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September 3, 2022
The Ukrainian ‘Counteroffensive’ Was Destined To Fail – Today It Did So

On August 24 the British prime minister Boris Johnson visited Kiev:

In comments made next to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the Mariyinsky Palace, Johnson said Ukraine “can and will win this war.”

Johnson's visit was the start signal for the long announced Ukrainian 'counteroffensive' towards Kherson.

In early April Johnson had called on and visited Kiev to stop well developed peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine:

“Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”

The news highlights the impact of former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s efforts to stop negotiations, as journalist Branko Marcetic noted on Twitter. The decision to scuttle the deal coincided with Johnson’s April visit to Kyiv, during which he reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to break off talks with Russia for two key reasons: Putin cannot be negotiated with, and the West isn’t ready for the war to end.

Over the last months Britain has trained several thousands of Ukrainian troops and their officers. Together with Ukrainian special forces Britain's MI-6 secret service planned a special operation for Ukraine to regain control over the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant on the south side of the Kakhovka Dnieper reservoir. This was designed to coincide with a visit of IAEA inspectors, long held up by Ukraine, to visit the ZNPP.

The Kherson offensive started on August 30 on five axes. It was destined to fail. Three of these attempts to gain ground held by Russian troops failed. One axis was stopped after taking a few small villages of no strategic value. The only 'successful' attack was across the Inhulet river near Andriivka in the direction of the dam and river crossing that closes off the Kakhovka Dnieper reservoir.


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The plan was crazy to begin with. The whole area is flat open steppe. The troops would have had to created a 50 kilometer (30 miles) long corridor through open hostile land. The towns on the way are mostly one or two street agricultural mini-villages with one story homes that offer little protection. The Ukrainian forces have no air defense or air attack capability to cover advancing troops. Its artillery capabilities are a tenth of what the Russian military can provide in the area. It was obvious from the beginning that this was a suicide mission.

Reportedly the Ukrainian military command was against this mission. But the Ukrainian political leadership, the Zelenski regime, ordered it to proceed. It was under political pressure from its foreign supporters to show at least some success.

The attack was launched on August 30. The Ukrainian military created three river crossings over the Inhulet near Andriivka. This already smelled bad. Why didn't the Russian airforce or artillery immediately destroy those crossings?

It was obvious that this was a trap.

In a CNN piece, co-written by the notorious 'intelligence' stenographer Natasha Bertrand, the U.S. military distanced itself from the upcoming catastrophe:

In the buildup to the current Ukrainian counteroffensive, the US urged Kyiv to keep the operation limited in both its objectives and its geography to avoid getting overextended and bogged down on multiple fronts, multiple US and western officials and Ukrainian sources tell CNN.

Those discussions involved engaging in "war-gaming" with Kyiv, the sources said — analytical exercises that were intended to help the Ukrainian forces understand what force levels they would need to muster to be successful in different scenarios.

The Ukrainians were initially considering a broader counteroffensive, but narrowed their mission to the south, in the Kherson region, in recent weeks, US and Ukrainian officials said.

Officials say they believe there is now increased parity between the Ukrainian and Russian militaries. But western officials have been hesitant to label the nascent Ukrainian operation — which appeared to begin on Monday in the southern province of Kherson — a true "counteroffensive."

How successful Ukraine is likely to be in regaining lost territory remains an open question, sources familiar with the latest intelligence tell CNN.

For three days the Ukrainian military sent battalion after battalion into the salient. These were good professional troops trained by Britain. They were equipped with modernized Polish T-72 tanks and up-armored Dutch Infantry Fighting Vehicles (YPR-765 IFV). But while these force were able to create a deeper salient it would soon become their grave.

As I wrote on September 1.

The Ukrainian Kherson offensive continues despite extremely heavy losses. The Rybar map shows one of the axes where the Ukrainian army still tries to press forward after having been rooted from Bruskyns'ke.


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The area is flat open steppe with no coverage for troops to hide. The Russian side is by far superior in artillery and has air supremacy. Whoever ordered the Ukrainians to press this suicidal campaign under these circumstance is guilty of murder and should go to prison for the rest of his life.

On September 1, the very day the IAEA delegation was to arrive, the Ukrainian side made a daring attack to seize the ZNPP. But the Russian side had been warned. The two waves of Ukrainian special forces, also trained by Britain, were killed while crossing the reservoir or were running into ambushes as soon as they had landed. They ended up dead. The IAEA inspection proceeded as planned.

Jeffrey Kaye @jeff_kaye – 21:18 UTC · Sep 2, 2022

UN Secretary General's spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said on Thursday:
"We are glad that the Russian Federation did all to keep our inspectors safe"!
I expect mainstream press to not report this.
Link to Interfax report

On the third day of the offensive the bridges across the Inhulet river where still intact. The Russian tactic was obvious. A scheme that it had used previously on the Karkiv front:

Will Schryver @imetatronink – 22:28 UTC · Sep 2, 2022

The truth of the Kherson "offensive" is written on the maps for all to see: AFU attacks; Ru hits 'em hard, then pulls back; AFU advances; Ru hits 'em again, but pulls back more; AFU adds forces to salient; Ru flanks them in force & cuts off their rear; trap closed; turkey shoot.

Late yesterday the Russian air force made its first real showing in this 'counteroffensive' affair. It attacked Ukrainian forces at the front of the salient in the tiny village of Bezimene with some 24 'dumb' 500 kilogram bombs. This ended the existence of the village and of all Ukrainian forces in it.

The Russian airforce then proceeded to destroy all river crossings over the Inhulet.

The Ukrainian forces are trapped:


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They have one choice. Give up, wave white flags or die.

Here is the current Rybar overview of the larger Kherson region. All Ukrainian attempts in this 'counteroffensive' have failed to make any significant progress.


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The number of Ukrainian casualties are huge. Reports from Odessa, Nikolaev and Kryvy Rih speak of thousands of wounded. Many more have died. Hundreds of Ukrainian tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were destroyed or captured by Russian troops.

The 128th mountain assault brigade from the Ukrainian Transcarpatia region was involved in the general attack and got destroyed. (Why use 'mountain assault' specialists in the open steppe?) The governor of the region reportedly ordered a day of mourning.

The Russian side has now launched some attacks of its own to gain areas and towns the Ukrainians had held for some time. The Ukrainians are scrambling to mobilize local reserves in Nikolaev to counter these moves.

In 'western' media, complicit with the Zelenski regime, neither the bloody defeat of the 'counteroffensive' in Kherson nor the attempted raid on the ZNPP ever happened.

The only mention of it I found in the New York Times is this:

In a statement, the [Russian defense] ministry claimed that Russian forces had intercepted two groups of Ukrainian commandos, up to 60 troops combined, who crossed the Dnipro River in boats to sabotage or seize the plant.

In total the 'counterattack' on Kherson was a complete failure that predictably ended up destroying Ukraine's main military reserves and a major part of the stock of heavy vehicles it had received from the 'west'.

The ZNPP, which was the main 'public relation' target of the whole affair, is still in Russian hands and now secured by the presence of a permanent IAEA delegation.

bruno bertez @BrunoBertez – 7:27 UTC · 3 Sep 2022

"The IAEA is there to stay for as long as it is needed. We are not leaving.” [IAEA director] Grossi said. “For those who may have intentions on the plant, knowing that international inspectors are there, witnessing and informing immediately what is happening, has an important stabilising effect.”

Heads in Kiev should and will likely roll over this. But that is not enough. Those in London who came up with this lunatic idea should be removed from their positions.

Meanwhile U.S. President Joe Biden has asked for $13.7 billion in additional money for Ukraine.

He wants to fight Russia down to the very last Ukrainian. A fight Russia does not want but is assured to win.

Can Biden be held to account for this?

Comments

An interview with Jacques Baud: https://www.thepostil.com/our-latest-interview-with-jacques-baud/
He is not always correct on recent developments, but he is always interesting.
He is a former colonel of the Swiss General Staff, ex-member of Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist Ukraine. He has a new book out, Opération Z (in French)
“By hiding many aspects of this conflict, the Western media has presented us with a caricatural and artificial image of the situation, which has resulted in the polarization of minds. This has led to a widespread mindset that makes any attempt to negotiate virtually impossible.
“The one-sided and biased representation provided by mainstream media is not intended to help us solve the problem, but to promote hatred of Russia….
“The Russian concept of “correlation of forces,” takes into account many more factors and is more holistic than the Western approach. That is why the Russians are winning.”

