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September 11, 2022
The Izium Withdrawal – A Catalyst For ‘Starting In Earnest’

"We can say that today was the best ever, the second best ever, day for the Russians in the territory of Ukraine. Something must be changed. If you ask what the Russian should change, to tell the truth, I don't know. But I believe, if they don't change anything after this situation, that means there is no need to continue this Special Operation. Because the Ukrainians managed to collect a big number of infantry. Some sources are saying, joking of course they are joking, that now the Ukrainians these days have a so big army that the Ukrainian authorities can give them just stones. And this army is able to crack the Russians' defense order just with stones because there are so much of them."

The above is the opener of Dima's Military Summary of yesterday's events in Ukraine.

The simplistic view that "quantity has a quality of its own," is usually attributed to Joseph Stalin, the Georgian leader of the Soviet Union during the second World War (as well as before and after).

Stalin was wrong, as the Second Battle of Kharkov, mentioned here yesterday, provides. In May 1942, near Izium, the Nazis thoroughly defeated a counterattacking Soviet force twice their forces size.

Stalin was also right. In the end the Soviet Union simply outproduced the German Reich and its allies in nearly everything – tanks, airplanes, cannons, ammunition, fuel, food and soldiers – which enabled its victory. (The much propagandized U.S. role in this was historically a mere sideshow.)

Yesterday's Russian withdrawal from the region between Izium and the Russian border was a disaster for the (pro-)Russian people on the ground. It was also the rational consequence of a lack of military resources. The Russian military forces in Ukraine are too few to hold the 1,500 kilometer long frontline against a Ukrainian military which now has a.) a much larger force to work with, b.) no concerns about high human losses and c.) a steady supply of 'western' weapons.

Russia must adapt to this.

The most mentioned demand in the pro-Russian commentariat yesterday was to "take off the gloves" – to seriously interdict 'western' deliveries of weapons, to destroy Ukrainian bridges and other dual-use infrastructure, to switch from a 'Special Military Operation' towards war.

Why hasn't the Russia's political leadership done this yet?

After observing it for two decades I have concluded that the Russian political leadership, foremost its current leader Vladimir Putin, is driven by two guiding principles. The first is to follow the will of the people. The second are rational policies. The high ratings of Putin and other political leaders have in independent Russian polls is not by chance. It is the result of policies that are a.) rational and well explained and b.) thoroughly democratic in that they follow the public opinion of the majority of the people. They do not allow particular interest groups to have an oversized influence on it.

This can best be seen in the war Putin waged against those billionaires who, in the 1990s and early 2000nds, tried to enter politics to prioritize their interests over all others. They were defeated and those who didn't flee to London have since stopped to interfere with the state.

The other group that traditionally had an oversized role in Russia, especially during the Cold War, is the military-industrial complex. It shrank during Yeltsin's rule due to the catastrophic financial consequences of his mislead privatization drive. Under Putin the Russian military was somewhat resurrected, rearmed and sufficiently resourced. But it was also tamed. Under Defense Minister Shoigu and Chief of Staff Gerasimov the priority of general state policies over perceived military needs is no longer questionable.

The biggest opponents to Putin's policies are the nationalist, not the 'western' favored 'liberal' clowns like Navalny. The nationalists can be found on the political left, right and center. They are not well organized but have a voice throughout the political spectrum. (The former President Dimitri Medvedev currently plays to that audience.) The nationalists even have a voice in public media.

Here are Gilbert Doctorow's observations of their recent position discussed in prominent Russian talk shows:

For his part, Vladimir Solovyov went beyond presentation of the threat posed by the United States and its allies to analysis of Russia’s possible response. He spoke at length, and we may assume that what he was saying had the direct approval of the Kremlin, ..

So, what did Solovyov have to say? First, that Ramstein marked a new stage in the war, because of the more threatening nature of the weapons systems announced for delivery, such as missiles with accuracy of 1 to 2 meters when fired from distances of 20 or 30 kilometers thanks to their GPS-guided flight, in contrast to the laser-guided missiles delivered to Ukraine up till now. In the same category, there are weapons designed to destroy the Russians’ radar systems used for directing artillery fire. Second, that Ramstein marked the further expansion of the coalition or holy crusade waging war on Russia. Third, that in effect this is no longer a proxy war but a real direct war with NATO and should be prosecuted with appropriate mustering of all resources at home and abroad.

Said Solovyov, Russia should throw off constraints and destroy the Ukrainian dual use infrastructure which makes it possible to move Western weapons across the country to the front. The railway system, the bridges, the electricity generating stations all should become fair targets. Moreover, Kiev should no longer be spared missile strikes and destruction of the ministries and presidential apparatus responsible for prosecution of the war. I note that these ideas were aired on the Solovyov program more than a month ago but then disappeared from view while the Russians were making great gains on the ground. The latest setbacks and the new risks associated with the Western policies set out at Ramstein bring them to the surface again.

The recent Ramstein meeting promised "long term assistance" to the Ukraine and announced weapon transfers of new quality.

In the view of the nationalists in Russia it requires a response. Russia, in their view, needs to escalate.

The Kremlin was and is extremely averse to Russian casualties. In this war it prioritizes Russian lives over everything else. That has worked well during the first months of the war. In my estimate the Russian casualties so far were about one tenth of the Ukrainian ones. But the Ukrainian leadership has never cared about casualty numbers. The issue thus does not really matter to it.

Russia had set out to 'demilitarize' and to 'denazify' the Ukraine. The main geographic priority was to liberate the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. The land corridor to Crimea, and the very Russian city of Mariupol, were also important targets.

The demilitarization, mostly by long range weapons, has worked well. The Ukraine no longer has a defense industry. The de-nazification is an ongoing process. The fascist 'nationalist' units like the Azov battalions and their brethren in the Kraken and other groups have been decimated.

The first phase of the war was about pushing the Ukrainian government into an early agreement. The threat to Kiev was designed to achieve that. It nearly worked. At the end of March Kiev agreed to fulfill Russian demands. Then Boris Johnson was sent to push for prolonging the war to "weaken Russia". The Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski has since obeyed that order.

Russia pulled back from Kiev and started phase two of the war. Since then the Luhansk oblast and the land corridor to Crimea, especially Mariupol, have been won. The liberation of the Donetsk Republic has stalled. The number of Russian and allied forces fighting the war was kept steady or even decreased over time. Meanwhile the Ukrainian forces have grown manifold. They are getting a very significant amount of arms from 'western' sources and new promises to keep those supplies coming. Even when they are armed to a lesser degree, higher numbers of men do matter over time.

This made potentially costly defeats, like recently at the Izium front, possible. The Russian military has readjusted to this threat by decreasing the held territory and by concentrating on the original aims of the war.

The Russian public, which at first did not fully understand why the war was necessary, has since grown in its awareness. It now understands the big game that is played against its country. It may soon demand to adjust the level of resources put into the war to the one needed for a decisive victory. Polls will clarify if or when that point is reached.

That is why Dima concludes that: "We can say that today was the best ever [..] day for the Russians in the territory of Ukraine."

It is now probably assured that they will be liberated. One way or another.

I also believe that the withdrawal from the Izium region, which left behind a significant number of pro-Russian civilians under deadly threats from fascist 'filtration' groups, will be the catalyst for a significant escalation on the Russian side.

