Rekindling Its Iraq WMD Fiasco The New York Times Is Back At Printing ‘Officials Said’

September 24, 2022

Rekindling Its Iraq WMD Fiasco The New York Times Is Back At Printing ‘Officials Said’

At first I wondered why the New York Times homepage editor would put a piece about Putin and his alleged involvement in war strategy under 'U.S. Politics'.

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But after reading

As Russian Losses Mount in Ukraine, Putin Gets More Involved in War Strategy

I understand the qualification.

Some quotes:

President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has […], American officials said, …

American officials briefed on highly sensitive intelligence said …

… his involvement has created tensions, American officials said.

The officials said …

…, Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in an interview on Friday.

… is to both sides, American officials said.

Some American officials said they saw trouble ahead …

A senior U.S. official said this week …

…could eventually be threatened, American officials said.

Senior Russian officers repeatedly questioned […], American officials said, …

The Russian officers believed […], American officials said.

… focused on massive artillery barrages, American officials said.

… hit by Ukrainian fire, Ukrainian officials said.

… said Seth G. Jones, senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

… said Michael Kofman, director of Russia studies at CNA, a defense research institute in Arlington, Va.

…, U.S. officials say Mr. Putin believes …

… American officials have said that Mr. Putin has not been given accurate information …

Mr. Putin, an American official said, has opposed …

…, American officials said Russian officers themselves are divided …

Adding up we have:

anonymous American/U.S. official/s [said/have said/say]: 15 times,
named American semi-officials (Jones, Kofman): 2 times,
a named American official (Milley): 1 time,
anonymous Ukrainian officials: 1 time.

There are no other sources in the piece.

Would you believe that it took 4 (FOUR) NYT 'reporters', Julian E. Barnes, Helene Cooper, Eric Schmitt and Michael Schwirtz, to stenograph that nonsense?

A lot of anonymous American officials said that the U.S. was winning its wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. Anonymous American officials said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. The NYT printed all those false claims without providing evidence for their veracity.

There was some agonizing after the Iraq WMD claims turned out to be false. The NYT and other media promised to do better and to restrict the use of anonymous sources:

Under our guidelines, anonymous sources should be used only for information that we think is newsworthy and credible, and that we are not able to report any other way.
…
We understand readers’ wariness, but many important stories in sensitive areas like politics, national security and business could never be reported if we banned anonymous sourcing. Sources often fear for their jobs or business relationships — sometimes even for their safety.

Those anonymous American officials quoted in the above NYT piece are distributing 'newsworthy' and 'credible' information? Even some they very obviously have no way to obtain ('Mr. Putin believes …')? They must be fearing for their jobs and safety when they reveal the secrets of Putin's believes to those assiduous NYT 'reporters'?

Or its all just another bunch of lies. Not only what the American officials say but also what the NYT claims to be. The above piece is not the result of journalism by independent media but the outcome of intense collaboration between a quasi state organ and the Biden administration. It is an information operation waged against its own people and propaganda for a real war waged against Russia.

Why do they expect anyone to pay for this dreck?

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‼️🇪🇺 NATO is running out of T-72s — Military Watch Magazine
Western countries have almost run out of stocks of T-72 tanks, so they have to transfer combat vehicles based on the T-55 to Ukraine, for which the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have ammunition. It is specified that at the moment NATO intends to supply Kyiv with Slovenian M-55 tanks, built on the basis of the Soviet T-55. These vehicles are equipped with a NATO-standard 105mm cannon, for which Ukraine has no ammunition.
So Ukraine and ex Warsaw Pact inventories have been emptied of T-72’s which were the de-facto backbone of armored forces. T-55 is designed just at the end of WW2.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2022 11:29 utc | 301