Posted by: Susan | Sep 3 2022 22:56 utc | 201

Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Sep 3 2022 22:55 utc | 201
This is precisely the kind of comment that b has specifically insisted that people stop posting. Cut it out!
There is too much crap on this site.

Posted by: Susan | Sep 3 2022 22:59 utc | 202

crone | Sep 3 2022 22:54 utc | 199
Madness appears to be the name of the western game crone. That old saying “those who the gods wish to destroy”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 23:01 utc | 203

The comments leading to Helmuth’s are just as juvenile and against the site rules.
Stop!!!

Posted by: Susan | Sep 3 2022 23:01 utc | 204

@Peter AU1 #191,

DPR and LPR can act autonomously. We saw that with the attempted crossing of the Donets river some time back.
Because it wasn’t Russia, the crossing was a tactical defeat of Donbas forces.

You really ought to stop posting such rubbish. This is a reference to Russia’s failed Bilohorivka crossing – probably multiple units involved and maybe some LPR but that was primarily an operation of Russian regular forces including 35th motor rifle which has fared poorly throughout the conflict.

Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 3 2022 23:04 utc | 205

For whatever it is worth – The Extermination Zone.
https://vk.com/@739151204-the-extermination-zone

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 23:05 utc | 206

Yenwoda | Sep 3 2022 23:04 utc | 207
Keep posting troll. Think of your family and income. Do not think about what will happen to those who push so much evil. It is very much an R rated ending. Like the killing fields in Ukraine. Look at some of those videos and understand what your ending will be.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 23:10 utc | 207

you are mentally unstable
Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Sep 3 2022 22:55 utc | 201
Cheers usurper.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 23:13 utc | 208

@Peter AU1 #209, sure, I’ll keep posting. I stay within the rules and while I don’t agree with b on much, I appreciate his tolerance for dissenting views. Unlike you I don’t toss around impotent threats or make a constant sleazy embarrassment of myself. You’re Father Jack Hackett with somewhat less of a way with words.

Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 3 2022 23:24 utc | 209

Better to just ignore all the personal insult BS and just get back on topic

Posted by: Jimmy | Sep 3 2022 23:30 utc | 210

Instead of sending more weapons into Ukraine, it might be simpler and cheaper to just destroy it at home, and save on the shipping.

Posted by: George Smith | Sep 3 2022 23:30 utc | 211

@Bemildred
I read a long form piece a few years ago about how Churchill was notorious for accumulating bad debts and welching on his payments, abusing his political power as cover as much as he could manage. He died a pauper and would have been otherwise buried anonymously if not
for his name. The man didn’t nearly stack up to the myth.
Posted by: nwwoods | Sep 3 2022 21:04 utc | 179
Yes, he is over-rated as a writer too. The analogy with BoJo works very well in many ways. I’ve read Churchill’s history (his-story) of WWII, which reminded me of other WWII histories: lots of statistics. His was filled with self-praise, mainly. The novels written by the GI-Bill writers after WWII were a lot more illuminating for me.
At least he understood the importance of logistics, which now seems to have been forgotten too, it’s all about wonder-weapons and game-changers.
And on the other hand when I read about what really happened in his adventures I see the same kind of LARP-ing fake politicians we have here.
What I see is the british government got itself stomped flat twice in two world wars, and was deeply implicated in causing both, and lost its empire as a consquence. The USA has mostly relied on less industrial wars, so it took longer, but seems to have done the same thing.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 3 2022 23:32 utc | 212

Susan | Sep 3 2022 22:59 utc | 204
The whisky bar Susan. The discussion in the cafes of Europe prior to WWII is interesting. b’s bar is somewhat similar.
The extermination of Anglo proxies in Ukraine moves this past the abstract. I watch as the pied piper leads my children away. Literally.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 23:34 utc | 213

@ Peter AU1 with the info about biolabs….thanks
I hate to see you taken over by the trolls Peter. Please ignore them and continue to comment. If they win, you and we lose.
Think about what each comment says about the writer, not about you which they know nothing or little.
Peace is coming for us all, one way or another….grin

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2022 23:34 utc | 214

Germany has robbed all other EU countries for decades
Posted by: Tigger | Sep 3 2022 16:54 utc | 119
Nonsense!
The Germans are harder working with lower standard of living than some other European countries that cannot similarly be described.
As of now other (mostly European) countries owe Germany about 1.3 Trillion Euros via Target2 balances, a debt that cannot be collected in any fashion whatsoever.
These 1.3 trillion Euros measure the tangible goods and services that these people have obtained from Germany and in return for which they have created nothing but Target2 liabilities.
This might just very well be the worst conundrum Germany is faced with and is proof of how ill conceived the European construct really is.
FYI I am not German.

Posted by: bottle | Sep 3 2022 23:37 utc | 215

@Disgusted European #70:

These 80 % cannot see the truth no matter what. The amount of media induced trance is unbelievable. Whatever does not fit the propaganda narrative they have been fed, they blame it to be lies and they get very angry if you try to explain clamly, as for this reason, i dont even try anymore, they are so totally brainwashed that they would rather beat you up than listen to reason. It’s sad , really.

I suggest that you continue to explain things. There’s just no other way out of this situation⁠—you’ll still have to explain things in the future, only you’ll have to do it in much worse circumstances. Focus on topics that are less “sensitive”, that you have researched and know well, show articles from MSM that contradict their own narratives, etc. Focus on a limited amount of topics, but become really good at making your case, then repeat your arguments again and again.

Posted by: S | Sep 3 2022 23:39 utc | 216

Both US and UK assumed Russia would agree that US should make all the rules:
“Conservative MP Dominic Grieve…said: “After the heady days of post-Cold War and
the belief that we were moving the Russians into a rules-based international system,
we seem to be going very rapidly in the opposite direction.”…12/17/2016, “Cambridge spy seminars hit by whispers of Russian links as three intelligence experts resign,” UK Telegraph…https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/16/intelligence-experts-cut-ties-cambridge-spy-seminars-amid-claims/

Posted by: susan mullen | Sep 3 2022 23:41 utc | 217

anti-spiegel.ru
has a report from their research into Ukraine bio lab dirty work.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 3 2022 23:52 utc | 218

psychohistorian | Sep 3 2022 23:34 utc | 217
Never mind the trolls. They want to attack me they move into the extermination zone. That is until b zaps me.
I am fucking tired psycho. I remember watching on television Vietnamese cumming to Australia in small boats. My children were small and playing around my feet. Those leaving Vietnam were in reality traitors to there nation. They served the french, then the Japanese, then the french, then the Americans.
There will be death and destruction in the so called west but hopefully the visions of Russia and China can be implemented.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 23:54 utc | 219

Posted by: OttoE | Sep 3 2022 18:47 utc
The bioweapons threat is much greater than the nuclear one, because bioweapons are less effectively controlled. It’s enough if one guy smuggles the thing out of a lab and a few do some travel to spread it around. The result equals many nukes.
The proof is in the Covid Pudding.

Posted by: bottle | Sep 3 2022 23:56 utc | 220

anti-spiegel.ru has a report on their extensive research into Ukraine bio lab dirty work.
Interview about the US bio-labs in Ukraine
“The Russian Ministry of Defense has been releasing documents on US bioweapons programs in Ukraine since the beginning of the Russian military operation, a chronology of the releases can be found at the end of this article.”

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 3 2022 23:56 utc | 221

Germany has robbed all other EU countries for decades
Posted by: Tigger | Sep 3 2022 16:54 utc | 119
Nonsense!
The Germans are harder working with lower standard of living than some other European countries that cannot similarly be described.

Just to emphasize. “Germany” is not automatically average Hans, Werner and Frauke. At the time the Euro was introduced, Germany was in deep recession, “the sick man of Europe”. Then the so-called Hartz reforms were introduced, bringing heavy cuts to social, medical, pension and labor systems. On 1 January, 2005, the largest low-paying economy in Europe was created, but for still offering a better social net (especially Kindergeld and paid sick leave) than other countries of the now even larger EU, this attracted lots of people to do the cheap labor for which the profiteers of the reforms — German DAX companies — now had to pay even less.
Did it help German competitiveness? Yes. Did that outcompete Germany’s biggest inner-EU competitors, Great Britain, France, Italy and Spain? Yes.
Did all that, in return, yield much more power to Berlin as the (by now) largest net contributor to the EU? Hell yeah!

