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September 18, 2022

The MoA Week In Review - (Not Ukraine) OT 2022-152

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:

> American officials believe they have, so far, succeeded at “boiling the frog” — increasing their military, intelligence and economic assistance to Ukraine step by step, without provoking Moscow into large-scale retaliation with any major single move. <

- The ‘Wild Field’ Where Putin Sowed the Seeds of War - New York Times - Sep 17

> Columns of dark green military trucks and American-made rocket launchers are thundering down the long, straight highways into the Donbas. But they will have a much harder fight on their hands.
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“I’d go into the supermarket to buy some meat, and the shopkeeper tells me, ‘If you don’t speak Ukrainian, I’m not going to sell you any meat,’” Mr. Tsyhankov said. “I’ve been speaking Russian my whole life. How do you think that made me feel?”
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At 9 p.m. on July 9, four cruise missiles slammed into a dormitory at the old ceramic plant. The buildings crumbled as if they were made out of sand. Viacheslav Boitsov, an emergency services official, said there were “no military facilities nearby.”

But according to Mr. Mohyla and Oleksandr Nevydomskyi, another Ukrainian military officer, Ukrainian soldiers were staying in that building.
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Every night, the horizon in Chasiv Yar lights up with explosions. Ukrainian soldiers operate here almost as if they are on enemy territory, hiving themselves off from the public, watching their backs, traveling by night in long convoys of cars with the lights blacked out, the drivers wearing night vision goggles.

- Russian sanctions slow to bite as US officials admit frustrations over pace of pain in Moscow - CNN

> The hope had been that the sanctions would quickly choke off Russia’s war machine in Ukraine, making it difficult for the Kremlin to sustain its efforts on the battlefield — and perhaps even turn public opinion against the invasion when day-to-day life in Russian society became uncomfortable.

But the Russian economy has proven far more resilient than many top Biden administration officials had expected when they set out to punish the country in February, thanks largely to record-setting revenues it has reaped in the spring and summer from soaring energy prices. In the first 100 days of the war, Russia earned a record 93 billion euros in revenue by exporting oil, gas and coal, according to the Finnish Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air.
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“We were expecting that things like SWIFT and all the blocking sanctions on Russia’s banks would totally crater the Russian economy and that basically, by now going into September, we’d be dealing with an economically much more weakened Russia than the one that we are dealing with,” said one senior US official, referring to the US and European decision to cut some Russian banks off from the SWIFT international banking system. <

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Other issues:

Fakenews and Iran:

Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, canceled all meetings and public appearances last week after falling gravely ill and is currently on bed rest under observation by a team of doctors, according to four people familiar with his health situation.
State television showed Khamenei, 83, standing as he spoke in a steady voice to his audience sitting on the floor about the importance of Arbaeen, a ceremony that marks the end of a 40-day mourning period for the grandson of the Prophet Mohammad, Imam Hussein.

Poor countries:

John Burn-Murdoch @jburnmurdoch - 17:51 UTC · Sep 16, 2022

NEW: income inequality in US & UK is so wide that while the richest are very well off, the poorest have a worse standard of living than the poorest in countries like Slovenia.
Essentially, US & UK are poor societies with some very rich people.
A thread:

Afghanistan:

Covid-19:

Use as open (not Ukraine) thread ...

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I was sort of hoping b would cover the SCO meeting in Samarkand but it really does look like the Eurasianists are really going to go their own way while the West continues to push for neoliberal stuff
Allah willing we'll see the start of real changes in the coming few years with the start of dedollarization

Posted by: leaf | Sep 18 2022 11:55 utc | 1

Pilger - the submissive void. Everyone about me it seems has been led away by the pied piper.
They can all go the way of ukroids. I no longer care. Next day or two I'm going to camp beside a river.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2022 12:07 utc | 2

Pilger

"In my lifetime, the United States has overthrown or attempted to overthrow more than 50 governments, mostly democracies. It has interfered in democratic elections in 30 countries. It has dropped bombs on the people of 30 countries, most of them poor and defenceless. It has attempted to murder the leaders of 50 countries. It has fought to suppress liberation movements in 20 countries."

“best defined as follows: kiss my arse or I’ll kick your head in. It is as simple and as crude as that. What is interesting about it is that it’s so incredibly successful. It possesses the structures of disinformation, use of rhetoric, distortion of language, which are very persuasive, but are actually a pack of lies. It is very successful propaganda. They have the money, they have the technology, they have all the means to get away with it, and they do."

“The crimes of the United States have been systematic, constant, vicious, remorseless, but very few people have actually talked about them. You have to hand it to America. It has exercised a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while masquerading as a force for universal good. It’s a brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis.”
.................

When I was a child, the word gay simply meant that person was happy. Like gay, the word democracy has been twisted beyond all extent of its original meaning.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2022 12:19 utc | 3

Regarding the Atlantic article listed in top post. Who still reads The Atlantic? That publication makes NYT look good. Just liars and propagandists. Yes 500 or so in US still die daily ascribed to covid. Compare to India with four times the population where 20 or 30 die daily. Covid in India is become entirely a disease of the mentally colonised who crave Western medicine and Western diseases. Or compare South Africa where 2 die daily.

People still die of covid because your owners want those deaths. They love death.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 12:45 utc | 4

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2022 12:19 utc | 5

The numbers that Pilger states should at least be multiplied by 3 IMO

Posted by: v | Sep 18 2022 12:49 utc | 5

Why doesn't Pelosi condemn Israel's weapons shipments to Azerbaijan? What is she triangulating in Armenia?

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2022 12:58 utc | 6

What Pilger and company need to do, is step back and look at the bigger picture. "Follow the money." Consider the banking system could not function as it does, without enormous piles of government debt. Reading the news lately, even Austin has said the military has enough funding, yet congress piled on more. The secret sauce of capitalism is public debt backing private wealth. Essentially the military industrial complex is just the trophy wife of the banks.
Government, as executive and regulatory function, is analogous to the central nervous system, while money and banking mirror blood and the circulation system. While we evolved to the point of recognizing government is best as a public utility, the same principle has yet to be recognized about banking.
This has given the financial sector the upper hand, as they are not subject to the same levels of oversight and don't have to plan around election cycles. Consequently they have managed to hollow out government, leaving a bunch of flunkies, sociopaths and prostitutes filling the roles, whose main function is to create as much debt as possible.
We are linear, goal oriented creatures in a cyclical, circular, reciprocal, feedback generated reality, so while markets need money to circulate, people see it as signal to extract and store. The medium has become the message.
Yet a medium is not a store. Blood is a medium, while fat is a store. To store the asset, similar amounts of debt have to be generated to back it. As a medium, we own money like we own the section of road we are using, or the air and water flowing through our bodies. It isn't our picture on it, we don't hold the copyrights and are not responsible for its value, like a personal check.
What the alternative media needs to do, is start a campaign to make banking a public utility. What if articles on the benefits of public banking were to start appearing all over the various coherent corners of the internet. What are they going to do, call it disinformation and fake news? Start throwing people in jail, like Assange? They can't exactly say it's national defense and has to be secret.
https://publicbankinginstitute.org

Posted by: John Merryman | Sep 18 2022 13:03 utc | 7

About as many people are dying from covid as the typical flu. Perhaps covid never was anything more than the typical flu with a lot of hype to get folks vaccinated which will kill just about everyone who too the covid vax.

Posted by: young | Sep 18 2022 12:03 utc | 2

"Typical flu"? When influenza appeared, it was perhaps the deadliest epidemic of 20th century, and comparatively, COVID-19 to influenza 1919-1920 is like chihuahua to timber wolf. The same mechanism of better survival (of the virus) when causing fewer symptoms is turning the strains of coronavirus that descend to COVID-19 very much like other strains. The spread that we see may due to asymptomatic infected people, and like with flu, "obsolete" vaccinations have very limited efficacy.

COVID-19 science, politics and policies are a complex issue, worth dispassionate analysis. The response was a response to unknown, a very common virus mutated to uncommon behavior, policy decisions were based on sparse facts with too little time and too much chaos, so shaky science was passed as solid and authorities applied "resolute measures" that scared public (majority perhaps) required. How to make better analysis of harms versus benefits in the future, and to convert them into more rational response? Are the political systems passing that test on ANY ISSUE? I would say yes, but mostly on less important issues.

I do not regret getting two Pfizer shots, but

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 18 2022 13:19 utc | 8

Why doesn't Pelosi condemn Israel's weapons shipments to Azerbaijan? What is she triangulating in Armenia?

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2022 12:58 utc | 8

Pelosi has many wealthy Armenian donors in her electoral district.

