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September 16, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-151
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RT reports a hilarious tragicomedy today. Two Ukrainian women were assaulted on a beach in France. They told the cops that their attacker was Russian. Cops arrest the guy, who turns out to be former Ukrainian military, not Russian, and who tells them he ‘slapped’ the women because he thought they were Russian.
Posted by: rockstar | Sep 16 2022 8:07 utc | 1
Everything about the Queen’s funeral is an object lesson into the West’s perseverance in Ukraine.
Every sleeping sycophant will be mobilized.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 8:21 utc | 2
too scents | Sep 16 2022 8:21 utc | 2
I like the notion, but could you explain – for those non westies here the inner sanctums remain a mystery
rockstar | Sep 16 2022 8:07 utc | 1
Great story – all you need to know about the Ukraine in one snappy sentence, well..
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 16 2022 8:24 utc | 3
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 8:21 utc | 2
Well now you have articulated incoherence you must be feeling much better ! Nonsensical comment linking two things you have been brooding on and without any connection whatsoever
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 16 2022 8:26 utc | 4
Paul Greenwood | Sep 16 2022 8:26 utc | 4
Always careful of the hand that feeds you, Paul.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 8:36 utc | 6
The death of the Commander-in-Chief of the English army is very relevant to the smo in The Ukraine. So, well said by two scents.
Posted by: Merkin Scot | Sep 16 2022 8:56 utc | 7
Thanks to cardboard generals, Zely invited foreign media in Izyum to show how they’ve “discovered” a mass grave in the “liberated” city. Bucha 2 starts tomorrow.
Also 5 missiles fell on the center of Kherson today, multiple dead and wounded.
Posted by: rk | Sep 16 2022 8:58 utc | 8
Posted by: joe9211 | Sep 16 2022 9:04 utc | 9
Nurse!The screens!
Posted by: Walt | Sep 16 2022 9:07 utc | 9
I have been wondering about Russia’s operation in the Ukraine theatre and the seemingly lack of intelligence, despite Russia’s obvious assets.
It makes me wonder whether NATO is running a diversionary front in Ukraine to occupy Russian intelligence assets while the US slowly builds up forces in a clandestine manner elsewhere.
Russia’s minimist approach obviously shows they know what’s going on. The Armenian situation shows that the US is planning a multi front campaign.
Dejan Beric gave an interesting update on the front in Ukraine and stressed that the upper command was very intent on minimising Russian casualties.
Posted by: Johnycomelately | Sep 16 2022 9:08 utc | 10
Let us see how the West reports the rocket attack on the centre of Kherson city and the deaths of civilians. No doubt it will get the same headlines that Donetsk gets. None!
Posted by: Pancho Plail | Sep 16 2022 9:13 utc | 11
Walt 10.
He seems to be very fired up about gays. Do you think this is a case of repressed homosexuality, apart from having serious mental issues?
Posted by: Pancho Plail | Sep 16 2022 9:16 utc | 12
Merkin Scot | Sep 16 2022 8:56 utc | 7
You too speaking in parables – for the uinitiated, for the love of pete, what’s the connection?
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 16 2022 9:19 utc | 13
Posted by: Pancho Plail | Sep 16 2022 9:13 utc | 12
Earlier in the spring the regime media ok’d all the thousands of civilian deaths and said it’s ok to set up firing points in apartment blocks and artillery amidst them. It was in conjunction with the Amnesty International report accusing ukrainians, which was revised anyway. Nothing new here. The regime media whitewashes war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2022 9:23 utc | 14
While the “counter-attack” happened, the comments section exploded to 500 to 600+ posts. Now as the countar-attack stalls and is bound to be reversed, as any objective onlooker would have forecast, we are back to the norm of 200 to 300+ comments. “Interesting” …
BTW, for those who missed it, Zakharova`s statement (with subtitles as quick as her speech), which diplomats with any brain would do well to take note of:
https://twitter.com/VeraVanHorne/status/1570489611532783619?cxt=HHwWhsDSreP-v8srAAAA
Posted by: CM of Berlin | Sep 16 2022 9:25 utc | 15
America (NATO) is doing what they are doing best: terror over civilians. every american intervention is nothing else but terror over civilian population and civilian infrastructure. we’ve seen it again in ukraine, forget about counteroffensive, ukro army 99% of time and weapons are using for terrorizing civilians. and russia knew everything and do nothing. today kherson, and lugansk as well, some HQ were hit. to makes things worse, famous SCO is a joke, members of this organization are killing each other left and right? russia is not ready for this world. this is running by mafia, and you know how mafia operates and gain respect. by eliminating anything that stood up against it. if you are not ready to use the same tactics, better kiss the masters ring and shut up. and over and over i heard the same thing: what will western media report about this or that civilian casualties. how about they don’t care?
Posted by: denazi | Sep 16 2022 9:30 utc | 16
Ukro BMP driver runs over 2 of their own soldiers during assault turned into hasty retreat. Then flips the BMP on a slope and possibly a third one gets crushed.
https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1570687485474377734
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2022 9:35 utc | 17
Zelenskys recent reference to Russian POW’s as ‘Orcs’ and his promise to display their corpses in the workshops of the Thermal Power Plants betrays his racial ideology of hate and pursuit of a National policy to derogate Russians as Untermeshcen. This ultra nationalism has since 2014 fomented and legitimised acts of genocide against Russian speaking populations in the Donbass and Eastern Ukraine including the torture and killing of Russian POW’s. Needless to say, Zelensky’s CIA/Mi6 handlers won’t complain since Neo Nazis are the shock troops of NATO’s Ukranian Military for killing Russians and genocide is their tradecraft practised lest we forget by NATO’s proxies in Syria ISIS and AL Queda.
Posted by: Rick | Sep 16 2022 9:43 utc | 18
joe 9 In Holland we would say: ”Het busje komt zo!” (the white van with friendly but muscular male nurses is on its way)
Posted by: Rootman | Sep 16 2022 9:52 utc | 19
Posted by: joe9211 | Sep 16 2022 9:04 utc | 9
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Rarely read so much desperation!
But… in letters from German soldiers in 1945 shortly before the surrender of the SS !!
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Or to put it another way…. whoever thinks they can defeat Russia should change their medication or ask Ms. Bearbock (Germany’s Foreign Minister) about her medication…
The stuff must have a strong effect on hollow bodies?
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Oh yes, I’m German and I see and hear the mob scolding every day, BUT on Zelenski not on Putin !!
Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 16 2022 10:02 utc | 20
Re: joe9211
Too many Pentagon lovers out today … just as deaf and incoherent as elder occupant of the Oval Office … 50 years suffering defeats in global conflicts … AQ terror – AfPak region – the Levant – Libya – source of over a million deaths … pariah states US and Zion. Preserving peace ☮️ is much more difficult than waging (proxy) wars.
