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September 19, 2022

Putin's Press Conference On Ukraine, Terrorism, Fertilizer, Europe's Energy Crisis

Last week the Head of States Council of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization met in Samarkand. The meeting was not very remarkable. It was business as usual. Iran will soon join the organization and several other states want association agreements with it.

An important side event was a non-scripted press conference President Vladimir Putin of the Russian Federation held. There is a video with English subtitles that covers it and the Kremlin provides as usual an English language transcript. Putin made some important points that were not reflected in 'western' news coverage as they contradicted the propaganda positions the 'western' media have taken. Below I excerpted parts and added a few comments.

On the SCO:

Vladimir Putin: The most important thing always and everywhere is economic development. And the SCO, cooperation with the SCO countries, creates conditions for the development of the Russian economy, and thus for the social sphere and for resolving the tasks related to improving the living standards of our citizens.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation includes countries whose population, as has been said many times, comprises almost or even slightly more than half of humanity. It is 25 percent of world GDP. And, most importantly, the national economies in the region, those of the SCO member states, are developing much faster than others in the world.

The SCO markets are were global economic growth is happening. But the 'west' is excluding itself from those regions. 'Western' policies are hostile towards many of the big SCO members. Those policies build up barriers that hinder 'western' industries to profit from that growth. These are self-defeating measures.

There is a question about military strikes within Russia. Putin didn't seem bothered too much about those.

There is nothing new about this. Frankly, I find it even a bit strange to hear your question because Western countries have cultivated the idea of the collapse of the Soviet Union and historical Russia and Russia as such, its nucleus.

I have already cited these statements and studies by some figures in Great Britain during World War I and after it. I cited excerpts from Mr Brzezinski’s writings in which he divided the entire territory of our country into specific parts. True, later he changed his position a bit in the belief that it was better to keep Russia in opposition to China and use it as a tool to combat China. It will never happen.
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But they have always been seeking the dissolution of our country – this is very true. It is unfortunate that at some point they decided to use Ukraine for these purposes. [...] This is what some US-led Western countries have always been seeking – to create an anti-Russia enclave and rock the boat, threaten Russia from this direction. In essence, our main goal is to prevent such developments.
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In the course of this, we are seeing attempts to perpetrate terrorist attacks and damage our civilian infrastructure.

Indeed, we were quite restrained in our response, but that will not last forever. Recently, Russian Armed Forces delivered a couple of sensitive blows to that area. Let’s call them warning shots. If the situation continues like that, our response will be more impactful.

On Saturday the Russian military destroyed electricity distribution systems at a power plant in Slaviansk. Dima of the Military Summary channel showed two open source pictures provided by NASA that demonstrate problems with the Ukrainian electricity network. Especially in the east the lights are going out.

September 17 2021

Source: NASA - bigger
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September 17 2022

Source: NASA - bigger

The attack on Slaviansk followed after several Ukrainian attacks on electricity infrastructure in Russia and in areas under Russian control.

Putin mentions such attacks and calls them terrorism:

Terrorist attacks are a serious matter. In fact, it is about using terrorist methods. We see this in the killing of officials in the liberated territories, we even see attempts at perpetrating terrorist attacks in the Russian Federation, including – I am not sure if this was made public – attempts to carry out terrorist attacks near our nuclear facilities, nuclear power plants in the Russian Federation. I am not even talking about the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant.

We are monitoring the situation and will do our best to prevent a negative scenario from unfolding. We will respond if they fail to realise that these approaches are unacceptable. They are, in fact, no different than terrorist attacks.

In early August some Ukrainian commandos had destroyed high power lines from the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant.

In the Kursk region of Russia, Ukrainian saboteurs blew up power transmission lines that feed the Kursk nuclear power plant, the press service of the Federal Security Bureau of Russia said.

According to the agency, on August 4, 9 and 12, six explosions took place in the Kurchatov district of the Kursk region. The explosions were conducted targeting high-voltage power lines.
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A criminal case was filed into the incident under Part 2 of Article 205 (Terrorist Attack) of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Security forces are looking for saboteurs. The National Guard have strengthened the security of nuclear facilities.

Back to Putin's press conference.

He gets asked about some negotiation paper Ukraine had put out. He has not seen it but he explains what happened with negotiations in late March/early April:

Frankly, I am not familiar with what they have come up with this time. We, in fact, started with this when we were negotiating with the incumbent Kiev authorities and, in fact, completed this negotiating process in Istanbul with the well-known Istanbul agreement, after which we withdrew our troops from Kiev in order to create the proper conditions for concluding this agreement. Instead of concluding an agreement, Kiev immediately turned down all agreements, shoved them into a box and said they would not seek any agreement with Russia, but instead would pursue victory on the battlefield. Let them try.

The Ukrainian turn about came in early April after then UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson threatened Kiev with withholding all 'western' support.

Putin says the Special Military Operation will continue without a change in the plans.

Putin later remarks on the deal to let Ukraine export its grains:

As of today – as of yesterday or the day before – 121 ships left Ukrainian ports. Only three of the 120 ships headed for the poorest countries under the UN food programme. Some 35 percent, maybe a bit more, of the grain exported from Ukraine went to European countries, to non-poor countries, and definitely not to the world’s poorest countries. And only 4.5 percent of the shipments were sent to the poorest countries under the UN programme.
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The same applies to our fertiliser exports. This is something unprecedented. I would say this has been an outrageous and shameful decision by the European Commission to lift the ban on the purchase of Russian fertilisers – but solely for their countries, for EU member states. But what about the world’s poorest countries?
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So they have lifted sanctions on our fertilisers. The Americans were actually the first to lift them, since they are generally pragmatic people.
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[B]ut there are still issues as regards freight and insurance plus the existing ban on entering our ports where our fertilisers are exported from, as well as on financial transfers and settlements. They are aware of this all and keep saying this problem will be solved, but no one is actually doing anything about it.

To be fair, the UN Secretary-General is taking efforts to solve these issues.

This scandal was news to me:

You have probably heard about 300,000 tonnes of Russian fertiliser stuck in European ports; our companies are saying they are ready to provide it for free – just unblock and release it, and we will donate it to the poorest countries and to developing markets. But they are still holding it, and this is absolutely astonishing.

They do not want Russia to earn money – but we are not making a profit by giving away fertiliser. I just do not get what they are doing. What is the purpose of all this? There has been so much talk about providing help to the poorest countries, but exactly the opposite is actually happening.

I have the impression – and this is particularly true for European countries – that these former colonial powers are still living in the paradigm of colonial philosophy, and they are used to living at the expense of others. They still fail to get rid of this paradigm in their daily policies. But it is time to draw certain conclusions and act differently, in a more civilised manner.

There follow questions on China, the Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict, U.S. sanctions against certain persons and their kids and about the G-20.