I may, like so often, be wrong. There is still an intermediate play to come. The 3rd Russian Corps, formed from well paid reservists, armed with new weapons and now reportedly deployed south of the Donbas region, might be a game changer. If it moves north, and manages to role up the Ukrainian fortifications at the Donetsk line from behind, it may become the decisive force. But the establishment of the mobile Ukrainian forces that in recent days moved, largely unopposed, towards the Oskol river, is a new card which the Ukrainians can play again against any weak spot in the Russian lines.

The Russian public, softly led by the Kremlin through Russian media, is now likely to demand more. The question then is how much more. It must not mean the total mobilization of the Russian military. 'Western' claims that Russia is isolated are wrong. It has many friends it can call upon to contribute to its efforts. Diversion moves against the U.S. military in many regions of the world are just one of several possibilities.

Time is always the third force on the battlefield. Both opponents have to play against, or ally with it. Europe is currently starving itself by boycotting Russian energy resources. That is unsustainable and it will, over time, have to stop following its current U.S. directed policies. Economically the Ukraine is broke and it can not, despite foreign subsidies, sustain a long war. There are also potential political changes within the U.S. that will play a role. The long game favors Russia.

Still, the war must be won on Ukrainian grounds. Russia must up its game. On July 7, in a session with Duma leaders and party factions heads, Putin said:

Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try. We have already heard a lot about the West wanting to fight us ”to the last Ukrainian.“ This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but that seems to be where it is going. But everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything in earnest yet.

Well, maybe now is the time to do so.

Comments

Hit civilian areas, hit everything. Gloves must come off – NOW!
Well, that will win the hearts and minds of the Ukrainian people.
Lobbing a few missiles at civilian infrastructure will do three things. 1) Further embitter the Ukrainian people against Russia, 2) guarantee yet more weapon supplies from the West into Ukraine and 3) do nothing to stop Ukrainian forces.

Posted by: Tom UK | Sep 11 2022 18:53 utc | 301

Posted by: Random Mikuchan | Sep 11 2022 18:46 utc | 300
The Russians are doing this because otherwise they would have had NATO (nuclear) missiles with 5 minute flight time to Moscow. They are defending themselves from future aggression and blackmail.
It is not morally right maybe, but I believe the moral burden is greater with the expansionist West at the moment.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 11 2022 18:54 utc | 302

Posted by: Tom UK | Sep 11 2022 18:53 utc | 303
Well, that will win the hearts and minds of the Ukrainian people.
There are no hearts and minds to be won – the hatred is deep and unrelenting. 404 must, and can in fact only, be neutralised/absorbed by force
Depriving 404 of energy would certainly stop Ukraine forces.
Clearly, other targets must be hit as well, suppply lines from the west.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 11 2022 18:56 utc | 303

too good to be true? well as it always is ,)

Posted by: Macpott | Sep 11 2022 18:58 utc | 304

Posted by: Tom UK | Sep 11 2022 18:53 utc | 303
If this is indeed Russia (and not staged by Ukraininas), they probably believe that all 3 issues you mentioned are lost either way.
I wonder however what goals the Russians want to achieve with this action.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 11 2022 18:58 utc | 305

Large areas of central and northern Ukraine have now gone dark and are now without electricity. The Ukraine’s largest combined heat and power system, No 5 in Kharkov has been disabled. followed by a similar plant in Zmiev.
The head of the CAA of the Sumy region also reports a voltage drop throughout the region. Similar statements about fluctuations in the supply of electricity come from near Kyiv, Kremenchug, Pavlograd, Poltava, Dnepropetrovsk regions. This is de-powering the railways.
Over the past few minutes, there have also been reports of water supply being cut off in several districts of Dnipropetrovsk, in the Poltava region, in the Kharkiv region.
In Kyiv, there are severe power outages and a complete power outage of the railway to Sumy, Kharkov and Poltava
People are advised to unplug everything. Yuzhnoukrainskaya and Khmelnitsky nuclear power plants are switched off. No electricity for Ukraine let alone Europe.
To add to the misery rain is forecast for the next few days starting with severe thunderstorms tonight.
These may be related to the targeting of nearly 40 substations across Donetsk reported in the Moscow MoD 11/9 update added above around post 138.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 11 2022 18:59 utc | 306

Wasn’t this third something from Rostov going to come to Kharkov anyway? So of course the Russians planned for this. And as has been pointed out, the Ukie onslaught comes with massive casualties for the Ukie, once again, as if they were doing their very best to get slaughtered.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Sep 11 2022 19:00 utc | 307

Posted by: Random Mikuchan | Sep 11 2022 18:46 utc | 300
“I am not some blind American who supported the Vietnam war and Iraq war…”
* * *
Less is more.
We’ll simply agree that you are “some blind American”, irrespective of what you’ve ever supported in the past.
You should live with that and be thankful.

Posted by: GreyRaven | Sep 11 2022 19:00 utc | 308

I wonder however what goals the Russians want to achieve with this action.
Posted by: alek_a | Sep 11 2022 18:58 utc | 307
Simply, to force NATO to the negotiating table. At present, NATO has ignored all such requests as they rightly perceive Russia to be messing around.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 11 2022 19:01 utc | 309

Posted by: jared | Sep 11 2022 14:42 utc | 168
Hmm…what are you insinuating? That because I am waiting to learn what is actually happening before coming to a conclusion that I work for the NYT? The NYT does not wait to learn the full set of facts but generally presents the facts that it thinks are ‘fit to print’ or they print the facts that forward their agenda in the first paragraphs of the article, while hiding facts that literally contradict their earlier facts later in the article or in another article deeper in the newspaper or worse, they know all the facts and don’t print them.
Just trying to stay true to my nature and my moniker.

Posted by: Objective Observer | Sep 11 2022 19:01 utc | 310

Looks like Russia is giving the energy system of east Ukraine a good going over.
As well as the ZNPP has targeted both the thermal and hydro power stations nearby with ZNPP now having to use emergency generators to power the cooling system for the shutdown due to power transmission infrastructure being destroyed. Ukraine has also been specifically targeting the power infrastructure of Donetsk and Luhansk. No doubt will also calm the Russians who are angry about the ‘defeat’ at Kharkov.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 19:03 utc | 311

@310
Ooh, good one. Really feeling that one, gee.

Posted by: Random Mikuchan | Sep 11 2022 19:03 utc | 312

The Allies did not particularly care about winning hearts and minds during WW2. They did not worry about carpet bombing French occupied cities, never mind Axis ones.
US leaders are openly calling for dismemberment and final subjugation of Russia.
The Western pack of hyenas understand only one thing – force.
Western Ukrainians have thrown their lot in with fascists in order to serve as the fist for global capital.
In a previous era people understood what this entails.

Posted by: Moaobserver | Sep 11 2022 19:04 utc | 313

I wonder however what goals the Russians want to achieve with this action.
Posted by: alek_a | Sep 11 2022 18:58 utc | 307
Simply, to force NATO to the negotiating table. At present, NATO has ignored all such requests as they rightly perceive Russia to be messing around.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 11 2022 19:01 utc | 311
But how? They will just simply double down. I guess new delivery of weapons will be harder now. Is it that?

