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September 24, 2022
Rekindling Its Iraq WMD Fiasco The New York Times Is Back At Printing ‘Officials Said’

At first I wondered why the New York Times homepage editor would put a piece about Putin and his alleged involvement in war strategy under 'U.S. Politics'.


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But after reading

As Russian Losses Mount in Ukraine, Putin Gets More Involved in War Strategy

I understand the qualification.

Some quotes:

President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has […], American officials said, …

American officials briefed on highly sensitive intelligence said

… his involvement has created tensions, American officials said.

The officials said

…, Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in an interview on Friday.

… is to both sides, American officials said.

Some American officials said they saw trouble ahead …

A senior U.S. official said this week …

…could eventually be threatened, American officials said.

Senior Russian officers repeatedly questioned […], American officials said, …

The Russian officers believed […], American officials said.

… focused on massive artillery barrages, American officials said.

… hit by Ukrainian fire, Ukrainian officials said.

said Seth G. Jones, senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

said Michael Kofman, director of Russia studies at CNA, a defense research institute in Arlington, Va.

…, U.S. officials say Mr. Putin believes …

… American officials have said that Mr. Putin has not been given accurate information …

Mr. Putin, an American official said, has opposed …

…, American officials said Russian officers themselves are divided …

Adding up we have:

  • anonymous American/U.S. official/s [said/have said/say]: 15 times,
  • named American semi-officials (Jones, Kofman): 2 times,
  • a named American official (Milley): 1 time,
  • anonymous Ukrainian officials: 1 time.

There are no other sources in the piece.

Would you believe that it took 4 (FOUR) NYT 'reporters', Julian E. Barnes, Helene Cooper, Eric Schmitt and Michael Schwirtz, to stenograph that nonsense?

A lot of anonymous American officials said that the U.S. was winning its wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. Anonymous American officials said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. The NYT printed all those false claims without providing evidence for their veracity.

There was some agonizing after the Iraq WMD claims turned out to be false. The NYT and other media promised to do better and to restrict the use of anonymous sources:

Under our guidelines, anonymous sources should be used only for information that we think is newsworthy and credible, and that we are not able to report any other way.

We understand readers’ wariness, but many important stories in sensitive areas like politics, national security and business could never be reported if we banned anonymous sourcing. Sources often fear for their jobs or business relationships — sometimes even for their safety.

Those anonymous American officials quoted in the above NYT piece are distributing 'newsworthy' and 'credible' information? Even some they very obviously have no way to obtain ('Mr. Putin believes …')? They must be fearing for their jobs and safety when they reveal the secrets of Putin's believes to those assiduous NYT 'reporters'?

Or its all just another bunch of lies. Not only what the American officials say but also what the NYT claims to be. The above piece is not the result of journalism by independent media but the outcome of intense collaboration between a quasi state organ and the Biden administration. It is an information operation waged against its own people and propaganda for a real war waged against Russia.

Why do they expect anyone to pay for this dreck?

Comments

Today’s Clobber Report says 300 additional foreign fighters were eliminated, a sizeable number:
“Up to 300 militants were eliminated by a missile attack on the point of temporary deployment of foreign mercenaries in the area of the village of Kalinovka, Nikolayev Region,” the ministry’s spokesman, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov, announced during his daily briefing….
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 24 2022 18:15 utc | 149
On Sep 19th Russell ‘Texas’ Bentley, a US expat Russian citizen fighting for years with the DPR militia now on break from front line duty reported that he and his Spetsnaz buddies also in-theatre regard those MoD reports as total BS and refuse to read them any more.
Just sayin’

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 24 2022 22:20 utc | 201

Sanz no. 138
“Am I the one showing my ignorance and naviety when I think there is something very wrong with this narrative and Say “I don’t think so”?”
Not at all. I’m sure that evil, despicable Putin would have closed the borders and the airports at the first sign of exodus. (Sarcasm)
But i did read in Tass today that bankers, journalists and IT workers are exempt.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Sep 24 2022 22:21 utc | 202

Lavrov has delivered his UNGA Address. The opening paragraphs:
“Dear colleagues,
“Ladies and gentlemen,
“We meet in a difficult, dramatic moment. Crisis phenomena are growing and the international security situation is rapidly deteriorating.
“Instead of an honest dialogue and a search for compromises, we have to deal with disinformation, crude dramatizations and provocations. The West’s line undermines trust in international institutions as organs for the reconciliation of interests and in international law as a guarantee of justice and protection of the weak from arbitrariness. Negative trends in a concentrated form we observe in the walls of the UN, which appeared on the ruins of German fascism and Japanese militarism and was created with the aim of promoting the development of friendly relations between its members and preventing conflicts between them.
“Today, the question of the future of the world order is being decided – this is clear to any unbiased observer. The question is whether it will be an order with one hegemon forcing everyone to live by its proverbial “rules”, beneficial only to him. Or will it be a democratic, just world – without blackmail and intimidation of undesirables, without neo-Nazism and neocolonialism. Russia firmly chooses the second option. We call on us to work with allies, partners, and like-minded people to make it a reality.
“The unipolar model of world development, which served the interests of the “golden billion”, whose superconsumption for centuries was ensured by the resources of Asia, Africa and Latin America, is becoming a thing of the past. Today, the formation of sovereign states ready to defend national interests leads to the formation of an equal, socially-oriented and sustainable multipolar architecture. However, objective geopolitical processes are perceived by Washington and the ruling elites of Western countries that are completely subordinate to it as a threat to their dominant position.”
Here’s the UN Video link.
Wang Yi had also spoken for China, here.
I’ll now read all of what Lavrov said and perhaps comment further.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 24 2022 22:27 utc | 203

“American officials said” is the equivalent of “American liars said”.
There is a reason why a certain individual in Russia said that America is the Empire of Lies.

Posted by: ak74 | Sep 24 2022 22:32 utc | 204

karlof1 #203
It was a good Lavrov speech. I particularly appreciate they way he positions the UN – right under the spotlight for all nations to see.
The sole, haggard USA representative looked fit for malpurpose.
Meanwhile at Garland Nixon utoob site I see he has a new NIXON 2024 cap on the shelf behind his left shoulder 😉

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 24 2022 22:52 utc | 205

203 Cont’d–
Lavrov attacks like a prosecuting attorney devastatingly using the Truth, not lies like Biden. The difference will be noted by RoW. The following four paragraphs convict the defendents, the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals:
“The U.S. and its allies want to stop the flywheel of history. Once, having proclaimed victory in the Cold War, Washington elevated itself almost to the rank of messenger of the Lord God on Earth, who has no obligations, but only “sacred” rights to act with impunity – as well as anywhere else. Any state can be declared a zone of such actions – especially if it has not pleased the self-proclaimed “masters of the world” in some way. We all remember how, under far-fetched pretexts, aggressive wars were unleashed against Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya, far from the American shores, which claimed many hundreds of thousands of civilian lives. In any of these countries, have the legitimate interests of the West really been affected? Did they ban English or the languages of other NATO member countries, the Western media, culture? Did they declare the Anglo-Saxons “inhumans” and use heavy weapons against them? What are the results of US adventures in the Middle East? Improving human rights and the rule of law? Stabilization of the socio-political situation? Growth of well-being of the population? Name the country in which Washington intervened by force and where life has become better as a result.
“Trying to revive the unipolar model under the slogan of “rules-based order”, the West is imposing “dividing lines” everywhere in the spirit of bloc confrontation: “either with us or against us.” The third is not given, no compromises. Continuing the thoughtless course towards the expansion of NATO to the East, the approach of the military infrastructure of the bloc to the borders of Russia, now the United States has set the task of subordinating Asian spaces. At the June NATO summit in Madrid, what it calls a “defensive” alliance proclaimed the “indivisibility of euro-Atlantic and Indo-Pacific security.” Under the slogan of the Indo-Pacific strategies, closed formats are being created that undermine the entire open and inclusive regional architecture that has developed around ASEAN for decades. In addition, they started a “game with fire” around Taiwan, promising it military support.
“Obviously, the notorious “Monroe Doctrine” is gaining global reach. Washington is trying to turn the entire globe into its “backyard.” An instrument of coercion of dissenters is illegal unilateral sanctions, which for many years have been adopted in violation of the UN Charter and are used as an instrument of political blackmail. The cynicism of this practice is obvious. Restrictions hit the civilian population, preventing access to essential goods, including medicines, vaccines, food. The United States embargo against Cuba, which has lasted for more than 60 years, is a glaring example. The UN General Assembly has long and persistently demanded its immediate abolition by an overwhelming majority. The Secretary-General, whose responsibilities include promoting the implementation of the decisions of the General Assembly, should pay special attention to this problem. He also has a special role in mobilizing efforts to overcome the food and energy crises that broke out due to the uncontrolled money emission in the US and the EU during the pandemic and the irresponsible unprofessional actions of the European Union in the hydrocarbon markets. Contrary to elementary common sense, Washington and Brussels exacerbated the crisis situation by declaring an economic war against Russia. As a result, global prices for food, fertilizers, oil and gas are rising. We welcome the efforts of the Secretary General, which contributed to the conclusion of the Istanbul Agreements on July 22 this year. In the meantime, ships with Ukrainian grain for the most part do not go to the poorest countries, and the financial and logistical obstacles created by the United States and the EU on the way to Russian exports of grain and fertilizers have not been completely removed. We have been reminding for several weeks that 300,000 tonnes of fertilizers have been detained in European ports. For a long time we offer to transfer them free of charge to the needy countries of Africa, but the European Union does not react.
“Official Russophobia has acquired unprecedented, grotesque proportions in the West. They no longer hesitate to openly declare their intention not only to inflict a military defeat on our country, but also to destroy and dismember Russia. In other words, to achieve the disappearance from the political map of the world of too independent geopolitical magnitude.”
But the real mastery is in what follows–What did Russia do to deserve this abuse? One must ask, why did Russia and China see it necessary to form the Group of Friends in Defense of the UN Charter, and why isn’t the USA or any of its vassals members?
I’ll see what sort of parallels exist with Wang Yi’s address. I’ll post Lavrov’s speech and video link to my VK for those wanting to refer to it later.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 24 2022 22:58 utc | 206

SSDD.
Now that the H8_Hegemony(“Greater_ISR+Diaspora” and VassalG7) Plutarchy+Oligarchs are Butt-Hurt about the much loathed Referendums, the Oligarchs are rushing to try and (RAND Plan)”extend” RUS, CHN, IRN, and PRK and their Trading Partners (e.g., SYR).
The H8 managed to subjugate the €URoZone via NATO (Keep Murica In, Germans Down, Russians Out, with Diaspora On Top).

Posted by: IronForge | Sep 24 2022 23:01 utc | 207

Thank you, b, for reading the NYT and posting – it is really hard to believe they would say such things; this deserves a retraction to my way of thinking. They must be under enormous pressure, as they have been for so long, apparently. All I can think is that the manner in which they obfuscated responsibility for the ‘facts’ you report indicates their own awareness that these are not truths in any way, shape, or form.
And thanks to karlof1 for the following observation @ 149 here:

“A few remarks. Too many think BigLie Media is believed by most within the Outlaw US Empire, but consistent polling by Gallup and others shows a very different result with most media now distrusted…”

I was intending to say something similar but you said it better. Thanks also for the Lavrov link and excerpt. And happy homecoming, Scorpion!

Posted by: juliania | Sep 24 2022 23:02 utc | 208

IRN can work out any NukeMatl concerns with RUS, CHN, IND, and PRK.
IRN will be joining the SCO, have Energy Deals with RUS and CHN, and host Military Advisors from CHN_PLA and PRK_KPA.
NATO aren’t needed nor welcomed.
I strongly suggest that ISR negotiate a Peace or Non-Aggression Treaty with IRN

Posted by: IronForge | Sep 24 2022 23:06 utc | 209

re karlof1 | Sep 24 2022 22:58 utc | 206
thanks for that part of the speech by Lavrov, boy he hits it on the mark so many times, you’d think he was a old time socialist anti-imperialist :):):)
at the least, past and present times, he has some really good writers behind him
the biggest quibble i had with him was this one but quite significant line:
“…We all remember how, under far-fetched pretexts, aggressive wars were unleashed against Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya, far from the American shores, which claimed many hundreds of thousands of civilian lives….”
the death toll for all, including Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen et. al. is in fact in the millions.
See:
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/03/22/how-many-millions-of-people-have-been-killed-in-americas-post-9-11-wars-part-one-iraq/
and
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/04/25/how-many-millions-have-been-killed-in-americas-post-9-11-wars-part-3-libya-syria-somalia-and-yemen/
“….I have estimated that about 2.4 million people have been killed as a result of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, while about 1.2 million have been killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan as a result of the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan. In the third and final part of this report, I will estimate how many people have been killed as a result of U.S. military and CIA interventions in Libya, Syria, Somalia and Yemen…..”
thanks again Karlof1 for all your invaluable posts….

