Marko-6: I think that over time there has been a kind of conditioning and indoctrination, which goes hand in hand with the whole Mass Formation Psychosis biznuss. Add to that mass corruption, bribery and even blackmail. Notice how many so called leaders went to “WEF summer camp”? As for myself I became aware that something was fishy around the year 2000 and have been building composite models ever since…..

Posted by: Chevrus | Sep 29 2022 18:41 utc | 4

Sorry for the spelling! I thought I hit preview but hit post on accident 🙁

Posted by: James C | Sep 29 2022 18:43 utc | 6

@ number 3:
Media estate controlled brain washing 24/7 for let’s say the last (I was going to say 75 years)…250 years at least!!!

Posted by: Donostiarra | Sep 29 2022 18:46 utc | 8

Perhaps I am being naive but the NS1&2 sabotage is not being effectively spun to deflect the blame from the most likely suspect, the USA. It just is not plausible. It does not matter if the USA offers to “help” investigate it. It matters not that Sikorski took down his tweet. The memes are flowing fast and free at the speed of the interwebz. You cannot convince the masses of calling everything that does not fit the proscribed narrative as ‘conspiracy theory’ ‘Russia disinformation’ or the ravings of a lunatic. It doesn’t wash and over time it builds momentum. 20 years later you can out the critical thinker with a simple “Building 7”??

Posted by: Chevrus | Sep 29 2022 18:49 utc | 10

My point was the lemmings in the West have no reaction to the pipelines being blown up. Its like they just shrug and keep on grazing the fields waiting for the next instruction from the shepherds.

Posted by: Comandante | Sep 29 2022 18:52 utc | 12

“I think that over time there has been a kind of conditioning and indoctrination, which goes hand in hand with the whole Mass Formation Psychosis biznuss”
What is “Mass Formation Psychosis biznuss”?

Posted by: marko | Sep 29 2022 19:01 utc | 14

Posted by: marko | Sep 29 2022 18:59 utc | 13
Some are getting paid 1000 or so a day. Some are fanatic nationalists on top of that.
Its the same as why mafia criminals are more motivated than law and order officers. Money, status, disregard for the other.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 29 2022 19:07 utc | 16

Exercises on rapid evacuation in the event of a threat of nuclear strikes or man-made disasters are already underway in Poland, the Czech Republic, and the Baltic states.
Who was talking about the Caribbean crisis?
This one may be completely different, and never dreamed of.
Let the negotiations be successful.

This repost by Prilepin suggests that negotiations are taking place in Riyad.

Posted by: Paco | Sep 29 2022 19:09 utc | 18

Forgot the link, here it is.
https://t.me/zakharprilepin/14949

Posted by: Paco | Sep 29 2022 19:11 utc | 20

Marko | 13
At what time does Mercouris discuss Russia troop contracts in that video?

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 29 2022 19:13 utc | 22

James C. [5]
Germany are not rational. You are completely adrift of reality. They are masters of Groupthink and Gleichschaltung.
Marko [13]
Mercouris Staates the obvious. US was so short of troops for Afghanistan and even Iraq it resorted to Stop-Loss Orders which is why recruitment has collapsed
Why do people think soldiers are powered by propaganda ? Ukies are not motivated to be destroyed in artillery barrages so do not spout such tripe
Soldiers do not like war unless they are psychotic

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 29 2022 19:18 utc | 24

More propaganda from Us puppets:
Robert Habeck: “The energy crisis we are in threatens to turn into an economic and social one. A shield of measures is able to repel the Putin regime’s attack on our economy. The decisions of recent years have given Putin too much power over us”

