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September 15, 2022
Ukraine SitRep – Hit On Dam Endangers Ukrainian Troops – Russians Defeat More Counterattacks

The BBC continues to misinterpret war news from Ukraine:Ukraine

Ukraine war: Houses flooded after missiles hit major dam

Russian missiles have hit a reservoir dam near the southern Ukrainian city of Kryvyi Rih, officials say.

Residents in some areas were told to evacuate, city head Oleksandr Vilkul said, but he added the situation was under control.

Ukraine said the strike was revenge by Russia for its recent counter-attack.

President Volodymyr Zelensky – who was born in the city – described Russia as a "terrorist state" after the attack on the Karachunivske reservoir.

"You are weaklings who fight civilians," Mr Zelensky said in his late night address on Wednesday. "Scoundrels who, having escaped from the battlefield, are trying to do harm from somewhere far away."

This was an apparent reference to Ukraine's recent military successes in a swift counter-offensive in the country's north-eastern Kharkiv region. It has seen Ukraine's army reclaim swathes of occupied territory, forcing Russian troops to retreat.

In his speech, Mr Zelensky said the reservoir had "no military value at all".

Zelenski is an idiot.

The Ingulet river, which the dam restrained, flows mainly north to south through Kryvyi Rih (Russian spelling: Krivoi Rog, Кривой Рог) to then turn southwest before it ends in the Dnieper.


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On its southwest flowing part it demarcated the border between the Ukrainian and Russian held territory. During the Kherson 'counteroffensive' Ukrainian troops had used pontoon bridges to cross the river and to attack on the southern side. The hopeless attack across bare steppe continued throughout the last days despite huge losses on the Ukrainian side.


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The hit on the dam was not in 'revenge' but will raise the Ingulet river and speed it up. It will wash away those pontoon bridges. The Ukrainian troops south of the river will be without resupplies and more easy to defeat. Or so the Russian's hope …

Moon of Alabama @MoonofA – 17:58 UTC · Sep 14, 2022
Replying to @chinahand

The Ingulets river that dam was on has demarcated the border between Russian troops in Kherson and the Ukrainians. The Ukrainian's crossed it for the Kherson 'counterattack' which is still proceeding. With the river now flooding they will be cut off from the northern side.

Here is a larger overview of the area. The Ukrainian position beyond the Ingulet is on the bottom left.


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LiveUAmap puts the dam strike (yellow circled red bomb at the top) at a dam on a smaller reservoir northeast of Kryvyi Rih. After comparing pictures in the BBC report with aerial pictures I believe that dam hit is on the larger reservoir west of Kryvyi Rih. This is also consistent with reports of damages to water supplies in the city. That water comes from the larger reservoir.

This attack had a clear military value. It is not a 'terrorist' act. Water diversions for military purposes are a standard tactic in larger military operations. In April the Ukrainian side flooded large areas north of Kiev to stop Russian troops from moving towards the city. As the New York Times reported at that time:

All around Demydiv, a village north of Kyiv, residents have been grappling with the aftermath of a severe flood, which under ordinary circumstances would have been yet another misfortune for a people under attack by Russia.

This time, though, it was a tactical victory. The Ukrainians flooded the village intentionally, along with a vast expanse of fields and bogs around it, creating a quagmire that thwarted a Russian tank assault on Kyiv and bought the army precious time to prepare defenses.

The residents of Demydiv paid the price in the rivers of dank green floodwater that engulfed many of their homes. And they couldn’t be more pleased.

After their large move into the Kharkov region, from which the Russian's had withdrawn with only minor losses, the Ukrainian military has become a bit cocky. North of Kharkov it attacked Russian villages and positions across the border. Such attacks could help Russia to mobilize more troops. While the Russian military, aside from a big war, is not allowed to use conscripts in military operations abroad it can use those on the Russian side of the border. This significantly increases the pool of soldiers the Russian military can now use to counter Ukrainian moves.

Ukrainian troops also attempted to attack Lyman which is protecting the southern side of the remaining Russian positions in the Kharkov oblast. Professional Russian troops have now been moved there to replace Luhansk Peoples Republic's militia which had held the city. They will remove the Ukrainian troops hiding in the forests north of the Siverski Donets river.


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The Ukrainians also attempted several smaller counterattacks on Russian positions in the Donbas region. All of those failed.