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 24 2022 23:24 utc | 210

Neo-cons are not conservatives except in the sense they try to attract that sentiment in the voter base – much as neo-liberals are not liberals except that they seek liberal voters in the voter base.
Posted by: c1ue | Sep 24 2022 12:29 utc | 54

As I understand it, the term neo-conservative was applied to Jewish Democrats whose big concern was Israel and who allied with Republicans since they saw them as more willing to drop bombs and invade in the Middle East. People like Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz. But it may be more broadly used as hawkish Democrats who switched to working with Republicans just to be warmongers in general. Anyways, I think the “conservative” only relates to warmongering which used to be considered to be primarily in the domain of Republicans, or alternatively, Republicans were the more rabid warmongers. But now both sides are equal warmongers so the term is out of date. Victoria Nuland and the like don’t need to cross parties to wreck havoc on the world. I see the Duran guys continue to use it as a term to mean “Washington DC warmongers and regime changers”.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 24 2022 23:29 utc | 211

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 24 2022 15:42 utc | 103
Great post. I had to read it again..
“In reality Neocons are Extremist Radicals only appearing as if they hold to strong traditionalist conservative trusted values and have a deep Faith in God and Democracy / rule of Law.”
Your analysis is Brilliant. Any ideas how to get rid of these evil neocon arseholes, before they kill us all.
Slugs and snails, although they eat some of the veg, are not much of a problem, cos we have lots of birds, who eat them for breakfast, paricularly when its raining, and they all come out at night.
Neocons contribute nothing to the well being of our planet and the human race.
Neocons are the worst Parasites, we as a human race have had to endure yet.
Can’t we try and reverse brainwash them, so that they self destruct realising what horrible creatures they are.
It can’t be that hard
Thanks for what you wrote. I guess you don’t like neocons either.
I don’t like nazis either – same lot.
Most humans are nice, but we are being infested with parasites.
Neocon Parasites Contribute Nothing, and Suck The Life Blood Out Of Us Humans
And we don’t react, much to save our lives.
Infestation by Evil insects is not that easy to clear.
Most of us just get born, grow up, try our best to make friend and can’t speak, cos she is just so incredibly beautiful, and you know you stand no chance, if you are as shy as me.
She says OK
Fuck Me.
That’s pretty much like us humans are like – Isn’t it?
We have no interest in killing people from foreign lands.
We just want to make love.
My wife and I have met many people in foreign lands.
They didn’t want to kill us – they wanted to speak to us, when we were hitch hiking, and invited us into their homes
Such lovely people
We try and reciprocate as best we can
Hopefully a Full House Soon.
God knows how I am going to pay the bills
But our home will be safe and warm.. with the older grandchildren welcoming their baby brother or sister into their home.
They may want a boy, for the team, but may well get a Sister
They will love their new baby child to bits
Nice kids.
Tony

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 24 2022 23:36 utc | 212

In response to Sanz@138,
It’s a mixed bag. There’s definitely some panic from people who, for the most part, don’t fit the stated criteria for mobilization anyway. In a number of cases the local milcom offices haven’t been very professional, resulting in unsuitable recruits being shipped back and forth, which has added to the confusion. At the same time, there seem to be a lot of people with military experience who haven’t been called up and are instead mobilizing themselves, requesting to be part of the first wave, so it’s not like there’s a shortage of manpower.
At the end of the day, those who aren’t motivated to fight aren’t wanted at the front anyway and nobody will hassle those who want to leave. Getting back in might turn out to be a bit more difficult, but who knows. It’s likely that there are some guest workers among them who’ve sought out Russian citizenship for work-related purposes, and they might have problems if they want to return.
Even if the mobilized troops turn out to be superfluous in Ukraine, it’s a useful live-fire drill for when full-scale mobilization is a matter of life and death for the country, and a lot of cobwebs are being dusted off in the process.

Posted by: Skiffer | Sep 24 2022 23:43 utc | 213

Thanks juliania and michael72 for your replies. The follow-up to Lavrov is “All the Young Dudes, Carry the (Russian) News”–Escobar’s newest. An excerpt from its middle:

Moscow’s rerouted strategy takes maskirovka – mask, feint, fool the enemy – to another level, actually dropping the mask, plus the velvet gloves. Now it’s all very clear: this is turbo-charged Sun Tzu (“May your plans be dark and impenetrable like the night, and when you move, strike like lightning.”)
There will be plenty of strikes like lightning ahead in the Ukrainian battlefield. This is the culmination of a process that started in Samarkand, during the SCO summit last week. According to diplomatic sources, Putin and Xi Jinping had a very serious conversation. Xi asked tough questions – as in you must finish this off – and Putin arguably explained how things would reach the next level.
Yoda Patrushev was on the road to China immediately afterwards – meeting with his Yoda counterpart Yang Jiechi, head of the Foreign Affairs Commission, and the secretary of the Central Political and Legal Committee, Guo Shengkun.
Following-up on Samarkand, Patrushev outlined how Moscow will help Beijing militarily when the Empire tries anything funny in the next battlefield: Asia-Pacific. That should happen under the framework of the SCO. Crucially, the Patrushev meetings were requested by the Chinese.

Escobar expects escalation of the sort we haven’t seen yet. I believe he’s correct.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 24 2022 23:43 utc | 214

The narrative is that Russia has to lose and, therefore, the line that Putin is losing is trumpeted far and wide under the assumption that that will make it come true. Not a snowball’s chance in hell. This war will end with the Ukraine dismembered, maybe so badly that it couldn’t exist as a state. Europe will be economically and politically destroyed as, most importantly, their businesses will fail due to excessive energy costs and their government will morph as people get fed up with being made miserable by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels all for the sake of keeping the US happy. The US will have a financial train wreck as it keeps shoveling billions in weapons into the Ukraine for the Russians to use as target practice.

Posted by: Jeff Harrison | Sep 24 2022 23:49 utc | 215

c1ue | Sep 24 2022 18:54 utc | 155
that’s rich coming from you. bevin made a mistake about some nobody, a name, among the neo cons? why shit, just the other day i was reading how “the earth is flatter than you think” and i could a swore i was reading Tom “where’s my wife’s shopping malls” Friedman. Nope. Noble “war is good for the economy” Kruggles, hot off of an ivy-covered desk.
how oh how did i mess that one up?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 24 2022 23:55 utc | 216

the MSM, esp the NYT is a gateway, with information flow up and down.
one function of the MSM is to offer guidance to the ruling class for how to sell its own bullshit to the masses. readers of the NYT learn how to talk. just ask Dick Cheney.
i also find it VERY easy to see on my oh so smart phone what the objective of MSM/NYT coverage is. on the NYT homepage, the bottom 20%-30% of the page is the kicker: GO SHOPPING. along with idiotic sports and celebrity news, we conclude w/a whopping bushful of advide: SHOP MORE. the NYT will teach you how.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 25 2022 0:01 utc | 217

reply to 214
At the moment,Ukraine doesn’t seem to be doing much of anything. Can it be true that they finally have run out of steam? Equipment? Troops? Weak enough to allow taking Odessa?

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 25 2022 0:11 utc | 218

I have not read most of the previous comments, so perhaps this has already been said: The majority of the Times’s reporting on Russiagate was also based on leaks coming from anonymous “officials.” What a dangerous rag the Gray Lady has become. But this is its business model—maintain access to key sources by serving their policy priorities. The facts be damned.

Posted by: Rob | Sep 25 2022 0:11 utc | 219

Bemildred @ 187
I have a friend who got out of the draft in the Vietnam era. He told the draft board, “there is no guarantee I will not shoot one of my officers”. They dropped him like a hot potato.

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 25 2022 0:16 utc | 220

“Hi, NYT? I’m an anonymous official and I’d like to submit a few news items for your mullet wrapper which may or may not be true. I have a few friends here with me whom are also anonymous officials who will back me up.”

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Sep 25 2022 0:20 utc | 221

Lavrov channels Truss: “Referendums in Laos, Kharkov”
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1573807876359028736

Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 25 2022 0:24 utc | 222

Mummer @ 154
Only a very small minority saw through the cynicism of this “Thank-you-for-your-service” psyop. … They were neither ‘Lefty-Liberals’ or ‘Neo-Cons’, but principled thinkers.
It was definitely a corporate style, covid style push on that one. The company and union I am with pushed it pretty hard. Take the shot, thank you for your service, and get back to work.
I told them to piss off. Do not ever shovel that “thank you for your service” crap at me again. Everyone’s jaw dropped on the room. I won that one but was willing to be let go.
SeanAU @ 103
(my conjecture is)… Bush’s actual Campaign Policy was to extricate the USA from overseas entanglements, to cut the military, costs of State and redirect those funds back into rebuilding the nation. He ended up doing the reverse.
I need to disabuse you of that notion. Bush was a Skull and Bones man in a long line of Skull and Bones men. Pure Anglo American Death Cultist family. He went in to finish what his father started. Dead brown people are just cattle to these people. It is in their code going back for many millennia. The organizations come and go but the goal remains the same.

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 25 2022 0:47 utc | 223

The next flag Glomohomo supporters will adopt will be the Buryat Freedom Party flag.
Meanwhile it’s actually 1914 or 1941 all over again after the Russians mobilized. Don’t let your sons get fed into a land war in Eastern Europe or Western Asia…

Posted by: Wokechoke | Sep 25 2022 0:57 utc | 224

since the armchairs said 3 days
north korea vs south korea
I chip in for north wins in 2 days ,)

Posted by: Macpott | Sep 25 2022 1:01 utc | 225

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 24 2022 23:36 utc | 212
Paraffin heaters (kerosene) work really well, esp Jap ones. Though probably the guvmint will take the fuel off the market. To hurt Putin they’ll say… Sold on Amazon whilst supplies last….

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 25 2022 1:32 utc | 226

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 24 2022 23:36 utc | 212
“In reality Neocons are Extremist Radicals only appearing as if they hold to strong traditionalist conservative trusted values and have a deep Faith in God and Democracy / rule of Law.”
Your analysis is Brilliant. Any ideas how to get rid of these evil neocon arseholes, before they kill us all.
……………
Exile. Only way. It’s that time again.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 25 2022 1:40 utc | 227

Sun Tzu (“May your plans be dark and impenetrable like the night, and when you move, strike like lightning.”

Posted by: Macpott | Sep 25 2022 1:48 utc | 228

It is all a game, sweet to chew, sweet to gut, but in the end it is all a bitter nut ,)

Posted by: Macpott | Sep 25 2022 1:54 utc | 229

@214 “All the Young Dudes, Carry the (Russian) News”–Escobar’s newest.”
To me that “article” is a load of hyperbolic, inflated, over the top, swaggering testosterone laden bulldust. It’s spin infused with sophistry and manipulative emotional button pushing on steroids. iow PR / Propaganda / Advertising / Hyperbole – take your pick, all fit imo.
It’s no better than the NYTs Guardian over-hyped fantasy conjectures, innuendo and their made up fake stories. Escobar is making wild claims to be able to mind-read what key players people are thinking and saying behind closed doors. Did he bug the room where the meetings were held – no – but such are his unreliable and frankly impossible to be true claims being made of what was said. Escobar writes as if he was there, present in the room – his own anonymous source basically.
But, obviously, Escobar is simply making it up as he goes for effect! This is gutter yellow journalism. The equivalent of Trump Tweet only longer. It’s pro-warmongering swill, violence praising, and garbage propaganda that does not inform or accurately report events as they happened.
One basic example of how dishonest/incompetent and manipulative Escobar is as a journalist in that piece is this false/flawed claims/conjectures:- “Following-up on Samarkand, Patrushev outlined how Moscow will help Beijing militarily when the Empire tries anything funny in the next battlefield: Asia-Pacific. That should happen under the framework of the SCO. Crucially, the Patrushev meetings were requested by the Chinese.”
Versus the actual facts?