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 11 2022 19:04 utc | 314

While studying maps is necessary, it can lead one to assume that geography capture and occupation is a goal of a particular military operation. It may be, it may not be.
In this case, Russian SMO was never announced as geography capture and occupation. Destruction of Ukie army, yes. Occupation of Novorossiya, no? Classical Russian maneuver warfare implied, yes. Russia came into SMO because countries she had just recognized asked for her help against the impending US-NATO genocide of Novorossiya. Russia is letting those countries decide whether they want to be part of the Russian Federation, not trying to occupy them. All very legal and above board, which is very important to Putin, Lavrov, Matviyenko, and Novak.
Lavrov stated a while back that newer US-NATO weapons — and presumably personnel, who are now on the ground in C4ISR combat roles in numbers — would cause Russia to push her line of comfort — against US-NATO — farther west, possibly meaning line of the Dnipro or farther west. He did not specify a location for such a line.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Sep 11 2022 19:05 utc | 315

No, the Russian volunteer and modern equipment fitted 3rd Army are believed to be somewhere north or west of Mariupol not in the north.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 11 2022 19:05 utc | 316

Tom UK @ 303
The US was not worried about the hearts and minds in Germany, Japan, North Korea, Iraq, Vietnam. They were flattened. Its called war. If the US was in Russia’s shoes they would have flattened civilian infrastructure in Ukraine the first day.
The week two A bombs being dropped on Japan the Japanese were helping the US unload planes at Atsugi. If they saw a GI walking down the street they would turn their backs to them as a show of shame. They were ashamed. Not ashamed of US but of themselves. That was a cultural thing. Here we have a different cultural attitude. Pure hate and pure greed.
Let us not fool ourselves.

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 11 2022 19:06 utc | 317

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 11 2022 19:04 utc | 316
But how? They will just simply double down. I guess new delivery of weapons will be harder now. Is it that?
Hitting of civilian infrastructure is something new. To date the Russians have been overly cautious in maintaining civiian infrastructure.
Can NATO, morally, continue to attempt to weaponise 404 while the vast majority of the country is without heat or light?
We may be about to find out.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 11 2022 19:07 utc | 318

Interesting comment here in relation to NATO’s bombing of Serbia infrastructure:
“Attacks on power infrastructure were tipping point in NATO’s war against Serbia. Started in April – daily blackouts and water restrictions. Refrigerators stoped working, storing and preparing food became a problem. Within a month support for war dwindled, in June we surrendered.”
Its already mid-Sept. General W isnt far..
https://twitter.com/tutumajac/status/1569030533224534019?s=21&t=pC-4xf6YIqwnL3lyrKGLHg

Posted by: Lozion | Sep 11 2022 19:08 utc | 319

But weren’t NATO concerned about Serbian hearts and minds??

Posted by: Moaobserver | Sep 11 2022 19:09 utc | 320

But how? They will just simply double down. I guess new delivery of weapons will be harder now. Is it that?
Posted by: alek_a | Sep 11 2022 19:04 utc | 316
It is more likely that it will be the economic aspect that will break NATO’s back not the military one.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 11 2022 19:12 utc | 321

we’re well over a century into the era of industrial warfare. sticks and stone break bones but can’t compete with suicide drones. the russians will be fine.
though i have many issues with larry, he does have the typical beltway condition of being an autistic savant and his particular “rain man” ability is analyzing war shit.
https://sonar21.com/understanding-planning-orders-and-troop-movements-in-ukraine/
as i try to remind the 2 or 3 people who read my comments in a week: this. isn’t. checkers. it’s. CHESS. also: take your goddamn ritalin and quit thinking troops movements happen overnight. everything the ukies have done to this point has been suicidal bollocks and there’s little reason to assume this is different.
yes, i feel for the civilians in the overrun areas (the ones who haven’t evacuated and left ghost towns ripe for bombing) but this isn’t the start of a new siege of leningrad. the ukies will be too busy dodging shells, fighting over who gets to use the 2 AKs today and wiping their asses with their hands. all the talk of “new weapons” from the west is naff; it’s been groundhog day with that news and it always ends with scorched trains and blown up trucks.

Posted by: the pair | Sep 11 2022 19:13 utc | 322

Current report of Russian MOD….
MoD Russia, [9/11/22 6:41 AM]
⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
▫️ Russian Federation Armed Forces continue the special military operation.
💥 The Russian Aerospace Forces, missile forces and artillery are launching precision strikes on AFU units and reserves in the Kharkov region.
▪️ The strikes has resulted in the elimination of the military personnel and military equipment of the units of the 14th and 92nd Mechanized Brigades of the AFU in the areas of Staroverovka, Chuguev and Volosskaya Balakleya, the 113th Territorial Defense Brigade in Novaya Vodolaga, as well as the deployment point of foreign mercenaries near Klugino-Bashkirovka.
▫️Enemy losses were over 200 servicemen and more than 20 military equipment.
In addition, during the day, concentrated fire strikes destroyed Armed Forces of Ukraine units in the areas of Pristin , Boldyrevka, Sinikha, Beloye, Komarovka, Gorokhovatka, Kupyansk, Senkovo and Podvysokoye of Kharkov region.
▪️More than 250 Ukrainian servicemen, 12 units of armored vehicles, three field artillery guns, one multiple-launch rocket system and 17 motor vehicles were destroyed.
💥On the Nikolayev-Krivoy Rog direction, high-precision missile strikes by the Russian Air Force destroyed a temporary deployment point of units of the 36th Brigade of the AFU Marine Corps near Nikolayev. More than 100 servicemen and 15 units of motor and armored vehicles of the enemy were lost.
▪️ In total, from September 6 to 10, the Kiev regime losses were more than four thousand dead and more than eight thousand wounded in these two areas alone.
💥Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery continue launching attacks at the military facilities in Ukraine.
💥 Iskander high-precision ground-based missiles struck manpower and military equipment of the 28th AFU Motorized Infantry Brigade during unloading at the railway station of Krasnoarmeysk in the Donetsk People’s Republic.
💥In the area of Mirolubovka, Kherson region, the strikes of the Russian Space Forces has resulted in elimination of over 50 servicemen and 7 pieces of military equipment of the 60th Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
◾️ Eight command posts of the AFU, including the headquarters of the 93rd and 24th Mechanized Brigades in the areas of Artyomovsk and Raigorodok of the Donetsk People’s Republic, the command posts of Battalions of the 1st Tank, 59th Motorized Infantry Brigades, 60th Infantry Brigade and the 35th Marine Brigade in the districts of Kalinovskoe, Maryanskoe of Dnepropetrovsk Region, Kaluga of Nikolayev Region and Belaya Krinitsa of Kherson Region, as well as 43 artillery units, enemy manpower and military equipment in 103 areas were destroyed.
💥Munition depots at Nikolaevka in the Donetsk People’s Republic and Voznesensk in the Nikolayev region were destroyed.
💥A radio detection and ranging station in Staraya Bogdanovka, Nikolayev region, was destroyed.
💥Russian air defence forces shot down an Mi-8 helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force near Ugledar in the Donetsk People’s Republic.
💥Four unmanned aerial vehicles were also shot down in the air of Tomina Balka (Kherson region), Snigiryovka (Nikolayev region) and Kirillovka (Donetsk region).
Two Tochka-U ballistic missiles and two American HARM anti-radiation missiles were shot down in the air near the village of Udy, Kharkov region.
💥In the area of Novaya Kakhovka, Kherson region, 12 shells of the US-made HIMARS multiple rocket-launch systems and nine shells of the Olkha rocket system were intercepted.
📊In total, 293 aircraft and 153 helicopters, 1,933 unmanned aerial vehicles, 374 anti defence missile systems, 4,883 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 831 combat vehicles equipped with MRLS, 3,378 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 5,469 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.
⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
⚠️ In order to destabilize the situation in the territory liberated by the Russian Armed Forces and the suffering of civilians, the Kiev regime continues its deliberate shelling of energy infrastructure: generating facilities, transformer substations, and power lines.
▫️Since September 1 this year, the territory of the Zaporozhye NPP and the city of Energodar have been subjected to artillery fire from the Ukrainian Armed Forces 26 times, including the territory of the nuclear plant.
▫️At the same time, as a result of aimed fire on the transformer substation on September 6 and the power line on September 8, the city of Energodar was twice remained without electricity.
▫️In the territory of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Ukrainian artillery repeatedly struck 22 important power supply facilities in order to de-energize populated areas, kindergartens, life support facilities for the population, and industrial enterprises.
▫️On September 1, three mines of the Donetsk Coal Energy Company, where dozens of miners were trapped underground, were de-energized as a result of the strike.
▫️Yesterday, September 10, 19 transformer substations in the Petrovsky district of Donetsk were de-energized due to shelling by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. More than 1,600 civilian objects were remained without electricity as a result of the shelling.
❗️It’s important to say that the daily strikes against civilian infrastructure are carried out by the Kiev regime in a deliberate and targeted manner.