An expected large Ukrainian attack in the south of the Donbas region towards Mariupol has not yet happened but the Ukrainian side has increased its reconnaissance activities in the area east of Zaporizhzhia.

 

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“The US could do this for ten years. Ukraine has millions of people. It has years and years of cannon fodder left. I can’t imagine Russia desires this operation to last for years. But I am not so certain that it won’t.”
Mmmm no the US cannot do this for 10 years. They are already depleting their arms arsennals and it hasnt even been 1 year.
Ukraine had 30 million ppl. 25% have escaped elsewhere. That leaves 22 million. Then youd have to deduct the 50% that are women. You are down to 11 million. Then you take out the too young and too old. Which is about 40%. You are now down to about 6 million able bodied men. You cant send them all to war as everything would collapse. So logically you would end up with about 4 million able men you can send to fight. Thats all. Already 250k have perished or been disabled in 6 months. Ukraine cannot last more than 2 years at this rate. Max.

Posted by: Comandante | Sep 16 2022 5:35 utc | 301

@Mummer | Sep 15 2022 22:01 utc | 212

So it looks as thought Russia is still feeding a considerable amount of energy to Ukraine. … Why don’t they cut them off altogether?

Russia is and wants to remain a reliable party to commercial contracts. The blockings of deliveries of natural gas is consistently done at the receiving end.

Hydropower and nuclear power won’t run vehicles or military equipment.

The military equipment don’t run on natural gas (*), but trains in Ukraine are electric and the trains are used for transporting military equipment and personnel. So yes, unlike natural gas, hydropower and nuclear power also run military equipment.
(*) Natural gas is not gasoline

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 16 2022 5:49 utc | 302

287 – Yes. I wouldn’t rule out corruption or even treason as a problem in the higher ranks, maybe generals. While I haven’t closely examined the careers of Russian generals, with the exception of Shoygu, it is reasonable to suppose that many started their military ascent in the “greed is good” 1990s.
In the film “Syriana”, an American intelligence character claims the US always wins because of corruption. The Ukrainian elite have clearly been bought and I doubt whether even the Nazi “true believers” are working for free. Buying Russian generals may also be on the agenda.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 16 2022 6:00 utc | 303

We live in interesting times for geopolitical scientists and psychologists. The first category grudgingly ascertain that we not only have to deal with a real war scenario, but also and above all with the detrimental economic and social consequences of the European sanctions against Russia. These hurt Russia, but threaten to turn out to be an unmitigated disaster for Europe. The second category wonders what has led to this faltering policy. The answer to that question is discussed in my article
https://geopolitiekincontext.wordpress.com/2022/09/16/het-schuldig-verzuim-van-onze-overheden-in-het-oekraine-conflict/
that also shows how former European “president” Herman Van Rompuy narrates outright propaganda about the Ukraine crisis. In a current affairs program on Belgian public television VRT, he says unreservedly:
“Let us not forget that the problems we now face are not the EU’s fault. It is the responsibility of the Russian president, who has started a war causing the death of thousands of people, almost 100,000 according to some …” [interruption presenter Bart Schols: “some say he does it because the West has not listened to him for far too long” ] … “do you have to kill 100,000 people for that? Because they have been provoked? Even that is not true! Is that the price one pays for an attack on someone’s sense of honour? That is unimaginable. Unimaginable! We did not know that this was still possible in this century.”
Finally, the article gives the floor to American Columbia University professor and former adviser to three UN secretaries-general, Jeffrey Sachs, who conclusively belies Van Rompuy’s words.

Posted by: Paul-Robert | Sep 16 2022 6:02 utc | 304

264 – Sorge was in jail in Japan by the time of Kursk although he was not executed until the following year. His espionage operation had been blown by then.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 16 2022 6:11 utc | 305

Posted by: Comandante | Sep 16 2022 5:35 utc | 303

. So logically you would end up with about 4 million able men you can send to fight. Thats all. Already 250k have perished or been disabled in 6 months. Ukraine cannot last more than 2 years at this rate. Max.