What is going on there is very inflammatory, not making sense. I am sorry for Armenia. Looks to continue conflict there. No idea what Pelosi thinks she is doing, doubt she knows either.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 18 2022 13:22 utc | 9

",,,if your immune system is not compromised and you eat a healthy diet, then theoretically, you should combat corona viruses..." ThusspakeZarathustra@4

Zarathustra speaks for the rich, with superior medical care, unpolluted workplaces, leisure time and choice of diet.
You ought to read the piece about inequality and poverty, which afflicts most of the world population. Or do you only care about the very rich who have all the medical care needed to recover from Covid attacks?

Posted by: bevin | Sep 18 2022 13:26 utc | 10

Video: Biden Arrives in London For Queen Elizabeth’s Funeral
Almost no one showed up to greet him.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2022 13:27 utc | 11

@Piotr Berman | Sep 18 2022 13:19 utc | 10

COVID-19 science, politics and policies are a complex issue, worth dispassionate analysis.
There was zero "dispassionate analysis". It was all out fear generation and totalitarian extortion. It needs to be severely punished.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2022 13:31 utc | 12

I do not regret getting two Pfizer shots, but

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 18 2022 13:19 utc | 10

It only took one J&J shot to give me that "extremely rare" lower brain bleeding stroke. Such a great shot that it has now been discontinued quietly.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 18 2022 13:34 utc | 13

Nothing appealing about Joe Biden. He isn't even an entertaining clown. Watching him sniff and kiss children is repulsive.

Trump, at least, is an entertaining clown who avoids sniffing children, prefers to sniff speed.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Sep 18 2022 13:41 utc | 14

Piotr Berman @10

Only two shots? You do know that many jurisdictions will count you as unvaccinated. If you have faith in this corporate product go out and get at least two more shots and expect that by time you have them yet another will be required.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 13:41 utc | 15

bevin | Sep 18 2022 13:26 utc | 12

What you say about Covid and poverty is perhaps valid in the US

In Africa the poor have very low rates of infection and deaths, most notably in Central Africa

This is due, it may be deducted, from superior immune systems diet and general lifestyle, although I know of only very few serious studies to have examined this

From anecdotal evidence I can say that many of the few deaths recorded were of either bi nationals fleeing EU, or of middle class or élite men, urban, many afflicted by the same ill health as prevails in the EUUS, and having been previously infected by AIDS

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 18 2022 13:41 utc | 16


And will also point out the short term cost of my vaccine reaction was a bit under $60K in the US.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 18 2022 13:44 utc | 17

I donated blood last week. About 80 questions to check off on a computer pad. I got a strong impression that they prefer blood donated by the non CV vaccinated.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Sep 18 2022 13:45 utc | 18

“About as many people are dying from covid as the typical flu. Perhaps covid never was anything more than the typical flu with a lot of hype to get folks vaccinated which will kill just about everyone who too the covid vax.”

Posted by: young | Sep 18 2022 12:03 utc | 2

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You fill hospitals mostly with people with a serious and contagious respiratory illness, thus increasing the pathogenic concentration in these places. You treat some of those with less severe cases with Remdesivir, killing most of them, while using respirators to blow out the lungs of those with more severe cases. In the UK, you might give them Midazolam to “comfort” them, thought it is frequently used for euthanasia purposes. In many places, you take the recovering cases who you didn’t kill in the hospitals and you put them in care homes, where they can spread the pathogen to other “useless eaters.” More remdesivir and midazolam all around.

Huzzah! You’ve got a serious pathogen that needs an urgent vaccine that weakens the immune systems of younger folks so that they are more susceptible to catching and dying from COVID, while the vaxx survivors develop increased incidences of cancer and cardiovascular system issues over a short course of time.

This is nothing less than iatrogenocide.

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Sep 18 2022 13:52 utc | 19

@leaf #1
De-dollarization is a process, not an event.

The biggest thing about the SCO meetings, to me, is that it is 100% clear that Russia is seeking to make NOPEC real - and furthermore to shift its exports from Europe to Asia. Not just China, but India and Pakistan.

This is a huge deal. It will make Europe energy poor even as it turbocharges these low GDP per capita economies.

And in the process, tie together Central Asia into a network of pipelines and natural gas (and oil) suppliers and consumers.

This is a serious "Manifest Destiny" type of movement, especially when added

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 18 2022 14:02 utc | 20

From anecdotal evidence I can say that many of the few deaths recorded were of either bi nationals fleeing EU, or of middle class or élite men, urban, many afflicted by the same ill health as prevails in the EUUS, and having been previously infected by AIDS
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 18 2022 13:41 utc | 18

This observation about epidemiology is quite interesting; there are other illnesses which affect the more "hygienic" societies, e.g. the "inflammatory bowel disease", (also known as Crohn's) - which seems to affect the people who grow up without any infestation with pin worm, because they are so "clean".
The immune system is so complicated, that the current research is just scraping the tip of an iceberg - and yet the scientists think they know a whole lot. That is why I started to have my doubts about the multiple vaccinations for covid. And will take the fourth shot only "contre couer"

Posted by: fanto | Sep 18 2022 14:12 utc | 21

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 18 2022 14:02 utc | 22

That is the plan. USA can do nothing but continue to throw its funny money at the problem.

While it still has value.

Billions of dollars plus weapons.

Proxy wars wherever it can. Revolutions, coups anywhere it can.

Blow sh*t up.

Foot dragging, kicking and screaming.

Lying like hell. Giant media machine. Bright colors. Plastic liars.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Sep 18 2022 14:18 utc | 22

bevin

"Or do you only care about the very rich who have all the medical care needed to recover from Covid attacks?"

Everyone at this bar know that if your media consumption is NYT, NPR, CNN, you will have absolute zero knowledge of what is happening in Ukraine. What you believe will be false.

Same persons are willing to give same media outlets credence for anything medical. Everyone here knows that FDA, CDC, NIH are captured agencies wholly in service of pharma. Same persons swallow everything from pharma whole.

Surely you know that every treatment for covid that does anything is very cheap. Try nasal rinses with warm saltwater. Safer and far more effective than Remdesivir, which is flat poison.

If you got out of the house you would hear lots of stories like the one from SwissArmyMan @15. Or maybe when you leave the house you only speak to NYT readers.

The wife and I each had Covid twice. We were not so foolish as to deliver ourselves to the medical establishment. The most expensive item we used for therapy was black seed, which I still take. Three month supply for $5. I am 70, the wife is 73. My health is good, she has a raft of pre-existing. We should be sitting ducks for Covid. Every single thing you read in MSM is a lie.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 14:24 utc | 23

re

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/17/us/politics/ukraine-biden-weapons.html
">...American officials believe they have, so far, succeeded at “boiling the frog” — increasing their military, intelligence and economic assistance to Ukraine step by step, without provoking Moscow into large-scale retaliation with any major single move....."

as far as I am concerned, if it weren't for the incredible patience and prudence of V. Putin and S. Lavrov in particular, the collective Russian leadership would have already attacked all the command centers in Brussels and London with supersonic and hyper-sonic conventional weapons... or worse!... as co-belligerents in this war.

These guys in D.C. are living proof in the extreme vanity, narrow-mindedness and viciousness of Empire, alienated and unconcerned with the real world consequences of their escalatory and inhumane actions. They are living in their bubble fantasy world; they haven't slow boiled the frog, it just hasn't happened yet that the Russian leadership has really taken off the gloves - but when they do......!

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 18 2022 14:29 utc | 24

The US Army is having problems which hinder its getting the next war on.
From the Army Times --
>Test scores drop, disqualification rates rise at Army recruiting shops
>Veterans suicide rate may be double federal estimates
>Family airs new video, alleges foul play after soldier dies overseas . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 18 2022 14:34 utc | 25


I have no doubt it is fake, which leaves the question "which three letter agency produced it to cover their tracks", it would be standard operating procedure to get rid of unwanted news items.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 18 2022 15:11 utc | 26

Green colonialism in Africa
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(I had to queue over at "archive dot ph", new to me, increasingly popular?).

Sputniknews seems more widely available again and have had some interesting articles. Doing one for now (health diving again).

Green colonialism against Africa.

For everyone else an archived version of the page.

The news article mentions future US targets (if they exist) such as the future Nigeria-Morocco Gas Pipeline (NMGP), the future regional central African pipeline network, the future the East African Crude Oil Pipeline (EACOP), in total something like 10000 (ten thousand) kilometers of pipelines.

"However, numerous western-backed environmentalist entities, the EU parliament and Joe Biden's climate czar John Kerry are up in arms about Africa's bold energy projects."
When the super-rich can't force everybody else to die killing each other they tell them to starve to save the world, no different than it has already been in "the west" for a century, no different as to why the slavers end up importing people to replace the ones they've worn out and killed.