Posted by: rk | Sep 29 2022 19:21 utc | 26

Posted by: marko | Sep 29 2022 19:12 utc | 21
It boils down to this: when you want to teach someone something, you first must make that someone susceptible to learning i.e. open the door. Because learning new stuff needs effort and it is painful mentally. By screaming and yelling you cant do that. You aggravate yourself while the other closes up. So no negative messages. You package the message in a way that the student believes it comes naturally, on top of already existing knowledge (i.e. constructively). Or, more often with young ones, you play the “bucket” where one effort-needing message gets dropped with 3-4 self-esteem messages. This is basic communication stuff, package criticism with praise so that it gets through (smart people of course see through this).
This is all good on paper. But in reality what happens is that students become addicted to the feeling of positivity. They are not learning the “hard way” and building confidence through achievement but rely on good neuro chemicals to even attempt anything hard. And there has to be reward in terms if praise. Such people were failures in the past but nowadays everyone is like that, so they form precious circles and invent stuff to get by. They relativise success. Incompetence rules but most of all, there is no acknowledgement of failure anymore since failure is bad chemicals in the brain.
Case-in-point: Liz Truss.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 29 2022 19:32 utc | 28

Sorry “The National Interest”. not the National Review.

Posted by: Krypton | Sep 29 2022 19:39 utc | 30

Concerning the pipeline sabotage(s)USA denials are yet to be forthcoming.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Sep 29 2022 19:52 utc | 32

I will have to reevaluate my general regard for German people as being mostly intelligent rational thinkers.
Posted by: James C | Sep 29 2022 18:42 utc | 5

You’re mistaken if you think it has to do with intelligence. But it has indeed to do with (ir)rationality.
The few times I posted here on MoA I dropped a few hints at psychology, but not many readers seem to be interested in this topic.
In my opinion the lethargy of the Germans as well as the whole conflict between Russia and the West can only be fully understood if the psychological side is taken into account, too.
Unfortunately I can’t write more since it’s late here in Germany and I have to go to work tomorrow – as long as I still have it.
Psychological knowledge is IMHO most important in these times or as the delphic oracle would have said: “Know thyself!”

Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Sep 29 2022 19:55 utc | 34

I will have to reevaluate my general regard for German people as being mostly intelligent rational thinkers.
Posted by: James C | Sep 29 2022 18:42 utc | 5

You’re mistaken if you think it has to do with intelligence. But it has indeed to do with (ir)rationality.
The few times I posted here on MoA I dropped a few hints at psychology, but not many readers seem to be interested in this topic.
In my opinion the lethargy of the Germans as well as the whole conflict between Russia and the West can only be fully understood if the psychological side is taken into account, too.
Unfortunately I can’t write more since it’s late here in Germany and I have to go to work tomorrow – as long as I still have it.
Psychological knowledge is IMHO most important in these times or as the delphic oracle would have said: “Know thyself!”

Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Sep 29 2022 19:55 utc | 36

A comentator on NC the other day noted that one of – if not the main – drivers of the Ukraine conflict was the Nordstream pipeline. For years now the US and its select European lackeys (Poland primarily) have been working to break thiw main connection betweeen German and Russian economic integration. Provoking Russia over Ukraine has been a means to an end. Now that the pipelines are history there may be less need to prop up and encourage the crazies in Ukraine. The US is still as fascist as ever, the Ukranian fascists are still as crazed and dangerous as ever, but they are no longer needed in the big scheme of things. From that perspective, a negotiated peace deal may now be acceptable to the US. Not to say that it will be easy or fast, making it happen will be complicated. Poland, Britain, various groups whthin the US and Ukraine all have their axes to grind, but the fate of Ukraine, the famous ¨territorial integrity¨ is no longer front and center. Russia too would probably like to have it end sooner than later, they have a number of non-negotiable conditions, but they can probably hold out for quite a while.
Assuming that the US is able to evade responsibility for the attack, two big questions remain: will the conflicts within NATO break into the open (ie Germany/Poland), and what sort of response will we see from Russia.

