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September 25, 2022
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An important strategic element in Russia’s SMO is it allows for Russia to fight NATO in a controlled manner, instead of all at once. A NATO invasion of Russia would be far more effective if it used Ukraine as cannon fodder while activating NATO military in its entirety. Instead the Ukrainian cannon fodder gets burnt up for little gain. If NATO decides to go all in, it’s own soldiers will have to take the brunt of the violence.
NATO already provides thousands of mercenaries, weapons, intelligence and other funding. NATO mercenary KIA are pushing 2000. Russia is obviously fighting NATO, but on terms favorable to Russia, strategically a very sound plan.
ICBM’s are hypersonic, but so what? That has been the case since the late 50’s. When one references hypersonic technology one is not referring to ICBM’s, but missiles with an entirely new set of capabilities. In this domain both Russia and China are a head of the west. What this means in practical military terms is up for debate.
Germanies debt to GDP ratio is 60%, better than most other NATO countries, but worse than that of Russia (20%) or China (45%). But that is besides the point as debt isn’t the driving factor in the economic damage caused by energy shortages.
Throw in a little grade school ad hominem for good measure and you’ve got yourself some third rate trolling disconnected from any sort of reality.
Posted by: Haassaan | Sep 26 2022 0:20 utc | 201
An important strategic element in Russia’s SMO is it allows for Russia to fight NATO in a controlled manner, instead of all at once. A NATO invasion of Russia would be far more effective if it used Ukraine as cannon fodder while activating NATO military in its entirety. Instead the Ukrainian cannon fodder gets burnt up for little gain. If NATO decides to go all in, it’s own soldiers will have to take the brunt of the violence.
NATO already provides thousands of mercenaries, weapons, intelligence and other funding. NATO mercenary KIA are pushing 2000. Russia is obviously fighting NATO, but on terms favorable to Russia, strategically a very sound plan.
ICBM’s are hypersonic, but so what? That has been the case since the late 50’s. When one references hypersonic technology one is not referring to ICBM’s, but missiles with an entirely new set of capabilities. In this domain both Russia and China are a head of the west. What this means in practical military terms is up for debate.
Germanies debt to GDP ratio is 60%, better than most other NATO countries, but worse than that of Russia (20%) or China (45%). But that is besides the point as debt isn’t the driving factor in the economic damage caused by energy shortages.
Throw in a little grade school ad hominem for good measure and you’ve got yourself some third rate trolling disconnected from any sort of reality.
Posted by: Haassaan | Sep 26 2022 0:20 utc | 202
Crooke’s al-Mayadeen column is now out, “China, India and Iran Line Up Behind Russia”, the fist half dealing with the title’s topic, the second with the Larger Ukraine picture; a short bit:
“So, we come then to the second order shift in spatial geography that is unrolling in tandem. It too uses Ukraine as pretext: To ‘save Ukraine’ as a symbol for the ‘contemporary’ values for which Europe imagines itself to stand, the European Union has politically subordinated itself to Washington. It has placed its autonomy and security policy in the hands of NATO. Europe effectively now, is an adjunct, a province within the wider American polity.
“The Ukraine pretext is also fodder to a squad of clear-eyed European climate zealots who see the energy crisis as an opportunity to mandate the de-fossilising of Europe, via an imposed command economy — thus placing the European energy policy, too, under the tutelage of Washington.
“This latter stance – embracing energy rationing – effectively allows the US opportunity fully to assimilate Europe into the US economy. It is no coincidence that the Euro and the dollar trade at parity today. A Euro, Eurodollar and Sovereign debt crisis are unfolding with the energy and economic crisis; secondly, they are imposing such structural pressures on the Euro system, as may see its’ ultimate fracture.”
Crooke discusses much of what we discuss at MoA. I again emphasize the SCO’s anti-terrorism aim and what that actually means, which Crooke alludes to between the lines.
With the UNGA over, the Rest of World now has a much better understanding of the Big Picture, Lavrov’s two speeches being verbal H-Bombs applied to failing unipolar hegemony and attempt to be Lord of the World.
@15 tucenz
Care to be a little more to the point next time? Wtf
Posted by: Xeen | Sep 26 2022 0:18 utc | 202
Before scrolling to the timestamp of tucenz’s comment, I’d have guessed it was posted by tncenz.
Posted by: David Levin | Sep 26 2022 0:28 utc | 204
Opport Knocksk@118
Vanguard owned by its shareholders? Huh! One of my friends had been named in his will as his executor by another friend who died last year, probably from dutifully taking the jabs. As the estate executor, my friend has done all he can to get Vanguard to settle with the estate on a measly $10K our late friend had invested with that monstrosity. The matter has gone on for months on end. Vanguard has squadrons of lawyers and accountants who do all they can to keep those dead friend’s modest “deposit” with them. No dice in over a year of hair-pulling haggling.
These investment firms may on paper be controlled by their “shareholders”. So it all looks good to the casual observer. However when it comes to coughing up long overdue funds, they fight like crazy. Is it all merely management policy or is there something far deeper in that engagement?
I would agree with you that the vast majority of the more than 200 descendants of John D. Rottenfeller are nothing more than “trust fund babies”. David, named after his grandfather David Aaronovitch Rockefeller, lived to the ripe old age of 101. Adenochrome can work wonders for the wealthy and well-connected. Shortly after he finally kicked the bucket, his son David Jr. and John D. IV, former Senator for, of all places, West Virginia, got into a big to-do as to who would run clan affairs. To this date I’ve been unable to unearth who won that battle.
After the brothers, John D. II’s sons, finally died off; the Rottenfellers became exceedingly secretive and have done most of their work via various minions, such as Heinrich Kissinger who has been their frontman since 1958, and various cutouts and frontmen. Only a relative handful of the heirs have been retained in the loop. They do, however, happily enjoy their yearly endowments.
It would appear that as an opportunist, you are closely attuned to the financial industry and likely quite attuned to the profferings of the mass media. Evidently, you are infused with a form of cognitive dissonance, as you happily paddle your punt along the streaming of De Nile.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 0:30 utc | 205
Chaka Kagan@132
As for former Secy of $tate, the born-again believer, Michael Pomposity as well as that egregious bassturd John Bolton were almost certainly imposed upon the “orange man” by a combination of his son-in-law as his prime handler and the folks at Langley.
