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September 9, 2022
The Izium ‘Counteroffensive’ Success / Disaster

"It's a disaster," says Dima of the Military Summary channel.

I agree. The question now is: For whom?

Here is the map of the Izium region in the northeast of Ukraine on September 4.


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In the middle we can see the Oskol river flowing north to south. Along it run railway tracks and roads that connect Izium region at the bottom of the map with Urazovo in Russia (further north, not on the map).

Here is the situation in the same area on the morning of September 9.



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The Ukrainian forces have broken through the Russian positions on a wide front and in remarkable depth.

The above maps are from the Ukraine friendly site LiveUAmap. On the Russian side's map, as provided by Dima in his latest video, the Ukrainians are shown even further east and have reached the Oskol river.


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This is latest Rybar version of the map which confirms that the Ukrainian side has at least in part reached the river. They took the town of Senkovo on the western side of it.


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(German version as the English one does not load correctly.)

Izium, Lyman and several other important positions along the Izium front are now in imminent danger of losing their main supply route.

How could this happen?

Well, I am not in the Russian high command and have no idea of the how and why.

But what we know is that there were mostly conscripted men of the Luhansk Peoples Republic at the frontline when this episode started. The troops that held the town of Balakleya for two days where Russian National Guard forces. Those are militarized police units, not real armed forces. The Russian military had to send army forces to evacuate them.

Apparently the whole Russian front in that area was very thin and had too little artillery support. The Ukrainians moved extremely fast skipping towns and just blocking off local resistance to move on. They had a very significant number of tanks and armored transport as well as long range artillery support by several HIMARS systems. Many of the units must also have had night vision equipment as they did not stop even after sunset. There are also reports of strong foreign elements but those are hard to verify.

The LPR forces and whatever else was in the area had no chance. They were killed or captured or moved out.

The Russian side seems to have had little information about the size of the attack. The forces in the area were too few and too light. There should have been way more forces to block the Ukrainian move much earlier.

Then again – I do not know what plans the Russian military has had or might have. We might still see surprises.

Armored Russian reinforcements are now coming in from the north from the northern Kharkov region as well as from the east through Svatove. But they will still need some time to reach the front lines and to set up for battle.

The best countermove is likely to move the battle group seen in Svatove down to Izium and then up northwest and the group from the north southward in an attempt to pincer and envelope the Ukrainian forces.

Going this deep and this fast makes the attacking Ukrainian troops vulnerable. They will need some time to consolidate and to move up their artillery. Their supplies will have to come from Andivka on the left of the map and from Chuhuiv on the upper left. That are some 75 kilometer or 45 miles one way distances.

The Russian missile forces can interdict those routes by destroying the bridges along the way. They should do this as soon as possible. Andivka itself is surrounded by a river in the south, west and north. The handful of bridges over the river should also be dropped to cut the town off.

Ukrainian forces south of Izium and Lyman try to cross the Siversky Donets river to attack those cities from another direction. The idea is likely to bind the Russian forces there and to not let them move north to counter the upper Ukrainian strike.

There may be some ingenious Russian plan behind this to drag the Ukrainian forces in to then destroy them in place. But I do not see any evidence for that.

Heads will have to roll for this disaster.

Comments

Tony …investigate insulating spray on external renders. And or line every internal face of an external wall with those plasterboards that have insulating foam on one side.
Sorry to be off topic B.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 10 2022 15:58 utc | 501

Well, when does it begin? When officially “retired” NATO troops are rolling streaming down the highway towards Rostov?
Posted by: Tbx | Sep 9 2022 11:18 utc | 49
Waiting for winter…. The main front is geopolitical not local tactical.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 10 2022 16:06 utc | 502

There are similiarities to the battle of the bulge. the germans penetrated 50 miles into allied controlled territory, exploiting a front where the defences were weak. the offensive ended up being short lived, the germans lost a huge amount of tanks and other vehicles, and the territory taken was reclaimed a while later.

Posted by: Oh | Sep 10 2022 16:38 utc | 503

Seems clear to me (regardless what people say or believe) that Russia could blow up any air, Road, or RR access it wanted. Kind of like Lviv?
This could be IMO because it doesn’t choose to provoke a reaction? or because it’s not in the interests of Russia.
It also seems clear to me that if most anti-Russia forces are lured into a limited space and destroyed, that is better than simply blowing up everything like the US has tended to do? Heck – If nothing else it seems economical? Ukraine and NATO/West seem to be doing just fine.
I keep thinking of Putin in Judo Gi and of bar fights and how they are different.
There is also a clear difference between the time-limited goals of a sporting event and some contest that has no limit and that is more a lifestyle ?
I assume it’s obvious that the US (West/NATO) is encouraging rash, immediate behavior, and escalation.
At least a lot people are. I’d prefer to see adult conversation and negotiation rather than a bar fight.
Seems if people don’t think the conflict has been gamed out many times by very astute people on both sides.
It just occurred to me to think of the KISS (Keep it simple stupid) approach vs. the MISS approach (Make it simple stupid)?
Poker vs. Bridge or Chess?
If I was a poker player, I’d bet that the US is bluffing and that other people are betting on Russians (and others) following suit.

