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September 18, 2022
The MoA Week In Review – (Not Ukraine) OT 2022-152

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:

> American officials believe they have, so far, succeeded at “boiling the frog” — increasing their military, intelligence and economic assistance to Ukraine step by step, without provoking Moscow into large-scale retaliation with any major single move. <

The ‘Wild Field’ Where Putin Sowed the Seeds of WarNew York Times – Sep 17

> Columns of dark green military trucks and American-made rocket launchers are thundering down the long, straight highways into the Donbas. But they will have a much harder fight on their hands.

“I’d go into the supermarket to buy some meat, and the shopkeeper tells me, ‘If you don’t speak Ukrainian, I’m not going to sell you any meat,’” Mr. Tsyhankov said. “I’ve been speaking Russian my whole life. How do you think that made me feel?”

At 9 p.m. on July 9, four cruise missiles slammed into a dormitory at the old ceramic plant. The buildings crumbled as if they were made out of sand. Viacheslav Boitsov, an emergency services official, said there were “no military facilities nearby.”

But according to Mr. Mohyla and Oleksandr Nevydomskyi, another Ukrainian military officer, Ukrainian soldiers were staying in that building.

Every night, the horizon in Chasiv Yar lights up with explosions. Ukrainian soldiers operate here almost as if they are on enemy territory, hiving themselves off from the public, watching their backs, traveling by night in long convoys of cars with the lights blacked out, the drivers wearing night vision goggles.

Russian sanctions slow to bite as US officials admit frustrations over pace of pain in MoscowCNN

> The hope had been that the sanctions would quickly choke off Russia’s war machine in Ukraine, making it difficult for the Kremlin to sustain its efforts on the battlefield — and perhaps even turn public opinion against the invasion when day-to-day life in Russian society became uncomfortable.

But the Russian economy has proven far more resilient than many top Biden administration officials had expected when they set out to punish the country in February, thanks largely to record-setting revenues it has reaped in the spring and summer from soaring energy prices. In the first 100 days of the war, Russia earned a record 93 billion euros in revenue by exporting oil, gas and coal, according to the Finnish Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air.

“We were expecting that things like SWIFT and all the blocking sanctions on Russia’s banks would totally crater the Russian economy and that basically, by now going into September, we’d be dealing with an economically much more weakened Russia than the one that we are dealing with,” said one senior US official, referring to the US and European decision to cut some Russian banks off from the SWIFT international banking system. <



Other issues:

Fakenews and Iran:

Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, canceled all meetings and public appearances last week after falling gravely ill and is currently on bed rest under observation by a team of doctors, according to four people familiar with his health situation.

State television showed Khamenei, 83, standing as he spoke in a steady voice to his audience sitting on the floor about the importance of Arbaeen, a ceremony that marks the end of a 40-day mourning period for the grandson of the Prophet Mohammad, Imam Hussein.

Poor countries:

John Burn-Murdoch @jburnmurdoch – 17:51 UTC · Sep 16, 2022

NEW: income inequality in US & UK is so wide that while the richest are very well off, the poorest have a worse standard of living than the poorest in countries like Slovenia.
Essentially, US & UK are poor societies with some very rich people.
A thread:

Afghanistan:

Covid-19:

Use as open (not Ukraine) thread …

Comments

Well, a quick look at Mexico from here in Montréal. I’m enjoying the threads, most recent one ‘specially, although I can’t keep up. Anyway.
Maybe I’ve lived in Canada too long, but Steinmeier did make a statement during his Mexican visit that would pertain to hypothetical overthrow of nations like the ones directly southward of Mexico:
“Steinmeier said that to normalize “border violations and land grabs” would be to open “Pandora’s box” and ultimately threaten the whole world.”
https://mexicodailypost.com/2022/09/21/german-president-frank-walter-steinmeier-meets-with-amlo-and-demands-mexico-condemn-the-russian-invasion/
In some geographical areas, very strong statements are best avoided. Now that Germany, of all places, is nationalizing Uniper, he and President Lopez Obrador have that in common too! Perhaps it was discussed. I keep hearing AMLO speak on corruption.
Telesur reports protests against Guatemala’s president
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Guatemalan-Farmers-Demand-Resignation-of-President-Giammattei-20220921-0008.html
On the Kawsachun News Twitter account, there is a Tweet that links to a spokesperson from the White House, suggesting that communism is the cause of immigration. I’ve had my fill of the Washington view of Latin America for now so I didn’t watch. But it’s there if others would like to.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 21 2022 21:33 utc | 201