No American president has had actual agency since the CIA took down JFK, RFK and MLK in cleverly coverted assassinations. The Agency runs the U$$A government on behalf of its actual financier owners.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 0:36 utc | 206
David Levin @ 133
Former Senator Arlen Sphincter indeed. The Senate seat was ultimately his reward for his services on behalf of the cabal. Occasionally, my memory-glands refuse to engage and thus I elide the specifics. Thanks for filling in the blank.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 0:39 utc | 207
Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 25 2022 23:36 utc | 197
there is no RF military waiting in the wings. You guys all got took.
I remember many saying the same about the RF during the Georgian war, right up to the point they took Poti and wiped out the Georgian navy in front of the US eyes.
They all looked like fools in the end.
My guess is we’re going to see a humbler gentler you, posting on these forums in a few weeks time, if you’re still posting here at all by then …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2022 0:45 utc | 208
Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 25 2022 23:36 utc | 197
there is no RF military waiting in the wings. You guys all got took.
I remember many saying the same about the RF during the Georgian war, right up to the point they took Poti and wiped out the Georgian navy in front of the US eyes.
They all looked like fools in the end.
My guess is we’re going to see a humbler gentler you, posting on these forums in a few weeks time, if you’re still posting here at all by then …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2022 0:45 utc | 209
Opport Knocks @147
Normalcy über alles, eh? Smug. Attempts at humor. Well trained. Well compensated. The latter pairing are purely speculative at present.
Mine will not be the only couple of eyes following your postings. There is something Ivy Leaguish about you…a whiff of arrogance, a reverse gnosticism. “Don’t look there, it’s just a passing fancy”. “Nothing to see, folks, keep moving.”
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 0:51 utc | 210
Muthaucker | Sep 25 2022 23:57 utc | 201
US ICBM’s fly in a ballistic trajectory, and like a fielder catching a cricket ball, they can also be caught.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 26 2022 0:52 utc | 211
Morongo Bill @148
SO! A pas de deux, peut être? In train immediately after opportunist. How convenient. Perhaps Jung’s law of overloaded coinkydinks comes into play here, eh wot?
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 0:54 utc | 212
The referandums are looking good. Decent turnouts. The kiev assholes must be tearing their straggly hair out of their scaurny little heads. What angers them most is the turnout i think because the bigger the turnout, the more legit the refrendum.
Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Sep 26 2022 0:57 utc | 213
Wen result finish, i do not no, somtime wensday i am think. Any way, let us agree it is final, end, kaput. What vote they are acept by all every one. End of story, kaput, finish. Adios amigos.
Posted by: Julio Mogell | Sep 26 2022 1:04 utc | 214
twocenz@152
Briefly, in the early 90’s I attended a Minnesota Grass Roots Party meeting and even donated fifty bucks to the cause. It was the only political donation I’ve ever made. Never met Bentley, though. A highly individualized man, I would say.
On the other side of the ticket, the Rolling Stone reporter/editors smirkingly introduced the term “conspiracy theory”. That one always sets me off like an M-80 firecracker. That’s the CIA talking and controlling more than a thousand journalists. So now it appears that even Rolling Stone has moved onto the Reservation.
Had the GRP achieved three percent of the vote in any of their candidacies, they would have been eligible for matching funds from the state of Minnesota. One candidate, for state treasurer, I seem to recall, came quite close to the mark with well over 2% of the vote. At the meeting I did attend, my suggestion was that the party broaden out a bit and not be a simple single-issue affair. But stoners will be stoners…particularly if they prefer indica over sativa.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 1:07 utc | 215
Some videos of yesterdays criminal Kiev regime’s shelling which killed 13 civilians in Donetsk…
https://rutube.ru/video/ec3df5bc2d1f2e8b8f01d83f0e90bd18/
RT crew follows Russia’s National Guard on duty in Kherson Region:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Murad_Kherson_region_19:1
Russian special forces open fire on enemy positions:
https://rutube.ru/video/2a65239135623c4481893a16d4d04820/
DPR mortar crew destroys enemy firing positions:
https://rutube.ru/video/7329316d596b73348f73821ad3373a34/
Marines from Russia’s Pacific Fleet on the front line amid ongoing hostilities:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/MoD_Pacific_fleet_marines_1909:a
Russia’s Ka-52 and Mi-28 attack helicopters in action amid conflict:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Mi-28_1909:a
Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 26 2022 1:13 utc | 216
VOTING TURNOUT AFTER 2 DAYS…..
In the LPR, voter turnout for two days was 45.86 percent, in the DPR 55.05 percent, in the Kherson region, the turnout for Friday and Saturday was 31.79 percent and in the Zaporozhye region 35.54 percent.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 25 2022 17:24 utc | 83
Thxs for the update.
This strikes me as disturbingly low. Yes, there are three days left but you’d think more would come at the beginning, no? Do they have to meet a certain percentage threshold to be considered valid, ie at least 70% of eligible voters or some such?
Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 25 2022 23:57 utc | 201
A. RF is not fighting NATO, yet.
Just as well, because once the AFU is gone there’ll be no NATO left to fight. What? You think those croissant munching french soy boys are going to take on the Russian Army?
B. ICBMs are hypersonic too, about Mach 8 if I remember correctly.
But can they evade modern S300 and S400 type systems? Besides, Russia has ICBMs too, you know?
C. Same situation exists for Russian gas infrastructure. Feeling froggy? Jump!
The situation is not the same.
Russian gas infrastructure supplies the globe. Russian gass infrastructure gets hit, the whole world suffers. Nobody gives a shit about European gas infrastructure.
Russian gas infrastructure is defended by the best anti-air defense systems the world has, and if that doesn’t help, it’s defended by the Russian nuclear umbrella. Do you want to see the few LNG terminals Europe has go up in smoke?
D. Germany has no debt. They can survive on US LNG and NG this winter.
They’ll certainly have debt after this winter then …
E. When all you have is threats and bluffs, you are the chump.
So you’re saying the USA is a chump?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2022 1:17 utc | 218
Scorpion @ 218
The figures for three days are already available, so why quote the figures for two?
For example:
https://www.rt.com/russia/563509-donbass-referendums-turnout-figures/
Posted by: Technophobe | Sep 26 2022 1:19 utc | 219
Scorpion
Those percentages you quote are now out of date and are much higher currently.
The voter turnoit is VERY important because it shows that people in those regions have NOT accepted the wests claim of a “sham” election. And that being the case, it matters NOT whether the west recognises the results.
The west should ask itself hiw many people voted in the 2014 coup?
Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 26 2022 1:19 utc | 220
Watcher@199
Somebody’s getting pretty desperate when they take on Mutts and Hackers. Maybe the pay grade is different.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 1:23 utc | 221
karlof1 @177
You are right, I did miss that. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
I often wonder how the Exceptionals in the West will cope with the Global South following China to develop comfortable standards of living despite opposition from the Empire.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 26 2022 1:27 utc | 222
– Despite the sheer number of subversive tactics and strategies available to Russia, it appears that Putin has exercises none of them. Why this is the case would be an interesting discussion.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 17:32 utc | 86
Since Western elites are working overtime to effect a collapse, all RF has to do is provide them with cover so that they can continue in place and complete the job without being kicked out by an angry populace. In short: no more needs to be done. As the collapse continues they will sort of end up doing most of these things to themselves.
@ tonyopmoc | Sep 25 2022 23:40 utc | 198
This is way off topic but if it keeps even one person more comfortable this winter, it is worth the words and treading on the limits of blog policy. I ask the bar’s patience.
I have lived in the old style for most of my adult life, meaning I sleep in an unheated room but for passive heat which rises from the downstairs of this 1883 farmhouse located in flyover country where temps fall to minus 20 F, plus winds, in winter.
My advice is several-fold for being comfortable when sleeping in cold conditions. In my experience, keeping both one’s feet and head warm are the key to comfort and health in cold conditions.
One, always make sure your feet are warm and dry. This means changing your woolen socks when they become damp. Forget cotton or synthetic socks. If feet are really cold, first warm them up with hot water or heat, and then put on dry woolen socks. Never go to bed with cold feet. Kind of like the old maxim, never go to bed at dissonance with your lover. Bad results in both cases.
Two, keep a cozy warm throw blanket on your bed (besides the down comforters) to snuggle around your head, ears and forehead, leaving the mouth uncovered for easy breathing of the frisk air. So, a dual coverlet/blanket approach for comfort, one for most of the body and the other for the head, especially to keep ears, forehead and top of the head warm, with breathing room in the tween.
For young people, perhaps teach them to recognize when their feet are damp so they can change into dry (woolen) socks. Make sure their heads are snuggled in warm comfort when they sleep which requires a separate smaller throw blanket as I said b4.
Posted by: suzan | Sep 26 2022 1:35 utc | 224
Youve godda love this guy…President Putin….
“No one will ever be able to ban or cancel our unique civilisation and rich culture, just as it is impossible to rattle or even less so to destroy the values that make Russian society one and make us one big, united nation”.
Posted by: Pete UK | Sep 26 2022 1:38 utc | 225
Brilliant Analysis. I am in awe. someone earlier posted this:
“I am getting the sense that Nuland/CIA have lost interest in Zelensky and his lack of success for them. And are not a little afraid of what Russia has shown she can do. They won’t renounce their enmity for all things Russian, but they also know the country they nominally represent is not behind them and do not have industrial capacity to fight Russia even if they wanted to. US military recruiting and retention are disaster-land since AUG21.”
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 26 2022 1:51 utc | 226
It would appear that as an opportunist, you are closely attuned to the financial industry and likely quite attuned to the profferings of the mass media. Evidently, you are infused with a form of cognitive dissonance, as you happily paddle your punt along the streaming of De Nile.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 0:30 utc | 206
True, I have family and friends in the financial industry and others who use them to finance large real estate projects. But I do my own investment research.
False, I do not use the MSM for any research or news except for local news. Everything I need is available at my online brokerage, plus investment sites designed for the “little people”.
As for cognitive dissonance, someone once said: “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.” – Yeah, I’m functioning just fine, so let’s go with that.
The point that you seem unable to grasp, is that yesterday’s bogeymen are gone and nothing is to be done about their excesses. The combined wealth of the Rockefeller heirs (which you laughably said was trillions) is a drop in the bucket compared to the current generation of frequently sociopathic billionaires.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 26 2022 1:56 utc | 227
The Kiev terrorist leadership’s days are numbered now. Once the east joins russia, any attack on russia will be the cue to seek and destroy those terrorist leaders. The end is nigh mr zelensky….
Posted by: Martina La Luada | Sep 26 2022 1:56 utc | 228
Clearly the western leaders are collapsing respective (own) economies intentionally. This is done in large part to maintain state of crisis (post covid). The motivations for crisis and strife is well understood. Leaders becoming antagonistic of constituents.
Posted by: jared | Sep 26 2022 2:00 utc | 229
There seem to be a lot of unverifiable scare tactics on this thread posing as information – I would caution newcomers that I don’t believe a lot of what is being said here is any more than guess work.
Please scroll through and do not succumb to suggestions. We simply do not have clear information about the situation at present. It is just as likely that positive developments are taking place, and meanwhile the referendums proceed, which is a good sign.
One of my daughters studied in China through several fairly severe winters. The dormitories had no heating. I asked her how she survived that. She said “We put on more clothes.”
Posted by: juliania | Sep 26 2022 2:04 utc | 230
Posted by: suzan | Sep 26 2022 1:35 utc | 225
suzan,
“I sleep in an unheated room but for passive heat which rises from the downstairs of this 1883 farmhouse located in flyover country where temps fall to minus 20 F, plus winds, in winter.”
Wow Thank You, for your reply which has warmed me up already, and I am not cold.
My wife and I have found the socks incredibly important, whilst camping in the English Peak District earlier this year at a small music festival.
we are getting a bit old, but we still get out.
Thanks for cheering me up.
Good to see some humans here, who have no interest in war.
Tony xx
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 26 2022 2:05 utc | 231
There is something I haven’t thought of maybe a new chainsaw. We have lots of trees round here, and a fresh water stream nearby.
So its survivable.
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 25 2022 23:40 utc | 198
Cut the wood now. Get a splitting axe and split it. Stack it right well ventilated so rain won’t soak it and moisture from atmosphere is wicked away. Then it will burn much better after 3-6 months curing.
If you cut it and try to burn it straight away…. not so good….
(If you know this, forgive; but I know many people in Europe have never used wood for home heating….)
And again: if you can still get them, those kerosene heaters work surprisingly well. I spent three months at high altitude in a cabin in the Rockies in Colorado and was toasty warm throughout and just needed about 20 gallons or so for the whole time.