Great interest SCO Summit in Uzbekistan … representing the majority of world population.
Posted by: Rick | Sep 16 2022 9:43 utc | 18
You got a source for that? Purely for reference.
Posted by: CM of Berlin | Sep 16 2022 10:07 utc | 22
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 8:36 utc | 6
Incoherence to the nth exponent !
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 16 2022 10:12 utc | 23
Posted by: joe9211 | Sep 16 2022 9:04 utc | 9
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Think about it before you speak of Ukraine’s victory…yes, desperately fantasizing about it
Message from yesterday…WHERE WILL YOU STAND TONIGHT?
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However, the “angry patriots” cause headaches. Therefore, the recent situation around Bakhmut in Donetsk is of particular importance. Bakhmut is undoubtedly the linchpin of the entire fortress that Kyiv has built in the Donbass over the past 8 years. It is a strategic communications hub with roads in many directions – Lysychansk, Horlivka, Kostiantynivka and Kramatorsk – and control of the city is crucial to gain full dominance over Donetsk Oblast.
Russian troops and allied militias have been attempting to penetrate Ukrainian defenses in the direction of Bakhmut-Soledar since August 3, but with limited success. Now reports are coming in that the Russians have entered the town of Bakhmut and taken control of the industrial area in the north-eastern parts.
Some reports state that the Russian military companies known as the Wagner Group were deployed at Bakhmut. These are highly qualified ex-military personnel.
The stakes are extraordinarily high. For Kyiv, the entire logistics of operations in Donetsk could go haywire if it loses control of Bakhmut. As for the Russians, the breakthrough towards Bakhmut-Soledar will clear the main hurdle for the decisive offensive towards the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk axis in the west, the last concentration of Ukrainian forces in Donetsk. Bakhmut is only 50 km away from Slavyansk-Kramatorsk.
Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 16 2022 10:18 utc | 24
Hey Joe9211, Russia is winning the war. The West will lose. Otherwise its WW3. Take your pick.
Posted by: Krypton | Sep 16 2022 10:19 utc | 25
Armenia and Azerbaijan are claiming about 130-200 Armenian soldiers dead (Azerbaijan which unconvincingly claims it is the victim of “Armenian aggression”, says 75 dead Azeri soldiers) in last 3 days, the one month war in 2020 saw 3800 Armenian casualties, 2900 Azeri. Azeris are claiming they destroyed two S-300 systems in Armenia.
Azeris have shelled even compounds and infrastructure used by Russian peacekeepers. No casualties so far but plenty of pictures on Twitter of damaged buildings and equipment.
Armenia has asked for Russian assistance against Azerbaijan as per CSTO, Putin said no.
Azeris seem inspired by Erdogan and his similarly unconvincing talk of “Greek aggression” and pledges to take Greek territory in a bid to get away with abusing Greek and Cypriot EEZs in hydrocarbon extraction. Both countries have a psychopathic ‘conqueror mentality’ and see it as their destiny to finally expand indefinitely at the expense of the Greeks and Armenians. The famous “Stop the lockdowns, start the war!” chants in Baku and mass protests by Turks in Paris and Germany in support of the last war are telling.
Azeris must know that despite official US condemnation that should the Russians get involved the Turks and probably US would gladly help them fight the Russians. It’s likely the recent Ukrainian breakthrough and threat of an escalation or at least lengthening of the war is what prompted the Azeris to attack and set up new ‘facts on the ground’ and get better recognition to their gains during the similar incidents in 2021. But maybe knowing the Russians can’t intervene (Risking getting bogged down in a second proxy war) they will go farther this time.
There will, of course, be no recognition of the Turkish and Azeri aggression being the natural result to removing Russia’s stabilising influence through this proxy war.
Posted by: Altai | Sep 16 2022 10:21 utc | 26
BUT The same applies here as always in times of war
” Believe 50% doubt the rest !! ”
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Report of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (September 16, 2022)
◽️ The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
💥 High-precision attacks by the Russian Aerospace Forces neutralized the bases of the 28th Mechanized Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Nikolayev.
💥 Near Ochakov (Nikolayev region) the headquarters and training base of the South Special Operations Center of the AFU were destroyed.
💥In the Kharkov region, temporary bases of the 66th mechanized brigade of the AFU near Dvurechnaya and Kupyansk and the Kraken nationalist group in Kharkov were neutralized.
💥The positions of the AFU 80th Airborne Assault Brigade near Seversk (Donetsk People’s Republic) were neutralized by a precision attack.
◽️The attacks resulted in the casualties of over 400 Ukrainian soldiers, more than 20 units of armored and motorized vehicles. Over 3,000 ammunition for rocket and cannon artillery of various calibers were also destroyed.
💥 Operational-tactical and military aviation, missile forces and artillery neutralized 9 AFU command posts near Seversk, Verkhnekamenskoye, Svanovka and Pavlovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Gulyuaypole and Poltavka (Zaporoshye region), Murakhovka, Olenovka and Ukrainka (Nikolayev region). as well as 65 artillery units, 234 AFU manpower and military equipment concentration areas.
💥 8 missile, artillery and ammunition depots were destroyed near Nikolayev, Petrovskoye, Pervomaiskoye and Kurakhovo (Donetsk People’s Republic), Omelnik and Veselyanka (Zaporoshye region).
1 Osa-AKM air defense missile system was destroyed near Soledar.
💥 Air defense facilities shot down 5 unmanned aerial vehicles near Avdeyevka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Tomarino and Stepovoye (Kherson region).
💥 53 projectiles launched from HIMARS and Olkha MRLS were destroyed near Avdotyino (Donetsk People’s Republic), Golaya Pristan, Novaya Kakhovka, Antonovka, Vesyoloye (Kherson region) and Mirnoye (Zaporozhye region).
📊A total of 293 aircraft and 155 helicopters, 1,965 unmanned aerial vehicles, 375 air defense missile systems, 4,940 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 837 MRLS-equipped combat vehicles, 3,392 field artillery guns and mortars, and 5,616 special forces equipment were destroyed during the military special operation.
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16.09.22
Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 16 2022 10:22 utc | 27
ukraine today killed by missile strike luhansk prosecutor general. whoever gave them coordinates, it is a scary precision. and it shows how ukro/nato intelligence is doing good job. meanwhile, zelenski is walking around izum and doing photo ops. and ukraine is doing concentration of troops daily. ukros can find by missile prosecutor general but russia can’t find and destroy any concentration of ukro troops? something is wrong with this picture.
Posted by: denazi | Sep 16 2022 10:23 utc | 28
Comment in Germany 09/16/22
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The “Miracle of Kharkiv”: Turning Point in the War?
