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September 1, 2022
Ukraine Tries To Prevent IAEA Inspection Of The Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant

Updated below (11:30 UTC)

Over night the Ukrainian military, from positions in Vyshetarasovka, Nikopol and Marganets, again shelled the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant on the south side of the Kakhovka Dnieper reservoir.


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This was fallowed by an early morning attempt by Ukrainian forces to land a sabotage group near the village north east of the ZNPP. Some seven boats, two self-motorized barges and some 60 soldiers were involved in the suicidal mission.



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The paramilitary Russian National Guard (Rosgvardiya) which protects the plant immediately detected the insertion and attacked it. The Russian army send Ka-52 attack helicopters to help destroy the Ukrainian force. The two barges were sunk.

As the little town where the troops landed is outside of power plant there is no danger to the reactors.

An inspector team under IAEA director Rafael Grossi is on its way to the ZNPP.

U.N. nuclear safety officials who are heading to Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia power plant are facing intense shelling but will continue to travel to the facility, the team's leader said Thursday.

"There has been increased military activity, including this morning — until very recently, a few minutes ago," Rafael Mariano Grossi, the director general of the U.N.'s International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said Thursday morning. But he added defiantly: "Having come so far, we are not stopping. We are moving now," despite the fact "the risks are very very high."

Grossi concluded his press statement by saying: "Wish us luck, we are moving now … It's very important that the world knows what's happening here."

The IAEA inspectors are expected to cross the frontline between Ukrainian-held land and Russian-occupied Ukrainian territory and reach the nuclear power, Europe's largest, later on Thursday. The U.N. inspectors will continue to advance, despite the fact intense shelling has been reported by both Ukraine and Russia around Zaporizhzhia, amid fears the risks of a nuclear accident are increasing.

Update 1:

Dima of the Military Summary Channel thinks (vid) that the Ukrainian saboteur group was tasked with laying low until the inspectors arrive. It would then take over the plant and prevent the IAEA inspectors from leaving. They would then be hostages at the plant which would guarantee that the Russian side would be unable to retake the site.

If that really was the plan it was one of the craziest I ever heard off. Then again – the Ukrainian Zelenski regime is crazy and he and his advisors are former movie producers who are trained to come up with such plots.

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The Russian Ministry of Defense has said that the planned meeting point with the inspectors had come under fire from Ukrainian artillery.

Meanwhile 'western' media continue to quote the ludicrous Ukrainian claims that the Russia is shelling the power plant which is under its troops control since early March:

On Tuesday, Ukrainian officials accused Russia of shelling the path the IAEA inspectors will take to reach the plant to force the group to pass through Crimea instead. They did not provide evidence for their claims, and Russia did not directly respond to the allegation. On Wednesday, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said, “Russia is doing everything or even more in order to make the mission … happen, be safe, and accomplish all of its tasks.”

“Every minute the Russian troops stay at the nuclear power plant is a risk of a global radiation disaster,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said last week.

Ukrainian officials remain worried that the Kremlin’s forces will sanitize the plant ahead of the visit and intimidate workers into not telling the truth about Russian behavior, prompting the IAEA to bless the safety protocols at the plant. That would, in effect, legitimize Russia’s occupying presence, the Ukrainians fear.

“The worst-case scenario is when they come and say it’s best that the station is under Russian control [and] in general, nuclear safety protocols are followed,” Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba told The Washington Post last week.

The nuclear inspectors were scheduled to spend the night at a hotel in Zaporizhzhia before visiting the plant first thing on Thursday morning, a spokesman for the plant said.

The U.S. military disagrees with the Ukrainian claim that Russia is shelling the ZNPP. On Monday a Pentagon background briefing touched the issue:

Q: [..] White House Strategic Communications Coordinator Kirby said earlier today that the U.S. does not have a way of — of accounting the number of shells — artillery shells fired around the Zaporizhzhia plant in Ukraine. I was wondering if you could give clarity on exactly what level of visibility the U.S. has on the military activity around the plant and which side is shelling at any given moment?

SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIAL: Yeah, I — so what I know for sure is that the — the Russians are firing from around the plant and, you know, I also know that there are rounds that have impacted near the plant. You know, the way that we're tracking the forces around the nuclear power plant — it's not like there's a — a constant — it's hard to explain, I guess. It's not like there are forces in every square inch of the area around the plant. And so we also know that the Russians have fired in the vicinity of the plant.

And I don't want to say that the Ukrainians haven't fired in that vicinity either because I think there's probably a likelihood that they have, but in good — in a number of cases, it's returning fire of the Russians who are firing from those locations.

… and in a number of other cases they target the power plant.

Update 2:

Here is another crazy issue. The Ukrainian Kherson offensive continues despite extremely heavy losses. The Rybar map shows one of the axes where the Ukrainian army still tries to press forward after having been rooted from Bruskyns'ke.


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The area is flat open steppe with no coverage for troops to hide. The Russian side is by far superior in artillery and has air supremacy. Whoever ordered the Ukrainians to press this suicidal campaign under these circumstance is guilty of murder and should go to prison for the rest of his life.

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Comments

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 1 2022 14:42 utc | 88
Can you provide a link or source for the claim that actual UK officers were involved in the landing on the ground and were eliminated? I cannot believe the UK would risk the blowback from having its operatives caught red handed in the field in this way.

Posted by: WJ | Sep 1 2022 15:08 utc | 101

The filthy, duplicitous, arrogant UK and its security agencies have to keep their involvement secret. It won’t be until British troops start returning home in body bags that the docile, brain -dead Great British Public starts to question the acts of its State.
What’s done in the dark, will be brought into the light. (With apologies to Leonard Cohen).

Posted by: Vragtes | Sep 1 2022 15:08 utc | 102

Someone claimed the pens of the western front were silent.
The Brits [with mi6 seemingly the *masterminds* orchestrating this shitshow] have fired up the Mighty Wurlitzer…..
SOURCE @thetimes: twitter
Russian shelling prompts shutdown at Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant
A reactor at a Ukrainian nuclear plant has been shut down after Russian shelling, its operator said, as Kyiv accused Moscow of trying to derail an urgent mission to the facility by the International Atomic Energy Agency.
One of the two operational reactors at the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant was deactivated after Russian forces launched mortar bombs in the area.

The plant is held by Russian troops but is being run by Ukrainian workers under Russian supervision. The Russian military is thought to have deployed artillery and missile systems to the site.

Rafael Grossi, the head of @iaeaorg said he was aware of “increased military activity” in the region but that he and his 14-strong team were pressing on with a visit to the facility in an effort to prevent a nuclear accident.
> Andriy Yermak, the Ukrainian president’s chief of staff, said the Russians had stepped up shelling in the area in an attempt to disrupt the inspection
> Quoting Russian MoD: The ministry said dozens of Ukrainian troops in boats had crossed the Dnipro river, which divides territory held by Russia and Ukraine. It said its troops had “taken measures to annihilate the enemy”.
The report could not be verified [😜]
Tweet:
Andriy Yermak. @AndriyYermak Russia shelled Energodar and the territory of the Zaporizhzhya NPP. They want to disrupt the visit of the @iaeaorg mission.
These are the actions of a terrorist state afraid of the world learning the truth.
RF is responsible for everything happening at the ZNPP and Energodar.
6:01 PM · Sep 1, 2022
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> So you are saying Russians are shelling themselves in the nuclear plant that they took control of back in March? Something doesn’t add up
>> For us seemingly it does not add up, but for genocidal #Putin does in fact add up. This is #Russia with its false flag attempts, real or imagined, for #RussianPropaganda, that they do wherever possible. Recall #olenivkamassacre where they burned 40 POWs & injured 100+ more.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 15:10 utc | 103

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 15:05 utc | 103
A medic?
I cannae believe it