Ethiopia is not mentioned since they're hydroelectric but that is of course "bad" too because it enables them to be much too sovereign.

(Let's see if these links go through the filter).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 18 2022 15:31 utc | 27

@oldhippie #23
It is a waste of time, at this point, trying to change people's minds on COVID.

Those who have identified with "If only we lived in China and did "insert unspeakable things", COVID would be tamed" aren't going to change their minds or admit failure even though the COVID cat is thoroughly out of the bag, worldwide (including China).

The really sad part is that those who have money - could lockdown themselves any time they feel like, forever.

But no, it is more important that everyone else do what this minority wants.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 18 2022 15:39 utc | 28

c1ue @ 28

For the most part you are right.

I am interested in how small that minority is. Note that since jabs became available/recommended for 6 months to 5 year old children less than 5% of the kids have been vexed. Throw in that every number is a lie and the cohort with parents crazy enough to give poison to toddlers is quite small. The vex talkers are still talking like they are in charge and they aren't.

For true believers like bevin or Piotr Berman it is entirely a lost cause. They will die worshipping pharma.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 16:07 utc | 29

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Sep 18 2022 13:52 utc | 19

This is nothing less than iatrogenocide.

A serious allegation supported by a considerable evidence. Yet no formal investigation will take place despite the increasing amount of scientific evidence in support of the allegation.

At the same time, the MSM is focused on reporting its feverish indignation over the fact the RF has buried within a cemetery the abandoned war dead of the Ukrainian state. No mention is made of Ukraine’s publicly stated policy of genocide toward all Russian speakers.

It is a mad, mad, mad, world.

Posted by: Sushi | Sep 18 2022 16:07 utc | 30

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 14:24 utc | 23

What is "black seed?"

Posted by: Sushi | Sep 18 2022 16:11 utc | 31

Could there have been two varieties of Covid from the beginning? One that was sprayed on Chinese causing them to drop dead in the streets. (Or was that fakery?)

And another that was not nearly as potent?

Of course, Italy seemed to have had a (more) lethal type also.

(Common sense would indicate that many among the US Homeless pop. would have become readily infected likewise & would have been dropping dead in the streets.)

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Sep 18 2022 16:13 utc | 32

You ought to read the piece about inequality and poverty, which afflicts most of the world population. Or do you only care about the very rich who have all the medical care needed to recover from Covid attacks?

Posted by: bevin | Sep 18 2022 13:26 utc | 10

Advocating for better heath care in poor countries is a noble cause. However, to expand on my statement from a previous thread, if that was the case for Covid-19 why did Central Africa have among the lowest incidence of disease and death anywhere. Plus no excess mortality.

True, the did not have widespread access to the seriously flawed PCR test, amplified to ridiculously high cycles in the west. They also had widespread use of anti-malarial drugs which have been proven effective against many viruses as well. The basic medical care available in these countries means people have healthy natural immune systems.

I am going out on a limb and stating that the past 30 years of health care in rich nations (overuse of antibiotics and flu inoculations) have suppressed people's natural immune systems. The reason that Covid-19 mostly devastated people in nursing homes is that they are too sterile, filtered air, over-processed foods, etc., so that when a new virus arrives their shut down immune systems cannot handle it.

I would love to get funding for a study to field test that hypothesis, but what are the odds of that?

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 18 2022 16:13 utc | 33

Regarding COVID, it seems like Uttar Pradesh in India did pretty a pretty good job combating COVID.
From my understanding, they used traditional methods to strengthen the immune systems of the populace as well as other measures, and they fared better than a lot of the world.
Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath seems pretty interesting. I know nothing about Indian politics nor his relation to Modi or whatever, but I think their response to COVID is worth looking at.

Posted by: lex talionis | Sep 18 2022 16:19 utc | 34

It appears the UK's close friend, and mass murdering dictatorship of Saudi Arabia, its head is invited to Queen Elizabeth's funeral. Did I forget to mention that Saudi Arabia is a terrible human rights abuser as well.

"The UK’s invitation to Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince and de facto ruler, Mohammed Bin Salman, to attend Queen Elizabeth II's funeral has ignited a wave of protests and criticism from Saudi dissidents and human rights groups.

A CIA report concluded that the crown prince had ordered the murder and dismemberment of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi inside the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul in 2018. Both the Saudi government and the prince denied the allegations.

The late journalist’s fiancée, Hatice Gengiz, said the UK's invitation is a stain on the memory of the Queen and that the Saudi prince should be denied the opportunity to seek legitimacy and normalization by attending her funeral.

She also called for him to be arrested when he lands in London, though she doubted this would happen."


https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/09/18/689423/UKs-invitation-to-MBS-for-Queens-funeral-draws-criticism-

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 18 2022 16:26 utc | 35

so a guy mildly "heckled" epstein BFF and royal kiddie fiddler prince andrew; the guy got arrested. i know the UK is a shithole when it comes to free speech but this kid will face harsher charges than the tween banging pedo he yelled at.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3192301/heckler-arrested-after-calling-prince-andrew-sick-old-man-he

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-andrew-heckler-charged-queen-scotland-1742410

speaking of "da ukraine" and "da israel":

https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/15/the-angry-arab-ukraine-is-the-new-israel/

angry arab thinks "the ukraine" will be the new "israel". i see no reason for idiots in DC to choose when they always have bottomless bags of tax money to throw at stupid endeavors. that dovetails into the "gosh we just noticed in 2022 the US is a banana republic with oligarchs derp" articles. decent schools and single payer health care? nah...here's some F-35s that crash after 5 minutes in the air and more coke money for zelensky.

Posted by: the pair | Sep 18 2022 16:45 utc | 36

Sushi @ 31

Black seed is nigella sativa. Also known as black cumin seed, charnauska. Often sold as an oil. Strongly recommended by the Prophet in text of Koran so will always be available.

There are reports of drug interactions. I think they are overblown but caution is advised. Definitely not with alcohol or other CNS depressants. Not with SSRIs. Not with blood pressure meds or blood sugar meds. Which means you are already somewhat healthy if you can take it. Or you live with Mohammed in the seventh century. But none of that matters if you are taking doses at the food level. Appears as a topping on various flatbreads and on everything bagels. I take a pinch daily. Fifty years of untreatable sinus problems are gone. Metabolizes quickly. If you took a dose in early morning perfectly OK to go have an evening drink. Don't drink and dose before bed.

Enthusiasts will take a tablespoon of oil and might do that twice daily. I tried a full tablespoon of seed a couple times and it was more positive than when a doctor blows out sinuses. You will feel it working, even at a food dose. If for some reason you get no response you blew five bucks.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 16:48 utc | 37

On Pelosi and Armenia, RT reports she's there to offer "security assistance" to Armenia, in yet another in the serial attempts to wrest near-abroad nations away from Russia's orbit. IMO, Azerbaijan is the problem, not Armenia. As Pepe Escobar relates in his Cradle essay, Kazakhstan is also playing the "Fence Game" and needs to see the error of its ways before another Color Revolution attempt is made.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 18 2022 16:49 utc | 38

Chaka Khagan @32:

Could there have been two varieties of Covid from the beginning? One that was sprayed on Chinese causing them to drop dead in the streets. (Or was that fakery?)

And another that was not nearly as potent?

The virus mutated rapidly after it was released in Wuhan. The original virus was tailored with an affinity for subtle differences in ACE2 receptors of East Asian peoples. Of course, that difference in ACE2 receptors is extremely subtle and so the virus dumped that affinity posthaste and evolved a more general attachment to ACE2 receptors. At the same time the virus evolved to cause less deadly symptoms to improve its transmissibility.

The rapid evolution of the SARS-CoV-2 virus was due to the state of the art in virus engineering not being up to producing viruses with robust resistance to mutation. Artificial viruses will thus mutate profusely until they naturally settle down into more stable configurations.

It should be noted that the original form of SARS-CoV-2 that was developed principally at the Chapel Hill campus of University of North Carolina wasn't intended to result in serious symptoms at all. It was designed as a vehicle for gene therapy. Whether its deadliness was due to poor design or to it being monkeyed with at Fort Detrick Maryland is yet a mystery to me, though I suspect both possibilities played a part.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 18 2022 17:13 utc | 39

Re: Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 18 2022 16:49 utc | 38

If Armenia is invoking the CSTO Treaty to request Russian help, a Russian refusal will make the CSTO a "dead letter".

Not sure why Russia would want to undermine the CSTO by refusing Armenian requests for help.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 18 2022 17:20 utc | 40


Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 18 2022 16:13 utc | 33

I would love to get funding for a study to field test that hypothesis, but what are the odds of that?