@ Bruised Northerner | Sep 21 2022 21:33 utc | 201
who owns mexican daily post?? important to know, and they don’t want you to know!
whois look up of domain ownership –
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—————- american propaganda bullshit ————– stay away…

Posted by: james | Sep 21 2022 22:51 utc | 202

Interesting.
In other news chief troll liar-in-chief, DJT is now fighting in various courts 19 assorted lawsuits.
“Former US president Donald Trump and his company have been sued by New York’s Attorney-General for fraud, allegedly padding his net worth by billions of dollars by manipulating the value of assets, including his Mar-a-Lago home.”
Clearly “The Forbes list of billionaires” is published annually! Has serious excessive padding anomalies! Concerning the wealth of many billionaires’ assets on said list.
As for the one thought at a time redneck “trumpophilliac” worshippers. All of whom believe MAGA MESSIAH ‘DJT’, is not too old to run in 2024. Yet current PREZ Joe Biden is. All bad things about MAGA MESSIAH DJT. Is automatically stored in the fail-to-remember memory storage block. lol

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 21 2022 23:37 utc | 203

@195 bevin | Sep 21 2022 15:57 utc – “my interest in this matter is to emphasise the need to socialise the entire healthcare sector”
I am with you on this in total solidarity. And if we were to share a quiet moment I am sure that we would agree that every damn thing should be socialized (we might spell it differently).
My challenge is that I don’t know how to argue for this, how to lobby and agitate for this – how to organize for this.
But anyway, this is your main point and in this I am in complete and solid agreement.
~~
As to the possibility that nefarious forces are skewing the balance of social evolution (to the bad) – and that this includes a completely contrived response (certainly) and even cause (probably) to what you call a pandemic and what I call biowarfare – we must remain apart.
You know oldhippie is not a liar in this. You know he’s trying to say something very important – something big enough to be worth transcending all self-justification. I’m sorry that you both are at loggerheads.
I pause to imagine what could happen in this world if you and oldhippie could actually links arms and fight together in the same cause, instead of against each other.
I would leave everything and rush to meet you both at the barricades, if you were together. Because then I know we could win.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 21 2022 23:43 utc | 204

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 21 2022 21:33 utc | 201
Sadly the German Constitution clearly states the German Federal President has zero political power. Merely a titled rubberstamping figurehead. All power including foreign policy is in the hands of Herr Sgt (I know nothing!) Scholtz.
Making such a political statement is a complete lie and total fiction/fake propaganda!

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 22 2022 0:02 utc | 205

Not Ukraine… mmm

Sep 12 – Russia Retaliates For Ukrainian Strikes On Russian Controlled Electricity Networks
Sep 13 – A Peace Proposal For Ukraine
Sep 14 – The Kharkov Counterattack – No Big Success – No Large Defeat
Sep 15 – Ukraine SitRep – Hit On Dam Endangers Ukrainian Troops – Russians Defeat More Counterattacks
Sep 16 – Ukraine – Dissecting Some War Propaganda News Items
Sep 17 – Ukraine – Dissecting Some War Propaganda News Items – Addendum
Related:
– The ideology of the banderists – Voltaire Net
– JOHN PILGER: Silencing the Lambs — How Propaganda Works – Consortium News
– Zelensky and NATO plan to transform post-war Ukraine into ‘a big Israel’ – Grayzone
– Zelenskyy Says Post-war Ukraine Will Emulate Israel, Won’t Be ‘Liberal, European’ – Haaretz
Ukraine Wants the U.S. to Send More Powerful Weapons. Biden Is Not So Sure.
The ‘Wild Field’ Where Putin Sowed the Seeds of War
Russian sanctions slow to bite as US officials admit frustrations over pace of pain in Moscow

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2022 0:08 utc | 206

@ 202 james, @ 205 Bad Deal Motors On
Hello to you both! Thanks for the info james but I’m just looking for his remarks. In English. Whether the context is propagandized or not, I just want to know what he said. He spoke to the Mexican Senate, met with AMLO for three hours, and has an international diplomatic entity named after him – the Steinmeier Formula. I tend to believe you don’t get to be president of Germany unless you have support of people (probably German ones) with real power. So I don’t believe his constitutional defined role reflects his true potential to influence.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 22 2022 0:12 utc | 207