Then follows a last question about the energy crisis in Europe about which Putin had a lot to say:

The energy crisis in Europe did not begin with the start of Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine, in Donbass; it actually started much earlier, a year before or even earlier. As strange as it may seem, it started with the green agenda.
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To pursue momentary political considerations, they chose to completely close down the hydrocarbon energy programmes in their countries. Banks stopped extending loans, ...
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Now, we see that prices, say, for natural gas in the United States have risen and production is growing, but not as fast as they would like it to – and the reason is that banks are afraid to issue loans.
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These are erroneous reference points in the green agenda, rushing things, and the green energy being unprepared to meet to the demand for huge energy resources to support economic and industrial growth. The economy is growing while the energy sector is shrinking. This is the first drastic mistake.

The second mistake concerns natural gas.

We made attempts to persuade the Europeans to focus on long-term contracts rather than solely on the market. Why? I said it before and will repeat it once again: Gazprom needs to invest billions in development but it must be confident that it will sell gas before making investments. This is what long-term contracts are about.

Mutual obligations are incurred by the sellers and the buyers. They said, “No, let the market regulate itself.“ We kept telling them, “Don't do it or it will lead to drastic consequences.” But in fact, they forced us to include a significant share of the spot price in the contract price. They forced us to do this, and Gazprom had to include both the oil and oil product basket but also the spot price in the gas price. The spot price began to grow, causing the increase in the price envisaged even in long-term contracts. But what does it have to do with us? This is the first thing.

Putin is right with this. The privatization and 'liberalization' of the European gas and electricity markets has never made sense and has indeed had very negative consequences.

Second, I told them many times. “Gazprom is not supplying gas.” Look, are you normal people or what? Poland chose to impose sanctions against the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline and shut off the route. I told Mr [German Chancellor Olaf] Scholz: “Why are you calling me? Call Warsaw and ask them to reopen the route.” That is all there is to it. That’s the first.

Scholz is really that dumb?

Second. Two lines of the gas pipeline run through Ukraine. Ukraine is being supplied with weapons, but it went ahead and closed one of the lines for them. They also shut off another line that supplied 25 billion cubic metres of gas – I will not talk about the exact amount, but they shut off the entire route. What for? Call Kiev and ask them to reopen the second line.

And finally, Nord Stream 1. One turbine goes out of order after another.

Siemens has the maintenance contract for the turbine pressure pumps but sanctions are prevent it from fulfilling it.

There is of course a solution for the lack of natural gas in Europe.

After all, if they need it urgently, if things are so bad, just go ahead and lift sanctions against Nord Stream 2, with its 55 billion cubic metres per year – all they have to do is press the button and they will get it going. But they chose to shut it off themselves; they cannot repair one pipeline and imposed sanctions against the new Nord Stream 2 and will not open it. Are we to blame for this?

Let them think hard about who is to blame and let none of them blame us for their own mistakes. Gazprom and Russia have always fulfilled and will fulfil all obligations under our agreements and contracts, with no failures ever.

It is indeed a sign of cowardice that European politicians blame Russia for problems they themselves have caused. They try to hide it but the facts are all there to point that out. Should Europe really run into energy problems during the winter the political punishment they will receive will be remorseless.

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Moscov certainly appears a bright star on those nasa images, perhaps portending a bright future for a multipolar world of peoples who may finally escape the burdensome yoke of empire. May justice and peace reign for all.

Zzz

Start rant

As small and bigger businesses in the collective west declare bankruptcy because they can no longer operate competitively globally primarily due to a price hike in energy prices inflicted by their own ideological politicos’ poor leadership planning and sanctions on the RF, their primary provider of inexpensive energy, or as in the usa due to having been financialized overthe past 40 years and incurring overhead expenses extending beyond global competitiveness, how far will the rock of black be allowed to extend their parasitic takeover tentacles, buying up everything gone kaput on the cheap?

Will there be any pre-emptive push back against that theft?

Stop thief!

Perhaps as rentier feudalism becomes firmly established in the collective west, energy prices will go down somewhat so the black rocks of the globe can profit even more!

Finance-capitalist endentured people will suffer even more as they labor away. Many will slowly or suddenly die, enduring exploitative bankrupting privatized ‘medical care’.

Sometimes it seems that this gof-released virus has multiple goals, the least of which is to eliminate the ‘useless eaters’ in the collective west. Social security insurance, which they (the baddies) repeatedly failed to privatize through legislation is assaulted from another direction, these social insurance remnants remaining as artifacts set by the competitive example of the ussr which provided health care, retirement, child care, maternity leave, affordable housing, affordable education, and so on, all antipodes to neoliberalism.

Neowhatevers force citizens into poverty & bankruptcy and privateer medical care they can’t afford, this now from a virus engineered to cause social chaos amongst those whom they perceive as exploitable, expropriating their assets or attempting to cripple their competitors’ economies.

Fortunately it appears, if the mad demons don’t blow us all to smithereens or dose us to death with toxins, a fair multipolar world will take hold for most of earth’s peoples. My time is short now but I have joy in seeing this possibility. All the best

End rant

Posted by: suzan | Sep 19 2022 22:58 utc | 101

@gottlieb 23

The US oligarchs have exactly the politicians they want. Those whom they have bought.

Posted by: Hermit | Sep 19 2022 23:09 utc | 102

On the questions about the Russian armed forces personnel composition, this Wiki seems decently current, although some garbage is present. This seems to be the relevant ratio of volunteers also called contractors versus conscripts:

"Nearly 400,000 contractors serve in the Russian Army as of March 2019. According to Defence Minister Shoigu, in every regiment and brigade, two battalions are formed by contractors, while one is formed by recruits, who are not involved in combat missions. Currently, there are 136 battalion tactical groups in the armed forces formed by contractors.[56] The number of conscripts amounts to 225,000 and the number of contractors amounts to 405,000 as of March 2020 and exceeds the number of conscripts by 2 times as of the end of 2021."

Note that this focuses on the Army, not Navy or Aerospace forces while all military forces are employed in the SMO. A month ago, I commented on force numbers and suggested some rotation was happening that was related to the raising of the conscript levy since they only serve actively for 12 months, which is barely enough time to learn your military occupational specialty (MOS). I'm somewhat surprised on the lack of information about Russia's military. For example, how many conscripts opt to become contract soldiers? And clearly, all NCOs and officers are contract soldiers; so, how many exist in what grade? What's the percentage of "Lifers"? Retention problems plague the Outlaw US Empire's military, particularly senior NCOs, thus the importance of knowing that info in judging military competence.

According to this site, Russia could field a military over 45 million strong with 1.25 million reaching military age annually, but only @12% are conscripted yearly.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2022 23:22 utc | 103

"This recalls the buzz about "Z" en "V" on allied vehicles at the start of SMO.Has anyone a clue yet,what it means or intent to provoke?"

My thoughts are that the Z, O and V are Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy's initials.

Posted by: MisterP | Sep 19 2022 23:26 utc | 104

karlof1 | Sep 19 2022 23:22 utc | 102

The wiki referenced linked through to a TASS article

"Currently, there are 136 tactical battalion groups in the armed forces formed by contractors, ready to carry out any mission put forward to them," the minister continued."

That also matches the pentagon who said awhile back that 140 BTG's are involved in the SMO.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 19 2022 23:32 utc | 105

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2022 22:34 utc | 93

Fracking is not a long term play (though short term prosperity isn't a bad thing, either). But fracking is just a technology, applied to a specific stratigraphy.

