Ukraine Open Thread 2022-145
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Posted by b on September 4, 2022 at 13:02 UTC | Permalink
next page »During the preparation by the Kiev regime and its Western sponsors of the operation to seize the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant on September 1 of this year, specially selected and trained "media representatives" from Ukraine, the United States and Great Britain had to inform the world community in the presence of the IAEA mission about the station's transfer to Kiev's control.
For these purposes, as was confirmed on September 2 of this year from a public statement by V. Zelensky, the Kiev regime attached cars with Ukrainian and Western journalists to the IAEA motorcade by an appearance order.
The attempt of this provocation was made by Kiev contrary to the scenario of the mission's work, documented by the IAEA Secretariat and the UN Department of Safety and Security.
In accordance with the detailed and agreed documents, access to the territory of the Zaporozhye region controlled by the Russian side had to be carried out strictly on the basis of the lists previously submitted to the Russian Defense Ministry by the UN Department of Safety and Security.
There are no representatives of the Ukrainian or other media who were supposed to accompany the convoy of IAEA experts from the territory controlled by the Kiev regime to the Zaporozhye NPP on September 1 of this year in the agreed lists of the mission.
Taking into account this fact, in order to comply with the safety protocol of the mission, all unauthorized persons, when trying to cross the line of demarcation together with the IAEA motorcade, stopped and were not allowed to pass.
At the same time, at the request of the IAEA Secretariat, in order to cover the work of the mission at the Zaporizhia NPP, the Russian side provided the arrival of more than 60 media representatives to the station, including from France, the USA, China, Denmark, Japan, Germany, Turkey, Qatar, the UAE, South Korea, Vietnam and others countries.
On the morning of September 1 of this year, the journalists of this pool who arrived in Energodar turned out to be direct eyewitnesses of the failed attempt to storm the Zaporozhye NPP by Ukrainian saboteurs and, hiding in a bomb shelter, personally observed the massive artillery shelling by the AFU artillery of the territory of the nuclear power plant and residential quarters of Energodar.
Posted by: RuMoDsaid | Sep 4 2022 13:23 utc | 2
Legitimate question.
Does Ukraine put out daily briefings of its military operation like the Russian Ministry of Defense?
Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Sep 4 2022 13:36 utc | 3
Thanks MOA; i look to you and Colonel Marcus Reisner to find out what is actually happening in Ukraine. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: seenitbefore | Sep 4 2022 13:44 utc | 4
@JustAnotherAussie
No, they treat them like mushrooms. Keep them in the dark & feed them b.s.
There is an American expat, one Graham Siebert, in Kiev with a substack. From his blog, they seem to be fed the same crap that US mainstrem media feeds us.
He seems under the impression that Ukraine is winning. Falls for the b.s. hook, line & sinker.
Posted by: Mary | Sep 4 2022 13:48 utc | 5
@ JustAnotherAussie - I listen to Alexander Mercouris and FWIW he has said there is not much coming from the Ukraine side about that. One thing I notice that is missing is the tally of Russian losses. There has to be some.
Posted by: chunga | Sep 4 2022 13:48 utc | 6
From the above comments.
Western journalists know who is shelling the ZNPP.
And there's further muttering in msm about power supply to the shut down reactors being precarious.
Still not a bleat about the Ukrainian provocation.
How long before reality calls in
Or isn't that permitted.
Posted by: Jpc | Sep 4 2022 14:02 utc | 7
Strelkov:
They confirm the abandonment by our troops of the urban-type settlement of Vysokopolye in the Krivoy Rog direction. This is a significant tactical failure - earlier the enemy repeatedly tried to take this extreme stronghold of the RF Armed Forces on the distant approaches to Krivoy Rog.
Posted by: NightTripper | Sep 4 2022 14:03 utc | 8
A lot of what Ukraine says is later debunked. But in this case the military seems to want to distance itself from Ellensky's folly. Russian losses were put at around 500 vs 2 to3k Ukrain. Neither of these figures is confirmed.Although the overflowing hospitals close to the area of engagement would make the Ukraine casualties plausible. As things occur closer to central and west Ukraine,I imagine Kiev will have a much harder time with the spin.
Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 14:03 utc | 9
Uk Daily Mail:
Gas prices are expected to surge again tomorrow after Russia shut off Nord Stream supply pipeline indefinitely in retaliation for G7's price cap on Russian oil
Posted by: NightTripper | Sep 4 2022 14:04 utc | 10
@Just another Aussie
The Ukrainian Defense Ministry has an English language news site: https://www.mil.gov.ua/en/news/
It is not really useful. They don't post full daily reports, just updates now and then. Their count of Russian losses is laughable.
I am posting the following in it's entirety....
BECAUSE.....
It covers in detail the economic means being exploited by the Allies in their SMO...
As always.... cogent comments are welcome....
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker
"Let's face facts:
Carbon-based fuels are the reason for modern society.
[cut off for being way too long ... - b.]
From other sources.. I learned that the $Billions of weapons scheduled toade to support NATO's eastward push, and their confrontation with China... will remain on the drawing board....
BECAUSE....
The NATO countries don't have the resources... Chips...metals... fuel...
NEEDED....
To make them...
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 4 2022 14:22 utc | 12
Thank you for the replies everyone. And thanks for that link B. I just checked it out. No details just a running summary.
One side lists details including specific equipment and places with daily reports spanning pages. The other gives a 2 line briefing.
I also note that they do not give a rebuttal to the Russian specifics which would be something easy to do since they give a lot of detail that can be independently verified or contradicted.
Anyone with any kind of academic training would regard the Ukraine information with deep skepticism.
Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Sep 4 2022 14:24 utc | 13
There are plenty of good objective sites on Telegram which are far more trustworthy than Mercouris. I strongly suggest before anyone elects to take that bloke at his word they spen d a little effort checking out that bloke's history. Everyone has to have an earner and Mercouris appears to have elected himself Russia 'expert' as a way to put food on the table after he was struck off. That makes me wary as once or twice lately he appears to me to have moderated some of his POVs rather than risk a youtube de-monetisation. Same, same for Christoforou, the duran mob make no bones about their posts being an earner with all their merchandising etc, however when people do that it is only a matter of time before they find themselves having to make the same sort of compromises corporate media make, just to stay in the black.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 4 2022 14:25 utc | 14
" There are plenty of good objective sites on Telegram which are far more trustworthy than Mercouris. I strongly suggest before anyone elects to take that bloke at his word they spen d a little effort checking out that bloke's history. Everyone has to have an earner and Mercouris appears to have elected himself Russia 'expert' as a way to put food on the table after he was struck off. That makes me wary as once or twice lately he appears to me to have moderated some of his POVs rather than risk a youtube de-monetisation. Same, same for Christoforou, the duran mob make no bones about their posts being an earner with all their merchandising etc, however when people do that it is only a matter of time before they find themselves having to make the same sort of compromises corporate media make, just to stay in the black. "
i found mercouris reports highy accurate
Posted by: Gonzo | Sep 4 2022 14:38 utc | 15
Debsisdead (14):
I've been listening to Mercouris's and Christofouros's sage analyses for years--if you diss them, provide some specific examples of their biases and errors.
An interesting document by the Rand corp.
https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2022/mit-hilfe-der-gruenen-die-usa-planen-die-zerstoerung-der-deutschen-wirtschaft/
German version first, followed by original English version.
Summary: How the US can – with the help of the Greens – ruin Europe.
Sorry if this has been posted before.