@ 203
The most intriguing part of the Trump lawsuit for me is that, if it’s successful, he would be unable to own a business in New York. I wonder about the politics behind/of that.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 22 2022 0:20 utc | 208

fyi
the people in the West are so screwed.
and their leadership so empty-headed
https://twitter.com/imetatronink/status/1572728848403562498
“If your fridge is empty at the end of the month, you can also unplug it to save energy.” – French Minister of Ecological Transition
The revolution will not be streamed.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 22 2022 0:25 utc | 209

Yanis Varoufakis describes the scam behind the EU energy racket.
I have extracted two Yanis presentations from this discussion at DIEM25 channel on utoob.
https://youtu.be/NicE0-N9ux0?t=129
and later Yanis describes why the energy corporations are going bankrupt because of their hedging cover …. https://youtu.be/NicE0-N9ux0?t=3119

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 22 2022 0:38 utc | 210

michaelj72 #209

“If your fridge is empty at the end of the month, you can also unplug it to save energy.”
The revolution will not be streamed.

Priceless!
The french “Minister of Ecological Transition” is a WEFie I assume. Or perhaps he didn’t make that grade. I imagine he could be composted immediately after being drawn and quartered to the cheers of the mob.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 22 2022 0:47 utc | 211

see anti-spiegel.ru for an interesting report from The Lancet on origins of covid.
see below for the Lancet report
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)01585-9/fulltext

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 22 2022 1:04 utc | 212

Bruised Northerner | Sep 22 2022 0:12 utc | 207
“powerful people” are those who control the media and they are not German.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2022 1:16 utc | 213

@ 213
Puh-leeez!! Ok, I’m signing off. Some other time, barflies! Thanks for all the reading material!

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 22 2022 1:28 utc | 214

@ Bruised Northerner | Sep 22 2022 0:12 utc | 207
people or media can say whatever they like to spin something.. that is what i don’t like in that article, no matter what got said.. it is the spin that i find annoying or worse.
@ uncle tungsten | Sep 22 2022 0:38 utc | 210
our moa poster roger made an article on this… click rogers link in his name and sign up to his substack articles… i have.. he discussed this a few days ago.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Sep 22 2022 1:41 utc | 215

Slavyangrad at telegramposted this:
In a highly symbolic gesture, President Vladimir Putin visits the ancient Russian city of Novgorod, on the day when the 1160th anniversary of Russian statehood is celebrated. September 21 is informally known as the “birthday of Russia” – in the XIX century Tzar Alexander II decreed to celebrate the first written account of a Russian state on this day, when, in 862, the Slavic tribes elected a Norse prince Rurik as a leader.
20 years later, it was the regent of Novgorod, Oleg, who conquered the Kievan principate in the year 882, uniting the lands of Eastern Slavs. He also moved the princely seat of Rus to Kiev. In 911, prince Oleg was recognized by the Eastern Roman Empire as a “Great Prince of Rus”.
Finally, on September 21, according to the Orthodox Christian tradition, the Nativity of Our Lady is celebrated. The Orthodox faithful consider the Virgin the saint patron of Russia.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 22 2022 1:51 utc | 216

Bruised Northerner | Sep 22 2022 1:28 utc | 214 “Puh-leeez!! Ok, I’m signing off. Some other time, barflies!” 🙂
Perhaps I have not been keeping up the the Ukraine that is not Ukraine thread enough … ?
… sort of reply I would get in my younger days when I had the urge to reproduce.
This stuff we are all trying to digest Bruised Northener is not good.
One of the German mainstream media a few years back run an article on how CIA controls German media. Media control has tightened considerably since then, but what is undeniable is Germany has been a US occupied country since its WWII surrender. Garrisoned and controlled by the US.
Only difference between that and the history of empires that used massacres to control the local is that the Americans use the medcia to control minds.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2022 2:13 utc | 217

medcia … saw the typo just as I hit post. On reflection it is an accurate description of western media

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2022 2:16 utc | 218

I’m in the middle of rereading a few Platonic dialogues, and I’d really recommend the Apology as having echoes of our own dialogues here, plus even Putin’s explanations of what Russia is doing and why it is doing it, as also his references to western attitudes.
This dialogue is Socrates explaining himself to those who would eventually condemn him to death. He divides his accusers into two groups: the second group is his ‘present day’ accusers; their issues are what I remember: corruption of the youth, disrespect for the gods, etc. The dialogue, however, doesn’t start there – Socrates begins by saying that there’s another group, a primary one. That’s those who have come to hate him from the start of his ‘street campaigns’. Why? Well, it’s because of an oracle that he quotes as saying that there is no man wiser than Socrates.