Studies have already been done which support your hypothesis. This is not my area of expertise but I have seen studies which report that the increased vapour barrier applied to modern homes and the use of air filtration systems impedes young people in the development of a responsive immune system.

The immune system works by enounter with a pathogen and then "mapping" a defence to that pathogen which will re-activate at the next or similar encounter. A high degree of domestic sterility results in the young lacking the immune system protections afforded by less sophisticated building methods.

Posted by: Sushi | Sep 18 2022 17:24 utc | 41

Why doesn't Pelosi condemn Israel's weapons shipments to Azerbaijan? What is she triangulating in Armenia?

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2022 12:58 utc | 6

I am confused about Pelosi's offer to provide "security assistance" to Armenia (a Russian ally). Is she saying that the US and NATO are willing to go to war with Azerbaijan (a Turkish ally)? I didn't know that the Speaker of the House had that kind of authority in the first place?

Posted by: Guernica | Sep 18 2022 17:32 utc | 42

@oldhippie #29
My analysis is that the percentage is well under 5%.
I.e. on par with the far-right in Ukraine.
And like the far-right in Ukraine, their presence is blown all out of proportion to their actual representation in the overall population because the PMC class is pushing that given cause...

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 18 2022 17:37 utc | 43

Studies have already been done which support your hypothesis.

Posted by: Sushi | Sep 18 2022 17:24 utc | 41

Agree on modern buildings. But I was more interested in whether the consistent (excessive) use of inoculations (the Covid-19 products are not vaccines) and antibiotics suppress natural immune response.

Like oldhippie, I am over 70 and have used exclusively natural products for over 15 years with great success.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 18 2022 17:37 utc | 44

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3192655/ukraine-eu-chief-vows-unfaltering-backing-during

Ursula von der Leyen has revealed herself to either be a glow in the dark or simply a self-satisfied upper middle class woman and basically announced the EU is at war with Russia and is seeking only an unambiguous military victory for Ukraine and loss for 'Putin'. I thought the point of her position was to get closer to a Gaulist foreign policy for Europe rather than a US neocon one. These people are deranged and are now the enemies of the people.

Her father Ernst Albrecht worked as one of the first European civil servants from the establishment of the European Commission in 1958, first as chef de cabinet to the European commissioner for competition Hans von der Groeben in the Hallstein Commission, and then as director-general of the Directorate-General for Competition from 1967 to 1970. She attended the European School, Brussels I for the first 13 years of her life.

“I want to make it very clear, the sanctions are here to stay,” she told the European Parliament.

Again childish mentality of a 15 year old girl. It's more important to express disgust than have a rational geopolitical policy. The sanctions backfired, they made Russia relatively stronger than Europe and have exposed Europe to all time social and political showdowns as well as more control and influence from the US which is what caused this whole crisis. An 'accelerationist' might find this a good idea but von der Leven seems like the complete opposite.

People like von der Leven are childish, only seeing Ukraine being invaded by it's former colonial power and ignoring the whole context. If Putin or the Russians really lose will she weep for Syria? Or Lebanon? Will she weep for her own country or the other nations of Europe or does she dream of abolishing them? These people are deranged, they act like they are in a position of complete invulnerability and that European countries should also be condemned as guilty and evil chiefly the marginalised working class whose world and social space they seek to destroy with every breath.

But this feeds into the bigger issue here. The Russiagate hoax has penetrated deep into the psyche of the von der Leven's of the world. And that's why they have gone so mad in this war fever against Putin.

Posted by: Altai | Sep 18 2022 17:37 utc | 45

thanks b...

@ lex talionis - nice to see you back... those books you recommended were great.. the dutch guy on mh17 ukraine and states of emergency.. thanks!

the John Burn-Murdoch overview is interesting...

Posted by: james | Sep 18 2022 17:38 utc | 46

Interesting times. In the west, the mainstream media follows the ordained government with 2% truth/98% fiction/lies and propaganda about country 404.

The latest RF MOD report shows that country 404 battle of the bulge is a complete failure on the eastern front. The complete virtual destruction of the UAF field transport system means the existing foot soldiers lacking autumn and winter cold weather gear are now caught in between a rock and a hard place. As the autumn mud season approaches.

The reality is exposed by a very few brave western reporters "Wilfred Burchett" style. Along with a very open Russian media. Which is openly blocked/censored! Unless you use either "OpenNIC" or "Cloudflare" DNS servers

In the USSA, fools have taken Free speech far beyond the intentions of that specific amendment. In addition, completely ignore all subsequent laws spelling what this free speech can and can't do! The fools consider themselves fake experts. Thus completely fooling the willing while telling lies. Many of the extreme self wanking fake experts. When caught out telling lies. Deliberately and knowingly infringing individuals' civil liberties with bodily harm, death threats, or even worse. When the law comes a knocking on the door with a polite "Please Explain". They yell "Look Ma they are illegally curtailing my freedom of speech rights!".

As for COVID-19 Exercise your brain cells. The truth is out there! Easy to find. Only, if you are capable of using Occam's Razor.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 18 2022 17:39 utc | 47

@Opport Knocks #33
Lots of theories have been thrown around including ivermectin use against malaria, but my view is very simple: the average age in the entire continent is 19.7 years.
Couple that with extremely crappy reporting systems - I am not surprised in the least that COVID deaths are low there.

They should be based purely on COVID mortality for young people.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 18 2022 17:39 utc | 48

William Gruff | Sep 18 2022 17:13 utc | 39

Thank you for the re-cap! Bolsters my impression of what a useless yet Frankenstein-like business it all is, this juggling with viruses. For which Fauci and his Mengele-buddies should be publicly flogged.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Sep 18 2022 17:40 utc | 49

Sushi | Sep 18 2022 17:24 utc | 41

It’s called the hygiene hypothesis

https://academic.oup.com/emph/article/9/1/120/6134081
https://theconversation.com/they-might-sound-gross-but-intestinal-worms-can-actually-be-good-for-you-

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 18 2022 17:41 utc | 50

"No idea what Pelosi thinks she is doing, doubt she knows either."

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 18 2022 13:22 utc | 9

I think I know what the silly bit*h is doing, she wants to run for office again and remain Speaker. But there is a lot of resistance to that idea in her own party and the mid-term elections may kill her dream in any case.

Posted by: Guernica | Sep 18 2022 17:44 utc | 51

@lex talionis #34
Uttar Pradesh did better than Europe but India overall did really poorly compared to Asia overall.

I'd also note that while India's overall average age is 28+; Uttar Pradesh's is 20. See Africa effect above.

Again, the one thing we absolutely, positively know for sure is that the chance of dying from COVID if under the age of 50 is low; basically the chance drops 90% each decile.
Roughly speaking, this means a 50 year old is 100 times less likely to due than a 70 year old; a 20 year old is 1000 times less likely to die than a 50 year old.

And vaccination is not a significant factor compared to these base odds unless you are "high risk": old AND co-morbidities.

And to boot: the vaccination only really helps with the first COVID case - since it is 100% clear that vaccinating DOES NOT prevent you from getting COVID.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 18 2022 17:44 utc | 52

IIRC, ALL among the CIA-developed & promulgated pretend progressive squad happily voted for Pelosi as Speaker. Some of them got to vote for the old insider-trading harpy for two terms.

I haven't seen any opposition to Pelosi, but I am out of touch with mainstream news. I do hope that she will be replaced by another. Of course, her replacement will be yet another corporate tool & warmonger like her.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Sep 18 2022 17:54 utc | 53

c1ue @ 43

Yes. The local health department states that in their jurisdiction the vex rate for over 65s is 100%. They give figures accurate to 0.1% so 100 means 100. The boosted rate for over 65 is said to be above 99%. From personal experience I know this to be rubbish. But I am in no position of authority. A dog's obeyed in office.

No cite at hand, I have read that vexes administered is counted same as vexes shipped. Number of doses shipped is taken from number invoiced. So Pfizer comes up with any number they like and all down the line that is followed.

This might be a good time to note that past age 80 no one has non-imprinted B-memory cells available. No one past 80 gets any benefit from any vex. Past 75 if you do still have unassigned B-memory cells better to let ambient bugs find you. Forget flu shots for elderly. Forget doctors who push the crap.