A comment by Wolfgang Effenberger.
There is no doubt that a month ago no one would have expected Ukraine to gain territory in the south-east near Cherson and in the north-east around Kharkiv. President Zelenskyi announced the major offensive weeks ago and predicted the turning point in the war for September. Western media celebrate the Ukrainian blitzkrieg and see the Russian troops on the run and Russian elite tank formations severely decimated. Selenskyi’s trick worked: To ward off the Ukrainian offensive in the Cherson area, Putin thinned out the troops near Kharkiv for regrouping: loosely based on the Chinese stratagem “Make noise in the east, attack in the west” (attributed to General Tan Daoji († 436))1) . A mock attack is intended to get the enemy to reinforce their troops there and withdraw resources from the point where the attack actually takes place. It can be assumed that Putin is aware of all 36 stratagems of Daoji. Also, air and satellite reconnaissance should not have missed the approach of several Ukrainian armored brigades.
Given the incessant propaganda orchestration – on both sides – it is impossible to make a proper analysis of the military situation. The only thing that seems certain is that it will be a long war at the expense of the population. In the now more than 200 days of war, Ukraine has become increasingly militarized while at the same time increasing Russophobic hysteria. In the wake of the advancing Ukrainian troops, the feared Ukrainian domestic secret service SBU (Sluschba bespeky Ukrajiny) – successor organization to the KGB of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic – begins its bloody work: torture, mutilation and mass killings are part of the SBU’s standard procedure.2) It can be assumed that all who collaborated with the Russians will at best be brought to justice, at worst simply shot as traitors. Under these conditions, which Ukrainian will openly want to help the Russian army in the future? Not having protected the pro-Russian population in these now Ukrainian areas will be a heavy burden for further Russian action.
Human suffering was not even a side issue for BILD am SONNTAG on September 11, 2022, instead the focus was on victory: “The Ukrainian army proved in an almost unbelievable show of force: They can win this war!”3) So this war can be won by Ukraine, BILD advises the German government accordingly:
She “should admit her mistakes in the hesitant delivery of weapons and give Ukraine what it still needs for a successful counteroffensive: tanks, artillery, ammunition. And fast!“
Referring to the German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock, who had arrived in Kyiv the day before, her statement made in early summer: “Ukraine must win this war” was quoted as saying:
“Then she has to finally do everything for it.”
Before such demands are made, a ruthless look at the legal constitution of the Federal Republic should be thrown. Since Germany still does not have a real peace treaty, Putin could declare the FRG an aggressor for supplying heavy weapons in a war conflict that continues the old 1945 war. Should NATO then rush to Germany’s aid, a full-scale nuclear war would probably be unavoidable.
Sandra Maischberger’s talk show on September 13, 2022 focused on the Ukrainian armed forces’ enormous gains in territory. The guests Andriy Melnyk, former ambassador of Ukraine in Berlin, Carlo Masala, professor at the Bundeswehr University in Munich, and Stephan Stuchlik, ARD capital correspondent, gave answers to the questions: Is the “Miracle of Kharkiv” already the turning point in the war? Does Ukraine now need more weapons from the West?
In view of the demand to supply even more heavy weapons such as the Leopard tank, Stuchlik recognized the “elephant in the room” when asked whether Germany was already a party to the war or when it would become so. No one would be debating this big question right now, nor the threat of escalation and nuclear war.
“I have great concerns that the argumentation of the federal government, as it is going at the moment – which focuses on small things, offensive weapons, the weakening of NATO’s eastern flank and possibly ‘we do nothing before the others do’, can be sustained for a long time “, he said. “One must talk about the big topic and not about small things – the danger of a third world war”4).
During the night of Tuesday, September 13, 2022, Azerbaijan surprisingly attacked places in Armenia with artillery, use of threats…and large caliber ammunition. A renewed escalation of the decades-long conflict between the two states. On the morning of September 13, Armenia’s head of government, Nikol Pashinyan, spoke of a provisional number of 49 dead.5)
Right now, when Russia is weakened, Armenia, which is close to Moscow, is being shelled by Azerbaijan. This also creates an explosive dilemma for the EU: it urgently needs Azerbaijan as an energy supplier.6)
Since the collapse and dissolution of the Soviet Union, the United States has viewed Russia as a regional power that needs to be kept in check financially, politically and militarily. This constantly enforced anti-Russian attitude was followed by deeds: eastward expansion of NATO, termination of the ABM treaty, construction of a missile defense shield in Poland (allegedly against missiles from Iran), wars in Iraq, Libya and Syria, colored revolutions, etc.
The war of aggression by the USA/NATO against the rest of Yugoslavia in 1999, which violates international law, should also be seen in this context.
At the end of the first week of the war, former Chancellor Helmut Schmidt had stated unequivocally:
“Guided by the USA, we have disregarded international law and the Charter of the United Nations”,7) and the US political scientist and war researcher Professor Daniel Kolko wrote after the war: “For the USA it was about demonstrating military power and to expand their supremacy in NATO.”8) Since the Yugoslav war, the “law of the powerful” has applied instead of international law.
For the US, the current situation in Europe is a win-win situation in every respect. The euro has weakened sharply against the dollar, while profits from arms sales generally go into the pockets of the US military-industrial complex.
At the same time, the implementation of the US long-term strategy paper TRADOC 525.3.1 “Win in a Complex Word 2020-2040” from 2014 seems to have started successfully. It instructs US forces to give priority to reducing the threat posed by Russia and China – a euphemistic term for war.
Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 16 2022 10:31 utc | 29
The criminal creating U$$A gestapo (aka Federal Bureau of Instigation) intercepted the “My Pillow” guy Mike Lindell; tracking him by cellphone carrying in the parking-lot at a Hardy’s in Mankato, Minnesota yesterday. Their claim is they were “arresting” his cellphone. Arthur Anglin has a major piece on that latest action against the opposition element within the Republicans—the MAGA types—on today’s Unz Review.
It would seem quite probable that a 911-Inside Job second-edition false-flag attack will come as an October “surprise”. The Bank$ters behind the puppet regime in the Di$trict of Corruption must be getting quite nervous regarding their losing hand in Ukraine. Their plaint is “what will Russia do next”.
The three simple words most feared by the enemies of humanity are “OUT OF CONTROL”.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2022 10:31 utc | 30
New American college football cheer: “Trolls to the left, Trolls to the right, Trolls up the center and fight, fight, fight”—clear on to the last standing Ukie conscript and their Bandistera commanders and NATOstani enablers.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2022 10:34 utc | 31
> Posted by: denazi | Sep 16 2022 10:23 utc | 30
The answer does not appear to be complex. One precision missile cannot destroy a mildly decentralized amount of troops. As long as they don’t transport all together in a truck convoy are have more than 50 inside a base camp, the death count won’t be a lot compared to the price and stock of said missile.
