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September 26, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-158
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. Please stick to the topic. The current open thread for other issues is here.
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Posted by: David Levin | Sep 26 2022 16:49 utc | 1 Once the referenda are completed and the Duma houses welcome the Oblasts into the Russian Federation, we might anticipate a notice from the Kremlin that the NATOstani puppet regime in Kiev is on notice to evacuate all their forces from the R.F. Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 17:17 utc | 3 Orgy planned among the Kiev residents if Russia delivers a nuclear strike. 5000 participants so far on party’s telegram channel. Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 17:18 utc | 4 Patrick Lancaster talking with people about the vote. Posted by: jo6pac | Sep 26 2022 17:26 utc | 5 Impressive video (view on a PC) of the Iranian drones now used in Ukraine. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 26 2022 17:40 utc | 6 Jo6pac no.5 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Sep 26 2022 17:42 utc | 7 Izhevsk school shooter was a Pro-Ukrainian Nazi
The shooter was wearing a black shirt with a red swastika on it.
Reuters confirms:
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 26 2022 17:50 utc | 8 @ Jo6pac 5 Posted by: WTFUD | Sep 26 2022 18:01 utc | 9 Did the “coalition of the willing” build new housing for the people in Iraq? Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Sep 26 2022 18:21 utc | 10 According to RT all referenda have passed the required 50% mark. Posted by: Bob | Sep 26 2022 18:30 utc | 11 Yes. Results from today: Kherson 63.58%, Zaporozhye 66.43%, LPR 83.16%, DPR 86.89% Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 18:47 utc | 12 Is there any hard evidence that the “Ukrainian offensive” east of Kharkov was anything other than a small attack? Posted by: Jack | Sep 26 2022 18:50 utc | 13 Preliminary turnout according to the results of the four-day referendum in the Liberated Areas: Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 26 2022 18:52 utc | 14 Several comments I’d read yesterday, mention the real fact that the Western prop-media now strongly pushing a new/best narrative of possible RU-nukes strikes. Posted by: ramsteen_tom | Sep 26 2022 18:54 utc | 15 Name one instance were the Russians have broken through the Ukrainian defensive line and attacked the line from the back. Posted by: Jack | Sep 26 2022 18:54 utc | 16 Re P Lancaster (somewhat OT) Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 26 2022 18:55 utc | 17 @ ok, you don’t know anything about it, you never heard of a cauldron, you never heard of the feint on Kiev…and I bet in another post you will say that losses of Russian soldiers are horrendous…Clearly you are just another troll and I at least will ignore any further comment from you. Posted by: Anthony | Sep 26 2022 19:12 utc | 18 On Telegram there are reports about a pressure loss in NS1 now. Can’t find an official source yet. Vicky must be messing at least one pipe so eu can’t change their sanctions even if they want to. Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 19:13 utc | 19 I hear on Military Summary Channel that Russians are in critical situation on the north front. Russians are unable to stabilize the front, says Dima. Posted by: marko | Sep 26 2022 19:27 utc | 20 One of the main harmful actors in the EU drama is its central bank. I won’t reproduce them but Hudson’s and Nader’s remarks plus the one question asked about the need for the Fed and its answer are critical to understanding how the Money Power exerts essentially dictatorial control over the Outlaw US Empire’s economy. The same to an even greater degree is true of the European Central Bank. These two items from Hudson’s website will help people understand what happened in the USA so they can see why privatized banking isn’t good for themselves or their nation. “Federal Reserve System” and “How the U.S. Treasury avoided Chronic Deflation by Relinquishing Monetary Control to Wall Street”. Dr. Hudson has many articles related to the European Central Bank at his website that can be found using European Central Bank as the search term. This long article provides vital historical context, “Banking Wasn’t Meant to Be Like This”. Posted by: marko | Sep 26 2022 19:27 utc | 20 Posted by: WJ | Sep 26 2022 19:36 utc | 22 Here’s “Jack” again posting the same drivel that he/she/it has spread over multiple threads (multiple times in some of them). I can’t see any downside to banning him/her/it but certainly wouldn’t ask b to bother cleaning up his garbage manually if he’s reluctant to issue bans in such cases: b does a sufficiently stellar job here that he doesn’t need such janitorial diversions. Posted by: StirThePot | Sep 26 2022 19:49 utc | 23 I hear on Military Summary Channel that Russians are in critical situation on the north front. Russians are unable to stabilize the front, says Dima. Posted by: CM of Berlin | Sep 26 2022 19:51 utc | 24 @rk | Sep 26 2022 19:13 utc | 19 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 26 2022 19:53 utc | 25 Ukrainian sources report an attack on the airport in Krivoy Rog, the airport is said to have been completely paralysed. Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 26 2022 19:53 utc | 26 They seem to use attack drones in Odessa region almost daily. This evening multiple hits again. Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 19:54 utc | 27 Mo3 | Sep 26 2022 19:53 utc | 26 Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 19:58 utc | 28 Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 26 2022 19:31 utc | 21 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Sep 26 2022 20:00 utc | 29 Membrum Virile @29– Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 26 2022 20:04 utc | 30 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Sep 26 2022 20:09 utc | 31 Also, on Military Summary, Dima says that there are rumors that Russia is going to use one nuclear bomb to slow down western supply of weapons. Posted by: marko | Sep 26 2022 20:16 utc | 32 Sept 26 (Reuters) – Nord Stream AG, the operator of the Nord Stream 1 undersea gas pipeline from Russia to Germany, said Monday it was looking into causes of a drop in pressure in the pipeline. Posted by: GreyRaven | Sep 26 2022 20:22 utc | 33 The UK’s chief of defence staff hosted talks with the Russian defence attaché at the Ministry of Defence in London. Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 26 2022 20:24 utc | 34 @19 rk Posted by: grippo | Sep 26 2022 20:25 utc | 35 Also, on Military Summary, Dima says that there are rumors that Russia is going to use one nuclear bomb to slow down western supply of weapons. Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 26 2022 20:25 utc | 36 Link to the Reuters NS1 report: Posted by: GreyRaven | Sep 26 2022 20:26 utc | 37 @marko | Sep 26 2022 20:16 utc | 32
I always thought there was something odd about him. Might be right. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 26 2022 20:28 utc | 38 #32 Posted by: Nico | Sep 26 2022 20:28 utc | 39 Hahaha I doubt using a nuke to stop weapons supplies is anywhere on Russian Nuclear Doctrine books. Posted by: Comandante | Sep 26 2022 20:32 utc | 40 Nord Stream 1 Posted by: GreyRaven | Sep 26 2022 20:32 utc | 41 Related to NS2 – Tass – Danish Maritime Authority reported a gas leakage not far from the island of Bornholm. Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 20:33 utc | 42 America’s warning that, if Russia uses a nuke against Ukraine, then the US will react “immediately and decisively.” But I wonder, what exactly does the US mean? Posted by: Rudi | Sep 26 2022 20:34 utc | 43 The NS pressure drops on both pipelines is suspicious indeed. Posted by: Nico | Sep 26 2022 20:35 utc | 44 How it is possible that neocons and US elite is not afraid of nuclear war? Posted by: marko | Sep 26 2022 20:39 utc | 45 Rudi | Sep 26 2022 20:34 utc | 43 Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 20:41 utc | 46 #43 Posted by: Nico | Sep 26 2022 20:44 utc | 47 Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 26 2022 18:55 utc | 17 Posted by: jo6pac | Sep 26 2022 20:48 utc | 48 Posted by: marko | Sep 26 2022 20:39 utc | 45 Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 26 2022 20:50 utc | 49 Norwegian @ 38
While back I made the comment that Scott Ritter is an expert that acts like a kid and Dima is a kid that acts like an expert but sadly no one commented on how clever I was 🙁 So I get to make it again 😊 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 26 2022 21:01 utc | 50 Posted by: grippo | Sep 26 2022 20:25 utc | 35 Posted by: GreyRaven | Sep 26 2022 21:01 utc | 51 @ Rudi | Sep 26 2022 20:34 utc | 43 Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 21:10 utc | 52 Nukes wouldn’t do much damage to troops. Just wipe out towns and cities. Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 26 2022 21:13 utc | 53 LightYearsFromHome | Sep 26 2022 21:01 utc | 50 Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 26 2022 21:21 utc | 54
As well as perhaps an unfortunate collision of torpedo into the hull of an LNG freighter headed for Europe. Posted by: Chris | Sep 26 2022 21:23 utc | 55 Gee, no outbursts aimed at others OT?!? Yet another troll.