My analysis is less than 50% of US population took a vex. Very certain there is no possible way to be sure.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 18:01 utc | 54

US-UKR-"UN" clown world comedy
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Not actually "UN-anything" (see the end) and make of it what you will:

"The country [United States of America] that last year ranked 32nd out of 193 UN member states has dropped 11 places in a single year and now trails even Ukraine and Cuba on the list, coming in just [a]head of Bulgaria. "
According to a RT news report based on this rather ethereal list which in turn says it is based on "Sachs et al. (2022): From Crisis to Sustainable Development: the SDGs as Roadmap to 2030 and Beyond. Sustainable Development Report 2022. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press" (link to PDF) which doesn't seem like it would actually have anything directly to do with any UN appraisal or anything UN at all really despite all the SDG talk.

It's just what a handful of paid academics think. Misleading in other words, but funny enough for a joke.

So anyway that's what they're dong in Ukraine; looking for a better country! :P

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 18 2022 18:08 utc | 55

(Common sense would indicate that many among the US Homeless pop. would have become readily infected likewise & would have been dropping dead in the streets.)

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Sep 18 2022 16:13 utc | 32

My theory is that Covid was directed at mostly older retirees with underlaying medical conditions. Of course, nothing is perfect, and a lot of people died who did not meet this criterion, as well as people who survived who did meet these criteria.
Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see how much money governments in western nations that offer substantial healthcare and retirement benefits to retirees saved because of covid.

Posted by: Guernica | Sep 18 2022 18:12 utc | 56

Thanks for the black seed info.

Posted by: Sushi | Sep 18 2022 18:28 utc | 57

Posted by: Guernica | Sep 18 2022 17:44 utc | 51

Pelosi intends to be the first woman to die a natural death in the Lincoln bedroom.

Posted by: Sushi | Sep 18 2022 18:43 utc | 58

[from the original post, attributed to the NYT] American officials believe they have, so far, succeeded at “boiling the frog” — increasing their military, intelligence and economic assistance to Ukraine step by step, without provoking Moscow into large-scale retaliation with any major single move.

Let's see if I get it. First, American officials appear to be provoking Moscow by providing American weapons, personnel, and other assistance, with the intent that Moscow's reacting would provide a pretense for said officials to escalate. Then, when Moscow fails to take the bait, said officials claim credit for not having provoked Moscow.

Paging Lewis Carroll...

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 18 2022 18:43 utc | 59

"...Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath seems pretty interesting. I know nothing about Indian politics nor his relation to Modi or whatever, but I think their response to COVID is worth looking at..."
lex talionis@34

He's fairly well known to be a Modi crony, a bigot given to making inflammatory speeches about muslims and a sponsor of police violence and official complicity in mob lynchings etc.

None of that disqualifies him from making beneficial discoveries in the public health field, except that his time is limited. But his 'response' appears to be very similar to that of other politicians, around the world, who are unprepared to bite the financial bullet and invest in both public health measures and non-profit provision of the best available medical care.

There is a trend, the final twitching of neo-liberalism before it is reduced to open fascism, in almost all western countries away from public healthcare. It is it implicitly reconciled to the acceptance of much lower life expectancy as old people are left to die, or buy their way to private healthcare.

In order to facilitate the political acceptance of what is, in real terms, a demolition of all universal free healthcare and public health systems, alliances are being built to facilitate a roll back in public expenditure in order to enrich the capitalist class and bring living standards and labour costs in the wealthier countries down to the lowest standards internationally.

That is what 'globalisation' consists of and all those who, perhaps to comfort themselves, trivialise the importance of taking public health measures to mitigate the effects of epidemics and deny the elevated levels of mortality caused by the pandemic are the useful idiots of imperialism and its globalisation projects.

From the first, the examples of the UK and Saskatchewan come to mind, the fight against 'medicare' and universal access to medicines has been fought by reactionary, private interests under the banner of "freedom". And, of course, lower taxation. It is a measure of the failure of political education programmes that the same arguments used by Dr Charles Hill in 1948 against the NHS are being recycled today and, astonishingly, in forums like this one.

Needless to say the Pharmaceutical industries, all of which should be taken into public ownership, spend hundreds of millions annually to fight against the socialisation of medicine and to bankroll the forces demanding its privatisation.

It would be interesting to learn what charges are being made against China -"insert unspeakable things"- by the all purpose apologist for capitalism who posts as c1ue. The reality is that the number of those who have died in China is around 20,000 most of which deaths occurred in Hong Kong.

The figures for the other three quarters of the species are in the tens of millions. Which is to say that China saved the lives of tens of millions of people and that, by not following its example, tens of millions of people elsewhere were willfully allowed to die.

That is the stark reality behind the insouciance with which the deaths of millions of people is regarded. It is on a par with the way that successive famines in India- there are reasons why the average age is so low- were accepted by the comfortable bourgeoisie whose rule led to the deaths of millions of poor people from hunger and related (co-morbid) diseases.

The lessons of Covid are very clear- they add up to a condemnation of class rule and capitalism. But the cardinal lesson of the pandemic is that it is a warning. The preconditions for pandemics now exist and are bound to lead to more and deadlier outbreaks which will spread around the globe unless checked. Whether Covid arose from our interference with nature and processes which are still not understood, or whether it was a bioweapon released to kill, is of little importance. Both would be the consequences of a system which is irrational. And which leads to mass psychopathy in the form of the amused and distant contemplation of a holocaust in progress.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 18 2022 19:07 utc | 60

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 16:48 utc | 37

TAKK!💕

ordered 500ml now to try.
I have heard it mentioned b4 but forgotten it until i read ur comments now, hopefully it will work for me.

Per

Posted by: Per/Norway | Sep 18 2022 19:10 utc | 61

Here's a medical analysis by Dr. Pierre Kory of what Uttar Pradesh (UP) did to combat the pandemic, and how it was wildly successful. From what I can see of the real actions of Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath, he seems an extraordinary man dedicated to the well being of his people, a far cry from a bigot - just as UP's success in fighting the pandemic is a far cry from the responses of other politicians.

So you takes yer choice.

ps..thanks for bringing up that story, lex talionis, it was globally censored, and could have been a game changer if the facts of that society's success were known.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 18 2022 19:50 utc | 62

@ bevin | Sep 18 2022 19:07 utc | 60

bevin, you are a bright person... i would like to say a few things in response...

the vaccines china gave its citizens were not these experiments in eugenics... they were not mrna.... china has public banking, or some variation of it, as opposed to the west... as a consequence of people like bill gates being in a position of power over world health organizations, there was a push that all people ''must'' take the vaccine.... choice was not really an option, or if it was you were severely limited.. but the really big thing is how the spending of western gov'ts in power went thru the roof beginning in 2020 - the rationale being the pandemic, but those of us who are more cynical seeing it as a huge money grab... what happens when in order to pay back the debt to these pharma corps, or the mutual fund corps like blackrock when canada is told that we now own your country because you ain't paying back the debt... you can't... for my the whole sale of the mrna vaccines, the expansion of huge debt and all of this makes me think we are being had big time... maybe you see it from a different angle and think these pharma corps with their experimental vaccines were helping, but it looks the opposite to me here... the fact you don't acknowledge any difference in what china verses the west gave as a vaccine - mrna verses not - tells me you are not really into looking at this closely and as oldhippie said earlier in the thread - you go along with the western msm on all of this, while being of the opposite persuasion over the war in ukraine... cheers..

Posted by: james | Sep 18 2022 19:54 utc | 63

Julian @40--

Russia is in very close communication with both Azerbaijan and Armenia and has peacekeeper troops deployed in Nagorno-Karabakh. The Extremely corrupt Aliyev despotic and nepotistic family that runs Azerbaijan (combination Kleptocracy/Dictatorship/Family Mafia) is as bad as one can imagine. Russia's been able to manage the situation until 2020 when NATO paid Aliyev to attack Armenia in an attempt to destabilize the CSTO, SCO and Russia. Aliyev's Information War was pure NATO bullshit. IMO, both Russia and China are keen to be very wary of Aliyev as he and his family are worse IMO than Erdogan. IMO, one of the reasons why NATO abandoned Afghanistan is it had better prospects with Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Georgia, and it entertained further possibilities with the other stans. And when we look closer at all those nations, the reasoning for abandoning Afghanistan becomes clear. We also can see the reason for Xi's SCO speech's warnings:

First, we need to enhance mutual support. We should strengthen high-level exchanges and strategic communication, deepen mutual understanding and political trust, and support each other in our efforts to uphold security and development interests. We should guard against attempts by external forces to instigate "color revolution," jointly oppose interference in other countries' internal affairs under any pretext, and hold our future firmly in our own hands.

Second, we need to expand security cooperation. A proverb in Uzbekistan goes to the effect that "With peace, a country enjoys prosperity, just as with rain, the land can flourish." The Global Security Initiative put forward by China is to address the peace deficit and global security challenges. It calls on all countries to stay true to the vision of common, comprehensive, cooperative and sustainable security and build a balanced, effective and sustainable security architecture. We welcome all stakeholders to get involved in implementing this initiative.