Natural gas is a long term play. And the only play: without the rapid spin-up times of CCG plants Europe's green energy sector doesn't work. Doomsday predictions of Peak Whatever aside, there's no particular reason to believe we'll run out of gas this side of 2100. Presuming we don't choke ourselves to death in green tape, then completely pummel our own economy in a massive overreaction to a flu, then get into a massive proxy war with our biggest energy supplier and gateway to Eastern energy riches, naturally.

Oh, wait.

Posted by: ZX | Sep 19 2022 23:35 utc | 106

About
It is indeed a sign of cowardice that European politicians blame Russia for problems they themselves have caused. They try to hide it but the facts are all there to point that out. Should Europe really run into energy problems during the winter the political punishment they will receive will be remorseless. B.

Cowardice? No, no way. It's intentional. They know what they are doing. They know it does not matter what is said by Putin/Russia or China claim in "news reports/press conferences" or in a phone call - nor what is reported in obscure websites like here and other alt media sources who occasionally do report the facts of the matter.

No, it does not matter. The constant stream of manipulative propaganda and lies do.

They know they are lying, they know they are attempting to manipulate Putin/Russia/China etc. And they know they totally control the means of public communication across the west/oecd nations and therefore will continue to form and control "public opinion".

About B ..the facts are all there to point that out..

The "facts" do not matter. Utterly irrelevant to the constant and entrenched narrative. It's all Putin's fault! B even makes it clear right at the beginning " that were not reflected in 'western' news coverage as they contradicted the propaganda positions the 'western' media have taken. " ....

So what Putin said or what B says here about "facts" does not matter one bit to the public consciousness in the West or Europe. They do not "try" to hide the facts, they successfully and relentlessly hide them.

Energy problems in winter will create problems, sure. It will cause social issues and complaints. But what will not happen is overwhelming extensive "remorseless political punishment".

The European leadership and the Press will continue to successfully prosecute the case that the problems are a direct result of what Putin / Russia (and later China) have done. Not the European leadership or the USA.

Sure some people will work it out, such as people here do. A few sectors in society will protest and some will complain .... but none of that will matter in the least. A small irritation to the political class and manageable, that's it.

imo the only sector that might make a difference / be heard is industry and the corporate world. But they are not a united group. The more powerful back the anti-Russia / anti-China rhetoric out of self-interest. If they didn't it wouldn't already be happening all these years.

They love it that China's Huawei were blocked in the west, and they love it that Russia's oil and gas exports to the West have been blocked. It's "these people" who control the Press, public opinion and politicians - not MoA or the public.

Anyway, all this is only my conjecture / opinions only and completely irrelevant to what might or will happen too. ymmv, and that's ok, cheers

PS the more important question to me is

- If the breakaway republics and Russia successfully and militarily secure the Donbass region, they vote for complete independence, and successfully gut/wipe out de-Nazify the Ukrainian military, and can create a defensible border zone for the Donbass including southern Ukraine to Odessa .... then what happens?

- Everything will still be disputed. The Republics and Crimea will still not be recognized. Russia will still be Sanctioned as an "unlawful renegade terrorist state" by the West (G7, most of the G20/OECD nations). Everything constructive China and Russia try to do in the UNSC will still be Vetoed. The Donbass will still be a conflict zone, not much different to a Kashmir in Europe.

- The psychotic pathological lying Neocon/Neoliberal fanatics will still be Ruling the USA and most of the world. The US military will still everywhere like cockroaches. The evil empire will still have 100+ Military/CIA bases across the globe.

- What really changes if Russia is successful with it's SCO Goals in Ukraine? I think nothing changes.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 19 2022 23:38 utc | 107

Scholz is really that dumb?

Yes. Because either he knows Poland is the one blocking it and he's acting dumb calling Putin about it, thinking the latter doesn't know, or just being irritating. Either way is dumb. Or he doesn't know it, and then he definitely is stupid.

Posted by: Raskolnikov | Sep 19 2022 20:07 utc | 50

I agree that he is that dumb. But he is also getting desperate. If he tried calling Poland about it, he got the Polish demands for war reparations in return. I still wonder what he thought Putin might do about it - I guess he begged him to reopen NS1 using the turbine that Scholz had to beg Canada for. Not knowing that he not only needs the hardware but also the paperwork in order - something Canada and GB probably forgot to mention when they gave Scholz the turbine.

That Very Dumb Lady Ursula must be really hurt that Russia burns the gas it could send to the EU free of charge. Age has taken a similar toll on her as on Biden. Her facade is just minimally better.

Posted by: Martina | Sep 19 2022 23:39 utc | 108

Moaobserver 86

‘The age of abundance is over’……El Presidente Macron…..just 4weeks ago.

Straight from the former investment banker’s mouth…

Posted by: Prince Andrew | Sep 19 2022 23:52 utc | 109

typo, 1000+ Military/CIA bases ....

- A modern version of Operation Gladio / Contras in Nicaragua, will be run in South Eastern Ukraine by NATO as an ongoing Insurgency / Resistance eg https://files.libcom.org/files/NATOs_secret_armies.pdf The conflict and violence will not end.

They will call it is a home grown Liberation Movement of Ukrainian Freedom Fighters against Putin's evil empire. A modern day version of Osama Bin Laden and the Mujahideen fighting against the Evil Russians in Afghanistan in 1979!

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 19 2022 23:54 utc | 110

ZX @105--

You'd think folks would learn from the experiences of other extractive industries like fishing and forestry, which are genuinely renewable, as well as from those that aren't like coal. I commented on global proven gas reserves several weeks ago and linked to this listing where you'll see the USA has 14 years of proven reserves remaining at current rates of extraction, while indeed other nations have a great many decades worth. So yes, the world will have natural gas as a resource in the next century. The major question is what the global price will be then.

And this would be an excellent place to link to Alastair Crooke's latest, "Goodbye Westification: The World Moves On":

"We’re living in the fog of a war in Europe. We’re living too, in an economic fog of war, obscuring those who are sound, and in contrast, who it is who can no longer afford themselves, and thus are living on borrowed time. We’re living too under the fog of a World transitioning to a radically changed way of imagining itself, amid the open sluice-gates of psyops.

"And transitioning the World is. Let’ try to clear the fog a tad." {Emphasis Original]

That's his intro to another excellent essay.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 20 2022 0:16 utc | 111

@Posted by: GMC | Sep 19 2022 17:35 utc | 3

From Enbridge in Ontario its 30 Canadian cents per cubic metre retail, so 1000 cm would be C$300, which is about US$225. So quite a bit more than your US$90, but a bit less than Serbia's supply contract wholesale prices of US$400. Last year prices here were less than half the current amount, a lot closer to your price, so prices have jumped a bit.

Current European natural gas price on the TTF exchange (wholesale) is Euro 180 approx. per MWh, which is around US$2,000 per 1000 cm; about ten times the current rate in Ontario. Was as high as nearly US$4,000 per 1000 cm when Russia fully shut down Nordstream 1 at the end of August. I have to assume that it will increase over the winter as the gas in storage is used up.