I posted this in it’s entirety to show everyone that the tempo of strikes by Russian Forces against the Ukies has markedly increased, and to explain why Ukraine’s electricity system has been destroyed.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Sep 11 2022 19:14 utc | 323

JohninMK | Sep 11 2022 19:05 utc | 318
There are reports the Ukies have started clearing paths through their minefields and are preparing their next offensive in that area intending to cut the Mariupol/Donetsk highway. As that is part of the Donetsk region the offensive most most likely have the same ending as at Kherson. I think the attrition rate will be extremely high until those offensive forces have been eaten up.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 19:14 utc | 324

Looks like Putin told the last guy out of kharkiv to turn out the lights.

Posted by: OhhCanada | Sep 11 2022 19:16 utc | 325

@327 The MSM response is fairly predictable. Vicious revenge attack by Putin. Another example of Russian barbarity.

Posted by: dh | Sep 11 2022 19:18 utc | 326

@RB #301,

After 4883 tanks have been destroyed Ukraine still have tanks…

You’re very, very close to realizing a fundamental truth about the Clobber List.

Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 11 2022 19:22 utc | 327

Before the winter comes the darkness.
The outcry will be metric, yet, needless to say the US and NATO guys would have done that on Day 1.
We shall see how much reserves will come to the front lines and make that attack not an Ardennes Mk. II, which is highly likely.

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Sep 11 2022 19:22 utc | 328

Posted by: Exile | Sep 11 2022 18:51 utc | 302
No its SOKO Kitzbühel with Gräfin Vera Schönberg

Posted by: Tiroler | Sep 11 2022 19:23 utc | 329

#23 Altai nailed it. The US escalation in Ukraine was driven by fury at Russia’s impeding of the US/Israeli colour revolution in Syria.

Posted by: hidflect | Sep 11 2022 19:25 utc | 330

Attacks on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure: what is currently known
▪️Around 20:00, the RF Forces launched rocket attacks on the largest thermal power plants in eastern and central Ukraine:
➖Kharkiv CHP-5 and Zmiev CHP in the Kharkiv region,➖Pavlograd CHP-3 in the Dnipropetrovsk region,
➖Thermal power plant Kremenchug in Poltava region.
Launches were carried out from the waters of the Black and Caspian Seas.
▪️The surge and abrupt energy shortages resulted in a lack of generation capacity. The transmission of additional capacities along the energy rings of 750 kV and 330 kV lines did not solve problems in the grid.
▪️Due to the frequency drop at substations, protection began to work, first shutting down large consumers and then entire regions.
▪️The collapse of the energy system spread to the networks of Kharkiv, Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye and Odessa regions. It also affected the areas of Donetsk regions controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Kyiv region and the country’s capital.
▪️Immediately, two Ukrainian nuclear power plants – Khmelnytsky and Yuzhnoukrainskaya – began shutting down their power plants as they could not feed the generated electricity into the grid.
▪️The accident was localized by separating the western and central regions of Ukraine from the eastern and southern regions. Electric trains stopped almost across the country, in Poltava several trolleybuses caught fire right on the streets.
🔻The situation was complicated by the shutdown of the last operational unit of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant on the night of September 11, which was caused by regular attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the plant. Earlier, Ukrainian power engineers disconnected 750 kV and 330 kV power lines from the station. All this led to a significant decrease in the stability of the country’s energy system.
▪️Later, work on restoring power supply to local segments of the Ukrainian power system began. Reserve capacities are connected, energy from the hydroelectric power station on the Dnieper and power lines in the west of the country are redistributed.
Is it enough to paralyze the country’s energy system? Definitely not: for this you need to hit at least autotransformers 750/330kV in the western and central parts of Ukraine, as well as on the Dnieper.
However, this measure is a good signal for hotheads, who are vocal against the background of the success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region.
Therefore, the influence on the enemy’s critical infrastructure must be continued. And not only at substations and thermal power plants, but also at bridges over the Dnieper . #Poltava #Analysis #Russia
#Ukraine #Kharkiv
@rybar

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 11 2022 19:26 utc | 331

There are no hearts and minds to be won – the hatred is deep and unrelenting.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 11 2022 18:56 utc | 305

Stop lying. It’s people like you who spew hatred and confusion. There are countless people with families and friends across the border both ways. Lots of students from Belgorod used to study in Kharkov and would go home for weekends. One of my friends from Rostov has her best friend in Vinnytsia.
Your mind is black with movie violence. Real people have no desire for war.

Posted by: Mike | Sep 11 2022 19:28 utc | 332

oh man the tears about shelling civilian infrastructure from the ukraine and the US are going to be delicious. I maintain that Russia didn’t do any of this before because it was trying to limit damage and be humane, clearly the ukraine and it’s sponsors have no such ideals. So here it is.

Posted by: Lex | Sep 11 2022 19:28 utc | 333

IAEA Report; A US/NATO War Against Russia
Posted by: Robin M. | Sep 11 2022 18:31 utc | 286
thanks for posting this, Ritter gives some context to his statement about NATO equipment being a game changer. also uses a heavyweight boxing match analogy–spoiler alert, Ivan Drago wins. down goes Rocky.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 11 2022 19:29 utc | 334

4,883 tanks and other armored combat vehicles
Ukraine had nearly 7,000 combat vehicles and 2,100 tanks so those numbers might not be out of the realm of possibility. These numbers are actually higher with weapons flowing in from NATO
Military power of Ukraine & Russia

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 11 2022 19:31 utc | 335

Just as Achilles said to The Trojans
“Now you know who you are fighting”
It is sad that it has come to this but maybe the Kremlin has now realised that there is no compromise with the unreasonable, no discussion with the demented. The US/UK/EU can only see their prize of world dismemberment & domination and the continuation of the confidence trick they call currencies.