@201
Germany has no debt? Last time I checked (2 seconds ago), government debt is 60 percent of GDP. And I’ll be curious how much higher that figure will go as Germany’s forced to nationalize Uniper and bail out local utilities with tens or even hundreds of billions of dollars of euros. And that’s before even talking of bank and industrial bailouts.
The American LNG you say is gonna float Germany through winter — this is the same LNG that’s multiples more expensive than Russian gas and has to be unloaded at specialized ports of which there aren’t enough in Europe, right? Just checking we’re on the same page.
Posted by: line islands | Sep 26 2022 2:08 utc | 233
Hate to break it to you, but go on with your dictator fantasies.
Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 25 2022 23:57 utc | 201
The main target of all this stuff is us. Persuading us that our civilization is ending, that our economies are tanking, that our livelihoods are under threat, our prospects dim. And so forth. And then they will come in with their rescue plan, making us an offer we are no longer in any position to refuse.
It seems to be working quite well.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 26 2022 1:19 utc | 221
Thank you for your updates. I responded to the one from much earlier not realizing I was so out of date. I see that since the 2 day one there is now a 3 day one and the returns are more fleshed out. Hopefully the next two days will show even more. Once they get above 50% then the local population knows the results will be valid and they know that they will soon join Russia. Now they know that, perhaps some holding back for fear of Ukie regime reprisals in the event the referenda didn’t pass might feel emboldened to go ahead and cast a vote. In any case, it seems fairly certain that they will soon be in Russia.
I guess I expected higher turnouts from the get-go, but what do I know?
Putin made the mistake of alluding to possible resorting to use of nuclear weapons if neccesary. Of course this is always a possibility, however remote. But now west can use Putins words to plat up the Evil Putin charaterization. Putin would say he doesnt care but such mistakes are what west thrives on. Putin need to show bravado for his own constituents and soft side for wedtern public. I would suggest he use Lavrov filter – that guy is smooth.
Posted by: jared | Sep 26 2022 2:24 utc | 236
@233 If you live in the UK you might want to check with the Forestry Commission before you cut down any trees.
Posted by: dh | Sep 26 2022 2:25 utc | 238
I guess I expected higher turnouts from the get-go, but what do I know?
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 26 2022 2:18 utc | 236
I expect that they stretched the voting over 5 days in order too avoid standing in lines for hours to cast a ballot. Kiev considers the voters criminals, and is not above shelling them. Kiev considers international observers valid military targets, too.
Posted by: Martina | Sep 26 2022 2:28 utc | 239
How can things possibly not be going for plan for Russia? All the armchair generals talk like Russia doesn’t have people and Intel planning and adjusting full time. They aren’t talking about their plans for 1 or 2 hours on an Internet forum based off 1 percent of open source Intel.
Look at the overall picture, Russia invaded and held a line changing them from attacking to defensive.
They have been constantly destroying Ukrainian/ nato resources.
7 months later and one big Ukrainian offensive later russia have consolidated their chosen territories and left Kharkiv / Odessa as bargaining tools once the army mobilises.
Much better to throw the Russian army in now for a walk over then 7 months ago.
If the next month goes as I expect it will, Russia will have played a masterclass strategy against Nato and Ukraine.
Posted by: Badrabbit | Sep 26 2022 2:28 utc | 240
@ juliania | Sep 26 2022 2:04 utc | 231
She said “We put on more clothes.”
Yes, I’m a hiker (and ex-backpacker) and we have a saying: There’s no such thing as prohibitive weather, just insufficient clothing.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 2:32 utc | 241
On the other side of the ticket, the Rolling Stone reporter/editors smirkingly introduced the term “conspiracy theory”. That one always sets me off like an M-80 firecracker.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 1:07 utc | 216
I share your dislike for that term. I would go so far as to say it’s worse than a racial slur. Although both are meaningless labels, this property is overt in a racial slur, whereas “conspiracy theory” is insidious.
Posted by: David Levin | Sep 26 2022 2:36 utc | 242
Posted by: Martina | Sep 26 2022 2:28 utc | 240
I gather that they could not use polling stations because of the risk of attack, so soldiers have been going door to door – possibly not completely consistent with best practice, but no worse than mass mil ins of votes with out close scrutiny.
Posted by: watcher | Sep 26 2022 2:48 utc | 243
@237
“Putin made the mistake of alluding to possible resorting to use of nuclear weapons if neccesary.”
It’s a good point, and you make further good points. But I think Putin had no choice but to flash the nuclear dagger. I believe him when he says NATO’s been telling Russia it’ll lose a nuclear war. And he’s right to flag that the so-called west is now openly discussing overthrowing the Russian government and carving up the Russian Federation. Putin’s message is intended, first, for the western military, which doesn’t suffer from any illusions about what nuclear war means, since they’ll be the ones expected to still show up at work; and second, for the western politicians and capitalists, whose bluster can’t entirely stop his warning from having a chilling effect and inducing second thoughts in the third “target audience,” the western public.
Posted by: line islands | Sep 26 2022 2:49 utc | 244
Turnout statistics for US presidential races
Turnout as % Voting-age population (VAP)
Election
2008 57.1%
2012 53.8%
2016 54.8%
2020 62.0%
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 3:01 utc | 245
The pathetic creatures plugging BellingCat(esque) trash, unlike the Russians, are only fighting for their livelihoods, not their lives. I wish they had the foresight/wherewithal to digest this fact.
Paraphrasing Putin – They’re on our doorstep, we can’t retreat any further.
The satanic empire’s bitten off way more than it can chew – and in the words of Dean Wormer (Animal House) ‘ You’ve Gone Too Far This Time Delta House’
RIP John Belushi
Posted by: WTFUD | Sep 26 2022 3:09 utc | 246
@jared | Sep 26 2022 2:24 utc | 237
Putin made the mistake of alluding to possible resorting to use of nuclear weapons if necessary.
What I’ve seen:
1. Putin was responding to EU threats
2. and he never mentioned nuclear weapons
3. whereas Hope-and-Change regularly said “all options are on the table” and never once got called on it.
I’m from Missouri, the show-me state. Got some Putin quotes for us?
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 3:09 utc | 247
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 26 2022 2:07 utc | 233
“Cut the wood now. Get a splitting axe and split it. Stack it right well ventilated so rain won’t soak it and moisture from atmosphere is wicked away. Then it will burn much better after 3-6 months curing. ”
My wife and I have a son, who is very fit, and we also have an axe…but i think he binned the chainsaw…it might still be in our shed.
We have no plans to cut down trees where we live..