Striking at one specific person or location he’s known to be, that’s easy of course. Russia could wipe out Ukrainian government too that way, if they wanted to go that way, like with a war on terror (declaring the leadership and all political support a terrorist first).
Posted by: John Dowser | Sep 16 2022 10:36 utc | 32
1 – Doesn’t surprise me. Many Ukrainians speak Russian better than Ukrainian, and the identities are not necessarily as sharp and clear as between, say, Estonians and Russians.
Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 16 2022 10:42 utc | 33
Mo3@31
One wonders when the Old Man of the Mountain will send in his “hashhashins” into Berlin to have nice litte talks with the puppet regime which obediently follows orders from the Di$trict of Corruption, which in turn follows orders from their masters in City of London and Wall $treet.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2022 10:43 utc | 34
“RT reports a hilarious tragicomedy today […]
Posted by: rockstar | Sep 16 2022 8:07 utc | 1
not so funny. This “fait divers” was used by Ukraine to justify the EU ban on tourist visa for Russian, arguing that Russian tourist were agressive toward Ukrainian refugees. The entire French press first titled as if it was a Russian thug, without expressing the slightest doubt about it.
for instance on “Nice Matin” newspaper, once truth came out the titles has been changed from “A russian clobbered two Ukrainian women near Monaco” to “A man speaking Russian clobbered two Ukrainian women” just to avoid writing that was an Ukrainian thug.
before (google cache): https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:c439ebq37WoJ:https://www.nicematin.com/faits-divers/on-na-pas-fui-la-guerre-pour-ca-deux-ukrainiennes-tabassees-par-un-russe-pres-de-monaco-793133
now : https://www.nicematin.com/faits-divers/on-na-pas-fui-la-guerre-pour-ca-deux-ukrainiennes-tabassees-par-un-homme-parlant-russe-pres-de-monaco-793133
almost chemically pure propaganda at work.
Posted by: w | Sep 16 2022 10:44 utc | 35
Analysis of an expert
“The Ukrainian army has concentrated very large forces, up to 60,000 military personnel, on the Kherson sector. If they are not destroyed by pre-emptive carpet bombing from heavy bombers, the offensive can be successful. And then they will advance to Crimea.”
The expert warns:
“Now the AFU (Ukrainian Army; ed.) is probing our defense system. This is shown by the example of Kiselyovka and the Kinburn Spit. From a military point of view, the algorithm of the measures is obvious. Refraining from air strikes from our side could lead to a situation similar to that after the Istanbul talks in March, when we left huge areas.”
In order to destroy the AFU grouping, both long-range strategic aircraft, i. H. bombers, each capable of carrying 24 tons of bombs, as well as tactical bombers. It was necessary not to strike with precision weapons, but to strike extensively because the Ukrainian army was standing still. Sivkov:
“We also have to hit the major railway junctions in these areas. Thanks to the open landscape, we are in a much better position than the Ukrainian army.”
Translated from Russian.
Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 16 2022 10:52 utc | 36
This is just hilarious by now,
Ukrainian strike hits Kherson administration – authorities
https://swentr.site/russia/562921-ukrainian-missiles-hit-kherson/
Blast kills LPR prosecutor general
A home-made bomb detonated in Lugansk, killing at least two people, according to local officials
https://swentr.site/russia/562919-blast-rocks-prosecutors-office-lugansk/
Ukraine attacks Russian town
https://swentr.site/russia/562896-ukraine-shelling-belgorod-region/
and so on…
I would not blame Putin though but the russian military/intelligence is obviously beyond pathetic.
Posted by: Zanon | Sep 16 2022 10:52 utc | 37
The Essence of Life Spirit of Jack D Ripper let s strong in some 🤪
Posted by: joe9211 | Sep 16 2022 9:04 utc | 9
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 16 2022 8:26 utc | 4
Posted by: denazi | Sep 16 2022 9:30 utc | 16
Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitlers?
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 16 2022 10:54 utc | 38
Posted by: Zanon | Sep 16 2022 10:52 utc |
There will be even less stability in the eastern Ukraine and it is probably a fact the Russians might have to eventually admit.
Until the business is finished it will be very hard to hold any referendums or build infrastructure. The whole territory is in high risk of ending up resembling a moon landscape used for maneuver warfare, tactical withdrawals and strategic bombing of concentrations and railheads and moving trains and suspected trucks carrying weapons, more energy plants hit. Areas will be abandoned to extend enemy lines, over-extensions counter attacked and destroyed. The war will probably enter a next level. Or will they succeed in defeating these currently mounting counter attacks in Zaporizhe, Ugledar and Donbass?
Time will tell.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2022 11:04 utc | 40
The war will probably enter a next level.
unimperator | Sep 16 2022 11:04 utc | 42
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The war will escalate until the economy collapses.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 11:08 utc | 41
Deputy mayor for housing and communal services and his wife, the head of the city election commission, killed in Berdyansk – RIA Novosti source
Ukrainian artillery hit Energodar.
Posted by: rk | Sep 16 2022 11:22 utc | 42
Posted by: denazi | Sep 16 2022 10:23 utc | 30
“…meanwhile, zelenski is walking around izum and doing photo ops.”
I’ve wondered about that myself — why don’t they take him out. Maybe he’s hard to target. But then, maybe they like him in charge and the bang-up job he’s doing getting a lot of his soldiers killed. They might like a comedian in charge, as opposed to a military person who might not make those mistakes.
Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Sep 16 2022 11:22 utc | 43
w | Sep 16 2022 10:44 utc | 37
Thanks for this report – this is the perfect Ukie story – the everyday equivalent of the Ukie shelling of that big power station look no hands it is the Russians
Pour résumer – a Ukie hits two other ukies but they blame it on the Russians, then get the EU to agree that from now on we (EUkies) do not need to let in Russians to hit our ukies we can just make sure Ukies keep on hitting ukies
What do the English say – three blows for democracy ? You’d half suspect a dastardly MI6 black ops
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 16 2022 11:26 utc | 44
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/8661
This is perfect. Two Ukrainian women in France, beaten and hospitalized by a former Ukrainian soldier. The women were convinced the man who beat them was a Russian. The man was convinced the women were Russian.
Will this incident cause any of the three parties to pause and reflect? Not in a million years.
Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 16 2022 11:26 utc | 45
Ah. I see it is posted already. We all recognize what has happened. The principals never will.
Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 16 2022 11:30 utc | 46
Looks like the breach of the dam is having an effect downstream. It’s being reported that Ukrainian soldiers on the wrong side of the Ingulets River have been cut off from the other side by the rising water, and under fire can’t retreat or get supplies or support from their comrades across the river.
https://avia-pro.net/news/do-dvuhsot-ukrainskih-voennyh-popali-v-okruzhenie-soyuznyh-voysk-pri-popytke-proryva-v
Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Sep 16 2022 11:31 utc | 47
SCO Update
Meanwhile in the real world the SCO summit is confirming the intent of all participants to strengthen security alliances and infrastructure, including Afghanistan and Pakistan
https://thediplomat.com/2022/09/trial-run-for-china-afghan-rail-corridor-as-sco-summit-kicks-off/
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 16 2022 11:31 utc | 48
I note that, once again, a few strikes by Ukraine Army is getting everyone all worked up to hysterical response mode again. This is a quasi war time situation. Russian intelligence is probably the best in the world. However, no war has ever been executed in a perfect manner and of course, the enemy strikes targets at times. However, Russian military strategy has been spot on and the decisions are made in a calm and considered manner.
For all those here shouting for Russia to escalate then it’s just as well that they are not the ones making the decisions. Russia will escalate when it deems it necessary to do so. From where I’m sitting things are going o.k. as they are. Whilst Ze is running the war as some great PR photo optic opportunity Russia are getting on with the job on the ground and achieving its objectives.
I strongly suspect that the USA are desperate for Russia to escalate/mobilise so that they and NATO have a good excuse to put troops on the ground (they have already under the guise of mercenaries and the RF know this) but to do so more formally. Putin is much classier than that. He sees the wider international picture and is keeping a clear head about it and clarity of vision. The home made bomb that killed the Luhansk Prosecutor General is clearly a terrorist act.
It would be disastrous for the RF to take action that has the potential to be seriously detrimental to them in this SMO. President Putin and his team are making the clear and right decisions and are not caving in to hysterical calls to escalate.
I am in no doubt that the UAF is on its last offensives here (supported by NATO and the USA). I don’t do hysteria it’s not the way to conduct any business let alone a proxy war. I defy anyone here who is hysterical about the RF not taking deeper action or critical of perceived mistakes they have made to prove military mistakes have not been made by the USA, the UK and NATO.
the cauldron around Bakhmut will be closed in the very near future. Once it falls, it will effectively, very quickly lead to the liberation of the whole Donbass region by the RF which is a key objective of the exercise. Meanwhile, the UAF are engaging in terrorist acts, running the war as one big media propaganda campaign and are not really achieving anything on the ground other than a continued massive loss of life of their armed forces.
Hysteria is for the weak, the uninitiated and the brainwashed masses it is not for a proxy war situation.
Posted by: Jo Dominich | Sep 16 2022 11:40 utc | 49
Posted by: joe9211 | Sep 16 2022 9:04 utc | 9
Dude seek urgent psychological help. All that crack you smoke has destroyed your brain!
Posted by: Merandor | Sep 16 2022 11:45 utc | 50
I think Putin does not have enough support in Russia for this war.
Posted by: Marko | Sep 16 2022 11:47 utc | 51
Marko | Sep 16 2022 11:47 utc | 53
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The question is support for the war outside of Russia.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 11:49 utc | 52
Machine translation form Tybar
The APU struck the building of the administration of the Kherson region, it is reported about the arrival of at least five missiles fired by HIMARS. The movement of ambulances towards the place of impact is observed in the city. Judging by the video, there are dead and wounded.
Near the administration there is a square, a fountain and a playground, where locals traditionally relax. However, this did not stop the Ukrainian regime from attacking Kherson.
Again, what is surprising is the absence of similar attacks on the authorities in Ukrainian cities. Such actions would clearly reduce the level of Ukrainian officials.
Posted by: MArko | Sep 16 2022 11:50 utc | 53
Continuation from Rybar (they understand that someone in Russian leadership is still afraid of The West)
For me, the litmus test showing an idiot is the person who is still thinking about what the “reaction of the international community” will be to our strikes on the enemy’s infrastructure.
The reaction in the West is simple: hitting the Boulders is normal, hitting Kharkiv is terrorism.
The blow to the Kharkiv Regional State Administration is terrorism, the Kherson Regional State Administration is the fight against terrorism.
Yesterday, on one program, he said: we need not to disappoint the West! They always imagined us as strong, formidable barbarians! Even the most hardened enemies wanted to justify their predictions.
They did not expect that we would behave like a Middle European philistine, persuading a migrant not to rape him so much.
Posted by: MArko | Sep 16 2022 11:53 utc | 54
Oleg Boyko, Deputy Head of Berdyansk Military-Civilian Administration for Housing and Communal Services, and his wife, Lyudmila Boyko, Head of Berdyansk Territorial Electoral Commission on Referendum, were shot dead at noon near their garage from a Makarov pistol. (RIA Novosti)
Sergey Gorenko, Prosecutor General of the Lugansk People’s Republic, and Yekaterina Steglenko, Deputy Prosecutor General of the Lugansk People’s Republic, were killed approximately at noon at their office by an IED explosion. (RIA Novosti)
The Ukraine is a terrorist state.
Posted by: S | Sep 16 2022 11:59 utc | 55
@I am in no doubt that the UAF is on its last offensives here
Jo Dominich | Sep 16 2022 11:40 utc | 51
This is not last anything. In months or years they will eventually kill all Ukr soldiers but nothing will prevent terrorism like today. There is no need for an army for anything Ukr does these days.
These people protecting nazis in Kiev use too much vodka in their diet if they really think Ukr will stop terrorism when nato money and ammo is infinite. Kazakhstan, Armenia and Moldova seem to have received a nice amount of dollars recently. And old fart Pelosi is visiting Armenia too.
Posted by: rk | Sep 16 2022 12:00 utc | 56
Deputy mayor for housing and communal services killed in Berdyansk – RIA Novosti source. Also his wife, the head of the city election commission, were killed, Vladimir Rogov said.
oh, what will international community and western press say about this…asking putin and russian leadership…
Posted by: denazi | Sep 16 2022 12:01 utc | 57
@ too scents | Sep 16 2022 11:08 utc | 43
>> The war will escalate until the economy collapses.
Nota bene: It’s plagiarism not to attribute this to Joe Tzu.
😉
Posted by: dfg | Sep 16 2022 12:16 utc | 58
Russians have a great sense of humour. Queen Liz and her PMs…
https://pikabu.ru/story/kak_menyalis_premerministryi_velikobritanii_pri_elizavete_ii_9452692
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 16 2022 12:17 utc | 59
Bernard.
The trolls and overcaffinated are getting out of hand and drowning out the bar.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 16 2022 12:37 utc | 60
Nota bene: It’s plagiarism not to attribute this to Joe Tzu.
😉
Posted by: dfg | Sep 16 2022 12:16 utc | 60
We have Ursella van der Tzu now!