@ njet 299
Stupidity and arrogance. US and UK are stupid and require IS to teach them war by deception. Jesus peace be upon him arrived first time round at a time that the Chosen People were doing wonderful trade between the polytheists of Asia and the polytheists of Europe. Those , like now, were boom times.
And this annoying guy turns up armed with some extremely irritating miracles to tell them that they were compromising their integrity by copying the ways and ideas of the non- believers.
Similarly in today’s superfluity of energy, of manufactured goods and cheap credit it must be so infuriating to have Putin and Lavrov lecturing about the basic ground rules of respecting the sovereignty of nations and abuding by International Law.
WTFAY to lecture us about Imperialism and colonisation? WTFAY to lecture us about 24/7 spying to control your citizens?
Who are you to threaten our colonisation of the planet with your superior hypersonic weapons?
I really believe USUKIS is stupid and arrogant enough to use a mininuke against RF in Ukraine. If they do, there will be no more Western banking system, just craters as deep as the skyscrapers are high.
I was so happy when the Twin Towers were flattened. If they are stupid and arrogant enough to use minonukes, the whole of Western Finance will be a ground zero hole. Nobody can say they haven’t been warned.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 25 2022 11:55 utc | 302

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2022 11:29 utc | 301

So Ukraine and ex Warsaw Pact inventories have been emptied of T-72’s which were the de-facto backbone of armored forces. T-55 is designed just at the end of WW2.

I wonder if we might soon see Abrahams series and Leopard series tanks in significant numbers on the battlefields of Ukraine …
Would the MIC actually risk the sight of hundreds of American and German tanks destroyed on the battlefield?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 11:57 utc | 303

Posted by: Fnord73 | Sep 25 2022 11:14 utc | 300

Meanwhile, Lymansk is falling.

Lymanske is an urban-type settlement in Rozdilna Raion of Odesa Oblast in Ukraine. It is located along the east side of the Kuchurhan Reservoir on the border with Transnistria in Moldova. Wikipedia
Nobody gives a shit about “Lymansk”.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 12:02 utc | 304

I’ll try and expand on this in posts to come.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:28 utc | 259
Fantastic piece, great structure. Agree with Guyane to add spiritual dimension or if you prefer moral and legal. They are taking the high ground. They do what they say. They are exposing lies and hypocrisy. In a way this is the key or ultimate battlefield for the Bank$ter hegemony depends principally on people being cowed into accepting their preeminence, bowing down to their imposed materialistic precepts, their version of reality, of success, of what matters.
Putins style as statesman and leader is extremely unusual in how he emphasizes legality and morality. I think if you added this into your list it will fill out the other dimensions quite nicely.
Again, a terrific post, thank you.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 25 2022 12:11 utc | 305

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 5:43 utc | 260
Another gem. Must be the stars. Or these historic referenda. Great post. These things need to be spelled out more and named else we go mad dwelling ever in the satanic vocabularies of confabulated obfuscation!
(Imagine: Territorial acquisition by expressed wish of the people. What a concept, eh? What further geopolitical tremors will it send through already shifting global tectonics? Interesting times indeed.)

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 25 2022 12:22 utc | 306

The old adage “turnabout makes fair play” may apply in this situation. The collective Western media will howl to the highest heavens over the “outrage”, but their puppets in Kiev set this ball in motion….
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 6:24 utc | 268
Hmmm…sounds like ‘do unto others as they would do unto you!’
Yes, we shall see. One other thing I hope for: a UN Resolution condemning Western support of the genocide perpetrated against the people in the 4 oblasts and a Memorandum of Self Censure by the UNSC for failing to live up to their charter. If these don’t pass then the SCO members should quit the entire charade and form a better version. NOT based in Jew York!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 25 2022 12:34 utc | 307

If these don’t pass then the SCO members should quit the entire charade and form a better version. NOT based in Jew York!

That’s #23 on the list at post 276 (with some variation)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 12:46 utc | 308

Posted by: Oui | Sep 25 2022 9:55 utc | 295
Am forlornly and lusciously in love with
lovely Eva Lotte Louise Vlaardingerbroek!
There! I just had to get that off my chest!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 25 2022 12:51 utc | 309

That’s #23 on the list at post 276 (with some variation)
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 12:46 utc | 309
I hadn’t got there yet.
My, you Are very productive! Thanks again.
I mean: when’s the last time I read such good stuff in a mainstream publication? Cannot recall…

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 25 2022 12:58 utc | 310

Paul Greenwood 291
Wallace days today military will get an increase of 52 billion…to get to 3 percent GDP spending.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 25 2022 13:00 utc | 311