Some of them are the oldest trees in England, and the world.
We love our Trees
We ain’t going to cut them down
We hug them – even me..
Its our responsibilty to protect our trees from human attack
They are still growing out out of the ground and are a lot older than any of us.
Our trees have been shedding nuts for at least 800 years..
Very healthy – full of protein.
Tony
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 26 2022 3:19 utc | 248
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 3:01 utc | 247
2020 62.0%
Does this include midnight mail-in voters who for some unfathomable reason all voted for Biden?
Posted by: averros | Sep 26 2022 3:23 utc | 249
I suppose, if you don’t count 1917-1991.
Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 26 2022 3:00 utc | 246
I guess you mean the time period in which the Soviet Union, despite extensive destruction, grew into a superpower that won WWII and the space race.
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2022 3:39 utc | 250
@ Nobody | Sep 26 2022 3:39 utc | 252
I guess you mean the time period in which the Soviet Union, despite extensive destruction, grew into a superpower that won WWII and the space race.
. . .You’ve earned today’s attaboy.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 3:42 utc | 251
zel upset israel gave them nothing. lolz he just worked out israel works for israel
Posted by: hankster | Sep 26 2022 3:53 utc | 252
Our trees have been shedding nuts for at least 800 years..
Very healthy – full of protein.
Tony
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 26 2022 3:19 utc | 250
I always knew you were landed gentry having a laugh here, tony!
Good for you and those 800 year old tree.
You remind me of my first year at boarding school learning how to pick the best conkers, then soak them in acid, then drill them carefully, then have conker fights. One time I had a grand old conker that got very black and won more than 100 battles. I felt superior to Nelson especially since I had two arms and he only had one. He did have a large ship, I guess, but he never had my grand-dad conker!
Off to Merry Old England in two days for first time in decades. Will be looking at some of your trees. And will be very glad you didn’t cut them down! I guess you’ll have to burn Irish peat bog instead!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cPXsqEdOvA&t=55s
I know nothing about this channel.
Video from 2 days ago thrown up by aggregator.
Bizarre story.
Deaths sentences handed down to people who almost overthrew President Xi last week… maybe….
last i checked germany was a petro chemical giant
it produced very high grade chemistry for pharma and industry
this industrial complex is finely tuned to high grade russian petro and gas product
to use new source feedstock requires redesign of the plants… fuck people are stupid
technical butane as an example.
shit produced here is industrial solvent grade. dirty crap
in german quality production you can use it for technical and pharma work.
it cost people i know serveral million dollars in contaminated end product already
winter is coming
but it wont be heat you have to worry about
but all the pharma products,
some 90% of which have petroleum bases in them
so when you get your colds from no heat,
you can forget going to the pharma for medical assistance
smile
“Winter is Coming”
and its not where you think
sea cuc.
gas in vancouver bc…
$2.33 ltr today for low grade
heard a $1.00 a kwhr for electricity for you shit electric car charge
london area britian today
Posted by: sea cucumber | Sep 26 2022 4:29 utc | 255
“Deaths sentences handed down to people who almost overthrew President Xi last week… maybe….”
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 26 2022 4:06 utc | 256
Absolute rubbish. If you understand US is waging a total asymmetrical war against sovereign states that refuse to be slaves then you must accept that 99.99% non state sources on China are part of the propaganda war.
I’m a foreigner living in China for past 9 years and the people are solidly behind President Xi. Even more so than the support for Putin.
Stop having wet dreams for the death of China.
Posted by: Surferket | Sep 26 2022 4:35 utc | 256
@ Scorpion | Sep 26 2022 4:06 utc | 256
That video was done by Jennifer Zeng, a Chinese-born human rights activist and author, best known for her practice of Falun Gong, the subsequent government suppression of the movement, and the book she wrote about her experience regarding Falun Gong: Witnessing History: One Chinese Woman’s Fight for Freedom and Falun Gong.
She became a practitioner of Falun Gong in 1997. Later, when the government of the People’s Republic of China began to arrest people involved with the group, she was among them. She was in fact arrested four times, and sent to a labor camp, the Beijing Municipal Women’s Re-Education-Through-Labor Camp. — wiki
. . .She’s anti-China.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 4:36 utc | 257
We are all going through tough times at the moment.
Get used to it
The World Lunatics are in Control.
I thought it was just a conspiracy theory
But us poor plebs, have now got these incredibly low energy Christmas lights to decorate our homes with…
And I have just bought a new petrol driven Chainsaw.
I ain’t touching it. The last one scared the shit out of me.
I have however found the electric rotavator highly useful, mainly for digging the earth planting seed potatoes, and seeing food coming up, and burying our very old cats
My wife knows I want another kitten, but keeps saying not yet..
It will probably work out O.K.
Our latest Grandchild hasn’t been born yet.
Fine. I am sure the baby will be ok
I also want a baby kitten
A Cat.
I have almost never had a cat, but I need my wife’s permission,
We have still got loads of cat food left.
She is still cute, and I love her to bits
Tony
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 26 2022 4:37 utc | 258
@ my 259
re: Falun Gong
more from the web. . .
In 2000, Mark Palmer, one of the National Endowment for Democracy’s (NED’s) founders and Vice Chairman of Freedom House—an organization funded entirely by the U.S. Congress—founded a new government-supported group, Friends of Falun Gong (FoFG). . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 4:42 utc | 259
@ my 259
re: Falun Gong
…from the files
Aug 21, 2019
Anti-China Cult Gets U.S. Government Money – Runs Large Pro-Trump Ad Campaign
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/anti-china-cult-gets-us-government-money-runs-large-pro-trump-ad-campaign-.html
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 4:51 utc | 260
Scholtz says the winter EU energy crisis has been solved.
https://youtu.be/ok8hNvjSPlQ
Posted by: Simon | Sep 26 2022 4:58 utc | 262
re: German gas crisis solved
The German government has taken ownership of Uniper and needs to reimburse the Finnish state-owned energy company Fortum, Uniper’s largest shareholder.
Meanwhile, Berlin announced plans last month for a gas surcharge for consumers of 2.4 euro cents per kilowatt hour of electricity starting in October. This was supposed to help importers like Uniper deal with rising market prices.
German news agency dpa and other media on Tuesday reported that Economy Minister Robert Habeck, already facing criticism over the proposal, had “financial doubts” about the constitutionality of the levy, and on whether the potential nationalization of Uniper might affect it. . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 26 2022 5:16 utc | 263
@264
“Scholz says the winter EU energy crisis has been solved.”