Posted by: DaVinci | Sep 1 2022 15:11 utc | 104

⚡️ Hostilities unleashed by Ukrainian sabotage groups on the day of IAEA experts’ visit with artillery shelling of Zaporozhye NPP by AFU leave no doubt that Zelensky regime had prepared this military provocation well in advance.
▫️It was the completion of preparations for the seizure of Zaporozhye NPP by Ukrainian subversives on the day of IAEA experts’ visit that was the reason for the cancellation of Mr. Grossi’s visit to the plant on August 31 which was replaced by his “unscheduled” meeting with Mr. Zelensky.
▫️It is obvious that if the Kiev regime’s operation to seize the plant were to succeed, IAEA head Rafael Grossi and the mission experts would become a “human shield” for the Ukrainian saboteurs to prevent any action by units of the Russian Armed Forces to destroy them.
▫️The role of IAEA mission would then be limited to fixing the new status quo – “Zaporozhye NPP has been taken over by Kiev”, with a new wave of loud statements from Washington and European capitals calling on Russia to ensure a “demilitarised zone” around the NPP, where IAEA monitors would remain under the protection of the Ukrainian military.
▫️This provocation was thwarted by the effective actions of units of the Russian Armed Forces and National Guard. At present IAEA mission led by Rafael Grossi has arrived at the nuclear power plant and started its planned work with full security ensured by the Russian side. The position of Mr. Grossi and his team, who went to the plant despite Kiev’s provocations and shelling by AFU, is worthy of respect.
▫️In this regard, we understand perfectly the undertaking of silence of all western sponsors of Zelensky’s regime, which actually confirms their secret participation in the preparation of today’s provocation at Zaporozhye NPP. At the same time, the absence of a public response from UN Secretary General António Guterres in Vienna to Kiev’s actions near Zaporozhye NPP causes justified bewilderment.
▫️Such silence not only casts a shadow and questions the objectivity of the UN approaches to the situation around Zaporozhye NPP, but also leads to further escalation of the situation there with full impunity for the Kiev regime.
#urgent @mod_russia_en
https://t.me/mod_russia_en/3884

Posted by: Barofsky | Sep 1 2022 15:14 utc | 105

If it was used fuel missing it would be easy to trace.
Very few used fuel flasks available for shipping off site.
Far too radioactive to handle without adequate shielding.

Posted by: mi | Sep 1 2022 15:14 utc | 106

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 15:10 utc | 106
“No matter what my German voters think”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r__0QQueEPw
Anything goes, so why not shooting themselves?
Strange days indeed.

Posted by: Paco | Sep 1 2022 15:16 utc | 107

@ WJ | Sep 1 2022 15:08 utc | 104
HMS Prince of Wales says it all.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 1 2022 15:17 utc | 108

Steven Starr | Sep 1 2022 14:34 utc | 81 – Re: Grossi “…or we end up finding out that a few hundred kilograms of nuclear weapon-grade material has gone missing…”
Don’t get hung up on the weapons/reactor-grade distinction. While weapons-grade plutonium – purposefully manufactured, never reprocessed – is desirable for small size, accurate/maximum yields and stability, reactor-grade plutonium – reprocessed from spent fuel – is still suitable for use in a thermonuclear warhead. Less yield, less predictable yield, larger warhead size (vs. yield) and somewhat more risky for long-term weapons stability, but properly reprocessed/purified plutonium can be used for nuclear weapons.
Uranium from properly reprocessed fuel is also suitable for a fission primary in a thermonuclear warhead. Again, purposefully refined, enriched uranium is preferable for many of the same reasons, but not strictly necessary.
The IAEA is paranoid about accounting for all of Zaporizhzhia’s spent fuel inventory because it can be used in a covert weapons program, either by Ukraine as a state actor or (far worse) some oligarch-financed side project to produce it for *another* non-Ukrainian state actor’s covert weapons program (insert usual suspects here). It’s not necessary to find the actual refined/purified plutonium or uranium at the plant and that is probably unlikely. Missing spent fuel is enough evidence – it would have been taken *somewhere* for reprocessing with great effort. Ukraine had (no longer exists) a reprocessing facility decades ago an the general technical knowledge is certainly out there – it’s not rocket science, just dangerous and dirty.
Ukraine’s eagerness to switch all its reactors from Russia’s TVEL-supplied fuel to Westinghouse-supplied fuel was always suspicious. Plutonium production, uranium enrichment or tritium production by replacing a few fuel rods in a normal reactor load with ‘special’ fuel rods is the real danger. Irradiating those special rods in a normal reactor then removing them during refueling produces ‘spent fuel’ far more suitable for reprocessing into weapons-useable materials.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Sep 1 2022 15:17 utc | 109

WJ | Sep 1 2022 15:08 utc | 104
Wants sauce…. (Hot chili?)
I think this is the source>>
https://t.me/rian_ru/176288
Although I can’t speak Russian, but I can, I think, detect Konashenkov saying “British” and then “American”.
A Russian speaker will enter the bar and provide valuable translation…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 15:19 utc | 110

b didn’t do it ‘cuz he knows better, but he quoted a source which (commonly) said: “The U.N. inspectors. . .”
The IAEA derives from the NPT and while it sends reports to the UN it is not UN.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 1 2022 15:23 utc | 111

@ Et Tu | Sep 1 2022 11:57 utc | 26
Baerbock responds with: “No matter what my German voters think, but I want to deliver to the people of Ukraine.”
We have the same attitude in the US, with the pols claiming that they know best and the proles need to be educated. . . .Reminds me of the reader who recently referred to US citizens as “morons.” It’s back-ass from the truth and certainly not a sign of highly-touted “democracy.” It’s autocracy which the west commonly (and wrongly) criticizes other countries for, especially Russia and China.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 1 2022 15:28 utc | 112

The US cannot default except by choice, since as a sovereign state (unlike members of EU), it prints its money.
Posted by: jared | Sep 1 2022 14:58 utc | 99

US default would hurt US allies more than those who have progress further with de-dollarization, so it is unlikely to happen. back in March, according to Zoltan Pozsar, discussions toward a Bretton Woods 3 are underway.
Between covid, supply chain disruptions, inflation, volatility, wars, etc., it appears that the Apex predators in the FinTech sector are creating just enough pain in the world so that the upper and middle classes will accept their new 1005 trackable Central Bank Digital Currency regimes.
https://www.credit-suisse.com/about-us-news/en/articles/news-and-expertise/we-are-witnessing-the-birth-of-a-new-world-monetary-order-202203.html

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 1 2022 15:31 utc | 113

I find it hypocritical that people can be so alarmed that the Russians might have weapons or whatever stored at the ZNPP. When the Russians took control of the plant in March, RT ( Marat Gazdiev ) was let inside to showcase the immense weapons cache that was stored there by the Ukrainians.
I also find it amazing that I have yet to see any evidence of fighting at the power plant and I can see the plant and the southern shore of the Kakhovka basin quite clearly from my balcony.
I did waken at about 1am yesterday to a barrage of missiles fired from the east and flying almost directly overhead, slightly south, so I had a full view of them, to the west. No idea what they were targetting but there was about 20 of them, guessing.

Posted by: Bluedog57 | Sep 1 2022 15:42 utc | 114

Of course, the IAEA inspectors are spies, as they are citizens of the unfriendly countries. How many times António Guterres visit Kiev since February 2022? He is Portuguese, so from a NATO country, meaning from an enemy country. Portuguese were not that good people for few centuries. Oh, today they are all peace loving doves, the British, Belgians, French, Germans, the Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish…

Posted by: rp | Sep 1 2022 15:46 utc | 115

Map of shelling / strikes at NPP. (Not sure of time frame)
https://t.me/rian_ru/176322

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 15:46 utc | 116

the more reckless and outlandish stunts the Ukrainians attempt will just convince the Russians that the current Kiev Regime is just like the west not agreement capable and thus it will need to complete take over the country, destroy the Nazis; root and stem and impose new realities upon it. I cant imagine Russia will allow the Kiev Regime to survive this war, they simply cant be trusted to abide by any peace treaty terms or behave rationally. Also, any country that would deliberately spend the lives of their civilians and soldiers like a drunk sailor on payday will never be a functioning economy, a successful economy needs to have a government that at the very least does NOT kill off a huge portion of the economy’s workforce on suicide missions. Back in July I heard that Ukraine has lost 2% of it’s adult male working age population (18-55) since the war started, 2% sounds small, but this is 2% of the most economically productive part of the population and this number has only gone up since the Russians have liberated more and more territory.