The routine consultation between China and Russia has nonetheless put the US side on pins and needles and set Washington giving free rein to its imaginations.
First, Washington makes groundless and wild conjectures at routine China-Russia strategic consultation.
The Chinese and Russian heads of state suggested establishing a regular strategic security consultation mechanism in 2005, which would be held annually on principle but has been suspended since 2020 because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Under this mechanism, the two countries discuss a series of major issues including their strategic security, military and security cooperation, global strategic stability, and regional peace and development to make sure they are on the same page regarding issues concerning each other’s core interests and major concerns. http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2022-09/21/content_10186252.htm

It’s fine being an openly pro-Russian (or pro-anything) writer or journalist expressing one’s genuine opinion/values while noting the “facts” informing that opinion / conclusions – but that article is not at all genuine and credible like that.
It’s no different to Dick Cheney traveling through his distorted fantasyland making up stories about WMDs on the US Sunday TV shows! It’s sophistry, it’s inaccurate, and distorting reality. imo, Escobar does not know what he is claiming he knows.
Buyer Beware! Cheers.
other useful even handed refs:
121 items – good luck parsing the meanings of the Samarkand Declaration of the Council of Heads of State of Shanghai Cooperation Organization
https://www.mea.gov.in/bilateral-documents.htm?dtl/35724/Samarkand_Declaration_of_the_Council_of_Heads_of_State_of_Shanghai_Cooperation_Organization
Yang Jiechi Chairs the 17th Round of China-Russia Strategic Security Consultation
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/zxxx_662805/202209/t20220920_10768229.html
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/china-and-russia-want-fair-world-order-won-e2-80-99t-bend-to-e2-80-98external-factors-e2-80-99-russian-security-chief-says/ar-AA11ZKSf
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3193037/china-and-russia-want-fair-world-order-wont-bend-external
http://www.china.org.cn/world/2022-09/20/content_78428793.htm

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 25 2022 1:59 utc | 230

But let’s recall that every word the NYT wrote about the deadliness of covid and the safety of untested vaccines was 100% true. Those that doubted were anti vax nutters.
What is it, they lie about everything or only that one disagrees with? There is collusion between the state, media and MIC for profit and political aims, but none between the state, media and Pharma for profit and political aims?

Posted by: Organic | Sep 25 2022 2:16 utc | 231

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 24 2022 22:20 utc | 201
Please provide reference address. What you were transcribing, didn’t sound like Bentley would have said. That is why I would like you to provide a reference address.
Thanks much.

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Sep 25 2022 2:18 utc | 232

“In reality Neocons are Extremist Radicals only appearing as if they hold to strong traditionalist conservative trusted values and have a deep Faith in God and Democracy / rule of Law.”
Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 24 2022 15:42 utc | 103
Great post. I had to read it again..
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 24 2022 23:36 utc | 212
Thank you very much for your kind words Tony. I hear and totally understand where you’re coming from. I do not know how to stop them either. But they are psychologically sick imo – anti-humanist imo, as are the neoliberals. The things these people really identify with those labels …. their isn’t a Neocon political party etc, the PNAC was a one-off think tank, but they hide in plain view part of all kinds of other organizations and institutions. By their “fruits” you may know them… seems the best way to recognise them.
One option is your standard revolution and a bullet. They cannot be “reeducated” better. They do not willing show up at Psychologists offices for some therapy. Psychopaths, narcissists, upper class 1% figure they are born to rule and there’s nothing wrong with them – it’s all those masses, the suckers, who are the idiots.
Might be a hint in this:
“….. and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
Can’t see anything shifting in that regard int he short / medium term decades ahead. It’s been like this for over 50 years already to no effect. I do not see that anything that unfolds in Ukraine or Russia or China or Europe will necessarily change anything either.
In the mean time, be happy, don’t worry (seems the best ideal). Cheers
PS this may help to explain why things are like they are, as in psychology, cognitive science, the family, metaphors, reason, the mind, conservatives vs liberal identities etc https://george-lakoff.com/

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 25 2022 2:24 utc | 233

“…There will be plenty of strikes like lightning ahead in the Ukrainian battlefield. This is the culmination of a process that started in Samarkand, during the SCO summit last week. According to diplomatic sources, Putin and Xi Jinping had a very serious conversation. Xi asked tough questions – as in you must finish this off – and Putin arguably explained how things would reach the next level…”
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 24 2022 23:43 utc | 214
Thanks again, karlof1. It may not be a lightning strike as such, (more like a lightning-bug twinkle) but for the first time in a while your link to Strategic-Culture has opened for me – I will take it as a good sign. May it all end, not with a bang, nor even a whimper, but simply by melting away… What us? who we? Oh, you mean…? Why didn’t you say so?
The NYT will have one of its upstairs confabs, well, you know, it didn’t work…time to think about the elections, balloons in New Mexico, that sort of thing…
Too late, my friends. You’ve lost us and we’re not coming back. Not ever. People have died.
That’s of course what isn’t going to happen. But it should. For the sake of the children, it really should.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 25 2022 2:27 utc | 234

as orks (or elves) would say
Ish mak tar talur

Posted by: Macpott | Sep 25 2022 2:28 utc | 235

The conversation at the end between Hitler and Satan was quite good
“all I did was do what every European citizen dreamed of doing: get rid of the jews and get rid of russia, that centaur”
It was pretty well done. If the Russians do hang tough it is this mentality seen in the film. Additionally, while it may not be directly about Russia I recommend Waiting for the Barbarians. I fear we have simply created the Barbarians this last few years.
Mobilization is no joke no matter much the press are mocking Moscow’s last escalation. It can only be matched by further mobilizations in the west.

Posted by: Wokechoke | Sep 25 2022 2:31 utc | 236

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 24 2022 17:46 utc | 140
Yes, precisely.
“What did they know, and when did they know it?”
And who is this “they”? Because not everyone in the “know” “knew”.
Too late now.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 25 2022 2:31 utc | 237

Bemildred@187:
Yeah in the old days the fatties, juvenile delinquents, oddballs etc got their asses worked off in bootcamp and if they didn’t shape up their fellow boots might have a blanket party, soap in a sock, or the DI’s might gang up and beat the dogshit out of them…. one way or the other, they would get with the plan.
The good ole days, rocking in the USA.

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 25 2022 2:38 utc | 238

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 25 2022 0:47 utc | 223
I need to disabuse you of that notion. Bush was a Skull and Bones man in a long line of Skull and Bones men. Pure Anglo American Death Cultist family.
Yes, he was. Did he believe it or care about it at all? I suggest he did not. He knew nothing about Iraq and global geopolitics or cared about the Neocons or the Skull and Bones crowd imo. A rich kid with a silver spoon and free access to cocaine. He took all the advantages of his “position” such as getting into the oil business, he was helped a lot by others. AS President I think he took the job seriously though, as best he could.
He went in to finish what his father started.
I seriously doubt that. imo it only “appears” that way. ymmv, and you might be right, but imo Bush’s personality, values, and interests were totally alien to Cheney and serious Neocons. GW was led by the nose, eg choosing Cheney to find a VP only for Cheney to be chosen as the rest were “not good enough”. At least that is what I concluded long ago at the time.
Cheney was a professional, like Rumsfeld, deep within the system. Bush was an amateur. So was his father. Mere “mouthpieces” imo.
” Dead brown people are just cattle to these people. It is in their code going back for many millennia. The organizations come and go but the goal remains the same.
Kind of, sure, more or less. But just because X person is born into Y family does not automatically make it so.
Anyway, my basic point is this – the power was in the NeoCon network, not GW Bush or his family ties, or Bonesmen per se, though possibly neocons and others were also bonesmen, it happens. It’s an incestuous lot these old school ties, birds of a feather and all. But it is unwise to leap to assumptions without some hard evidence to back up how the connections operated in each case.
But no one tells, it is private/secretive, and of course everyone lies. For me, guessing isn’t evidence, but it’s all we have usually. So we all end up believing different things as a result.
Cheers and thanks for the comment, it’s fair enough.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 25 2022 2:55 utc | 239

@212 tony and scorpion
In the U.S., we have crisco shortening that has a candle flame on the label.
This was because people used to use it as a 30+ day candle.
Recently, I have stumbled upon several videos demonstrating how they can also be used alongside terracotta pots for radiating the heat from the flame as efficiently as possible.
There was a gentlemen who worked up a set-up thst I would like to try this winter involving a portable fan powered by small consumer battery and also some ducting.
crisco heat…does it work?
A good set-up for flower-pot heaters
Stay warm and angry, Euros.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 25 2022 2:56 utc | 240

I could not agree with b’s assessments more, which bear comparison with Larry Johnson. I wrote an article on the SMO, partial mobilization, Western fascism and Russia’s shift to counter terrorism The US is doing boxing. Russia is doing combat sambo. After reading MoA and Johnson I had tgo revise the article!
https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/how-the-west-was-won-russias-victory

Posted by: julianmacfarlane | Sep 25 2022 3:06 utc | 241

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 25 2022 2:44 utc | 166
I don’t think Bush sr was an amateur, or Prescott Bush either. those old wasp families go way back. Jr. may have been, but he was also a malevolent little egomaniac, and he didn’t give a shit about killing millions of brown people any more than his forefathers did. it was more about preening tho with him and his little grudges. in a way he was like Trump with the shallowness and the narcissism, but he was lockstep with the system due to the family he was born into.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 25 2022 3:08 utc | 242

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 24 2022 16:09 utc | 111
Posted by: GoFast | Sep 24 2022 12:47 utc | 60

is it just me or is The New York Post increasingly a standout for good journalism?

So, it seems to outclass the usual CIA-driven reporting, which I acknowledge is a low bar.

Having lost all credibility they need to invest some truth in order to buy the rights to future lies.
A master liar will tell 9 truths in order to tell 1 one grand lie that may be believed by the gullible.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 3:10 utc | 243

Losses of Russia and allies:approx.6000 Staff until now. Add factor 3, wounded, = 18’000 Staff.
Losses of Ukraine and proxies:approx.60’000 Staff until now. Add factor 3, wounded, = 180’000 Staff.
It’s one to ten – Russia/ Ukraine.
Equippment not included in this listing.

Posted by: Fabrizio Petralia | Sep 25 2022 3:12 utc | 244

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 25 2022 3:08 utc | 242
Hi, looks like you are crossing threads and mixing up your reply to refs. Have another look. cheers.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 25 2022 3:16 utc | 245

Interview with Sergei Shoigu | Mobilization
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu gave an interview in which he spoke about the situation in Ukraine in connection with a special military operation: Russia: 5.937 dead! Ukraine: 61.207 died!

Posted by: Fabrizio Petralia | Sep 25 2022 3:17 utc | 246

Posted by: Fabrizio Petralia | Sep 25 2022 3:12 utc | 244

Equippment not included in this listing.

You should include deserters in that count.
I’m sure it’s higher on the Ukrainian side.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 3:17 utc | 247

Posted by: Yenwoda | Sep 24 2022 21:25 utc | 185

Brutal day for Russian aviation, at least 3 Sukhois of various types and one helo (claimed to be Ka-52 but impossible to verify type from the video).

Why do you uncritically regurgitate the reports of the Ukraine MoD ?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 3:19 utc | 248

Others have said it in the thread, more or less, that the anonymous sources are from the intelligence community and the people deciding what direction media takes are from the intelligence community and in some cases the people writing things down are tied to the intelligence community and the digital platforms news gets distributed on have board members and execs from the intelligence community.
The politicians are trained to live a media life. They look to it for guidance, to see what “people are saying” and they craft their “policy” based on its predicted media reaction. The intelligence community only needs to whisper to media sources to have itself amplified in policy, backed up by directly advising the same politicians. We’re ruled by the bastard children of Allen Dulles.

Posted by: Lex | Sep 25 2022 3:33 utc | 249

Obviously their “anonymous” BS propaganda is working brain washing the masses, even the “educated. This is what I witnessed from listening to a conversation between my assistant manager and a staff outside my office. Both hold professional “doctorate” degrees and you would think they would use the “logic” side of their brain to be able to figure out truth from a “lie” or propaganda. My assistant: “The Russians are targeting civilian homes, and they should be persecuted for that war crime!” My staff “Russians are castrating Ukrainian soldiers,” at this point I could not help it and made a comment “No Ukrainians are the ones castrating Russian soldiers, ” to which she replied back “Well, the Russians started first…” at this point I stopped b/c knowing both of them real well, even if the sky is blue and they read “no sky is red” they would still go outside and say “the sky is red.” My assistant is an extreme right wing conservative “exceptional” American and the staff member is hardcore democrat Biden/Hilary supporter. But, this to demonstrate their belief system in the US media, anything they say is set in stone for people like these who carry extreme prejudice toward Russians and anything Russian without knowing the history. Once the gloves are off , Russians should roll over Poland and three “stooge” countries plus Georgia (one their high ranking party leaders is putting a ballot for a vote for Georgia to start a second front with Russia! It has all US/Uk/CIA/MI6 fingerprints on it).

