Blinken Falsely Blames China For U.S. Hostility Directed At It
On Monday U.S. Secretary of State Tony Blinken made a curious remark:
China plans to seize Taiwan on ‘much faster timeline,’ Blinken says
Secretary of State Antony Blinken accused China of speeding up plans to seize Taiwan as Chinese President Xi Jinping looks set to secure a precedent-breaking third term at a Chinese Communist Party congress this week.“There has been a change in the approach from Beijing toward Taiwan in recent years,” Blinken told an event at Stanford University on Monday. This includes “a fundamental decision that the status quo was no longer acceptable and that Beijing was determined to pursue reunification on a much faster timeline,” he said. Blinken did not provide details about the claim of a shorter timeline and said China may be willing to use coercive means, a prospect that is “creating tremendous tensions.”
The Washington Post writer who formulated the above seems to be astonished that Blinken said such: "Blinken did not provide details about the claim of a shorter timeline ..."
So am I. There is no evidence for Blinken's claim. President Xi has recently touched on Taiwan is his opening speech to the 20th National Congress of Communist Party of China. But the first part of his remark was purely factual:
"In the face of serious provocations from separatist activities by Taiwan independence forces and interference in Taiwan affairs by external forces, we have resolutely waged a major struggle against separatism and interference, demonstrating our strong determination and ability to safeguard national sovereignty and territorial integrity and oppose Taiwan independence."
The more important second part about reunification was boilerplate and did not differ from previous formulations:
"We persist in striving for the prospect of peaceful reunification with the greatest sincerity. However, there is no commitment to renounce the use of force and the option to take all necessary measures is retained.""The historical wheels of the rejuvenation of the nationalities are rolling forward and the complete reunification of the motherland must be realised and can certainly be realised."
It is though that China will seek the reunification with Taiwan some time before 2049, the hundred year anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China. That is still a few years out and certainly not of imminent concern.
There is nothing in Xi's speech that points to any 'speeding up' towards reunification.
There is also no 'change in the approach from Beijing toward Taiwan in recent years' as Blinken claims.
The only change has been on the U.S. side. It was Blinken who was hostile during his first meeting with China's foreign minister in Alaska. It was his boss Biden who said four times that the U.S. would defend Taiwan militarily, a breach of standing agreements with China. Every time the White House later pulled back on Biden's claim. It were also Biden and Blinken who let the Speaker of the House travel to Taiwan. That move was inappropriate as Pelosi is second in the presidential line of succession.
It were also Biden and Blinken who recently went nuclear with sanctions on China's chip industry:
Every American executive and engineer working in China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry resigned yesterday, paralyzing Chinese manufacturing overnight. One round of sanctions from Biden did more damage than all four years of performative sanctioning under Trump.
Although American semiconductor exporters had to apply for licenses during the Trump years, licenses were approved within a month. With the new Biden sanctions, all American suppliers of IP blocks, components, and services departed overnight —— thus cutting off all service [to China].
Long story short, every advanced node semiconductor company is currently facing comprehensive supply cut-off, resignations from all American staff, and immediate operations paralysis. This is what annihilation looks like: China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry was reduced to zero overnight. Complete collapse. No chance of survival.
In the short term Biden's move will increase the current supply constrains and thereby also increase inflation. In the long term it is likely to hurt the U.S. more than it will hurt China which will now build a completely independent chip industry.
But the sudden sanction move can also be seen as a declaration of war:
[W]hile the announcement was a complete surprise, it does fit with the much more extensive list of hostile US actions towards China in the last few months. Some of these include:
- Multiple US delegations (Nancy Pelosi and other sitting Congressmen) traveled to Taiwan to challenge the One-China policy that has been the cornerstone for normal relations between the two countries for the last 40 years.
- Two US warships sail through strait, BBC
- US-India maneuvers on the India-China border
- The Biden Administration’s persistent determination to provide South Korea with a lethal missile defence system that can be used for offensive purposes and which threatens Chinese security
- The relentless strengthening of an “anti-China” coalition
- Two U.S. carrier groups conduct exercises in South China Sea
- And, now –according to the Financial Times– The EU is being urged to rethink its China policy
While in no way exhaustive, the list should give the reader some sense of the uptick in belligerence that is presently aimed at Beijing. Hectoring China has become a full-time job which is not entirely unexpected as US-China “containment” policy dates back as far as the Cold War.
What’s different now –as Biden’s 2022 National Security Strategy indicates– is that the US sees itself in the midst of a “great power struggle” in which the primary enemy is China who is regarded as “the only competitor with both the intent and, increasingly, the capability to reshape the international order.” (NSS)
In other words, the Biden administration is admitting that we are at war with China and that we must use any means necessary to prevail in that conflict. As foreign policy analyst Andre Damon recently noted, the NSS is not a strategy for the defense of the Republic but a “blueprint for World War 3”.
When Blinken is lying about the alleged 'much faster timeline' Beijing does not have, he is trying to blame China for the change in a U.S.-China relationship that has suddenly became outright hostile.
But that change has come solely from the U.S. side.
Posted by b on October 19, 2022 at 15:53 UTC | Permalink
next page »Earth, enjoy the dark ages again, they are yours courtesy of US.
There are no signs that reality is imposing upon the war crowd, except what leaks out courtesy of people that still show signs of sanity and want everyone to know how chaos reigns supreme. Some nations are well prepared because they don't follow the American way. This might give some a reason for thought on the prospects of a life that is in now way what you planned for but have to adapt to.
When the western nations begin to wander away from the orders they get from on high, things will change. But how will they change?
Posted by: Tard | Oct 19 2022 16:09 utc | 2
Scott Ritter speaks here very good, mostly the Ukraine, Russia and EU situation, but also a little from Taiwan. China can wait, because the EU is making economic suicide and with that the EU and Nato will collapse. After that USA is much weaker. And after that Taiwan will then understand, that a deal with China is quite good for it.
https://www.rokfin.com/stream/24251?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=Campaign&utm_campaign=New+Post+Email
Posted by: Mikkael | Oct 19 2022 16:14 utc | 3
Pepe Escobar notes that Xi has reiterated his determination to reunify Taiwan with China, and he has reserved the right to use force:
https://www.unz.com/pescobar/china-xi-gets-ready-for-the-final-countdown/
I think the implications are that a move to forcibly reunify Taiwan and China in the near future is likely to happen. It will definitely happen during Xi's next term in office.
Posted by: bob sykes | Oct 19 2022 16:15 utc | 4
NATO / US sociopaths will keep creating more and more chaos until they are stopped.
I hold out little hope for the EU.
Remember that in 1944/45 most of Germany was a smoking ruin - yet the population remained loyal, half of them convinced that the "Endsieg" was just around the corner.
The EU in particular still has a very high degree of wealth which will take a long time to run dry.
The weakness of alternative regimes like China etc. is that they don't seem to understand the need to employ psychopaths to defeat sociopaths - mercilessly.
Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 19 2022 16:19 utc | 5
This is from today's news:
United States is negotiating with Taiwan on the joint production of American weapons
Posted by: rk | Oct 19 2022 16:20 utc | 6
Interesting stuff, b. The United States knows nothing but aggression and violence. And as we see both China and Russia pushing back, and the Empire of Lies is forced to reduce its imperial footprint, that aggression and violence is used to keep what remains of the empire in line, especially its own citizens.
Blinken, as an official in the United States government, is a good representation of the incestuous mediocrity that permeates all elites at the end of history.
Posted by: gottlieb | Oct 19 2022 16:23 utc | 7
Barflies,
Help me out - why would all American Citizen-Expats working for American chip companies in the PRX resign ?
Posted by: Exile | Oct 19 2022 16:25 utc | 8
psychohistorian@1
And right in the middle of the quinquennial Communist Party Congress. Is there any chance that Washington is trying to influence the Politburo election?
This bears all the marks of an action designed to make Biden etc look strong and determined but without allowing the electorate to understand the immediate consequences which are likely to be chaotic. Though the extent of the chaos will not become clear in time for November.
It will be interesting to see how India reacts.
Posted by: bevin | Oct 19 2022 16:27 utc | 9
Time to sell Taiwan.
