4:16 utc | 124

@Scorpion 107
The Republic has succeeded far beyond the dreams of the avaricious oligarchs who founded it in order to prevent democracy and retain all real power in their own trustworthy hands. See my The USA is an Oligarchy at the Greanville Post and Chomsky, Noam. Understanding Power: The Indispensible Chomsky (pp. 132-133) cited iny footnotes (ibid.) “The principles of the Founding Fathers were rather nicely expressed by John Jay, the head of the Constitutional Convention and the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. His favorite maxim was, “The people who own the country ought to govern it”—that’s the principle on which the United States was founded. The major framer of the Constitution, James Madison, emphasized very clearly in the debates at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 that the whole system must be designed, as he put it, “to protect the minority of the opulent from the majority”—that’s the primary purpose of the government, he said. Now, Madison had kind of a theory behind that, which was that the “minority of the opulent” would be elevated Enlightenment gentlemen, who would act like some kind of ancient Roman republicans of his imagination—benevolent philosophers who would use their opulence to benefit everybody in the country. But he himself quickly recognized that that was a serious delusion, and within about ten years he was bitterly denouncing what he called the “daring depravity of the times” as “the minority of the opulent” were using their power to smash everyone else in the face.”

Posted by: Hermit | Oct 21 2022 4:24 utc | 125

During the Brexit saga Steve Bell produced a brilliant cartoon of Theresa May dressed in black and white Harlequin Fool clothes, struggling to work out the meaning of Macron’s words, ” Ferk Oeuf ! ”
As it slowly dawns on her that the EU is not going to let Britain ‘ pick and choose ‘.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 21 2022 4:54 utc | 126

The king should just dissolve parliament and start over.. new elections, sitting parliament members don’t get to run for re election given how badly they have mucked up the country

Posted by: Oldcutlas | Oct 21 2022 5:02 utc | 127

@ Oldcutlas | Oct 21 2022 5:02 utc | 128 who seems to be saying the the structure of government is fine but there are just some “bad apples” in charge today.
Seems a bit delusional to think King Chuck would do this but those sitting parliament members have mucked up not just the country and the Commonwealth but much of the rest of the world they have “touched” over the centuries.
Just maybe, there are structural problems with the top down form of jackboot applied by global private finance and they really are not doing God’s work.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2022 5:28 utc | 128

The UK is similar to Australia in that the parties are poll driven, they rotate leaders trying to gain a few percentage points as each begins to disgust the electorate with their ineptitude. Also similar in that both parties are woke, full of WEF young leaders, are seeking green energy destitution, and that no decent leaders are on offer. All we get now are imbeciles and stooges, that isn’t democracy but a rigged sham.

Posted by: Organic | Oct 21 2022 5:42 utc | 129

Just found a completely unredacted list.
https://twitter.com/wilbur_munch/status/1289870129950425088/photo/1
The MP that the lettuce had an affair with was Kwasi Kwarteng.

Posted by: Ranelagh | Oct 21 2022 7:34 utc | 130

Observer,
And the first thing you do is a clumsy attempt at deflection.
You just proved, again, that talking with a “libertarian” zealot is just like discussing history with a wahhabi fanatic, a massive waste of time.
Go on and keep living in denial, I’m sure one of these days the invisible hand of the market will recognize your faith and reward you. /s

Posted by: Sumguy | Oct 21 2022 8:22 utc | 131

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Oct 20 2022 21:09 utc | 93
I didn’t know Truss had the reputation of being promiscuous. Is that true, or are you just exaggerating for effect? She had a somewhat geeky nerdy reputation at High School , I’m told, so did she overcompensate on entering adulthood?