“Scholz Says Energy Crisis Presenting One Hurdle After Another“
so which is it? i guess it depends on who’s blackmailing him that day: the german industrial associations or the u.s.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-24/scholz-says-energy-crisis-presenting-one-hurdle-after-another
Posted by: line islands | Sep 26 2022 5:30 utc | 264
Muthaucker [201]
Better research more carefully
Germany has huge debt both federal and state and corporate and personal and huge amounts hidden in KfW
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 26 2022 5:30 utc | 265
Is there any hard evidence that the “Ukrainian offensive” east of Kharkov was anything other than a small attack?
It seems the Russians pulled out of the region to give the Ukrainians a great big media extravaganza.
Posted by: Jack | Sep 26 2022 5:32 utc | 266
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 26 2022 1:56 utc | 228
Which sites do you recommend , Opportunity?
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 26 2022 5:45 utc | 267
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 26 2022 0:30 utc | 206
I agree with all you said apart from one thing. I like reading up on luminaries, and many people say the Rockefellers are Jewish , but I can find no credible mention of that anywhere. Since being in the US from Germany , different members and generations are said to be Episcopalians , Quakers and Baptists.
I would love to see a reference re Jewishness as I also like knowing which powerful people are Jewish.
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 26 2022 5:59 utc | 268
Posted by: Simon | Sep 26 2022 4:58 utc | 264
Yes, Scholz attempts to solve the energy crisis in two ways. Switching from gas to coal and oil (which are also supposed to be banned soon by EU) and on the other hand by making companies not do anything.
We should be reminded what happened for Weimar Republic when they started subsidizing workers and companies not to work or make products, like the EU has been doing now. Albeit for different reasons, Weimar for not having to pay war reparations and EU to advance their dream of a green, planned command economy.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 26 2022 6:01 utc | 269
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 25 2022 18:51 utc | 124
Bastille, what pressure does Russian piped gas run at? Room temp ?
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 26 2022 6:11 utc | 270
@256
Per Don Bacon, this is Falun Gong CIA psyop shit. First mentioned about 3 weeks ago on notorious China hate channel China Uncensored. Nathan Rich does an excellent expose on host Chris Chappell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x15Cmhgb70
Posted by: Jun | Sep 26 2022 6:16 utc | 271
It seems the Russians pulled out of the region to give the Ukrainians a great big media extravaganza.
Posted by: Jack | Sep 26 2022 5:32 utc | 267
Given Sullivans revelations yesterday about the nature of back channel discussions between Russia and the U.S., I could certainly see some horse trading going on.
The Azov battalion and the empty spaces around Kharkov in exchange for an untroubled series of referendums in the 4 regions, perhaps.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 26 2022 6:23 utc | 272
@Night Tripper | Sep 26 2022 6:23 utc | 273
“untroubled”?
It rains missiles, shells and drones. Even a hotel was exploded to kill opposition and reporters, but it seems reporters survived.
Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 6:42 utc | 273
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 25 2022 21:21 utc | 173
I never could understand the “low IQ” mantra of late. When I was in Uni some decades ago , we were taught by secular ,non-woke lecturers that every average IQ person , in every country , is rated as 100 . Each country would need to have its own IQ test because some countries do not have exposure to things we know in the West , and so would score poorly on Western IQ tests.
Am I wrong? How then do we talk about the IQ of Sub-Saharan Africans being supposedly lower ? It can’t be. The average Sub-Saharan African would be IQ 100 , and know how to herd cattle or harvest bananas or count sacks of copra etc. He may be crap at the visual parts of a Western IQ test, because his rural life never had puzzles or mazes or crosswords. Yet… so what? Would we know how to cut blubber from a whale or seal the right way? Or build an igloo? No of course not , but an Eskimo or average intelligence sure would.
So can you please explain to me why this “some races or peoples have lower IQ “ narrative came about?
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 26 2022 6:47 utc | 274
Apparently some large ammunition warehouse burned down in Odessa. ASB military said that there were secondary explosions and fires lasting for several hours.
The new NASAMS debute?
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 26 2022 6:54 utc | 275
Blinky spanked everyone. Announced China is “aggressive” towards Taiwan, Ukr should get all its regions back and Iran is bad bad bad, no deal.
@unimperator | Sep 26 2022 6:54 utc | 276
It seems something big was hit in Ukr right next to Romanian border, close to Black Sea. Must be a large nato weapons storage site or fuel.
Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 7:03 utc | 276
Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 26 2022 6:23 utc | 273
If I understand you correctly, your hypothesis is that the USA is shaping Russian actions actions on the battlefield by making back-channel nuclear or conventional weapon strike threats:
1. Nuclear strikes on the territory of the RF
2. Conventional weapon strikes on the territory of the RF (or battle field positions in Ukraine)
Among your conclusions is that Kharkhiv might have been a concession on the part of the Russians in return for …. what?
The problem with this thesis is that it’s already nullified by the logic of existing frameworks addressing NATO/US threats against Russia (the former USSR) as well as the logic of Russian conventional and nuclear arms superiority or equality:
1. M.A.D
2. Russian Nuclear parity
3. Russian conventional weapons parity
4. Russian Air defense superiority
Further, the logic of your hypothesis is contradictory:
Why would the Americans make threats prohibiting Russian strikes on *some* selected targets but not on others of arguably more importance? For example:
– Why were the Americans not successful in making any back channel threats to prevent the taking of Mariupol, Kherson and in fact the DPR/LPR?
– When Russia turned off 50% of the Ukrainian electricity grid and destroyed a dam following Kharkhiv,
– When Russia took and continues to occupy Zhaporizhye nuclear plant …
– etc …
If we are to believe these back channel threats are happening and are influencing Russian battlefield decisions to some degree, it would appear they’re not having much effect.
Contrast this logic with the known strategy of “incremental escalation” used by the RF, which matches well with the doctrine of “Escalation Dominance”, i.e the Russians are simply retaining the option to always be able to escalate the conflict one notch higher, instead of using all their options up in one go.
This strategy allows diplomacy to still remain a viable tool at every stage of escalation – thereby ensuring Russian options remain open.
It’s more reasonable to believe this is the explanation for RF battlefield actions than threats of US nuclear or conventional attack.