I have a quibble with your math:
“able men” is a very loosely used term. Of 4 million “able men” 25% are likely to be so effete’, feminised and confrontation averse as to be unfit for service. We’re down to 3 million.
Of 3 million able men, roughly 20% will have psychological, emotional and mental issues including ADD, ADHD, Bipolar, etc. that make them unfit to be commanded or to command. We’re down to about 2.5 million.
Of 2.5 million, about 50% will not meet the IQ requirements to operate in a modern military environment. They’re either drafted as cannon fodder or rejected out of hand. We’re down to 1.25 million “able” men.
Of these 1.25 million able, around 75% (optimistically) have the mental resilience, spiritual fortitude to survive a day on the battlefield. about .25 million will not last beyond the first month of training due to psychological factors alone (including PTSD).
We’re down to about 1 million.
The question now is, does the Ukrainian state have the capacity to train 1 million “able” men in time to make a difference?
And once that pool of 1 million able men is degraded there’s nothing left in Ukraine … Except women and children, perhaps mercenaries …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 16 2022 6:14 utc | 306

308 – Over at the Colonel Cassad Russian website, Boris Rozhin who runs it ran an article that actually seemed to favour the recruitment of convicts (which the Ukrainians reportedly already do).
On the subject of IQ, how bright do you have to be to operate in a modern military environment? I have never served in the armed forces although relatives have. A (female) relative who worked as a nurse looking after what used to be called “mentally handicapped” saw British Army soldiers taking over some sort of duty during industrial action by workers. It might have been a strike by firemen but I am no longer sure. Her comment was that the ordinary soldiers she saw often reminded her of the “high-grade” patients she encountered, who might have IQs in the 60 to 70 range.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 16 2022 6:35 utc | 307

Waldorf | Sep 16 2022 6:00 utc | 305
« « Buying Russian generals may also be on the agenda. » »
This is pure ‘mirroring’ – what Jacques Baud has described in his articles as the westie habit of projecting the defects and faults of their side to attribute the same to the opposing
As exhaustingly described in many reports going back a long time the MIC in the US has directed bought co opted and trained their armed forces to do their bidding, from the tip to toe
Worse – this is doublethink – as US oligarchs buy the Pentagon why should not Russian oligarchs buy Russian generals, or do all these oligarchs trade generals in this very lavish poker game

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 16 2022 6:44 utc | 308

308 – Over at the Colonel Cassad Russian website, Boris Rozhin who runs it ran an article that actually seemed to favour the recruitment of convicts (which the Ukrainians reportedly already do).

I see Wagner group is trawling the prisons of Siberia for young men wanting to turn their lives around. One has to ask though: If they couldn’t make it in regular society with the minimum level of conformity required there, how would they survive in an environment where an extreme level of conformity is required … ?

On the subject of IQ, how bright do you have to be to operate in a modern military environment?

I think the US army standard is minimum 80. However, this was decades ago. I can’t see anyone at that IQ level operating modern automatic weapons and adapting to complex formations, especially in a technologically advanced battlefield environment where a dozen overlapping automated systems are out to “get you”.
Of course, if your sole purpose is to be “rent-a-crowd” with weapons, 80 should be just fine …
Then again, IQ is probably not even the major factor. What about Kinesthetic Intelligence (hand eye coordination)? What good is 200 IQ when one can’t even catch a hand-grenade and pull the pin without tripping over one’s shoelaces ?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 16 2022 6:45 utc | 309

Ukraine keeps gaining in the Kherson region. A number of pundits have ben calling that counter-offensive a failure but it may ultimately be much much worse than Kharkiv was at the rate things are going. The Russians can’t get quickly out across a bridgeless river and will have to abandon even more equipment. The rising river not only didn’t trap the Ukrainians and get them smashed, they advanced (source: “Weeb Union War Updates” on YouTube).
Why can Ukraine blow out the pontoon bridges over the Dnipro river but Russia can’t blow out the pontoon bridges over the Inhulets river? I thought they had equivalents to the HIMARS?
And how did Ukraine allegedly lose so many soldiers, and yet are still advancing?