“…This is the examination, men of Athens, from which I have incurred many hatreds, the sort that are harshest and gravest, so that many slanders have arisen from them, and I got this name of being “wise”. For those present on each occasion suppose that I myself am wise in the things concerning which I refute someone else, whereas it is probable, men, that really the god is wise, and that in this oracle he is saying that human wisdom is worth little or nothing. And he appears to say this of Socrates and to have made use of my name in order to make me a pattern, as if he would say, “That one of you, O human beings, is wisest, who like Socrates has become cognizant that in truth he is worth nothing with respect to wisdom.”
That is why even now I still go around seeking and investigating in accordance with the god any townsman or foreigner I suppose to be wise. And whenever someone does not seem so to me, I come to the god’s aid and show that he is not wise. And because of this occupation, I have had no leisure either to do any of the things of the city worth speaking of, or any of the things of my family. Instead, I am in tenthousandfold poverty because of my devotion to the god…”

This, to me, also explains the hatred of Russia being drummed up by western antagonists. It is not only truth that is an abhorrence to those who would rule the world; it is wisdom.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 22 2022 2:17 utc | 219

juliania | Sep 22 2022 2:17 utc | 219
So much that has gone before us juliania, the accumulated knowledge, the wisdom – all swamped by material toys possessions and nicnacks and media and education system in the material west.
I guess in short the post realism, post culture, post heritage – post, in short, everything of the past. post human.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2022 3:15 utc | 220

From southern Africa right through the great arc to south America the bow was known and used. Unknown to Australian aboriginal people – the first out of Africa.
Even at the lowest sea levels they had to get across a lengthy stretch of ocean to get here. An incredible stable society that comprised of many nations. Wars and “blackfella business” was more ceremonial? (not the word my illiterate mind is looking for) than all out war.
Much to be learned… relearned by the so called west. Multi-polar world is going back to the roots of human society. The fundamentals of humans as a mammal, but with all the millennia of recorded knowledge and wisdom.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2022 3:33 utc | 221

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 22 2022 0:12 utc | 207
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 22 2022 0:20 utc | 208
The Steinmeier Formula was drafted when he was Foreign Minister for Ms. Angela M’s government. Acting under her instructions in 2015.
Basically, as I interpret them. Green light for the De-Russify destroys all Russian culture and heritage government of country 404. To retake the disarmed rebel provinces! Without firing a shot. Treat the Russian natives for a maybe or maybe not election for carefully preselected candidates! With country 404 calling all the shots!
I do believe on the day after Independence day the majority of the country 404 residents population. Of ethnic native Russian history. Were basically treated as third-class citizen trash, war pensioners(all) inclusive. To be thrown under the first passing bus. Minus their stolen assets of course.
Back to DJT. The USSA states operate an extremely complex tax system. Here one pays both state and federal tax business/personal inclusive! Since filing business taxable income/deductions documentation can be voluminous. A tax lawyer/accountant provides a summary cover sheet.
Inflating business property assets equals inflated business tax deductibles. This is a criminal offense under both state and federal laws. Penalties apply to both the tax accountant/lawyer and the business person involved. If the case goes ahead and DJT loses/pays a penalty fee for falsified tax returns at the state level. This means that IRS(federal tax) can issue a demand letter requesting a seven-year Federal tax audit too.
For every tax error found. The Federal IRS can backtrack another seven years from that filing date.
DJT calls it politically motivated. To hide from his “Trumpophilliac” supporters. He is in very deep trouble with the taxman(state/federal). The current repercussions and fallout of this case of “can of worms”! Will be very interesting, indeed.
Inflated business/personal assets when applying for large value bank loans. Has serious ramifications too.
Truth can be stranger than fiction-Mark Twain

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 22 2022 5:18 utc | 222

Bad Deal Motors On #222
Re Trump’s potential demise.
The sooner the better imo. In his case it would seem easier to destroy him than to destroy the ridiculous infatuation with him that has intoxicated many in the USA.
The sooner the USA anti-oligarch masses can find a decent non dem/gop person to rally around, the better. I know that is a high aspiration but there are surely many to choose from in a population that large.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 22 2022 6:00 utc | 223

Novgorod seems like a pleasant, uncrowded city and a fine place to celebrate Russia’s foundation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LTJFLL0pAQ