Posted by: Kadath | Sep 1 2022 15:47 utc | 117

Know this all happened under the supervision of top Western thinkers, intelligences agencies and military planners. Everything the West has was deployed into rowing Ukrainians across a river to take control of a nuclear power plant surrounded by Russian military. The outcome was failure.
The collapse of the West will be biblical indeed.

Posted by: Goran | Sep 1 2022 15:55 utc | 118

Any comments needed?

Posted by: rp | Sep 1 2022 15:55 utc | 119

jared @ 101, others
Yes, Ukraine has active NPPs at Rivne, Khmelnisky, and Yuzhnoukrainsk. All those are deep in western Ukraine. There are also Chernobyl (what is still there?), research reactors, a Westinghouse reactor supposedly under construction, a variety of shuttered sites. If someone simply wants to stir the pot there is plenty.
Inspector Clouseau is in charge. Impossible to predict what crazy people will do. Please think of whatever personal experience you may have with outdoor insane in grip of mania, schizophrenia, dementia. It is not possible to guess what the insane will come up with next. That is where we are.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 1 2022 15:55 utc | 120

thanks for the update b and to the various posters here who try to enlighten others…

Posted by: james | Sep 1 2022 16:02 utc | 121

Dare I say that patience with the Ukrainians is wearing thin?
Desperate times usually call for desperate measures.
Though highly unlikely, the IAEA pointing the finger of blame at the Ukrainians would be a turning point.
It’s one thing to be the incompetent yet plucky underdog. It’s another thing to conspire to create a nuclear catastrophe in Europe.

Posted by: Pat Bateman | Sep 1 2022 16:03 utc | 122

Wherever weapons inspectors have been sent, the host country has always decried they might be spies. But is there any benefit to them being? They either have access, which they report what they see anyway, or they don’t. Not like they slip away in the middle of the night James Bond like to do sabotage. They are pretty tightly contained. So I don’t see it.

Posted by: GS | Sep 1 2022 16:05 utc | 123

b on September 1, 2022 at 10:19 UTC
Update 2:
Here is another crazy issue. The Ukrainian Kherson offensive continues despite extremely heavy losses. The Rybar map shows on of the axes where the Ukrainian army still tries to press forward after having been rooted from Bruskyns’ke.
The area is flat open steppe with no coverage for troops to hide. The Russian side is by fare superior in artillery and has air supremacy. Whoever ordered the Ukrainians to press this suicidal campaign under these circumstance is guilty of murder and should go to prison for the rest of his life.

Great post b. This is only crazy if you look at it from a military perspective. Whoever ordered the Ukrainians to press this suicidal campaign under these circumstance was guilty of many murders before this started, knows that death not jail awaits him, and will do whatever he must to survive. Not his people, himself. And his survival depends on killing Russians, because that is what his masters demand. So while crazy from a military perspective, it is completely rational from a gangster perspective. I agree though from a military perspective it is difficult to watch.

Posted by: Maxx | Sep 1 2022 16:06 utc | 124

My apologies in advance, but lacking a current non-Ukraine open thread with less than 300 posts, please understand this could positively impact the Ukraine issue viz-a-viz Canada. The 13 Demands from the NDP below is the lever we need to force a non-confidence vote before the scheduled, “last possible” election date in Oct 2025.
Removing the WEF Trudeau/Freeland/Singh cabal from power should be a priority for anyone hoping for a quicker rend to the nonsense.
I know many MoA residents are tired of hearing about Canadian politics, but this potentially reaches well beyond Canada to Palestine directly, but also against WEF “penetration” of gov’ts world wide.
Unfortunately, this apparent shift in NDP policy has not made it to the MSM or any wide distribution by social or alternative media. I don’t share Mr. Engler’s optimism that WEFer Singh has changed his spots. That will require Singh fearing losing his seat, leadership and catbird bully pulpit. Klaus Schwab will not be happy if we splash on the world stage what they obviously don’t want widely publicly known.
To the Canadians at MoA, please disseminate this as far and wide as you can. The MSM won’t do it, so we must do it for ourselves. Want a non-confidence vote sooner rather than waiting until 2025? This is our best shot to date. An election in the next few months, directly after Poileivre, Baber, Lewis and Bergen wrest control from the Harper/Mulroney factions can only be better than what we have now. No more mandates, masks or lockdowns… worth doing something?
To International readers, if the NDP can be forced by massive international public insistence to make a non-confidence motion based on the Liberal non-compliance with these demands, the WEF LOSES CONTROL OF CANADA. No more arms/cash to Ukraine, as once the Conservative Party wins, any new spending will be required to be taken from existing military budgets. This is not an explicit promise from Poilievre, but being sold to the Canadian public as a means to domestically stop the never-ending tax-inflation.
https://dissidentvoice.org/2022/09/supporters-of-palestinian-rights-should-praise-ndps-dramatic-policy-shift/
“We believe Israel’s illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories is at the centre of the challenges facing the Palestinian and Israeli people.” It makes 13 demands of the minority Liberal government that the NDP supports in Parliament. These are:
– Respond to reports from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, Israeli human rights NGOs and the United Nations and accept their recommendations to states
– Refer the killing of journalist Shireen Abu Akleh to the International Criminal Court
– Increase pressure on the Israeli government to stop its plan to annex Palestinian territory in violation of international law
– Condemn the construction of illegal settlements, demolitions of Palestinian homes in the West Bank, and evictions from East Jerusalem, including Sheikh Jarrah
– Call on Israel to end forcible displacement of villagers in Masafer Yatta
– Increase funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) which supports Palestinian refugees
– Condemn Israel’s undemocratic nation-state law
– Condemn the Israeli government’s attacks on civil society in Israel and Palestine, including the recent designation of six Palestinian human rights groups as “terrorist”
– Condemn the ongoing blockade of Gaza and increase Canadian humanitarian assistance to the people of Gaza
– Condemn military detention of Palestinian children, and reaffirm support for the Convention on the Rights of the Child
– Vote for Palestinian human rights at the United Nations
– End all trade and economic cooperation with illegal settlements in Israel-Palestine
– Suspend the bilateral trade of all arms and related materials with the State of Israel until Palestinian rights are upheld”

Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 16:10 utc | 125

they are at the plant now..
https://t.me/rian_ru/176284

Posted by: james | Sep 1 2022 16:10 utc | 126

@ Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 16:10 utc | 128
use an open thread.. this ain’t it… week in review or whatever.. you give canucks a bad name..

Posted by: james | Sep 1 2022 16:12 utc | 127

Posted by: Bluedog57 | Sep 1 2022 15:42 utc | 117
Thank you bluedog57!
I assume you live near the NPP. Can you give us more perspective from the local people you know without putting yourself in danger?