Meanwhile, Lymansk is falling. Do you folks notice at all how the west is not panicking? A central part of Putins rhetoric is that we will not survive a cold winter. I think we will, and with style. And that russian mobilization is a joke, seriously, all the alcoholics go first.
Posted by: Fnord73 | Sep 25 2022 11:14 utc | 301

I have seen pundits say the winter will be tough for Europe. I haven’t seen Putin say it. Europeans may survive the winter in much colder houses, but we are already seeing some factories closing due to the cost of electricity or natural gas. I think they will survive “with pain” rather than “with style”.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 25 2022 13:08 utc | 312

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 25 2022 1:59 utc | 231
I want to address Sean’s harsh characterisations of Pepe Escobar’s journalism and of PE as a journalist. I do this because b’s post is about journalism and a lot of posters have had a lot to say about journalism. Although most of it written and stated in many forms many times over the years.
Pepe Escobar has his own style, which one may like or not. I prefer clear and clean journalism more. He is usually well informed, and credible.
The problem I see, and here I agree with Sean, is that he does not always, or often, cite his sources, a very basic requirement of good journalism. He states things (like in the piece Sean has criticised) expecting to be be believed, just because he said these things. He takes the trust his readers have in him for granted. In true journalism, one of the fundamental rules is: even if your mother told you, check it. Therefore, it is essential to provide the sources that you as a journalist have checked, and that will allow me, as the reader, to also check.Sources, the basis of any conclusions, absolute clarity as to who, where, what, when and how.

Posted by: JB | Sep 25 2022 13:14 utc | 313

Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:28 utc | 260
« « Dimension 4: The Diplomatic
– OPEC+ : Development of good relations with the Gulf Oil Producers including Saudi Arabia
– Foundation and development of the CSTO
– Foundation and development of the SCO
– Development of close relations with China, India, Iran and African, South American, Central Asian states … e.g via regular and consistent conduct of Military exercises with China and India
– Rapprochement with groups like the Taliban and Hamas and other groups considered “pariah” by the West » »
Another tiny suggestion –In addition to the military dimension of the Syria conflict, add the long term diplomacy with Erdogan Turkey : surely the most difficult, or obviously difficult, and successful exercise in subtle patience, military diplomatic and economic, on the level of the Ukraine cauldron

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 13:17 utc | 314

When I was in US Air Force basic training in 1969, there were separate units for obese recruits that forced them to lose a lot of weight.

Posted by: Lysias | Sep 25 2022 14:02 utc | 315

Re: Scorpion | Sep 25 2022 12:51 utc | 310
What can I say, plenty of upsides. Eva and paradise … enjoy!

Posted by: Oui | Sep 25 2022 14:14 utc | 316

Another tiny suggestion –In addition to the military dimension of the Syria conflict, add the long term diplomacy with Erdogan Turkey : surely the most difficult, or obviously difficult, and successful exercise in subtle patience, military diplomatic and economic, on the level of the Ukraine cauldron
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 13:17 utc | 315
Agree. I think perhaps people under-appreciate how useful Putin & Erdogan have been to each other, and how much that relationship was Putin’s doing. Erdo has been a wonderfully handy cats-paw for Putin at times. He drives Uncle Sugar nuts.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 25 2022 14:24 utc | 317

Bemildred | Sep 25 2022 14:24 utc | 318
From a errant nuisance and maverick he has been gradually drawn into a crafted construct of playing two sides against eachother, to a deeper understanding and improved exploitation of the basics of his and his country’s position and strengths, very usually to the advantage of one side and to the dismay of the other, while leaving him free to show off with outrageous statements in all directions to please the homecrowd by his fireworks of valiant showmanship and independence
And – icing on the cake – to make a pass when nobody else will at speaking the truth to those who wish and want anything but, but can not deny it/him (his NATO play)
PP has also worked towards a similar education of those in a similar position, Salman in SA, and towards introducing Iran to larger dimensions to their resistance : both in some kind of parallel play with China

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 14:53 utc | 318

Paul Greenwood | Sep 25 2022 9:00 utc | 289
So you believe that what’s “acceptable” should be the standards for international financial arrangements? and that they improve over time?
Right, Wrong, Morality have all been decided in the past?
I assume you are engaged in the financial industry currently and possibly depend on it or believe in it?
I could be totally wrong and suggest clarity?