Posted by: Question Mark | Sep 4 2022 14:39 utc | 17
To Debsisdead and his number 14 post.
You claim Mercouris is untrustworthy and you smear his name, yet you never mentions once when he has lied. Not once. Because you can't.
I find that very low budget and beneath contempt.
Alex and Alexander of The Duran are excellent at what they do and contribute useful thoughts and analysis on geopolitics every day. They are very careful about what they say and how they say it. They never make outlandish claims or unsupported conclusions. They have class.
Posted by: JustAMaverick | Sep 4 2022 14:41 utc | 18
Posted by: RuMoDsaid | Sep 4 2022 13:23 utc | 2
And
Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 14:03 utc | 9
Thank you to both for your information , and I agree with you. The problem is that the West does not report any of the truth you mention. That is the why very few Average Joes in the Natoist countries know , or care , about who really is the evil perpetrator. The nuclear inspectors won’t say a word in any widely - read media for fear of their jobs and lives. So we are in the same position that we were in before. Noone knows the honest truth about what Russia is doing.
Bob, regardless of the debunkings ,there are very few retractions ever made in Natoist newspapers ,when done , they are away from the front pages and done weeks later. In short ,noone amongst the Average Joes remembers or cares . It brings to mind the old adage “ A lie runs around the whole world by the time truth gets out of bed and ties its shoelaces”. Very sad and very frustrating , but still very true.
Russia must ensure relevant videos of UN nuclear inspectors hunkering down in Energodar NPP must be shown on social media ,even constantly ,even if they have to hack everyones’ to do so. Only then will square -eyed , digital -savvy youth start believing what is going on . To these numbskulls , “no photo ,it didn’t happen” …
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 4 2022 14:44 utc | 19
I saw on the British broadcasting clowns website yesterday a 2 line report on Russian claims of an attempted capture by UAF of the ZNPP, right above the article was an article about how to clean your arsehole with wax paper and then recycle the wax paper to make a candle and so save money this winter and stick it to Russia.
Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Sep 4 2022 14:52 utc | 20
Posted by: Question Mark | Sep 4 2022 14:39 utc | 16
Thanks for the link to this website but there is no English translation unless you do an auto translate with software etc.
Do you have an English version anywhere?
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 4 2022 14:53 utc | 21
right above the article was an article about how to clean your arsehole with wax paper and then recycle the wax paper to make a candle and so save money this winter and stick it to Russia.Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Sep 4 2022 14:52 utc | 20
Why stop there? Some cultures use dried cow chips as fuel. Presumably the same could be done with human waste.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 4 2022 14:57 utc | 22
Thank you b,
Long time lurker since Maiden and the Malaysia Air debacle over Ukraine.
The trolls are a plenty. Paid to sow dissent and get your website put on the Google naughty list. Thankfully, you dont have advertising which is their tool for getting Google to demonetize you.
Keep up the good work.
Regards,
Posted by: Joe Dont Surg | Sep 4 2022 15:05 utc | 23
Duran is a little right wing cult. I listened for about 4 months non stop. Then had to stop as the grift was becoming too damn obvious and unbearable. Other than Martyanov, most of their guests are "pay me daddy" right wing chislers and crypto birchers. Are you in the cult? People in cults seem to be unable to see they are in cults.
Telegram channels to follow
in English:
https://t.me/intelslava
https://t.me/sputnik
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka
https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng
https://t.me/mapsukraine
https://t.me/IntelRepublic
https://t.me/levigodman
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses
https://t.me/Slavyangrad
https://t.me/RTnewseu
https://t.me/TheEternalUkrainian2
https://t.me/asbmil
https://t.me/azmilitary11
https://t.me/iEarlGreyTV
https://t.me/CyberspecNews
https://t.me/RWApodcast
https://t.me/mod_russia_en
https://t.me/Slavyangrad
Have a nice weekend
Posted by: Wester | Sep 4 2022 15:06 utc | 24
Re: Debsisdead | Sep 4 2022 14:25 utc | 14
Wondering if this post is really coming from the same Debisdead who is a long-time MoA poster?
Posted by: Perimetr | Sep 4 2022 15:10 utc | 25
Indeed, the usual DebsIsDead ad hominem.
What someone says, on its own merits, doesn’t matter so much as their full clean ideological history.
Mercouris and Christoforou are always clear what is their opinion vs what they consider verified, vs what they do not consider verified.
They always give credit to others when news or analysis comes from others.
Are they perfect? Nobody is. But they have built up credibility over months of reporting in a highly charged, ideological and propagandistic environment.
Your criticisms of them are unwarranted and would be a discredit to yourself, if your were not already discredited in my own personal view.
Posted by: c1ue | Sep 4 2022 15:12 utc | 26
I discouvered Mercouris on here have been listening regularly lately. I think he's doing a good job.
Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Sep 4 2022 15:16 utc | 27
I am new to Telegram and find it very difficult to use without a cell phone. I did finally establish an account using my wife's android cell phone. One thing that has me confounded is setting "auto-translate" specifically for the Rybar channel on my desktop PC. It just does not work.
Posted by: chunga | Sep 4 2022 15:17 utc | 28
"i found mercouris reports highy accurate"
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He gets ahead of events on the ground sometimes in my experience. He's generally accurate for things that have already happened and passing on general news, but can take positive development from the front for DPR\LPR\RU and sometimes make far more of it than it is by jumping to unsupported conclusions. Example weeks ago report: "rpt: fighting in solidar, fighting outskirts of bakhmut"; Alexander: "It looks like the whole AFU front around soledar and bakhmut is now collapsing"... no alex it's not collapsing, and still hasn't, there is just some hard fought for progress in the area - no need to put out false expectations.
I could give other past examples, that said I find he's worth the time overall to listen too (at 1.5x speed lol), more for the geo-politics and less for the battlefield updates - unless you're not reading all the raw telegram feeds for yourself, and just want a general sense of things.
Posted by: knighthawk | Sep 4 2022 15:18 utc | 29
Channels like The Duran offer summary information,that would otherwise require many hours of searching and filtering. Concise and not afraid to admit errors,it's a worthwhile service. I think some people don't know the difference between a service and a grift.
Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 15:20 utc | 30
@Wester #24
One I would recommend adding to your list:
https://t.me/s/boris_rozhin (Colonelcassad)
Posted by: knighthawk | Sep 4 2022 15:21 utc | 31
I am new to Telegram and find it very difficult to use without a cell phone. I did finally establish an account using my wife's android cell phone. One thing that has me confounded is setting "auto-translate" specifically for the Rybar channel on my desktop PC. It just does not work.
I don't have an telegram account, but I view all the basics feeds in normal browser just adding /s/ before the user name, the downside is you can't view any video that are more then short clips, but oh well. Yes you'll often need a translator plugin, I find Brave browser with google translate plugin works well for me to view telegram feeds without problems. Give it a try if interested.
Posted by: knighthawk | Sep 4 2022 15:32 utc | 32
@ Brother Ma 21
I speak enough German so I didn’t check out the English version – and checking at RAND itself is useless.
No I don’t have an English version – the only possibilities seem to be Google or Yandex
Posted by: Question Mark | Sep 4 2022 15:40 utc | 33
"most of their guests are "pay me daddy" right wing chislers and crypto birchers. Are you in the cult?"