This might just very well be the worst conundrum Germany is faced with and is proof of how ill conceived the European construct really is.
Posted by: bottle | Sep 3 2022 23:37 utc | 218

True. But… oh, the irony! 😉

Posted by: Nervous German | Sep 4 2022 0:04 utc | 222

Yenwoda | Sep 3 2022 23:04 utc | 207
I have no need to make impotent threats. You post Anglo propaganda. Do you have any understanding of what will happen to you when this all collapses?
It wont be me. It will be all those you have attempted to deceive. Your physical surviability rating has a poor outlook. You will go the way of those Ukrainians have marched into the Russian extermination zone.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2022 0:05 utc | 223

Uncle t. No link

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2022 0:09 utc | 224

bottle #218

This might just very well be the worst conundrum Germany is faced with and is proof of how ill conceived the European construct really is.

The double tragedy for Germany is that the debt is combined with the willful destruction of its highly developed industries that are energy intensive. Their masochism in pursuit of ideological purity requires deep therapy and serious introspection. They have been colonised yet again by a mass ideology. The fact that that ideology is common and rampant throughout the west is no excuse for their supine obedience to the oligarchy and its manipulative machine.
Gone are the days when there was a free and independent press in Europe. IMO there is a dire need for legislation to break up press gangs (intended) and restore independent reporting outside of moralising/ideological cancel culture. This needs to be an intensive effort to enable freedom of the press by savagely constraining the globalisation of the press. Tricky business but the public mind is captured by ideological mendacity.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 4 2022 0:09 utc | 225

Posted by: Nervous German | Sep 4 2022 0:04 utc | 225
I had to look up Target-2 and it’s horrifying. It looks like another financial house of cards (to be fair to the EU, the same can be said of pretty much every Western country). I expect the first serious attempts to revert to native currencies will begin in the financial crisis the current recession will spawn.

Posted by: ZX | Sep 4 2022 0:16 utc | 227

biowaffen. The Yank wonder weapon. Rus is now shoving this waffen back down the Americans throats. Biden and his satanic background lighting. Russia will destroy US just as it destroyed Nazi Germany.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2022 0:20 utc | 228

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 4 2022 0:09 utc | 228
Truth spoken, Uncle T., and still the zombified public’s discussions revolve about how to save energy with lower room temperatures and less outdoor illumination at night. Which just won’t cut it for some key heavy industries: ArcelorMittal shuts its smelters in Hamburg and Bremen (use Google translate)… which would also be key for Rheinmetall and other NATO gear makers.
Temporarily, they say, as in Brandon’s temporary inflation.

Posted by: Nervous German | Sep 4 2022 0:21 utc | 229

Even with the losses from this offensive, ukraine appears, due to full mobilisation, to be able to field, numerically, more forces than the limited russian and militia number used for this smo. that’s what makes the smo so impressive as it moves incrementally forward.

Posted by: Oh | Sep 4 2022 0:35 utc | 230

Pachinko @4:
“What is the plan? Why is Ukraine committing suicide like this?”
Is there anything unexpected here? It’s the usual kind of Pentagon plan (see all past US adventures since Vietnam) and “Ukraine” is not committing suicide as it has no agency. It should be more than obvious from the catastrophic results that every “Ukrainian” gesture is being directly commanded and controlled by the US and England. Such a Keystone-cops type mass suicide would not be possible if any orders were ever issued by Ukrainians — even by retardnazis.

Posted by: Piero Colombo | Sep 4 2022 0:36 utc | 231

Peter AU1 #227
apologies but i simply cannot get a post through that includes the
URL = anti-spiegel.ru
just post the above in your browser and then use translate and look for the report with that heading…. Interview etc.
Every time i post an antispiegel.ru link of any kind it gets goblined between here and MoA :/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 4 2022 0:38 utc | 232

Have posted the machine translated latest Rus mod briefing on US bio weapons here for any interested.
https://vk.com/@739151204-bio-weapons-briefing-september-3
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 22:08 utc | 189
Your links to vk don’t work on ipad Safari , fyi.

Posted by: RB | Sep 4 2022 0:47 utc | 233

Looks like some Czechs are not happy with their government’s support of the Ukraine and sanctions. Wonder if Czech leaders feel the same
Telesur Article Czech Protest
AP Article Czech Protest

Posted by: Obj | Sep 4 2022 0:49 utc | 234

Why not take Nikolaev (and the southern Nikolaev coastline for that matter) and by doing so clearly threaten taking the entire Ukrainian coastline?
If the Russians were prepared for Minsk III, it sounds like their objectives really don’t extend much past securing the Donbas and retaining the other areas they already hold in Kharkiv, Kherson & Zaporozhye.
Posted by: Julian | Sep 3 2022 12:23 utc | 37

Why so antsy? The way I see things is:
1) the Russians are successfully waging a war on the cheap. There is nothing that Ukraine/NATO can throw at them which they can’t handle. Why worry about timing? Going slow is to the Russian advantage, because
2) Ukraine is only one theatre of this war, and arguably the less important one. The more important theatre is Western Europe, where the economic front is located, and come winter it looks like Russia is poised to make a heavy blow.
So why raise the cost of the war before what looks like will be a huge victory on the economic front in the coming months? Just wait, Russia has a very good hand and I think it would almost be foolish to escalate on the Ukraine front right now.

Posted by: Sam | Sep 4 2022 0:49 utc | 235

Nervous German #232
Thank you and can I add the global sheet glass shortage is looming as well as the return of the toilet paper hysteria.
I assume there is serious gearing up in the Eurasian zone of replacement manufactures. Maybe that is too optimistic :/
If there is a major expansion of the key energy intensive industries within Eurasia then the German and other European manufacturers are in deep strife. They have effectively offshored their jewels with no co-investment. All they have to sell is their patents or techniques in those industries where they have serious advantage.
Meanwhile China has a huge R&D budget with 10:1 ratio of dedicated STEM graduates working on replacement strategies. Competition is not am element that the oligarchy can regulate throughout the globe. That chance has been denied due to their mendacious, ill considered game play.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 4 2022 0:50 utc | 236

Sorry about the mis-post. Here’s the link to the telesur article:
Telesur article link

Posted by: Objective Observer | Sep 4 2022 0:52 utc | 237

@231 Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2022 0:20 utc
Biowaffen indeed. Thanks for your repost of the Russian MOD briefing on bioweapons. The link is worth posting again:
Bio Weapons Briefing September 3
I agree with those here who call biowarfare a far greater threat than nuclear weapons. And of course I agree with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, who are beginning now to outline the US fingerprints and footprints all over the world with this foul means of war.
Russia leads the world in fighting the USA in the domain of biowarfare. There is much distance yet to travel. The world will follow. One day the USA will be called out and eventually faced down and forced to bend a knee to the entire world over this genocidal, satanic choice of war. Long ways to go yet, long time for this to happen, but Russia has begun the fight and will not stop.
If the USA is indeed finally fenced in and threatened with containment status by the world, I believe it will be over its biowarfare insanity. This is the greatest threat facing the global population. Just as the pandemic was the most important story. And now we see that these were related not just in importance but perhaps even in domain.
Many thanks again.
~~
ps..I’m sorry that you have to bear your own pains in the midst of such a pathetically noisy bar. There are too many threads. Too many commenters of trivial things. Those of us who know you would prefer to spend time in your company with less interruptions from noisemakers. These are precious days. I welcome every one where I can talk with you. Your efforts are not wasted. Your focus is right on target.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 4 2022 0:53 utc | 238

PeterAU1@208, thank you for the link to your vk & therein the link to the other. your work, as i’ve told you several times, is pivotal & i think your point that the biolabs were extremely important in the russians smo, as well, i believe, that the russians suspected the ukrainians working on nukes.
please, treat the trolls as you do your pain. i understand fatigue & am awed by ability to post & fight through it. i wish i could help you recover your good health & return your children…unable to do that i can simply encourage & applaud the work you do. your VK site is a valuable archive. i believe a worthy legacy. again, good on ya!