Posted by: migueljose | Sep 1 2022 16:12 utc | 128

I forgot, please don’t reply on this in this thread.
Thanks

Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 16:13 utc | 129

Usually trying to mash the myriad speculations and undocumented info together about some event is fun but silly. With the NPP mashing up all the Telegram and web speculation actually makes the most sense: Training troops in UK, Johnson’s visit, constant media hype of upcoming nuke disaster, the seemingly mindless shelling that over a month never hit anything critical, the UN intervention, making Russia pull back troops from immediate area to look good for the IAEA, IAEA delays though they are passing through NATO controlled turf, then the assaults today. Everything points to an attempt to bamboozle the Russians and to take the plant. Utterly looney plan given RF resources in the area, maybe it was all supposed to snap together, offensive in the south, offensive in the north, and the NPP. Even if the West only got the NPP it would be the media hype event of the entire war, Zelensky saves the world, and revitalize Western support and get control of a critical resource. The Russians having to take it back could then bring on UN military intervention to save the world from a guaranteed nuke catastrophe. If so, then the UN IAEA was in on the plan.
Remember the initial sanctions tsunami and Donbas provocation last February was supposed to work a treat too, all come together perfectly, Russians too stupid to see it coming. Arrogance and incompetence seem a constant in NATO especially UK-USA at this point. Never learn anything keep sticking their hand in the fire. God help those of us governed by them.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 1 2022 16:13 utc | 130

james… did you not read that the only open thread id days old with over 300 post? really if it bothers you than much go THERE and post.
Done

Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 16:14 utc | 131

As of now (6 pm), there has been ZERO mention on any of the main French news channels of the Ukrainian landing operation near the nuclear power station, despite much (totally Russophobic) discussion of the IAEA inspectors’ visit.
And after excitedly trumpeting the Ukrainian ‘counter-offensive’ on the Kherson front only two days ago (‘who will win – Russia or Ukraine?’), there is now ZERO mention of that as well. I may be biased, but I conclude that this silence means there are no advances to report.

Posted by: B. Wildered | Sep 1 2022 16:19 utc | 132

Update from Intel Slava Z:

🇷🇺🇺🇦 And so what happened today in Energodar. The landing operation was supposed to be the icing on the cake of the Kherson offensive. The Armed Forces of Ukraine prepared it for a long time, trained landings from boats, carefully masked the preparatory measures (which did not prevent our intelligence from carefully monitoring them).
And even though the Kherson offensive operation itself did not go according to plan, the capture of Energdar by a river assault was supposed to neutralize the negative consequences of huge losses and, in general, at the moment, an extremely unsuccessful attempt at a counteroffensive.
As a result, early this morning, 2 barges and up to 30 boats of the Ukrainian landing force began to cross the Dnieper and crossed it directly into a prepared ambush, where Russian Guard soldiers and army aviation were already waiting for them.
One barge was burned right on the way, parts of the landing force were allowed to land on the shore, pressed down by fire and began to methodically and cold-bloodedly destroy. Now up to 60 corpses of Ukrainian fighters of the most elite units lie on the shore, the beauty and pride of the ZSU. The rest swim in the river and feed the fat Dnieper crayfish.
There were instructors from NATO countries, we will find out after examining the corpses, it is quite possible that they were. In any case, the landing operation will go down in the golden annals of the most disastrous operations, and drowned men in the form of Zbroynyh forces emerging from the waters of the Dnieper at night will be part of Little Russian folklore for a long time to come.
“>https://t.me/intelslava/36275

Posted by: Barofsky | Sep 1 2022 16:19 utc | 133

Imo the IAEA visit is a scam to condemn Russia to produce a faked up skripal report and trigger a fake emergency. The commando raid was a failure so they will now move on to plan B and ‘find weapons grade material reprocessed on site by those evil russians’, or something transparently ridiculous.
The IAEA is just a pack of non credible actors and entirely at home in the zelensky theater of the macabre.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 16:21 utc | 134

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 16:21 utc | 137
‘Non-credible actors’
Yes, but who in the ‘Collective West’ knows that? The censorship in the mainstream of society is pretty much total as are the concocted versions of reality that are being played daily.

Posted by: Barofsky | Sep 1 2022 16:24 utc | 135

@ jared | 95
Gonna have to dispute that.
British common law is not codified, but gleaned through the aggregate of judicial decisions over time.
And the inability to enforce a law doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
So I think your assertion against the existence of international law is not on a sound footing. International law, despite disputes about its application in given contexts, is a definable matter well understood by persons with the necessary erudition. Since about 2000 the U.S. and its western minions have found international law to be insufficiently amenable to their machinations and have undermined it (e.g. invasion of Iraq) and obfuscated it with a fallacious substitute (i.e. ‘rules based order’).

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 1 2022 16:28 utc | 136

SOURCE: ASB Military News:
at About 06:00 Moscow time, Ukrainian troops landed on the coast of the Kakhovka reservoir three kilometers northeast of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant in two sabotage groups of up to 60 people on seven boats and attempted to seize the power plant.
They were British trained individuals recently transferred from Poland.
The Kremlin claims that this was an MI6 planned operation orchestrated by Boris Johnson and that Russia had information about the plan and was aware of it happening.
Full statement from Russia:
The Kremlin was aware of the plans of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to take advantage of the arrival of the IAEA mission and carry out an amphibious landing in order to try to seize the Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant and make statements for days that it was Russian special forces.
Under ideal conditions for the work of the DRG, they calculated the task of taking the mission itself hostage and keeping the nuclear power plant under mines, making demands for the complete withdrawal of Russian troops to the territory of Crimea.
Russia claims that Boris Johnson brought the plan of operation and some of the instructors with him as a demobilization chord of his premiership, but if the GUR was successful, he would have refused to transfer power— referring to an international emergency threatening a catastrophe on a planetary scale.
At the moment, 47 DRG fighters have been destroyed, three have been taken prisoner (!), Two are in serious condition between life and death.
A group of 12 people is blocked on three sides and cut off from the water and boats, by 15:00 the CTO will be over.
Zelensky’s statement on this situation is expected in the late afternoon, the head of the IAEA Mission has already been notified of the situation, as well as UN Secretary General Guterres.
The operation was coordinated by MI6 officers from their headquarters in the suburbs of Kyiv (Ukrainian sources confirmed everything the Kremlin said so far, as well as confirming the failures and ambush of Ukrainian special forces)
All 64 DRGs have recently completed training in the UK and traveled from Warsaw to Odessa on 29 August.
– claims Russian Defense Ministry
Russian Armed Forces & Air Force was immediately deployed and sunk the boats. Ka-52s arrived at the same time raising hell onto Ukrainian special forces.
Ukrainian sources claim that the AFU is furious and trying to figure out how Russia was aware of the operation and where it went wrong.
https://t.me/asbmil/4576
This^ was posted Sept 1 @ 21:01.
Obviously info has shifted since then, but it is still *interesting*.
Especially the claim Boris intended to use the crisis as an excuse to stay as PM.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 16:29 utc | 137

Alleged photos of the barge UKR landing force used to land at/near Energodar. You can see it’s very large and probably very old and slow, not exactly something if you want to rely on for stealth.
https://t.me/intelslava/36280

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 16:31 utc | 138

Vragtes #105
“the duplicitous englanders”… That’s how monarchies work. Lying, stealing, unaccountable. Predictable throughout history. That is one thing the French got right.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 16:35 utc | 139

Barges? Let’s try to be serious here. It’s certainly possible that a small SOF team tried to infiltrate somewhere and were turned back or killed but 100+ troops on *barges* trying to land in heavily occupied territory is pretty far from credible. As per tradition, no evidence is presented that this mini-D-Day happened.
Interesting to see TB2 footage from Kherson region hitting a 152mm self-propelled gun. Russia had those drones figured out pretty well and they weren’t a significant factor in Donbas “phase 2” fighting. Seems like Ukraine’s new wild weasels might be having an effect against AA radars in the south, along with documented HIMARS strikes against radar complexes.

Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 1 2022 16:35 utc | 140

no offensive has succeeded without air since 1939 (and possibly 1918).
Posted by: JulianJ | Sep 1 2022 11:43 utc | 19
Tet offensive, I guess. Taliban taking Kabul, a year ago? So, if Ukrainians were attacking Americans without air support… or Ethiopians…
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 1 2022 12:15 utc | 36
Tet offensive was a political success but military failure for the VC. Taliban offensive is technically an exception, though no air component in opposition either. Book is still open on Tigray as its ongoing. NV 1975 spring offensive was successful without an air component. Dien Bien Phu (1954) had no air component, though it was in reality a failed French interdiction effort rather than a VM offensive.