Reuters reports:
U.S. Speaker Pelosi's husband sold Nvidia, Micron options at a loss
Oct 17 (Reuters) - U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband sold call options in chipmakers Micron Technology (MU.O) and Nvidia (NVDA.O) for a loss of under $1 million, according to a new transparency filing.In a periodic transaction report dated Friday, the senior Democrat disclosed that her husband, financier Paul Pelosi, lost $392,575 in the sale of Micron call options he had purchased in December 2021. The report also showed he sold Nvidia call options bought in July 2021 for a loss of $361,476.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 19 2022 16:27 utc | 10
That makes three things being slow walked.
China on it's approaches to Taiwan, keeping the Pacific Fleet sailing around in circles for months.
Russia taking it's time in Ukraine, were they waiting for the provocation or was winter always going to be the time?
And President Trump dragging out the consequences of the raid on Mar a Lago for all it's worth.
It looks like they're all going to reach their crescendo around the same time.
Pure coincidence no doubt.
Posted by: Orchard1 | Oct 19 2022 16:45 utc | 11
Looks like the DNC is getting increasingly desperate to distract the American public and avoid the unavoidable disaster in midterms next month. False flag terrorist attacks are going to happen shortly.
Posted by: Sumguy | Oct 19 2022 16:52 utc | 12
Is anyone even surprised that the US is once again projecting onto others that which it is either doing or thinking?
Posted by: Et Tu | Oct 19 2022 16:52 utc | 13
This latest escalation has been in the works for quite some time, certainly since the DPP was first elected 2016/17. They are the willing locals to ally and coordinate with the U.S. and other interested regional players (Japan, Australia, et al). Their independence and confrontation policies do not necessarily represent the wishes of Taiwan's peoples, who would rather not see their island militarized and de-coupled from the mainland. The Hong Kong protests in 2019 were part of this larger opp, as the crackdown they provoked was used by DPP to secure their latest term. It's hard not to see Taiwan being used as a wedge, just like Ukraine. It appears the intention is to goad the PRC into acting excessively so it can be isolated internationally. There is no means to militarily "win" Taiwan away from PRC or even successively "defend" against a concerted attack. Look at the map.
Over the course of about eight years, the U.S. National Security Strategy has seamlessly moved from ISIS to Russia to China as the singular villain and focus of attention, and the chattering Twitter mob has moved right along with it without a hint of self-awareness.
Posted by: jayc | Oct 19 2022 16:56 utc | 14
"China plans to seize Taiwan on ‘much faster timeline,’ Blinken says"
In other words, the US is planning on aggressively violating China's "red lines" and forcing a military confrontation in the very near future. Kinda like the shrieking last year about Russia planning to invade the Ukraine really meant that the US was planning for its proxy forces there to commit crimes that would force Russia to respond militarily.
The Swamp creatures are not very bright so they are easy to read.
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 19 2022 17:00 utc | 15
Here we have another analysis showing that a major spokesman for the US/West is a lying, fabricating, deceptive, narrative manufacturing, shit-weasel. Yawn. For the life of me I cannot understand value of wasting thought and energy on addressing this sort of thing. Truss, Scholz, Van der Lyden, Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, Petraeus, Harris, and virtually every MSM expert are pushing false narratives. That's what they do for a living. That's what they are hired to do. That's what they are paid to do. They do not offer truth or insight; that's by design. It's like pointing out over and over again that termites eat wood. Well, that's what termites do. These people are not the decision-makers or actual planners. They are the front men/women. They only reason to refute them is to demonstrate they are liars. But everyone in this forum already knows this. If only we could reach the millions who listen and believe via the mass media. But we can't, because we are blocked and censored in that realm. At a certain point this sort of critique itself becomes part of the planned distraction. Or perhaps at a certain point it just feels good to scream into the darkness. But this is a self-indulgent, and ultimately a waste of time and energy.
Posted by: Rodrigo | Oct 19 2022 17:08 utc | 16
I've noticed that they appear much more disturbed when they appear on camera as of late...as if they were being prodded or forced to go in a direction that their self preservation is telling them not to. Perhaps they wont be as safe as they once thought they would be when they try to bring the house down....
Posted by: Chevrus | Oct 19 2022 17:11 utc | 17
that Beijing was determined to pursue reunification on a much faster timeline,” [ Blinken] said.
But WaPo title is
China plans to seize Taiwan on ‘much faster timeline,’ Blinken says
....
"speaks with a forked tongue" means to deliberately say one thing and mean another or, to be hypocritical, or act in a duplicitous manner. In the longstanding tradition of many Native American tribes, "speaking with a forked tongue" has meant lying, and a person was no longer considered worthy of trust, once he had been shown to "speak with a forked tongue
Posted by: La Bastille | Oct 19 2022 17:13 utc | 18
Could it be the US is pushing China to attack Taiwan with its latest move regarding semiconductors? China might be desperate for Taiwan's expertise...
Posted by: Canuckian | Oct 19 2022 17:14 utc | 19
The US "conquering" China is quite fanciful. Where would they put it?
(Mao said winning the war was his greatest achievement. Someone tell Biden, Blinken and Pelosi.)
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Oct 19 2022 17:18 utc | 20
@William Gruff | Oct 19 2022 17:00 utc | 15
According to quote in WaPo, Blinken did not say that.
Posted by: La Bastille | Oct 19 2022 17:22 utc | 21
The weakness of alternative regimes like China etc. is that they don't seem to understand the need to employ psychopaths to defeat sociopaths - mercilessly.
Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 19 2022 16:19 utc | 5
Ha ha ha!
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 19 2022 17:23 utc | 22
Below is a posting title from ZH that Blinken and crew don't wan't you to see
Ugly, Tailing 20Y Auction Prices At Highest Yield On Record As Foreign Buyers Flee
The other day there was a 10Y auction and Foreign buyers were weak in that one as well. This is the canary in the coal mine......smart money going out of US dollars and still no confirmation on the story from Doctorow
In today’s brief live interview on Press TV, I was given the opportunity to evaluate the newly announced decision of the Saudis to exclude representatives of the U.S. Government from their annual investment conference planned for the 25th of this month. I place this decision in the broader context of Saudi and the Gulf States’ realignment these past several months away from the global hegemon that has been their traditional security guarantor and towards partnership with Russia in creation of a multi-polar world.
The counterpart of this new Saudi policy is de-dollarization. Given the historic role of the Petrodollar going back to the 1970s in securing the dollar’s position as global reserve currency, the implications of a shift to bilateral petroleum trading in local currencies by the Saudis holds great importance for compelling the world’s biggest debtor to start paying for its wars and other extravagances from its own pocket and not from the pockets of the Rest of the World. This process may now move much more quickly than American financial analysts have assumed.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 19 2022 17:30 utc | 23
This article I linked yesterday discussed part of China's chip industry that's becoming a global leader; so, the tweet saying China's chip industry was devastated is bullshit. I also suggest reading this report that "shows talented professionals in high demand in high-tech manufacturing-related industries" which provides a picture of China decidedly opposite of the one painted by Western Propaganda. Plus, there're all those STEM grads being produced on a yearly basis that boost China's overall Capital Account. The new policy devices of Development and Modernization are for both domestic and foreign policy use, which are devices no Western nation can deploy. I wrote about the Development aspect here and intend to follow that with its Modernization complement. Here's a hint from the Modernization link above:
"While acknowledging and praising the remarkable achievements China has made under the leadership of the CPC, international observers believe Chinese modernization, emphasized in the report to the 20th CPC National Congress on Sunday, will expand the way for developing countries to move towards modernization and provide a brand new successful reference for them to strive for their own development goals suiting their own national conditions."
Combined, they become China's version of the Alliance for Progress, a program JFK touted 60 years ago that was dropped by LBJ in favor of a more aggressive Washington Consensus. This new policy tactic is in response to what this editorial describes, "US’ ‘decoupling’ push endangers world stability. Can Washington see it?". What Blinken and Sullivan want fits neatly into Pepe Escobar's derisive description Empire of Chaos as the Neoliberal Parasites believe they are capable of riding out the global chaos they are engineering. China, Russia and RoW's goal is to defeat the attempt to sow chaos by finally putting the Outlaw US Empire into history's dustbin.
The Democrats promised that Biden would be the second coming of FDR. And people thought that the old whore from Delaware was talking about a New Deal.