Posted by: Simon | Sep 16 2022 6:47 utc | 310

SCO UPDATE : Iranian and Russian Presidents hold talks at SCO summit
With the Ukie SMO rumbling on in the background the further deepening of alliances continues at the SCO
https://thecradle.co/Article/News/15708
Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi and Russian President Vladimir Putin held talks on 15 September on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Council (SCO) summit in Uzbekistan, aimed at strengthening the bilateral relationship between the two countries.
According to media reports, Putin announced during the meeting that a Russian delegation representing around 80 companies will be visiting the Islamic Republic the following week, signaling the ever-growing economic relationship between Tehran and Moscow.
Just one day earlier, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian announced his country’s signing of a memorandum allowing Iran’s official entry into the SCO, after the organization approved Tehran’s request for membership last year.
“By signing the document for full membership of the SCO, now Iran has entered a new stage of various economic, commercial, transit and energy cooperation,” Abdollahian said.
The SCO is a political, security, and economic bloc founded and led by China and Russia in 2001, and is increasingly becoming an important tool to counter western hegemony and bypass sanctions
The organization’s member states, which also include India and Pakistan, make up around 40 percent of the world population and around 30 percent of the global GDP. It has been referred to as the world’s largest regional organization.
Recently, Iran and Russia have boosted cooperation in a bid to evade sanctions and build a roadmap for creating a strong economic partnership independent of the west.
Iran’s ambassador to Moscow, Kazem Jalali, revealed on 24 August that the two countries have started conducting trade in their national currencies for the first time. Additionally, officials have stated that Tehran is only months away from joining Moscow’s Mir payment system, which serves as an alternative to western debit and credit card payment systems.
The Islamic Republic also recently completed, through its national shipping firm, its first transport of Russian goods to India via the International North South Transport Corridor (INSTC), a major shipping corridor that will serve as a sanctions-free zone and a viable alternative to the Suez Canal.
Pakistan too:
« Putin also commented that “trade with Iran increased by 81% last year, and there another 30% in the first five months of this year,” according to Mehr News Agency.
Mehr News Agency also reported that the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Shehbaz Sharif, and President Raisi, held a meeting and agreed to form an official committee to strengthen their economic cooperation, as well as Iran’s collaboration and assistance in humanitarian efforts for flood victims in Pakistan.
Furthermore, Tehran will join Moscow’s Mir payment system to counter western sanctions on debit and credit card payment methods. »
Qatar as well: – in an interview 14 September the Emir stated that his country could not replace Russia as a source of gas, and referred to Iran as an important potential ally
« During the interview, Al-Thani also referred to Iran as an “important” potential ally, calling on Qatar’s Gulf neighbors to engage in constructive dialogue with the Islamic Republic.
“We encourage all members of the Gulf Cooperation Council and Iran to engage in dialogue. Of course, there are differences … But we have to sit down and talk about these differences, directly between us and the Iranians, without outside interference,” he said. »
This is how wars are won

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 16 2022 6:59 utc | 311

re: tucenz | Sep 16 2022 5:24 utc | 301
comment was adding to what other commenters had been writing about Dylan (on previous page).
re: IQ and military, search – McNamara’s Morons

Posted by: tucenz | Sep 16 2022 7:02 utc | 312

End of thread and by now all participants must be sleeping. Paveway or whatever, that Matveev guy at the beginning of your ping-pong game with the other Wsomething guy has a no-war banner on his twitter account. Pavel or Sasha or whatever Matveev is something like John Doe or Bob Smith in English, can’t track the guy down. Now don’t get me wrong, what’s happening is a tragedy, war is a tragedy, but there is a very selected group of people now in Russia that are all against war, now, but they did not say a word during eight long years of war against Russians in the Donbass, so their pacifism is very suspicious to me. But more suspicious than their pacifism is the fact that Matveev John Doe in other tweets links to who else, Applebaum, all said.
Concerning inmates to the penal battalions, have to give it to that Prigozhin guy “the cook”, hopefully his speech in the gaol’s courtyard will be translated, good tune to be heard. For the virtue signalers his answer was swift and to the point, don’t want prisoners doing your fighting, send your children to the front.
Nobel prize, if someone like Aleksievich* can get a literature Nobel prize then one song, just one and take your pick of Dylan’s Highway 61 deserves it many times over. Never mind the other Nobel literature prize to some Polack lesbian that the only thing I can think of is not her name but her hairdo, I’m not going to waste any time searching for more info on those wierdoes. End of thread and time to clean up the bar after a rowdy night, good, not many will read this crap and be annoyed.
*That lady pouring all sort of offal to the Soviet Union on her early days wrote an article about Zhelezny Felix Dzerzhinsky the founder of what would become the KGB, I’ll search for the link and those who read Russian will delight themselves with Aleksievich closing her opus with something like “when I grow up and have a child we’ll come together to the tomb of Felix to kneel before the great man” All said and done. One more thing now that I found the link, the title of the article is “Felix Dzerzhinsky Sword and Flame of the Revolution”.
https://pulemjotov.livejournal.com/553761.html