Posted by: Deep Woods | Sep 1 2022 16:35 utc | 141

the MSM has gone from the inane “the russians are shelling the plant they control!” to “there’s constant fighting!” as if the russians are using the ukie tactic of human shields except with plutonium rods or whatever. i’ve actually seen reports of ukrainian workers and guards at the plant “crossing over” and basically saying they prefer to work with the russians currently guarding the place. in light of this insanity it’s not hard to guess why.
another MSM gem making the rounds: “the IAEA wants to take its time but the russians say they only have one day and then GTFO!” i wouldn’t blame the IAEA guys if they did want to rush, though. i doubt they went to school for STEM degrees so they could end up as collateral damage in a barren wasteland.

Posted by: the pair | Sep 1 2022 16:35 utc | 142

Ukrainian sources claim that the AFU is furious and trying to figure out how Russia was aware of the operation and where it went wrong.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 16:29 utc | 140
“Loose lips sink ships”…

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 16:37 utc | 143

Here’s a UKR-friendly, anti-RF facebook by an American. . .[understand your enemy] . . .a key remark: “Since a number of conservatives are making a rather big deal about the “massive” casualties the Ukrainians are taking during their counteroffensive and saying nothing about the Russians hauling ass from many places, here’s military 101. — When you have two near peer adversaries with similar capabilities, the attacker “normally” takes more casualties.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 1 2022 16:41 utc | 144

Ministry of Defense about the attempt to seize the Zaporizhia NPP, the defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kherson region
THE BIGGEST FAILURE OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES AND A MOUNTAIN OF CORPSES: WHAT HAPPENED TODAY IN ENERGODAR?
On September 1, the Kiev regime attempted a major provocation to disrupt the arrival of the IAEA working group at the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant. This is reported by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces are firing at the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant and the meeting place of the IAEA mission with Russian specialists near the village of Vasilyevka. 4 shells exploded at a distance of 400 meters from the first power unit of Zaporizhia NPP. At 6.20 Moscow time on the coast of the Kakhovsky reservoir, three kilometers north-east of the Zaporozhye NPP, 2 sabotage groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, numbering up to 60 people, landed on 7 motor boats.
The saboteurs were blocked by Rosgvardiya soldiers guarding the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant and Russian Army units that came to reinforce them. Currently, a sabotage group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is being destroyed with the involvement of army aviation helicopters. At about 7: 00 Moscow time, units of the Russian Armed Forces stopped an attempt to land a tactical landing party of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on two self-propelled barges that left Nikopol a few kilometers from the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant near the village of Vodiane. As a result of the fire defeat of the Russian armed forces, two self-propelled barges with tactical paratroopers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were sunk. ***
Telegram channel “STORM News” told what happened today in Energodar. Overlordenko’s amphibious operation was supposed to be the cherry on the cake of the Kherson offensive. The APU prepared it for a long time, trained disembarkations from boats, carefully masked preparatory measures (which did not prevent our intelligence from closely monitoring them). And even if the Kherson offensive operation itself went far from according to plan, the capture of Energdar by a river landing was supposed to offset the negative consequences of huge losses and, in general, an extremely unsuccessful counteroffensive attempt at the moment.
As a result, early this morning 2 barges and up to 30 boats of the Ukrainian landing force began to cross the Dnieper and forced it directly into the prepared ambush, where Rosgvardiya fighters and army aviation were already waiting for them. One barge was burned right on the approach, parts of the landing force were allowed to land, pressed down by fire and began to destroy methodically and in cold blood.
Now up to 60 corpses of Ukrainian soldiers of the most elite units lie on the shore, the beauty and pride of the ZSU. The rest swim in the river and feed fat Dnieper crayfish.
There were instructors of NATO countries there, we will find out after examining the corpses, it is quite possible that they were there.
In any case, Operation Overlordenko will be included in the golden chronicle of the most disastrous operations, and drowned men in the form of Zbroyny forces emerging from the waters of the Dnieper at night will long be part of Little Russian folklore.

Posted by: operationoverlordenk | Sep 1 2022 16:42 utc | 145

So there’s a narrative that’s popping up more and more. Apparently a part of the plan would have been to capture the plant, take the IAEA “hostages”, mine the plant and basically threaten Russians to withdraw. Plan ideated by Boris Johnson for “one final victory in Ukraine”, planned by MI6.
Well, I wouldn’t put nothing past them.
https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1565333238025187328

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 16:44 utc | 146

unimperator #141
Thank you for the barge picture. It even looks british 😉
I get a good laugh at the rank amateur idea of sneaking across a waterway at sunrise in a war zone attacking a NPP. That needs magic mushrooms, not coke.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 16:44 utc | 147

uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 16:35 utc | 142
De Gaulle is the one thing the French got right, uncle racist. That and perhaps the batard.

Posted by: Maxx | Sep 1 2022 16:44 utc | 148

I heard on the radio that Grossi has completed his visit and left (satisfied), leaving a team in place. Sounds like he was satisfied there was no problem. There would have been discussions, had it been presented that there were dangers.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 1 2022 16:47 utc | 149

Well – with a story like this, if you can’t trust Agence France Presse, I mean who can you trust? (I’m kidding.)
Per this video in the report in La Presse, there appears to be as many or more journalists, people with cameras, etc., as there are inspectors. Therefore, I think we can assume no one feels at immediate risk of radiation or something kinetic?
https://www.lapresse.ca/international/europe/2022-09-01/guerre-en-ukraine-jour-190/l-aiea-va-rester-a-la-centrale-nucleaire-de-zaporijjia.php
Also some interesting non-descript large security guys in gear with no markings. Who might they be, I wonder.
If those working for the MSM are really affiliated with the CIA, as Udo Ulfkotte reported, then maybe that means there won’t be an attack that would injure the press. Hey, maybe the CIA hopes to replace some of the recruits they lost last year, as b reported on at the time.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/10/cia-laments-about-loss-of-spies-in-russia-and-elsewhere.html

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 1 2022 16:48 utc | 150

Daily Telegraph, UK right wing hack rag, today’s headline. Penny beginning to drop now that the holiday’s are over.
‘ Putin has pulled off a shock win that could destroy the free world.
The Kremlin’s energy war is pushing Europe and the UK towards economic meltdown and socialism.’

Posted by: Oh | Sep 1 2022 16:52 utc | 151

And then, for absolutely no reason, #Putin began trending in Australia.
First up. A tweet from Michael McFail.
Michael McFaul. @McFaul. Putin ‘Failed In This War,’ We’ll Likely Not ‘See Him Recovering’: Ex-US Ambassador.
https://www.ibtimes.com/putin-failed-this-war-will-likely-not-see-him-recovering-ex-us-ambassador-3607037
The Kyiv Independent. @KyivIndependent
Italian media: Italy seizes 11 villas in Sardinia belonging to oligarch close to #Putin. Italian authorities have seized 11 properties belonging to Russian oligarch Viatcheslav Moshe Kantor, the head of one of Russia’s top fertilizer producers, Akron.
Rick Wilson. @TheRickWilson. Oh, that old “fall from a hospital window” as a cause of death. SO on-brand for Putin.
[Yep. The Rick Wilson, who fell for the 4chan trolling, and believed Trump had paid prostitutes to pee on a hotel bed Obama used years prior].
NEXTA. @nexta_tv. #Ukraine has confiscated the assets of Putin’s wallet – Vladimir Yevtushenkov
17 real estate objects with a total area of more than 100 thousand square meters and shares in five Ukrainian enterprises were confiscated from the oligarch.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 16:54 utc | 152

Tom | Sep 1 2022 16:51 utc | 154
“…Where are the vids and pictures of the destroyed barges”
On telegram. Links thick through this very thread.
Or. For you, cnn is busy right this very minute, feverishly construction a palatable pastiche.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 16:59 utc | 153

There are about 15-16 clapped out, poorly maintained, Soviet era nuclear power stations in Ukraine, long past their sell by date, using unsuitable Westinghouse suppled fuel. When the Ukronazis go down to undeniable, total defeat, it is highly likely they will try to use them as dirty bombs if only out of pure spite and malice. This has to be expected. ” Don’t let the Russians have it – punish NATO for not intervening directly to save us.”
The Polacks would do well to shut their lying mouths and stop demanding reparations from Germany. They have already had their “reparations” – at the end of the war the thieving Polacks stole Silesia, Pomerania, Danzig, the southern part of East Prussia, and Stettin from Germany, cities like Breslau, agricultural land and rich mineral deposits, coal, iron, zinc, silver, sulphur. Even pathetic, cringing nonentities like Scholz and Habeck might start reminding them of that.