What he really meant was that, just as the oil sanctions made war inevitable in 1941, he is bent on war with China.
As well as Russia.
And Iran.
And, just to even out the odds, he was going to impoverish and subvert his allies in the EU.
Posted by: bevin | Oct 19 2022 17:37 utc | 25
I’d like to second Exile @ 8. I thought the corporations ruled the government not the other way around?
Alaska? Is it in the game? It’s seemed impossible to me for years now (no evidence at all though) that the US will be able to keep hold of it, given their downfall.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-arctic-territories-russia-china/
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 19 2022 17:40 utc | 26
Canuckian | Oct 19 2022 17:14 utc | 19
For information on the semi conductor thingy – read - even dumber than NOPEC or a price cap is the 'attack' on China chips
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202210/1277405.shtml
Commentary, even from pro US sites, the Asia Times is only marginally less RoW is insane than the NYT, seems to think this so called anti China move is like shooting yourself in the face after already shooting your self in the face with the anti Russia sanctions
"The damage to capital investment and R&D in the Western semiconductor industry will exceed Washington’s modest subsidies for the chip industry by a factor of five or more.
The US measures won’t affect China’s sensors, satellite surveillance, military guidance and other strategic systems because the vast majority of military applications use older chips that China can produce at home. But it may postpone autonomous driving, cloud computing and other efforts to digitize China’s economy.
It will also elicit an all-out Chinese effort to replace American chip-making and design technology. CapEx and R&D will shrink drastically in the US semiconductor industry while China allocates a massive budget to the sector."
https://asiatimes.com/2022/10/china-chip-ban-a-us-exercise-in-extreme-self-harm/
This guy thinks the US is totally nuts
« So, it could all backfire like the poorly thought-out sanctions on Russia that have thrust all Europe into an unprecedented energy crisis?
Yep, that’s what he’s saying. The new rules will cause China some short-term pain but—in the long run—they will only hurt American industry. It’s another classic example of ‘cutting off your nose to spite your face’, which appears to be Biden’s MO on a great number of issues.
It’s worth noting, that the Biden plan is another giant leap towards “de-globalization. (which is the reimposing of cross-border trade barriers in order to prevent further economic integration and lower costs.) For decades, business and political leaders have been touting the virtues of offshoring businesses and outsourcing jobs as if that was the true expression of God’s divine plan. But now that China’s growth threatens US global hegemony, foreign policy elites have done a quick 180. Now the globalization genie must be drawn-and-quartered and shoved back into his bottle so the West can preserve its primacy by effectively divorcing itself from the Chinese powerhouse. » »
https://www.eurasiareview.com/19102022-bidens-tech-war-goes-nuclear-oped/
Posted by: Gerrard White | Oct 19 2022 17:45 utc | 27
Blinken's wife looks after Biden directly. Blinken's sister, Leah Pisar looked after Bill Clinton. Blinken's dad, Samuel Pisar worked at the UN in 1950, joined JFK cabinet cerca 1960. Sam Pisar received Congressional Honorary US citizenship. He remained an advisor to Presidents apparently until his death.
In addition to Blinken's wife, there are several other relatives with positions in the Biden WH.
Epstein had thirteen different phone numbers for Sam Pisar in his phone book.
Ghislaine Maxwell, around the same age as Antony Blinken. Her father and Sam were very close. Sam was Robert Maxwell's atty.
Very busy families.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Oct 19 2022 17:50 utc | 28
The weakness of alternative regimes like China etc. is that they don't seem to understand the need to employ psychopaths to defeat sociopaths - mercilessly.
Posted by: moaobserver | Oct 19 2022 16:19 utc | 5
Ha ha ha!
Posted by: Scorpion | Oct 19 2022 17:23 utc | 22
Like with application of torture, there are long term detrimental effect. Working with psychopaths (including torturers) skews your perspective away from rationality, and in semi-free society, creates negative selection for people in charge -- you need to enjoy those sick games, otherwise you get too depressed to function as a politician, agency head etc. (And in a society that is at least semi-free, you have other options.)
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 19 2022 17:58 utc | 29
Below is a Reuters posting title showing more word bending like Blinken
EXCLUSIVE U.S. says Russia oil price cap will not be aimed at OPEC
It won't work anyway but just how do they target Russia only?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 19 2022 17:58 utc | 30
typical Blinken. if the narrative called for it, he would claim the US wars on Grenada and Panama were defensive.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Oct 19 2022 18:00 utc | 31
I have a longshot theory that COVID was cooked up in Taiwanese and Ukrainian biolabs and "they" tried to frame Russia and China with. Russia and China had the "receipts" as they say and wanted reparations. They got it in the form of Ukrainian and Taiwanese territory, with Trump negotiating a deal that basically said "take it if you can, we won't get in your way."
Just a theory. I have nothing to support it.
Posted by: TempoNick | Oct 19 2022 18:27 utc | 32
Post 32 continued ... another part of the deal being decoupling from the US Dollar and SWIFT. (It seems curious that all of this is happening at the same time.)
Posted by: TempoNick | Oct 19 2022 18:30 utc | 33
@Exile #8
As I understand it - American citizens working in China in prohibited sectors will be prosecuted up to and including loss of citizenship.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 19 2022 18:33 utc | 34
Europe's latest sanctions on Russia have a WILD provision. If ANY tanker moves a Russian cargo outside of the price cap (assuming Europe adopts it), that ship will be barred from ALL future access to EU services (including insurance).
https://twitter.com/AlaricN/status/1582773866191290368
So, EU is now gifting shipping and insurance business to somewhere else. The world is changing.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 19 2022 18:34 utc | 35
c1ue | Oct 19 2022 18:33 utc | 34
The UN charter prohibits revocation of citizenship because it would create a stateless person, I thought. Not that such trifles matter to the rule-based international order. But I imagine China could probably paper it up relatively easily through asylum or a similar process.
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 19 2022 18:45 utc | 36
including loss of citizenship.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 19 2022 18:33 utc | 34
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US citizenship is odious. It usually costs $5k to denounce, if your taxes are paid up.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 19 2022 18:46 utc | 37
…..As I understand it - American citizens working in China in prohibited sectors will be prosecuted up to and including loss of citizenship.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 19 2022 18:33 utc | …….
???? That can not be legal; under what US law ??????
Posted by: Exile | Oct 19 2022 18:47 utc | 38
Or perhaps at a certain point it just feels good to scream into the darkness. But this is a self-indulgent, and ultimately a waste of time and energy.
Posted by: Rodrigo | Oct 19 2022 17:08 utc | 16
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Spot on my man, have a +1.
What you just described is why smart players eventually move to the winning side.
You can scream and yell all you want, but the masses simply do not have the cognitive ability for self rule.
After all, they were slaves/serfs since pre-history, and simply asserting they now have agency and free will is nothing more than a clever means of ruling via "democracy".
Then among brighter people we see this naive tendency towards placing faith in kumbaya, as if those states contesting to become the new hegemon will act any differently than the one now passing from history.
In fact, there's a poster here who even wrote about Washington's about face with respect to shay & whiskey, and most likely knows the story of gandhi, mandella, et al playing the passive resistance game, only to immediately deploy the force of state power once they assumed control.
Or is it really naivete? Perhaps it's just advance guard psych troops preparing the field for the logical conclusion that yes, putin, Xi are indeed nice guys interested in public good. Lol
Aye carumba! That's why it's much more sensible to literally just follow the money and plat along in a purely self serving manner.
For example, We all know the $usd is primed for detonation. What becomes of $28+ trillion as a mad scramble ensues to offload the worthless scrip? Even better, what happens to the holders?
Yep, a last parting gift of a shit sandwich to impoverish friends and enemies alike.
Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 19 2022 18:49 utc | 39
Patrick Lawrence is reduced to despair by these moves:
"...the just-announced law governing high-technology exports to China is an utterly undignified effort to prevent the Chinese from completing the classic climb up the development ladder all nations aspire to make.
The New York Times report on this topic had a couple of choice quotations from both sides sizing matters up.
Liu Pengyu, speaking for the Chinese embassy in Washington, told the Times Washington seeks “to use its technological prowess as an advantage to hobble and suppress the development of emerging markets and developing countries. The U.S. probably hopes that China and the rest of the developing world will forever stay at the lower end of the industrial chain.”