Posted by: c | Sep 29 2022 20:11 utc | 38

Lots of f’witted trolls today B.
For anyone with a brain looking for a thoughful, informed analysis try this
http://johnhelmer.net/

Posted by: eagle eye | Sep 29 2022 20:28 utc | 40

@marko 1
Don’t vest belief in lies just because they are old. Stalin was a socialist, a democrat and a much nicer person than his murderers who succeeded – and lied – about him.

Posted by: Hermit | Sep 29 2022 20:34 utc | 42

LOL Russia being 1 step behind as usual, of course the US want to curb russian nuclear weapons at this stage while US themselves will not pull back any nuclear missiles from europe!
Russia and US seeking to revive key nuclear deal – Moscow

Moscow and Washington are “engaged in a dialogue” with a view to reviving the New START agreement, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told a briefing on Thursday. New START is a key nuclear arms reduction treaty that puts a cap on the number of deployed nuclear warheads, as well as their delivery vehicles.

https://swentr.site/news/563754-us-russia-nuclear-reduction-treaty/

Posted by: Zanon | Sep 29 2022 20:39 utc | 44

According to the video blog of prof. Igor Panarin Turkeye is pointing at Great Britain as being guilty of the NS1 & NS2 sabotage. Turkeye is afraid the same might happen with the Turkstream gas pipeline in the Black sea. Therefore all British passport holders are being controlled extra on entering Turkeye (of course the same happens with those who have an US passport). President Putin and president Erdogan were in contact today. The sabotage of civilian infrastructure will strengten the determination of BRICS+ leaders to oppose US hegemonism. According to Panarin the sabotage attack will for sure be answered by Russia.
Dima of Military summary expects a huge Russian offensive the coming days. The Ukranian offensive near Krasny Liman has been stalled because of too much loss of blood (+ loss of firepower) on the UAF side. According to British intel the complete powergrid of UA will be demolished: 700 fighter planes are waiting…

Posted by: Oblomovka daydream | Sep 29 2022 20:46 utc | 46

If Russia can defend their new provinces, this marks a structural and substantive win for Russia. Pipelines can be rebuilt, but redrawing the map brings about enormous geopolitical consequences that can last for centuries [i.e. WW1]. It marks a clearly different world than what we had 6 months ago. The Empire indisputably has not won and in a fight with Hypersonic, Nuclear Russia, clearly risks its own neck if it were to make the necessary steps to achieve a win.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Sep 29 2022 20:59 utc | 48

A serious competitor to Russian gas to Europe is Azerbaijani and Turkmenistan gas across Anatolia.
The seriousness of US activity in this area shows they are upping the ante in this region.
Azeri attacks on Armenia and the attempted colour revolution in Iran shows they are going for broke. What will Iran’s response be?
I wonder what would it take to create a tactical nuk false flag? Strategically place some spent rod fragments, Russia drops a thermobraic and voila you’ve got your cassus belli?

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Sep 29 2022 21:00 utc | 50

How come people are so brainwashed?
Off topic, but interesting examples.
Radio 4 had an assemblage of financial analyst/ reporters discussing gilts , bonds, pensions etc after the budget. The more they talked the more incomprehensible they became. That is because their only function was to obfuscate what a bunch of crooks the Tories really are.
By contrast in a recent past by Craig Murray a few succinct sentences makes it clear why the pound is now dog turd. The banker want to repeat the crash of 2007/8/9. Truss has given the green light.
My point is, how many times have we all tuned into some high- brow intellectual discussion @ bbc or Guardian, only to find we are slowly being brainwashed by music and smooth patter of neoliberal tripe.
When you start to come out in spots of lie allergy, turn it off.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 29 2022 21:03 utc | 52

Well no matter what is happening in Liman!
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Allied forces launched a devastating offensive along the entire front in the Bakhmut region, reports Izvestia correspondent Denis Kulaga.
“You can hear the multiple missile system working, also supporting cannon artillery. There, on the front line, shock troops go into battle, ”the journalist reports.
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Russia continues to hit on infrastructure facilities of Ukraine – a new explosion sounded in Nikolaev
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The next week will be interesting…!!!
The referendums are over and whoever remembers the beginning knows that Russia only marched into the Donbass AFTER recognition!