Posted by: Paul | Sep 1 2022 17:00 utc | 154

korybko’s take:
https://korybko.substack.com/p/why-is-kiev-so-scared-of-the-iaea
and AA’s:
https://awfulavalanche.wordpress.com/2022/09/01/ukraine-war-day-190-nuclear-plant-attacked/
both contain useful links for context and such.

Posted by: the pair | Sep 1 2022 17:04 utc | 155

DaVinci @ 107
From tree surgeon to medic on the front line. Am I missing someones morbid sense of humor?

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 1 2022 17:04 utc | 156

UN commends on a job well done.
“We are glad that Russia has done everything necessary to protect the IAEA inspectors — the UN positively assessed the prevention of the Russian Federation’s seizure of the NPP by Ukrainian saboteurs”.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/18022

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 17:08 utc | 157

As of this morning the Russian MoD total of Ukrainian losses in their Kherson offensive are already 241 armored vehicles and more than 2050 soldiers wasted. It is open steppes countryside with little to no cover apart from a few villages which are now flattened. This has turned into a real slaughter zone for Russian artillery and aviation.
Social media reports large numbers of ambulances into the main hospitals in the area, in Odessa.
Utter madness for a couple of days of PR glory.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 1 2022 17:09 utc | 158

Can this be confirmed?
(Taken from twitter)
Fun fact: “There are no UK/US personnel on the inspection team.”
?
If the plan was to sacrifice the IKEA (thx leprechaun) team…. Then it makes sense.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 17:11 utc | 159

Ergo: Experts stay longer in the nuclear power plant.
What Zelenski will not be happy and is rather another defeat for him. When will the military leadership have had enough of him?
.
Experts of the IAEA, led by the agency’s Director General Rafael Grossi, left the liberated area of the Zaporozhye region, RIA Novosti correspondent reports.
The IAEA mission, led by Grossi, arrived at the Zaporozhye NPP on Thursday, and members of the delegation were shown around the area and showed the parts of the station that had been damaged by the shelling by Ukrainian troops.
As Energodar chief of administration Alexander Volga said in the evening, 8-12 members of the IAEA mission stayed in the nuclear power plant, the remaining experts, led by Grossi, had to leave Energodar before 20.00. Grossi explained that the IAEA delegation gathered a lot of information and he saw the most important things he wanted to see. In general, the IAEA mission should remain in the region until September 3rd.

Posted by: mon3 | Sep 1 2022 17:12 utc | 160

Bruised northerner 153
According to the “lapresse” article there will be a permanent presence of the inspectors installed at the site.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Sep 1 2022 17:14 utc | 161

@ 165
Ongoing presence confirmed by Grossi himself in the pinned tweet at the top—
https://twitter.com/iaeaorg
Here’s something curious… I just read through Canada’s Globe and Mail’s article about this which was a Reuters re-print. But they added a battlefield map of Ukraine. In the map, both Kiev and Odessa are marked with an “i” in a circle, indicating more information. (When you click on Kiev, it says large gatherings were not allowed for four days for fear of Russian missile attack. On Odessa, it said Russia claimed to have eliminated an ammo depot and something about HIMARS.) The IAEA Twitter account also has an “i” in the circle, after Non-governmental and Non-profit organization in the description at the top.
I don’t know what that means. It’s a common symbol I guess.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 1 2022 17:24 utc | 162

What am I reading?
So the AZ military telegram has a secret sauces account that the CIA is concerned the Brits are using a too-sharp stick to poke the bear.
If this (>) except is close to valid….. could it be the CIA that helped fuck the mi6 James Bond barges and berets escapade ?
SOURCE: Azmilitary1

CIA: London found itself on the brink of a military conflict with Russia
The candidate for the post of Prime Minister Liz Truss played a leading role in shaping British policy towards the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.
In its support for Ukraine, Britain has moved forward more dangerously than most NATO members, using its special forces to train Ukrainians, including on the territory of Ukraine, where their presence was not very desirable.
Now Truss intends to further expand this support framework.
This British activity in Ukraine risks undermining the Biden administration’s stated policy that NATO will not intervene directly in the conflict.
The CIA believes that after Truss takes office as head of government, the White House needs to prevent any further British intervention on the ground and call for the retreat of its military from the front line in Ukraine.
And even better, align London’s participation in supporting Kiev in line with other NATO countries in order to avoid a Third World War.

https://t.me/azmilitary11/18025

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 17:24 utc | 163

This reminds me of another failed British run operation, A bridge too far.
World War II’s Deadly Rapido River Crossing
Back home after the war, division veterans, men who had known combat and the lethal consequences that go with it, were still so incensed over what they felt was a needless sacrifice of human life that they kept a promise they had made years before and thousands of miles away. They petitioned Congress to investigate the Rapido crossing fiasco and take the necessary steps to keep General Mark W. Clark, U.S. Fifth Army commander in Italy, from ever commanding troops in the field again. Their efforts failed and Clark was exonerated. A congressional board of inquiry ruled the attack was necessary and Clark a “middleman” who was simply following orders from British General Harold Alexander, Fifteenth Army Group commander.
The Rhine Crossings in World War II

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 1 2022 17:29 utc | 164

@166 The ‘ongoing presence’ comes as no surprise. No doubt the presence will require a substantial security force.

Posted by: dh | Sep 1 2022 17:33 utc | 165

@JohninMK | Sep 1 2022 17:09 utc | 162
2k dead is nothing, won’t stop them. The operation progress is very slow, it can’t prevent terrorism at all, surely not with 5 soldiers advancing a few km a week. If nothing changes it’ll take a year or more to reach Donbass borders. During all this time terrorism will grow exponentially, using long range weapons too.
As long as there are infinite weapons, a nazi government no one dares to touch and a few kamikaze idiots or mercenaries for each event, it will repeat again and again.

Posted by: rk | Sep 1 2022 17:41 utc | 166

An election in the next few months, directly after Poileivre, Baber, Lewis and Bergen wrest control from the Harper/Mulroney factions can only be better than what we have now.
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 16:10 utc | 128

Seriously??? I received an email from Stephen Harper endorsing Pierre Poilievre. It almost prevented me from voting for him, except that the other candidates are all so dismal.
Trudy-the-feminist may decide she can defeat Poilievre and get a majority by calling another early election, but I doubt it. After the last 2 attempts, Canadians will punish them if they try.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 1 2022 17:41 utc | 167

KA-52 mission this morning in Energodar.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/22412

Posted by: Timur Garajew | Sep 1 2022 17:42 utc | 168

I’m assuming these IAEA ‘experts’ (hmm) were thoroughly searched, each and every one. In particular, the Polish, North Macedonian and the Albanian. Still I’m certain Russia ran the team/group through their database. All I’m saying is remember the Tom Cruise clone in Mission Impossible tearing off his synthetic mask. Am I paranoid, probably, however, when dealing with psychopaths always err on the side of caution?
PS Maybe Scott Ritter and Gonzalo Lira could’ve been invited to attend. What do you mean Gonzalo’s wearing an SBU ankle bracelet?

Posted by: WTFUD | Sep 1 2022 17:48 utc | 169

DH no 170
It will be interesting to see if the shelling stops.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Sep 1 2022 17:51 utc | 170

This mission’s chance of success would have been the same if the attacking forces were loaded into C-130s in an attempt to mount an airdrop on the plant. Any NATO personnel would be dressed as Ukrainians, so IDing them will be very difficult. But for the West, if it’s not reported, it never happened.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 1 2022 18:03 utc | 171

For 112: Any “HMS Jimmy Saville” yet?