Posted by: Paco | Sep 16 2022 7:09 utc | 313

Morning regimist papers in Europe repeating Zelensky lies regarding mass graves found in Izjum. Ghost of Kiev.
War Party uses exact same playbook for all of their evil wars.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 16 2022 7:24 utc | 314

Posted by: PavewayIV | Sep 15 2022 20:43 utc | 195
That is a very informative thread. ….
Posted by: WJ | Sep 15 2022 21:24 utc | 206

Yes, another good post from PavewayIV, thanks for that.
As to limited use of real RF military, probably multiple factors of choice (some obvious ones):
* casualties – lets locals, volunteers and PMC bear the brunt, to preserve domestic support.
* escalation – NATO can see that it’s not a real beatdown of UA by RF. NATO are obsessed with being able to say Russia-Did-It, let NATO bug-eyes (hehe) escalate to unified command if they must (which they gradually have).
* technology – RF keeps its real warfare technology, secure comms, etc, off the battlefield, in case they’re needed for direct RF-NATO conflict.
The whole thing can look a little messy, but, without the increasingly direct NAZOfication of the remaining UA forces, UA would have collapsed months ago and all of these apparent problems might never have come to light. The forces described by the partisan analyst were more than enough to defeat UA at the start of SMO.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 16 2022 7:33 utc | 315

310 – “Mirroring”? Like greed could not possibly be a motivation?
In the 1990s I did work in Britain examining Russian media and also visited the country in 1992. It gave indications of falling apart and they had replaced Lenin with Gordon Gekko, if not Al Capone, as far as I could see. This was also a time when Russian conscripts in remote outposts might develop malnutrition, because under Yeltsin the armed forces though not the interior troops were allowed to become run down. I have suspicions that crooked officers were selling off their troops’ food although it may simply have been inefficiency in a huge country. Putin pulled Russia back from those depths, one reason the West hates him, but another commentator who says modern Russia is an odd mixture of Soviet leftovers and neo-liberalism hit it on the head – and it is perhaps the latter aspect that might encourage Western corruption attempts.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 16 2022 7:35 utc | 316

“God said to Abraham, Kill me a son. Abe said man, you must be putting me on. God said no, the next time you see me you better run. Abe said where do you want this killing done? God said had it out on Highway 61”

Without the music, Dylan’s lyrics stand revealed as pure doggerel. They said satire was dead when Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, but giving Dylan the prize for literature was even more unbelievable.

Posted by: Herr Ringbone | Sep 16 2022 7:45 utc | 317

Ukrainian militants find themselves in a tactical encirclement in the Kherson direction as the water level rises in the Ingulets river and disables the crossings erected by Ukrainian troops.
Ukrainian Armed Forces found themselves cut out from supplies and in a tactical encirclement, pressed to the water. “They are in a plight there”, said Kirill Stremousov, deputy head of the regional administration.
t.me/asbmil
so i guess its a legit military target . discussion over?

Posted by: hankster | Sep 16 2022 7:48 utc | 318

Herr Ringbone | 319
I’m not sure why there is a Bob Dylan discussion going on in here. But just an FYI (factual correction) that you misquoted the lyrics from Highway 61. I have no idea of where that quote you posted came from but that is not how the song goes.
I am not going to wade in on this Dylan debate otherwise.