So no, I don’t think any back-channel threats of a US strike are significantly influencing Putin’s moves on the battlefield. If that was the case there’d be no SMO to begin with …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2022 7:08 utc | 277
@ Brother Ma | Sep 26 2022 6:11 utc | 271
For NS1, pressure is 100 bars.
Temperature is probably close to “room” temperature at sea bottom.
But it’s gazeous.
What is relevant is volume at 1 bar.
NS1 (one double pipe) is 50 billions cubic meter pro year.
NS2 is 50 more.
One big LNG tanker is 175000 * 600 = 100,000,000 cm.
You need 500/year to replace one double NS pipe.
Scholz was in EAU and negociate succesfully to receive 1 (ONE) tanker this year 😭.
“c’est la fin de l’abondance, la fin de l’insouciance” as Macron said
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 26 2022 7:11 utc | 278
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 26 2022 6:47 utc | 275
So can you please explain to me why this “some races or peoples have lower IQ “ narrative came about?
Every era has it’s form of intelligence pseudo-science. IQ is the “phrenology” of the modern era.
Phrenology (from Ancient Greek φρήν (phrēn) ‘mind’, and λόγος (logos) ‘knowledge’) is a pseudoscience which involves the measurement of bumps on the skull to predict mental traits.[1][2] It is based on the concept that the brain is the organ of the mind, and that certain brain areas have localized, specific functions or modules.[3] It was said that the brain was composed of different muscles, so those that were used more often were bigger, resulting in the different skull shapes. This led to the reasoning behind why everyone had bumps on the skull in different locations. The brain “muscles” not being used as frequently remained small and were therefore not present on the exterior of the skull.
But if you really must believe in it, may I suggest to you, the IQ-enhancing practice of reverse-phrenology which works across all races and creeds:
A peculiar and painful fad in literal-minded Ankh-Morpork.
The reasoning runs: phrenology insists there is an inter-relationship between the outer shape of a person’s skull, and those areas of the brain lying directly underneath. Thus, if there is a noticeable bump in the front of the skull, this is directly over the area of the brain thought responsible for intellect and should be evidence for an abnormal amount of brain development and activity directly underneath – ie, the intellectual personality.
Ankh-Morpork takes this a step further. What if a series of carefully measured blows on the head with carefully graded hammers could adjust the shape of the skull, thus modifying personality accordingly? Unfortunately, the leading practitioner is Zorgo the Retro Phrenologist, a troll, to whom sublety is one of dem word fings in dat dict-ee-o-nary fing.
You can go into a shop in Ankh-Morpork and order an artistic temperament with a tendency to introspection. What you actually get is hit on the head with a large hammer, but it keeps the money in circulation and gives people something to do.
(Also see: https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Retrophrenology)
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2022 7:15 utc | 279
La Bastille | Sep 26 2022 7:11 utc | 279
Thank you for this and your other gas/energy comments – there is a lot of confusion in ordinary minds, i.e. mine, so explanations are vital
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 26 2022 7:25 utc | 280
La Bastille | Sep 26 2022 7:11 utc | 279
There is just one thing that you probably have checked in your conversions but it is always important if discussing units, is are we talking US Billion or UK/European billion?
Posted by: watcher | Sep 26 2022 7:31 utc | 281
@Paul Damascene #184, genuinely curious what escalations you think Russia has available on the conventional side?
Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 25 2022 22:38 utc | 187
They could “at long last” start doing it the US/NATO way and lay any infrastructure in Mid-/Western Ukraine to ruins? The whole power grid, water supply options, railway lines, communication centres, TV stations et al … So far, the Allies have but scratched the surface.
Posted by: CM of Berlin | Sep 26 2022 7:36 utc | 282
Don @249
Correct.
For verbatim details go to
https://www.lauriemeadows.info/conflict_security/Commentaries-on-geo-economics-and-governance-2022-09-22.html
and do a word search for ‘Hiroshima’.
Posted by: Powerandpeople | Sep 26 2022 7:43 utc | 283
Posted by: Haassaan | Sep 26 2022 0:20 utc | 203
NATO has no military to fight the Russians. They talk a “big game”, but they have no means to actually fulfill this. The German army by now has just a few thousand more soldiers available than the much smaller East Germany mustered back in 1985. There is no British Army on Rhine with 50 to 80k troops, well trained and ready for battle. Now the total British Army has the size of 79k, and these are be no means all fighting troops. Equipment across NATOstan is ageing, when Ursula von der Leyen was Germany`s Defence Minister, barely a dozen of Germany`s 120odd Eurofighters were actually ready for battle. And it is similar in the US of A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=QIIoyh2LdCo
Posted by: CM of Berlin | Sep 26 2022 7:44 utc | 284
Is there any hard evidence that the “Ukrainian offensive” east of Kharkov was anything other than a small attack?
So no one here (at this late hour) knows of any hard evidence?
What about soft evidence, e.g., the reported number of tanks etc?
Posted by: Jack | Sep 26 2022 7:47 utc | 285
… Perhaps what I do is simply call out BS anywhere, regardless of where it comes from.
….
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 25 2022 19:52 utc | 147
The other day you were trying to pull off exactly the type of bogus intervention when Chaka Khagan brought up the matter of the DoD’s missing $2T.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/ukraine-open-thread-2022-153.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02a2eed6c375200d#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02a2eed6c375200d
You’re real turkey, Opport Knocks.
Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 26 2022 7:53 utc | 286
Is there any hard evidence that the “Ukrainian offensive” east of Kharkov was anything other than a small attack?
It seems the Russians pulled out of the region to give the Ukrainians a great big media extravaganza.
Posted by: Jack | Sep 26 2022 5:32 utc | 267
It has been widely reported by various independent sources that the attack was in so far a success, that it punched through a thinly guarded part of a 1,000 km front line – no doubt after NATO recon. The Allied troops there retreated to more defensible positions and thus suffered just minor losses. (One might ask why there was but so small a force stationed there, yet, 1,000 km is quite some distance.) While on face value, this is a loss of face (more than anything), the Ukraine forces used up many reserves and amount of equipment that was now out in the open – as opposed hidden in the previous defensive lines – and became prey to Allied artillery and air strikes.
What remains to be seen is whether Ukraine can sustain this attack (and it won`t become a “Ardennen 1944 Mk. 2”) and whether the Allied forces get troops in there and force the attackers back. From what we hear, the Ukrainians getting pounded while a steady flow of Russian equipment is being sent to the front lines.