Posted by: NoOne | Sep 1 2022 18:11 utc | 172

If true watch out as they try it again and again like they did with Snake Island.
The Russians might simply be trolling the nazis when/if they say they had advanced warning beyond seeing the “2 barges and up to 30 boats”.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 1 2022 18:19 utc | 173

JohninMK@163…it runs till the 8th no matter how many Ukrainians die. The big Weapons Vendor meeting is on Sept 8, where they will decide whether or not to sign new contracts with the Ukraine. Be better for Russia to wait for the meeting and then due to ‘a mistake’ level the building they are meeting in.
I believe that date coincides with the new US terror money tranche coming available to the Ukrainians.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 1 2022 18:21 utc | 174

The IAEA will maintain a permanent mission at Zaporizhia NPP, there is still a lot to be done here – Grossi after a visit to the plant
Video (English) ==> https://t.me/zvezdanews/91237

Posted by: too scents | Sep 1 2022 18:23 utc | 175

@ circumspect | Sep 1 2022 17:29 utc | 169
This reminds me of another failed British run operation, A bridge too far.[Italy]
also
“A Bridge Too Far” was a book written by Cornelius Ryan about a 1944 failure, Operation Market Garden
wiki

Operation Market Garden was an Allied military operation during the Second World War fought in the Netherlands from 17 to 25 September 1944. Its objective was to create a 64 mi (103 km) salient into German territory with a bridgehead over the River Rhine, creating an Allied invasion route into northern Germany.[8] This was to be achieved by two sub-operations: Seizing nine bridges with combined U.S. and British airborne forces (Market) followed by land forces swiftly following over the bridges (Garden).
The airborne operation was planned and undertaken by the First Allied Airborne Army with the land operation by XXX Corps of the British Second Army.[9] Although the largest airborne operation of the war up to that point,[e] Market Garden’s ultimate outcome remains debated: The operation succeeded in liberating the Dutch cities of Eindhoven and Nijmegen along with many towns, and limited V-2 rocket launching sites. However, it failed to secure a bridgehead over the Rhine, with the advance being halted at the river. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 1 2022 18:28 utc | 176

… Plutonium production, uranium enrichment or tritium production by replacing a few fuel rods in a normal reactor load with ‘special’ fuel rods is the real danger. Irradiating those special rods in a normal reactor then removing them during refueling produces ‘spent fuel’ far more suitable for reprocessing into weapons-useable materials.
Posted by: PavewayIV | Sep 1 2022 15:17 utc | 113

Thanks for that! Custom fuel rods for a clandestine weapons program would explain why units 5 & 6 were shut down by UA literally the day after SMO commenced, leaving only units 1 & 4 in operation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhzhia_Nuclear_Power_Plant)
If true, those rods would absolutely prove US / Westinghouse collusion in a UA nuclear weapons program.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 1 2022 18:29 utc | 177

@175 The shelling should stop now. It was designed to get the inspectors in there. They are still working on a way to get NATO in.

Posted by: dh | Sep 1 2022 18:32 utc | 178

Poor western MSM today. In all languages in the unfriendlies, absolutely nothing about Ukie offensive of Energodar NPP (ZNPP) for the whole day. It is actually the 4th day of the counteroffensive of Kherson.

Posted by: rp | Sep 1 2022 18:33 utc | 179

A good article at RT on the latest morale raising measures in Ukraine. A British idea-Thatcherist-the plan is to reduce working people to virtual serfdom, without the benefits of that system, in order to stiffen resistance to the old fashioned ideas espoused by the Donbas.
“In a scheme which may have been devised in far away London, Europe’s lowest paid workforce has just lost some of the few precious protections it had. The measure flies in the face of Ukraine’s apparent ambitions to join the European Union.
“On August 22, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky ratified highly controversial new labor laws, ones that have wide-ranging negative implications for the overwhelming majority of the country’s workers.
“Collectively known as Bill 5371, the legislation robs up to 70 percent of Ukrainian employees of rights and protections provided under the country’s established national labor law, while severely restricting the power of already-embattled trade unions to organize.
“President Zelensky’s ruling Servant of the People party argues the “liberalizing” measures are not only necessary, but long overdue, as a result of Kiev’s “extreme over-regulation of employment” contradicting “principles of market self-regulation [and] modern personnel management,” and creating “bureaucratic barriers both for the self-realization of employees and for raising the competitiveness of employers.”
“By contrast, in the lead-up to Bill 5371’s ratification, a great many groups within and outside the country expressed outcry at the proposed measures over many months. The International Labour Organization (ILO), a United Nations agency charged with ensuring social and economic justice by safeguarding international labor standards, including conditions of freedom, equity, security and dignity in workplaces worldwide, published a withering and extensive analysis of the proposals – as did Ukraine’s own parliamentary committee on EU integration…”
https://www.rt.com/news/561756-ukraine-anti-worker-laws/

Posted by: bevin | Sep 1 2022 18:38 utc | 180

Maybe not an unreasonable question – how do you sneak up on somebody if you’re driving a barge?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 18:39 utc | 181

… It is not possible to guess what the insane will come up with next. That is where we are.
Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 1 2022 15:55 utc | 124

Words of wisdom, many thanks.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 1 2022 18:41 utc | 182

Maybe not an unreasonable question – how do you sneak up on somebody if you’re driving a barge?
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 18:39 utc | 188
How about relying on your advanced units in the fast boats to neutralise the opposition in the area you are crossing and landing in. Also crossing in the dark would help.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 1 2022 18:42 utc | 183

Don Bacon@183
A close relative a Parachutist, no longer, of course around, was taken prisoner at Arnhem. He approved of the movie.
In those days the British Army was fighting against the Nazis, and the Bandera jackals who followed them around looking for unarmed targets, nowadays…

Posted by: bevin | Sep 1 2022 18:44 utc | 184

Opport Knocks@172
Old canadian offers us a choice between Harper and Harper’s political progeny. It is a sad commentary on the state of Canadian politics that rational people could be joining the Tory/Reform party in the hope of an improvement.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 1 2022 18:54 utc | 185

As others have reported there is no reporting of what is going on at the nuke site except the IAEA visit was delayed a bit due to shelling in the area.
A posting at ZH is the only one I have found that has anything about the reality b has provided here and they provide the following quote in the middle of a posting titled
UN Team Arrives At Ukraine Nuclear Plant As Shelling Prompts Reactor Shutdown

In its latest statement, Russia’s defense ministry has denounced the efforts of Ukrainian “saboteurs” alleged to have attempted to seize the plant just as the IAEA was en route.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 1 2022 18:54 utc | 186

I specifically requested you not reply in this thread, but since you did, go to the Non-Ukraine open thread to se my reply.

Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 19:06 utc | 187

farm ecologist 186

Maybe not an unreasonable question – how do you sneak up on somebody if you’re driving a barge?

I thought that too when I saw the barge on Telegram. It’s big and pink, not very military but oh, so woke! JohninMK’s reply is correct but still RF has massive resources in the area, even if they weren’t expecting it and the plan was implemented perfectly Russia would have responded with massive power in an instant. My guess is as the Russians have been mostly keeping their air force out of harm’s way the UK figured the Russians are too chicken to use it rather than that they are judicious. When needed the Russians used their air power full on. I’m not even an armchair general, just a lawn chair private but the UK plan looks stupid seven ways to Sunday.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 1 2022 19:14 utc | 188

The IKEA visit was a ruse. Had nothing to do with the reactor or how it functions. The goal was to make a Play date, have Russia withdraw all it’s air defences, soldiers and equipment from the NPP, otherwise that would prove Ukie point site being used as military base. Once the Russians pulled back leaving just guards, Ukie used ruse to try to seize NPP before Russia could react.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 1 2022 19:20 utc | 189

Maybe not an unreasonable question – how do you sneak up on somebody if you’re driving a barge?
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 18:39 utc | 186
Same way sneaking works at all. Make sure there is no one looking or that anyone who *is* looking doesn’t see you.
As such you either time travel back to 1939 safe in the knowledge that ww2 observation technology was garbage or make sure there’s so much hell going on at the observer shore no one can afford the time to take a look.
Basically hit them with artillery and move in under the curtain. The problem is obviously that if someone DOES look you’re kinda boned cos barges aren’t notoriously ninja like and it turns out alligators can sink ships even faster than loose lips.