Posted by: emersonreturn | Sep 4 2022 1:05 utc | 239

The ABC, the Australian state broadcaster, reports all quiet on the Western Front. Not one story about the Ukrainian push on Moscow. Life in the MSM has return to default settings in Australia. Football.

Posted by: Paul McGrory | Sep 4 2022 1:12 utc | 240

@ Peter AU1 # 208
I too thank you for posting that Peter, thru out the read one thing kept coming to my mind, but the last two paragraphs sealed it.

“Currently, we are seeing the appearance of publications in the foreign press with a nervous reaction from Washington to extremely sensitive documents published by the Ministry of Defense. Journalists note that the US special services are taking unprecedented measures to ensure that the Russian side does not have potential witnesses close to the implementation of closed military-biological projects of the Pentagon in Ukraine.
Such concerns of the White House once again confirm the threatening nature of the US military biological program, disguised as peaceful goals, both for Russia and for the entire world community.”

What other source reason could there be for the usa and uk to desire the ukrainians to fight to the last infected man?
Hope you get to feeling better Peter, you’re a much needed resource here. Remember liquor is quicker but cannabis is friendlier.

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Sep 4 2022 1:13 utc | 241

The current UK Government, have made the UK Prime Target for a Nuclear Attack
They have managed to Piss Off Almost Everyone, including me.
I can’t compete with any of that.
They never tortured me – well a bit when I was 7 years old, when I was receiving my holy communion – the body and blood of Christ years before I was an Altar Boy.
I committed a mortal sin. I touched the host – the piece of unleven bread, placed in my mouth..I was told this by the teachers in my primary school and my mum
Do not touch the host..
But I did…
I did not pull it out and look at the state of this piece of bread, and embarras anyone at my holy communion..
But I just knew I had committed a mortal sin, not just about Jesus Christ, but also God.
I couldn’t tell anyone not even my Mum
I was going to hell for all eternity.
Still here
We have another Grandchild on the way, and I do not trust any of these mad bastards, not to try and kill us all.
It is My Responsibility, of now The Oldest Member of My Family Still Alive..
to provide a happy warm and inviting family home, as she hopefully is born, and ok…so she can meet her Mum, Dad.Two Brothers and Nana and Grandad (me)
I am very eco friendly, but I do not trust any of these people in control
So I asked my wife – is it OK if I buy another ton of coal.
She said yes do it quick.
I have got a nice wife. (love her to bits as do the grandkids)
Prepare for it. – camping stoves, lights batteries charged up and warm clothing – when the electricity gets cut off, the gas central heating won’t work either.
I do not expect it to get much better, before it gets much worse.
We will survive. I have got my snow grips somewhere
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fM923V4G6zs/maxresdefault.jpg

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Sep 4 2022 1:33 utc | 242

Grieved @242–
Agree about Bioweapons and importance of PeterAU1’s efforts.
Just read Martyanov’s blog reports to see what else is added to b’s report. I must concur with him and b that the Pentagon/UK planners are utterly pathetic and worse than useless–they are killing more Ukrainians than the Russians. Do give that a thought for a moment. I would not want to be a NATO soldier now as the commanders are pukes, junk, whatever negative expletive of choice. Russophobic rhetoric is easy to spew; fighting against the Russian Army is a very intense and close to impossible task even with outstanding commanders. Where are the proud Balts, Czechs, Poles, and Limmeys who are so brave attacking monuments?
NATO’s utter ineptitude makes Biowarfare far more likely. Employing nukes means NATO’s total annihilation whereas Bioweapons give it somewhat of a chance. And we must consider Biden’s Rant as a reflection of the degree of frustration present within the Deep State–Absolutely nothing’s going as planned. Defeat is everywhere. Biden’s “apology” today was just as bad as his rant.
IMO, it’s an excellent idea to try and closely observe what happens during the Labor Day holiday. Biden’s rant will motivate many to talk, which will hopefully have positive results. No, I don’t expect them to discuss Ukraine; I expect them to discuss the degree of distress the nation faces.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 4 2022 1:35 utc | 243

Today Dima of Military Summary Channel recognized possibility of Russia’s third Corps driving north
up the East side of the Denipr River possibly as far north as The city of Denipr.
He notes this would cut the Novorossian Front off from the rest of Ukraine, essentially putting the resisting Ukie forces in a Cauldron with Allied forces attacking their rear.
He noticed lots of activity in the Bakhmut Sieversk part of the front by attacking Allied forces,
and a pause for regrouping the forces thrusting west from Peski.
The Allies are “fixing” the Ukrainians at the Ingulets and at the Bakhmut-Sieversk front(s)
This will prevent them leaving while the Third Corps charges North up the Denipr River against light opposition.
Should this happen, we can expect a decisive collapse of the Novorossian Front.
This is possible following the massive > 10,000 losses of the Best Forces the Ukies had on the anvil of the Ingulets Attack. I won’t call it an offensive, because, at best, it was a tactical operation.
That is, I am claiming the Ingulets Operation destroyed the Ukie strategic reserve, henceforth they won’t have forces to plug holes and to make up for continuing losses, while the Allies field a 60,000 man strong Third Corps against them.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 4 2022 1:40 utc | 244

It’s wrong to criticize people for the screen name that they choose, unless it’s the name of a reprehensible character. Whether or not there’s much in common between the original Helmut von Moltke and our poster, I think he should buy allowed to choose the name.
I chose the name Lysias because I admire the original Lysias. (Actually, I originally wanted the name Aristeides, but that name was already taken).

Posted by: Lysias | Sep 4 2022 1:41 utc | 245

OT but related to coping tools
If you are into the Blues, at this time there is a 6 hour Blues program going on at my favorite “socialist” radio station KNKX.org
And now you can listen to past programs, like the Blues one, any time.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 4 2022 1:52 utc | 246

I guess I have witnessed at a distance the US bioweapons program. As a retired US Navy officer, I have been able to shop for groceries at the commissary of the Forest Glen Annex of Fort Detrick, which is located in Silver Spring MD, right outside the Beltway. Right next to that commissary is the Daniel Inouye Building, which supervises all the biolabs in Ukraine, Georgia, and other places. So I have had a chance to observe all the people who come out of that building to do shopping. And there have been quite a few of them.

Posted by: Lysias | Sep 4 2022 1:56 utc | 247

@248 plausible if 3rd is in deed 60k. Would be enlightening to see how the western media would spin it. I can just imagine the anguish of tisdall of the guardian and hack rags like the colonial telegraph as they attempt in increasing ridiculousness to adjust the narrative.

Posted by: Oh | Sep 4 2022 1:57 utc | 248

@Grieved, @PeterAU1 — thanks for providing your insights re: Bioweapons; @karlof1, thanks again for a bigger picture.
The West still controls the infowar domain not only at home, but in many international organizations which are still relevant. All of Russia’s efforts, like providing slides in English, certainly are framed as crude conspiracy theories or dismissed as propaganda by the Powers that Be. All of which will not stop the truth. A matter of time when “truth” gets added to the list of Putin’s “weaponizing” things.
The Global South will inevitably increase pressing for answers. And will continue in creating what western MSM already slammed years ago as “parallel structures” in the international arena — whether it be in finance/currency clearance, price discovery (London gold price), shipping insurance or arms control. Time is on Russia’s and China’s side.
All that isn’t too rosy for Brandon/Pelosi in the U.S. or Bojo/successor in the UK, as for pretty much all EU “leaders”, elected or not, and we can just hope they won’t escalate towards using the non-nuclear nuclear options as Russia slowly turns up the pain dial.
~ ~ ~ That said, I would like to apologize to you if you feel disturbed by my rants on back-firing Ukraine-policy, sanction collaterals and other socio-economic implications in and for the West (esp. Germany).

Posted by: Nervous German | Sep 4 2022 2:22 utc | 249

@231 peterAU1 thank you for all your great info on biolabs!