Posted by: DaVinci | Sep 11 2022 19:31 utc | 336

Vesti reports (“nine minutes ago”): https://www.vesti.ru/article/2935934
Blackout in Ukraine
Telegram channels receive reports of a massive power outage and water supply in several regions of eastern Ukraine at once – Kharkiv, Sumy, Poltava, Chernihiv, Dnepropetrovsk and even some areas of Kyiv.
Interruptions are all over the left bank. The reason, presumably, is the accident at the country’s largest Kharkiv and Kremenchug HPPs. It is reported about the stop of trains and spontaneous combustion of trolleybuses due to power surges. Subway stopped in Kharkiv.
Previously, the last of the operating power units of the Zaporizhzhya NPP, the sixth, was shut down. The reason was the damage to high-voltage power lines, caused by regular shelling of the territory of the station from the Ukrainian side.

Posted by: Oblomovka daydream | Sep 11 2022 19:38 utc | 337

Mike @ 334
Real people have no desire for war.
Maybe not but a bunch of us put on a uniform for whatever reason. Personally, I did if for money. I was too stupid and to young to even consider what war was really like.
I would have been stuck in it if it happened. All of us would have. I guess I would have to blame someone for not teaching me what I now know. War Sucks. All those WWII heroes never taught me that, it was an interlude in their lives.
War has become a job. The guys and gals in the Pentagram move about doing their jobs no matter the consequences. Societies love war for many reasons. Shame on the human race

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 11 2022 19:42 utc | 338

Ukraine is not Serbia. It has a functioning, motivated and well equipped armed forces. They are receiving increasing quantities of weapons and increasingly sophisticated weapons at that. Targeting civilian infrastructure, means you are not targeting military infrastructure or military supply lines.
The Ukrainian narrative will be ‘this is a war crime, please send more weapons as women and children are suffering’. And come they will, because Russia has no capability to stop them. There was talk of ceding land to Ukraine as a way of letting the West save face with a negotiated settlement. Targeting civilians means that’s out of the window.
In summary what is the strategy here? Or is it Russia has lost face, so let’s strike back the only way we can? Not at the UAF, not at military supply lines and infrastructure, but civilians. Is this just designed to make everyone feel a bit better? How does this help militarily over the next week, the next month?

Posted by: Tom UK | Sep 11 2022 19:43 utc | 339

Looks like Russia has had enough of NATO bullshit. This was posted around the time of the blackouts.
https://t.me/mod_russia/19778
Text is from a quote by Admiral Ushakov
“These thunderstorms will go for the glory of Russia!”

Posted by: Watcher | Sep 11 2022 19:43 utc | 340

“…an economy that is controlled and planned by workers, not one that enriches a few people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk or generals who own stock in Raytheon”
Posted by: zeke | Sep 11 2022 12:29 utc | 109
zeke, calm down. Putin is not a communist, no more than Biden or Trump. But Putin did, over time, rein in the Oligarchs as much as possible, though probably not as much as is necessary.

Posted by: Guernica | Sep 11 2022 19:44 utc | 341

Decommissioning of the energy network in Ukraine.
Now don’t forget one thing (except winter) because transport, Ukraine has few diesel-powered locomotives!
In Kyiv people will no longer celebrate as if nothing happens!
And not unimportant… Zylenski has no more income from energy to the EU!
Without electricity or diesel for emergency power …. NO more internet !!
However, Zylenski cannot mine any coal with little or no energy!
The coal he just promised Poland… and which is in short supply throughout the EU!
So coal power and heating plants in Germany will stay cold… Coal from Australia South Africa has come a long way!
The United States always bombed one thing first…. Power plants and water supply = fuck the civilian population!
Has Putin now understood that only 90% of the anti-Russians live in western Ukraine???
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Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 11 2022 19:45 utc | 342

Been thinking similarly. Not even sure RF should escalate. …
Posted by: dfg | Sep 11 2022 18:31 utc | 287

Same here, Jhaji sets it out nicely. I think there’s far too much talk of escalation without considering even the most obvious repercussions,
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 18:32 utc | 289
You’re welcome, glad you spotted it!

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 11 2022 19:46 utc | 343

Tom UK | Sep 11 2022 19:43 utc | 341
The limited targeting of power infrastructure in eastern Ukraine is most likely a response purely to Ukraine’s targeting of ZNPP and the deliberate targeting of power infrastructure in DPR and LPR. Secondary or simply a bonus is it will hinder to some extent Ukraine’s war effort.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 19:48 utc | 344

@341 “In summary what is the strategy here?”
Stop sending weapons and start sending generators.

Posted by: dh | Sep 11 2022 19:52 utc | 345

Boxing analogies to contests between heavyweights and middleweights–Russia is a heavy puncher. The Izyum offensive uses highly mobile dispersed forces less concentrated / condense as targets for Russian bombs and artillery. Kalibr and FAB strikes that kill hundreds are not as attractive when groupings are dispersed into small groups.
Speed of movement also challenges Russia’s speed of target adjustment in kill chain.
The conveyor-belt strategy of allowing West / UKR to deliver meat to Donbas to Russian artillery grinder–and thus allowing UKR weapons / men to be transported to the front does not work on the Eastern front where the flow of men & materiel arrives and disperses faster than in Donbass, faster than Russia can target & wipe it out.
Expect Russia to now more aggressively disrupt trains (rail & electricity), road deliveries, border crossings, airports–perhaps strategic bombing of bridges, tho difficult.
Not sure what ‘decision-making centers’ means, but certainly buildings used for high-level military planning, esp. with West, are now likely targets.
And enough with the Western leaders’ photo ops in Kiev, Lvov, already. Cut Official Ukraine off physical from the Official Limousine class of the West.
As I write this, reports of Russian strikes on electrical infrastructure. They might consider only striking non-Russian cities first. Leave lights on in Odessa? At any rate, Russia’s wish to avoid causing an (authentic vs. contrived) humanitarian crisis might be better to dilute now before the cold weather means pretty much certain death for a certain number children without heat, lights…

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Sep 11 2022 19:52 utc | 346

Now if Russia wipes out those 50,000 troops under cover of the Mighty Wurlitzer song of triumph, while the world thinks they have left, and the nazis are doing their happy dance, then I will revise my opinion.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Sep 11 2022 15:34 utc | 190
Then we can all do our Happy Dance. Well, except for the paid trolls.