I find it very interesting to read the Reuters account of the 70,000+ protesters out in Prague yesterday as "communists and fascist extremists" and now post 24 likens those who listen to the Duran as 'cult members"
If ""pay me daddy" right wing chislers and crypto birchers." are also against the last 40 years of US led bullying and war mongering then yes count me in.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 4 2022 15:42 utc | 34
I'll try that knighthawk. Thanks. Another source I check is Brian who runs "New Atlas" on youtube. He did a thing the other day on a 2019 Rand Corp. paper that was pretty much a must see.
Posted by: chunga | Sep 4 2022 15:43 utc | 35
HB_Norica @ 34
If ""pay me daddy" right wing chislers and crypto birchers." are also against the last 40 years of US led bullying and war mongering then yes count me in.
You beat me to that line. Never watched them now I have to make some time. Does someone remember Uneasy Rider? "I'm a faithful follower of Brother John Birch And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church.
"Well you may not know it but this man is a spy.
He's a undercover agent for the FBI
And he's been sent down here to infiltrate the Ku Klux Klan!"
He was still bent over holdin' on to his knee
But everybody else was lookin' and listenin' to me
And I laid it on thicker and heavier as I went
I said "Would you believe this man has gone as far
As tearing Wallace stickers off the bumpers of cars
And he voted for George McGovern for President."
"Well he's a friend of them long haired, hippy-type, pinko fags!
I betchya he's even got a commie flag
Tacked up on the wall inside of his garage."
"He's a snake in the grass, I tell ya guys
He may look dumb but that's just a disguise
He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage"
They all started lookin' real suspicious at him and
He jumped up and said "Now just wait a minute Jim!
You know he's lyin' I been livin' here all of my life!"
"I'm a faithful follower of Brother John Birch
And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church.
And I ain't even got a garage, you can call home and ask my wife!"
Posted by: circumspect | Sep 4 2022 16:01 utc | 36
I'll throw my hat into the rink on Alexander Mercouris. His podcasts are mostly summaries of a lot of information from various sources, and he states them as such. A lot of time he has spent more time looking at various sources than I have. When he gives his personal opinion of what is going on, which half the time is wrong, he is open about it. I still appreciate his opinions as it gives one something to think about. Whatever his past was, he is currently giving good service to his viewers. Overall, I give him two thumbs up! :-)
Posted by: Douglas Houck | Sep 4 2022 16:04 utc | 37
The rising energy costs mean that, if you are a good capitalist, you lay off the staff now and shut down the business, possibly in a mothballed form. Otherwise you will go broke, if not this month, or next month, but maybe the month after that.
There is one sector excluded from that. The MIC. The collective West are willing to trawl the globe and buy any artillery shells they can, for example from Pakistan, to send them to Ukraine for instant destruction. Whilst normal industry closes, the arms industry booms.
Posted by: P J | Sep 4 2022 16:04 utc | 38
@Debsisdead | Sep 4 2022 14:25 utc | 14
Your credibility just took a deep dive. Your comments is from this point weighted by a very small factor. Reason: Ad hominem attack on real journalists not posting here.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2022 16:05 utc | 39
@chunga 35 - Yeah I saw that from Brian at The New Atlas, as well as his one yesterday on the Kherson offensive overall, agree his content is usually worth the time.
Posted by: knighthawk | Sep 4 2022 16:07 utc | 40
If meat-grinder of Ukrainian forces by Russia is what we have, then I have no doubt whatsoever that that is what Biden and Johnson intended and planned for us to have. I don't really believe in finger-in-mouth , butter-wouldn't-melt, politicians saying , ' oh we never thought that was going to happen if we spentc20 years arming Ukraine against Russia.
No. What we have is what Biden and Johnson intended use to have, I.e. ,a cull of Ukrainian citizens creating zero resistance to consumption/privatisation. I didn't say Russia was acting with USUKIS; I said Russia condoned the fact that she was going to be the chosen instrument for Biden and Johnson's evil, neo-colonial plan to consume Ukraine.
We're not capable of encompassing the depths of evil of the anglo-sphinctus empire. Maybe Putin is, but us Brits have a lot to learn about just how evil our governments are capable of being.
Posted by: Giyane | Sep 4 2022 16:11 utc | 41
This Ritter-Lira-Mercouris-whomever discussion is a waste of time, I’ll chip in my dime, all sources are fine and up to a critical mind to sift through them. I follow mostly Russian tg channels, if Mercouris has anything hard to digest that is the length of his clips, too much time, but I enjoy his accent and lexical abilities, good to polish a bit my poor English. Once in a while he is fine but a constant following takes a lot of precious time.
Posted by: Paco | Sep 4 2022 16:16 utc | 42
@ Perimetr | Sep 4 2022 15:10 utc | 25
after reading b's post earlier today on comment moderation - one has to always consider this! thanks for the reminder... we need to have this reminder regularly..
Posted by: james | Sep 4 2022 16:17 utc | 43
i wonder how many consider this?? it looks like even some of the regulars haven't!
Posted by: james | Sep 4 2022 16:19 utc | 44
Brother Ma | Sep 4 2022 14:53 utc | 21
Select the translated text, right-click on it, select Print, and save it as a pdf.
Posted by: donten | Sep 4 2022 16:30 utc | 45
I'm going to respectfully disagree. The west expected Russia to fold under the sanctions onslaughtThis failed,well more like boomeranged... However being idealogues with no reverse gear they had no way out,only to keep doubling down. At this point even after Russia claims Ukraine,for most of the west there is no way back. Hungary has signed a long term deal with Gazprom. This shows the fundamental difference in a leader who see's 'his people' and someone like Beerbong,who sees the Germans as an ATM for her ideolgy.
Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 16:30 utc | 46
PJ@38
True enough. The WarDefense industry is the only major production industry still standing in the U$$A---that is, if you discount the consumer-direct petroleum industry. While China builds 300MPH bullet-trains, the U$$A trains it's bullet-catchers in various military basic-training institutions. It's a shit-sad, story but all too real.
Calling this bank$ter #1 money-maker the "WarDefense Industry" is calling a spade a spade. What it is all about is the defense of blood-money profits for the financier elite. Ukraine is viewed as a huge opportunity to blow off all the old production and ramp up the lines once again, all paid for by taxpayer dollars and "Federal" Reserve inflationary policies.
...Or as Leonard Cohen lays it out in "Everybody Knows"..."The rich get rich and the poor get poor". Meanwhile, the Pro$titicians in the Di$trict of corruption are pleasingly bribed to go along with the charade and the fake-news pre$$tutes keep spinning those lies in order to keep the general populace deliberately dumbed-down into a state of terminal stupor.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 4 2022 16:30 utc | 47
Michael Roberts Has an excellent analysis of the latest round of sanctions proposed against Russia: the Oil Price Cap. He sums up the current and rapidly worsening socio-economic situation in Europe and the UK in particular.
The economic conditions that he outlines are very close to being 'pre-revolutionary.' All that is needed is a political focus for the popular explosion that must come.
"... Meanwhile, the huge rises in global energy (and food) prices are creating a cost of living catastrophe. Everywhere in Europe, real wages are crashing.
"It’s worst of all in Britain. The Bank of England (BoE) forecasts the inflation rate to peak at 13.3% in October and real household disposable income is set to fall by 3.7% across 2022 and 2023, making those two years the worst on record. But it may be even worse than that. Citibank forecasts inflation is on course to rise to 18.6 per cent in January, the highest peak in almost half a century, due to soaring wholesale gas prices. And Goldman Sachs goes further as it expects even larger gas rises, and now expects UK inflation to peak at 22%!