We should continue to carry out joint anti-terrorism exercises, crack down hard on terrorism, separatism and extremism, drug trafficking as well as cyber and transnational organized crimes; and we should effectively meet the challenges in data security, biosecurity, outer space security and other non-traditional security domains. China is ready to train 2,000 law enforcement personnel for SCO member states in the next five years, and establish a China-SCO base for training counter-terrorism personnel, so as to enhance capacity-building for law enforcement of SCO member states.

We should also recognize what the "anti-terrorism" issue is aimed at--NATO--which is the world's #1 sponsor of terrorism. Indeed, that entire paragraph above can be read as NATO operations, which include CIA/MI6/etc. So, the SCO's entire security apparatus is aimed at deterring NATO and Outlaw US Empire efforts to destabilize SCO and SCO-affiliated nations, like those of ASEAN.

As for Pelosi's role, she's selling arms to all sides, which is usually POTUS's job.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 18 2022 20:20 utc | 64

c1ue | Sep 18 2022 15:39 utc | 28

It is a waste of time, at this point, trying to change people's minds on COVID.

Those who have identified with "If only we lived in China and did "insert unspeakable things", COVID would be tamed" aren't going to change their minds or admit failure even though the COVID cat is thoroughly out of the bag, worldwide (including China)

Sad but true. The only thing left for covidiots to do is to fess up...

...that they've fallen, in the most craven manner, to the biggest, most audacious scam in the history of deception. It'll most certainly be one for the history books, if history isn't ended in our lifetimes, but will anyway, retroactively, continue to nurse the general atmosphere of fear and loathing that plagues the 21st century schizoid man.

Posted by: john | Sep 18 2022 20:25 utc | 65

Grieved @62--

I used the Bangladesh and Indian provincial method to combat my covid, specifically 4 400mg tabs of Andrographis Paniculata Extract daily for seven days, then two tabs daily for another seven days, plus increasing my intake of zinc and vitamin D over the entire period. Piping Rock carries the extract and it's not expensive.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 18 2022 20:29 utc | 66

Modi twice attempted to halt the distribution of ivermectin and vitamin D. Look at the India graph and it is easy to see exactly where he imposed restrictions and where he relented. Two very big humps on the graph. Goes straight up when ivermectin is withdrawn and straight down when ivermectin is distributed again.

The complicating factor was in Kerala and Maharashtra there were large numbers of middle class who wanted to be proper little Englishmen and would only have Western interventions. No poor people's medicine for them. They became a reserve of infection.

We live in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. What is different in India is the government had to respond to popular pressure and backtrack. Would never happen here.

I am struck that no one here was following the story at all. Billions of packets of ivermectin, D, and antibiotic were handed out for free in every possible venue. With an instruction sheet. Cost under $0.25 a packet. They trusted the population to be able to read. To behave responsibly and sensibly. Again, would never happen here.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 20:46 utc | 67

Chaka Kagan @ 32:

A complicating factor is that the areas where COVID-19 first broke out (Wuhan, Lombardia in northern Italy, Tehran) happen to be areas notorious for high levels of air pollution. Northern Italy in particular has a long post-1945 history of industrial pollution. This has had impacts on people's long-term health. Wuhan and Tehran are also major industrial centres.

These three areas I mention have physical geographies (they are located in low-lying areas near mountains: Tehran is on a plateau, Wuhan sits near a river, Lombardia is at the foot-hills of the Alps along the Po River) that along with their industry and pollution result in the unfortunate consequence of these areas experiencing temperature inversions (when warm polluted air is trapped under cold air) at particular times of the year. Tehran apparently experiences such inversions in December each year.

As for the videos of people dropping dead in the streets in China early during the pandemic, I've heard those were staged.

Posted by: Jen | Sep 18 2022 20:49 utc | 68

karlof1 | Sep 18 2022 20:29 utc | 66

I used the Bangladesh and Indian provincial method to combat my covid
I used a much more local method for any flu, the one I have used forever: A glass of fresh pressed orange juice every morning, some basic vitamins and normal food. The only thing I did special this year to combat covid was to write to my employer and tell him to shut the f** up with his incessant workplace propaganda and get back to work like normal people.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2022 20:52 utc | 69

karlof1@66 thank you for the tip on Andrographis Panicular extract. thank you as well for the tip on piping rock. included on our recovery protocol was curcumin which is much cheaper @ piping rock with larger medicinal doses possible (canada's restriction on dosage is stupidly low). if you search curcumin on pub med you'll see it is remarkably effective on many different diseases: cancer, heart, arthritis, lung. you must take it with black pepper, oil, coQ10, reseveratrol. my gp was abraham hoffer & i once spoke @ a conference organized by dr. hoffer on coQ10 & curcumin (coQ10 inhibit the bleeding aspects).

Posted by: emersonreturn | Sep 18 2022 20:55 utc | 70

@ james | Sep 18 2022 19:54 utc

Didn't Russia and China suggest that biological warfare was at play, or was it just the Western media accusing them of broadcasting that "perfidious allegation", i.e., "propaganda"?

Posted by: majoab | Sep 18 2022 21:31 utc | 71

The complicating factor was in Kerala and Maharashtra there were large numbers of middle class who wanted to be proper little Englishmen and would only have Western interventions. No poor people's medicine for them. They became a reserve of infection.

We live in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. What is different in India is the government had to respond to popular pressure and backtrack. Would never happen here.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 18 2022 20:46 utc | 67

I'd read that the use of the inexpensive packet of substances and supplies that worked superbly in Uttar Pradesh was withheld from the other states on the advice of the UN's COVID "expert."

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 18 2022 21:43 utc | 72

@ lex talionis | Sep 18 2022 16:19 utc | 34
@ Grieved | Sep 18 2022 19:50 utc | 62

Regarding Yogi Adityanath (b. 1972), he is a Hindu monk who is a Hindu nationalist of the ruling BJP Party. However, his relations with the national leadership actually have not been that good, as he has stationed himself to the "right"(?) of Modi, claiming that the BJP has watered down or sold out Hindu nationalism by not persecuting the Muslims enough. As nationalism, a form of materialist belief, is actually the main religion of the world, it is not very unusual for anyone to be a fanatical, obsessive nationalist, and of course politicians can exploit the nationalism of the majority by trying to sic them on the chosen enemy minority. As a monk, he is just like the Venerable Wirathu in Myanmar: His main point is, kill the Muslims, oust the Muslims, expel the Muslims. The trouble is, Muslims constitute 19.3% of the population of his state of Uttar Pradesh, which had a population of over 241 million in 2021, making it more populous than all countries of the world except for China, India, the US, and Indonesia. I would imagine he has a crack at succeeding Modi, and he is positioning himself for that by showing himself as more true blue against the Muslims. Because the Indian Muslims, now themselves over 200 million people, are the largest minority in the world, this could create a very explosive situation. Adityanath's position seems to be that all the land of India belongs to the Hindus, so the Muslims must leave, be killed, or possibly revert to Hinduism (not sure if he would welcome that). I see no difference between his views and those of so-called "right-wing" Israeli Zionists who want to drive out or kill all the Arabs (no question of conversion there). It has been a commonplace of nationalist history in Israel and elsewhere to accuse the national leadership of failing to make the state absolutely ethnically pure, and Adityanath certainly follows that model.

Why did India turn out this way? Gandhi's vision was a united state, one which accommodated all faiths, never mind the existence of a large Muslim minority. The Pakistan separatist movement, on the other hand, wanted a state for the Muslims, a kind of Muslim Zionism, but what they got was much less than they had imagined. Many Muslims, especially most of the religious leadership, opposed Pakistan on the grounds that it was materialistic nationalism, not Islam. Once the partition was set in motion, with British approval, however, it proved unstoppable. So the South Asian Muslims ended up divided into three similar-sized populations in Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh, while nearly all the Hindus were and are in India. It is thought that Nehru was satisfied with this outcome and surreptitiously encouraged it.

In India, the Congress Party nominally supported a "secular" and inclusive Indian state, but the Indian Muslims and other minorities were always at a disadvantage. But bare "secularism" is not enough cement to hold a multilingual, multiethnic state together, so eventually religion was chosen as the vehicle for unity, a religion that nominally united 80% of the population. This was also a way to try to overcome classism, as the non-Brahmin majority sought equality and affirmative action in various ways. It leaves Muslims and Christians excluded, however, and the hate campaigns that are carried on are hardly conducive to peaceful societal existence, let alone ethical in any sense, except in nationalist logic.