Posted by: Guernica | Sep 11 2022 19:53 utc | 347

“Tony, my first and only one-week stay in London was in ’79 on a hitchhiking tour of N.W. Europe…”
I never did the USA, but my Dad did. He hitch hiked from San Francisco to New York in between World War One and World War 2. (Commercial ship not a war ship)
He took 6 months off to discover America.
I probably have loads of brothers and sisters in America and China too.
He met my Mum, in 1939. at the start of World War 2 … and survived that too.
He wanted to fly amd shoot The Nazis down, but they wouldn’t let him..
They said your job, is to patch up the Spitfires and The Hurricanes, and get them back in the air – shooting the Nazis down…which he did
Next his job was to help design and deploy the Mulberry Harbour under live Nazi enemy fire..but all the bullets missed him – fuck knows how
My Dad was my best friend an engineer He could fix anything and as he was a catholic, he wouldn’t use a condom.
He was really sweet and gentle. He wouldn’t attack anyone, but would defend everyone.
It was me who wanted to shoot bastards down in my Pirat Glider, but I was 30 years too late, and there was no one to shoot.
But what a great way to die – defending your country against nazis in a Spitfire.
Can we please stop doing this war stuff now.
I want a world at peace, before I die.
BEHAVE
Play Computer Games instead, and throw up all over your computer screen
If you are lucky, your Mum will clean up the mess.
otherwise you are dead
Don’t buy a gun. Buy a guitar instead.
Tony

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Sep 11 2022 20:00 utc | 348

@ dh | Sep 11 2022 19:52 utc | 348
lol… thanks for trying to educate the largely illiterate uk audience here…. i figure if they are all reading such high quality uk msm outlets as the uk express, they are suffering much the same fate as the ukrainians – a serious black out…

Posted by: james | Sep 11 2022 20:01 utc | 349

Paul Damascene | Sep 11 2022 19:52 utc | 349
I doubt there will be any escalation to bridges and so forth. As we saw with the Kherson offensive, Russia can easily deal with them. There is no chance that Russia did not see the preparation and Buildup for the Northern offensive, Russia has withdrawn most of its forces prior to a full withdrawal from Kharkov region. Russia could have set a trap there which I expected them to do, but instead chose to make the full withdrawal appear a victory for Ukraine offensive.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 20:03 utc | 350

Enough of this being all NATO’s fault. NATO is able to do this for one reason. Russia has not taken out the Zelensky regime.
As long as the regime exists and is intent on making Ukrainians die to the last man, the US will happily keep sending money and arms. And the bankers will keep loaning the US government the money, with pleasure. And the US arms manufacturers will ramp up production, with pleasure.
If demilitarizing Ukraine is the goal, then it the only way to do that is regime change. Zelinsky will keep taking US money and arms as long as the US sends it.
We in the US have no say in the matter. The US could easily spend another $50 billion in Ukraine. The first $50 billion was spent without incident. So will the next $50 billion.
There must be regime change in Kiev, and if there is not, and the war drags on, blaming NATO is blaming the wrong side. Russia needs to make a concentrated effort to get Zelensky the way the US took out Saddam.

Posted by: davidgmillsatty | Sep 11 2022 20:03 utc | 351

The weirdest things are:
1- Russia only targets the East where russian speaking people dwell (how about Lvov, Kiev, Vinnitsa – weak in geography like Americans?).
2- Gas flows freely thru Ukrainian pipelines, reaches EU while paying fees to Kiev !!!???
I’m starting to dislike this farce …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Sep 11 2022 20:03 utc | 352

it is really interesting that kiev and lvov were spared. or spared this time? no more night life in kiev and photo ops with nato leaders? but, the main thing is ukraine like today, with zelensky on helm, is danger for humanity. it must be stopped either way.

Posted by: denazi | Sep 11 2022 20:09 utc | 353

Russia has started turning off the lights and water in much of Ukraine.
Russian social media is joking that Ukraine is shelling it’s own power plants…making fun of the claims Russia was shelling it’s own ZNPP.
I believe Russia is getting serious.

Posted by: JustAMaverick | Sep 11 2022 20:09 utc | 354

The limited targeting of power infrastructure in eastern Ukraine …
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 19:48 utc | 346

Has RF acknowledged responsibility? Targeting railway power lines would be more in line with expectations, but targeting purely civilian power infrastructure and very hard-to-replace transformers doesn’t fit what we’ve seen so far from RF.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 11 2022 20:10 utc | 355

Measured by dead and otherwise lost soldiers and equipment, september is the best month for russian progress.
Also I was wondering why elections were not announced for kharkov region and even passports were not available for kharkov until it was made available to all ukrainians.
Seems the kharkov oblast was never any priority to keep and just a convenient buffer zone, unless it really was a trap and the counter attack will wipe out the ukie forces in kharkov. or maybe they storm kharkov city?
Impossible to know until the dust settles on the russian response.

Posted by: ct | Sep 11 2022 20:11 utc | 356

It’s even worse. Russian financial powers that have a lot of influence on Putin, (directly control Putin), have declared a stop to further war west of the Dnieper. This war is likely to end with the liberation of the two republics in the Donbas. The Kremlin is again talking about negotiating with Zelensky, and Russia’s advance is apparently on hold. Far from treating NATO countries as enemies, the Kremlin is still energising Europe to the extent that Europe will allow. Senior Russian officials talk as if proving that Russia is a reliable energy supplier is more important than the lives of its soldiers fighting Western-trained and equipped Ukrainian troops whose weapons are supplied by European countries whose arms industries run on Russian energy. Please explain to me what kind of war this is if Russia continues to supply Ukraine with oil, which the Ukrainians then fill into their tanks and kill Russian soldiers. It makes me very sad to see that tens of thousands of young Russian boys, and thousands Russian civil people have given their lives for basically NOTHING.

Posted by: Vladimir | Sep 11 2022 20:11 utc | 357

@ davidgmillsatty | Sep 11 2022 20:03 utc | 355
you’re joking right?? taking out zelensky regime will mean it just gets replaced with another cia-mi6 puppet… think for a moment…

Posted by: james | Sep 11 2022 20:15 utc | 358

the first thing nato did in bombing of serbia is to constantly shelling power infrastructure, day by day during 78 days campaign. no one from western countries shed any tears about destiny of civilians in serbia witout water and electricity. just the opposite.

Posted by: denazi | Sep 11 2022 20:15 utc | 359

I skip the tsunami of new posters here and restrict my lecture to those barflies I know since months.

Posted by: njet | Sep 11 2022 20:16 utc | 360

The intellectual level (and coarse language) of some trolls is approaching that of Southfront’s comments section. But then I guess the troll masters don’t really have any decency left and they will pay even the worst of the worst…I do hope B will not allow the insults and obscenities though.

Posted by: Anthony | Sep 11 2022 20:16 utc | 361

Yenwoda, what did you mean that Ukrainians need to press on their advantage and liberate territories north of Dnipro? From what I can see, all those territories are under Ukrainian control. Did you mean east?

Posted by: Krištof | Sep 11 2022 20:17 utc | 362

P.S. Donbass independence alone cannot be the Russian goal. That means a likely nuclear armed militantly anti-Russian Ukraine that will start another war sooner rather than later. The only outcome for the Russians that is not a total defeat is complete dismantling of the Ukrainian state and eventual de-Ukrainization of the population. Otherwise what will happen is not only a completion of the (very successfully ongoing already) de-Russification of Ukraine, but dismemberment of Russia itself.
When the war started, Putin’s speeches (and other statements over the years) gave the impression that he understands very well what the stakes are. But here we are now…
Posted by: Tbx | Sep 11 2022 16:23 utc | 208
I agree that securing the borders of the Donbass will not solve the problems for the citizens of the DPR/LPR. Ukraine will just fire missiles and mortars into the Donbass borders until the Kingdom comes.
But de-Ukrainization sounds a lot like Genocide; is that what you want Putin to do? I would suggest that Russia, using a large numerical force, overwhelm Kiev, and other “decision making” locations. Then appoint temporary governments and put the presents NATO butt kissers in prison awaiting trial by military tribunal.