My electricity averages C$0.12 per kWh. which is about US$0.09 per kWh. In England its GBP0.28, or US$0.33 per kWh (it was going to go to GBP0.51 per kWh on October 1st before the Truss package, which is about US$0.60 per kWh).

Ontario Retail Gas Prices

Posted by: Roger | Sep 20 2022 0:20 utc | 112

Posted by: Kali El | Sep 19 2022 17:42 utc | 8

Excellent take. imo if the current industrialists stop "going along with it" they will be replaced by other "industrialists" funded by that very same "banking system which is controlled by the elites".

Not sure if even that will ever remove them from slumber.
Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 19 2022 17:42 utc | 9

I seriously doubt that too.

Remember that USA caused 2008/09 GFC, the Global Financial Crisis aka that Giant Criminally Fraudulent Ponzi Scheme?

Remember how many people lost their savings, their marriages, their homes, their jobs? Millions all over the world.

Did people protest all over Europe and the USA and the West? Nope.
Did Governments get tossed out and new systems put in place? Nope.
Did anyone go to jail? Nope.
Has anything really changed? Nope.
Did any national European Government or elsewhere in the West/OECD hold the USA Government/s to account and demand Reparations for losses in the Trillion$? Nope.

Or tell the USA to get the F*** out of their country forever and take their Military and Missiles and CIA spies with them because the USA is completely UNTRUSTWORTHY? Nope.

People are not going to tear the place down over a shortage of energy this winter that is believed to be all Putin's fault.

I think it's better to be more realistic and use recent history as a guide here.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 0:20 utc | 113

I have to disagree with B here: "It is indeed a sign of cowardice that European politicians ..."

I don't think that European politicians will receive any punishment whatsoever. They will be rewarded with company directorships, think tank posts, well-paid sinecures with the UN or the World Bank, etc. They fail remorselessly upwards.
Posted by: JulianJ | Sep 19 2022 17:51 utc | 13

Spot on. fwiw I agree with you 100% Julian.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 0:27 utc | 114

Russia continues to reap benefits from the Cold War activities of Soviet Agent Alicia Rosenbaum (aka Ayn Rand).

Posted by: James J. O'Meara | Sep 19 2022 19:42 utc | 42

Could you elaborate as to the "benefits" and how Rosenbaum's/Rand's activities contributed.

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 20 2022 0:30 utc | 115

@Posted by: Marjorie | Sep 19 2022 22:35 utc | 94

It is now clear to everyone that Germany was right to trust Russia, because after slander, sanctions and sending heavy weapons to Ukraine, Russia still agrees to this day to open Nord Stream II and supply her with gas in abundance and at the best price.

The day Germany votes against a US resolution at the UN, we will see if she gets any more LNG.

So very true, the US is quick to take offence and does not see contracts or agreements as something it should necessarily be committed to. Russia continued to supply natural gas to Europe throughout the Cold War and right up to the SMO and beyond even in the face of European sanctions and childish provocations. Europe got spoiled and thought that it could smack Russia in the face and still get the cheap energy.

I did a write up around Varoufakis' talk on the European Energy Market and added some context, the more you look the more it resembles the product of a bureaucratic committee of greedy but somewhat stupid devils.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 20 2022 0:30 utc | 116

surprised you didn't work this into all this. turbines and nuclear plants...things you might want to build to last but i'm not an expert.


it is refreshing to read putin's speeches and hear a serious adult saying logical things. again, i doubt kiev ever had a "tough choice" between negotiating and getting giant slush funds to kill russians they've hated for years. and why would they need western "support" if they reached a peace deal and acted like adults? had the previous 8 years shown the actions of a regime that just wants "peace"? have they stopped even as the western weapons failed to "change the game" over and over (when they aren't scorched at the polish border)?

not sure about the average remaining ukie citizens (7 of the 8 i know personally left the country years ago) but kiev is obviously run by a death cult. given their urge to turn whatever's left into a "new israel"/police state i'm guessing the natives are restless.

Posted by: the pair | Sep 20 2022 0:34 utc | 117

Fracking is a temporary thing.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Sep 19 2022 17:56 utc | 15

Yes. True. The current problem being high Natural Gas prices makes it financially viable for longer.
Therefore ..... everything you see happening regarding the USA seeking for many years now to sell LNG to Europe and it's non-stop "ideological/fraudulent" attacks against Russia and her cheap Gas.

People in the know, know!

For example : "What do (CIA) Mercenaries for Hire (Academi/Blackwater) have to do with Multinational Oil & Gas companies in Ukraine? " Comment/Refs

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 0:36 utc | 118

@Posted by: Giyane | Sep 19 2022 22:32 utc | 90

European countries are not allowed to consume GM crops. So if European countries are buying them, they must be intended for re-sale to somewhere that is allowed to eat them. I believe the world is going to be blackmailed into kowtowing to USUKIS if it wants to eat. Blackmail to agree with our politics, blackmail to sow sterile GM seed, and blackmail to eat the poisonous stuff.

At the EU level GM foods are not banned, they have to be approved on a case by case basis and food containing GM have to be labelled as such. Individual EU nations do ban GM crops. "As of September 2014, 49 GMO crops, consisting of eight GM cottons, 28 GM maizes, three GM oilseed rapes, seven GM soybeans, one GM sugar beet, one GM bacterial biomass, and one GM yeast biomass have been authorised" by the EU (Wikipedia).

The EU came under massive pressure from the US, and many European big companies sell GMs - Bayer (who owns Monsanto), BASF.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 20 2022 0:40 utc | 119

We postponed our planned trip to Russia this year, and still plan to go next year. Friends who just returned from visiting family in Rostov and Crimea said everything appears normal except for more military flights overhead.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 19 2022 18:32 utc | 19

I'd love to be sitting on the beach in Crimea somewhere and have a couple of military helicopters or fighter jets fly overhead like I've seen in a couple videos.

At the rate things are going in the US, that's where I'll end up.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Sep 20 2022 0:41 utc | 120

"This recalls the buzz about "Z" en "V" on allied vehicles at the start of SMO.Has anyone a clue yet,what it means or intent to provoke?"

My thoughts are that the Z, O and V are Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy's initials.

Posted by: MisterP | Sep 19 2022 23:26 utc | 103

I read somewhere it has to do with IFF - "Identify, Friend or Foe."

I don't claim to be a military expert though, even though I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Sep 20 2022 0:47 utc | 121

Giyane@90...bingo, you answered, or put in play an extremely valid reason for what I have been seeing all around me. I live in grain country, deep in the heart of it, same grain country as last year, as last 10/20 years, same basic crops and outputs....but this past year most grain farms are putting up huge metal grain silos, multiple. Just the crushed rock and concrete for the base must cost a small fortune, not to mention the galvanized metal of the silos. Not cheap....but hey, if the Canadian government can give $600mil to the media to spin its covid agenda, it's chump change to pay farmers to build grain storage silos to hoard grain and fake a famine.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 20 2022 0:55 utc | 122

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 20 2022 0:16 utc | 110

A ‘layer’ lives on, deep inside us – and surges up, (particularly at times of crisis), to challenge ‘who it is we think we are’, and to pose us a ‘life-choice’. It directs us to the fork in the road. It is, in short, not a matter of ‘returning to the past’, but of connecting us to almost-lost memories that suddenly catch new flame from greying, dust-covered embers, as fresh air streams across them.