There is no denial of this on the American side, in case you were expecting any. Nobody in Washington is at all ashamed. “It is an aggressive approach by the U.S. government to start to really impair the capability of China to indigenously develop certain of these critical technologies,” commented Emily Kilcrease, who thinks it all through with those wonderful people at the Center for a New American Security.
"If we can’t compete with them, in other words, we will keep them down. As infra-dig policies go, this is down there with the worst.
"To be noted in this connection: Any effort to cooperate on transnational questions is canceled, rendered impossible, by the supposedly parallel thought that the U.S. must remain the world’s unchallenged hegemon. Theme one and theme two can coexist only on paper, not on the ground...."
Remember Edward Bernay's uncle?
"...Washington’s collective superego understands a new epoch in the human story has arrived. But its id is stuck in an obsessive-compulsive stage, anal-retentively clutching onto the power it wielded in the post–1945 decades like a child with a tattered security blanket. This document is the ego trying to translate the id’s irrationality into a version of presentable reason.
"Can’t be done..."
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/10/18/patrick-lawrence-grave-new-world/
Posted by: bevin | Oct 19 2022 18:55 utc | 40
"You can scream and yell all you want, but the masses simply do not have the cognitive ability for self rule.
"After all, they were slaves/serfs since pre-history, and simply asserting they now have agency and free will is nothing more than a clever means of ruling via "democracy". B9k9@39
And you? What were your ancestors? Lizards? Computers? Kings? I ask because the banality of your thoughts about democracy is outstanding: it's like listening to a bore at a party reading Bernard H Levy aloud.
Posted by: bevin | Oct 19 2022 19:01 utc | 41
This process may now move much more quickly than American financial analysts have assumed.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 19 2022 17:30 utc | 23
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This has been predicted for decades if for no other reason than once a state embarks on expansionary credit, it's simply a matter of time ...
Well, the entire globe of weaker, resource rich states sans Russia, China, India et al provided plenty of cushion since the 90s. But sadly, now the party really is coming to and end.
Ok, let's walk through the logic on a more personal scale: you are holding $10 million in US bonds. Soon, maybe even today, the purchasing power may begin a precipitous decline.
What do you do? Me personally? I'd buy real estate; maybe it could be sold later for roubles or whatever composite reserve currency emerges in the future. But for now I want *out*.
OK, now scale this up to $28 trillion plus the EU as well. The resulting mass exit is what students of history call "hyper inflation".
Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 19 2022 19:05 utc | 42
bevin @40--
Thanks for your comment. One can see that Xi and China's leadership saw this coming and developed policy ploys to counter and defeat it, not just for China but the entire developing world. What was once somewhat deniable during the Washington Consensus phase of keeping all other nations down is now overt policy that no nation can accept. The result will have RoW see China rising further in stature and esteem while the Outlaw US Empire sinks deeper into its immorality morass that will hasten its decline.
#23
This definitely has Blackrock & friends very worried. The Saudis are the curve ball the west wasn't ready for. Who could blame the Arabs? They don't fear the US military because their army is now chock full of ex US generals, admirals who presumably have let the cat out of the bag. The economies of the west are nose diving and their currencies are becoming worthless. Bit of a no brainer really for the Saudis.
Put yourself in the position of somebody who just inherited $100,000,000 net from their rich grandad banker. What does this poor person do with this money? How would you invest it safely and make a return?
The mighty dollar is becoming increasingly worthless week after week and the big boys on Wall Street are getting increasingly desperate. From the street that financed Lenin , Hitler and every major disaster since, it's time to prepare for a massive disaster of unheard of proportions.
Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Oct 19 2022 19:13 utc | 44
Biden is trying to be strong for the mid term but what difference does it make? None. The same sh.t.
America is heading into a nuclear war that will destroy North America and all of Europe.
If you don't believe me wait until china, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Hezbollah and and All the rest get involved.
The Jew owned White man did it to themselves.
"You can scream and yell all you want, but the masses simply do not have the cognitive ability for self rule.
"After all, they were slaves/serfs since pre-history, and simply asserting they now have agency and free will is nothing more than a clever means of ruling via "democracy". B9k9@39
And you? What were your ancestors? Lizards? Computers? Kings? I ask because the banality of your thoughts about democracy is outstanding: it's like listening to a bore at a party reading Bernard H Levy aloud.
Posted by: bevin | Oct 19 2022 19:01 utc | 41
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Rather than cognitive ability I think it's more a matter of predator vs. prey. Violent aggressive narcissistic types always seize control of the machinery of government and turn simple republics into violent autocratic states. I blame the psychopathic types preying on The People much more than I blame The People themselves. The People never seem to understand the monsters that want to control them.
Posted by: Biggus Dickus | Oct 19 2022 19:31 utc | 46
"But the sudden sanction move can also be seen as a declaration of war..."
It's perfectly true that economic sanctions are economic warfare, which is to say, warfare.
But it's not true at all that this is a "sudden" declaration of war, inasmuch as this siege warfare aimed at the people of China began under Trump.
Of course, there hasn't been any agreement in the commentariat that economic sanctions count as war, not even "hybrid" war, which is why Trump's attack on Iran was never admitted to be what it really was.
The notion that the Blinken attack was campaigning to make Biden look good is false if meant to imply Biden is trying to appeal to the racist imperialist mob. It is likely correct though if it is meant to appeal to those members of the donor class and petty bourgeois gentry types in the rural hinterlands who love Trump, an attempt to steal Trump's thunder. The media is unversally against Biden since Afghanistan however and it is doomed to fail as electoral tactics.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 19 2022 19:35 utc | 47
@Exile #8
As I understand it - American citizens working in China in prohibited sectors will be prosecuted up to and including loss of citizenship.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 19 2022 18:33 utc | 34
Check out the Tweet from reporter for WSJ.
https://twitter.com/lizalinwsj/status/1581847423218900992
1/ The impact of U.S. chip export controls towards China is more human than tech:
@WSJ combed thru corporate filings to identify 43 American senior executives in 16 listed Chinese chip firms. They now have to chose between their citizenship & for some, the startups they founded.
By what Laws is this possible. See:
International Rules Based Order Subsection 1.0
The USA makes all the rules.
International Rules Based Order Subsection 2.0
There is no subsection 2.0
Posted by: Erelis | Oct 19 2022 19:39 utc | 48
B9k9 | Oct 19 2022 18:49 utc | 39
> masses simply do not have the cognitive ability for self rule.
Well, don't form masses out of them, and don't form a state, and don't build a society around lame hunting myths, and you won't need to competitively flatter yourself with delusions of your own necessity to others. You won't have "Western civilization" (by which you almost certainly mean hard-authoritarian Calvinist culture) but nothing of real value would be lost.
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 19 2022 19:52 utc | 49
@46
Indeed. But we should make a distinction between sociopaths and psychopaths.
Psychopaths lack cognitive abilities such as compassion etc but mostly they lack the ability to fear. This makes them good soldiers - but they are not really interested in social manipulation. They are bored so they seek direct stimulation and risky situations.
Sociopaths - Cluster B - are different - they are driven by animal fear of the real self, so valorise in a childish way a false self - master race member, genius, gardener, alpha, male, girl boss, etc. They enjoy social manipulation and “hacking” the social hierarchy so as to demean and abuse others. Their cognitive limitations are used to their advantage. Their philosophy is usually a crude rendering of elitism such as Ayn Rand, or being “woke”.
Because the People are a trusting lot, sociopaths are very successful - from their point of view. Any group needs formal or informal leaders to coordinate - some of course love to elide leadership with a “natural” hierarchy, as cynically expressed by the above poster.
Society is based on trust, otherwise civilisation would break down. So sociopaths compete and cooperate with others like them for leadership positions.
The more successful they are at this the worse the long term prognosis for the society. Germany 1933-1945 springs to mind. Or the Yeltsin years…
Education and a scientific approach combining materialism with psychoanalysis is vital. For the CPC the jury is out.
Posted by: Moaobserver | Oct 19 2022 20:00 utc | 50
There is no denial of this on the American side, in case you were expecting any. Nobody in Washington is at all ashamed.