Posted by: Guernica | Sep 11 2022 20:17 utc | 363

@ Krištof | Sep 11 2022 20:17 utc | 366
yenwoda is out local version of liz truss.. not great with geography, lol… we have clowns and geography challenged individuals here too…

Posted by: james | Sep 11 2022 20:19 utc | 364

anon2020 | Sep 11 2022 20:10 utc | 359
There are videos of the missiles or at least the light from the engine plus the noise.
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1569022592467492871?cxt=HHwWjoCzyYPvpMYrAAAA
A number of videos and pictures at that twitter account which is generally reliable.
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 20:21 utc | 365

@348 Stop sending weapons and start sending generators
They will send weapons and generators.

Posted by: Tom UK | Sep 11 2022 20:23 utc | 366

@ James. Well then you might have to take out half a dozen. But decapitation is what it will take. In the long run it will be cheaper.

Posted by: davidgmillsatty | Sep 11 2022 20:25 utc | 367

Posted by: Tbx | Sep 11 2022 16:23 utc | 208
Posted by: Guernica | Sep 11 2022 20:17 utc | 367
If Russia was serious from day one (back in 2014) they should have cut the frigging gas off!
They could do it any day now …
No gas for ukraine, no gas for Europe and perish the morons!
There never was a need for ‘SMO” or “military technical measures” …
Cut-off the darn gas (please)!

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Sep 11 2022 20:26 utc | 368

@Krištof #366, I mean territories north of the Dnipro in Kherson oblast, where Russia maintains a substantial presence despite degraded supply lines. Between the river delta and Kakhova – north of there.

Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 11 2022 20:26 utc | 369

Posted by: Tom UK | Sep 11 2022 19:43 utc | 341
Serbia also had a functioned army.
Of course Serbian Army was far far away from sophiscated weapon systems like the Ukraine army but managed outnumbered to shot down F-117 with a SA-3 Goa (surface air rocket from 1960)
Nato airforce was not able to harm serbian army at all. If i remember good they only could hit one tank. One tank!? All destroyed tanks were dummy tanks.
Not to imagine if the Serbs would have only 10% of the Ukraine arms equipment or more sophiscated anti air defense
Anyhow NATO has stepped up targeting infrastructure and civilian objects.
Serbs were without light, air conditon, heating, water, fuel…..
Life became every day more and more difficult
resentments spread out through the country and reached soldiers in army and politicians.
Their president surrendered not because of Nato but because of fear anti-government rallies to overturn it.
Whatever you might say -it was a successful Nato operation to take out key infrastructure and strategic civilian objects like power plants,….

Posted by: Tiroler | Sep 11 2022 20:32 utc | 370

Yenwonda the supply lines from USA and Britain to east Ukraine is also degraded

Posted by: Ohhcanada | Sep 11 2022 20:32 utc | 371

A current propagand headline “Putin, Macron trade blame over Ukraine nuclear plant security”
That was the Subject of a recent phonme call between Putin and Macron.
Russia have tried to get a UN response to Ukraine’s shelling of the NPP and also Europe. If the was an incident, radioactive fallout could easily end up in Europe so it is in their interest to stop Ukraine. This has not occurred. What we are seeing now is Russia’s response after all else has failed.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 20:34 utc | 372

US and UK are calling for a long war, lets clear out the Ukrainian Army’s human shields and have this war.

Posted by: Eduardo | Sep 11 2022 20:40 utc | 373

Surprise, people don’t like being invaded and occupied. They don’t like cluster bombs falling on bread lines in their city streets or cruise missiles blasting into apartment buildings. They don’t like curfews, deprivations, or having their phones checked for signs of “nationalism”. They don’t like their neighbors getting “disappeared”. Even if the oppressors speak the barely-majority language of the area.”
Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 11 2022 18:31 utc | 288
Cheese Wize Yenwoda has describe exactly what the UAF and the Nazi brigades were doing to the people of the Donbass right after they couped the legitimate president of Ukraine. For eight years the dirty bastards did exactly what you describe to the Russian speaking people of the Donbass.
I wonder if (it?) believes that the people of the DPR and LPR, after being treated as she described should be allowed to declare independence from such a shit eating government as Ukraine has proven to be post US/NATO coup 2014?

Posted by: Guernica | Sep 11 2022 20:41 utc | 374

@ davidgmillsatty | Sep 11 2022 20:25 utc | 371
i see the futility in that approach myself… the centers to take out are usa-uk, but we haven’t got that far just yet… hopefully we don’t either.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Sep 11 2022 20:42 utc | 375

@ Guernica | Sep 11 2022 20:41 utc | 379
i immediately thought of his beloved nazis in ukraine, but i am sure that skipped his mind.. for that part he is completely blind… but okay – since you’ve posted guernica – you read my mind.. cheers…

Posted by: james | Sep 11 2022 20:44 utc | 376

I do enjoy your writing MoA, but this is an inaccurate comment:
“Stalin was also right. In the end the Soviet Union simply outproduced the German Reich and its allies in nearly everything – tanks, airplanes, cannons, ammunition, fuel, food and soldiers – which enabled its victory. (The much propagandized U.S. role in this was historically a mere sideshow.)”
Here is an excellent article to educate your self
https://www.rferl.org/a/did-us-lend-lease-aid-tip-the-balance-in-soviet-fight-against-nazi-germany/30599486.html

Posted by: Charlie | Sep 11 2022 20:47 utc | 377

Someday the anti-American, dictator loving “b” will wake up and smell the coffee. His beloved Russia is doomed.

Posted by: Muthaucker | Sep 11 2022 20:49 utc | 378

Posted by: Guernica | Sep 11 2022 20:17 utc | 367
But de-Russianation doesnt only sounds like Genocide IT IS already DAILY PRACTCSE since 2014 and are becoming more and more every day
is that what you want Putin to accept?
trial by military tribunal is only kind of cirkus and will only make of the nato but kisser a martyr.
Better take them out and life goes on without PR-martyr effect

Posted by: Tiroler | Sep 11 2022 20:53 utc | 379

“by and large, we have not started anything in earnest yet.”
Apparently Russians dropped cruise missiles on Ukrainian power plants and substations.
Maybe they are starting……

Posted by: Mars | Sep 11 2022 20:56 utc | 380

I read that Ukraine is targeting (presumably with HIMARS) electricity infrastructure in the Donbas region. A USA tactic. Then when Russia goes after electricity infrastructure in Ukrainian territory, people ask why. I think the two events are related.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 11 2022 20:56 utc | 381

so blackout for a lot of cities with a lot of wounded uaf… wow lets see how the muricans gonna solve this :3

Posted by: Macpott | Sep 11 2022 20:57 utc | 382

I agree with the posters who point to Jhaji at 142 for a sterling comment, but I think that the next comment by Johnathon is also worth pondering.
Is Putin the judo master using the unsurpassed might and strength of the US at putting out PR, even if utter bullshit, to be swallowed by almost all of the west and an amazing percentage of the rest of the world, against them?
Is the Mighty Wurlitzer inadvertently playing a song requested by Russia? (“This one goes out to all the Nazi-lovers celebrating their Ramstein offensive victory tonight”).