Posted by: Evie | Sep 4 2022 2:27 utc | 250

This time of the year, well if you live in London, as we do…you still go to the gigs with your bit (girlfriend/wife) amd she is dressed like she normally is…and I only took my thin jacket, still in my shorts, as if was still summer…and we were chatting away to the band till late at night….
It was very hot in there…we have missed the last bus.
No cabs no taxis, no nothing…
We suddenly got extremely worried
My wife and I have done this twice
You have absolutely no idea, how wonderful it felt, when we were invited into the back of a warm Transit van full of warm people.
You always get the waifs and strays.
my wife and i are still here

Posted by: tony_0pmoc | Sep 4 2022 2:44 utc | 251

@247 karlof1 | Sep 4 2022 1:35 utc
Yes to Martyanov, and he wrote a thing that struck me:

There are already some terrifying lesson for… NATO. This is the scale of daily losses the combined West armies will have to deal with if they decide to commit a suicide and get involved directly in Ukraine–no NATO country, especially the United States can face such level of losses in case of full-scale conventional war with Russia. The US Army (not to speak of US lapdogs in NATO) is simply not equipped for that kind of war and attrition rates.

And this is yet another reason for Russia to take its own sweet time in Ukraine. First, it owns the theater. Second, the Ukies just keep sending soldiers into the RF meat grinder, no need to go and find them. And third, something we knew but definitely bears repeating, Russia is showing the entire west, including those corrupt and degenerate “soldiers” in the Pentagon, just what would be required to enter into a real war with Russia. And the Pentagon knows in its trembling bowels that it doesn’t have what it takes.
And that lesson just keeps coming every day, and will not stop, will not slow down, will not apologize, will not conform.
And now the last remaining card of the Pentagon, the ultimate card of biowarfare, is being forensically fed into the Kremlin’s supercomputers and into the free world’s knowledge base. Maybe the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn’t exist. But Russia is mapping his DNA and proving not only that he does exist, but where he hangs out.
Russia is doxing Satan.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 4 2022 3:05 utc | 252

@255 tony_0pmoc | Sep 4 2022 2:44 utc – invited into the back of a warm Transit van full of warm people…You always get the waifs and strays.
Yes, and god love ’em, those waifs and strays.
I always recommend to friends to go to the supermarket early on Sunday morning. Because the Saturday vibe is still there. The people who just needed milk for breakfast, still a bit groggy or drowsy, still full of the night. The real people, before the church people get out at eleven or noon, who, every service person will tell you, are the rudest and angriest people to deal with. That’s life in the US, I don’t know if it’s the same in the UK.
I love your stories, by the way. These are photos shared in the trenches, waiting for the next incoming volley. Wondering who will survive. And the least we can do is share the humanity.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 4 2022 3:13 utc | 253

Saw a man with a terrible affliction on TV, he was bent over so badly that his face looked backward between his calves. He kept squatting every few steps to see where he was going as this position allowed him to see forward. Christians would see this as God’s Will, Buddhists see it as a life of suffering earned from actions in a previous life. Assuming the Buddhists correct, what sort of life would Boris Johnson expect next with all the blood and suffering of these Ukrainian soldiers directly on his hands, he is essentially a war criminal.

Posted by: Organic | Sep 4 2022 3:13 utc | 254

More about the IAEA visit is in a posting at ZH with the interesting part quoted below

He further affirmed of the IAEA team he led to the site that “six of the agency’s experts remain at the plant” to maintain “permanent presence on site… with two of our experts who will be continuing the work.”

If there are only two doing the work, what do the other four do?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 4 2022 3:17 utc | 255

More about the IAEA visit is in a posting at ZH with the interesting part quoted below
He further affirmed of the IAEA team he led to the site that “six of the agency’s experts remain at the plant” to maintain “permanent presence on site… with two of our experts who will be continuing the work.”
If there are only two doing the work, what do the other four do?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 4 2022 3:17 utc | 260
Assuming that the “two of our experts” are changing lightbulb, there are numerous method to make the other four busy. Eg. one of the experts stands on a table sticking a lightbulb in a socket, while four helpers lift corners of the table and walk in circles. And there are plenty other ways for the “lazy four” to be useful.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 4 2022 3:26 utc | 256

Passerby @185
“Please note the euro was the price Kohl had to pay for Mitterand to agree with German re-unification.”
In the other words, two powerful countries decided over the rest of Europe to create the monster called Euro. France for its own benefit, Germany for its own benefit, both cementing their power over smaller countries in Europe by being able to choose the monetary terms that best suit for their economy over the expense of others. No democracy or voters involved here.
So, you seriously think that both Germany and France created Euro just to help everyone, and let them not to gain power over the others? Maybe German population wants to believe this “re-unification” excuse, but …. please …seriously?
“Also, all euro countries used the introduction of the euro to have a quick devaluation, at the expense of Germany.”
1. No country choose to join Euro. Germany and France forced them to join, by forcefully creating the Maastrich Treaty in 1992. No referendums by people over the adaptation of Maastrich Treaty were allowed, and where it was allowed (Ireland), the referendum was retaken until the “correct” outcome (people of Ireland rejected the first referendum, followed by pressure campaign from EU, France, and Germany until the people of Ireland knew how to vote right).
2. The obligation for EU member states to adopt the euro was first outlined by article 109.1j of the Maastricht Treaty of 1992, which became binding on all new member states by the terms of their treaties of accession.
This basically means that unless you opt-out from euro, as a EU member one MUST join euro, or ERM as it is called.
There has been very rare referendums so that people were allowed to choose whether to join the euro, and whenever this has been the case, like in Sweden, the people rejected it.
3. So the idea that tax payers / voters had anything to do with the process and that there was something to gain by “quick devaluation” is yet again something sold for German population to feel good about.
The reality is that once sovereign nation locks their currency to Euro, they also participate into Target mechanism which de facto allocates proportion of European Central Bank’s (ECB) balance to be carried by the tax payers of that country, but removes any ability of those voters or their politicians to have a say on the monetary policy. So ECB can borrow as much as it wants and spread the funds wherever France and Germany choose, by leaving the Target balance for the future tax payers of each member country to carry.
So, while Germans where able to choose the optimal monetary conditions for their country by using ERM, at the same time they forced austerity for others – mainly the most defenceless new member states – which further killed any competition from those markets and opened them to be explouited by German corporations, like for example DB who took over most of Europe’s logistics just to mention one.

Posted by: Tigger | Sep 4 2022 3:28 utc | 257

I could not post here before, because b’s initial description of the conflict was like the moon I am looking at as I type, so enormous that suddenly we were all there close to what has been happening. I’ve tried several times to begin to go through the comments, and I find I can’t.
I’m old, children and grandchildren, six of each. Yet this takes me back to being three years old in New Zealand with adults around me in the small cosy sittingroom looking out at darkness. My small mind heard that far out there was war then, out there in that blackness, where the moon is now.
I’m going to start back from the last comments I see – they are warm, and I lean into their warmth even as the moon is warm, half full yet so bright it seems extremely close. I’ll go as far back as I can, climbing. Thank you b. Thank you all; do keep the children of wartime in your prayers. My youngest grandchild now is that, a three year old child of war.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 4 2022 3:36 utc | 258

There are talks in some russian tg channels lately that after referendum in the south, Russia will move to Zaporozhie city.
Meanwhile Kadyrov tweeted about him being reminded of being the longest serving governor. He said he needs a long holiday and asks everyone to understand it. Kadyrov became quite popular during the SMO, so it wouldnt be surprising if he’s to be promoted.
There are also talks about kicking out some of the liberal top officials in the Russian government this month.
September seems to bring many changes in Russia.