Posted by: bevin | Oct 19 2022 18:55 utc | 40
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As a teen, one dusky evening I was chatting to a group of attractive "girls". A friend mentioned they were lady boys, to which I then pestered one of them if it was true.
Eventually, with a hostile sneer he declared he was "more beautiful than any woman". Well, I got the truth alright; not sure I liked it.
I get the same impression here and a few other sites. We have these earnest commenters who so desperately want 'muricans to confess, to show remorse, admit shame, anything to satisfy their deep envy and resentment.
And what happens when someone just plainly admits what we're doing, what we have done, and what we plan on doing if we can continue to get away with it?
Look, here's a little bit of insight: the only reason there's any pro-russia sentiment in the usa is because the neocons turned on their previous supporters. Hence, enemy of my enemy...
Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 19 2022 20:03 utc | 51
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 19 2022 18:33 utc | 34
https://www.usa.gov/renounce-lose-citizenship
Renounce or Lose Your U.S. Citizenship
You will no longer be an American citizen if you voluntarily give up (renounce) your U.S. citizenship.
You might lose your U.S. citizenship in specific cases, including if you:
Run for public office in a foreign country (under certain conditions)
Enter military service in a foreign country (under certain conditions)
Apply for citizenship in a foreign country with the intention of giving up U.S. citizenship
Commit an act of treason against the United States
Calling employment in a Chinese chip manufacturing firm an act of treason is a real stretch of the imagination, even for the psychopaths in Washington.
Posted by: One Too Many | Oct 19 2022 20:08 utc | 52
sippy @ 49
My thoughts exactly.
BTW, I liked your reference to Kropotkin the other day. Much under-valued.
Posted by: Steve from Oz | Oct 19 2022 20:24 utc | 53
@51;
What you assign to envy and resentment is simply the anger of those who have been betrayed, deceived, scammed, defrauded - in a word, exploited.
Envy and resentment is the animus of the sociopath, the narcissist - who projects this quality onto their victims.
I’m not sure if you recognise that the “American” attitude you describe is universally considered to be an abnormal, sociopathic one. Or if you consider this a “cope”?
The sociopath envies and resents the most banal ordinary person for the cognitive abilities they were never able to develop.
If you’re past puberty it’s too late to develop them, I’m afraid. At least with our current levels of technology.
Posted by: Moaobserver | Oct 19 2022 20:43 utc | 54
Help me out - why would all American Citizen-Expats working for American chip companies in the PRX resign ?
They wouldn't.... But Blinken, etal.... hope so....
I'm waiting for EurAsia to seize all NATO IP as liquidated damages for sanctions expense...
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 19 2022 20:54 utc | 55
In the short term Biden's move will increase the current supply constrains and thereby also increase inflation
Biden made this redarted claim that inflation was due to chip shortages that inflated the prices of automobiles.
Don't tell me you share his "reasoning". This blatant unconstitutional threat of revoking citizenship will impact the electronic and software industry and a myriad of service based industries for sure.
But it will not have any impact on price of energy and groceries.
That's beyond stupid, something only an idiot like Biden would say and he did!
Posted by: FieryButMostPeaceful | Oct 19 2022 20:57 utc | 56
As I understand it - American citizens working in China in prohibited sectors will be prosecuted up to and including loss of citizenship.
So, their firms hire them as "consultants"...
OR....
China makes them an offer... so good... they accept...
FYI loosing USA citizenship means loosing the IRS....
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 19 2022 21:08 utc | 57
Steve from Oz | Oct 19 2022 20:24 utc | 52
Cheers and cheers! It's possible to have great insights into the human condition when one is not fettered by devotion to myths.
Moaobserver | Oct 19 2022 20:43 utc | 53
Bullseye!
The creeps tend to have complete origin myths of human personhood in celebration of "correct" predation and hunting. Just as it is said Ukraine is not a country but a racist theory of Russian inferiority, so it is with "whiteness" among others.
Aspies don't envy anyone's mirror neurons, especially not right now.
Dr. George W Oprisko | Oct 19 2022 21:08 utc | 56
Airlift some families out of the US and call it asylum.
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Oct 19 2022 21:10 utc | 58
Part of Blinken's Statement is FearPr0n Projection - another is the Fact that the "Pro-America/Pro-Independence" Campaigns of the DPP Dictatorship and their Murican MICC Masters aren't gaining in popularity.
Taiwan Island's Economy are tied in very closely to the Mainland's; and a Bulk of Work in the Mainland.
Also, EVERYBODY are seeing the Reports of how a Draft-Dodger Ukro-Jewish Actor became a Pet of the Anglo-Murican Zionist-Masons; and is currently ruining UKR as he directs the Forced Conscription of able bodied Men.
Do the Taiwanese Islanders think AUKUS are actually going to Defend them?
Posted by: IronForge | Oct 19 2022 21:25 utc | 59
Is anyone even surprised that the US is once again projecting onto others that which it is either doing or thinking?
Posted by: Et Tu | Oct 19 2022 16:52 utc | 1
“The statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”
― Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger
Posted by: Ed Nelson | Oct 19 2022 21:54 utc | 60
@ B9k9 | Oct 19 2022 20:03 utc | 51
the only reason there's any pro-russia sentiment in the usa is because the neocons turned on their previous supporters.
Hence the worlds anti-US stance; 'muricans are to stupid to be trusted.
Posted by: Anne B | Oct 19 2022 21:59 utc | 61
Is anyone even surprised that the US is once again projecting onto others that which it is either doing or thinking?
Posted by: Et Tu | Oct 19 2022 16:52 utc | 13
“The statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”
― Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger
Posted by: Ed Nelson | Oct 19 2022 21:59 utc | 62
The collapse of USA has exponentially accelerated. Its obvious to even the dopes that believe the empire lies somethings up. So i guess china is adjusting its policy accordingly. The tech chip war is a vital economic component that needs to be taken intact. Theres the problem. Worlds largest most vital sector that runs everything of importance is in the middle of this. Usa needs time as much as china to develop alt manufacturing
Posted by: Hankster | Oct 19 2022 22:01 utc | 63
China seize Taiwan.
Isn’t Taiwan China?
Isn’t that the official U$ “one China policy”.
Meanwhile isn’t the U$ “seizing” Haiti this week?
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 19 2022 22:01 utc | 64
Agreed 98% with b's assessment. It's as if Jack D Ripper has taken over US foreign policy. Well Jack's been there all along, but never enabled so completely. I think the Pelosi visit, though critiqued by nearly everyone I follow, was a big nothing. She should be able to go and talk with whoever she likes. And say whatever she likes, of no official importance because she is not now Executive Branch, she's a legislator who might be able to change something later, if it's not contrary to treaties or Executive will. Taiwan isn't the Holy of Holies which only true believers can visit, and making it into that doesn't help anyone except perhaps US. Looks like China has a long way to go with it's propaganda effort in Taiwan, though plenty of time, but mainly what it needs to do is wait for US to collapse and not collapse itself first. I imagine Chinese leadership understands that and has patience.
Posted by: Charles Peterson | Oct 19 2022 22:15 utc | 66
Don't know if anyone noticed, but Russia and Turkey made a new deal to expand Turkstream and make Turkey the de-facto gas hub to Europe. This has some pretty big ramifications. First, Turkey will want to protect their new economic bonanza. Whatever plan Nato had to blow it up, it won't happen.
Turkey will get big economic leverage over the EU. Additionally, they will do everything possible to throw bricks at any pipeline Israel attempts to construct to Europe. I'd call it a pretty good chess move.
My hunch is Europe will be wanting pipe gas relatively soon, again. LNG cannot sustain the basis of economic wealth Europeans got used to, pipe gas can.
Posted by: unimperator | Oct 19 2022 22:41 utc | 67
Charles Peterson | Oct 19 2022 22:15 utc | 65
Attempting to tutor US Americans (not all) into understanding geopolitics is such a challenge, exhibit A being your post^
How about: China spent the past 50+ years pouring billions and billions and billions of #$ into Hawaii. To foster the independent/ nationalist emotions of Hawaiians. Incited them further to think they were cheated and colonised by the U$. (Imagine).
Set up Chinese owned companies.
Sold Hawaii Chinese weapons. (Billions #$)
Then No 3 in Chinese government visits Hawaii over the protest of the U$ national government?