"As always, it’s the poor that take the hardest hit. Over 40% of UK households will not be able to heat their homes properly in January when energy bills rise yet again. Yes, this Britain in 2022. About 28mn people in 12mn homes, or 42 per cent of all households, will not be able to afford to adequately heat and power their properties from January, when a typical yearly energy bill is forecast to exceed £5,300. Even by October, when Britain’s energy price cap will rise 80 per cent to £3,549 9m households will face fuel poverty. With the current cost-of-living crisis being felt hardest by low-income households, absolute poverty is on track to rise by three million over the next two years), while relative child poverty is projected to reach its highest level (33% in 2026-27) since the peaks of the 1990s..."
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2022/09/04/energy-cost-of-living-and-recession/
Posted by: bevin | Sep 4 2022 16:34 utc | 48
@ Bob | Sep 4 2022 16:30 utc | 47
i agree with you.. who are you respectfully disagreeing with? i missed it!
Posted by: james | Sep 4 2022 16:34 utc | 49
A lot of history to research and learn about the Ukraine. It seems that descendants of the Khazars want that territory back by any means necessary. See John Stewart.
We have these descendants dictating US foreign policy.
Coups, Color Revolutions, all out war.
Vic Nuland summed it up. "F*** the EU, she said. She might as well have said, "F*** the US as well.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Sep 4 2022 16:38 utc | 50
Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 4 2022 14:25 utc | 14
You are clearly very unworldly.
Mercouris comes from a Greek political family with a pedigree. Christoforou is the son of a Greek diplomat. The Duran was founded by Peter Lavelle and Alex Mercouris. It serves its audience very well.
Mercouris had a bad experience with NHS medication and ruined his career as a barrister, which is sad because he had an excellent background in The Royal Courts of Justice as a legal worker before becoming a barrister. He nevertheless brings an incisive viewpoint to bear - but is very cautious - in expressing he is no military strategist.
It is one of a number of informative and interesting channels.
I have no need of the Oracle of Delphi - I reach my own conclusions. It gets tedious reading hare-brained polemics from trainee trolls targeting others.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 4 2022 16:41 utc | 51
Really interesting post on Wagner-affiliated "GREY ZONE" telegram:
If you don't use t.me or don't like machine translations there is a manual one here with some light pro-Ukrainian commentary:
Significant claims are that "Barge D-Day" didn't happen (well - I told you that already) and that Russian aviation & arty are underwhelming in Kherson region but troops are managing to avoid encirclement as they fall back. Also that TDF is leading assaults which I am surprised/skeptical of, but it's not good news for Russia if TDF and volunteers are able to execute successful assaults with no arty advantage against paratroopers holding prepared defense - suggests they are kitted up and well trained by now.
Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 4 2022 16:44 utc | 52
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 4 2022 16:30 utc | 48
Under Thatcher and Reagan they let Manufacturing go and be offshored. The only sector they protected was Defence - which is why GE took out RCA and sold off its consumer divisions but kept its defence side.
The British engineering sector went to the wall - only defence was protected which is why BAe acquired Marconi from the break-up of GEC plc and Siems acquired the rest - and why Racal disappeared - and why Vickers went - and why US got control of Aldermaston and much of the British engineering sector - often through private equity operators.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 4 2022 16:45 utc | 53
"So, does this mean the Russians HAVEN'T cut off gas to Germany and it was just a troll?"
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Does what mean?
The last I heard was the oil leak found during the maintenance window, which Siemens was onsite to confirm as a legit issue needing addressing at the Portovaya compressor station near St.Petersburg, has not yet been resolved yet and NS1 isn't pumping as of early this morning, and the "indefinite" hold is still active. (no matter if that's due to legit technical issues, politics, or price-cap absurdity, or all mix of all 3 imho).
Posted by: knighthawk | Sep 4 2022 16:46 utc | 54
For: Night Tripper
SIEMENS confirmed oil leaks from the turbine motor-compression unit. The highly complex unit is a high-speed kinetic bomb. Iranians know the effects, albeit with different rotating things, centrifuges, sabotaged by Israelis. I think, that the oil leak would be a trigger to shut the compressor, if in any other country. Like, UK - where from the machine is. Is SIEMENS retaliating than, for political reasons?
Posted by: LogosApplied | Sep 4 2022 16:54 utc | 55
@ JustAnotherAussie
The Small Wars Journal publishes a daily WAR BULLETIN as issued by the Ukraine Embassy in Washington, DC.
Good for a laugh.
Their latest bulletin:
https://smallwarsjournal.com/blog/ukraine-war-bulletin-september-1-600-pm-est
Embassy of Ukraine in the USA
WAR BULLETIN
September 1, 6.00 pm EST
WAR ROOM
General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
The total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02 to 01.09 were approximately:
personnel - about 48350 (+450),
tanks ‒ 1997 (+23),
APV ‒ 4345 (+33),
artillery systems – 1115 (+24),
MLRS – 287 (+2),
Anti-aircraft warfare systems - 153 (+1),
aircraft – 234 (+0),
helicopters – 205 (+1),
UAV operational-tactical level – 851 (+2),
cruise missiles - 196 (+0),
warships / boats - 15 (+0),
vehicles and fuel tanks – 3239 (+3),
special equipment - 104 (+1).
Russian enemy suffered the greatest losses (of the last day) in the Donetsk and Kurakhove directions. Data are being updated.
The one hundred ninetieth (190) day of the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to a Russian military invasion continues.
The enemy is concentrating its efforts on establishing full control over the territory of Donetsk oblast, as well as maintaining the captured areas of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia, and Mykolaiv oblasts.
The enemy continues to carry out air and missile attacks on military and civilian objects on all the territory of Ukraine.
The situation remains unchanged in the Volyn and Polissya directions. Units of the Armed Forces of the republic of belarus continue to carry out the task of strengthening the protection of the section of the belarusian-Ukrainian border in the Brest and Gomel regions.
The threat of the enemy launching missiles and air strikes from the territory and airspace of the republic of belarus remains.
etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum.....
They quantify claimed losses in the first section, but unlike the Russians, do not identify where they inflicted those losses anywhere in the body of the bulletin
Posted by: ltexpat | Sep 4 2022 17:02 utc | 56
Speaking of the Duran, I propose a drinking game: Drink a shot of liquor each time Alex M. says "I just have to say". ;-)
If someone dislikes spending 30 minutes consuming text (skimming blog headlines, reading this comments section) and prefers listening/watching a couple of amiable people with some really good guests for 2-3 hours, it serves a purpose. As you can infer from my framing, I spend much more time reading but nevertheless like the Duran guys and watch /on occasion/.
At times, Mercouris seems to suggest the UK regime is some kind of bit player in this, even though many of his other observations strongly suggest otherwise. I wonder what that's about, enough to wonder whether it's connected to whatever Debs is alluding to. I never consumed any of their material before this year.
Posted by: dfg | Sep 4 2022 17:06 utc | 57
@Paul Greenwood | Sep 4 2022 16:45 utc | 53
Well said!
Read everything and use critical thinking skill as opposed to 'believe everything some(one) tells you'.
Posted by: James Cook | Sep 4 2022 17:08 utc | 58
circumspect re: post 36 'uneasy rider'
Honey and the Rock!!! ... this long haired country boy wore the grooves off that album back in the day!
Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 4 2022 17:26 utc | 59
Posted by: Question Mark | Sep 4 2022 15:40 utc | 33
Thanks for getting back to me, Mark. I will manage.