Posted by: Yuri | Sep 4 2022 4:04 utc | 259

The Guardian reports:
07.44
Ukraine exploiting poor leadership in Russian military, says UK
Ukrainian forces have “likely achieved a degree of tactical surprise” with the ongoing counter-offensive, the UK’s Ministry of Defence has said.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2022 11:43 utc | 21
These people truly are insane. I suppose there is some element of truth to the statement, however. The Russians might not have thought the Ukrainians and British were *that* insane and were taken by “surprise” at just how insane they are.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Sep 4 2022 4:05 utc | 260

Which tank is better – M1A1 Abrams or T-80?
@Rybar reports that Ukrainians are using German Leopard 2A4 tanks in their latest wave of attacks over the Ingulets River.
I was hoping this day would never come. Soviet T-80s in pitched battle against German Leopard 2As.
I have been planning to write a long piece on why the T-80 is a “better” tank that the American M1A1 Abrams or the German Leopard 2. Emphasis on what is meant by “better”. Maybe it is too late now, we may find out the definite answer tomorrow. Anyway, this is what I sketched up in a hurry.
Cold War main battle tanks were design for one purpose only: defeat their opposite numbers in the decisive combined arms battles of World War 3, fought between army groups of peer enemies on the open planes of Central Europe.
All other roles are secondary. Tanks are useful for many purposes but these uses should not affect their design. M1A1s have mainly been used as colonial cruisers, shooting at brown people in Third World countries. For this purpose it is nice to have air conditioning and HiFi stereos, but they do not matter in battle against a peer enemy.
Soviet tanks are notorious for storing their ammo internally and blowing up after a direct hit. Western tanks have their ammo in a compartment outside the turret. But does this really matter in a decisive battle? A mission kill is a kill. The losing side will be annihilated, even if the lucky crew survives the initial hit.
Soviet tanks a have an autoloader an a small 3-man crew. They are smaller and lighter that their opposite Western tanks. They can cross bridges that Western tanks cannot and offer a smaller target for the enemy to hit.
Both M1A1 / Leopard 2 and the T-64/T-72/T-80/T90 have compatible 120 mm or 125 mm smoothbore cannons, that carry the same punch. All have about equal armored protection. All are designed to survive a head-on hit from their own cannon from a distance.
Soviet tanks do this with 2/3 the weight and 3/4 the crew. They require half the logistics and cost half as much.
It is thus wrong to compare Soviet and Western tanks turret to turret. What matters is that capability of the tank army. A Soviet of Russian tank army can field twice the number of guns for the same amount of men and logistics. The Leopard 2 may indeed be a “better” tank than a T-80, but as part of a tank army, the T-80 offers more punch for the buck.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 4 2022 4:19 utc | 261

@ Activist Potato | Sep 4 2022 4:05 utc | 270
last paragraph.. exactly..

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2022 4:20 utc | 262

Someone hasn’t kept abreast of the Heritage Foundation’s yearly assessments of the US Military. In no way can it be considered a peer with Russia except for strategic nuclear forces, and Russian AD makes that almost ineffective. And then there’s the lack of brains within the Outlaw US Empire, currently on full display. There’s a very good reason why the emphasis on Bioweapons. The Outlaw US Empire’s military sucks.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 4 2022 4:54 utc | 263

Petri Krohn | Sep 4 2022 4:19 utc | 271
You miss the point. This is annihilation via rus mod artillery. No tank can withstand that. Sit back and enjoy the kill zone.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2022 5:05 utc | 264

Tigger [262]
You need to learn Double-Entry Bookkeeping. You fail to understand every Debit needs a Credit and than every Loan creates an Account.
Euro occurred as Ostmark converted to D-Mark at 1:1 instead of 20:1 or 40:1
Germany would have faced D-Mark Revaluation inside ERM but that would have cost trade surplus so it refused and transmitted austerity forcing UK in Black Monday out and enriching George Soros – Italy also left
Then US pressure let Greece in to Euro and Italy returned with Draghi as Central Bank Governor conspiring with Goldman Sachs the falsify Italian finances to qualify and same in Greece. Germany falsified Maastricht Criteria when Waigel revalued BUBA gold reserves and booked revaluation surplus against Debt levels to qualify at 3%

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 4 2022 5:06 utc | 265

German and French banks boosted credit in Ireland and Club Med to act in place of transfer payments and fund M&A for France and German companies to acquire businesses and that lasted until 2008 and the financial crises in Club Amex and Ireland when they were forced to socialize bank debt and ECB had to monetize National Bonds in breach of treaty

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 4 2022 5:11 utc | 266

Petri Krohn | Sep 4 2022 4:19 utc | 271
They may send any type of tank there. They won’t last long. Bombs, missiles, mines will destroy them before fighting other tanks. The good part is that thousands of nazis are being demilitarized daily
nato is making a little movie for msm because they have big problems too: the German Army is set to assist law enforcement in street patrols starting October 1.
From the photos, at least 100k upset citizens were on the streets of Prague yesterday.

Posted by: rk | Sep 4 2022 5:13 utc | 267

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 4 2022 4:19 utc | 269
The only western Tank that have compartmentalized ammo is just M1a2. Leopard 2,Leclerc have ammo inside Crew compartment. For leopard 2 it’s directly behind the driver himself so frontal hit would blow it up the same way T72.
T72s and direct successors with carousel autoloaders actually put their magazines
In theoretically the most secure place on the tank which is their center most floor. A penetrating hits on there should theoretically ended the tank mission anyways.
I think with advents of fully automatic turrets Russia can do better now.

Posted by: Lucci | Sep 4 2022 5:15 utc | 268

Petri Krohn [268]
Abrams and Leopard are essentially same tank from same procurement competition with same Rheinmetall gun
Leopard used by Turkey just as vulnerable as Abrams in Syria/Iraq
Kornet made a mess of both and US had to repatriate some Abrams hit with electromagnetic bolt which pierced armour and ignited

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 4 2022 5:17 utc | 269

ZH has another posting up that is sourced from Portfolio Armor and has the quote below that somewhat answers my question about what the IAEA team are doing

The Question of the Shelling Remains
Later in the UN briefing (which you can watch in full here), another journalist (only identified as “Edward” in transcript), after confirming that there are UN security personnel at the plant with the IAEA, asks if they can resolve the question of who is shelling the plant. The answer is “no”, as you can see below.
Spokesman: We are glad that the Russian Federation did what it needed to do to keep our, the inspectors safe. I think our security people, our drivers have done a tremendous job in getting the IAEA inspectors in. They will continue to support the mission until it ends. And it is, like with any UN mission, it is the responsibility of those in, who have power over a certain area and who are responsible for a certain area to keep UN staff safe. Edward?
Question: Just a follow-up, because you said the UN would offer the logistics and the security support to the Mission in Zaporizhzhia. Are there any UN security personnel with the Mission?
Spokesman: Yes.
Question: So, since there are people from the UN security there, before this, Ukrainian side and Russian side, they are accusing each other of shelling or sabotaging the nuclear plant. So, now UN has the first-hand… I mean, at least security personnel there so they can make a judgment now.
Spokesman: First of all, they don’t have… these are people who are there to provide close security. They are not there to do ballistics, right? They don’t have the know-how. They don’t have the technology nor do they have the mandate to do logistics, you know, ballistics assessment at looking at shells that come in, where they came in, making… that’s just not their job. Their focus is to keep our people safe, working with the authorities who are in charge in the areas in which they are located.

We will see what happens now

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 4 2022 5:22 utc | 270

uncle tungsten | Sep 3 2022 20:57 utc | 178
« So the IAEA cukoo is in the ZNPP nest. Russia looks on as they post more western propaganda and form opinion against Russia. »
This is not true – you limit your perspective to the so called West, while Russia has the rest of the world in mind
In this SMO Russia has always been very careful to respect international law, even as to framing the intervention : all indications are that a large majority of countries have been persuaded to either support Russia or to remain deadpan neutral
This is without drawing attention to the fantastic nature of Western propoganda, which exists within their vacuum, and is un intelligble outside
Orwell said that one of the conditions of understanding double think was already to be able to doublethink – only the west can doublethink

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 4 2022 5:57 utc | 271

Translation:
«Kharkov Z, [04/09/2022 06:14]
HIMARS missile systems in Pokrovsk, on the territory of the DPR so far occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We counted three pieces. Taking into account the fact that many combat vehicles have already been destroyed, and a significant number of “chimeras” are located in the southern and Kharkov directions, it is safe to say that the number of complexes delivered to Ukraine significantly exceeds the number announced by the Pentagon.
At any rate, the column of more than ten combat vehicles seen in Romania was heading in the direction of Ukraine.»
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/19319
——
Nato underreporting, probably by a large factor the stuff they have sent in Ukraine. That probably means they are underreporting the costs, and makes them in fact even more impotent. Now the Leopard tanks?
Meanwhile steel industry shutting off in Germany.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2022 6:34 utc | 272

circumspect @ 159
No matter how comprehensively and exhaustively it is documented that the drug trade is a government enterprise most will simply never believe it. I could telll personal experiences all day long, beyond the patience of our host, people are still going to fundamentally basically believe that government is daddy.
Which is why when government does deeds far worse than peddling dope, like waging war, and waging war on it’s own people, most simply salute the flag. Normalcy bias and daddy always win.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 4 2022 7:13 utc | 273