Posted by: jpc | Sep 16 2022 12:39 utc | 61
Terrorism forever: Foreign Ministers of France, Poland and Germany called for the creation of a special European mission for training and assistance in the EU for the Ukrainian military
Posted by: rk | Sep 16 2022 12:42 utc | 62
@Marko #53:
I think Putin does not have enough support in Russia for this war.
Wrong. Here’s the latest polling data on the SMO:
Do you support the decision to carry out Russia’s Special Military Operation in the Ukraine or not?
(closed-ended question, single answer, %)
Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug
Support 73 73 71 71 70 70
Do not support 18 17 18 18 18 18
Undecided 9 10 11 11 12 12
In your opinion, what goal does Russia primarily pursue while carrying out the Special Military Operation in the Ukraine?
(closed-ended question, single answer, %)
Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug
Defend Russia, disarm the Ukraine, 44 40 40 39 39 39 prevent the placement of NATO military bases on its territory
Defend the population of Donbass 17 19 19 20 20 20 (DPR and LPR)
Change the political course of the 19 20 18 17 17 17 Ukraine, cleanse it of Nazis
Occupy the Ukraine and annex it to 5 6 7 7 7 7 Russia
Other 8 9 9 10 10 9
Undecided 7 6 7 7 7 8
Source: VTsIOM.
Posted by: S | Sep 16 2022 12:42 utc | 63
I notice a massive effort to disrupt this site and its usually interesting, informative and relevant comments section. So, MoA is also under attack, like all common sense, decency and striving to get at the truth in times when the Western alliance is gripped by sheer lunacy. The truth, and its proponents, have always been attacked, demonised, furiously rejected, silenced, burned at the stake throughout history. We are witnessing it today in full display, as also in the past two years. Truth tellers can be destroyed, but the truth is indestructible. So the massive effort is futile. It is annoying, though.
Posted by: JB | Sep 16 2022 12:47 utc | 64
It seems a pity that the racist-supremacist ‘Christian’ West and its obediently myopic MSM, are pretending not to realise that Russia cannot afford to abandon the stated goals of the SMO.
Blinken made a colossal blunder when he refused to engage in pre-SMO discussions with Putin in February. The whole world will regret Blinken’s resort to pompous self-worship.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 16 2022 13:06 utc | 65
What do people make of all the Russian energy exec falling out of windows from tall buildings, drowning, committing suicide, etc. Is it suspicious? Who would be behind if suspicious?
Posted by: Rune Denmark | Sep 16 2022 13:09 utc | 66
Posted by: Jo Dominich | Sep 16 2022 11:40 utc | 51
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Top !
It couldn’t have been said or written any better!
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Even the most zealous friend of Russia should see that NATO seeks and provokes precisely this escalation!
Biden wants, NO MUST, until the election results and much more importantly HE must create facts that are irreversible if HE should lose power!
So expect a lot more such actions until the date!
e.g. weapons with longer range?
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Germany (Scholz) does not refuse to deliver tanks without reason…. maybe Putin told him on the phone that Germany would then be the target, or that the last pipeline would then be dry?
Now the EU is attacking Hungary as a whole…Hungary would no longer be a democracy and all funds (€) allowances were frozen.
I Skype regularly with my family in Hungary, the voices OUT from the EU are getting louder among the people! Your Opinion “Without the war” in Ukraine they would be much louder! At the moment, however, a lot of people are unsettled by this.
Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 16 2022 13:38 utc | 67
The banning of Russia and Belarus representatives from Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral confirms that the source of Anglophobia in the UK is the Royal Head of State.
Constitutional Monarchy; my a——-.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Sep 16 2022 13:46 utc | 68
JUST SEEN – SURELY THE RF CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO GO ON AND ON – ‘BREAKING reports UKRAINE shelled administration building in Kherson while a meeting was in session, hitting civilians & the Prosecutor General of the LPR & his Deputy with a bomb in his office. There was also a terrorist attack that killed the Deputy Mayor of Berdyansk & his wife.’ Surely, Ukraine must now be designated a terrorist state not simply a sponsor of terrorism? Suggestions, anyone?
Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Sep 16 2022 13:55 utc | 70
Constitutional Monarchy; my a——-.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Sep 16 2022 13:46 utc | 70
Correct. Technically the UK does not have a Constitution, just a series of decisions that can be adhered to or not as circumstances dictate. Lots of opportunity to make work for legislators and lawyers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 16 2022 13:56 utc | 71
News of the “non—military, exclusively economic association” – the European Union.
The Foreign Ministers of France, Poland and Germany called for the creation of a special European mission to train the Ukrainian military and provide them with assistance from the EU.
Subscribe to @Sputnik
Posted by: Jo | Sep 16 2022 14:06 utc | 72
What a day. Office holders assassinated in Kherson, office holders assassinated in Luhansk, a couple of Russian places hit by Ukraine.
It’s a bad omen. There’s much more of this to come, and this week may turn out to have been a turning point.
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Sep 16 2022 14:12 utc | 73
Walt@10 Old song, ” They’re coming to take me away, haha hehe, to the funny farm……
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 16 2022 14:18 utc | 74
“…this week may turn out to have been a turning point…”
Here I was thinking last week was supposed to be the turning point, and the week before that, and the week before that…
Get back to us if things actually turn.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 16 2022 14:20 utc | 75
William Gruff
What other week past 7 months have Ukraine advanced this much?
Obviously a whole lot do not work on the russian side, why live in denial?
Posted by: Zanon | Sep 16 2022 14:28 utc | 76
Well for six weeks I watched the live webcam feed from the centre of Bakhmut and it was amazingly peaceful, though few people around. Couldn’t even hear gunfire in the distance. But the camera was not shown this week and today I see the Palace of Culture, which the camera pointed at, has been badly damaged. Fighting is obviously getting closer.
I keep hearing about great Russian intelligence, but I also keep seeing Ru/DPR/LPR vehicles shown on Ukraine-supporting youtube webcam feeds like Observation Room. At one stage they were showing live video of an Allied base!
Two days ago a tank was parked under trees in Donetsk, obviously concealing itself – and there’s a webcam showing it on the OR site!
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 16 2022 14:30 utc | 77
Russia need to up their cyber game. And also keep an eye out for kit like this – not quite perfected but close – a solar observation/comms drone that can stay up indefinitely at 60,000 ft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Zephyr
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 16 2022 14:35 utc | 78
YetAnotherAnon | Sep 16 2022 14:35 utc | 80
Gary Powers was flying his U2 at 80’000ft in 1960 when it was shot down.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 14:44 utc | 79
too scents – its not the height, it’s that it can stay up for weeks or months – more than 50 days so far. What other drone can do that?