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 22 2022 6:02 utc | 224

Aussie discipline – Malaya peninsular when the poms ran like rabbits so the Australians and Nepalese Gurkhas has to fall back and and ambush, fall back and ambush all the way to where the brits were cowering on the island upon which the brits promptly capitulated. God save the great anglo hereditory monarch and all its bullshit.
I guess I’m too old school aussie culture to bow to anglo European bullshit. Barcaldine – shearers vs the young men of capital…. a far cry from those days now. Those shearers that were the foundations of today’s left in Australia would now be considered the far right.
Those battles with the yanks, only one ever published, the rest buried. Now the US rainbow flag and propaganda rules. My father inlaws best part of WWII as part of airfield defense was shooting down US aircraft when they returned to the airstrip.
That is now all swamped by massive mainstream and social media propaganda. Come in sucker.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2022 6:17 utc | 225

Russian Aluminum Imports Are Hurting US Market, Rio Tinto CEO Warns

• ‘It just looks strange,’ CEO says about Russian shipments
• Aluminum imports from Russia are up almost 60% since April

Russian imports, which remain exempt from US sanctions, are flowing into the country unrestricted …

“It’s actually very difficult to have a profitable aluminum industry in North America at this point in time because Russian aluminum is flowing in,” Stausholm said. “Right now we have the lowest aluminum price this year and you would have thought the Russia-Ukraine crisis would have led to higher prices in aluminum.”

… Producers across the US and Europe continue to shutter smelter capacity that has become unprofitable in the wake of the energy crisis and global growth slowdown.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-21/rio-tinto-ceo-says-russia-aluminum-imports-are-hurting-us-profit

Posted by: too scents | Sep 22 2022 10:33 utc | 226

@Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2022 6:17 utc | 225 & numerous other posts today
You’re in fine form today Peter! Love your humor and insights. I call it nip ‘n quip. Thanks.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 22 2022 11:48 utc | 227

This is kind of strong language isn’t it? What with Ukraine next door and all.
Hungary’s Orban Declares War on Brussels’ Russia Sanctions Policy in Closed Door Meeting
https://sputniknews.com/20220922/hungarys-orban-declares-war-on-brussels-russia-sanctions-policy-in-closed-door-party-meeting-1101082967.html
Because I seem to be a glutton for punishment, and will probably get b arrested, I’m posting a link to the transcript – in English – of German president Steinmeier’s speech to the Senado de México.
https://www.bundespraesident.de/SharedDocs/Reden/EN/Frank-Walter-Steinmeier/Reden/2022/220920-Senate-Mexico.html
The quotation I referenced above in more complete form is: “anyone who tries to normalise border violations and land seizures is opening Pandora’s box and ultimately is endangering the entire world.” Signing off again, with thanks for the reading material.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 22 2022 17:08 utc | 228

@ peter au…
hopefully you see this.. i read a few pages in the book ‘states of emergency’ from 2022 by kees van der pijl that i wanted to share with you based on your work on the bioweapons labs in ukraine that you were researching… here is the quote…
” Eleven DTRA-funded bio-laboratories are active in Ukraine, over which the country has no control. This goes back to a 2005 between the Pentagon and Ukraine’s Ministry of Health. It prohibits the Kiev government from disclosing sensitive information about the program; Ukraine is required to hand over the dangerous pathogens produced there to the U.S. Department of Defens for further biological research. Finally, the Pentagon has access to Ukraine’s state secrets related to the said agreement. One of the Pentagons laboratories is located in Kharkov where at least 20 Ukrainian soldiers succumbed to a flu-like virus within two days in January 2016, and another 200 were hospitalized. However Kiev did not publicize this incident. Suspicious outbreaks of Hepatitis A in the southeast of the country ( where most U.S. laboratories are located) and cases of cholera caused by contaminated drinking water have also been reported.”
there is a lot more in this book worthy of peoples attention..

Posted by: james | Sep 22 2022 19:05 utc | 229

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 22 2022 3:15 utc | 220
Thanks very much for your comment, Peter. What you say is true. For any that haven’t read it, Plato’s Apology is easier to understand, to my view, than any of the other Dialogues being mostly the words of Socrates himself, and it isn’t a long piece.
I found it restful to contemplate what Plato puts to us as Socrates’ motivation, that which is behind all the other dialogues; much as we learn from Putin’s speeches what is behind his moves “against” the west. For the latter, there always echoes for me Putin’s question:
“Do you know what you have done?”
Which now becomes:
“Do you know what you are doing?”