Posted by: TruthSeeker | Sep 25 2022 3:37 utc | 250

Posted by: julianmacfarlane | Sep 25 2022 3:06 utc | 241
Not bad. I quite like the following thoughts:
most people are locked into illusions about the Russian SMO.
Sounds about right, me included. It’s quite common imo, partly because it is all at a distant and the quality of info is very poor. Much guesswork and wild fantasies fills the vacuum of factual knowledge.
The Russians did not “invade” Ukraine — they prevented Banderite Ukraine from invading the DPR and LPR.
Planning is for wimps.
denazifying the West where neoliberal fascism masquerades as liberal democracy…. and the FDR quote.
Even in the Ukraine, “denazification” is a lot more than just killing Azovs and their ilk. It is anti-fascist — that is, returning the state to its rightful owners.
The “Banderites” are not “Nazis’ in the Hitlerian sense —

Here I thought of fascist John McCain being the most well known salesman of the Ukraine coup.
Modern fascism is not so much an ideology as a psychopathic “mentality” (a state of mind or consciousness iow)
and American fascism is mostly grooming and seduction (Logical Fallacies and Sophistry!) . Traditional fascism is just rape. The point of both is domination and control — power. ”
Behind multiple fronts, and different names, institutions and groups lays those who believe in the “entrenched religious beliefs” expounded by neoconservatism and neoliberalism both of which are intrinsically fascist in nature.
Propaganda is “grooming”.
The Russians don’t do propaganda as the West does. In fact, they don’t really do it (at) all.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 25 2022 4:05 utc | 251

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Sep 25 2022 2:18 utc | 232
Several Barflies posted it yesterday inc myself. A Rumble video. No transcript. Link:
https://rumble.com/v1kpqdh-russell-bentley-situation-in-donetsk-and-in-ukraine.html
He was rattled but not panicked. He predicted imminent fall of Donetsk line if velvet glove SMO approach was not abandoned in matter of days since they would be overrun and there would be ten thousand plus human shields captured if Ukes got just one Western Donetsk City neighborhood. The next day Putin made the big announcement leading me to conclude this assessment was shared by many higher up chain of command. In any case, things are changing rapidly it seems and likely gloves will be coming off.
If I understand correctly, when Donetsk votes to join Russia, all the Ukie troops now bombarding them from their fortified bunkers will be on sovereign Russian territory as invading armed hostiles. I wonder if RF will give them 48 hours to leave or just bombard them without warning.
In any case, Texas’ interview worth listening to. I rarely watch videos about SMO and avoid all war porn. Unverifiable. But this is a sit-down in his home with combat soldier 2-3 miles from Ukie line where it has not budged since February 24. Donetskians were at the end of their tether last week. Not reported by alternative pro Russian media or commenters here.
War is messy and ugly. Anyway, SMO is over. Phase III begins any day now…

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 25 2022 4:06 utc | 252

People who live in one country have no ability to judge how people are acting in another part of the world, but if they’re forced to come up with a position then they do, in some fashion, but it is meaningless.
So the world hegemon US government goes on with its “rules-based” put-downs and invasions of other countries without really caring what the citizens think in some meaningless way. it’s not a democracy, after all.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 25 2022 4:10 utc | 253

@karlof1 | Sep 24 2022 23:43 utc | 214

>Thanks juliania and michael72 for your replies. The follow-up to Lavrov is “All the Young Dudes, Carry the (Russian) News”–Escobar’s newest. An excerpt from its middle:

Thanks for all your posts, Lavrov is on fire. I liked his reference to Zelensky in 2021 telling the people of Donbass go go to Russia if they didn’t like Ukraine, and they did! 😎
As for Escobar’s “All the Young Dudes”, it is a reference to Mott the Hoople – All The Young Dudes, gifted to them by David Bowie. I remember that song very well.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2022 4:28 utc | 254

@circumspect | Sep 25 2022 0:47 utc | 223

Only a very small minority saw through the cynicism of this “Thank-you-for-your-service” psyop. … They were neither ‘Lefty-Liberals’ or ‘Neo-Cons’, but principled thinkers.
It was definitely a corporate style, covid style push on that one. The company and union I am with pushed it pretty hard. Take the shot, thank you for your service, and get back to work.

‘Stay safe’ falls in the same category. It is evil psyop.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2022 4:55 utc | 255

243
Losses of Russia and allies:approx.6000 Staff until now. Add factor 3, wounded, = 18’000 Staff.
Losses of Ukraine and proxies:approx.60’000 Staff until now. Add factor 3, wounded, = 180’000 Staff.
It’s one to ten – Russia/ Ukraine.
Equippment not included in this listing.
Posted by: Fabrizio Petralia | Sep 25 2022 3:12 utc | 244

When Russia gives their casualties around 6,000 they aren’t including Donbas militias or Wagner Group according to Alexander Mercouris.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 25 2022 4:56 utc | 256

Nice piece. Depressing, but nice.

Posted by: Myke | Sep 25 2022 5:19 utc | 257

There is hard fighting about Krasny Liman right now.

Posted by: lahire | Sep 25 2022 5:21 utc | 258

The more I observe and study the SMO as it unfolds, the more I understand that Putin really is playing a game of 6D chess (*wince*).
What are the dimensions of this “6D chess”?
Dimension 1: The Economic
Dimension 2: The Geopolitical
Dimension 3: The Military
Dimension 4: The Diplomatic
Dimension 5: Time (Nature)
Dimension 6: Technology
These dimensions are interdependent and reinforce or undermine each other depending on how they are developed.
They either limit or expand the range of options Russia has in it’s death match against the ‘West’.
Therefore they must be carefully developed in order to ensure overall victory in the game.
– The Military dimension would fail utterly without the economic, technological and geopolitical dimensions and therefore Putin had to ensure these dimensions were properly developed.
– The Economic dimension depends utterly on the diplomatic and technological dimensions and therefore Putin had to ensure a sophisticated diplomatic battle was conducted at all times.
– The Geopolitical dimension itself depends on the military and diplomatic dimensions
– The Technological dimension sustains the military, economic and even geopolitical dimensions and without Putin’s direction of the Russian state to ensure technological advancement from the ruins of what Yeltsin left behind, Russia would be a technological backwater today, and consequently a military and geopolitical backwater as well.
– Without careful Diplomatic gamesmanship, the economic and geopolitical support Russia has obtained from non-western nations would not have materialized.
– All these dimensions depend on careful Timing, on allowing certain events to unfold far enough to exploit them at the right time. Without the careful application of Timing the relationships between all these dimensions are destabilized and potentially destroyed.
What is remarkable is how each of these dimensions fit together so logically in retrospect, as if Putin saw all this happening two decades in advance and had begun laying the groundwork while western leaders were still muddling their way through their respective political and personal intrigues.
Taking a very brief “sampling” of how this multi-dimensional game has unfolded in each area thus far:
Dimension 1: The Economic
– Putin has spent years turning Russia into an Autarky, having zero reliance on the West or it’s lackeys for *any* critical imports.
– Yet, Putin has ensured Russia is a key supplier of critical resources from oil to neon and titanium to it’s enemies, and it’s friends
– Putin has spent 20 years or more building out or reinforcing the network of gas and oil pipelines across central asia, ensuring an “economic circulatory system” is in place from Asia to Central Asia.
– Alternatives to SWIFT between Russia and it’s major trading partners
– Huge gold and forex reserves
– Strong currency controls
– Ability to trade in native currencies with it’s major trading partners
– etc …
It’s clear that without Putin’s careful stewardship of the economic dimension none of the others would be sustainable.
Dimension 2: The Geopolitical
– Began with the annexation of Crimea in anticipation of what was to come …
– The construction of arctic military and research capabilities (including icebreakers and floating nuclear power stations) to control Russia’s arctic resources
– The intervention in Syria to ensure a Russian “lever” in the middle east.
– The somewhat clandestine initial support of the LPR, DPR, Abhkazia and Ossetia, pacification of Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan (the Caucasus)
– Foundation of the CSTO
Without Putin’s stewardship of these geopolitical aspects the Russian Federation would have been far more vulnerable to western destabilization efforts in central asia, limiting his options in the SMO.
Dimension 3: The Military
– Development of an anti-terrorism and anti-insurgency capability during the North Caucasus troubles and the terrorism at Beslan and Moscow.
– Reform of the Russian military based on the lessons of the Georgian and Syrian wars
Without the lessons of the Georgian and Syrian war, it’s likely the Russian invasion of Ukraine would have founded at the 2014/2015 contact line.
Dimension 4: The Diplomatic
– OPEC+ : Development of good relations with the Gulf Oil Producers including Saudi Arabia
– Foundation and development of the CSTO
– Foundation and development of the SCO
– Development of close relations with China, India, Iran and African, South American, Central Asian states … e.g via regular and consistent conduct of Military exercises with China and India
– Rapprochement with groups like the Taliban and Hamas and other groups considered “pariah” by the West
Without the development of diplomatic relations in all these areas, Russia would have found itself without any markets either in the West or the East, unable to easily switch from western markets to those in the east (India, China etc.) under sanctions conditions. Russia would also have found itself with no influence over the oil price via OPEC+ and perhaps, OPEC would otherwise have been more amenable to the “oil price cap” madness proposed by the West …
Throughout the last 20 years we can clearly see Putin constantly accumulating diplomatic capital in order to spend it when absolutely necessary. This explains the constant “niceness” or “politeness” from which Lavrov and Putin. never seem to depart when dealing with the Global South and East.
(While critics were lambasting Putin for attending the military games in 2022 while Karkov was falling to the AFU, Putin was fighting a geopolitical and diplomatic battle to ensure victory in these key dimensions of the SMO)
Dimension 5: Time (Nature)
– We can clearly see Putin leveraging the onset of Winter, together with control of resources to support the aims of the SMO. We are about to see how Putin uses time, in combination with the seasons to deliver very impactful economic strikes against Western interests and the AFU in Ukraine.
– The timing of the annexation of Crimea. If Putin had hesitated it is very likely Crimea would be NATO (American) base by now. Putin chose to spend his diplomatic capital with the global south and East to prevent this.
– The timing of the Syrian intervention
Here we see how Putin uses time: Deliberately moving very quickly in some cases, and biding his time in others.
Dimension 6: Technology
– “Game Changing” Hypersonics and other weaponry
– Acceleration of the I.T industry to enhance cyberwarfare capabilities
– Development of local electronics industry to reduce dependence of western semiconductors
Without Putin’s stewardship of the technological dimension the military, geopolitical and even economic dimensions of the overall SMO would have been impossible to develop.
I’ll try and expand on this in posts to come.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:28 utc | 259

Simon @ 211
The Neocons lack true agency. They are primarily mouthpieces for a far deeper agenda, that of the Talmudist bank$ter crime clans who rule through their control of Babylonian usurious banking principles.
These mostly former Straussian Trotskyites do a fine job of ideological hypothesizing and theorizing. They appeal to what the Germans might call “Sitzfleisch Philosophs”. (those who philosophize sitting on their butts and are lost in myriads of abstract reasoning). Academicist intellectuals are bereft of physical activity. Sitting on one’s ass all day is quintessentially an ivory tower “profession”. Within this milieu the Neocons are able to present a united front which gathers in a plethora of stultified intellects who are reminiscent of those medieval monks disputing over how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.
It needs be noted that their progenitor, Herr Strauss, professed his “philosophy” at the University of Chicago. That institution was founded by the Rottenfeller Crime Clan by old J.D. himself and is till the recipient of legacy grants and similar largesse by the Rottenfeller Cryptos, currently led by either or both David Jr. or John D. IV. That family’s fortune was enabled in large part via a very favorable loan in order to assume control over the petroleum industry by a Rottenchild bank in Cleveland in the 1880’s. Both these crime clans are principals in the Talmudist agenda of total control over the entire world.
Falsely doctored perceptions of reality are the specialty of the ruling crime-clans. They have many major minions who act as front-men for their shenanigans. Prominent among them were August Schoenberg, aka Belmont, who openly was the primary Rottenchild agent in the U.S. dating to the bank$ter promoted Panic of 1837. Later, in the century Jakob Schiff was the primary minion for the City of London cabalists. Before century’s end, J.P. Morgan, a Shabos Goy was the frontman for the gang.
Segueing from Morgan were the likes of Bernard Baruch and Felix Frankfurter, who ran affairs for the Cabal during the two World Wars. Later in the 20th Century and extending into the present era, Heinrich Kissinger has been the frontman for the Rottenfellers since 1958. On the Rottenchild side of the equation, the “made man”, George $oro$ represents the City of London regime. Though a consortium, rather than as individuals, the Neocons are currently riding high in the saddle during the unelected Biden puppet regime and particularly dominate the Department of $tate.
Hopefully, Simon, you will find this background information of use when you cite the powers invested in the Neocon schemers and plotters with their ongoing “Plan for a New American Century”. It would appear that the combined powers of Russia and China have become a bit disruptive to their schemes.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 5:43 utc | 260

I saw on Russian Telegram very recently that the number of Russian soldiers killed is 6,000 while it also said Ukrainian forces lost 61,000. So those numbers would be less than have been thrown about for months by both anti-Russian and pro-Russian bloggers and commentators.
The pro-Russian bloggers have been claiming that Ukrainian forces were losing almost 1,000 a day, yet 61,000 in 210 days is around 290 a day. So things are not as dire for them, as far as loss of manpower, as The Saker and his followers go on about. I think he puts heavy spin on things (making it seem like Russians are more successful than they are and the Ukrainians suffering more losses) and it greatly misled people, and that’s why a few are quite disappointed in him.