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 16 2022 14:48 utc | 80
@ rockstar | Sep 16 2022 8:07 utc | 1
can you post the link to the article? Cannot find it
Thx
Posted by: DS | Sep 16 2022 14:50 utc | 81
A quickly jotted thought regarding why Putin/Russia have chosen not to escalate just yet: Sad to say, but the way the United States wages war is often dependent on how the news of them is slanted, and the exact time in its electoral cycles that America is at.
Viet Nam and President Johnson and the members of his own party who were considering giving him a primary challenge come to mind.
Putin and Russian intelligence know of American politics better than any of us, and I suspect that they are thinking that from now until early November is the window of opportunity that the Biden administration and the MIC is looking at.
During this window they are laying claim to the idea that Ukraine’s military has recovered, and has some initiative, and that if Russia escalates it will be because they know they are going to lose, and so it would be fair and justified for NATO to directly retaliate to that.
The Biden administration is loathe to think of NATO jumping in during the last couple of weeks to the mid-term elections, as many would call the move out as being political, and done so as to steal an earned victory at the polls from the Republicans. But if they could still spin that Ukraine forces were making a comeback, then they could spin that it was Russia playing politics, if it was they that had escalated just prior to the mid-term elections.
The worst case scenario for the MIC in America is if Russia and its allies keep making progress, and they roll back/break apart the Ukrainian units that made advances into previously Russian held territory. If Russia can do that, while announcing that they don’t see a need to mobilize their non-standing forces, then that will give President Biden’s political advisors a lot of pause, and maybe even ulcers, as they deal with the more blood thirsty types in the MIC who want Biden to agree to NATO expanding its role.
Biden’s political advisors know that to expand NATO’s involvement, while Russia appeared to be trudging along and grinding away, so close to election day will get criticized as an admission of Ukraine losing its war, and an attempt to distract the political narrative away from issues that the Democratic party is losing on, in swing districts.
American elections, with Congressional districts and swing voters, can be tricky to gauge. Party loyalty means corrupt lunatics can get re-elected in districts safe for either party, but things can get really real in the swing ones.
So anyway, bottom line, if Russia chooses to ramp up its efforts, then the response they get from America to that should be its most pragmatic after the mid-terms.
The big caveat to that being that the Biden administration seems to be loaded with people who are divorced from the consequences for their mistakes. There is so much money involved with the upkeep of the political establishment that even despicable failures get handed ridiculously lucrative sinecures after they are compelled to let go of the levers of power.
Posted by: Babel-17 | Sep 16 2022 14:53 utc | 82
YetAnotherAnon | Sep 16 2022 14:48 utc | 82
We live in a technological where everything is a target, and destruction is a simple cost/benefit analysis.
The outcome of the UA conflict will be driven by economic constraints. Expensive Wunderwaffe will be discounted by barrage munitions.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 14:56 utc | 83
85 correction: s/technological/technological age/
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 14:58 utc | 84
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 16 2022 14:35 utc | 80
From your link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Zephyr
Prime Minister Cameron stated the UK was to field a “British-designed unmanned aircraft that will fly at the edge of the Earth’s atmosphere and allow us to monitor our adversaries for weeks on end, providing critical intelligence for our armed forces.”
What happened to “we plan to closely engage emerging markets to determine where we can develop win-win solutions of benefit to both trading parties.”
Posted by: Sushi | Sep 16 2022 14:58 utc | 85
Posted by: denazi | Sep 16 2022 9:30 utc | 16
Agree
SCO is a joke. U cant trust anyone of these members. They re changing sides and opinion like others underwear.
Moreover the braindead SMO with all retreats left a catastrophic impression among SCO members and Donbass Luhansk people
The chessmaster has managed to reduce Russian army third world level.
Who wants to be protected from such an wannabe ally like Russia?
Once the situation becomes critical russians “running away like chickens”.
Very dangerous development
Posted by: Chessmaster | Sep 16 2022 15:04 utc | 86
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 16 2022 14:48 utc | 82
too scents – its not the height, it’s that it can stay up for weeks or months – more than 50 days so far. What other drone can do that?
The Qimingxing-50
Like satellites, it is fully electric-driven powered by solar energy and can operate at 20 km above the Earth’s surface for an extended period continuously.
SOURCE:
https://currentaffairs.adda247.com/qimingxing-50-chinas-first-fully-solar-powered-unmanned-aerial-vehicleuav/
The American Airbus Zephyr S drone remained in the sky for 64 continuous days before crash-landing in Arizona.
Posted by: Sushi | Sep 16 2022 15:09 utc | 88
Posted by: MArko | Sep 16 2022 11:50 utc | 55
Putin is the problem!
The war would be already over russian army occupying complete Ukriane and cleaning from nazi terrorist.
His guidelines confused russian army and intelligence service.
They dont really know what is their task.
Daily shelling without a plan proves only the brainless guidelines of SMO
U must destroy and occupy complete ukraine and hunt down ALL supportes of regime
Ukraine is doing exactly this now in the “liberated” areas
War is neither a chess or judo tournament
Posted by: Chessmaster | Sep 16 2022 15:18 utc | 89
Scotch@75
Provocations are the soup de jour for the Ukies. Obviously the policy wonks in the Di$trict of Corruption and in Whitehall are behind this latest round of assassinations in a bald-faced attempt to enrage Mama Bear. The ante is being upped on a personal basis with these terrorist takedowns occurring in the same timeframe. To date, the response from the RU military has been measured and perhaps even quite thoughtful.
Long-term, poking at the Bear is not a wise policy. Russia will respond in its own time and in their own way. When that occurs the entire world will know that the Evil Empire has gone a bridge too far.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2022 15:21 utc | 90
Posted by: Babel-17 | Sep 16 2022 14:53 utc | 84
Isnt it opposite?
The soft approach and every further defeat of russian forces in Ukraine is playing into the hands of Biden and his dems.
Only the Kharkov retreat has increased rating of Biden.
The Kharkov operation was a booster for midterms
Voter got the impression that The Biden investments into Ukraine has proven to be worthwhile.
Basically Putin is only supporting Biden and dems to win midterms with all his actions.
Posted by: Tiroler | Sep 16 2022 15:28 utc | 91
Me$$ma$ter@ 91
Hafta hand it to you. You are a master of spin. Even an old 78 vinyl cannot match your rate of spin. Khazarian Dreidels don’t even come close. “Brainless guidelines of SMO”. Where do you get this barf and garbage? So fess up, are you a Ukie, a Canuckistani Ukie; or do you earn a paycheck for your dribbling?