This is poetic.

And yes. The same applies to Europe and the UK: the times ahead will be painful, but pain is an excellent teacher. The fat-and-happy times really weren't all that fat, and they certainly weren't happy, but what's coming is still an icy plunge into the frigid December North Sea: a spiritual wake-up call, if we'll let it be.

Posted by: ZX | Sep 20 2022 0:58 utc | 123

karlof1@110. WOW, i just followed the link to SC, expecting nothing bt o/c the usual 404, & what! it went through! perhaps chrystia is so busy with her new possible posting to nato that she wants to clear herself of being called out on trifles like censorship. >< i have no idea simply thank you karlof! thank you for all your efforts to keep us informed throughout these fog of war days.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Sep 20 2022 0:59 utc | 124

Is Putin running a grocery shop or waging a serious war for existence of Russia.?
He must be made to resign and let present Defence minister Shoigu be the president.

Quote. "The same applies to our fertiliser exports. This is something unprecedented. I would say this has been an outrageous and shameful decision by the European Commission to lift the ban on the purchase of Russian fertilisers – but solely for their countries, for EU member states. But what about the world’s poorest countries?
...
So they have lifted sanctions on our fertilisers. The Americans were actually the first to lift them, since they are generally pragmatic people.
...
[B]ut there are still issues as regards freight and insurance plus the existing ban on entering our ports where our fertilisers are exported from, "

Posted by: Sam | Sep 20 2022 0:59 utc | 125

Soon LNR + DNR will join Russia Federation and will be protected by Russia Army.

This will free up the SMO force to focus on the south. No escalation needed, all within the legal limits of Presidential and Parliamentary powers.

Further aggression from Uke in other areas will be terrorism against Russian Federation and dealt with separately.

Meanwhile we in the West celebrate the the demise of the Butcher of Buckingham Palace.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2022 1:03 utc | 126

@Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 20 2022 0:16 utc | 110

The US will also be left with massive water pollution issues from all those wells, plus a huge amount of atmospheric methane leakage from improperly plugged wells. Privatize the profits, socialize the costs .... The Middle East and Russia have many decades, if not a century plus of reserves at current production rates.

All the analyses I look at point to Northern Europe running out of gas before the end of winter given current Russian very low supplies, even worse if the EU bans the remaining Russian gas (including LNG), without some form of rationing starting immediately. The German state has said that it will only be able to predict a severe shortage more than two weeks in advance, as it will be so dependent upon the weather (including the level of wind for the turbines as well as the temperature).

The politicians and financial markets seem to be a little too sanguine, or in denial, given the possible outcomes this winter. Then there is the planning for the following winter with no Russian gas to help fill the storage, that would surely finish off the EU.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 20 2022 1:04 utc | 127

(What you will get is - all politicians lie).
Putin holds a yearly press conference for the entire press corps. He answers all questions so the conference sometimes lasts for hours (four hours, for example). I listen to these pressers. Putin is always well prepared and very well informed. He comes across as honest, competent, committed and highly responsible. It is hard not to trust him. You might say - remarkable. I say - not at all. Because every public servant, and that is what he is, should be honest, competent and responsible. But because the western world is so upside down, something that should be common seems remarkable.

Posted by: JB | Sep 19 2022 20:35 utc | 57

Yes JB an excellent comment. I agree. I too have watched those press conferences in full, as well as his speeches, Valdai Q&A etc. and came to the same conclusions as you.

This is why RT and other news outlets are banned / restricted in the west for decades. It is also why the USA State of the Union address is instead Live-Streamed into people's homes around the globe. Western MSM Journalists, Editors, and Politicians are utterly ignorant naive fools in general. They are not the "elites" they are the tools for the "elites" that operate the global US Empire.

I have bookmarked dozens of Putin speeches/Q&A ... 90% of which are no longer "available in my country" or have been deleted/channel removed from Youtube.

This is how "History" is typically made. When I die my memories of what I know as true and factual go with me.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 1:06 utc | 128

@Posted by: Michigan Dude | Sep 20 2022 0:41 utc | 119

I'd love to be sitting on the beach in Crimea somewhere and have a couple of military helicopters or fighter jets fly overhead like I've seen in a couple videos.

Like Apocalypse now hopefully without the napalm, but with a vodka chaser. Sounds like a great vacation, thinking about doing that myself.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 20 2022 1:08 utc | 129

One thing about the presser that I haven't seen mentioned is how upbeat Putin was compared to previous months. The multi-polar world and dedollarizing seems to be all coming together along with Europe's self destruction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 1:12 utc | 130

For example this was removed from Youtube.
The President of Russia delivered the Address to the Federal Assembly. The ceremony took place in Gostiny Dvor. February 20, 2019
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/59863

Once all Russian Govt internet sites are blocked/banned that will become inaccessible too. People in the west and in other nations have very little idea how much communication controls have been imposed within "free enterprise" corporations in recent times. They are simply agents of Government Intel Operations. Simple as that.

There is no genuine "freedom" in the western hemisphere. But the average citizen has absolutely no clue that is the case.

Which is why, imo, it make no different at all what Putin/Xi, Russia/China do or say about Ukraine or anything else now.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 1:15 utc | 131

Personally I find that a lot more disturbing than the scenario that you advance and the implications of secret cabals making plans that obedient governments implement.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 19 2022 21:07 utc | 64

imo, there is no difference to the above and Neoliberalism. That's how it works!

Backroom secret deals/pressures put to bear, but occasionally one hears about changes in the "media" or presented by Politicians with whatever excuse fits in the moment.

All Governments are now obedient. Have been progressively brought under control the last 3 decades. Pinochets of the world no longer needed. Idiots like even AOC instead all play their parts now.

The public are utterly unaware of the ways and means of the Neoliberal (Neocon) Octopus. And 99% of the journalists are either brainwashed idiots or bought and sold by the Intel agencies ala The Guardian to Fox News.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 1:26 utc | 132

@V78 #11 NATO's military production capacity is insignificant compared to Russia's, as is US capacity. Restocking Javelins is estimated to take 3 years. Not to mention that much of NATO's military capacity is directly supplied by the US, including troops.

It has been calculated that the US would run out of artillery shells and rockets after 6 weeks at the intensity of Russian expenditure over the last 6 months.

Posted by: Black Cloud | Sep 20 2022 1:27 utc | 133

Is Putin running a grocery shop or waging a serious war for existence of Russia.?
...
[B]ut there are still issues as regards freight and insurance plus the existing ban on entering our ports where our fertilisers are exported from, "

Posted by: Sam | Sep 20 2022 0:59 utc | 124

I do get your point. It smells weird/illogical to me too.

Russia doesn't have any "freight ships" they can use? Then go buy some for cash.

Or Seize them, nationalize them even. Form convoys with Naval protection to deliver said "gifts" to the poor and needy if he is serious or afraid the US will bomb a fertilizer convoy of nationalized ships.