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 4 2022 17:28 utc | 60
Posted by: Wester | Sep 4 2022 15:06 utc | 24
I’ve no idea whether what you say about Duran is true or not, I consume almost no audio or video current affairs, but thanks for the Telegram links anyway!
Given the way SMO has brought Telegram to the fore, I wonder if our gracious host would consider adding a curated section of Telegram links to the “Blogroll and Links” section?
To judge from feedback here in the comments, a lot of us, me included, are fumbling around in the dark when it comes to which Telegram channels are worth following.
Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 4 2022 17:33 utc | 61
Mother Russia already has floored one beautiful church with armor repurposed from tanks and artillery of The Third Reich. Now they have enough tanks and artillery of The Fourth Reich to floor another beautiful church. I am all for Mother Russia building churches for her children using materials hard-won from those who insult Her.
Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Sep 4 2022 17:34 utc | 62
Posted by: donten | Sep 4 2022 16:30 utc | 45
Thank you ,Donten. Good way to way to keep it as well.
Posted by: Giyane | Sep 4 2022 16:11 utc | 41
Excellent take , but no means accurate about the Russians. They may have honestly thought Ukraine would have given up after an initial pummelling , and even now seem to care they are destroying their kin. It could simply be that the evil Yank Establishment did hope that the ukros dying would help privatisation and it is simply serendipitous for them that Russia appears to be doing a good job of it. Well they seem to be too smart or lucky by half . If Russia wins , those Establishment types won’t get their greedy hands on an ukro lands or industry. They will just take ours once they buy up all the businesses out of action in Europe…
Posted by: Brother Ma | Sep 4 2022 17:40 utc | 63
“well - I told you that already” - Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 4 2022 16:44 utc | 52You did. You were lying then. You are lying now.
https://southfront.org/troubled-iaea-mission/
https://sputniknews.com/20220904/russian-mod-journalists-witnessed-ukrainian-saboteurs-failed-storming-of-zaporozhye-npp-1100359547.html
https://sonar21.com/ukraine-does-damage-control-as-counter-attack-falters/
UKRAINE DOES DAMAGE CONTROL AS COUNTER ATTACK FALTERS
2 September 2022 by Larry Johnson
The Ukrainian offensive near Kherson in the south and Kharkiv in the north is failing. That explains why Ukrainian President Zelensky imposed restrictions the other day on what news western correspondents could report from the front. In fact, many of these reporters were pulled from the front lines. Do you think Ukraine would do that if they were pounding the hell out of the Russians and forcing the Russians to retreat? No. The west would be flooded with videos of triumphant Ukrainian troops celebrating victory.
Instead of celebrations, there are videos surfacing showing Ukrainian losses in the aftermath of their failed attempt to capture the Zaporhyzhia Nuclear Power Plant (aka NPP).
At the close of today’s battle, the situation in the Nikolaevsko-Krivoy Rog is dire for Ukrainian forces.
▪️By the end of the fourth day of the Ukrainian offensive against Kherson, the RF Armed Forces successfully repelled the offensive in all sectors, restoring the front line near Posad-Pokrovsky and Olgino. The most fierce battles unfolded on the Andreevsky sector of the front.
▪️Despite the destruction of the command post of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Berezhuvate and the disabling of a large warehouse with weapons and ammunition in Belaya Krinitsa, Ukrainian commanders continued to transfer equipment and personnel to the bridgehead on the southern coast.
▪️Reinforcements were driven across the open steppe through a narrow corridor at Sukhoi Stavka and Kostromka to the Davydov Brod-Novaya Kakhovka highway. The Ukrainian Armed Forces succeeded in occupying the ghost village of Bezimenne, west of Karlomarksovskoye, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces tried unsuccessfully to take by storm.
▪️Russian Su-34s and Su-24s, as well as cannon and rocket artillery guns, disabled the pontoon crossings of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Andreevka and began to methodically destroy the enemy forces trapped in the fire bag. The forces in Bezimenne were destroyed.
▪️At the same time, from the side of Blagodatovka, the RF Armed Forces crossed Ingulets and crossed to the northern coast, breaking through the defensive lines in the village of Ternovka and capturing a bridgehead.
3rd counteroffensive attempt of the AFU in Kherson oblast, with basically same deplorable results. Dozens of ambulances seen on Ukrainian side going back and forth, transporting multiple wounded to the hospitals. Some battles are still underway with results yet unclear.
Ukrainian attack north of Kharkov, units that broke through partly destroyed, partly taken prisoners with their commanding officers.
Donbass: a definintive breach of the 2nd line of defense near Peski now confirmed. The fortified area between Peski and Pervomayskoye, that, as Yuri says, holds the key to the whole front, have been taken by the 11th Militia Regiment of the DPR.
The capture of Peski by Russian forces means that Russia will have an open road to the Dnieper River to the west. This does not mean that Ukraine will cease its efforts to re-take the Zaporhyzhia NPP. But it does mean Ukraine can no longer paint Russia as the villain. The IAEA inspectors on scene at the plant are voluntary human shields. If Ukraine kills or wounds any of those inspectors it is likely to force a change in the UN position towards the Russian Special Military Operation.
Once the full scale of Ukrainian losses in their counter offensive becomes widely known, the political divisions within the Zelensky government are likely to grow. There is a video online in Ukrainian with a Ukrianian General stating that Ukrainian losses are “hundreds of thousands.” This is a fact that will not remain hidden and will add to the turmoil swirling around Zelensky. How long will the Ukrainian people continue to support a policy where their husbands and sons are being used as cannon fodder? That is a critical indicator to monitor during September.
Posted by: DocHollywood | Sep 4 2022 17:41 utc | 64
LogosApplied | Sep 4 2022 16:54 utc | 55
My understanding was that there were six gas compressors attached to Nordstream 1. One is in Canada, another in Germany and the other has failed in place. If this is so, where are the other three? Or is it that Nordstream 1 is two pipelines, and Gazprom has diverted gas from it somewhere else?
Posted by: Hereward | Sep 4 2022 17:50 utc | 65
The New Atlas has an excellent take on BTG vs NATO(Ukranian) Brigades. Once Ukraine was restricted to a narrow front it was over.
Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 17:55 utc | 66
MK Bhadrakumar's column discussed a dire future for the Zelensky regime: Face up to reality or having to face this same reality later when the West isin a still poorer position to negotiate a more face-saving agreement. He cited the views of a Bush-era general, Mark Kimmitt.
Yes indeed! The West has had its head buried deep in the sand since Oct. of 2021 when Russia first voiced the demand of security reciprocation. The West collectively has played on its own narrative as the truth to spread on western MSM, since and even before then. Zelensky has played along, at Ukraine's costs in lives and economy, for his own standing in the eyes of his Western patron. Had he resorted to common sense and think through the consequences of being the western pawn against a vastly superior Russia and knowing full well also that Russia's demand was actually reasonable and legitimate, he would have settled for Minks II and since then live in peace with Mother Russia. But no, the lure of a fantasized good life somewhere in the West (western side of the Atlantic, probably) was too much to resist, regardless of how many of his countrymen would be in mortal peril. The same can be said of the rest of EU/NATO, sans the Americans. EU/European NATO know all the economical and security consequences to them in poking Russia's eyes, yet these fools took the plunge.