Posted by: Jim Elliot | Sep 25 2022 15:01 utc | 319

archbungle@277
Man, you’ve really put some time and effort into this. The presentation is at the level of many intel agencies.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 15:02 utc | 320

@Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 8:39 utc | 287
« 32. Development of offshore banking solutions to compete with those offered by Switzerland, Cayman, Isle of Man, Guernsey etc. »
Why not one of those in between status in determined Caspian or Black Sea mini semi-states?
Absolutely. Crimea comes to mind. Sakhalin. Perhaps even Svalbard (caveats apply).
Svalbard for offshore banking? Nice thought, but it does not seem realistic. Svalbard (a.k.a. Spitsbergen) is under Norwegian sovereignty according to the Svalbard Treaty. Norway is a NATO country.
Article 1
The High Contracting Parties undertake to recognize, subject to the stipulations of the present Treaty, the full and absolute sovereignty of Norway over the Archipelago of Spitsbergen, comprising, with Bear Island of Beeren-Eiland, all the islands situated between 10° and 35° longitude East of Greenwich and between 74° and 81° latitude North, especially West Spitsbergen, North-East Land, Barents Island, Edge Island, Wiche Islands, Hope Island or Hopen-Eiland, and Prince Charles Forland, together with all islands great or small and rocks appertaining thereto. (See annexed map)
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2022 9:15 utc | 293
<=This appears to be part of the long term strategic planning of the RF. Something the west is desperately trying to undermine ... <=Its really simple to fix the offshore banking problem,, just tax the assets vested in the monopoly powers that produce private wealth (Patents, copyrights, state franchises to privateers, state contracts to privateers, trademarks and the like) and remove from the books taxation of citizens based on their incomes.. overnight the reason for offshore banking disappears.

Posted by: snake | Sep 25 2022 15:14 utc | 321

Deanna Spingola is the author of “The Ruling Elite: The Zionist Seizure of World Power” 2012 Trafford Publishing. It may well be out of print as it perhaps should have been printed on asbestos paper. Trafford.com Toll-free# 1-888-232-4444. Good luck with this. Of all the books I’ve read on the totality of the subject, this one is #1, a volume of a mere 737 pages.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 6:47 utc | 273

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 25 2022 7:01 utc | 274
It is available in PDF format on archive.org, as are a lot of other contentious and suppressed materials.
https://archive.org/details/deanna-spingola-the-ruling-elite-the-zionist-seizure-of-world-power

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 25 2022 15:16 utc | 322

Posted by: njet | Sep 25 2022 11:14 utc | 300
its Julian Macfarlane, not Brian. Sorry.

Posted by: njet | Sep 25 2022 15:19 utc | 323

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 13:17 utc | 315

Another tiny suggestion –In addition to the military dimension of the Syria conflict, add the long term diplomacy with Erdogan Turkey : surely the most difficult, or obviously difficult, and successful exercise in subtle patience, military diplomatic and economic, on the level of the Ukraine cauldron

I wanted to add this but my head exploded. I don’t know what to make of Erdogan, he appears useful at times and downright malevolent at others. I mean, he can’t even be deposed or removed without hazard to Russia, and yet he is clearly a pain in the ass for Putin on occasion.
Still mulling it over …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 15:23 utc | 324

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 15:02 utc | 321
The relations are somewhat flat, one dimensional, it remains to list out the permutations and combinations that could arise, and offset against the caveats. Once that’s done one could bring in the role of Time to determine what kind of timing would need to be considered in the application of those combinations of options …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 15:26 utc | 325

Here Russia will have to make a decision: To greatly open up and commercialise their weapons industry in order to achieve economies of scale (with it’s attendant risks) or to try and achieve massive scale of weapons production in the same way the USSR did (with all it’s consequences).
Russia will have to adopt a totally new marketing, co-development and sales doctrine in order to expand it’s arms industry without bankrupting itself in the process i.e Rank Capitalism. In doing this the Russian State runs the risk of falling prey to it’s own military industrial complex as well as losing some of it’s intellectual property and technology secrets.
On the other hand, automation and other technologies for mass production have advanced significantly in recent times. The Russian Federation may be far more capable of mass producing arms than the USSR was.
What’s certain is that to achieve the correct industrial scale it cannot adopt the unsustainable methods used by the USSR to support it’s military capabilities. Some degree of sustainability through profit motive is needed …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 7:53 utc | 283