Posted by: Just Observing | Sep 16 2022 7:53 utc | 319

it’s a somewhat incorrect quote of a part of the song. not totally accurate, but easily regognizable. discussons at moa often drift off the subject; Dylan interests a number of barflies.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 16 2022 7:58 utc | 320

to wit
Oh, God said to Abraham, “Kill me a son”
Abe say, “Man, you must be puttin’ me on”
God say, “No”, Abe say, “What?”
God say, “You can do what you want Abe
But the next time you see me comin’, you better run”
Well, Abe said, “Where you want this killin’ done?”
God said, “Out on Highway 61”

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 16 2022 7:59 utc | 321

You guys are way overthinking this.
Putin and co. will win, not because of their superior strenght, technology, tactics, whatever.
No they will win because of the ultimate fallacy of westeners.
Apathy.
Plain and simple apathy.
People just don’t care enough. Of course a little bit, when it’s far far away and doesn’t hurt you. Sure people tend to be emotional and caring.
But at the end of the day life goes on, you have to go to work, take care of your life, kids, and you have your own problems. And oh yeah the new Iphone is on the horizon, there’s this new disney+ show that looks interesting, also a bunch of instagram photo’s need uploading …
And then shit gets expensive, and more, and more. And geez the politicians keep shouting I need to care about some fuking country far away and keep spending billions when hey, shit is getting freaking expensive here, wtf …
And it goes on and on … Winter is coming and the apathy is growing.
Context: If you sign a new contract today in my country for gas and electricity, you’re facing a monthly downpayment of 900 euros and more. Energy companies are raking in record profits, and the damn politicians are standing by and watching it all happen.
If by the end of the winter people in the EU are not buring down gouverment buildings, you can only conclude on thing … we goddamn deserve it. F**king sheep being lead to the slaughterhouse.
Whenever I say things like this to friends, coworkers I get labeled an extremist, or guess what, a Russianlover.
Weird living in EU at the moment.

Posted by: wageslave | Sep 16 2022 8:02 utc | 322

pretzelattack | 322
God said to Abraham, “Kill me a son”
Abe say, “Man, you must be puttin’ me on”
God say, “No, ” Abe say, “What?”
God say, “You can do what you want Abe, but
Next time you see me comin’, you better run”
Correct lyrics. I didn’t want to hijack thread but if drifting off of the subject is cool here then OK.
I don’t think Dylan can be explained or sentence diagrammed. You either get his work viscerally or you don’t.

Posted by: Just Observing | Sep 16 2022 8:04 utc | 323

Waldorf | Sep 16 2022 7:35 utc | 318
“Mirroring”? Like greed could not possibly be a motivation?’’
Yes mirroring because all you can think of is close to home but far from the other side
Like most westies you prefer uininformed speculation to evidence and reason : constrained in a mirrorthink frame you prefer ‘maybe ‘ ‘could’ to any logical deductions or reporting of facts
To remind you of how wars are won – the MIC system you have in the states is remarkably in efficient at winning wars, less so at fattening the oligarchs at the expense of everyone
It is reasonable to argue, and to percieve, that winning wars is more efficient than losing them, and results in greater all round prosperity, not only financial but all other kinds
Putin does not resemble Yeltsin – he would not have held on to power for so long without two ingredients – popular approval and a loyal efficient army and generals
Besides as I and others have pointed out many times, the war is a cauldron of uncertainty which both sides are concerned to keep a lid on – the real struggle is taking place in RoW – i.e. energy/commodity markets and alliances, SCO, EEE, BRICS, EAEU etc
The SMO is background noise – draws the attention of the westies while the real action is elsewhere – just as the EU woke up one day, much too late, to find gas had become far too expensive

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 16 2022 8:07 utc | 324

Posted by: Just Observing | Sep 16 2022 7:53 utc | 321
I copied the lyrics from another poster. It’s still doggerel.
Anyway, you’re right, enough of this OT crap.

Posted by: Herr Ringbone | Sep 16 2022 8:11 utc | 325

just to observe the wishes of our host, the discussion has continued, sporadically, on the open thread. I admit b has gotten a bit stricter about this lately, i think influenced by the flood of NATO trolls.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 16 2022 8:13 utc | 326

@ Arch Bungle 308
Is a person who flourishes under Hitler , sane? No. Under Biden, or Johnson? No.
Sanity can only flourish once there is confidence that the leaders we delegate decision making to are competent. Otherwise we have to stop what we are doing and change our leadership.
That is why Putin will win this war even if he loses it. He is fighting for society, and the retarded recidivist right wingers are fighting for the abolition of society.
My point is that is notvthe people who are insane, it is right wing politics.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 16 2022 9:39 utc | 327

petra | Sep 15 2022 17:17 utc | 148
Let the billions of peace-loving people around the world hope and pray that this salvation does indeed come
That’s the rub, petra, we’re down to hoping and praying(doping and braying)…
Retired Col. Richard Black has been a voice of sanity for me since Obama’s felony in Syria. His description of a nuclear strike on Washington is sobering. And yet, ironically, such a strike is probably what it would take to end this persistent psychotic game of thrones, this specter of armageddon.