Posted by: MiniMo | Sep 25 2022 5:44 utc | 261

Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:28 utc | 259
Great comments thank you a good resumé

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 5:45 utc | 262

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 5:45 utc | 262

Great comments thank you a good resumé

Thanks. I’m puckering up for the inevitable rapefest by the critics …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:46 utc | 263

Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:46 utc | 263
Don’t let them get to you – there are many westies here who are closet censors – they poodle yap to no purpose

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 5:56 utc | 264

Pretzelattack@242
You quite precisely nailed Dubya. He was merely a faceman fronting for Cheney, Rumsfeld, the Neocons and his father, Daddy WarBu$h. G.H.W. was in it up to his eyeballs. We was CIA from the founding years of that institution and likely was mentored by Allan Dulles himself. He ran the Bay of Pigs operation for the Agency (two of the ships the Gusanos used were former U.S. Navy vessels, repainted and renamed as the Zapata and the Barbara. Zapata was the oil company, owned by the Agency and fronted by GHWB. Barbara was allegedly the natural daughter of Aleister Crowley. While First Lady, she bragged about her “Beautiful Mind”.
It is also quite probable, according to an excellent volume produced by Jim Fetzer and a host of experts in various professions on the assassination of J.F.K. The hit was run by the Agency. It is more than slightly probable that GHWB was the director of the production, according to Fetzer’s book.
Please bear in mind that the headquarters of the Agency is named after JHWB, as is the U.S. Navy’s premiere aircraft carrier. It is also interesting to note that the Franklin Scandal in his White House days, where boys in their tweens and early teens were taken from an acquiescent Father Flanagan’s “Boys Town” in Omaha and became nighttime visitors at the Executive Mansion. Some contend that Daddy WarBu$h was a satanist and into some pretty nasty blood-sacrifice stuff. Conjecture only, I would say.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 6:09 utc | 265

@ aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 5:43 utc | 260 who wrote

The Neocons lack true agency. They are primarily mouthpieces for a far deeper agenda, that of the Talmudist bank$ter crime clans who rule through their control of Babylonian usurious banking principles.

Do you have proof/links about the “Talmudist bank$ter crime clans” primacy in what I call the God of Mammon cult?
I think Pope Frank is a member of the cult as well as King Chuck.
I also assert that it is not just the usurious banking principles of the private banking system but their representation/support of a small portion of our species instead of a Global Commons approach. Global finance needs to be a public utility entirely under the jurisdiction of sovereign nations and not private individuals/organizations.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 25 2022 6:15 utc | 266

Posted by: MiniMo | Sep 25 2022 5:44 utc | 261
Both of those numbers miss LPR/DPR on the Russian side, and territory defense force/various other agencies on UKR side. Which probably puts you more like 30k vs. 250k. Some months ago published UA MOD report and general Krivonos claimed they were between 200-300k which could more or less validate Russian claims.
◾️Losses of Ukraine during the special operation – hundreds of thousands of people. Former Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Serhiy Krivonos admitted the monstrous number of victims of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
◾️Retired General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Serhiy Krivonos announced on a live broadcast that Ukraine is suffering monstrous losses, numbering in the hundreds of thousands.
◾️Follow:
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses
‼️ 🇷🇺 🇺🇦 “The US warehouses are empty. The Russian defense industry works 24/7, and they know how to produce equipment” — General of the SSO (Spec Forces) of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
The deputy commander and creator of the SSO of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Krivonos, on the air on the YouTube channel “Politeka”, spoke about the deplorable prospects of Ukraine on the example of a decrease in arms supplies from the West and the growing production rates in Russia.
“They are not only deconserving equipment, but they have just launched production, their Russian defense industry is in 24/7 mode, and they know how to produce equipment. They have production, and they did not sell it, as we use to”.
“Let’s stop believing in fairy tales and think that somewhere the Americans have something hidden in their vaults. What the Americans had was designed to fulfill the tasks for their armed forces and what they give is not so much,” Krivonos commented on the supply of Western weapons.

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/6703
Sure, Zelensky has initiated some case against him. But by now it’s pretty obvious for even less minded that Zelensky does not like the truth as long as his masters let him keep his villas in Italy and Miami and more importantly his life.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2022 6:15 utc | 267

Scorpion@252
We will know if the gloves are truly off if the Russian military gives the Ukies huddled in their updated Maginot Line in front of Donetsk city and regularly have been shelling and rocketing the civilian populace there since 2013, a simple “get out of Dodge” warning/ultimatum. In the second instance, the Russians will have full reason to resort to thermobarics to fry their demented asses like the Ukies did to that Donetsk prison camp where those Azov potential “talkers” were being held.
The old adage “turnabout makes fair play” may apply in this situation. The collective Western media will howl to the highest heavens over the “outrage”, but their puppets in Kiev set this ball in motion. No sense if further SMO velvet glove tactics and get a lot of your own people killed, if there is a quick and ultimately life-saving solution for both the Russians and the NovoRussians as well as in a long-term sense, the poor, huddled Ukrainian conscripts who would rapidly surrender, even if they had to eliminate their hardcore officers and “nationalist” enforcers in the process.
This scenario would eventuate when Russian forces break through the then badly battered Ukie lines.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 6:24 utc | 268

@ Arch Bungle 259
It’s Sunday so why not also add the spiritual dimension which President Putin has also included in his chess game?
Communism oppressed faith , presumably in order to dish up Judaism as an only option when a faithless society ceased to function. By working with Islam and Orthodox Christianity Putin has fixed the deliberate design flaw of Communism.
The West on the other hand has become so remote from the beliefs of any religion , so blatant in its unrelenting criminality, that is now the West that is a spiritual vacuum. That may also be the deliberate intention of Judaism.
The hypocrisy of Trump’s ‘ bad things done on both sides’ white supremacist. The hypocrisy of brainwashing Muslims into extremism. The West is a spiritual graveyard. That’s how you get totem Neo- nazism to take over the whole of Ukraine.
By their fruit-cakes shall ye know them.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 25 2022 6:26 utc | 269

@ Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:28 utc | 259 with the big picture scenario view of Russia overall strategy.
Good for you! Yes, there will be lots of critics about this or that point you made but I think it adds to the bigger discussion at the bar.
My challenge to you is to include what you have into the civilization war that I continue to posit has been going on for some time. I continue to believe that Russia would not be conducting their SMO without China “connected at the hip” (I once commented in characterization of their growing relationship) backing and coordination (Good Cop/Bad Cop)
We can only conjecture about the details and extent of the coordination until we see results that expose more subtle elements.
We live in fascinating times…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 25 2022 6:31 utc | 270

Arch Bungle @259
Congratulations. A tour de force. In your deeply studied exposition, you have responded to and answered a good many questions which have directly or tacitly been advanced on these Ukraine threads. I’m looking forward to further developments which you posited. The ground you have already covered is amazing in and of itself and could stand by itself, even so.
This got me to wondering whether there are any war-game developers who lurk here on MoA. If so, you have given them a solid foundation in future gamer development for truly multidimensional players who exercise their keyboard skills at an international level.
Again, a tour de force. Broadscale analysis on a geopolitical level.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 6:36 utc | 271

Psychohistorian@266
Regrettably I cannot offer any direct proofs on the cited Cult. Though an avid researcher for many years, I do not maintain a file on these matters.
However, I do possess on loan from a friend a volume which you might consider to be of acute interest. Will need to go to another room to unearth the specifics: Deanna Spingola is the author of “The Ruling Elite: The Zionist Seizure of World Power” 2012 Trafford Publishing. It may well be out of print as it perhaps should have been printed on asbestos paper. Trafford.com Toll-free# 1-888-232-4444. Good luck with this. Of all the books I’ve read on the totality of the subject, this one is #1, a volume of a mere 737 pages.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 6:47 utc | 272

@ aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 6:47 utc | 272 with the follow up book suggestion…thaks
Yeah, seems to be backordered with 14 on waitlist…grin
Connect with me through my moniker linked web site email address at bottom of page

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 25 2022 7:01 utc | 273

Will USUK explode a nuclear bomb in Ukraine and blame Russia?
Almost all of their wars are based on false flags. They are absolutely mentally capable of doing so, if they can’t cause another Chernobyl at Zaporizhe. The narrative was already set up.
https://rumble.com/v1hq9sj-will-the-usuk-explode-a-nuclear-bomb-in-ukraine-and-blame-russian.html

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2022 7:08 utc | 274

Will USUK explode a nuclear bomb in Ukraine and blame Russia?
@unimperator | Sep 25 2022 7:08 utc | 274

It is more likely we see 737-MAX converted into drones first.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 25 2022 7:16 utc | 275

A survey of the military, diplomatic, economic, technological and geopolitical options available to Russia in escalating the SMO over the next 6 to 24 months:
Russian military options for escalation:
1. Destruction of all railway power substations in *western* ukraine.
2. Destruction of all power and water supplies to Kiev, Lvov and other key cities in western Ukraine.
3. Closure (by missile strike) of the Transcarpathian railway tunnel
4. Destruction (by missile strike) of key dams in *western* Ukraine
5. Complete closure of the the port of Odessa
6. Destruction of main wired telecomms infrastructure and cellular towers.
7. Destruction of all major bridges in *western* Ukraine
8. Heavy carpet bombing runs of major AFU troop concentrations around the line of contact
9. Land bridge to Transdnistria, and basing of expanded Russian forces in Transdnistria
Russian geopolitical options:
10. Supply of S300 – S400 systems to Syria, Iran and North Korea.
11. Recognition of the Taliban as the government of Afghanistan
12. Removal of any/all sanctions against NK and Iran observed in conjunction with UN ‘law’
13. Enhancement of ICBM forces in the Arctic, Kaliningrad, Crimea
14. Launch of additional military satellites
15. Supply of S300 – s400 air defense systems to Venezuela
16. Supply of strategic submarine systems to Iran and North Korea
17. Incorporation of Transdnistria into the Russian Federation
18. Incorporation of Odessa into the Russian Federation
Russian Diplomatic options
19. Full disclosure online of documents captured from the American biolabs in Ukraine
20. Full disclosure online of Ukrainian PoW confessions
21. Creation of a direct UN rival organisation for the Global South, Central Asia, Eastasia, Southeast Asia, Africa
22. Creation of a humanitarian supply organisation for direct supply of humanitarian grain, gas, oil supplies to countries like Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Gaza, Lebanon
23. Proposal and implementation of a second meeting location for the UN GA in neutral territory to prevent visa sanctioning of officials
24. Recognition of the Native American genocide committed under American colonialism.
25. Recognition of the Mau Mau genocide committed under British Colonialism
26. Formal condemnation of any UN claims of Chinese Uighur genocides
27. Full restoration of economic and diplomatic relations with North Korea with full military and infrastructure development assistance to NK.
Economic options
28. Ban of neon direct sale to western countries (via China only!)
29. Ban of titanium direct sale to western countries (via Iran only)
30. Ban of gas supplies to Europe *except via* Iran, Armenia, Belarus and other friendly nations
31. Further development competitor systems to SWIFT
32. Development of offshore banking solutions to compete with those offered by Switzerland, Cayman, Isle of Man, Guernsey etc.
33. Massive expansion of Aluminium production and sale to reduce the competitiveness of Western aluminium producers
34. Implementation of an International Development Bank along the lines of the Asian Development Bank for Central Asia/Southeast Asia
35. Completion of Power of Siberia 2 (2022 – 2024)
36. Completion of the Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan pipeline to China
Technological options
37. Collaboration with China and Iran on development of semiconductor fabs including EUV systems to rival ASML.
38. Ramp up of civilian nuclear reactor projects in the global south, middle east
39. Subsidy of a Russian private sector rival satellite network to Starlink
40. Massive expansion of the Russian drone development program
41. Complete replacement of Microsoft products with a rival software ecosystem developed by a russian, chinese, indian and iranian conglomerate.
42. Nullification of all US technology copyrights and royalties
43. Creation and subsidised development of a rival to Google capable of serving Central Asia, South/East Asia, Africa and South America
(I’ve excluded world ending options, of course)
I might only have covered a few of the available options and left out their caveats, however I think this list might explain Putin’s generally calm and cheerful demeanor …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 7:30 utc | 276

Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:28 utc | 259
Great comments thank you a good resumé
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 5:45 utc | 262

+1👏

Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 25 2022 7:35 utc | 277

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 25 2022 6:36 utc | 271
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 25 2022 6:31 utc | 270
Posted by: Giyane | Sep 25 2022 6:26 utc | 269
This sounds suspiciously like *work* … oh well, there goes the next few Sundays 🙁

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 7:36 utc | 278

to all that kept complaining about russia being too slow…
things are about to go a lot faster
the reason the pace was slow before was that all the legal and diplomatic steps simply take a long time. have you ever had to deal with any legal matter? 6 months is not that long for a legal matter.
what russia has done is gained ROW support (diplomatic) and a legal basis, not to mention domestic support for a war.
of course, this is what nato has wanted for a long time. not sure why

Posted by: ct | Sep 25 2022 7:37 utc | 279

@ Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 7:30 utc | 276
Most important of all is full INDUSTRIAL mobilisation. And a few more years…
How many tanks, rounds , hypersons and S500 to produce in order to deter crazy VdL/Boring/Schultz & McRond to declare war to Russia?
Or annihilate all of us.

Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 25 2022 7:42 utc | 280

@Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:28 utc | 259
Masterful summary! Really well done.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2022 7:47 utc | 281

Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 25 2022 7:42 utc | 280

How many tanks, rounds , hypersons and S500 to produce in order to deter crazy VdL/Boring/Schultz & McRond to declare war to Russia?

Here Russia will have to make a decision: To greatly open up and commercialise their weapons industry in order to achieve economies of scale (with it’s attendant risks) or to try and achieve massive scale of weapons production in the same way the USSR did (with all it’s consequences).
Russia will have to adopt a totally new marketing, co-development and sales doctrine in order to expand it’s arms industry without bankrupting itself in the process i.e Rank Capitalism. In doing this the Russian State runs the risk of falling prey to it’s own military industrial complex as well as losing some of it’s intellectual property and technology secrets.
On the other hand, automation and other technologies for mass production have advanced significantly in recent times. The Russian Federation may be far more capable of mass producing arms than the USSR was.
What’s certain is that to achieve the correct industrial scale it cannot adopt the unsustainable methods used by the USSR to support it’s military capabilities. Some degree of sustainability through profit motive is needed …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 7:53 utc | 282

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 25 2022 6:26 utc | 269
A little OT, and apologies if you’ve already seen this, someone posted a link the other day that I’ve just got around to reading.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/covert-british-information-war-targets-russia/281975/
The article is merit-worthy in any case but it attributes a quote to Oleksiy Arestovych that I wasn’t aware of and which supports the view of a deliberate, western backed campaign, of warfare-as-snuff-horror, which I think we share:
Arestovych has also over the years made numerous deeply concerning comments endorsing ISIS, in particular the terror group’s “cruelty for show,” which he believes to be a “wise strategy.”
“They are acting very correctly…Those methods, the world needs them, even though this means terrorism, medieval levels of cruelty, burning people alive, shooting them or cutting off their heads. This is absolutely the way of the future,” he said in one TV interview.

Note that the Arestovych we know is entirely a creature of, and product of, the western covert propaganda industry. Assuming those are Arestovych‘s words, he is assuredly not the source of the opinions he is espousing, that worldview is distinctly Anglo-Israeli.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 25 2022 8:01 utc | 283

karlof1 #203
Thank you for the links to Lavrov at the UN.
The Indian Minister for External Affairs has made an excellent and noteworthy contribution as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e_secPfW7U
It is worth considering as the multilateral world emerges from the shadows of colonial bullying.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 25 2022 8:17 utc | 284

Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 7:30 utc | 276
Two tiny suggestions
« 32. Development of offshore banking solutions to compete with those offered by Switzerland, Cayman, Isle of Man, Guernsey etc. »
A minor quibble- the problem for Russians, and all others, is not so much those havens you list, but their Asian rivals, UAE, Turkey : all offshore if it’s not your own is risky, and if it is your own it’s never really offhsore
Why not one of those inbetween status indetermined Caspian or Black Sea mini semi-states
‘Completion of Power of Siberia 2 (2022 – 2024)’
Another mini idea – add in development of RF East, agricultural and industrial, in collaboration with CCP : already this is developing more or less de facto with many China immigrants and capital
https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/the-dormant-breadbasket-of-the-asia-pacific/
https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/ag/blogs/an-urbans-rural-view/blog-post/2021/02/19/russia-dominate-world-agriculture

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 8:24 utc | 285

@Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 5:28 utc | 259
Masterful summary! Really well done.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2022 7:47 utc | 281

Seconded, thanks for highlighting a great post.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 25 2022 8:30 utc | 286

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 25 2022 8:24 utc | 285

« 32. Development of offshore banking solutions to compete with those offered by Switzerland, Cayman, Isle of Man, Guernsey etc. »
Why not one of those inbetween status indetermined Caspian or Black Sea mini semi-states

Absolutely. Crimea comes to mind. Sakhalin. Perhaps even Svalbard (caveats apply). Of course, these would be offered to an international market, not for Russians. The objective is literally to eat into market share of the UK, US, EU as well as to gather intelligence on those foreigners rich enough to keep their money in offshore accounts …

Another mini idea – add in development of RF East, agricultural and industrial, in collaboration with CCP : already this is developing more or less de facto with many China immigrants and capital

This appears to be part of the long term strategic planning of the RF. Something the west is desperately trying to undermine …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 8:39 utc | 287

Russel Texas Bentley warns of another try to convert Zaparozia NPP into a WMD.
https://t.me/TXDPR/2268

… Over the course of two nights, 17 Ukrainian boats have been conducting a training session on landing Ukrainian military personnel on an unequipped coast on the Dnieper River. According to the plan of the exercise, a company of enemy personnel (up to 110 people) is practicing landing in the vicinity of Volnoandreevka in the dark.
The Turkish UAV Bayraktar TB2 accompanies the group, “suspended” at a distance of 50 km from the landing site. The very fact of the ongoing preparation confirms the seriousness of the intentions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to regain control over the power plant. Taking into account the fact that next week the Zaporizhia region will already be part of the Russian Federation, an attempt to seize the nuclear power plant can be made in the coming days.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 25 2022 8:40 utc | 288

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 8:39 utc | 287
You think the Russian Law on Equity and Trusts will be acceptable ? The independent judiciary with centuries of precedent on Trust law which Russia is renowned for ?
You think the banking system which has Russia at the forefront of safe jurisdictions globally is relevant ?
The Chancery Court that Russia perfected 600 years ago ?
Do you ever let facts get in the way of spurious ideas ?

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 25 2022 9:00 utc | 289

To greatly open up and commercialise their weapons industry in order to achieve economies of scale (with it’s attendant risks) or to try and achieve massive scale of weapons production in the same way the USSR did (with all it’s consequences).
How did USSR “commercialise” weapons production ?
Which Western countries have “commercialised” weapons production ??? BAe is wholly dependent on the Pentagon. UK cannot even build a nuclear submarine without US reactor patent licences and leasing nuclear launch missiles……….and could not build an aircraft carrier without Thales.
Rheinmetall needs a licence to export as does KMW or Diehl.
Russia has “economies of scale” with its customers in Algeria, China, India, Indonesia, – it is close to UK in market share and both are a long way behind USA with 54% share.
China exports computers and mobile phones but not aircraft carriers (nor does USA) or artillery ……….quite why anyone in Europe buys US kit is astounding since it is sub scale in procurement.
UK built two Blair A/Cs without aircraft or steam catapult or defensive missiles………they need to dock in US to borrow US F-35s – the only aircraft that can operate on them. UK built two aircraft carriers for USMC pilots – and sends nuclear subs to King’s Bay, GA to pick up leased nuclear missiles from US stocks to go on patrol………
No EU country cannot afford enough F-35s to fly independently of US………they buy bits and pieces to add to US capabilities bit cannot act independently.
Fortunately Mary O’Leary with her spending spree on Tory Donors – £411 billion more Debt on top of Johnson’s £600 bn – has made certain UK will not spend any more on Defence and the military will not get funded to replace what they are giving Ukraine………
It is all smoke and mirrors

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 25 2022 9:10 utc | 290

Thanks b. Excellent. The subject is sad, infuriating, important,…, yet nothing new. You picked a beautiful instance and described its idiocy masterly.
The fish always stinks from the head down. The NYT is one of the “leading media” a.k.a “transmission belt of the oligarchs” which dictate to the whole MSM, what is “truth” and what is not. And in “whole” I explicitly include “international”.
Just two fine exemplary tips of the iceberg: (1) In 2014, two “journalists” from the leading German weekly “DIE ZEIT” sued a TV satire team for claiming that DIE ZEIT is connected with transatlantic lobby groups. Josef Joffe being member / board in eight such organizations and Jochen Bittner in three Think Tanks. They lost the case; The court confirmed the claimed facts. – (2) In an opinion poll (2016) by the Spanish Journalist Association, 74.8% of the interviewed members revealed that they alter the contents of their works because of reprisals and fear of dismissing, and 57% admitted that they self-censor in anticipatory obedience.
Conclusion: MSM “journalists” are mere psyop prostitutes, blackmailed by loss of job and livelihood to spam propaganda narratives (I include brainwash like celeb trivia, horoscopes and similar hoaxes here) and omit important facts behind walls of silence. The MSM claim that the German popular term “LÜGENPRESSE” (lying press), coined by grass roots (otherwise IMHO little sympathies deserving) far-right activists, is a conspiracy theory, is in this light nothing but just another lie.

Posted by: OttoE | Sep 25 2022 9:14 utc | 291

@Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 8:39 utc | 287

« 32. Development of offshore banking solutions to compete with those offered by Switzerland, Cayman, Isle of Man, Guernsey etc. »
Why not one of those inbetween status indetermined Caspian or Black Sea mini semi-states
Absolutely. Crimea comes to mind. Sakhalin. Perhaps even Svalbard (caveats apply).

Svalbard for offshore banking? Nice thought, but it does not seem realistic. Svalbard (a.k.a. Spitsbergen) is under Norwegian sovereignty according to the Svalbard Treaty. Norway is a NATO country.

Article 1
The High Contracting Parties undertake to recognize, subject to the stipulations of the present Treaty, the full and absolute sovereignty of Norway over the Archipelago of Spitsbergen, comprising, with Bear Island of Beeren-Eiland, all the islands situated between 10° and 35° longitude East of Greenwich and between 74° and 81° latitude North, especially West Spitsbergen, North-East Land, Barents Island, Edge Island, Wiche Islands, Hope Island or Hopen-Eiland, and Prince Charles Forland, together with all islands great or small and rocks appertaining thereto. (See annexed map)

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2022 9:15 utc | 292

Arch Bungle #259
Bravo. Nice digest indeed.
and then
aristodemos #260
A sweep of history in short, curt strokes.
Made my day:))

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 25 2022 9:29 utc | 293

AT THE CROSSROADS of two latest threads, and a Sunday morning, too.
Christian religion is immensely important as a basis for understanding, I think. In essence the process of real and ongoing Cultural Revolution is one of the total cancellation of the Christ and two thousand of years with Him. The Revelation has to be hidden under thick layers of Crap about Everything. The Revelation of Human Condition is to be cancelled to re-establish slavery, the most profitable business of all times.
The Grand Idea of St. Klaus, St. Greta, Roundtable of Davos and their fellow saints is to turn humanity back to the Temple Religion of the High Priests, where to sacrifice a lamb you had to buy it for the temple money. Everything, absolutely everything should be measured against this.
You will NEED to pay for your climate sins, you’ll pay for your ultimate sin of being born imperfect yet capable of things unknown. You’ll pay for the Destruction of Nature that the High Priests will consider themselves guardians of and speakers for. We know now that the rivers and mountains and birds and wilde beasts have their rights, too. As they don’t speak our language, who else is there to stand for them but our priests.
Food for thought – while the CoronaCheckApp was about to be established in Netherlands, there were additional features imagined by TNO research lab to this App.