The “War in Ukraine” YouTube channel reports that the HARM missiles knocked out enough radar in the Kherson region that the Turkish drones can now fly for Ukraine and they are taking out heavy artillery. And the re-supply is only by ferry. So it seems like the Ukrainian counter offensive still has legs.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 4 2022 7:26 utc | 274

I see comments referencing Boris Johnson’s influence in events in Ukraine. From what I’ve read, it’s the Queen who makes foreign policy decisions in UK. She and the US seem to think alike, have the same depraved indifference to humanity as they’re currently exhibiting in Ukraine and elsewhere. In June 2016 the Queen even conferred honorary Knighthood on the founder of jihadist group White Helmets (originally known as “Mayday Rescue”). The Queen was “graciously pleased” to give orders for appointment to “the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, OBE,“ to “James Gustaf Edward Le Mesurier, Director Mayday Rescue, for services to Syria Civil Defence and the protection of civilians in Syria.” Mr. Le Mesurier (now deceased) is a former British Army officer and also worked for the UN….https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2553067…The US lavishly praised and funded the White Helmets-who reportedly insisted on being paid in cash.

Posted by: susan mullen | Sep 4 2022 7:27 utc | 275

Simon | Sep 4 2022 7:26 utc | 275
Simon. Hang in there. Head off to the extermination zone. That is the graveyard of koolaid drinkers. Wave bye bye to the world as you head off.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2022 7:37 utc | 276

275
September 1
▫️2 US-made AGM-88 HARM anti-radar missiles nave been shot down by Russian air defence means near Antonovskyi Bridge.
September 3
⚡️ In the area of Sergeevka, Kherson region, fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down two Ukrainian Su-25 attack aircraft, and in the area Novoselivka, Dnipropetrovsk region – MiG-29 of the Ukrainian Air Force, converted to use anti-radar missiles * *”HARM”**.
Dunno how many “HARM carriers” they have. At least 3 have been destroyed, 4 were reported converted at some point. They may have converted more, but they must be running low on MIGs and SUs planes all together.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2022 7:40 utc | 277

you are mentally unstable
Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Sep 3 2022 22:55 utc | 201

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 22:34 utc | 193
Posted by: Susan | Sep 3 2022 22:59 utc | 203
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 23:13 utc | 209
Okay…it seems that my posting has caused the necessity to insult me, for some people.
Then I will just go from posting once every few weeks to not posting at all, since there is no necessity for that. Especially because it seems that someone indeed usurped my user name, since I most certainly didn’t write a thing like “You are mentally unstable”. Has anyone ever thought of introducing the possibility of creating accounts here? Like on every forum on the internet?
Anyway….I come here to read the postings of the many, seemingly very knowledgeable people. But sometimes it really seems to me that many people want to MoA to be an echo chamber and that any voice doubting that russia is winning with flying colors should be banned. I hope for a russian victory, too, but I always keep an open mind and consider all possibilities.
Now…my posting was meant dead serious, i.e. my wife actually DID send me the mentioned text and I actually DID not know what to make of it – for, indeed, my knowledge in military matters is far from that of the real Helmuth von Moltke – of whom I’m a great admirer, which is why I chose that name.
In diesem Sinne, macht’s gut und Danke für den Fisch.

Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Sep 4 2022 7:52 utc | 278

MiG-29 UA pilots in HARMs way …
Read death of “hero” pilot …

Recently [March 10] the Ukrainian pilot, Major Yevhen Lysenko, was shot down aboard his MiG-29 fighter, which he used to launch AGM-88 HARM missiles, as can be seen in a video made in his commemoration and posted on the Twitter account of the Ukrainian Air Force.

Raytheon made range 30mi/48km … MiG pilots have to fly below radar and thus their HARM missiles are less effective.
Flying ducks?

According to the EAD, the crew manning the Russian air defense system was able to detect the incoming AGM-88D missile and shut down the radars, depriving the missile of the ability to home in on the radiation.
In addition, the EAD reported that the GPS inside the missile could have been jammed by the Russian electronic warfare complexes of the R-330Zh Zhitel or R-330M1P Diabazol, leaving the AGM-88 with INS alone, which could not provide the accurate guidance needed for a successful hit.

https://eurasiantimes.com/russian-s-400-system-facing-the-heat-from-agm-88-missiles/?amp

Posted by: Oui | Sep 4 2022 7:55 utc | 279

276 – Le Mesurier died in Turkey under very odd circumstances.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 4 2022 7:56 utc | 280

The most revealing thing for me,personally,about this conflict. The Emperor,NATO,has no clothes. We already knew NATO was the most casualty shy army,hence the proclivity for proxy wars, and bombing technologically backward countries. Now,like most western institutions,it’s been revealed to be another organisation that exchanges tax payer money for corruption. The other thing I found surprising,was the Russians regard for life vs time. I’m impressed by the campaign as a whole.
The tank talk reminds me off WWII,Tiger vs Sherman. It might take 5 Shermans to ‘kill’ a Tiger. But you were always more likely to find 5 Shermans.

Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 8:08 utc | 281

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 4 2022 7:13 utc | 274
“See I A, selling dope and making hay.”
Some argue that Lennon paid with his life for that line in one of his songs.

Posted by: Paco | Sep 4 2022 8:09 utc | 282

@ 47 Tommy
It is always the poor that die. Look at the US army today. Conscrips or volunteers from the levels of society where the is no other option. Most European militaries do not function in that way, if drafted, you will NOT end up going into combat. In the country I live in, it is prohibited by law.
The soldiers that went overseas were all volunteers, and many paid a very heavy price. Modern combat environment is a confused, terrifying and bloody place to be, seeing your mates getting killed is traumatic at the very least, not to mention when they are blown into so many bits there is nothing to bury. Those pictures in your head never, ever leaves you, sometimes you do have nightmares, but with time the become infrequent. But in case of another vere unsettling event, they return. Ever been afraid of going to sleep? When you are so afraid of nightmares you try to be awake to avoid them? It is hell!

Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Sep 4 2022 8:39 utc | 283

@23 Kaiama
Most of this crap is due to virtue signaling. I live in western Germany and say what I think. Most accept my views and move on. The worst are polish people living in Germany, fanatically anti-Russian.
The population here has little influence on what the WEF puppets like baerbock and habeck do. That’s the reality. The only realistic political parties w.r.t. Russia are AfD and Die Linke. Most people get hysterical when AfD is even mentioned, and Die Linke has a lot of historical baggage. So there you are. Germans will find out the hard way, like they are slowly doing with the corona jabs. But many are contemplating demonstrating.

Posted by: Xeen | Sep 4 2022 8:55 utc | 284


https://vk.com/@739151204-bio-weapons-briefing-september-3
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2022 22:08 utc | 189

Excellent information and posts, as ever!

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 4 2022 9:39 utc | 285

Posted by: Xeen | Sep 4 2022 8:55 utc | 286
Deep down a lot more people know the truth and are waiting for US adventurism get crushed globally. Obviously voting won’t get rid of WEFpuppets, only an armed revolution might, but the fact is as long as markets shelfs are stocked with food and people are satisfied, no one will do anything. Even after that people might be too far in apathy, not care, just let the “government handle it”.
I guess the WEF knows that as well and is part of the reason they take action to promote small birthrate, centralized and failed farming policies, food refining per “their standards”… and the clot shots. The depopulation is already well underway, per excess mortality rate stats all across Europe and The West.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2022 9:40 utc | 286

Here’s Bill Gates talking about population reduction back in 2010 Ted Talk, if someone forget.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSRnPgncs3Q

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2022 9:43 utc | 287

Den Lille Abe | Sep 4 2022 8:39 utc | 284
It doesn’t matter much what twit twat Euro country you are from. You have fought for the anglosphere. Ukraine idiot childs are now dying for the anglosphere.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2022 9:44 utc | 288

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2022 0:20 utc | 229
Thanks for your link. So scary and in the hands of idiots like the US military a disaster waiting to happen

Posted by: watcher | Sep 4 2022 10:19 utc | 289

MI6 has long been essentially a proprietary of the crime clan which owns the Crown. It is the bully-boy of highest international finance and as you correctly point out, give the orders to #10 and Whitehall. CIA is the junior partner, but does enjoy operative control of the entire Federal governmental infrastructure in the U$$A.
So the spy agency run the show, but as managers, not proprietors.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 3 2022 16:23 utc | 107
This seems somewhat plausible. But if the London financiers really have control over their siloviki, as I have heard suggested before, that may be a good thing, as far as anything can be good in this scenario. Surely the financiers, I mean the real money people, not those who write in the financial press or phantasize about being illuminati panhierarchs (the moron Schwab), they must see that this Ukraine operation and the economic war against Russia is the fail of the century.
But do they really have control? Does anyone? Don’t they just run around like headless chickens? Someone else is in charge, not me, I think they would say if their heads were still in place. Let’s put Liz Truss in charge and sell some more vaccines.