Putin or Xi can't re-organise some kind of Govt guaranteed "insurance coverage" for ships? It makes no sense as a valid "excuse" to me. Why kowtow to these western barriers/sanction regimes?

If the "western / empire system" is collapsing as suggested by many why does he seem to be so fearful/restricted by it? ( I am sure he has his reasons, knows more than I do still somethings don't add up. )

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 1:47 utc | 134

One thing about the presser that I haven't seen mentioned is how upbeat Putin was compared to previous months. The multi-polar world and dedollarizing seems to be all coming together along with Europe's self destruction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 1:12 utc | 129

Yes, he looked like a guy who just cannot believe his good luck. Making wise cracks.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 20 2022 1:54 utc | 135

Reply to 106

Good points but I think what you bring up supports my feeling that SCO will supplant the UN - especially if it proves reasonably effective and represents more than half the world's population. After that,those nations will overlook the Ukr. changes.

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 20 2022 1:57 utc | 136

"The more I think about Germany ..."

Posted by: bevin | Sep 19 2022 21:07 utc | 64

your words bring to mind Heinrich Heine's immortal verse:
"Wenn ich an Deutschland denke in der Nacht,
bin ich um den Schlaf gebracht..."

(when I think of Germany at night, my sleep is robbed from me - my very bad translation)

Posted by: fanto | Sep 20 2022 2:12 utc | 137

SeanAU@131

I disagree, the neo-liberals have, quite openly, explained the outlines of their agenda and the ideology behind it.

They haven't been honest and their propaganda has quite shamelessly obscured the reality that they are out to repossess the gains in terms of living standards and dignity won by working class struggle- and in order often to compete with the Communist advances- over many years.
But, on the whole it has been crystal clear since Thatcher and Reagan (not to mention Pinochet and the Chicago Boys) what the neo-liberals intended to do.

What I was referring to were vague, undefined and unidentifiable conspiracies of bankers and governments which have the advantage in discourse of not using the dreaded term class- with all its marxist associations- but the disadvantage of not explaining, as class analyses do, what, apart from personal greed, motivates those involved.
This is one of the problems with right wing faux populism- in the end it defends capitalism, exonerates the ruling class but reminds us-like a Baptist preacher- how evil men are and how prevalent is sin.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 20 2022 2:39 utc | 138

SeanAU #106 & 109

Exactly that. The westy oligarchs have their cake, their slaves to grow and bake it and they will eat it all and only share it among their 'friends' when they must.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2022 2:43 utc | 139

@ Michigan Dude 120

I hear you dude!

I've done 2 tours of Walmart on Black Friday, suffering only minor bruising.

One never knows how one will react in a rapidly escalating hostile environment.

Didn't hear back from Eric Prince/Blackwater, but the Walmart store manager offered me seasonal employment.

Posted by: WTFUD | Sep 20 2022 2:43 utc | 140

Its hard to know what to add to comments but to repeat the contextualization of Russia's Ukraine SMO within the civilization war going on in the rest of the world.

I would say that Putin is winning the propaganda war as well as the military one in Ukraine given the withholding grain, fertilizer, etc. from poor countries that is visible to the world. And, as karlof1 reported, immoral empire is sanction people trying to do good for children in the middle of the SMO.

The final blow in this civilization war will be the creation of alternative Reserve Currency with intrinsic value and the associated financial system to support management of a multi-polar totally sovereign monetary system.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 20 2022 2:44 utc | 141

suzan @100
That wasn't a rant. It was a cri de coeur and a warning. May your time be joyous, every moment of it.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 20 2022 2:45 utc | 142

About the stuck fertilizer, it looks like it wasn't news to Estonia.
This looks like an official Estonian network with articles in English, so don't expect a pro-Russian spin. One article talks about 4.4 times what was at Beirut, I guess that if an incident happened, it would be difficult to blame Russia without going nuclear.
(I once already posted something marginal about liveuamap as "jjj", which was already used, if I'm going to post more I will stick to this new handle)

Posted by: Proteiros | Sep 20 2022 2:47 utc | 143

As ever, Putin analyzes the global situation very well, as this excellent article reports. The "West" however is run by a cabal of very rich people who make money from scarcity. They don't care about countries, societies, or people in general -- only in slaking their unslakeable greed. The countries of the west are committing societal suicide and it will be a very COLD winter as I write here: bstackjulianmacfarlane.su.com/p/ukraine-winter-forecast . Some things are clear from PUtin's speech. He will not be rushed with the Ukraine because he sees it as just one piece in a much larger puzzle -- or, if you like, one battle in a much larger war -- not a military war so much as a moral war. He understands oligarchs and oligarchies -- Russia had its own under Yeltsin. But Putin was able to bring the oligarchs to heel. The West cannot do that -- hence it's collapse. So, in my "winter forecast' I see Russia continuing its measured, pragmatic approach. It has created a quagmire for the West, which should be used to them, since every American war since 1945 has been a quagmire, or at least ended with one. Now, the Americans are up to their noses in a polluted swamp, which is about to freeze. When the DPR and LPR vote to join the RF this fall, Russia will likely rebrand the "SMO" as "Counter Terror" and up the stakes. Watch it take all of Eastern Ukraine, parts of the south of Western Ukraine and everything east of the Dnieper. Not right away -- but in measured fashion and the EU and UK collapse.

Posted by: julianmacfarlane | Sep 20 2022 2:49 utc | 144

SeanAU #133

Russia doesn't have any "freight ships" they can use? Then go buy some for cash.

Or Seize them, nationalize them even. Form convoys with Naval protection to deliver said "gifts" to the poor and needy if he is serious or afraid the US will bomb a fertilizer convoy of nationalized ships.

Putin or Xi can't re-organise some kind of Govt guaranteed "insurance coverage" for ships? It makes no sense as a valid "excuse" to me. Why kowtow to these western barriers/sanction regimes?

If the "western / empire system" is collapsing as suggested by many why does he seem to be so fearful/restricted by it? ( I am sure he has his reasons, knows more than I do still somethings don't add up. )

I get the situation as being that the ships are technically seized/pirated by the west as they fall into the 'sanctions net'. I am sure the insuranc eis a minor issue and easily resolved by sovereign cover by Russia or China but they do not own these ships.

I get that the flag is registered in some convenient offshore 'nation'. They cannot be grabbed by Russia and diverted to global south as the westies would bleat endlessly about piracy. They are clearly useful to Russia now as a contrast medium for the entire global south leadership to appreciate the ceaseless perfidious performance of the west.

More so these seized ships and their cargo need be seen in the same light of the Odessa grain extortion racket whereby the UN is more and more seen in stark relief as it joined the chorus and then ok'd the deal to starve the south in favour of profiting the north. I see the UN as being subjected daily to increased light exposing its evil machinations to the west's advantage. The next secretary general and positions vacant might see some change from the brutal extortion of the south in favour of the north's puppet candidate.

Guterres is a proven stooge of the colonial masters and his unpalatable stench grows every day.