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 29 2022 21:09 utc | 54

How is this control implemented?
I’ll give you an example, Finland. Finland is a country of trouth, only truoth. There is no any other trouth than the only trouth.
First this trouth is planted into your brains in elementary school. Critical thinking is punished very efectively with low grades, etc.
Second, when you enter in higher degrees, this discrimination comes even more harsh. In universities your whole graduating may be jeopardized if you don’t agree with the only truth when you are doing yours masters thesis.
Third, when you are finally graduated, for example journalist, you have only handful of opportunities to get the job. Circles are very small and limitted and if you want to pay your mortage you really want to tel the only truth.
If you do still resist the truth, you will end up as a drunken, bitter man in the bar of Kallio, arguing against the truth and nobody does give a shit anyway.
Amen

Posted by: Pavi | Sep 29 2022 21:17 utc | 56

Heavy fire in Dnepropetrovsk
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Kamikaze drones 6 “Geran-2” (Shahed-136) attack target in Nikolaev.
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In Odessa, two explosions are reported in the port area and one in the city center!
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Enemy facility in Dnepropetrovsk burns heavily
Authorities reported that 2 facilities were hit by rocket attacks
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In the Nikolaev area the electric substation burns. There are power outages in the city and region. The attacks continue on din infrastructure constant impacts.
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You see…. it is by no means the case that Ukraine is winning!

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 29 2022 21:21 utc | 58

Maria Zakharova’s Weekly Briefing is now available in Russian. As usual, the Q&A session is very informative. Here is one that IMO is more important than others, but isn’t to say that those others aren’t important:

Question: Relations between Russia and the United States have been deteriorating for a long time. In particular, there were statements that diplomatic relations could be severed. What happens in this case? What are the practical consequences of such a gap?
Answer: I would not like to go into hypothetical arguments on this topic. We did not initiate the destruction of bilateral relations with the United States of America. If we talk theoretically, then we need to turn to the ideologists of this “movement”, and they are in Washington. The United States, not Russia, deliberately brought down bilateral relations. They have done this in different ways over the years: endless sanctions, work aimed at severing our natural relations with many Western countries, restrictions on the work of our diplomatic missions, creating threats and obstacles to the work of Russian business, seizing buildings and structures enjoying diplomatic immunity, kidnapping Russian citizens, subjecting Russian citizens to information and political pressure, blackmailing Russian citizens, corporations, entire segments of society. In fact, relations were dismantled: visa “dirty” games, segregation, interference in internal affairs.
The United States has declared the goal of inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia in Ukraine, which actually turns itself into a party to the conflict. I don’t know what they have left to do. To announce the severance of diplomatic relations? I don’t know how deep they intend to go in their “destructiveness.”
We have commented on this topic many times. I won’t repeat myself. All assessments of the Russian leadership (the country, foreign policy and other departments) are relevant.
Neither initially nor recently – we have never initiated anything that would hit bilateral relations. They reacted exclusively to unfriendly actions, and in many cases without the wild anger that filled the actions of the United States. They responded neutrally, unemotionally, so that the blow did not fall on citizens, civil society, and the public.
We saw how the United States acted, which simply trampled bilateral relations in a lively way.

And this one on the act of terrorism:

Question: First Deputy Head of the International Committee of the Federation Council, FSB General Vladimir Dzhabarov said that if the investigation of the situation on the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines confirms the US involvement in the explosions, then “the situation may change dramatically.” What is the current situation on the Nord Stream branches where the accidents occurred? If it is confirmed that the cause of the incident is precisely targeted sabotage, what actions can Moscow take?
A: The situation has already changed. Calls to stop the activities of Nord Stream, which is an object of civilian infrastructure, intimidation of people serving or participating in the project, promises to “finish” the project – is this not enough?
What westerners did to George Assange just because he published authentic documents and analyzed them, wrote articles. They said that he is a national threat to the United States, etc. Here we observe direct incitement. You don’t have to be a lawyer. You just need to be able to translate three phrases from English and read them in any language. A direct threat to the existence of a civilian infrastructure facility, on which the largest economies of the continent are tied, and the disruption of the functioning of which can lead (which is now happening) colossal environmental problems. This was done by the first persons of America: the president and representatives of the state apparatus, including the US State Department. And how many information materials have been ordered, planted, prepared for this purpose over all these years – it is impossible to count. Isn’t that enough to understand who we are dealing with and really assess the relationship with this administration, with this regime? Everything changed a long time ago.
In this case, it is a question of finding the perpetrators and punishing, if it is reliably established that this is a deliberate subversion. You have already seen the wording of our law enforcement agencies. They use the term “international terrorism”. You can check with them for yourself.
We’re not just interested. We are one of the owners of these projects and the owner of the supplied resources.
You can contact the Russian company PJSC Gazprom for comments and clarify what losses we incur. A large number of materials were published on how Russia invested in this project, how much we have suffered due to the destructive actions of the Us administration. There was no doubt about it. We’ve known who we’re dealing with for a long time.
Now the implementation of destructive plans begins, which the American leadership announced and promised to bring them to an end.
Now we see this in practice.

There are some real gems besides the two above. This is an excerpt from one of her answers:
“We consider this world order based on American rules immoral. Not just illegal, but immoral. If we were talking about a country, a state or a regime that would show its best qualities for the benefit of the world, perhaps one could also think about it. And they failed that “mission.” They can only destroy, destabilize, do it on the basis of provocations, frame everyone, push and engage in staged acts. We will react to their such moves, when they speak from a position not even of strength (they always say that Washington is acting from a position of strength – and this is not true), but from a position of boorishness.”
IMO, this Q&A provides some excellent food for discussion. I’ll copy/paste the machine translation to my VK wall so it can be read by those unable to read Russian or provide themselves with a translation.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 29 2022 21:26 utc | 60

However many millions of roubles of gas were released by the USUKIS sabotage of Gazprom pipelines, the US has now been found guilty of carrying out its frequent threats against the Nordstream pipelines.
Menacing threats prevent the victim from protesting too loudly against the bully. But after the bully has blown their cover, and the entire world has witnessed their physical presence at the crime scene, USUKIS can now be ignored , firmly placed in the bad corner.
Biden acting on his threat to use his capability to destroy Nordstream was a very stupid thing to do diplomstically. When reminded of their war crime, USUKIS can only give a rictus grin of the dead corpse, and scuttle back home.
The onev thing you never do when committing war crimes is get caught red-handed, as they were in Iraq. Biden is now in a position of disgrace and humiliation.
It seems as though he has fallen for the bait hook line and sinker.
Born and bred in the briar-patch, Brer Biden.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 29 2022 21:36 utc | 62

You can wish what you want.
Biden = USA will never sue any western country…
Even if you found the Bidens pass in the Baltic Sea !!!!
Keep dreaming

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 29 2022 21:44 utc | 64

🇷🇺 (https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*1VrBjspAa3ZAzHcSoTwfMA.png) Russian-language channel legitimniy (https://t.me/legitimniy/13593): “We immediately wrote (https://t.me/legitimniy/13575) that the blowing up of the gas pipeline branches is the opening of a “pandora’s box” in the case of the world infrastructure war.
Next, we model:
Tankers, barges, bulk carriers will randomly explode.
Attacks on oil and gas platforms in neutral waters.
Planes disappear and fall (everything is easier here, Ukraine has now sold a lot of weapons to the black market, and even more so MANPADS, which will soon emerge).
The global Internet and telecommunications will disappear. After all, all cables run along the bottom of the ocean and seas.
Gas pipelines and oil pipelines will massively fail.
Increase piracy.
Based on all this, the famine in 2023 is already a more real story.
This is what the writers seem to want. After all, everyone knows that Americans own almost all agrarian transnational corporations. Moreover, they are now promoting the larvae for food, and the best thing is to get people to switch to this, because of the need, at least there is something.”