I think nationalists who try to appropriate religion for their nationalist identitarianism should be called out on it. That is, they should be denounced as irreligious materialist hypocrites. This would apply equally to Hindutva Hindus, Zionist Jews, or Muslim statists, such as Da`ish/ISIS, but also other ones who want "Islamic" republics, etc. All of these people are just trying to build a materialistic idol in the form of a state which they want everyone to bow down to and worship. Such idolatry does not fit in the belief system of any of the existing major religions and is indeed inimical to them and threatens to replace them.

Posted by: Cabe | Sep 18 2022 22:50 utc | 73

Some good points, well made - and all very civilised. It can be done!

Wrt dodgy numbers: when I’ve taken a sample of punters (in person) it does not match the reported confidence.

Gotta say I found it funny to hear something my humble mother (and the whole freakin world since ancient times) knows described as the hygiene hypothesis. No offence intended to the poster, it just blows my mind the quantity of human wisdom that seems unknown.

In local news: it took a good week of unbearable bullshit but there is growing backlash against a certain family of rich, evil shits. The natives are getting very over it.

Posted by: Rae | Sep 18 2022 23:07 utc | 74

Posted by: Rae | Sep 18 2022 23:07 utc | 74

"Gotta say I found it funny to hear something my humble mother (and the whole freakin world since ancient times) knows described as the hygiene hypothesis. No offence intended to the poster, it just blows my mind the quantity of human wisdom that seems unknown."

That's because you haven't thought about it any depth. The concept is obvious but it is no basis for practical decision making until its extent and importance has been quantified, and that's the difficult part.

Posted by: RTX | Sep 18 2022 23:19 utc | 75

To every action, there is an opposite reaction.

My girl and me, were perfectly happy with one boy and one girl. I wanted another child, but my wife went back on the pill...

I wanted another baby.

She says no, we have got two.

That's enough...

So then all hell breaks out..The great depopulation event starts with covid...

We continue to do our best, to make another baby which is still great fun in our late 60's..but highly unlikely to result in a baby in my wife's womb.

Meanwhile, our son, who when he was a 13 year old kid, playing computer games, had the handle Sir Killalot...It seems he has changed his handle to Sir Shagalot.

Another baby due soon.

Fortunately, we have a big house, and my wife and I love Babies.

RESIST these WEF lunatics, trying to kill us all.

Make Love and Make Babies

You simply can't beat sex, when you are both in love trying to make a baby

Tony

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Sep 18 2022 23:40 utc | 76

@ majoab | Sep 18 2022 21:31 utc | 71

i am not sure on the background story on that, but i suspect that would have been at play as well... this is another feature of the covid thing - where the hell did it originate and what was the basis for it? i don't know..i doubt anyone will know, but speculation is rampant..

Posted by: james | Sep 18 2022 23:56 utc | 77

@ karlof1 | Sep 18 2022 16:49 utc | 38
@ Julian | Sep 18 2022 17:20 utc | 40
@ Guernica | Sep 18 2022 17:32 utc | 42
@ karlof1 | Sep 18 2022 20:20 utc | 64

Regarding Armenia and Azerbaijan, poor Armenia is really out of luck, and their poor status is really galling to the Armenians in a nationalist world where their nationalism has lost and lost and lost and lost and really gets scant regard. The trouble is, the Turks are way more numerous, especially if one adds up all the Turkic peoples: Turkey, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, and very large minorities in Iran (Iranian Azeris constitute one quarter of Iran's population), Russia (Tatars, Bashkirs, Central Asian immigrants, Crimean Tatars), China (Uighurs, Kazakhs), Tajikistan (Uzbeks), Afghanistan (Uzbeks), and Iraq (Turkomans). Now, maybe the Central Asian Turkic peoples would rather not be bothered with the Armenian question, but it remains a hot issue for Turkey and Azerbaijan at least, and those two surround Armenia.

In trying to avoid Russia, the West tried to develop a pipeline running through Azerbaijan and Georgia to Turkey, so Georgia also ended up allied with the West. Though some western imperialist extremists would like to turn on Turkey for its frequent non-cooperation, it is just too big to alienate completely, and also its NATO membership is hard to finesse, because it really wouldn't do to expel it. The West has also needed Turkey as a Muslim counterweight to the rest of the Muslim world. This has left Armenia high and dry, despite the Armenian diaspora.

Armenia is a poor, high, barren, landlocked land with no resources and a declining population. When the Armenians first began to aim for a national state starting from the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878, they had big plans to get the European powers to endow them with a huge territory and ethnically cleanse the Turks from it. In very little of that territory did the Armenians have a majority of the population, but they were a large minority over a vast region. As things worked out, however, they lost out in Anatolia, from where they were expelled and massacred, they lost the Kars district that had been part of Russia 1878-1918, including the site of Ani, the former Armenian city and capital of 961-1045, they lost the Nakhchevan enclave that became part of Azerbaijan, they lost Mount Ararat and the district of Igdir, and they lost Nagorno Karabakh (Artsakh), which was included in Azerbaijan despite its Armenian population. The little piece that was left that became Soviet Armenia was only saved by the Soviet Union; otherwise, there would have been no Armenia at all.

As the USSR was dissolving, the Armenians tried to grab Karabakh and in the ensuing war with Azerbaijan were able to gain control of a large part of Azerbaijan, driving out some 800,000 Azeris. So Azerbaijan was determined not to make peace with Armenia and got its own back, recovering all their terra irredenta and also driving out the Armenians from about a third of Karabakh.

So the Armenians are fit to be tied, but to whom can they turn? Of their neighbors, only Iran has been friendly, and even its friendship is tempered by the fact that a quarter of its population are Azeris. Russia has had to balance. I think Russia did very well in stopping the complete loss of Karabakh for Armenia, but the matter is not settled, and Russia doesn't even have a direct geographical conduit to Armenia, as it has to cross either Georgian or Azerbaijani airspace.

The US would naturally like to stick its oar in, but it can't really side with Armenia, because relations with Turkey and Azerbaijan are more important, and also Israel is enjoying being allied with the Muslim country of Azerbaijan, which helps it limit its isolation from the Muslim world and also to surround Iran with hostility. Israel and the US might also like Azerbaijan to be used as a base and a platform to break up Iran by appealing to the Azeri population in it to revolt in favor of a Turkic nationalism of its own. So Armenia is kind of stuck with Russia and Iran, despite many Armenians wishing that they could rather ally with the US. This issue was raised during the recent war, especially because Russia was seen by obsessive Armenian nationalists as not intervening soon or forcefully enough, but that view was defeated by the realities of the situation.

Posted by: Cabe | Sep 18 2022 23:56 utc | 78

james | Sep 18 2022 19:54 utc | 63

China also used a range of pharmaceuticals to treat patients successfully. The range included chloroquine and Vitamin C among others. What is more, they published their treatment protocol in April 2020. Anyone could download it.

Posted by: cirsium | Sep 19 2022 0:15 utc | 79

@ cirsium | Sep 19 2022 0:15 utc | 79

thanks..

Posted by: james | Sep 19 2022 0:32 utc | 80

April 2022 China's Global Security Initiative (hereafter referred to as “the Initiative”) for the first time. The Initiative champions commitments in six areas-

1) stay committed to the vision of common, comprehensive, cooperative and sustainable security, and work together to maintain world peace and security;

2) stay committed to respecting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries, uphold non-interference in internal affairs, and respect the independent choices of development paths and social systems made by people in different countries;

3) stay committed to abiding by the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, reject the Cold War mentality, oppose unilateralism, and say no to group politics and bloc confrontation;

4) stay committed to taking the legitimate security concerns of all countries seriously, uphold the principle of indivisible security, build a balanced, effective and sustainable security architecture, and oppose the pursuit of one’s own security at the cost of others’ security;

5) stay committed to peacefully resolving differences and disputes between countries through dialogue and consultation, support all efforts conducive to the peaceful settlement of crises, reject double standards, and oppose the wanton use of unilateral sanctions and long-arm jurisdiction;

6) stay committed to maintaining security in both traditional and non-traditional domains, and work together on regional disputes and global challenges such as terrorism, climate change, cybersecurity and biosecurity. 

by Ambassador Liu Yantao copied from https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/wjb_663304/zwjg_665342/zwbd_665378/202205/t20220506_10682639.html

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 19 2022 0:50 utc | 81

Hurricane Fiona makes landfall in Puerto Rico, knocking out power to the entire island.