…every Dutch citizen should receive CO2 budget for travel, meat and energy, anyone who exceeds the limit must pay extra. Each household should have a limited amount of CO2 to spend…

The question now arising is such – after the winter of our discontent, will something like this App be introduced to regiment our use of energy in Europe? There’d be no better time for this, but do they have the balls for it?
[Here is Thierry Baudet in Dutch Tweede Kamer, I know, he’s a naughty boy]
PS. As for Russia being a real alternative, I do not know. She doesn’t want to submit to the Theocracy of British Crown, that’s for sure. But historically, Soviet Russia was a thoroughly modernist project, which brought huge changes to the territory of former Russian Empire.

Posted by: js | Sep 25 2022 9:30 utc | 294

Re: js
Naughty my ass … extreme rightwing of Nordic “Boreaal” neo-Nazi … has nothing with Russia or Putin … is a Trump-minor … simply translates the dumbest literature on Trump and Qanon conspiracy … one of the laziest “politicians” on the scene in The Hague. Lovely supporter, Eva Lotte Louise Vlaardingerbroek does lots of promotion for his philosophical thoughts … not very original, mostly copy-cat.

Posted by: Oui | Sep 25 2022 9:55 utc | 295

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 25 2022 9:15 utc | 292

Svalbard for offshore banking? Nice thought, but it does not seem realistic. Svalbard (a.k.a. Spitsbergen) is under Norwegian sovereignty according to the Svalbard Treaty. Norway is a NATO country.

Aha 😉 You spotted the caveat. Of course, this is due to Russia acknowledging Norwegian Sovereignty over Svalbard under certain conditions. This all depends on how pair shaped things go …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 25 2022 10:34 utc | 296