Posted by: Brother Ma | Oct 21 2022 9:35 utc | 132

Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 20 2022 22:38 utc | 103
Why would the Elite allow the choice of a Prime Minister to the ranks of Conservative party members? Surely , the fewer the electors and the fact they are already in power means the elite would know which way they will vote.
Unless, I misunderstood you, it seems you are implying that the Elite really wanted Sunak, but got cheated by having to listen to the rank and file.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 20 2022 23:08 utc | 106
That Aus diplomat was as you know, ex-Aus PM, Ex Foreign Minister and eternal failure and bubbler extraordinaire Mr Downer. He also wear stockings too ,but don’t tell anyone.Yep. He is no stranger to closets.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Oct 21 2022 10:01 utc | 133

Ranelagh | Oct 21 2022 7:34 utc | 131
Thank you!
Now, let’s talk about how those of you arrogant, sexually obsessed Puritan moral prosecutors and your precious little self-esteem ENABLE THIS VERY STATE BLACKMAIL and why the correct solution is to kick the Puritan enablers in the dick until their children can no longer reproduce.

Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 21 2022 11:25 utc | 134

B, take a victory lap on predictions in UK!
You nailed it.

Posted by: horatio | Oct 21 2022 11:46 utc | 135

110 & 111, DID & TQC
If you believe anything that appears on HBO you might as well worship NYT & NPR.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 21 2022 13:13 utc | 136

Thank you for your service, Comrade Truss!
In 45 days our agent has achieved amazing results:
— Destroyed the UK economy;
— The Conservative Party was destroyed;
— Queen Elizabeth II was sent to rest;
— Increased corporate income taxes;
— Increased government loans;
— Unsuccessful economic reform;

She even looks good with the KGB uniform.
https://t.me/c/1575571274/6133

Posted by: Paco | Oct 21 2022 15:03 utc | 137

Lettuce in a wig projected onto the Houses of Parliament in London.
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/35609

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 21 2022 15:18 utc | 138

“Anyway, I sincerely hope you are right. That Trump is for real. That he can refashion the RINO Party, take both Houses, get re-elected, disband the FBI, CIA and Federal Reserve, close down all the foreign bases, create a real money system, revive US manufacturing, make peace with Eurasia, get out of Europe, stop meddling in Latin America, fire all the Deep State federal employees, stop corporate campaign corruption, get back to paper ballots, reduce DC personnel by at least 50%, decentralize most Federal Departments and eliminate about 75% of them, drill baby drill, revive infrastructure to rival Shanghai, lift up the inner cities, get rid of woke and cancel cultures and all the rest of it. Wouldn’t it be grand?”
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 20 2022 21:16 utc | 98

Yeah, you should call that delusion: Hope and Change 2.0.
It’s more Change That You Can’t Believe in for American sheeple (Red State faction) to follow.
The only way that fundamental change is going to happen in the USA is a Second American Civil War.
Nothing less.

Posted by: ak74 | Oct 21 2022 19:29 utc | 139

Priceless political characterization of Liz Truss disasterous political tenure – “dog s–t”
https://youtu.be/aIh7XJVxCAY

Posted by: ptownpt | Oct 21 2022 21:27 utc | 140

Actually only 43% of the UK voted Tory
Posted by: Red Star | Oct 20 2022 21:15 utc | 95
What percentage voted Labour?

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Oct 22 2022 0:11 utc | 141

Either way, it seems that both Trump and BoJo are false populist leaders, DJT promising to Make American Great Again whereas in fact the Republic lost all semblance of being one under his watch (though still he is supported), and BoJo promising to Make Britain Sovereign again, though it seems as such the Tory Party is determined to make that absolutely impossible unless insofar as it is the City who will be sovereign again, the British people and traditional British culture be damned
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 20 2022 16:46 utc | 65
There are forces at work beyond the power of any individual to reshape. This is the fallacy of king-making. Now we’re going to have to rebuild the people’s purple army. For many years, it was led by Nigel Farage. Now he’s saying he can’t do it alone. He says it needs a number of the big players from the tory party to strike out with a new offer along with him. There’s certainly a lot of strong feeling out in the contry that a radical change to current party politics is needed.
What Nigel Farage needs to realise, is it’s the mass of ordinary people’s courage and passion for change which generated the momentum for Brexit, not the politician’s adopted standpoints.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Oct 22 2022 0:24 utc | 142