IMHO, as soon as the outcome of the referendums are known and Russia accept these “new territories” as part of her own, the measures taken against any attack on these territories while go up by quite some margin, all over Ukraine.
Posted by: CM of Berlin | Sep 26 2022 7:55 utc | 287
They could “at long last” start doing it the US/NATO way and lay any infrastructure in Mid-/Western Ukraine to ruins? The whole power grid, water supply options, railway lines, communication centres, TV stations et al … So far, the Allies have but scratched the surface.
Posted by: CM of Berlin | Sep 26 2022 7:36 utc | 283
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That is, of course conceivable, but I think it is unlikely because in addition to military objectives, there are political ones as well. And, according to old Clausewitz, one is as important as the other because one affects the other.
Imagine, for example, the outcome of the referendums if Moscow had distributed American-style bomb carpets. The most important phase of the war is still the one when active combat operations have ended.
Moscow seems to have understood this very simple principle.
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2022 7:57 utc | 288
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2022 7:57 utc | 289
Moscow seems to have understood this very simple principle.
And yet the dozens of concern trolls on this site can’t grasp the simple idea that you don’t hold successful referenda in areas you’ve recently carpet bombed …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2022 8:06 utc | 289
Further, the logic of your hypothesis is contradictory:
Why would the Americans make threats prohibiting Russian strikes on *some* selected targets but not on others of arguably more importance? For example:
– Why were the Americans not successful in making any back channel threats to prevent the taking of Mariupol, Kherson and in fact the DPR/LPR?
– When Russia turned off 50% of the Ukrainian – When Russia turned off 50% of the Ukrainian electricity grid and destroyed a dam following Kharkhiv,
– When Russia took and continues to occupy Zhaporizhye nuclear plant …
– etc …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2022 7:08 utc | 278
Taking each of those issues in turn : Kherson was taken bloodlessly which likely means no American red lines were crossed.
LPR/DPR were at the very core of the SMO and in trading terms would have been a ‘non-negotiable’ from a Russian perspective.
Mariupol may have been a part of the trade off to avoid Kiev in exchange for the ability to create a land bridge to Crimea.
Yes the Russians hit a dam post-Kharkov to make a show of a negotiated ‘retribution’ for the loss of territory, however as far as I understand it the lights were back on within 24 hours ?
The power plant once again was seized with little bloodshed so no red line being crossed there.
So many obviously debilitating manoeuvres have been left on the table by Russia including but not limited to; destruction of rail and transport links into Ukraine carrying nato weaponry, total and permanent shut down of gas through Ukraine, cruise missile strikes on Kiev.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 26 2022 8:15 utc | 290
Is there any hard evidence that the “Ukrainian offensive” east of Kharkov was anything other than a small attack?
@ CM of Berlin: “It has been widely reported by various independent sources that the attack was in so far a success, that it punched through a thinly guarded part of a 1,000 km front line…”
That’s not even soft evidence, its almost no evidence at all.
How many tanks did these independent sources mention?
Posted by: Jack | Sep 26 2022 8:17 utc | 291
Carpet bombing will be forced by nato, sooner or later, in regions with unfavorable percentage. After all public info available today, nato is going to support Ukr attacks on all regions, including Crimea, just like before or even more.
Because US has nothing to lose and it’s a very good way of turning the Russians against Putin. Keep the idiotic “slow is best”, keep protecting transport, power grid and nato proxies, keep releasing azovs and mercenaries or cannibals and it will quickly work against the current leadership and lower trust in the army.
Posted by: rk | Sep 26 2022 8:28 utc | 292
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2022 7:15 utc | 280
Thank you for responding , Arch. So I guess you believe IQ scores are a load of wank then ! Lol
I agree in principle , but it is what we have -until a better one is discovered- as supposedly a proxy for general mental ability .
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 26 2022 8:32 utc | 293
Look, Europe may have a lot of faults, and what is more, there is still a plethora of colossal idiots here. But we stopped shitting in the streets and throwing feces at each other a long time ago.
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 25 2022 23:28 utc | 195
So you imported the third world to do it all for you now.
Posted by: Bearish Panda | Sep 26 2022 8:34 utc | 294
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 26 2022 7:11 utc | 279
Thank you for the pressure information , Bastille.
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 26 2022 8:34 utc | 295
Peter AU1 @ 212
>US ICBMs fly in a ballistic trajectory, and like a fielder catching a cricket ball, they can also be caught.
More to the point, defenders can’t know what an incoming warhead an ICBM carries, so any attack with them is likely to produce a nuclear retaliation.
Posted by: Hereward | Sep 26 2022 8:39 utc | 296
Scholtz says the winter EU energy crisis has been solved.
https://youtu.be/ok8hNvjSPlQ
Posted by: Simon | Sep 26 2022 4:58 utc | 264
Scholz is right.
No more energy crisis. We just stop to use it. Too expensive. No more heating, cooking or warming water.
As you know Ministry of Economy (Habeck) explains last week that bakers and restaurants will JUST STOP to produce and sell. For him, it’s not bankrupt.
“So simple ist green economy
Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 26 2022 8:49 utc | 297
Whether by good planning, accident or happy chance it looks to me that Russia’s boil the frog slowly strategy may have saved us a nuclear war. The last 6 months have shown NATO that their weapons are next door to useless. Both the sanctions and the hardware ones. The PR ones too, I guess, if the Italian voting is a guide? So now they are reduced to bluster about what they might do if Russia nukes Ukraine. Had Russia gone full bore at the start its not hard to imagine NATO responding in kind – when they thought their weapons were decent and that Russia only had enough in stock for a wet week. And when they had their coughs softened they would have gone nuke to save face. And of course, the international community – the real one rather that just NATO- had to be shown the man behind the curtain as well.
Posted by: Guy L’Estrange | Sep 26 2022 8:51 utc | 298
Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 25 2022 19:09 utc | 127
“It might, however, the warning came from the ZioAmericans implying they would strike, therefore, the retaliation would be against the US not Ukraine.”
NaGastan will utilise one of it’s NATO vassals who have the capability.
Both the UK And France are capable. If submarines are utilised Russia has the option of replying to one or all three.
Posted by: OhOh | Sep 26 2022 8:53 utc | 299
So you imported the third world to do it all for you now.
Posted by: Bearish Panda | Sep 26 2022 8:34 utc | 295
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No idea. Last time I went to McD was 25 years ago.
Posted by: Nobody | Sep 26 2022 8:54 utc | 300