I’d imagine that neither Russia nor the rest of the world (that is, the nations who wish to participate in multi-polarity) want her to be the world’s policeman or the the world’s arms supplier.
In that spirit, perhaps other countries will cultivate expertise in selected military hardware or software, as Iran has done with drone technology. As foreign suppliers of military material become viable, Russia could scale down her development and manufacturing in those areas and thereby make more of her federal budget available for purposes that directly benefit the citizenry.
Another factor is that if the ability of the New World Disorder crowd to fabricate conflict diminishes, the rest of the world’s military needs would be reduced somewhat.

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 25 2022 15:38 utc | 326

Arch Bungle @ 259,277
Thanks for taking the time to analyze and synthesize the 6-D chess game up to this point and forecast it into the future. There are points to nitpick, caveats to make, and ideas to add…but I’ll not ruin the moment. You’ve provided much to ruminate. Impressive.

Posted by: Objective Observer | Sep 25 2022 15:40 utc | 327

Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 15:23 utc | 325
‘A pain in the arse’ who is worth it in spades, there’s a lot worse than nether irritation – President Putin can employ the errant outbursts and provocative gestures and not rise the bait ; but to use them as simply another aspect of negotiating tactics – he takes a dry eyed view of Erdogan as evidently he does of most
PP knows that the USEU are incapable of dispassion, as fretting ideologues Erdogan trespasses and tramples on their sacred truths of democracy bla bla, they have’nt got a clue
PP puts to work every Erdogan outrage as simply more grist to the mill – one side can handle him and a find an ever more significant lucrative and powerful place for him and his country come what may; but the other can only yap, threaten, back down ; can never offer nothing of any consequence (as per the generations wasted on EU membership)
I’d say he’s perfect – he’s in no one’s pocket, he’s friend to nobody, he amplifies all that can go wrong, he says what no one never will, he throws off dares every which way – but

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 16:06 utc | 328

“Why do they expect anyone to pay for this dreck?”
I don’t have to b. I let you all wade through that trash and generally I will see a synopsis of anything relevant here.
I’m an algorithm.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 25 2022 16:12 utc | 329

Posted by: Popcorn | Sep 24 2022 12:06 utc | 49
Popcorn – at one point Voxday used to have some interesting ideas, but he seems to have lost his mind around the 2016 election. Voxday fully embraced the Qanon nonsense, and has been a propagator of fake news ever since.
It’s sad. I’m not sure what what happened. Perhaps he’s being paid to spread disinformation. Maybe he’s mentally ill. Whatever the case, his blog is worthless as a source of information.

Posted by: Jake Roberts | Sep 25 2022 17:22 utc | 330

Someone here wrote “MOA is like an oasis” (in a desert of lies and deception) … I agree.
Another provider of intellectual and moral relief (from nauseating press-parrotts and disgusting politicians) is Scott Ritter. (I watch his videos on rumble). The man has stood up against the BIG LIE in Iraq, (now is telling the truth about Ukraine) and has suffered severe consequences.
He was harrassed and threatened by the FBI and as a result of a (heinous) fraudulent (sex-crime) charge he was sentenced to prison but released on parole after 3 years.
He is not entitled to a pension (now being 61 yrs old) and has to worry about earning enough money (together with his Georgian wife) to pay the bills, till he dies.
It is very sad and disturbing to see how really “brave” Americans who fight for truth and justice, and to uphold the constitution, even if it means paying a high price – are being treated in the “greatest country” and “leader of the free world”.
As Harold Pinter said in his – monumental – Nobel Prize speech:
“You’ve got to hand it to the Americans (he talked about the US crimes against humanity in Latin America and later in Iraq and said “even while it was happening, it did not matter” …all these crimes are real but since nobody is allowed to talk about them (as if they never happened) it allows the US “to pose as a moral force for good”. (Of course Pinter was vilified for saying that..)
Incredibly, (after the unspeakable terror of McJihad in Syria) they still pretend to be a moral authority and hand out judgements (as “sanctions” or wars) while the spineless and stupid EU vassals applaud and join the arrogant club of self-righteousness (to the point of economic self-distruction: Ursula von der Leyen: “We simply have to do it” (yeah, this comes straight from the Milgram experiment and Ursula has no qualms about applying “electric shocks” to EU citizens)
They have raised Nazi-batallions in Ukraine and the Baltic states, (following in the footsteps of “Gladio”) incited hatred against Russia(ns) – even in school-children -, enlarged NATO eastwards, falsified WW II history (turning Ukrainian war-criminals and Nazi-collaborators like Bandera into national heroes):
https://carlbeckpapers.pitt.edu/ojs/index.php/cbp/article/view/164
… but they are the masters of “cognitive warfare” and this is the point the Russians do not grasp …the defensive character of this military operation (now becoming a war) is being “disappeared” (just like Pinter said) and constant demonization of Putin and (24/7 media saturation with) “Russian aggression” turns reality on its head…