Would you then think: “yeah, nah, no problem. U$ is overreacting, it’s just a visit”.?
The problem trying to find an example or an analogy that “works” for Americans is they are so secure on their huge, and, until now, fully defensible North American continent.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 19 2022 22:45 utc | 68
So US deprives China of chip tooling. First EUV and now the level below.
So how could China retaliate. They could just deprive the US of everything else. Medicine, cheap chips, not even chips, just ICs. Where are the PCBs made? Shenzhen? Maybe some power supplies are still made in Taiwan and Vietnam. Remember, we just came out of a chip shortage (in the low end). If the Chinese really want, wow, another sanction regime totally backfiring. Likely they will just smile and take it (while awaiting their time) and start reverse engineering the machines they have to keep them running as long as possible. Next step is of course copying them. Which might take 10 years, but who doubts they will be able to do it finally. The good thing for them, Moore's Law has kinda slowed down and especially the costs for latest nodes have gone up tremendeously. Not a bad moment to catch up when the competition also hits a wall.
Now most high end chips are made by TSMC in Taiwan, not in the US. As long as Taiwan could deliver to everywhere in the world, China would be stupid to invade Taiwan while in the process destroying the goose that lays the golden eggs. Now if TSMC can't deliver everything to China anymore (presumably the high end stuff), there starts to be an incentive to, ups, sorry, destroyd the factories.. too bad nobody can have it now, leveling the field.. And the US with Intel is not very ahead to the rest of the world then, even China. That leaves Samsung. Oh oh, very close to the mainland, too. Maybe the Koreans also start thinking, who and what their friends are. Thought Samsung doesn't do tools.
But Japan does, or did, till ASML took much of their lunch. Maybe Nikon has no worth and knowhow anymore, whole company could be snatched up for 3.5 bn USD (and just a fraction would be for the old litho business)..
Oh and BTW, in memory (DRAM) China is already top. Apple was already a customer, thought they too had to cancel all their orders.
Posted by: C | Oct 19 2022 22:54 utc | 69
I’d like to bring up the same issue that Exile @ 8, and INDY at 54 bring up.
Everyone and all of the anti-China websites, and opinion pieces are all repeating the same exact narrative about the USA ordering Americans (in the IC industry) to leave China or lose their citizenship.
I am an engineer and I am in China.
I obtained no contact from the embassy or the Guangzhou consulate. Granted, that I am only (personally) peripherally associated with IC chip design, I do have factories that are. We are not seeing anything. It's bumpkis.
This "King Biden" proclamation could be true, or it could be false.
But also it could be just another major disinfo program like the "China buying up farmland around military bases", and "Shanghai residents revolting over covid".
There is a process for extraction of American citizens out of China. This process is not being followed in any way, shape or manner. Going to the embassy webpage, and the expat alerts show nothing.
My conclusion is that this idea of "all Americans working in IC chip fabrication within China, left on short notice when faced with the loss of their citizenship" is a disinfo campaign. It did not happen, is not happening, and is a lie designed for domestic consumption.
Until someone can produce an American Engineer who got on a plane with his plane ticket, explaining why he left China... I'm not going to believe it.
Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Oct 19 2022 23:06 utc | 70
To: B9k9 | Oct 19 2022 20:03 utc | 51
And what happens when someone just plainly admits ...
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Yeah, there is a new quality to the doing, like first time I saw it when Trump made it clear that he didn't like the Germans to get the Nordstream 2. What the fuck is it their business. Just out in the open, no pretense of being friends, no hidden threads outside the public sight.
Now the grip is so strong with the brain washing of the public, it even got worse and they just blew the whole thing up not caring, what people might think. As they don't dare to think anymore anyway. And now the false flags get attributed to Russia now (Z. NNP shelling themselves), no false flags needed for the US anymore (take your favorite pick) to get people riled up.
Posted by: C | Oct 19 2022 23:09 utc | 71
To: Rufus Arrr | Oct 19 2022 23:06 utc | 69
Not sure about the US employees in China and didn't find any other sources yet confirming what really are the definite rules/sanctions.
But here is a fresh Nikkei Asia article claiming Lam Research says they will loose 2.5 bn USD revenue.
Lam Research latest quarterly says China revenue was 31%!!! Then Korea, Taiwan and only on fourth place is the US with a meager 8%.
Posted by: C | Oct 19 2022 23:22 utc | 72
"When Blinken is lying about the alleged 'much faster timeline' Beijing does not have...", a pessimistic take is that Blinken is not lying, e.g. Taiwan will start shelling the mainland and the war will start ahead of Beijing schedule. Farfetched, but hardly impossible.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 19 2022 23:39 utc | 73
Seeking Alpha website says Applied Material said that leaving of their employees of plants in China, "a door is opened for Chinese companies to reverse engineer Applied's installed equipment. The Chinese government could allow this practice legally under the ...". No shit, sherlock. Otherwise the machines would be worthless without fullfilled support contract. The rule of law.
Posted by: C | Oct 19 2022 23:41 utc | 74
Apart from Russophobia and greed for Russia’s vast resources, the main reason to “weaken” Russia is to isolate China. A blockade of China cannot be successful if the Eurasian BRi is thriving. Thus I see the Hegemon’s action in Ukraine as being as much about China as it is about Russia.
Posted by: Elial | Oct 19 2022 23:42 utc | 75
Sure it is a grim position/change requiring responses by all in and out of china, but I believe the twitter ref
" With the new Biden sanctions, all American suppliers of IP blocks, components, and services departed overnight —— thus cutting off all service [to China].
every advanced node semiconductor company .... resignations from all American staff ... and immediate operations paralysis. This is what annihilation .... China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry was reduced to zero overnight. Complete collapse. No chance of survival."
.... is overstating the reality and therefore is inaccurate/questionable.
eg
SK Hynix Inc said on Wednesday that the South Korean chip company, as well as its current suppliers and business partners, is still authorized to engage in activities necessary to maintain current production of integrated circuits in China for one year without further licensing requirements.
https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202210/12/WS634650c7a310fd2b29e7c0a9.html
and
Reuters reported that South Korea's Samsung Electronics also received a one-year waiver from the US government for its chip-making factories in China, to import semiconductor equipment without applying for permission from Washington.
https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202210/14/WS63489b98a310fd2b29e7c54c.html
so not "everything" is collapsing overnight. also see cpl chinese news background reports about changes
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202210/1276706.shtml?id=11
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202210/1276790.shtml
and
Nvidia has said it could take a $400 million hit to revenue due to the restrictions on its ability to sell its latest data center chips in China.
"All this cutting off access to the China market is going to ultimately also impact the US ability to do innovation", said Triolo, "because those companies like Qualcomm, Nvidia, Broadcom, Intel, they're deriving a huge amount of their revenue from access to the China market".
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202210/11/WS6344a207a310fd2b29e7babb.html
What a mess. The US is far worse than an elephant on a china shop.
Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 20 2022 0:09 utc | 76
America makes Hitler look like an angel. They are the most racist, immoral and decadent country apart from Caligula 's Rome.
Take all your engineers from China; in fact all USA citizens before they start beating and killing you like you have and are doing to Asians.
That applies to "multicultural Canada", GB and Australia. The white racists have shown their stripes. Borell called non Europe a jungle. They are spitting out their racist hatred.
But everyday, the rest of the world listens and watches. I do not know if it was always a Jewish plan to destroy the white man, but it sure looks like it.
We never talk about how USA can tell China what to do. No! White is right. Well send 200 warships to the China sea and see them all blown up.
The Russians, Chinese, north Korean, Iran, Venezuela, Syria and all the rest waiting on the Jew White man final stand.
All white people should get out of china. Stay among your sorry selves. I leaving Canada.
Rufus Arrr | Oct 19 2022 23:06 utc | 69
I have to agree with your points there. "... is a disinfo campaign. It did not happen, is not happening, and is a lie designed for domestic consumption."
Sounds dubious at best exaggerated. As with all "PR/Media" hype, fake news, and claims by the US govt absent any credible evidence or unbiased confirmation. The asian news reports aere quite sanguine despite clearly being concerned over the long term and wtf the US is doing unilaterally.
Seems possible the worst impact will be upon the US and it's semiconductor manufacturing industry. As if the Chinese are really going to abide by edicts out of Washington now.