America is the BIF winner. It incurred no material nor political costs. It got EU/NATO firmly under its thumb. It's laughing all the way to the bank now that it got EU firmly under control in energy and other commodity supplies. Many here at this whisky bar have been calling American leadership fools, well, these fools are likely to enjoy the last laughs.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Sep 4 2022 17:58 utc | 67
Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 4 2022 16:44 utc | 52
Your "greyzone/wagner" reporting comes from an anonymous claiming to be in the heart of the battle. It was already debunked when you posted it. Therefore you obviously reads only the pro-NATO channels, which makes most of your posts a waste of time.
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 4 2022 17:59 utc | 68
Moderately familiar with rotating capital equipment (30 years manufacturing 😳)
The SNAFUs happening with NS1 are typical and to-be-expected. that’s why they are extra compressor trains - shame Canada sanctioned that overhauled RB211.
For example - USN in similar application would have triple redundancy - one machine can run the ship solo, one machine being overhauled, and one machine FUBAR.
I doubt Gazprom is up to anything nefarious on NS1 simply from my experience with such equipment.
NS2 is sitting there waiting to delivery beaucoup cheap NG. Most interesting iddn‘t ?
Posted by: Exile | Sep 4 2022 17:59 utc | 69
Brother Ma @ 63
I was extremely naive about the 2007/8 crash, except for noticing that a property I bought at the top of the housing market from a charity for Jewish orphans, lost half its value, and if I had kept it, would now be 50 % more valuable than what I first paid.
Rises and falls in property value, whether created by war or lies, are manipulated.
No wonder the political class are not concerned about the impending cost of everything crisis. As you say, business or residential property this well-planned crisis is going to be the biggest bonanza for the 1% in 1000 years.
Anybody who owes the banks will get ground down by the banks and anybody who has capital in a bank, like wills waiting to be distributed will only get their minimum £30 grand out if they try to withdraw it.
Bonanza Biden and Bojo. Or ' Bingay ' according to Steve Bell.
Posted by: Giyane | Sep 4 2022 18:00 utc | 70
leaked report on the state of the UK-trained Ukrainians
probably common knowledge by now, very interesting read.
Posted by: @vec | Sep 4 2022 18:00 utc | 71
#RuMoDsaid 2
"During the preparation by the Kiev regime and its Western sponsors of the operation to seize the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant on September 1 of this year, specially selected and trained "media representatives" from Ukraine, the United States and Great Britain had to inform the world community in the presence of the IAEA mission about the station's transfer to Kiev's control."
Specially selected and trained media representatives - Was Vindman one of them?
Posted by: Orchard1 | Sep 4 2022 18:01 utc | 72
Yenwoda | Sep 4 2022 16:44 utc | 52
DocHollywood | Sep 4 2022 17:41 utc | 64
Anyone who cites SouthFront as a credible information source has an instant credibility problem. Sputnik is a glorified tabloid, so you lose points for that one too. I don't known much about Sonar so will withhold judgment on that.
Yenwoda does not "lie." He has a rationalist approach to how the world actually works rather than the psuedo-ideology that often appears in this forum, and I would take to the bank much of what he says when it comes to geopolitics. I agree less with his opinions on the military situation in Ukraine proper because that is outside his area of expertise. But those are his opinions. He does not "lie."
You have a simplistic view of how political forces actually work, so quit labeling other posters as "liars" when their reasoned judgments conflict with your emotional opinions.
As for the Parisan Guy post, it kind of speaks for itself.
Posted by: Clausewitz | Sep 4 2022 18:04 utc | 73
Sorry, BIF should read BIG in my post #67. The bad habit of not editing before posting.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Sep 4 2022 18:14 utc | 74
"I am new to Telegram and find it very difficult to use without a cell phone. I did finally establish an account using my wife's android cell phone. One thing that has me confounded is setting "auto-translate" specifically for the Rybar channel on my desktop PC. It just does not work."
_____________________
You have to get the telegram desktop app... https://desktop.telegram.org/
Cheers
Posted by: Craig | Sep 4 2022 18:15 utc | 75
Clausewitz @73
Trollwoda cites barfingcat. That is the same thing as lying.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 4 2022 18:17 utc | 76
Posted by: Hereward | Sep 4 2022 17:50 utc | 65
Putin told us in the famous TV interview that there are 5 and one of them is reserve.
1 was in Canada then, now in Germany
1 scheduled for maintenance, now stopped or taken out
1 defect already back then, confirmed by Siemens
1 okay, now found leaking
1 reserve
It would be good to know in what circumstances the reserve would be started.
Posted by: John Henry Mackay | Sep 4 2022 18:21 utc | 77
“I would take to the bank much of what he says when it comes to geopolitics.” - Posted by: Clausewitz | Sep 4 2022 18:04 utc | 73That sums up your credibility problem.
You have a simplistic view of how political forces actually workProject much?
so quit labeling other posters as "liars" when their reasoned judgments conflict with your emotional opinions.Denying an event or action that took place isn’t a “reasoned judgement”; it’s lying. Those who repeat their lies are liars.
Posted by: DocHollywood | Sep 4 2022 18:24 utc | 78
Hard to believe nobody reposted KimDotCom's thread from Twitter yet. I did not know he was German. Glad to see another voice out there calling out how the 'powers that be' (Deep State) in the U.S. that detest (and have always detested) the resilience of the German state, and by association, the public welfare of all Germans.
That's why I'm so perplexed at the near total lack of reaction to our (US) purposeful destruction of the German state - and apparently the EU as a whole. I would think some of you would be plenty pissed off about that. Germans/Europeans that post here seem angry, but none of that sentiment ever gets from Germans to U.S. citizens through the filter of mainstream media. Too bad. The most powerful weapon you have to beat us over the head is U.S. political elite classes' withering, bug-eyed homicidal narcissism.
As in most matters, this doesn't reflect the common US citizen's view - there is simply no animosity towards Germans or Europeans in general. The German state and EU super-state (in our minds) is totally divorced from our consideration of the common German/EU people. This whole 'Germans/Europeans freezing to death this winter' produces a kind of cognitive dissonance-induced hypnotic state in Americans, like we're totally baffled how this could ever be happening. We simply blink it out of existence. But enough of my rant:
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1566100304609050624
Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom
🧵Thread 🧵
How to end the war in Ukraine.
Germany can end the war in Ukraine single-handedly. The US cannot afford a proxy war with Russia if Germany backs out of sanctions against Russia. Let’s be honest: Russia is not a threat to Germany. It wants good relations with Europe. 11:26 AM · Sep 3, 2022·Twitter for iPhoneThe US is not a friend of Germany. In fact they don’t like Germany for having snubbed them in the Iraq war which was based on US lies and deception. That was one of my proudest moments being German, Gerhard Schröder telling the Yankees to fuck off. He did the right thing.
The US considers Germany an economic threat and a geopolitical nuisance. It would like to turn the EU powerhouse into a failure and gain control by putting Germany in a position of dependence, like having to buy oil and gas from the US, at a premium, instead of cheap from Russia.
The US strategy in Ukraine is to kill 2 birds with one stone. Unbalance Russia and Germany, hoping for regime change in Russia to get cheap access to its vast reserves of fossil fuels and dictate the future of Europe to Berlin after collapsing the German economy. It’s so obvious.
Germany is currently committing economic suicide by supporting the US proxy war in Ukraine. And why? Because Russia may attack Germany one day? Nonsense. Russia wants strategic security and not have NATO controlling Ukraine 300 miles from Moscow. EU leaders knew this all along.