Posted by: veto | Sep 4 2022 10:27 utc | 290

Several thoughts;
Tanks.
The Leopard tanks were supplied by Italy. (Ostensibly forbidden by Germany). There have been other unannouced arms from other sources getting to the Front (mainly howitzers, and other portable arms. – Rus reports). So it is a lie that the EU is no longer sending arms. They do not want to be seen sending arms and being treated as belligerents. (Countries such as the UK etc, also do training).
If you like it or not, it has become a Pan-European war pushed by the US. In spite of a total lack of information, don’t underestimate the quantity or quality of arms being supplied to Ukraine secretly.
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Bio-labs.
What to watch is the issuance of visas to the 56 Russian Diplomats who want to go the the UN meeting in NY. This includes Lavrov, who is “under sanctions”. Rumour (unconfirmed posts) has it that they want to expose US Bio-labs and probably all sorts of questionable actions by the Ukrainians and satanic covey partners. So far there have been NO visas issued. Are the US trying to NOT issue visas, to deprive the Russians of the possibility of presenting evidence at a world-wide Meeting? (Remember the other “walk-outs” they could not do this so easily in the UN).
Seems a childish way of getting the stage for themselves – but it would not be the first time.
***
But of course, there comes the problem of where to put the Bio-labs that have been removed from Ukraine, but where they can continue their experiments to target “Slavs”. Baltic countries?
****
Other news from Twitter sources:
Donbass:
“a definitive breach of the 2nd line of defense near Peski now confirmed.
The fortified area between Peski and Pervomayskoye, which holds the key to the whole front, have been taken by the 11th Militia Regiment of the DPR.

**
Kazakhstan;
A US Air Force C-17A military transport aircraft landed at Astana airport, Kazakhstan, on September 2nd, with a delegation of American congressmen .
The US trying to redo another color revolution ?
The first one was a failure.

Either they are on a “cookie” mission or trying to work out where to run to to avoid political or real fallout in the US.
(Astana is also the center, or supposed to be – for the WEF)

Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 4 2022 10:52 utc | 291

In the UK the ‘deep state’ aka civil service,is a sort of mentorship.The comedy show “Yes Minister” is actually surprisingly insightful in this regard. There is an obvious disconnect between the practical application of ‘policy’ and what the psyche of the western public requires in order to maintain the perception they are the ‘good guys’. From the purely practical,stealing Russias resources ,is a benifit to the UK,it may even be required to ensure quality of life. But at the same time the public would baulk at such an action,without it being framed as morally justified. The civil service outlives any single premiership or party ,therefore has the longevity to be the powe behind the throne. As to who or what answers to HRH. Well above my pay grade.

Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 10:56 utc | 292

: Stonebird | Sep 4 2022 10:52 utc | 292
Rus and china are clutching solidly to the UN charter. Either newyork will be removed from the the US or UN will move to another venue. The sooner the new money tribe move into the oblivion of history the better.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2022 11:07 utc | 293

Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 10:56 utc | 293
Dear Bob, I hate to rain on your parade, but “Yes Minister” ended in 1984 and “Yes Prime Minister” in 1988. The world they described has long gone in Whitehall after the “reforms” from William Hague to the Foreign Office – and the “diversity” initiated by Blair and Cameron and left to run amok under May and Johnson – changed the calibre of the Civil Service in a negative direction.
If you have met the kind of people the Treasury can afford to hire you would be unimpressed. Far more often you get the “William Hague Phenomenon”. Hague was recruited by McKinsey and then shunted into the INSEAD MBA course (available for a promising candidate in McKinsey Europe) and then placed on “loan” to Geoffrey Howe as Chancellor of the Exchequer his salary paid by McKinsey.
Such selfless regard for the taxpayer helped McKinsey in bidding for public sector projects……..Goldman Sachs runs a similar program as did Morgan Stanley with Jeremy Heywood who left government to work for MS and helped persuade Gordon Brown to allow Lloyds Bank to go full kamikaze and buy HBOS (Morgan Stanley client) before Heywood returned to No 10 as Cabinet Secretary for the Great Gordon.
Johnson had a scheme whereby big donors to the party (or curtains, wallpaper, vacations) could send their entitled offspring for work experience in government as a quid pro quo – that provided quite a party crowd of bright young bubbleheads for the Lockdown Fraternisation Scheme – although they seemed to like cheap beer from Tesco.
So if you really believe the world of Smiley and Toby Esterhazy or even of Jim Hackett or Frances Urquhart you are sadly off track. What you have is second-raters.
As for MI6 it is run by Moore who was Ambassador in Turkey and developed the Central Asian destabilisation program for Russian torment.
UK is way past its prime and is essentially trying to play off Germany against Russia and Poland with Ukraine as bait

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 4 2022 11:19 utc | 294

Some people on telegram kept saying that these idiotic attacks are caused by the Sep 8 meeting of weapon donors in Germany. It seems they were correct.
This is from today’s report:
“The Kiev regime lost more than 150 militants during the next unsuccessful attempts to gain a foothold in the Mykolaiv-Krivoy Rog direction. During the day, 11 Ukrainian tanks, 17 infantry fighting vehicles were destroyed, including 4 US-made Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, 10 other armored fighting vehicles, 5 pickups with heavy machine guns and more than 150 military personnel”

Posted by: rk | Sep 4 2022 11:28 utc | 295

I was speaking of attitude rather than competence.The ego is certainly bigger than the abilty.But they do know where all the skeletons are burried across successive governments.

Posted by: Bob | Sep 4 2022 11:31 utc | 296

Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 4 2022 10:52 utc | 292
Italy does not operate the Leopard 2A tank. Italy’s MBT is the Ariete, and formerly it operated Leopard 1 and M60 tanks (phased out of service).

Posted by: alberto | Sep 4 2022 12:01 utc | 297

Every newspapers are waiting for The New York Times to tell thé story of the ukranian offensive on Kherson. Before that, it is not possible to say something because thé alignement must bé kept. In France, we have a local NYT, Le Monde. What is thé mechanism of thé consensus création? WE have hundreds thousands of journalists saying thé same things, often false, at thé same time. But they are thinking to bé free. How does it work? It could bé interesting to do a thesis on that.

Posted by: Koui | Sep 4 2022 12:09 utc | 298

Reading Disgusted European’s posting, this Irish-American couldn’t help thinking about Ireland. If Ireland isn’t the small European country about which he writes, it might as well be.
Posted by: Lysias | Sep 3 2022 20:23 utc | 171
Sounds about right!
Ireland is totally bought into the US MNC facilitating mode.
There’s a huge long term energy crisis happening Europe wide.
There’s a moron green energy environment minister.
However they are still going ahead with data centres that consume more energy than 20k town’s.
60k Ukrainian refugees brought into a country with a huge ongoing housing crisis.
And constant Russia bad on the media.
People buy into this without any critical exploration or context.

Posted by: Jpc | Sep 4 2022 12:17 utc | 299

One thing that interests me is just how will refugee ukrainians fare in the winter world. in germany there will be warm rooms. OK nice, but will these be shared between refugee groups as well as locals. I am inclined to think that there will be tensions, between Germans and Ukrainians and sadly between both Germans and Ukrainians and the various refugees from the Middle east and Africa.

Posted by: watcher | Sep 4 2022 12:23 utc | 300