Posted by: john | Sep 16 2022 10:05 utc | 328

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 16 2022 9:39 utc | 329

My point is that is notvthe people who are insane, it is right wing politics.

You poor lost soul.
It pains me that it should be I who must tell you this:
It is not politics that makes people mad, but people who make mad politics.
As for people, they are the root of all evil and all insanity.
The problem is embedded in the neural wiring of the human brain.
The cure is millions of years in the future, if Life survives that long …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 16 2022 11:10 utc | 329

PavewayIV 282:

I’m still hoping that “Russia will be the savior of the world” prophecy thing comes true.

Of course you realize that will not come true. It is not Russia’s responsibility to save the world, and they are incapable of doing so anyway. Russia’s responsibility is Russia, and that is what they are trying to save. Do not nurture illusions that Russian intentions go beyond that because they don’t.
Of course, one of Russia’s aims is to weaken or destroy the Global Reserve Currency status of the US$, and destroy the petrodollar. To be sure, this will usher in a new and healthier era of global trade. It will also ultimately result in making the US a more attractive destination for investment in REAL economic activity (manufacturing), but it achieves that by demolishing the living standards of the American working and middle classes. The lived experience of this kind of economic revitalization might not be quite what most Americans expect.
There is no painless way to fix what ails America. The least painful way out of America’s terminal death spiral would be socialist revolution (the torches and pitchforks and guns kind of revolution, not the Bernie Sanders polite gradualism kind). I honestly don’t see Americans being up for that kind of effort, what with their being paralyzed by things like “microaggressions”, fear of Twitter cancellation, and the terrifying possibility that someone might use the wrong pronouns on them.
People shouldn’t load the Russians with such high expectations. While I am rooting for the Russians in this war, I am doing so with the knowledge that when they win it will be a disaster for America, at least in the short and medium term.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 16 2022 11:23 utc | 330

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 15 2022 18:17 utc | 161
When Bob Dylan was (bizarrely) awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature, Joni Mitchell said they gave it to the wrong guy. Here is why…
https://youtu.be/7-0lV5qs1Qw
More explicitly,Miles Mathis implies that Joni Mitchell knew that Leonard Cohen wrote Dillon’s songs and wasn’t amused that he allowed himself to be used for the fraud to happen.
Mathis says:
‘This would also explain Joni Mitchell’s very strange comments in 2010,(https://americansongwriter.com/joni-mitchell-returns-clarifies-dylan-comments/) when she said of Dylan:
‘He’s a plagiarist, and his name and voice are fake. Everything about Bob is a deception. We are like night and day, he and I.
Wow, she couldn’t be much clearer than that, could she? And she should know, since she dated Cohen for a year back in the day. Recently she was given a chance to backpedal from her statements, but refused. She attacked the previous interviewer as a “moron” and an “asshole”, but didn’t take back the claims of plagiarism, faking, and deception. She actually added a bit of fuel to the mysterious fire, by saying
I like a lot of Bob’s songs, though musically he’s not very gifted’.
SEE:http://mileswmathis.com/dylan.pdf
‘This exegesis by Miles Mathis about Bob Dylan, the Beatles and the Rolling Stones et al and lyrics written in the 1960s and 1970s entertainment industry is compelling. Those struggling to understand the upside-down, totally changed world we now live in could do worse than read this, and other relevant articles by Mathis. He explains how the Western Khazarian (ostensibly Jew) controlled secret service and entertainment industries have changed our world since the 1950s.