I think it is best to wait and see what really happens. It's far too soon to leaping to disaster scenarios.
btw I also saw the majority of Us citizens working in the industry are actually originally Chinese who obtained US citizenship while studying /working in the US .... not 100% sure, but thought that's an interesting point. All they need to do is relinquish their US citizenship which to me sounds quite probable for most of them (my guess at least).
Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 20 2022 0:22 utc | 78
After all, they were slaves/serfs since pre-history, and simply asserting they now have agency and free will is nothing more than a clever means of ruling via "democracy".
Then among brighter people we see this naive tendency towards placing faith in kumbaya, as if those states contesting to become the new hegemon will act any differently than the one now passing from history.
Posted by: B9k9 | Oct 19 2022 18:49 utc | 39
Interesting take, thank you.
I think there's another angle. You say the lower classes have been slaves since forever. There's some truth to that in that attitude and types of aptitude do get transmitted generationally and thus also genetically. To a certain extent. There is also a situational factor, one of which is that the masses by definition are large in number. Large groups have certain dynamics that are different from class elements alone. They are large, they rarely agree on anything, they rarely even have common interests. Factions within them do: some love football, some church, some night clubs, some professional development, some raising children and so forth ad infinitum.
Also, each individual only knows his own patch, his own neighborhood, his own work field or corner grocery store. Individuals don't see the big picture either at all or only partially no matter how smart or curious they are.
So situationally they are in an inferior, less informed position than those in higher functions with access to more information and interfacing with more people from a wider variety of situations and functions.
So any social system works with these sorts of factors, some skillfully and artfully, some not so much. It's not just down to the nature and character of the people alone.
And Biden falsely blames Tigray for being too cosey with China.
After all the only African outcome suitable for the USA is failed and broken states that can be pillaged. The pattern of imperial plunder is engraved on this earth of mankind.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 20 2022 0:33 utc | 80
My conclusion is that this idea of "all Americans working in IC chip fabrication within China, left on short notice when faced with the loss of their citizenship" is a disinfo campaign. It did not happen, is not happening, and is a lie designed for domestic consumption.
Until someone can produce an American Engineer who got on a plane with his plane ticket, explaining why he left China... I'm not going to believe it.
Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Oct 19 2022 23:06 utc | 69
Thank you for that first-hand report from the front lines. Much appreciated.
20 Oct, 2022 US-China relations SCMP
At least 1,400 US-based ethnic Chinese scientists exited American institutions for mainland China, study reveals
‘Chilling effect’ felt from Washington policies like Trump-era initiative that targeted suspected theft of technical secrets and intellectual property
If fear isn’t alleviated, high risk US will see ‘underutilisation of scientific talent’ and lose out to China and other countries, say authors
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The China Initiative, launched in 2018 by the administration of former US president Donald Trump, aimed to fight suspected Chinese theft of technical secrets and intellectual property as competition between the two countries intensified.
While the administration of US President Joe Biden formally ended the programme this year amid concerns over racial bias and a culture of fear, it still exacted a lingering toll on Chinese-descent scientists, according to the report.
“Our study reveals the widespread fear among Chinese-origin scientists in the US arising from conducting routine research and academic activities,” Xie and his four fellow authors from the three US universities concluded.
“If this fear is not alleviated, there are significant risks of an underutilisation of scientific talent as well as losing scientific talent to China and other countries,” they added.
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A poll last year by researchers at the University of Arizona and the Committee of 100, a non-partisan organisation of prominent Chinese-Americans, found 40 per cent of scientists who are ethnic Chinese considered leaving the US due to a fear of American government surveillance.
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The report found that 61 per cent of the scientists, especially young researchers, felt pressure to leave the US, and 65 per cent expressed concern about their collaborations with China. About 45 per cent of the respondents said they were avoiding applying for US federal grants.
from https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3196554/least-1400-us-based-ethnic-chinese-scientists-exited-american-institutions-mainland-study
Should be no surprise.
Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 20 2022 0:55 utc | 82
I find the Communist Party of China to be an intellectually rigorous entity with a foundation of thorough planning and commitment to its people and nation.
That is the fundamental obstruction to all these growlings and paradings from the yankee paper tiger. To think that China has not fairly well gamed out this current scenario and made the best possible plans to circumvent the most dire outcomes is to think like a fool.
IMO there will be the odd hiccup in transition to some new paradigm, but there will be a fundamentally effective transition. We are likely to be awestruck with the outcome from China, they are good at it.
I note China is paying something like $250,000 contracts to lure englander fighter pilots to train its PLA airforce pilots. What price a US chip engineer?
Remember Blinken is the sorcerers apprentice, bumbling and very stupid. He will likely do damage but sooner or later order will be restored in the cellar.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 20 2022 1:00 utc | 83
And Biden falsely blames Tigray for being too cosey with China.
After all the only African outcome suitable for the USA is failed and broken states that can be pillaged. The pattern of imperial plunder is engraved on this earth of mankind.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 20 2022 0:33 utc | 79
That was more interesting than I expected. My impression was that there are no good guys there, and that Western interests for some time have been to keep "the Horn" politically impotent, disorganized, and dependent, so yeah.
It was not my impression that the Tigrayans did a good job for the 30 years of so they ran the place, so mostly I haven't taken sides (not that anybody cares ...). But Cunningham seems to take their side, and I generally respect his views. It does seem clear the Eritreans and Abiy are working together, have been for some time. And it seems clear the USA/West does not like Abiy any more, a point in his favor. I still think I don't want to take sides.
I see few articles about that war, and they are always very polarized.
Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 20 2022 1:08 utc | 84
Bruised Northerner #26
Alaska? Is it in the game? It’s seemed impossible to me for years now (no evidence at all though) that the US will be able to keep hold of it, given their downfall.https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-arctic-territories-russia-china/
I hear that the Sultan of Brunei is looking for a cool summer retreat that includes some big game hunting.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 20 2022 1:28 utc | 85
bit of memeish mischief: imho the bar could do with a good belly laugh…. Here’s the slimmest, slight smug smile to crank the motor….
“Elon Musk: China can not replicate our technology.
China:”
https://twitter.com/but_am_I_wrong_/status/1582905095829999616
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 20 2022 1:29 utc | 86
Bemildred #83
I see few articles about that war, and they are always very polarized.
Agreed and I too am vague on it all. I get the impression that Tigrayans are old 'stalinist portrayed' style, but I am not sure. I recall there has been some intense US 'left' lobbying against the Tigrayans but that too could be total BS and fakery gingered along by the three letter ghouls. For the imperial junta simply keeping Africa disunited is the goal. Ditto in Haiti.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 20 2022 1:35 utc | 87
Some Idiot: "Complete collapse. No chance of survival."
You know, because American-borne executives, engineers, and marketing managers all resigned en-masse.
Mind you, all the EQUIPMENT is still there. All the FACTORIES are still intact.
This idiot is displaying the worse sort of cultural chauvinism: if there aren't Americans there then it all grinds to a halt.
Pigs-arse it will.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Oct 20 2022 2:30 utc | 88
Ah, is this Chapter 5,872 in Western media's ongoing "China On The Verge Of Collapse" narrative?
Funny, I can't find a single Chinese-language website remotely concerned about this "Biden Nuclear Chip Bomb" nonsense.
Posted by: Ghan-buri-Ghan | Oct 20 2022 2:32 utc | 89
Posted by: SeanAU | Oct 20 2022 0:55 utc | 81
Thanks for finally mentioning that study. These are the US citizens to whom the WSJ twat thread refers. I thought it obvious, but here you are at ending page 1. And no one's bothered to even check US Treasury Foreign Asset sanctions bible.