Posted by: Altheia | Sep 25 2022 17:37 utc | 331

Maybe this is appropriate time and place to recall Carl Bernstein’s Rolling Stone article on the ties between the MSM and the CIA. This before the NED.

Posted by: Rcw | Sep 25 2022 21:15 utc | 332

Seems I left out the URL: https://www.carlbernstein.com/the-cia-and-the-media-rolling-stone-10-20-1977.

Posted by: Rcw | Sep 25 2022 21:16 utc | 333

Posted by: Rcw | Sep 25 2022 21:16 utc | 334
There seems to be a stray period at the end of the link. This should fix it.

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 25 2022 21:35 utc | 334

@33 Gerrard White
You need to wake TF up buddy! You have NO clue what is going on over there and no clue as to what you are saying. You’re a troll that has infiltrated this discussion with your smarmy holier-than-thou comments. STOP posting here!

Posted by: marty | Sep 26 2022 0:21 utc | 335

@33 Dakota Rog and @41 Jack, re: Please don’t confuse US gov with ordinary Americans. Italian author “Manlio Dinucci reminds us that whatever the sympathy we may have for the people of the United States,
their country
is still the main predator of humanity.
We can in no circumstance claim to share their “values.””…7/31/2019…https://www.voltairenet.org/article207179.html

Posted by: susan mullen | Sep 26 2022 0:45 utc | 336

@ Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 16:06 utc | 329
Erdogan said he would block Sweden and Finland becoming NATO members if they didn’t change their stance on Kurdish separatists. Big words but then he approved it all of the sudden.

Posted by: GoverntheMente | Sep 26 2022 1:16 utc | 337

What’s certain is that to achieve the correct industrial scale it cannot adopt the unsustainable methods used by the USSR to support it’s military capabilities. Some degree of sustainability through profit motive is needed …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 7:53 utc | 283
I hope that Russia will never go down that track. I believe that increading support of warmongering would be the end of their culture just as in the USA.

Posted by: K | Sep 26 2022 2:28 utc | 338

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:46 utc | 264
re your summary:
I have a question about off shore tax havens. Are they not the means by which oligarchs can hide their wealth? I am certain such a mechanism would not be allowed in a true socialist system. Or is there another use for them which is not illegal?
And I have only one small point to make: I don’t think it’s Putin behind everything as you suggest. I think he is a unique person and a visionary but I do not think he is acting without support and input from a trusted and possibly large team. I think attributing all the positives to one man inevitably supports those who attribute all the negatives to him.
Overall thanks for your intelligent summary.

Posted by: K | Sep 26 2022 3:05 utc | 339

I’m a bit disquieted to see QAnon being dismissed as conspiracy-nut stuff (not that it isn’t) while at the same time no one has mentioned the growing presence on MoA of the “Jews run the world” meme without anyone challenging it. b should reflect on the fact that it’s standard practice among those whose goal is to discredit a discussion space to seed it with anti-Semitic comments.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Sep 27 2022 12:03 utc | 340

I’m a bit disquieted to see QAnon being dismissed as conspiracy-nut stuff…
Posted by: Gene Poole | Sep 27 2022 12:03 utc | 341

I’m a bit disquieted to see MoA posters use vacuous labels like “conspiracy nut” and “conspiracy theory,” which condition the reader to impulsively reject what is being put forward rather than using reason.

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 27 2022 12:46 utc | 341

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