Posted by: juliania | Sep 22 2022 19:57 utc | 230

From the New England Journal of Medicine
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2209371
Observational study of over 800,000 children. High powered well funded study. In the boiler plate upfront they say what they have to say if they want to be published. The vaccines work. Albeit protection fades quickly and is not that certain ever.
Then start reading. Protection does not merely fade. It goes negative over time. The vex destroys immune response and immune system. The outlook for 800,000 children is grim.
I care enough about 800,000 children to not bother with doctrinaire fools. I’m juvenile? What are we to make of those who would prefer scoring points in an obscure online forum on a dead thread to having basic knowledge? Who fluff off complete inability to comprehend numbers and then base arguments on wholly fallacious numbers?

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 22 2022 20:45 utc | 231

Well, as a nice finishing touch to my posts questioning the tie between military deployments in Europe and hurricanes, Hurricane Fiona is preparing to lay waste to Atlantic Canada.
From this CBC article:
“ “But after that then there’s a bit of discrepancy in the models, whether it heads a little bit closer towards southwestern Newfoundland or it continues to track north towards Labrador,” Brauweiler said Thursday.”
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/hurricane-fiona-thursday-forecast-newfoundland-and-labrador-1.6591201
The Royal Canadian Navy happened to mention Newfoundland and Labrador in a couple of recent Tweets:
https://twitter.com/RoyalCanNavy/status/1572674038496993280
https://twitter.com/RCN_MARLANT/status/1572992053373435905
That last Tweet mentions “During WWII, St. John’s played a valuable role that evolved from a defended harbour to possibly the most important escort base developed by the
@RoyalCanNavy in the North Atlantic.”
More detail on this important naval function from War on the Rocks:
http://warontherocks.com/2020/12/convoy-escort-the-navys-forgotten-purpose-mission/

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 23 2022 8:59 utc | 232

You’re in fine form today Peter! Love your humor and insights. I call it nip ‘n quip. Thanks.
Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 22 2022 11:48 utc | 227
james | Sep 22 2022 19:05 utc | 229
Juliana | Sep 22 2022 19:57 utc | 230
I guess I was starting to lose the plot a bit. The hypocrisy of our governments, the apathy of the people around me gets to me at times. Ended up swamping the previous Ukraine thread with one liners, looked at what I had done, told myself I was an idiot and went to bed.
I have to apologize to everyone for that.
james, thanks for that. There really is a large block of investigation needs putting in with the Rus MoD bio briefings. That young woman that investigated the Georgia lab – her material needs putting up there too. Perhaps I’ll do it perhaps not. Started packing up some stuff to go and camp beside a river yesterday but only pulled out a few things and couldn’t do anymore. All my life I have done physical outdoor stuff so very frustrating.
Juliana
Those classics… learning from history – I have read a lot of history but only one classic ‘The Grapes of Wrath’ and that is not very old.
Something that is just my own thing and I now feel very strongly about – If you know the past, the future can be changed. If you don’t know the past, the same mistakes will be repeated.
From the way I grew up, some turning points in the way I viewed the world. The first I would have been just over thirty. Three small children playing on the floor in front of me – and that was several years we had a TV – and on the TV are boat people coming out from Vietnam. Families. Families like mine with young children. They were those that sided with the french, japanese, french, then the Americans. I don’t judge them but just think how terrible it is when war comes to your country.
A few years later I read a book by an Australian Vietnam vet. I think he was a conscript but it was a while ago. To write the book he researched the history/origins of that war then went back to talk to those he had fought against. Not just in general but direct firefights.
The aboriginal people of the Kimberly… Back to the origins of human society. Before the time of ancient Rome, Greece, Mesopotamia. There was something and African leader said to Russia in the past month or so I may not have the exact wording but – “You treat us like men”
Derby races and the elders said I would never get Dougy back out of town. When we met he told me he was an alcoholic. Monday morning after the races I go into fuel up before loading supplies for the next muster and Dougy is there beside me. He was very worried I would head out without him. He said ‘you are the first person to treat me as a man’. That for what I am, just an ordinary shitkicker … I guess it really drove home to me the ongoing genocide of the culture of the aboriginal people here in Australia. Their social structure is tied intrinsically to their land.
How old cultures/civilizations are tied to their land…
At this stage Juliana I doubt if I could ever believe in a god, but the road of life – the road to Damascus – sure has a lot of confusing intersections.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 23 2022 11:34 utc | 233

@10
Hi Bevin
Especially the poor and ill nourished people should not take the injection as it is pure poison.

Posted by: Lily | Sep 24 2022 9:03 utc | 234