Indeed, how will those “leaders” interpret Putin’s vow that nobody wants to touch or repeat:
And the #1 Terrorist nation and global supporter of Terrorism is the Outlaw US Empire/NATO. So, we might see the reversal of the War OF Terror to become a genuine War ON Terrorism’s most prolific practitioner and sponsor. Indeed, the CSTO is also formulated as an anti-terrorist Bloc. And after Lavrov’s UNGA performances, anyone doubting the Outlaw US Empire’s use of terrorism isn’t paying attention or is ideologically blinded. Putin also again directly accused the Outlaw US Empire of using terrorists against Russia and of currently employing terrorist tactics. Altogether Putin used Terror five times in his Mobilization Speech, which Crooke partially repeated above. And we’d all likely agree that war is organized terrorism, and the only reason it isn’t called that is historic precedent, although numerous literary sources have referred to the terror of war through the centuries. Aside from the usual propaganda added via edit, this is an interesting reminder of cooler heads prevailing. If the US/NATO continue on their current path, we will be hoping for others to act in Petrov’s spirit.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 26 2022 21:50 utc | 57 There are clear indications that Russia is preparing to test the nuclear-powered Burevestnik (NATO: SKYFALL) missile. The test site at Pankovo on Novaya Zemlya in the Russian Arctic is extremely remote. Posted by: ZX | Sep 26 2022 21:53 utc | 58 @ Rudi | Sep 26 2022 20:34 utc | 43 Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 26 2022 21:55 utc | 59 That’s encouraging. I was getting concerned about the lack of atomic doomsday superweapons. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 26 2022 21:58 utc | 60 Chris @55– I suggest Russia destroy all the US oil installations in Syria, through which the US are stealing Syrian oil. Posted by: Nico | Sep 26 2022 22:06 utc | 62 Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 26 2022 22:00 utc | 61
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Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 26 2022 22:09 utc | 63 Saw on telegram Putin gave Snowden citizenship today, what’s interesting is that Snowden took it. Granted he has a child born there and this way he can’t be deported and separated which is an imperative for most immigrants. Also with any upcoming war deals like the recent prisoner exchange the USA could say, “throw in Snowden and you have a deal,” and maybe they did. Putin has no love for Snowden and said he considered him a traitor to his country but if it did come down to Putin’s decision he did him a kindness. On the other hand Putin may have had little to do w/ it, Snowden applied and it was just a bureaucratic matter. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 26 2022 22:10 utc | 64 The USA is now winning the economic war. Posted by: young | Sep 26 2022 22:10 utc | 65 “The wreckage of an American AGM-88 HARM missile that fell in the center of Kramatorsk. Earlier, a similar ammunition fell in Konstantinovka, which may indicate serious technical problems with US-supplied missiles.” Posted by: MiniMo | Sep 26 2022 22:12 utc | 66 @Karlof1 61 Posted by: Chris | Sep 26 2022 22:13 utc | 67 Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 18:47 utc | 12
Posted by: sln2002 | Sep 26 2022 22:17 utc | 68 Is there any hard evidence that the “Ukrainian offensive” east of Kharkov was anything other than a small attack? Posted by: Jack | Sep 26 2022 22:25 utc | 69 Yuri Podolyak (war blogger/analyst) claims that the Ukrainian offensive N/NW of Lyman lost momentum. Russian mobilization provides gradually more opportunity to pile reserves to block further advances, and attacks on Lyman directly have failed. Ukrainians are on a long narrow corridor. We’ll see what happens, in the next week or so. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 26 2022 22:27 utc | 70 It seems like several days since a Russian Ministry of Defence daily briefing on the SMO was posted at MoA. (I’d try to post it if I weren’t on a dialup connection.) Posted by: David Levin | Sep 26 2022 22:32 utc | 71 David Levin – Posted by: ZX | Sep 26 2022 22:40 utc | 72 No pint in succumbing to wishful thinking so far the sweeping fascist victory in Italy’s General Elections are concerned. As the leader of the League promised the government- once formed- is likely to last a full five year term. Posted by: bevin | Sep 26 2022 22:45 utc | 73 I am guessing but here is my take on the pssible russian thinking Posted by: watcher | Sep 26 2022 22:48 utc | 74 watcher | Sep 26 2022 22:48 utc | 74 Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 26 2022 22:53 utc | 75 “…Ultimately, this is psychohistorian’s Civilizational War between private finance and humanity. As many are beginning to realize, he’s been correct all along. Because their [Europe’s] political systems generally are far more democratic than the Empire’s, Europeans can more easily elect people that will cater to their interests, which requires leaving the EU and ECB control and returning financial control to government and very restrictive regulation on all aspects of private finance.” Posted by: juliania | Sep 26 2022 22:54 utc | 76
Thank you! Posted by: David Levin | Sep 26 2022 22:55 utc | 77 karlof1 @ 61 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 26 2022 22:57 utc | 78 Posted by: bevin | Sep 26 2022 22:45 utc | 73 Posted by: ZX | Sep 26 2022 23:03 utc | 79 Marko @32 Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 23:06 utc | 80 Rudi@43 Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 23:15 utc | 81 One general about another: Posted by: JB | Sep 26 2022 23:23 utc | 82 Chris@55 Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 23:27 utc | 83 karlof1 @ 61 Posted by: John Kennard | Sep 26 2022 23:43 utc | 84 Tom_Q_Collins @63– A useful rational review by Patrick Lawrence last week of the SCO meetings. Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 27 2022 0:07 utc | 86 I still find it inexplicable that after 7 months of combat that Russia with drones, satellite surveillance and on the ground intel cannot stop the shelling of a region (Donetsk) the size of Massachusettes? What’s up with that? Posted by: Deplorable Cro magno | Sep 27 2022 0:11 utc | 87 LYFH@64: Posted by: morongobill | Sep 27 2022 0:40 utc | 88 marko @32 Posted by: polarbear4 | Sep 27 2022 0:41 utc | 89 For a few weeks we keep seeing the Biden Administration warn Russia not to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Posted by: Rhinoskerous | Sep 27 2022 0:47 utc | 90 Re: Russian use of ‘tactical’ nukes Vk.com and all associated apps taken off app stores worlwide. Posted by: Lozion | Sep 27 2022 1:06 utc | 92 indian punchline today – Posted by: james | Sep 27 2022 1:12 utc | 93 apple – working for the same corrupt empire 24-7…… who whudda thunk it? fuck apple.. Posted by: james | Sep 27 2022 1:14 utc | 94 gotta love orban on the other hand – Posted by: james | Sep 27 2022 1:15 utc | 95 So, no one here can quote a single estimate of the number of West-Ukrainian tanks involved in the “great West-Ukrainian offensive” east of Kharkov. No one can point to an article where some estimate is made. Posted by: Jack | Sep 27 2022 1:21 utc | 96 Jack @16 Posted by: digital dinosaur | Sep 27 2022 1:27 utc | 97 Posted by: Jack | Sep 27 2022 1:21 utc | 96
Dear Jack Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 27 2022 1:29 utc | 98 I am happy to see the reduction in troll activity at the bar but note there are still those that insist on engaging those that ask questions but don’t add value in the comment….and your response is just more worthless textual white noise we have to wade through. Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 27 2022 1:34 utc | 99 ZX@79 Posted by: bevin | Sep 27 2022 1:39 utc | 100 |
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