Lawrow in UNGA 22.09.2022 / for german barflies:
“Sehr geehrte Frau Präsidentin!
Exzellenzen,
Kolleginnen und Kollegen,
soweit ich weiß, wurde das heutige Treffen durch den Wunsch einiger Delegationen motiviert, das Thema “Straflosigkeit” in der Ukraine zu erörtern. Ich denke, das kommt genau zum richtigen Zeitpunkt. Dieser Begriff spiegelt genau das wider, was in diesem Land seit 2014 geschieht. Nationalradikale Kräfte, ausgesprochene Russophobe und Neonazis, kamen damals durch einen bewaffneten Putsch mit direkter Unterstützung westlicher Länder an die Macht. Unmittelbar danach begaben sie sich auf einen Weg der Gesetzlosigkeit und der totalen Missachtung grundlegender Menschenrechte und Freiheiten – des Rechts auf Leben, des Rechts auf freie Meinungsäußerung, des Rechts auf Zugang zu Informationen, des Rechts auf Gewissensfreiheit und des Rechts auf den Gebrauch der eigenen Muttersprache.
Die Verbrechen auf dem Maidan im Februar 2014 sind noch immer ungesühnt. Die Täter der ungeheuerlichen Tragödie vom 2. Mai 2014 in Odessa, bei der rund 50 Menschen im dortigen Gewerkschaftshaus bei lebendigem Leib verbrannt und getötet wurden, sind weder gefunden noch bestraft worden. Die politischen Morde an Oles Busina, Pawel Scheremet und anderen Persönlichkeiten des öffentlichen Lebens und Journalisten stehen auch in dieser Reihe ungesühnter Verbrechen. Trotzdem versuchen sie, uns heute ein völlig anderes Narrativ über die russische Aggression als Hauptursache für alle Probleme aufzudrängen.
Dabei wird die Tatsache ignoriert, dass die ukrainische Armee und die Milizen der nationalistischen Formationen seit mehr als acht Jahren die Bewohner des Donbass ungestraft töten und ermorden, nur weil sie (die Bewohner des Donbass) sich geweigert haben, die Ergebnisse des verbrecherischen, blutigen und verfassungsfeindlichen Staatsstreichs in Kiew anzuerkennen. Weil sie beschlossen haben, für ihre von der ukrainischen Verfassung garantierten Rechte einzutreten, einschließlich des Rechts auf den freien Gebrauch ihrer russischen Muttersprache.
Erinnern Sie sich daran, wie der damalige Ministerpräsident Jazenjuk 2015 sagte, dass im Donbass “Untermenschen” lebten? Auch der derzeitige Präsident W. A. Selenskij ist nicht weit hinter ihm. In einem Interview im September 2021 sagte er auf die Frage, was er von den Menschen im Donbass halte, es gebe Menschen und es gebe “Kreaturen”, “Exemplare”. Dies ist ein durchgängiges Merkmal des ukrainischen Regimes, sowohl unter Poroschenko als auch unter Selenskij.
Sie haben alle, die mit den Ergebnissen des Staatsstreichs nicht einverstanden sind, zu Terroristen erklärt. Seit acht Jahren führt das Kiewer Regime eine “militärische Operation” gegen die Zivilbevölkerung durch. In der Ukraine findet seit vielen Jahren eine totale Mobilisierung der gesamten erwachsenen Bevölkerung, einschließlich der Frauen, statt, um sie in die Reihen der nationalistischen Bataillone und der ukrainischen Streitkräfte zu rekrutieren.
Während die Kiewer Behörden heuchlerisch behaupteten, den Minsker Vereinbarungen verpflichtet zu sein, haben sie deren Umsetzung offen und ungestraft sabotiert. Über den Donbass wurde eine Finanz-, Verkehrs- und Energieblockade verhängt. Die Bewohner der Region sind von Sozialleistungen, Renten, Gehältern, Bankdienstleistungen, Kommunikation, Bildung und Gesundheitsfürsorge abgeschnitten. Sie wurden der grundlegenden Bürgerrechte beraubt, einschließlich derer, die im Internationalen Pakt über wirtschaftliche, soziale und kulturelle Rechte (1966) sowie im Internationalen Pakt über bürgerliche und politische Rechte von 1966 garantiert sind.
Irgendwann war Selenskij es leid, sich zu verstellen, und erklärte, das Minsker “Maßnahmenpaket” sei nur notwendig, um die gegen Russland verhängten Sanktionen aufrechtzuerhalten. Sein Vorgänger und Mitverfasser der Minsker Vereinbarungen, Petro Poroschenko, war sogar noch offener. Vor einigen Monaten erklärte er öffentlich und stolz, dass weder er noch irgendjemand sonst in der Ukraine jemals vorhatte, diese von ihm unterzeichneten Vereinbarungen umzusetzen. Sie wurden nur benötigt, um Zeit zu gewinnen, um von westlichen Ländern Waffen für den Krieg mit der Russischen Föderation zu erhalten. Der Sekretär des ukrainischen Nationalen Sicherheits- und Verteidigungsrates, A. M. Danilow, äußerte sich in diesem Sinne.
Das Kiewer Regime verdankt seine Straffreiheit seinen westlichen Kuratoren, vor allem Deutschland und Frankreich, und natürlich den Vereinigten Staaten. Anstatt von der Führung in Kiew die Umsetzung der Minsker Vereinbarungen zu fordern, haben Berlin und Paris zynisch die Augen vor den offenen Drohungen Kiews verschlossen, das “Donbass-Problem” mit Gewalt zu lösen – dem sogenannten “Plan B”.
In den letzten Jahren hat das Kiewer Regime einen umfassenden Frontalangriff auf die russische Sprache geführt. Es hat ungestraft gegen die Rechte der russischen und russischsprachigen Bevölkerung der Ukraine verstoßen. Es wurden skandalöse “Sprach”-Gesetze verabschiedet: “Über das Bildungswesen” (2017), “Über die Gewährleistung des Funktionierens der ukrainischen Sprache als Staatssprache” (2019), “Über die allgemeine Sekundarschulbildung” (2020) und “Über die indigenen Völker der Ukraine” (2021). Sie alle zielen darauf ab, die russische Sprache zu verdrängen, ja sie sogar ganz zu verbieten.
Gleichzeitig wurden Gesetze verabschiedet, die die Theorie und Praxis des Nationalsozialismus fördern. Kiew ignorierte die zaghaften Empfehlungen der Venedig-Kommission des Europarats, des Amtes des Hohen Kommissars der Vereinten Nationen für Menschenrechte und des Hohen Kommissars der OSZE für nationale Minderheiten, das Sprachengesetz zu korrigieren. Diese multilateralen Strukturen haben ihrerseits nicht den Mut gefunden (vielleicht war es ihnen einfach nicht erlaubt), die ukrainischen Behörden zur Erfüllung ihrer internationalen Menschenrechtsverpflichtungen zu bewegen.
Das ukrainische Bildungsministerium hat die russische Sprache und die russische Literatur aus dem Lehrplan gestrichen. Wie in Nazideutschland werden Bücher in russischer Sprache verboten und vernichtet, und Denkmäler russischer Schriftsteller werden zerstört.
Mit staatlicher Unterstützung wird eine Ideologie der nationalen Intoleranz gegenüber ethnischen Russen durchgesetzt. Heute schämen sich die Funktionäre des Landes nicht mehr ihrer nazistischen Identität und rufen offen und ungestraft zum Mord an russischen Menschen auf.
Hier sind einige Beispiele. Der ukrainische Botschafter in Kasachstan, P. Y. Wrublewski, der sich derzeit in Kiew aufhält, äußerte sich am 22. August dieses Jahres in einem Interview wie folgt: “Wir versuchen, so viele wie möglich von ihnen (die Russen) zu töten. Je mehr Russen wir jetzt töten, desto weniger werden unsere Kinder töten müssen. Das ist alles.” Hat jemand darauf geachtet? Der Bürgermeister von Dnjepropetrowsk, B. A. Filatow, äußerte sich im letzten Frühjahr in diesem Sinne: “Die Zeit der kalten Wut ist gekommen. Jetzt haben wir das volle moralische Recht, diese Nicht-Menschen in aller Ruhe und mit absolut ungetrübtem Verstand überall auf der Welt zu töten, und zwar zeitlich unbegrenzt und in größtmöglicher Menge.” Am 13. September dieses Jahres erklärte der Sekretär des Nationalen Sicherheits- und Verteidigungsrates, A. M. Danilow: “In den Siedlungen, in die die ukrainischen Streitkräfte eindringen, werden die Bewohner ukrainisiert, ohne ihre Meinung zu berücksichtigen. Dies wird nicht nur Russen, sondern auch Vertreter anderer Nationalitäten betreffen. Wenn Sie den Wunsch haben, zusätzlich andere Sprachen zu studieren, Rumänisch, Polnisch, Hebräisch, dann tun Sie das bitte, aber nicht auf Kosten unseres Staates. Sie können Ihre Bildung auf eigene Kosten erweitern.”
Unnötig zu erwähnen, dass all diese russophoben Eskapaden völlig ungestraft blieben. Es geht nicht nur um Russophobie. Er hat sich über Vertreter anderer Nationalitäten, die in der Ukraine leben, geäußert.
Den Höhepunkt bildete Selenskijs Interview vom 5. August 2021, in dem er allen, die sich als Russen fühlen, riet, zum Wohle ihrer Kinder und Enkelkinder nach Russland zu gehen. “Zieht nach Russland”, sagte er.
Ich habe den Eindruck, dass die Entscheidungen, die die Menschen in einer Reihe von Regionen der Ukraine jetzt treffen, um Referenden abzuhalten, eine Antwort auf seine Wünsche sind.
Unter dem Deckmantel der Bekämpfung der “russischen Aggression” und des “Separatismus” in der Ukraine wird die Verfolgung von Dissidenten verschärft. Im März dieses Jahres wurden elf politische Parteien unter dem Vorwand ihrer “Verbindungen zu Russland” verboten. Die führenden oppositionellen Fernsehsender sind seit Langem abgeschaltet. Der Regierung unerwünschte Websites wurden gesperrt. Journalisten werden verfolgt, wenn sie versuchen, eine andere Meinung als die offizielle zu vertreten. Die prominente ukrainische Sozialaktivistin E. Bereschnaja, die wiederholt vor den Vereinten Nationen und der OSZE über das Aufkommen des Neonazismus in der Ukraine gesprochen hat, wird in den Gefängnissen des SBU festgehalten.
Wir haben keinen Zweifel daran, dass sich die Ukraine endgültig in einen totalitären Nazi-Staat verwandelt hat, in dem die Normen des humanitären Völkerrechts ungestraft missachtet werden. Kein Wunder, dass die ukrainischen Streitkräfte und nationalistischen Bataillone terroristische Taktiken anwenden und Zivilisten als menschliche Schutzschilde benutzen.
Vor diesem Hintergrund ist die Haltung derjenigen Staaten, die die Ukraine mit Waffen und militärischer Ausrüstung vollpumpen und die ukrainischen Streitkräfte ausbilden, besonders zynisch. Das Ziel liegt auf der Hand (sie verbergen es nicht, sondern geben es bekannt): die Feindseligkeiten so lange wie möglich hinauszuzögern, trotz der Verluste und Zerstörungen, um Russland zu schwächen und auszuzehren. Diese Linie bedeutet, dass die westlichen Länder direkt in den Ukraine-Konflikt verwickelt sind und somit zu einer Partei werden. Auch das bewusste Schüren dieses Konflikts durch den “kollektiven Westen” bleibt ungestraft. Sie werden sich ja in der Tat nicht selbst bestrafen.
Wir machen uns keine Illusionen darüber, dass die russischen Streitkräfte und die DVR- und LVR-Milizen heute nicht nur mit den neonazistischen Formationen des Kiewer Regimes konfrontiert sind, sondern auch mit dem militärischen Apparat des “kollektiven” Westens. Mithilfe von modernen Systemen, Flugzeugen, Schiffen, Satelliten und strategischen Drohnen versorgt die NATO die Streitkräfte in Echtzeit mit nachrichtendienstlichen Erkenntnissen, und sie werden dazu angestachelt, dass Russland auf dem Schlachtfeld besiegt (wie EU-Beamte ausdrücklich erklären) und zur Strafe jeglicher Souveränität beraubt werden muss. Dies ist kein latenter Rassismus mehr, sondern ein offener.
Vor dem Hintergrund des massiven Beschusses von Siedlungen im Donbass freut sich Selenskij über die Wirksamkeit der westlichen Waffen. Hier sein Zitat: “Endlich hat man das Gefühl, dass die westliche Artillerie, die Waffen, die wir von unseren Partnern erhalten haben, sehr wirkungsvoll sind. Die Genauigkeit ist wirklich so, wie sie sein muss”, erklärte der Leiter dieser staatlichen Einrichtung zynisch. Gleichzeitig wurden in den beschossenen Siedlungen keine militärischen oder strategischen Ziele getroffen. Nur die Zivilbevölkerung des Donbass leidet.
Seit Ende Juli dieses Jahres verminen die ukrainischen Streitkräfte das Zentrum von Donezk und seine Vororte aus der Ferne mit verbotenen Lepestok-Antipersonenminen. Ihr Einsatz verstößt in grober Weise gegen das Übereinkommen über das Verbot von Antipersonenminen von 1997, das die Ukraine ratifiziert hat, sowie gegen das Zweite Protokoll zum Genfer Übereinkommen über konventionelle Waffen (Verbot von Minen ohne Selbstzerstörer).
Solche Gräueltaten waren möglich und bleiben ungesühnt, weil die Vereinigten Staaten und ihre Verbündeten mit Duldung internationaler Menschenrechtsinstitutionen die Verbrechen des Kiewer Regimes seit acht Jahren systematisch vertuschen und ihre Politik gegenüber Herrn Selenskij auf dem bekannten amerikanischen Grundsatz aufbauen: “Natürlich ist er ein Hurensohn, aber er ist unser Hurensohn.”
Die unbequeme Wahrheit, die das schöne Bild von der Ukraine als Opfer russischer Aggression trübt, wird fleißig beschönigt und manchmal ganz unverhohlen ausgeblendet. Selbst die westliche Menschenrechtsorganisation Amnesty International, die kaum im Verdacht stehen kann, mit Russland zu sympathisieren, wurde scharf kritisiert und als Kreml-Agent gebrandmarkt. Nur weil sie in ihrem Bericht die bekannten Tatsachen bestätigte, dass Kiew Kampfstellungen und schwere Waffen in zivilen Gebieten stationiert.
Der verbrecherische Beschuss des AKW Saporoschje durch Kämpfer des Kiewer Regimes, der die Gefahr einer nuklearen Katastrophe heraufbeschwört, bleibt ungesühnt. Und dies, obwohl Mitarbeiter der Internationalen Atomenergie-Organisation (IAEO) seit dem 1. September dieses Jahres ständig in der Anlage anwesend sind, und es nicht schwer ist, die für den Beschuss verantwortliche Seite zu ermitteln.
Ich möchte Sie daran erinnern, dass der Besuch der IAEO im Kernkraftwerk Saporoschje künstlich hinausgezögert wurde, obwohl bereits am 3. Juni dieses Jahres alle Einzelheiten koordiniert worden waren und die Mission ungestört dorthin hätte reisen können. Dann kam es zu einer unangemessenen Situation, als die Sicherheitsabteilung des UN-Sekretariats sich weigerte, die von Russland und der Agentur vereinbarte Route zu genehmigen. Dann begann sie zu behaupten, dass die IAEO alle Parameter der Mission selbst bestimmen würde. Dieses nicht besonders ehrwürdige Verhalten verzögerte den Besuch der Mission der Agentur im AKW Saporoschje um drei Monate.
Es besteht große Besorgnis über das Schicksal der russischen Soldaten, die in die Hände ukrainischer Nationalisten gefallen sind. Es gibt zahlreiche Beweise dafür, dass sie unter Verletzung des humanitären Völkerrechts misshandelt wurden, einschließlich Hinrichtungen im Schnellverfahren. Ich bin sicher, dass diejenigen, die sich für die wahren Ereignisse in der Ukraine interessieren, Videoaufnahmen des Massakers der ukrainischen Nazis an russischen Kriegsgefangenen gesehen haben, die mit auf dem Rücken gefesselten Händen auf den Boden geworfen und in den Kopf geschossen wurden. Hat sich eines der hier vertretenen Länder zu diesem Verbrechen geäußert?
Wir haben zahlreiche Beweise für diese und andere kriminelle Handlungen des Kiewer Regimes, die seit 2014 regelmäßig begangen werden. Die russischen Strafverfolgungsbehörden nehmen in Zusammenarbeit mit ihren Kollegen aus der DVR und der LVR die Fakten der Verbrechen sorgfältig auf und untersuchen sie. Die Beteiligung von mehr als 220 Personen wurde festgestellt, darunter Vertreter des Oberkommandos der ukrainischen Streitkräfte und Kommandeure von Militäreinheiten, die Zivilisten beschossen. Gegen Bürger des Vereinigten Königreichs, Kanadas, der USA und der Niederlande wird wegen Söldneraktivitäten und krimineller Handlungen in der Ukraine ermittelt. Ich versichere Ihnen, dass alle Verantwortlichen, unabhängig von ihrer Nationalität, zur Verantwortung gezogen werden.
Ich möchte Sie noch einmal auf Folgendes aufmerksam machen. Als sich die russischen und ukrainischen Unterhändler Ende März dieses Jahres in Istanbul praktisch mit den von Kiew vorgeschlagenen Parametern für eine Einigung einverstanden erklärten, kam es einige Tage später zu einer Tragödie in Butscha. Es verbleibt kein Zweifel, dass es sich um eine Inszenierung handelt. Unmittelbar nach diesem inszenierten Vorfall schürten unsere westlichen Kollegen die Hysterie und brachten ein neues Paket von Sanktionen gegen die Russische Föderation auf den Weg, indem sie uns beschuldigten, Zivilisten zu töten. Seitdem, als dieser Propagandaeffekt eintrat, erinnert sich niemand mehr an dieses Butscha. Außer uns. In Anwesenheit des Generalsekretärs und verehrter Minister appelliere ich noch einmal: Bitte veranlassen Sie die ukrainischen Behörden zu dem elementaren Schritt, die Namen der Menschen zu veröffentlichen, deren Leichen in Butscha gezeigt wurden. Ich habe dies seit Monaten gefordert. Keiner hört zu und keiner will reagieren.
Sehr geehrter Herr Generalsekretär,
machen Sie wenigstens von Ihrer Autorität Gebrauch, bitte. Ich denke, es wird für alle nützlich sein, sich mit dieser Episode auseinanderzusetzen.
Wir haben auf die verstärkte Tätigkeit der internationalen Justiz in Bezug auf die Ukraine aufmerksam gemacht. Es werden einige “Bemühungen” zur Untersuchung von Verbrechen in der Ukraine angekündigt, die dem russischen Militär zugeschrieben werden. All dies ist Auftragswerk, das können wir sehr gut sehen.
Weder der blutige Staatsstreich in Kiew 2014 noch die Tragödie in Odessa am 2. Mai 2014 noch der Beschuss friedlicher Städte im Donbass noch die Bombardierung von Lugansk durch Flugzeuge am 2. Juni 2014 noch viele andere Fakten haben zu einer kohärenten Reaktion des Internationalen Strafgerichtshofs (IStGH) geführt. Mehr als 3.000 Anschuldigungen wegen Verbrechen gegen Bewohner des Donbass wurden an den IStGH übermittelt. Es hat keine Reaktion gegeben. Offensichtlich hat die Führung dieses “Justizorgans” nun von “oben” den Befehl erhalten, eine energische Tätigkeit zu entfalten. Wir haben kein Vertrauen in dieses Gremium mehr. Acht lange Jahre haben wir vergeblich darauf gewartet, dass der Kampf gegen die Straflosigkeit in der Ukraine beginnt. Wir erwarten von dieser und einer Reihe anderer internationaler Institutionen keine Gerechtigkeit mehr. Die Zeit des Wartens ist vorbei.
Alles, was ich gesagt habe, bestätigt noch einmal, dass die Entscheidung für die Durchführung der besonderen Militäroperation unvermeidlich war. Wir haben mehr als einmal darüber gesprochen. Wir haben zahlreiche Beweise vorgelegt, die zeigen, wie die Ukraine sich darauf vorbereitete, die Rolle des “Anti-Russlands” zu spielen, ein Sprungbrett für die Schaffung und Umsetzung von Bedrohungen der russischen Sicherheit zu sein. Ich kann Ihnen versichern, dass wir dies nicht zulassen werden.”

Posted by: njet | Sep 25 2022 10:44 utc | 297

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In time of war … enduring wars 😊

Posted by: Oui | Sep 25 2022 10:50 utc | 298

to Brian Macfarlaine:
https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/how-the-west-was-won-russias-victory
I like this one:
“For the Americans, the Ukraine was just a convenient pivot point to leverage the breakup and dissolution of the Russian Federation as a first step to doing the same in China. Not that they had a real “plan”. The US doesn’t really “plan”, as the sneaky, weaky Russkies and Chinese do — they react. Planning is for wimps.”
Absolutely true. There is no plan.
Whoever plans a war wisely recognizes the enemy, its means of power and options, anticipates its reactions, weighs options for action and discusses them with his partners. The US is unable to do this because they believe they don’t need to. They only know the escalation of violence as they claim to be the masters of the world. A real empire is beyond “plans”, because plans can fail. The US cannot fail. Divide ed impera.
The USA knows only two types of states. Those that must get destroyed and those that will be used to destroy. Their ideal is a world of killer bee states, so obedient that they need neither be offered anything nor threatened. Because they just do what they’re told to do. Germany. America loves Germany, its most industrious killer bee.
Let’s be glad that they are so stupid and arrogant, because of course such a concept of power has no future. The failure of the USA will take place as an increasing distance and turning away of its allies.
Can’t imagine what would happen if this monsters were smart.

Posted by: njet | Sep 25 2022 11:14 utc | 299

Meanwhile, Lymansk is falling. Do you folks notice at all how the west is not panicking? A central part of Putins rhetoric is that we will not survive a cold winter. I think we will, and with style. And that russian mobilization is a joke, seriously, all the alcoholics go first.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Sep 25 2022 11:14 utc | 300