This war in Ukraine is a war the US wanted and actively provoked. That’s why it funded the Maidan coup in 2014 and installed a puppet regime in Ukraine. The US knew that Russia will not allow a NATO base in Ukraine and that it is crossing a red line by inviting Ukraine into NATO.
Germany has a responsibility to keep itself and the EU safe. The best way to achieve that is to make a compromise with Russia. A neutral Ukraine with the primarily Russian ethnic areas deciding their own future. Don’t play the US game. Don’t ruin Europe for another US adventure.
After that the relationship with the US, UK, Poland and the Baltic states may sour but that’s OK. They will get over it. Ukraine will get over it. Instead of wasting money on weapons let’s help Ukraine in a big way by building new modern infrastructure. We are great at that.
It’s not too late for Germany to turn this around. Christmas is coming and I would like Ukrainians to have peace, Russians to have security, Europeans to enjoy warmth in front of the Christmas tree and for American citizens to have a look at how to fix their rotten Government 🕊
I agree with everything but one of the last statements: "It's not too late for Germany to turn this around". Nice, fluffy-goodness thoughts, but no amount of determined heroics can make a moving aircraft carrier do a 180° turn on a dime. Firing the old captain and replacing them - no matter how many times - is not going to magically solve the problem.
I have no need of the Oracle of Delphi - I reach my own conclusions. It gets tedious reading hare-brained polemics from trainee trolls targeting others.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 4 2022 16:41 utc | 51
Ha Ha! Great line. Although tending to avoid videos for news, I do regularly put on the Duran, though sometimes they are just too long for my taste. Generally they have a good non-mainstream perspective and at least with the SMO have generally been correct. Where I have a niggle with them both is that they won't get into peering behind the curtain. This is probably a wise decision but I am tired of hearing Alexander M saying 'I really don't understand why they are doing X or Y, it's insane' when he knows perfectly well that darker purposes are at work and although they might be psycho or socio paths, they are not stupid or crazy.
I was just listening to one of their's today, a Q & A following the post Benito Biden speech and he let slip that 'about 200 bourgeois oligarchs are controlling most of what happens these days and appear to be winning.' I don't know about that, but his expression of it, even in a throwaway remark, belies his many professions of amazement on the youtube monetized broadcasts.
But that's okay. Probably better not to talk about that stuff anyway without hard, confirmable facts of which there never are any.
Also, it seems to be a law of nature that, try as we might, we never really know what's going on. Scientists valiantly try to make this not so but the deeper the delve and more profoundly they peer, the more what they don't know arises and the less they think they know turns out to be what they thought.
And so it goes...
You have to get the telegram desktop app... https://desktop.telegram.org/Cheers
Posted by: Craig | Sep 4 2022 18:15 utc | 75
Not helpful. You still have to provide a cell phone number to get the security token to activate the Telegram desktop app. I am not doing that to provide too much information to an ex-pat Russian living in Qatar.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 4 2022 18:28 utc | 81
headlines
Sep 16, 2021: Soaring energy prices in Europe are forcing U.K. factories to shut down
Mar 9, 2022: European Industry Starts Shutting Down as Energy Prices Soar
Jun 13, 2022: Some European Factories, Long Dependent on Cheap Russian Energy, Are Shutting Down.
Jun 29, 2022: European manufacturing sector crumbling due to high electricity and natural gas prices
Sep 4, 2022: Metal Plants Feeding Europe’s Factories Face an Existential Crisis
also
Sep 4, 2022: Ukraine Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal has met with Federal Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Berlin. Shmyhal: "The EU should completely abandon energy resources from the aggressor country as soon as possible. There is a decision on the embargo on Russian coal and oil, but an embargo on gas is also needed. " . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 4 2022 18:35 utc | 82
Igor Strelkov seems to have changed his attitude on the Kherson battle. Until today he had been confidently forecasting a Russian defensive victory. But his latest Telegram comments do not bode favorably for Russia. At least that's my reading of his most recent statements.
Can anyone shed light on Strelkov's remarks? Is he overly prone toward negativity or are his battle assessments on the mark?
Posted by: GW | Sep 4 2022 18:37 utc | 83
To those dissing the two Alexs. Why do u watch their channel if you disagree with them?
Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 4 2022 18:42 utc | 84
@Craig - I've done that and installed the latest version on a Win10 desktop. There is supposed to be an option, that one has to enable, in "settings", "Language", that allows me to check a box for "auto-translate" and it's just not there. (First, I have to get a passcode using the cell phone, then key it in on the desktop) It's a pain in the ass.
Apologies for turning MoA into a Telegram helpdesk, but perhaps others are having the same difficulty.
Posted by: chunga | Sep 4 2022 18:44 utc | 85
If you don't want to give telegram your real phone # get a free one from google voice or textnow and use that to sign up
Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 4 2022 18:52 utc | 86
Oriental Voice @ 67
Zappa identified your train of thought perfectly almost 60years ago-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svdrAHn_LGo
I am confident many believe what you believe and some of them are in the halls of power. US economy cannot exist without Europe and cannot exist without Russia. No one is going to admit this until the damage is in the rearview mirror. Because it can't happen here.
Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 4 2022 18:54 utc | 87
My understanding was that there were six gas compressors attached to Nordstream 1. One is in Canada, another in Germany and the other has failed in place. If this is so, where are the other three? Or is it that Nordstream 1 is two pipelines, and Gazprom has diverted gas from it somewhere else?There is only 1 still in operation shortly after re-pressurizing after the yearly early august maintenance (not to be confused with this one). There is a second one (used initially to help re-pressurize after that window), but it was taken offline as it's ~25k hour operation timeline without maintenance was reached and GP shut it down to say with-in terms of warranty and maintenance contract with Siemens. While arguably technically operable, for contract and safety reasons it's not, till it gets it's due maintenance. Which of course can't be carried out due to sanctions mess, and playing risky games with this type of equipment is not in anyone's interest.
As for the full accounting as understand things there were 6, 5 active and 1 backup, 1 was out for repairs in ca when things kicked off (the one that most recently came back to Germany) and the backup was already in use. 1 was shipped off for maintenance in late spring thinking it would indeed get repaired and returned but still sits in CA, 1 went total-fubar in june and is a loss, 1 sits disconnected in ru and ready to be shipped for repairs\maintenance. 2 are still connected, but only one being used, and that final one is the one with the oil leak issue now presumably being worked on. It's unclear what level of work is needed to repair that issue (ie can it be done onsite or not?).
Posted by: knighthawk | Sep 4 2022 18:58 utc | 88
Roger | Sep 4 2022 18:25 utc | 322
"Democracy" has become a dangerous buzzword that masks what the ruling class has been doing in the name of "the people" and will hopefully be relegated to the dustbin of history before the century is out.
I much prefer an alliance of the landed aristocracy, bourgeois and honest working class to the bolshevik and fascist cadres that masquarade under the banner of "democracy" like they did under "communism" in early twentieth century Russia.
I much prefer the Glorious Revolution to the French Revolution. That latter lasted less than a generation, devolved into empire and was nothing more than a precursor to the bolsheviks a century later.
I much prefer institutions in which power is divided amongst various factions so that no one faction can gain supremacy rather than a "unitary state" like Ukraine where the institutions of government are used to persecute and eliminate the existing Russian culture. Or where power is divided between corporations and the government under the guise of "representing the people" as happened in fascist Italy.
"Democracy" is the scourge of the common man, a word used by the powerful to commit unspeakable evil in the name of the powerless. The mob gathers, shouts "democracy!" and cheers its own demise. The only way to preserve the spirit of "democracy" is to restrict the power of the mob.