CHIP 4 didn't start the US national security purge of naturalized Chinese, dual passport holders. I first notice toward the end of Mitch O'bama's admin, when FBI started picking off "suspects" with security clearance in US agencies, eg. NIH/NIAID, HHS; I'm reminded of a high-profile case related the ebola R&D pHarma marketing caper concocted by Fauci with Canadians. During cheeto's admin, Christopher Wray went on a crusade to (1) discredit and shutter Confuscius Institutes, typically hosted by college Asia studies depts. and non-profit k12 language studies nominally funded through US State; (2) Wray also railroad a few industrial spy indictments of US corp employees. The purge climaxed with "Wuhan flu" conspiracy heaped on cheeto's China trade tariffs, both of which plenty mental midgets on the wrong end of 30 years US labor arbitrage were eager to embrace...and still are...being unable to disconnect Fauci racketeering from one trivial grantee to DOD's global network of BWC "dual-use" BLS-4 labs. Enter the real and imagined "Asian hate" diversion to the lobby of the Russiagate-anticommie-Jan6 inauguration. Of course, HB-1's got the message; Why stay? Of course, Biden took "competitive" cow bell over the cliff, simply because he's always been crude, craven, corrupted by decades of graft in the senate foreign relations committee like the people who elected this 2x failure to POTUS. Also he's surrounded by creatures who let him sniff their hair.
Posted by: sln2002 | Oct 20 2022 2:34 utc | 90
The US competes globally by kneecapping any up and coming peer competitor. So now it is picking a fight with both China and Russia. One has enough nuclear weapons to lay waste to most large US cities, while the other has enough nuclear weapons to kill everyone in the continental US. No problem, the important thing is that the dying empire maintains its relevance.
Posted by: Mike R | Oct 20 2022 2:37 utc | 91
Phil Geraldi has a report from the mediterranean cruise ship.
Inevitably, Joe Biden denounced the Italian election results as a setback where “democracy is at stake” in order to convince US voter to cast their ballots for Democrats. He elaborated “You just saw what’s happened in Italy in that election. You’re seeing what’s happening around the world. And the reason I bother to say that is we can’t be sanguine about what’s happening here, either. I don’t want to exaggerate it, but I don’t want to understate it. And it’s the reason why I’m so concerned about and so interested in and so committed to seeing that the governors — Democratic governors — are elected.” The Biden comment, insulting to the Italians, was not much reported in the US media but was on the receiving end of a great deal of critical commentary in Italy. Several Italians I spoke to mentioned it disparagingly.
The insults from this imperial minotaur never cease.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 20 2022 2:56 utc | 92
In the short run the Chinese have to either bend their knees to the US or just fume and not do anything major in response. China has a mercantile culture. That is why Chinese banks and tech companies aren't going along with the Mir system and many have left Russia. They are afraid of sanctions. The Chinese take the long term view though and hate losing face so I wouldn't be surprised if eventually it is payback time for US actions and demeaning comments.
Posted by: My Comment | Oct 20 2022 3:00 utc | 93
Ok. It’s Bloomberg. That aside…. What do China-informed barflies make of this?
Hong Kong tries to reverse expat exodus with housing tax cut, new visa
https://twitter.com/i/events/1582585411909607424
Hong Kong Chief Executive John Lee unveiled a plan to woo back foreign talent and ease housing woes, to revive the city’s status as a thriving international finance hub.
The city also plans to increase the number of people allowed to gather in public, with the substantial tweak to one of its most criticized Covid rules marking another gradual step toward reviving its reputation.
> Hong Kong leader John Lee will lay out his vision for the city’s revival as an international financial hub during his policy address.
> Hong Kong will relax rules on property for non-permanent residents and grant two-year visas for high earners and top university graduates
>John Lee says national sovereignty, security are top priorities
Thanks China’s Xi for saying order is restored in Hong Kong
Lee says Hong Kong faces ‘new challenges’
> Hong Kong will increase the number of people allowed to gather in public, a substantial tweak to one of its most criticized Covid rules
> Hong Kong's businesses are pressing the government to give a clear roadmap for a full reopening to help retain top talent
I had read that during the western promoted HK protests, China had a plan to move most of the “cogs” that made HK turn across the harbour to the Mainland.
Is that’s what’s happened here?
HK throttled it’s golden goose?
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 20 2022 3:03 utc | 94
Yeah, Right | Oct 20 2022 2:30 utc | 87
In the same line …. I remember reading Russians would all starve once McDonalds departed….
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 20 2022 3:06 utc | 95
China plans to seize Taiwan on ‘much faster timeline,’ Blinken says
This is insider info.
Predictive programming.
Standard FUKUSA MO.
empire watch 101
Never take uncle sham's warning lightly.
Exhibit A
This column stands foursquare with the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, when he warns that there will be more terrorist attacks against the American people and civilization at large. We know, as does the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, that this statement is an incontrovertible fact, a matter of scientific certainty. And how can we and the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, be so sure that there will be more terrorist attacks against the American people and civilization at large?Because these attacks will be instigated at the order of the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2002/11/01/rummy-s-plan-to-provoke-terrorist-attacks/
Posted by: denk | Oct 20 2022 4:16 utc | 96
Lots of people blaming this TW PROVOcation on the current 'jew regime'.
Bollocks !
Stoking proxy wars to bleed the dragon
has been going on since time immermorial.
Exhibit A
Uncle's officials' sense of a natural right to dominate goes back into the nineteenth century, but I used to read to my students a beauty from 1954, shortly after the Chinese Communist victory, when U.S. officials and pundits were already claiming that the CHINESE were planning on subverting everywhere:Representative Frederick R. Coudert. Did I correctly understand you to say that the heart of the present policy toward China and Formosa is that there is to be kept alive a constant threat of military action vis-a-vis Red China in the hope that at some point there will be an internal break- down?
Walter S. Robertson, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs. Yes, sir. That is my conception.
Coudert. In other words, a cold war waged under the leadership of the United States, with constant threat of attack against China, led by Formosa and other Far Eastern groups, and militarily backed by the United States?
Robertson. Yes...
Coudert. Fundamentally, does this mean that the United States is undertaking to maintain for an indefinite period of years American dominance in the Far East?
Robertson. Yes. Exactly.
(Hearings before the House Committee on Appropriations, Jan. 26, 1954.)
I used to substitute names and words into this exchange making it a Chinese exchange, then asking the students if the exchange demonstrated that the claims of intended Chinese subversion and aggression were not justified. Naturally, they all said: clearly and obviously. And most of them were pretty shaken when it turned out to be an Uncle Chutzpah statement.
Posted by: denk | Oct 20 2022 4:44 utc | 97
bevin | Oct 19 2022 19:01 utc | 41
Dear bevin you reply to the troll lacks all basic skills and merely feeds himthem – your reference to an obscure French fashion model will not confuse or puzzle but betray
Trolls are the context you westies live in, pretty much every service interaction communication is mediated through the lowest common denominator and calibrated to make you un think and heedlessly consume the thoughts and products of the moment
And to avoid any more worthwhile pensées to quote BHL or commonality
These trolls you think you can recognise, what about the rest ? Why not arm yourself and those around you ? arm literally and figuratively
Without a fight to abandon the field to some low level algo means they got your number and they got you
PS besides it isn't so - there was a long time of precarious mutual equality before the dreaded invention of agriculture which has led you lot to your current degenerate state of slavery poor health, obesity and ..well whatever other gross problems you have
Posted by: Gerrard White | Oct 20 2022 4:53 utc | 98
That applies to "multicultural Canada", GB and Australia. The white racists have shown their stripes. Borell called non Europe a jungle. They are spitting out their racist hatred.
posted by: Karl luck | Oct 20 2022 0:18 utc | 76
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I saw that too.
EU foreign-policy chief Josep Borrell
We are a beautiful garden but there's a jungle out there.
Tending to our own lawn aint enuff, we gotta go out to engage with those savages before the jungle attack our garden
https://multipolarista.com/2022/10/15/eu-europe-garden-jungle/
Posted by: denk | Oct 20 2022 5:29 utc | 99
@ denk | Oct 20 2022 5:29 utc | 98 with the Borrell quote....Ugh/thanks
Talk about projection. I swear that these folks are working towards gold medals in it.
Lets reword it
We are a barbaristic jungle but there's a beautiful garden out there.
Tending to our own barbarism aint enuff, we gotta go out to engage with those civilians before the garden attack our jungle
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 20 2022 5:47 utc | 100
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Blinken and crowd are playing the China card saber rattling before the midterms.
2nd reason is to maintain support for the Russia gambit in Ukraine.
SSDD Same Shit, Different Day
I wish there was confirmation of SA telling the US not to come to their investment party on the 25th but I am not seeing anything....sigh
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 19 2022 16:02 utc | 1