Posted by: Ron Chapman | Sep 16 2022 11:23 utc | 331

PavewayIV @296: “And people will (hopefully) remember that the Clown World was always an illusion used to control them and all they have to do is step outside the whirlpool. That’s how Russia saves the world.”
OK, that is fair enough. At least it is a possibility, even if a little overly optimistic in my opinion. That Clown World delusion is mighty attractive to those who dwell there, so I have my doubts they can get out before that delusion implodes in the most painful way.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 16 2022 11:39 utc | 332

I am convinced the Russians remain masters of the art of maskirovka, and that the masters of empire in Brussels, London, and Washington – as they always have – continue to underestimate Russian strategic acumen, operational capabilities, and clever resourcefulness.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2022 0:46 utc | 241
Agreed. But it appears the obliging Ruskies gave the West the glorious game-changing advance they needed lest their populations start resenting the upcoming gas, heating and shower rationing.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 11:41 utc | 333

james | Sep 16 2022 3:50 utc | 278 – Thanks, but I assure you that nearly everything I post is also speculation. I simply back it up with other’s speculation, creating a kind of all-encompassing speculative multi-verse echo chamber, which ultimately protects the soft spot on my skull from intrusive thoughts and other blunt objects.
Posted by: PavewayIV | Sep 16 2022 4:06 utc | 282
HA ha! Move over Dylan Paveway IV has taken back command of the thread from the mid-west mining town minstrel!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 11:54 utc | 334

326 – I am such a “Westie” that I increasingly think Stalin took the right approach. The idea that generals might be recruited by hostile states or intelligence services would not have seemed beyond the pale at all for him. And generals in the USSR had to at least pay lip service to Communist ideals. Putin’s generals do not. “Hey, General X. Two million dollars will be transferred into your account if you withdraw your troops forty kilometres.” An unthinkable scenario?

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 16 2022 12:09 utc | 335

Why doesn’t Europe and the EU realize that its greatest enemy is the United States and not Russia?
Posted by: Technophobe | Sep 15 2022 20:00 utc | 186
It’s who or what has captured the US. They need denazification too.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 12:15 utc | 336

The wider problem is similar to the problem in 1905. I wonder if East Asian states will try to bite a slice off Russia and chase out Russians from these territories.

Posted by: Wokechoke | Sep 16 2022 12:35 utc | 337

aristodemos@255:
fantastic post, especially talking about Desolation Row, his, dare I say, his magnus
opus.

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 16 2022 13:40 utc | 338

john@330:
Col. Black really laid it out there regarding nuclear war, he also ripped today’s general, flag, officers a new one. Fantastic interview and amazingly the interviewer allowed him to speak freely and at length.

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 16 2022 13:50 utc | 339

I can only note that Russian experts are inclined to assess what happened as an unsuccessful attack by the Ukronazis. In the sense that it was the Ukronazis who struck the dam, thinking that the flooding would cause damage to the Russian army. But the opposite happened. In fact, the Ukronazis hurt themselves.

Posted by: alaff | Sep 16 2022 13:52 utc | 340

Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 11:54 utc | 336 – Fun fact, Scorpion. I went to the University of Minnesota a few decades after Robert Zimmerman didn’t. I was looking for housing around Dinkytown, and was randomly visiting places advertised in the student newspaper. One was above the old Grey’s Drug Store where Dylan supposedly lived. It smelled like old cat urine and natural gas in the hallway, so much so that it made my eyes water. I passed.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Sep 16 2022 15:30 utc | 341

Re: Woodchippers
I have been advocating for bringing back the Trébuchet, not as a siege weapon, but as an execution device (like the Guillotine). Fling those « great leaders » across the sky, and let them land where and how they may.
A woodchipper on a telescopic robotized arm might fit well as the « catching » half of the equation.
Maybe make a game show/televised event out of it.

Posted by: Featherless | Sep 16 2022 18:11 utc | 342

wageslave | Sep 16 2022 8:02 utc | 324
Word…Conditions in Southern California are catching up fast…

Posted by: donten | Sep 16 2022 21:25 utc | 343

YAY ! Daily Stormer is back online !

Posted by: Featherless | Sep 16 2022 22:50 utc | 344

bleu azur | Sep 17 2022 1:40 utc | 347
If anyone besides Russia is victorious in this pitting of powers it won’t be the Ukraine. There is nothing left of it at this point beyond a fragmented (by choice of the inhabitants) hollow shell, blown full of Western Empire weapons aided by Western Empire technology and intel and mercenaries and an exceptional amount of propaganda. There are no “Ukrainian” forces doing or having done impossible things. There are however the equivalent of ISIS or any of a number of other sicko psycho’s put together by the Agents of Chaos who provide the wholly evil vision exemplified by the acts of the Western Empire.

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Sep 17 2022 22:59 utc | 345