Posted by: marc | Sep 4 2022 19:03 utc | 89
Posted by: GW | Sep 4 2022 18:37 utc | 83
Strelkov’s latest on Kherson specifically :
The outcome of the battle depends on many factors, but it still seems to me that for the time being (this time) the RF Armed Forces will have enough strength to overcome the crisis and stabilize the front line without serious "de-escalations". Although this result, alas, is not guaranteed
So he is still confident, I think.
Posted by: NightTripper | Sep 4 2022 19:07 utc | 90
I don't totally disbelieve the Russian account with the turbines.I do however regocnise the massive propaganda vivtory that would come with the opening of NS2. Pressure to do so will increase as the reserve dwindles. I blame Germany for not having the expertise on hand to maintain the thing locally.
Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 19:07 utc | 91
chunga | Sep 4 2022 18:44 utc | 85
I went thru the same frustration Chunga ...
apparently one must install an app for T'gram on your cell. Well, my cell is an Apple... Apple will not permit a T'gram app!
Posted by: crone | Sep 4 2022 19:08 utc | 92
NS2 is sitting there waiting to delivery beaucoup cheap NG. Most interesting iddn‘t ?
Posted by: Exile | Sep 4 2022 17:59 utc | 69
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Is it though, been reading for weeks, maybe even months now that RU has started allocating resources that were set to deliver via NS2, away from NS2 to the extent that it could. Leading the reader to think even if everything magically changed and it was fired up come spring RU could only deliver about 1/2 of what what it was originally prepared too. That said 1/2 is still much better then nothing. I can't speak to if that is actually happening internally though it would make sense, only that press outlets including in Russia outlets have mentioned decisions have been made to reallocate.
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If you don't want to give telegram your real phone # get a free one from google voice or textnow and use that to sign up
Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 4 2022 18:52 utc | 86
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Don't waste your time, telegram signup blocks 99% of those from being used including google#'s now, tried that, and dozen other 'temp #\texts' sites and numbers, none worked, gave up, now just add /s/ before username and just use browser.
Posted by: knighthawk | Sep 4 2022 19:11 utc | 93
Lets end the OT telegram topic and ask commenters that want to provide links to Telegram not to do so....at this time because not all on it and lots of roadblocks.
Copy and paste quotes as I and others do from other sources that are not available to all/MoA constraints so that support your/their point you are trying to share
Please and thank you
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 4 2022 19:17 utc | 94
"Well, my cell is an Apple... Apple will not permit a T'gram app!"
And when I select "auto-translate" on Lovey's android phone I get the message from Telegram...."google may have control over translation"...I kid you not.
Posted by: chunga | Sep 4 2022 19:17 utc | 95
@HERMIUS | Sep 4 2022 18:42 utc | 84
To those dissing the two Alexs. Why do u watch their channel if you disagree with them?The two Alexes are honest, intelligent analysts that connect a lot of factual dots. That is not popular among certain people, so therefore the dissing.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2022 19:19 utc | 96
Ukronazis have taken over Vysokopolye and captured more than 50 Russian respectivly LDNPR soldiers.
What does mean FAILING of counteroffensive?
Seems like this is a pure "matter of view".
The longer this SMO takes, the greater the risk too lose more terrritory to Ukronazinato
Moreover it will be uncertain that China and India will still support Russia.
Russia should not waste time because the future is uncertain but the end is always near
Posted by: Chessmaster | Sep 4 2022 19:20 utc | 97
Posted by: PavewayIV | Sep 4 2022 18:25 utc | 79
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Interesting had not seen that thread, thanks. KDC nailed most of it but the last part where I agree with your comments, significant damage has already been done and can't be repaired quickly, or by simply changing out clowns in the circus, though it would be a start.
Posted by: knighthawk | Sep 4 2022 19:29 utc | 98
@knighthawk #94, interesting... used to be able to do that, guess they cracked down. I wonder how they can tell. Sorry for suggesting something that didn't work!
Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 4 2022 19:30 utc | 99
@ my 82
So Russia and Ukraine are in agreement, Russia gas should be unavailable to Europe even as factories are being shut down.
Is this agreement the start of something big? . .probably not. Ukraine also wants to gain EU entrance.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 4 2022 19:31 utc | 100
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Report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation on the territory of Ukraine as of September 4, 2022
🔻The Kiev regime continues unsuccessful attempts to gain a foothold in certain areas in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction. Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces, missile troops and artillery strike at units and reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
▪️During the day of hostilities in this direction, the enemy lost 11 tanks, 17 infantry fighting vehicles, including four US-made Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, 10 other armored combat vehicles, 5 pickup trucks with heavy machine guns and more than 150 military personnel.
▪️In the area of the village of ROMANOVKA, Mykolaiv region, fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force.
▪️High-precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed the points of temporary deployment of units of the 80th Airborne Assault Brigade and an ammunition depot near the settlement of KRAMATORSK, Donetsk People's Republic. More than 120 Ukrainian servicemen and 11 units of armored and special vehicles were liquidated.
▪️As a result of concentrated fire strikes on the positions of units of the 30th mechanized and 95th air assault brigades in the areas of the settlements of GUSAROVKA, Kharkiv region and ADAMOVKA, Donetsk People's Republic, 110 militants were liquidated. The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is understaffing these formations at the expense of mobilized citizens from the western and central regions of Ukraine.
▪️In the area of the settlement of KURAKHOVO of the Donetsk People's Republic, as a result of a strike by high-precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces at two points of deployment of foreign mercenaries, up to 50 foreign militants were eliminated.
▪️The strikes by operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery on military facilities on the territory of Ukraine continue.
During the day, four command posts were hit, including: the headquarters of the nationalist formation "Kraken" in the KHARKOV region, the 66th mechanized brigade in the ELIZAVETOVKA region of the Donetsk People's Republic, the 65th mechanized brigade in the NIKOLSKY region of the Zaporozhye region, as well as 57 artillery units, manpower and military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 189 districts.
Three ammunition depots were destroyed in the areas of the settlements SEVERSK of the Donetsk People's Republic, NIKOLSKOE and MALINOVKA, Zaporozhye region.
▪️Russian air defense systems shot down five unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of the settlements of BALAKLEYA, PERSHOTRAVNEVE of the Kharkiv region, ZAVITNE BAZHANNYA, IVANOVKA and ZELENY GAY in the Donetsk People's Republic.
▪️Three US-made HARM anti-radar missiles were intercepted in the area of the settlement NOVAYA KAKHOVKA, Kherson region, as well as seven shells of multiple launch rocket systems in the area of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, including four - "HIMARS" and three - "Alder".
🔻In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 287 aircraft, 151 helicopters, 1872 unmanned aerial vehicles, 372 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4804 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 824 combat vehicles of multiple launch rocket systems, 3367 field artillery guns and mortars, and also 5276 units of special military vehicles.
🔻Despite the presence of representatives of the IAEA at the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, the Kyiv regime continues provocations in order to create a threat of a man-made disaster.
▪️On September 3, eight unmanned aerial vehicles with suspended ammunition were used to strike at the territory of the nuclear power plant.
The Ukrainian drones approaching the station were blocked by Russian electronic warfare equipment, after which the grenades were forcibly dropped in deserted places at a distance of more than one and a half kilometers from the station's security perimeter.
Posted by: Summary | Sep 4 2022 13:06 utc | 1