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2022 15:31 utc | 92
aristodemos | Sep 16 2022 15:31 utc | 94
You’re just feeding it and all it’s fellows – do not waste your time
Here’s something tastier and more significant than infantile speculation on details no one can validate or even understand except perhaps those ‘on the ground’
Besides this is more important than a village here a village there pretty soon we’re talking real villages
Pop goes the USEU Oil Price Cap
In matters of war this kind of advance and alliance is crucial
« « As to why OPEC+ seems to have raised its desired floor price, one of Reuters Saudi sources indicated that materials costs have risen with inflation and that crude producers need more revenue to make up for higher production costs.
“An oil price at $120-130 is risky and Saudi will prevent that, but at $100 it won’t have a huge impact on the global economy – Saudi would be comfortable with that price,” one of the anonymous sources said.
As for Russia, which has had to offer its oil at discounts for months, it wants to see oil at no less than $100 per barrel, two Reuters sources familiar with Russian thinking said.
With both Saudi Arabia and Russia backing the $100 oil horse, it could only be a matter of time before OPEC+ agrees to actively defend this price level by cutting production. » »
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Saudi-Arabia-And-Russia-Both-Want-100-Oil.html
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 16 2022 15:36 utc | 93
Question at large, from aristodemos:
Are U$$A torture specialists giving advice to the Ukrainian secret police and the Banderite Galician nationalists? If that is indeed the case, they have been granted a “get out of jail free” card by a U$$A District judge in the most corrupted of all federal judicial districts, the one in the Di$trict of Corruption.
“Ruling” against an appeal to have a huge U.$. Senate documentation of CIA torture techniques and tactics as used in both Iraq and Afghanistan released to the public, this alleged “public servant” claimed that American citizens have no right to know about matters affecting “national security”.
When those bass-turds chant “national security” they are not babbling about the security of the American nation, We the People, but rather the security of the criminal elements which constitute the Deep $tate.
Constitutionally, judges on the federal level have no powers to “rule”. They are obliged to follow the clear language and meaning of Constitutional Law. However, beginning with the egregious Act of 1871, in order to meet demands by London Bank$ters for repayment of Civil War debts, the then Radical Republican Congressional majority acceded to the demands of the Bank$ters and made the American people into surety for that indebtedness.
Under that bit of unconstitutional legislation, the stage was set for establishment of the United States of America CORPORATION, an entity duly registered under the corporate law of the STATE of Delaware (aka the $tate of Dupont) and the home-base of the current PretzelDunce.
So when those appointed political judges “rule” they are not making those decisions based on constitutional law, but on a corrupt agreement between an alien controlled Congre$$ and City of London BAnk$ters. Therefore, totally corrupt federal district judges can “rule” at the behest of their owners.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2022 15:43 utc | 94
NO
Biden or NATO must seek escalation before the elections in the USA in order to create a fait accompli in the event that Biden will be a toothless dog afterwards!
This is the only reason why the USA = NATO is now trying to escalate, it is about continuing in any case, regardless of whether Biden can still be a warmonger and throws billions around!
Escalation means dollars Escalation means the change that states turn away from Russia!
It’s about billions and the existence of the system of the USA = the West !!!!!
And not only Putin knows that, China knows, etc….
YES and the USA and the West know that = EU !!!
It’s about their survival!!!
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Just try to think away from the “small war” in the Ukraine!
This is a means to an end!
Without a second thought, the Stradegen in the west set off themselves….
NO ONE, NO ONE had even thought of Putin’s moves!
Europe should be the victim!
NOW IT IS THE SYSTEM IN WHOLE!!!!
Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 16 2022 15:46 utc | 95
Russia, a third world shithole with incompetent leaders like Putin, Shoigu and Lavrov and constantly drunken idiot generals leading the weak and cowardly gay army to final collapse.. hahahahahahah
Posted by: joe9211 | Sep 16 2022 9:04 utc | 9
Funny that you should mention third world shitholes. Did you know that US ranks between Cuba and Bulgaria on the list of developed countries? And both Cuba and Bulgaria generally are considered third world countries. I guess there is still hope for Cuba and Bulgaria. For the US, not so much. Despite its gay army.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/09/us-is-becoming-a-developing-country-on-global-rankings-that-measure-democracy-inequality.html
Posted by: Martina | Sep 16 2022 15:48 utc | 96
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 11:08 utc | 43
Number of insolvencies in the UK jump 43% in August. This is a title from Guardian.
Posted by: Milos | Sep 16 2022 15:48 utc | 97
Posted by: Martina | Sep 16 2022 15:48 utc | 98
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Let this chatter!
He probably doesn’t have it with reason, only with hate!
” Posted by: joe9211 | Sep 16 2022 9:04 utc | 9 ”
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Talk to refugees from the Ukraine who arrived here without an Audi A7 or SUV, who do NOT live here in pensions and hotels, who live in sports halls in Germany / Poland, Spain / France (a house) and you will hear things about the sooo democratic Ukraine, who shot whom while fleeing…NONE of these people will be allowed to give interviews in front of cameras…WHY aren’t the eyewitnesses even asked??? Why must there always be a live switch to Kyiv for the actor….. every reporter should thank his god for being able to question eyewitnesses!!!
Ergo let the idiot write …. and consider …
His chosen words are 1 to 1 those of every NAZI in history!
No democrat would say that!
Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 16 2022 16:06 utc | 98
Posted by: DS | Sep 16 2022 14:50 utc | 83
Link to RT-article about how hard it is to separate the one from the other.
https://www.rt.com/news/562869-ukrainian-women-attacked-france/
Posted by: Anne B | Sep 16 2022 16:08 utc | 99
Posted by: Johnycomelately | Sep 16 2022 9:08 utc | 11
The US is rudderless strategically, being guided by forces pushing a single agenda.
NATO member nations are self-interested at best, each trying to cope with the economic repercussions of a chaotic policy forced by the US.
Misdirection is a keynote of post-Stalin/Khrushchev Russia, the very environment where Putin cut his eyeteeth.
Supposition: Putin and the RFS were clearly stating that their goals were the establishment of autonomous states in the Donbas (the Luhansk and Donetsk Districts) and Crimea (Kherson and Zaporizhzhia Districts.)
You will notice that virtually all of the Ukraine conflict reporting completely ignores the Donbas, where Ivan has made slow but steady gains.
They completely occupy the Luhansk oblast and have been advancing steadily toward the western boundary of the Donetsk oblast.
Could it be that Russia CLEARLY stated their goals in the beginning and all the rest is typical wartime “the-Hun-eat-babies” propaganda?
Maybe the whole offensive in Kharkiv and Kyiv was misdirection to tie up significant forces while Ivan solidified their position in the east? Success could spell disaster for the UAF, while any extra land could be traded away in a future truce.
The west’s portrayal of Russia’s, and Putin’s, ambitions, goals and direction as inept empire building and “pining for the glory days” is completely out of character for both.
Posted by: JHW | Sep 16 2022 16:18 utc | 100