(A report from Sputnik - https://sputniknews.com/20220918/catastrophic-hurricane-fiona-makes-landfall-in-puerto-rico-after-shuttering-islands-power-grid-1100936630.html )

Puerto Rico National Guard have been in Poland since prior to the start of the SMO (that’s about as American as apple pie and whatever else is supposed to be quintessential Americana if you ask me)

July 4, 2022 - Puerto Rico Guard unit completes mission in Europe, report from Powidz

https://www.army.mil/article/258138/puerto_rico_guard_unit_completes_mission_in_europe

Aug. 21, 2022 - the 113th keeps in touch with their families, report from Boleslawiec

https://www.army.mil/article/259518/the_113th_keeps_in_touch_with_their_families

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 19 2022 1:05 utc | 82

Below is a current Reuter headline

Biden says U.S. forces would defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion

What does one say except to point out another example of empire not being agreement capable.

The civilization war continues and will enter a new phase now, IMO

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 19 2022 1:05 utc | 83

@ 73 & 78 Cabe - Thank you for that information. I read an article in Granta quite a while back about the partition of India in 1947. I had no idea about the scale of the death that occurred. I also found it a strange coincidence that it happened the same year as the creation of the Zionist entity.

@ James - I'm glad you enjoyed Kees van der Pijl!

Posted by: lex talionis | Sep 19 2022 1:05 utc | 84

The Perth mint deals in physical gold.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-19/austrac-investigates-perth-mint/101438128

I guess that is a threat to western economies.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 19 2022 1:31 utc | 85

majoab | Sep 18 2022 21:31 utc | 71

Russia has presented captured signed documents to the world, both at their yandex site and UN.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 19 2022 1:43 utc | 86

Further to my comment @ 82 (hurricanes, military deployment to Ukraine)

Hurricane Kay struck Southern California earlier this month, breaking records. San Diego was but especially hard apparently.

US Navy assault ship takes part in training in Baltic Sea
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/nation/story/2022-09-04/us-navy-assault-ship-takes-part-in-baltic-sea-training

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 19 2022 2:03 utc | 87

"...Why did India turn out this way?...' Cabe@73
Lord Curzon, the Viceroy, undertook the partition of Bengal in 1905. It was the beginning of policies designed to turn Muslims against Hindus in order to facilitate British rule. Similar policies were pursued throughout the Empire: Chinese vs Malays in Malaya; Greeks vs Turks in Cyprus; Shiah vs Sunni in Iraq; Arab vs Jew in Palestine; Indian vs African in Guyana and Trinidad; Protestant vs Catholic in Irelande...etc etc and then there is Africa....

Posted by: bevin | Sep 19 2022 2:28 utc | 88

@ bevin | Sep 19 2022 2:28 utc | 88

any response to my @ james | Sep 18 2022 19:54 utc | 63 ? i am curious..

Posted by: james | Sep 19 2022 2:46 utc | 89

@ michaelj72 | 24

... they haven't slow boiled the frog,...

Paraphrasing: "It is not the frog that boils, it is you".

Anyhow, it seems they have slow-boiled themselves and the non-Allied powers.

Posted by: John | Sep 19 2022 3:05 utc | 90

Financial feudalism is alive and "well" until it isn't.

I was recently explaining to a friend about the part of The Dawn Of Everything by Graeber/Wengrow where they explained the part of the source of art in indigenous West Coast peoples that was influenced by 25% slavery in the North and non-existent in the South. The North had the masks, totem poles, etc and the South had functional baskets.

Tibet, to me, is another example of where the art of the feudal/religious culture was being used to justify the serfdom and China brought that form of social organization to an end.

Now the China/Russia axis are challenging the global financial serfdom to the the God of Mammon cult.

I think it connects to the challenge to the purely mechanistic view of society instead of the more wholistic/systems view of life.....maybe our species can rise to the challenge of evolving our forms of social organization towards more humanistic structures.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 19 2022 3:13 utc | 91

@Chaka Khagan

Yes. There were two strains.

Strain A = the Harmless inoculation (herd immunity) strain = USA and friends
Strain B = The Lethal strain. Sent off to China, Iran and North Korea.

John Boltons' legacy.

Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Sep 19 2022 3:52 utc | 92

Jen @ 68

A pandemic may have local particularisms. The overriding characteristic is that it is pan-, it is everywhere at once, fast and hard. A pandemic that looks completely different in different places is not a pandemic, it is something else.

You missed mentioning NYC. They have bad air too, the main cause of death was an insane out of control governor killing off tens of thousands in nursing homes based on fractured reasoning and because he could get away with it.

Early on it was possible to imagine the virus was extremely contagious only because it had been circulating for months and possibly years without being noticed. Then a completely meaningless test that found cases everywhere it looked. Longterm the retransmission rate was never above 1.2 before omicron arrived. Omicron not obviously having any connection to original corona, a different virus altogether. With a retransmission rate of 1.2 anything that had even a 20% efficacy rate would have stopped covid dead. None of the mainstream remedies, not even Chinese style lockdowns, had much effect at all. Lockdowns in China got all the press, what was effective was treating the disease. In US we still absolutely refuse to treat the disease. Or mention that the Chinese treat the disease.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 19 2022 5:29 utc | 93

But no, it is more important that everyone else do what this minority wants.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 18 2022 15:39 utc | 28
also Old Hippie

I think drawing conclusions about how covid effects everyone is fraught because it varies so much country to country.
We can safely say that first world lifestyle makes westerners far more sucseptible to illness of all kinds. But does it apply to Covid? There is far too much speculating and too little objective research or even critical thinking about why it might behave differently in different places. Or if it mutates differently in different climates or habitats. Such research would require western countries to care. And they don't.

If Covid is a bio weapon then its possible it targets people with specific genetic differences or weaknesses or even strengths. In countries such as India or Africa there may be something else at play that gives greater immunity. Climate. indigenous diet and medicine for example.

Personally I don't jump on the bandwagon cry that every evil move by the west will effect the starving third world. Sometimes they might actually be better off than we are under certain circumstances for reasons we can't grasp. Especially if the wheat we won't send to them is GM and sprayed with Monsanto Juice. For example. Or we don't have enough toxic Vaccines to send to Africa, for another.

China clearly believes Covid is a targeted bio weapon. They don't do unspeakable things to their citizens, They just practice their own form of disease control for when they have good reason to believe it is a dangerous pathogen.

Over time we will know more about it, probably due to research in non western countries or from Russia's SMO.
However that does not change the fact that covid has been used as a cover for unspeakable crimes in the West at least.

Posted by: K | Sep 19 2022 5:30 utc | 94

Strain A = the Harmless inoculation (herd immunity) strain = USA and friends
Strain B = The Lethal strain. Sent off to China, Iran and North Korea.

John Boltons' legacy.

Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Sep 19 2022 3:52 utc | 92

I've had strain A and its not like any flu I've ever had, some my friends and family have not got their health back fully or at all.

Strain A does not equal harmless.

Granted Strain B may be more deadly.

Posted by: K | Sep 19 2022 5:33 utc | 95

Posted by: K | Sep 19 2022 5:30 utc | 94

"We can safely say that first world lifestyle makes westerners far more sucseptible to illness of all kinds."

Can we really? What makes you say that?

Posted by: RTX | Sep 19 2022 5:39 utc | 96

Can we really? What makes you say that?
Posted by: RTX | Sep 19 2022 5:39 utc | 96

Do you not live in a Western country?

Posted by: K | Sep 19 2022 5:46 utc | 97

Posted by: K | Sep 19 2022 5:46 utc | 97

"Do you not live in a Western country?"

That's answering my question with a question, but for what it's worth yes I do.

Not trying to argue with you. I really want to know why you said what you said.

Posted by: RTX | Sep 19 2022 6:14 utc | 98

"covidiots"

Modern magic word, scientifically designed to compel debating partners to abandon their reason and ungodly opinions.

Postmodern trolling word, cleverly designed to compel victims to respond irrationally, keeping the trolling-fester alive and loud.

Posted by: Otter | Sep 19 2022 7:36 utc | 99

Not trying to argue with you. I really want to know why you said what you said.

Posted by: RTX | Sep 19 2022 6:14 utc | 98

Not trying to argue with you either. Just amazed that its not completely obvious to a fellow westerner: there are many thousands of major health studies into why there is such poor health in the so called first world, declining life expectancy, rise of obesity, diabetes, heart problems, stress, depression, suicide. etc etc

The most dangerous and common co-morbidities for death from Covid include heart and lung disease, obesity and diabetes. also compromised immunity.

This is especially true of the USA but other western countries are not far behind. All of this is so normal in our countries we don't even think there is anything wrong. We are so over medicalised as a society that it's frightening, and the cause of all this illness apparently is a deficiency of patented drugs. Whoda thunk?

This is a brief post I'm not trying to write a thesis but evidence is abundant all around.

Posted by: K | Sep 19 2022 7:43 utc | 100

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