Posted by: S.O. | Sep 1 2022 19:24 utc | 190

farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 18:39 utc | 186
Put slippers on its keel.

Posted by: Aspi | Sep 1 2022 19:26 utc | 191

Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
On the morning of September 1, the Kiev regime attempted a major provocation to disrupt the arrival of IAEA expert working group at Zaporozhye nuclear power plant.
At 6:20 a.m., seven fast-moving motorboats landed on the coast of Kakhovskoye reservoir, three kilometres northeast of Zaporozhye NPP, with two sabotage groups of up to 60 people in total.
The sabotage groups were detected and blocked in the drop-off area by Russian National Guard units guarding the territory of Zaporozhye NPP.
A unit of the Russian Armed Forces and helicopters of the army aviation were transfered to reinforce Russian Guard troops in order to suppress an attempt to enter the nuclear power plant and destroy Ukrainian saboteurs.
The destruction of the Ukrainian sabotage group is currently being completed.
At about 7am, units of the Russian Armed Forces prevented another attempted landing to seize a nuclear power plant.
A few kilometres from Zaporozhye NPP near Vodyanoye, an attempt was made to land a tactical airborne assault by AFU two self-propelled barges from Nikopol.
Two self-propelled barges carrying tactical airborne assault of AFU are sunk as a result of the Russian Armed Forces’ shelling.
As of 8am, the Kiev regime has blocked the passage of IAEA expert mission from controlled territory to Zaporozhye NPP.
Ukrainian artillery is shelling the territory of Zaporozhye NPP, the meeting place of IAEA mission with Russian specialists near Vasil’evka, as well as the route of their movement to Energodar.
Four shells exploded 400 metres from the 1st unit of Zaporozhye NPP.
Despite attempts by the Kiev regime to disrupt the visit of IAEA expert group to Zaporozhye NPP, the Russian side confirms its readiness to receive them with full security of further operations.
The situation around the nuclear power plant is difficult but remains under full control.
The Kiev regime continued unsuccessful offensive attempts on Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction.
Russian Aerospace Forces aviation, missile troops and artillery inflicted significant damage on advancing Ukrainian units and reserves.
In the past 24 hours alone, the enemy has lost 31 tanks, 22 infantry fighting vehicles, 18 other armoured combat vehicles, 8 pick-ups with heavy machine guns, 17 pieces of special vehicle equipment and over 350 servicemen in the course of combat operations in this area.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.
As a result of shelling of units of 14th Mechanized Brigade near Russkiye Tishki, an attempted offensive by AFU in Kharkov direction has been thwarted.
The enemy suffered over 50 casualties.
56 survivors of the brigade attempted to retreat in Kharkov direction.
On reaching the north-western outskirts of Saltovka, soldiers of 14th AFU Brigade came under fire from positions of Kraken nationalist formation, which eliminated most of them.
Russian Aerospace Forces high-precision weapons strikes on a temporary deployment point of units of 93rd Mechanized Brigade near Chasov Yar in Donetsk People’s Republic have destroyed over 100 nationalists and 15 pieces of military equipment.
Personnel of units of 72nd Mechanized Brigade near Artemovsk in Donetsk People’s Republic refused to carry out orders from the command, left their positions and went to the rear due to heavy losses, low weaponry and lack of fire support.
Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery strikes continue against military facilities in Ukraine.
4 command posts of 14th Mechanized Brigade of AFU near Kutuzovka in Kharkov Region, battalion command post of 93rd Mechanized Brigade near Dmitrovka in Kharkov Region, as well as 59 artillery units and 144 areas AFU manpower and military equipment concentrations have been hit.
2 AFU command posts have been destroyed by unmanned aerial vehicles near Chasov Yar and Artemovsk of Donetsk People’s Republic.
1 platoon of US M777 howitzers has been destroyed near Andreevka, Kherson Region.
8 missile and artillery weapons and ammunition depots have also been destroyed near Dorozhnyanka, Malinovka in Zaporozhye Region, Kavkaz, Bereznevatoye, Zhovtnevoye, Velykoye Artakovo in Nikolaev Region, Novoukrainka in Donetsk People’s Republic and Kolomiitsy in Dnepropetrovsk Region.
Russian air defence means have shot down 8 unmanned aerial vehicles near Yakovenkovo, Volchiy Yar, Shpakovka, Kislovka, Glinskoye, Kapitolovka in Kharkov Region, Petrovka and Lyubimovka in Kherson Region.
Also intercepted: 1 Tochka-U ballistic missile near Bezymyannoye in Kherson Region and 48 shells of multiple launch rocket systems, including 44 of HIMARS near Muzykovka, Znamenka, Veseloye, Kamenka, Daryivka, Novaya Kakhovka, Berislav, Dnepryany and Tomarino.
2 US-made AGM-88 HARM anti-radar missiles nave been shot down by Russian air defence means near Antonovskyi Bridge.
In total, 280 Ukrainian airplanes and 151 helicopters, 1,852 unmanned aerial vehicles, 371 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,663 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 822 multiple launch rocket systems, 3,363 field artillery and mortars, as well as 5,192 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

Posted by: Deep Woods | Sep 1 2022 19:43 utc | 192

Picture of the grounded and burning barge.
https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1565373473693868035

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 19:46 utc | 193

Bevin #185
Crown prince zelensky signs bill 5371 into law. The people suffer and protest for months and are ignored. Such is monarchy.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 19:56 utc | 194

WHY The russians always publishing some KIA numbers BUT never the corpses!?
There must be lots of corpses of Ukronazis on the battlefield.
The only proof of the claim would be pics or videos of corpses and NOT damaged equipment.
What shall the picture of the barge proof?
Where we can see pictures of these 1700 and 350 ukronazi KIAs?
In Vietnam, Irak, Iran, Korea, Bosnia, Kosovo, Syria, Afghanistan,…..the war parties always proved their KiA claims with pics and videos.
Why the russians re not doing the same?
How to believe those numbers?
Publishing these picture would also shake up the morale of ukronazi troops.

Posted by: Chessmaster | Sep 1 2022 20:06 utc | 195

russia says it today hasforwarded all evidence about Ukr forces attacking NPP….requested Sec Council meeting on Sept 6th.
Maybe some illicit mobile phone chatter gave UKR forces location away as they phoned home to say goodbye to family andd UK instructors comms with
their base back in Kiev .Maybe Russia has their mobile phones all tracked while they were in Uk training. Maybe Russia has excellent acoustic listening facilities as well of course as usual night vision radar etc etc.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 1 2022 20:22 utc | 196

@Chessmaster:there are a *lot* of gruesome videos of corpses, mainly Ukranian, on Telegram. It’s too grisly to watch imo, but if you want it, it’s there.

Posted by: JulianJ | Sep 1 2022 20:25 utc | 197

Entire “128th mountain brigade” died in Kherson offensive, apparently. This one was transferred from somewhere in the west.
https://t.me/asbmil/4633

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 20:26 utc | 198

… could it be the CIA that helped fuck the mi6 James Bond barges and berets escapade ?
SOURCE: Azmilitary1

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 1 2022 17:24 utc | 168

If the early descriptions are accurate, it’s perfectly plausible that the whole operation was designed to be a conspicuous pantomime horse, for the express purpose of tipping off RF, to earn quid pro quo benefits in return.
I’ve suspected for a while that the escalation around ZNPP is an attempt by the US Axis to force RF into a ceasefire at the current lines while returning ZNPP to UA (it’s crippled without it, the EU would have to make up the difference, if it even could). Quite aside from the otherwise impending loss of Odessa and the whole UA coast.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 1 2022 20:31 utc | 199

Keep huffing the copium, Yenwoda

Posted by: nwwoods | Sep 1 2022 20:42 utc | 200