Putin sometimes seems timid and then I see him as a tiresome advocate of 'gently gently catchee monkey'. If the east captures the UN there will be immense global change but then that is a long game and tries the patience even more.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2022 2:59 utc | 145

One thing about the presser that I haven't seen mentioned is how upbeat Putin was compared to previous months. The multi-polar world and dedollarizing seems to be all coming together along with Europe's self destruction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 1:12 utc | 129

Yes, he looked like a guy who just cannot believe his good luck. Making wise cracks.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 20 2022 1:54 utc | 134

You both stole my thunder. I was, after thanking b for a very full analysis of the press conference, going to make the same points. That was my impression also, that Putin found the SCO conversations he'd been having full of promise, and he was supercharged by that. Thanks to b for providing the transcript, but really the best intimation of what you express can only be found in the video. I will just give an example:

Putin (in answer to a question about the Ukranian counter-offensive):

"...You said that we are seeing activity here and there. But Kiev has announced that it has launched an active counter-offensive operation. Let’s see how it unfolds and how it ends."

Pretty straightforward, until you remember his facial expression as he tossed off the last bit - "...and how it ends."

Posted by: juliania | Sep 20 2022 3:14 utc | 146

Peter AU1, Bemildred, juliania

I noticed that spring in Putin's step too - nice observations on that here, thanks. He was in successful company excited about the future taking shape. And in the western sphere perhaps we've forgotten what that feels like?

And I too get the same feeling that Eighthman @135 has, namely that SCO may one day supplant the UN. It is being modeled scrupulously on the UN principles and best practice international law. It will either pull the UN upright through its own demonstration effect and, frankly, competitive rule of law, or it will replace the UN. Either way, the world wins.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 20 2022 3:35 utc | 147

Posted by: bevin | Sep 20 2022 2:39 utc | 137 -- I was referring to were vague, undefined and unidentifiable conspiracies of bankers and governments which have the advantage in discourse of not using the dreaded term class

OK, I see where you're coming from now. It is all about class ... and I agree "the right wing faux populism" is BS too, Thankyou.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 3:39 utc | 148

[in Germany, a patsy got a severe penalty for displaying "Z"] It would be great if one Russian speaker or Ukranian speaker could give us some information about what "Z" and "V" mean to him.

Posted by: willie | Sep 19 2022 22:01 utc | 81

I imagine a special concentration camp in which all inmates have names with "von und zu", i.e. overloaded with verboten letters. As I tried to find such an overloaded name, I encountered surname Szasowski von Szasow, this house while "Prussian", retained original Polish spelling, although in Polish it would be "Szasowski z Szasowa herbu Saszor". As a coat of arms, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szaszor#/media/File:COA_Orzeł_bez_głowy_(Domu_Saszowskich).svg
Saszor could be a new improved emblem of Germany: black eager WITHOUT head with an empty helmet above. Thus we go beyond ordinary brainlessness: dispense with heads altogether.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 20 2022 3:46 utc | 149

other commenters mentioned good physical and mental performance by Putin in his unscripted presser. I agree with this, it seemed a man younger than is age, with esprit, in full control of facts. Absolutely stunning. And the MSM was years ago claimed that he has pancreatic cancer, and more recently, that he has some kind of cancer, without specifics...It is sick to realize how vile, how low this western propaganda has become.

Posted by: fanto | Sep 20 2022 3:46 utc | 150

On reflection, we've talked for some time now about the best way to overthrow a thing being simply to build its replacement, and wait for the old thing to crumble.

We seem to be seeing this on all fronts now.

~~

Peter AU1, here's a treat for you:

As to Russians and their military plans, I like a new piece at StalkerZone that reminds us of Putin's original demands last December, and says that the kinetic aspect of Ukraine is not strategic, it's only tactical (with a much larger theater in view):

The Battle for Dominance: The General Staff Diligently Portrays a Lame Duck…

it is worth paying attention to a certain pattern – almost all wars are won by the one whose military logistics and economy are able to work at a lower cost than the enemy’s economy. It allows not to be afraid of prolonging the conflict, but on the contrary – it favours it, turning seemingly sluggish military actions into a noose around the enemy’s neck.

...

Military experts have not yet noted an epochal event — in Ukraine, not only colonial Ukrainian troops, but also NATO’s own human resources have begun to be ground up. Like the Wehrmacht on the Volga, the alliance has been drawn into its own personal Stalingrad in Donbass. And the General Staff of the Russian Federation is withdrawing its units to Belgorod, and the configuration of the front with military logic insistently suggests the need to cross the border.… The Russian border…

It's a provocative piece, and an easy read. I find it compelling. Call me a fan of 5D chess... It may not be the whole story, or any of it, but I think the concept is one to keep in mind.

Russia might just lie back on the ropes through the whole winter, with supply lines of 50-300 clicks, while even from Poland the line is over a thousand. And mysteriously, even while appearing inactive, we will still see operational gains everywhere through that time.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 20 2022 3:49 utc | 151

In terms of the challenges the EU is facing what do people here think of the relevance or lack thereof of:

1. Marriage rates: "Since 1964 (the first year we have available data), the crude marriage rate in the
EU has declined by more than 50 % in relative terms (from 8.0 per 1 000 persons in 1964 to 3.2 in
2020)."

2. Births outside marriage, e.g.: "in 2020, births outside marriage outnumbered births inside marriage
in 8 EU Member States: France, Bulgaria, Portugal, Estonia, Slovenia, Sweden, Denmark and the
Netherlands."

3. Birth rates, e.g.: "1.50 live births per woman in the EU in 2020, ranging from 1.13 in Malta to
1.83 in France."

4. Social protection (which I assume is welfare) expenditure: "Compared to 1995, expenditure on
'social protection' has increased at the level of the EU as a share of total expenditure (36.6 % of
total expenditure in 1995 and 41.3 % of total expenditure in 2020). As a percentage of GDP
expenditure on 'social protection' increase from 19.4 % of GDP in 1995 to 22.0 % of GDP in
2020. The strongest annual increase of the ratio was reported in 2020 (2.7 percentage points) and
2009 (1.9 percentage points)."

To me these sound like recipes for disaster, particularly the last one given the energy crisis which will (presumably) increase expenditure still further.

I'd love to know what people here think. Particularly those living in the EU or otherwise in Europe.

Statistics and quotes are from "Eurostat Statistics Explained". I can give the links if people want them.

Posted by: RTX | Sep 20 2022 3:51 utc | 152

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2022 2:59 utc | 143

I hear you, and note the same issues, eg UN being useless/hijacked. Thank you.

the creation of alternative Reserve Currency ... a multi-polar totally sovereign monetary system.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 20 2022 2:44 utc | 140

What's the hold up? Can't be that complicated ... they have computers and the internet ... the off-shore tax evading banking cabals of the UK et al can manage running Banks ok (rhetorical question)

Patience? I really don't and cant know but seems to me there's been a lot of talk and no action. The SCO reflects that. Putins presser reflects that. That only half of Donetsk Oblast DPR has been secured and the city still being shelled from a few miles away reflects that.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 3:53 utc | 153

juliania | Sep 20 2022 3:14 utc | 144

Yes, it was various short sections of video that struck me. Perhaps from the time of the mutual security proposals Putin's face has shown worry, stress and concern though that certainly never affected his competence. First month or two of the SMO his face looked puffy, but now back to normal.
India in the last days appears to have greatly stepped up its move away from the US dollar and toward national currencies for trade.
The SMO in Ukraine, although addressing Russian security concerns is starting to look more and more like a decoy - leading the west into an economic ambush or perhaps just diverting attention from what the other 80% of the world is doing.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 3:55 utc | 154

That the IAEA put out it's BS report on the ZNPP backed in voted by all the western shills and their subordinate lackeys "reflects that"..... all talk no action.