Posted by: wagelaborer | Sep 11 2022 20:58 utc | 383

Russia must have millions of dumb artillery rounds.
> Posted by: Leroy | Sep 11 2022 17:05 utc | 232
If it’s still anything amounting to the reserve stock they had around the fall of the USSR you would be looking at anything between 6 – 10 million tonne recycling approximately .5 million tonne per year.
Also.. yeah. The russians used to weigh their artillery in terms of megatonne. A consequence of industrialisation I suppose.

Posted by: S.O. | Sep 11 2022 20:59 utc | 384

@375 Tiroler
Agreed. But this conflict is modern state vs modern state – it isn’t Serbia and it isn’t Syria. These are not NATO planes or troops. They are Ukrainian. Ukraine is essentially mobilised for war, so the civilian population is not going to pressure the Ukrainian leadership, they are going to blame Russia.
From their perspective, they have been invaded, shelled, and driven from the country in their millions. Going cold or sitting in darkness or rationing food is simply something else they will endure. When the entire country is in the same boat, it has the effect of galvanising people to work together and in this case unite against their common enemy – Russia and Putin.
It’s the London Blitz spirit in WWII.

Posted by: Tom UK | Sep 11 2022 20:59 utc | 385

anon2020 | Sep 11 2022 20:10 utc | 359
“Targeting railway power lines would be more in line with expectations, but targeting purely civilian power infrastructure and very hard-to-replace transformers doesn’t fit what we’ve seen so far from RF.”
It’s a tremendous improvement, isn’t it.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Sep 11 2022 20:59 utc | 386

The power outages will affect Moldova.
Just reported in DE Moldova is dark

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 11 2022 21:02 utc | 387

Macpott @388
The muricans care about wounded soldiers about as much as they care about the health and welfare of civilians.
That would be “not at all”.
As so many have pointed out, the murican way of war is to target civilian infrastructure first. Electricity, water, sewage systems, transportation, bridges, food siloes, etc.
As when they apply sanctions to uppity countries, they blithely announce that making civilians miserable or dead is part of their strategy for regime change.
They can do this because they control the msm and no one dares to point out that these are the statements and goals of psychopaths.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Sep 11 2022 21:04 utc | 388

james | Sep 11 2022 20:15 utc | 362
“you’re joking right?? taking out zelensky regime will mean it just gets replaced with another cia-mi6 puppet… think for a moment…”
Replacing any puppet takes time and effort. And Zelensky does seem to be especially well-suited to his role. Might not be so easy to replace with as good a role-player.
And besides, I thought the Ukrainian generals are supposed to be waiting for the right moment to overthrow the Kiev regime. Well if so, the decapitation would be the moment. That’s what the Valkyrie plotters were counting on.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Sep 11 2022 21:04 utc | 389

# 390
.
In 1985 I was able to visit such an ammunition depot in Novosibirsk as a military member of the GDR.
8 floors deep underground each floor estimated 12 000 m2 of ammunition stacked 4 meters high.
And as far as I know, that was one of about 27 camps in this, just this area!!!

Posted by: Mo3 | Sep 11 2022 21:07 utc | 390

Posted by: wagelaborer | Sep 11 2022 21:04 utc | 395
pure insanity… nicely said

Posted by: Macpott | Sep 11 2022 21:14 utc | 391

first, Tsar Putin “regrouped Russian forces” around Kiev. Now
he’s “regrouping Russian forces” along the entire Northeast Front. Pretty soon
he’ll be “regrouping Russian forces” in the Crimea. It’s long past time
for Tsar Putin to be removed and replaced by an actual Nationalist
who knows how to fight an un-limited war against globohomos
who recognize no limits.

Posted by: Haxo Angmark | Sep 11 2022 21:14 utc | 392

Your mind is black with movie violence. Real people have no desire for war.
Posted by: Mike | Sep 11 2022 19:28 utc | 334
That’s one of the most valid observations ever made since this situation began.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 11 2022 21:17 utc | 393

t | Sep 11 2022 21:02 utc | 394
No and you’re unlikely to hear from him for a while.

Posted by: Moabserver | Sep 11 2022 21:18 utc | 394

njet

No. Kadyrow says exactly the opposite.

Uh no

The leader of Russia’s Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, has expressed his dissatisfaction at the rapid withdrawal of the country’s troops from parts of Ukraine’s Kharkov Region, over the weekend.

https://swentr.site/russia/562601-chechen-leader-ukraine-retreat/

Posted by: Zanon | Sep 11 2022 21:20 utc | 395

Another electricity price hike for Europe?
Ursula von der Leyen
@vonderleyen
Jun 30
🇪🇺🇺🇦 Very glad to announce that as of today, Ukraine can export electricity to the EU market.
It will provide an additional source of electricity for the EU.
And much-needed revenues to Ukraine.
So we both benefit.
https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1542459370633584640?cxt=HHwWgICzsYKo9ecqAAAA

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 21:23 utc | 396

RT:
Ukraine suffers massive blackout after ‘Russian strikes’
Full blackouts have hit Kharkov and Donetsk regions, Zelensky said in a social media post, apparently referring to the Ukrainian-controlled part of Donetsk People’s Republic. Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk, Poltava, Zaporozhye and Odessa regions have been hit by partial blackouts, according to the president, who blamed the incident on “Russian terrorists.”

Posted by: nwwoods | Sep 11 2022 21:24 utc | 397

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 11 2022 21:23 utc | 406
Very glad to announce that as of today, Ukraine can export electricity to the EU market

This is like saying 1980’s Ethiopia just joined your food drive.

Posted by: ZX | Sep 11 2022 21:27 utc | 398

I fully support the war of liberation for the culturally Russian people in what today still is the Ukraine. However the possibility to mobilise Russian resources, to get the complete and unconditional support of the Russian people, and to overcome the fear of Ukrainians for occupation is that Russia is still a capitalist state with huge inequalities in income, wealth and power.
Socialists should call for nationalisation of the large enterprises in Russia. Why is Gazprom only for 50% owned by the state, meaning huge profits go to private investors? This is only an example.
When the bolsheviks overthrew capitalism in Russia, the where applauded and supported by workers all over the world.
So socialists should fight for socialist change in Russia and turn the war for national liberation and unification of the Russian people, important as it is on its own, into a revolutionary war against all forms of capitalism and imperialism.

Posted by: Ronald Portier | Sep 11 2022 21:27 utc | 399

@zanon (10). ” Another failure by Russia, after months holding the nuclear plant and not being able to protect it from ukrainian attacks, it has now to be shut down altogether”
Shutting down the ZNPP will deprive Ukraine of 20% of its electricity. That is more likely the reason for doing it, as opposed to an inability to protect it. Russia can still do much more to degrade Ukraine’s infrastructure.

Posted by: Rob | Sep 11 2022 21:31 utc | 400