Posted by: Jim Elliot | Sep 10 2022 16:46 utc | 504

– Yesterday Apti estimated they managed to eliminate about 5,000 and today another 2,500. So, 25% in two days. At this rate the entire 30,000 will be KIA by September 15 or abouts.
The main objective that Putin has clearly stated is to completely, 100% demilitarize and denazify the Ukraine while minimizing own losses. What better way to do that other than trade some empty land for 30,000 neo-Nazis in the North and 10,000 in the South (near Kherson) in just 10 days?!
Posted by: RockTime | Sep 9 2022 17:24 utc | 234
BINGO!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 10 2022 17:33 utc | 505

Posted by: Naji Dahi | Sep 9 2022 17:43 utc | 248
“I speculate that its either a) Russia doesn’t have as many troops as we were lead to believe, b) there is conflict in the Russian leadership between those who think the war can be won with minimal amount of troops and those who want mass mobilization for an all out war, or c) it is just total incompetence within the Russian army leadership.”
d) this is a globalista managed war designed to precipitate collapse prior to Building Back Better.
Not saying I know or believe this but it is a possibility that fits much of the fact pattern.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 10 2022 17:39 utc | 506

So basically I agree with people here saying Russia did not commit enough.
Posted by: Random Mikuchan | Sep 9 2022 17:53 utc | 250
BUT: how many men and how much equipment has fallen to this counter offensive? Ukies are down by about 7,500 so far and heavy reinforcements just beginning to enter the fray so expect at least double that soon, ie 20,000 this week. How many RF losses? 500?1000? What have you read or what do you guesstimate? Do you think RF has lost more in this interchange?
I don’t know but I suspect it’s going to continue to be about 10 to 1 in RF’s favour.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 10 2022 17:45 utc | 507

Posted by: Nico | Sep 9 2022 19:18 utc | 293
“I think it is time to give up the term SMO because it has been a simmering big war for months now.”
Disagree. If this was war then DC and London would have been bombed to bits by now. And much more. RF is keeping kinetics within Ukraine for now. If it escalates to full declaration of war, that will include decision centers much farther afield.
There will not be war. We have a Reset to get through…

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 10 2022 18:07 utc | 508

scorpion @514
d) this is a globalista managed war designed to precipitate collapse prior to Building Back Better
agree and that’s why russia has to win. we must collapse first or at least be set back enough from losing that the rest of the sane world has time to build a monetary system first, and then begin the long process of growth.
the rest of the world is well aware that the earth needs tending, even as they emerge from uncle sam’s torture chambers. i’d much rather take my chances with them than spend one more minute under these murderous davos types who don’t want us to own anything, much less a business, want us to eat synthetic and gmo awfulness. basically want us to die so they can become the AI they love so much. i’d rather die in a climate chaos disaster than live under theirs.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Sep 10 2022 20:38 utc | 509

the theme, “russia is so desperate that any minute now they will use nuclear weapons” is fed by nato/west powers.
it’s ukraine that’s been shelling the npp and the west has been looking for a way to pull off a credible false flag. the more “desperate” the public thinks putin is, the easier to blame their violence on putin.
anything nuclear is on the west, idc what the hell they say.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Sep 10 2022 20:59 utc | 510

Summasummarum zum Friedensvorschlag:
 Wenn man nicht einmal die Beteiligten kennt, kann man keine Vorschläge machen. Wenn man aber nicht einmal die Ziele der Beteiligten kennt „…(wir werden Russland ruinieren…“), geht jeder Vorschlag völlig daneben.
 Ein Friedensangebot ist überflüssig, der Westen will keinen Frieden, Russland hätte nur unwesentlich Aufschub bis zur nächsten Attacke.
Entweder die Außenministerin bekommt ihren Wunsch erfüllt und dann geht es gegen China, danach fehlt dummerweise ein weiterer Gegner, sodass der Totalcrash des Westens nicht mit einem nächsten Krieg hinausgezögert werden kann.
Oder Russland gewinnt und der überwiegende Teil der Menschheit, der Nicht-Westen, gewinnt einige Jahrzehnte Lebenssicherheit, bis sie sich selbst nach altbewährtem Menschheitsmuster an die Gurgel gehen. Das kann dann dem Westen egal sein, der kriegt in seinem Steinzeitleben eh nicht mehr viel mit vom wahren Leben, aus dem er sich gerade selbst verabschiedet.
In beiden Fällen schreibt der Sieger den Vertrag und der Verlierer unterschreibt ihn in der Hoffnung auf spätere Revanche.
 So abgrundtief unmenschlich, wie die Menschheit sich von der Obrigkeit behandeln lässt, ist die Hölle unausweichlich, nur wann wir im Fegefeuer landen wird unterschiedlich sein – die Deutschen sind im Augenblick ganz weit vorn: mit Preisexplosion, ohne Industrie und ohne Energieversorgung. Zu Recht bekommen sie nicht einmal Mitleid.

Posted by: rote Socke | Sep 14 2022 0:31 utc | 511