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2022 21:54 utc | 66

Muthaucker | Sep 29 2022 20:12 utc | 39
good read.
Censorship rampaging on B’s site these days.

Posted by: cataphract | Sep 29 2022 21:55 utc | 68

Wilbur | Sep 29 2022 20:57 utc | 54
we all know how the surges work out for an occupying army.

Posted by: cataphract | Sep 29 2022 21:58 utc | 70

Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 29 2022 21:53 utc | 75
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Now what does your comment say about you?
130 international observers say otherwise….
But guys like her are NOT interested in that!
And thanks to your crystal ball, you were sure to be there live!

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 29 2022 22:00 utc | 72

Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 29 2022 22:06 utc | 84
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All of that is a consequence of “Putinism”. The smart people leave and the bootlickers remain.
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What species do they belong to?
To the cowards or to the bootlickers?
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I know what it means to live (40 years) my life under communism!
They also ???
So keep your mouth shut about things you have no idea about!
My senses are sharpened by 40 years, I recognize when a system lies!

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 29 2022 22:12 utc | 74

Comandante | Sep 29 2022 20:35 utc | 46
There has been a major social media disinformation campaign by Ukraine and the west targeting ethnic minorities in Russia especially Turkic minorities. It seems even Mongolia or at least some political figures there were involved. According to Tass about 90,000 Russians crossed the border since the 21st and 60,000 had returned to Russia. I am not sure what normal border crossing numbers would be but I assume a lot that left because of mobilization realized they had been fooled and went home again.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 29 2022 22:23 utc | 76

“Here is how you identify bootlickers…they lick dictators boots. Pretty simple.”
The Azov boots taste better, do they? Or are you just taking it up the ass?

Posted by: line islands | Sep 29 2022 22:31 utc | 78

Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 29 2022 20:12 utc | 39
A site called “American Greatness” – LOL. Is it a The Onion spinoff?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 29 2022 22:34 utc | 80

Sadly, you appear impervious to truth. Worse, you would rather believe propaganda over truth. I only suggest you open your eyes and listen to your own countrymen, they are voting with their feet.
Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 29 2022 22:38 utc | 94
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For one… they are NOT my compatriots although I have spent years in Russia, and yes in Ukraine too!
2) Well, believable or not!!!
About 60,000 of the allegedly about 90,000 who fled returned after they understood that they were not affected at all!!! It was about reservists…not UN servants, NOT students!
And…you noticed that you are NOT welcome….in ANY country in the world not even Germany where Russian business is no longer safe thanks to baiting! Not even in their own former republics!!
Your wife is Ukrainian ….. then certainly with contact in the homeland, I assume West Ukraine?
Then you know how Poles think about you?
If she comes from the East….then she hasn’t been home for a long time!

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 29 2022 22:48 utc | 82

96
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Interestingly, the entire Zaporozhye Oblast was recognized as an independent state?
NO
A period of three years is needed to adjust the legislation of the Zaporozhye region, if it decides to join the territory of the Russian Federation, while an action plan on this issue is already being worked out, Head of the military-civilian region of the Zaporozhye region Das informed the US government Yevgeny Balitsky on Thursday with.
“We are facing a transition period of about three years,” said Balitsky, who arrived in Moscow on Wednesday. “It’s all related to the cadastral system of the territory and the land registry, as well as the tax payment system,” Balitsky said on a program on Russian TV channel Rossiya-24, adding that the roadmap on this issue is currently being drafted.