Just a quick note of evolving Reuters propaganda about replacement PM
Boris now seems to be the front runner and think about what that says about the state of the UK government.
What is King Chuck going to do? I personally think that monarchy is the myth face curtain in front of the global private finance cult. That said, King Chuck and Pope Frank are likely members of the God of Mammon cult and I haven’t a clue who the others might be.
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and the smell is way beyond old lettuce, IMO

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 22 2022 0:45 utc | 143

Sumguy | Oct 20 2022 15:37 utc | 51
I like to use the disparagements:
Libretardarian or LOLbertarian.

Posted by: Mann Friedmann | Oct 23 2022 19:33 utc | 144

You wrote on Liz Truss: “Her incompetence and libertarian zeal nearly killed the British Pound,” indicating that Liz Truss caused this economic development.
However, Alexander Mercouris of the The Duran points out that the crisis was deliberately caused by the Bank of England on the behalf of the deep state in the UK trying to install somebody else than Liz Truss who is better in maintaining power, i.e., a regime change plot in the UK.
Also Dagmar Henn on RT DE (the German version of RT) refers to this analysis: “Beobachter wie Alexander Mercouris von The Duran gehen davon aus, dass, gleich, wer bei den Konservativen “gewinnt”, das höchstens eine Zwischenlösung sein wird, da die Bank of England vermutlich auf einen Wechsel der regierenden Partei setzt. Das ergibt in gewisser Weise auch Sinn, weil eine Labour-Regierung die Gewerkschaften eher ruhigstellen kann, die in den letzten Monaten schon mehrere größere Streiks organisiert hatten.” (https://de.rt.com/meinung/152193-olympiade-der-salatkoepfe-grossbritannien-nach-liz-truss/ – published 22 Oct. 2022 16:36)
Machine translation: “Observers such as The Duran’s Alexander Mercouris believe that whoever “wins” on the Conservatives will be temporary at best, as the Bank of England is likely to be looking to a change of ruling party. It makes sense in a way, too, given that a Labor government is more likely to pacify unions, which have organized several major strikes in recent months.”
See:
The Duran
Regime change plot in UK. Dark times ahead
Oct. 13, 2022.
https://youtu.be/vKsfyNGJTrg?t=152
Transcript starting at 2:32 minutes:
“and then things seemed for a few short days to get quieter and then on Monday everything changed and what changed on Monday was that the government of the bank of England Andrew Bailey came out and made a statement and he said that the bank of England was going to stop its intervention in the bond market on Friday that was the date that had been previously given but everybody assumed that it would go on Beyond Friday but he said that it would stop on Friday and that was already alarming enough for the markets but then he went on and said something else he said that Pension funds British Pension funds which have all kinds of problems because of the way in which they’ve done their various things in the bond markets therefore only have until Friday to close their positions now that was an extraordinary thing to say and of course what he did was is it restarted the entire crisis Sterling crashed well if it lost you know money against the dollar it lost its position against the dollar uh situation on the bond markets erupted and of course conservative MPS um started to come back and talk about the need for a change of course and the bank of England pretended to go back on some of the things that the governor the bank of England had said but did so in a very half-hearted way”

Posted by: K. | Oct 24 2022 21:56 utc | 145

Harry terms | Oct 20 2022 21:16 utc | 97
No-one likely to be given an opportunity is willing to do what would be necessary to salvage the UK from terminal decline.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 25 2022 21:03 utc | 146

Red Star | Oct 20 2022 21:15 utc | 95
At least Johnson’s tories got more votes than any other party. In Canada for the last two elections the party that has held government came second in the popular vote.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Oct 25 2022 21:05 utc | 147