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 29 2022 22:51 utc | 84

Is there an up to date map of the territory under control of Russia anywhere? I can’t find anything in the western MSM propaganda sphere.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 29 2022 22:54 utc | 86

Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 29 2022 22:58 utc | 103
If you’re in North America or the EU, you’re fooling yourself to think that the “news” where you are is less censored than pretty much anywhere. Here in the US, it’s total information warfare. Sites expressing views or reporting facts contrary to the ‘official’ narrative are subject to seizure of funds, blackout on search engines, censorship in social media, etc.
Also as has been laid out here numerous times, the western “news” agencies don’t even really have feet on the ground where the action is. Foreign correspondents for the major wire services are a thing of the past. I’m sure someone else can remember the article/study I’m thinking of if deemed worth the time to do so. I may find it myself later from home and post.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 29 2022 23:05 utc | 88

@ rk 2
Down South now feels like Down Syndrome after that.

Posted by: WTFUD | Sep 29 2022 23:12 utc | 90

@Mo3 #100:

NO

What is your “NO” supposed to mean? You can follow the link I gave and see for yourself that Putin has signed two decrees recognizing Zaporozhye oblast and Kherson oblast as independent states. The fact that there will be a transition period necessary to adjust legislation (just like in Crimea and Sevastopol) is irrelevant.

Posted by: S | Sep 29 2022 23:15 utc | 92

James @ 101
false flag set up in progress…
Seems plausible from way over here in Canada.
Echoes of Syria, where with every Syrian breakthrough victory they are seized of the insanely counterproductive need to use chemical weapons. Ritual condemnation throughout the globalist infowar Wurlitzer & captured international agencies.
What’s different is that Russia learned to preemptively warn of an impending false flag–but not yet here.
1) The madman at the nuclear switch and 2) that a mobilizing Russia is on the run … are used to make RF nuke attack plausible to brain-rotted media / ‘international community’..
Hell if they can sell RF blowing up NS2, this should be child’s play.
Most useful thing China could do at this point is to say:
We of course energetically support a negotiated solution, but will throw all of our resources–military and industrial–against any nation using nuclear weapons preemptively, which has only been done once in human history.
It would be clear to all that Russia then knows it would be crazy to lose China’s support and indeed to push China into the arms of the West– making it still more implausible that Russia would pull the nuke lever first.
Perhaps the most

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Sep 29 2022 23:19 utc | 94

Marko- #3: It starts with kids from 2-3 yrs up. ( Sunday School?)

Posted by: bbeer | Sep 29 2022 23:25 utc | 96

fyi
Big Serge has some ideas on the importance of the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipelines, among other impo0rrtant things
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/the-war-has-just-begun
Let us briefly meditate on the actual implications of Nordstream’s demise.
Germany loses what little autonomy and flexibility it had, making it even more dependent on the United States.
Russia loses a point of leverage over Europe, reducing the inducements to negotiation.
Poland and Ukraine become even more critical transit hubs for gas.
Russia clearly perceives this as a bridge burning move of sabotage by NATO, designed to back them into a corner. The Russian government has decried it as an act of “international terrorism” and argued that the explosions occurred in areas “controlled by NATO” – the concatenation of these statements is that they blame NATO for an act of terrorism, without explicitly saying that…..
“….For the time being, I expect Russian escalation to remain confined to Ukraine itself, likely coinciding with the deployment of additional Russian ground forces. If Russia feels compelled to undertake an out of theater escalation, targeting American satellites, digital infrastructure, or forces in Syria remain the most likely option…..”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 29 2022 23:31 utc | 98

@ Debsisdead | Sep 29 2022 23:09 utc | 108
lol.. yeah, there is that too.. thanks for the reminder…
@ Paul Damascene | Sep 29 2022 23:19 utc | 114
thanks paul… the past experience of syria looms large here… ditto pauls observation… i was just ruminating and from the news i am seeing they are greasing the pole for this… of course it can only be russia that was the cause of nordsteam… the shit is so off the charts insane, it is hard not to get a bit demented just reading the western msm here…

Posted by: james | Sep 29 2022 23:49 utc | 100