Xi's meek and mild "commentary"at the SCO also reflects that. Does China have a big stick? One they are willing to use? Haven't seen it or heard of it.

I will keep observing though and no worry about it. It's all out of my (our) hands.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 3:57 utc | 155

how far will the rock of black be allowed to extend their parasitic takeover tentacles, buying up everything gone kaput on the cheap?

Neowhatevers force citizens into poverty & bankruptcy and privateer medical care they can’t afford, this now from a virus engineered to cause social chaos amongst those whom they perceive as exploitable, expropriating their assets or attempting to cripple their competitors’ economies.
Posted by: suzan | Sep 19 2022 22:58 utc | 100

Great post and summary of the inhumanity of our times.
Blackrock even buying up Australia now.
Under cover of war and pestilence the transfer of wealth continues unabated.

Posted by: k | Sep 20 2022 4:03 utc | 156

Grieved | Sep 20 2022 3:49 utc | 149

Haven't read the link yet but will do so now. As for five D chess, my impression from studying Putin for so long is that if you want to keep up with him, you have to move into Sun Tzu territory. As Bhadrakumar said, he is a sophisticated thinker.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 4:05 utc | 157

List of US-supplied arms to Ukraine:

fact sheet

In total, the United States has committed approximately $15.2 billion in security assistance to
Ukraine since January 2021, including more than $14.5 billion since the beginning of Russia’s
unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 20 2022 4:17 utc | 158

Grieved | Sep 20 2022 3:49 utc | 149

Very much my own thoughts in that article. Lame duck... where we lived in Queensland, there a large claypan on the river flat. A little bit of gidgee bur would grow there but mostly bare. Plovers would nest there. Come too close to the nest, which was simply camouflaged eggs on bare ground and they would hobble off with a 'broken wing'. I was thinking about that in my reply to juliania.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 4:23 utc | 159

Grieved | Sep 20 2022 3:35 utc | 145

I wrote an email to my sister several weeks ago and in it I put my thoughts that SCO will become an alternative or replacement UN, also that BRICS may come to replace WTO.
I use Mozzilla for my emails and with that email I found Mozzilla was heavily censored. It kept rejecting it as spam and I have not been able to send it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 4:35 utc | 160

The green ideology has always stunk from top to bottom. Every aspect of it. That is why the worst political parties have always been SPD and greens. Every time they rule, we get wars and economic decline. It's not only their ideology, but the intellectual mediocrity which comes with these people, many of whom have never completed their education/tradecraft-training.
Of course in the meantime, many so-called conservatives also hitched onto the green agenda, which is agressively being pushed by the unelected EU commission, banks and oligarchs.

Posted by: Xeen | Sep 20 2022 5:26 utc | 161

the creation of alternative Reserve Currency ... a multi-polar totally sovereign monetary system.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 20 2022 2:44 utc | 140

What's the hold up? I asked
Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 3:53 utc | 151

Another example of reality: Turkish banks suspend use of Russian payment system

Turkish banks joined the Mir payment network in early August, allowing Russian tourists to pay for their purchases in the country. By September the USA threats/pressure has shut it all down.

Last week, the US Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) announced that it was ready to impose sanctions on any institution outside Russia using the country’s payment system. Later, sources told the Financial Times of the US and EU’s intention of putting pressure on Turkish banks, to prevent them from helping Moscow “bypass the sanctions.”
https://www.rt.com/business/563121-turkish-banks-russian-payment-system/

Turkey wants to be a part of the SCO and Brics and the BRI and ...... and still be a NATO member and Ally of the USA? That's Delusional.

These never-ending "US sanctions" are all part of what they mean by this "“rules-based international order”" - Russia and China have not put one tiny dint in this order. All they do is "talk". US/NATO pour weapons into Ukriane - Russia does nothing. Pelodis travels to Taiwan, Biden says they will defend Taiwan if attacked by China, China does nothing.

Words are cheap.

Wha the “rules-based international order” really is is “might is right” - what the US wants the US gets!

No exceptions. Nothing has changed to date. Nothing is about to change. Now or in the years to come.

Only Russia and China voted against the UN-IAEA about the ZNPP - the rest of the "global south states" simply abstained too afraid to actually Vote against the US/Western forces. Turkey folds on using MIR. This is the reality. It's the Truth.

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 5:26 utc | 162

SeanAU | Sep 19 2022 23:38 utc | 106

« - What really changes if Russia is successful with it's SCO Goals in Ukraine? I think nothing changes. »

That is why President Putin and others are putting a great deal of effort into organising the base models of a multipolar world via OPEC+ Gas OPEC, alliances, currency reforms SCO etc etc you got the list

Everyone knows, right, that the Ukraine cauldron is a side show for the plebs, a kind of melting pot where the propagandists can play, count villages, heads, successes setbacks, generally distract themselves from the real business being conducted off stage

I believe that the RF ruling class is a great deal more responsible and careful in the conduct of war, yet they have to take advantage of the Ukie mess to get on with the serious stuff, and to satisfy their own electorate that they are ‘winning’

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 20 2022 5:29 utc | 163

@ SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 5:26 utc | 159 who wrote
"
What the “rules-based international order” really is is “might is right” - what the US wants the US gets!

No exceptions. Nothing has changed to date. Nothing is about to change. Now or in the years to come.
"

If nothing is about to change and you are not being paid to write such drivel, why are you here spewing your textual white noise? Does your text make it so?

I have been watching this shit show for over 50 years and think you are wrong about mis-portraying the constant of change at this time. The might-makes-right folks may be sore losers and nuke us all but their days of world dominance are numbered one way or another.....and I am pleased to watch what I can of the process in the little time I might have left.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 20 2022 5:41 utc | 164

@MisterP | Sep 19 2022 23:26 utc | 103

"This recalls the buzz about "Z" en "V" on allied vehicles at the start of SMO.Has anyone a clue yet,what it means or intent to provoke?"
I guessed it to mean Z - Zapad (west) and V - Vostok (east), but I might be entirely wrong.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 20 2022 5:49 utc | 165

SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 5:26 utc | 159

For most countries heading towards the multipolar world, its a matter of separating banks or creation new banks. Banks that deal with western trade and US$ and Euro's, and banks that deal with the sanctioned global south as it is called.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 5:51 utc | 166

@SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 5:26 utc | 159

Turkey folds on using MIR. This is the reality. It's the Truth.
You seem to be very concerned.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 20 2022 6:07 utc | 167

@SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 5:26 utc | 159

Another example of reality: Turkish banks suspend use of Russian payment system

Turkish banks joined the Mir payment network in early August, allowing Russian tourists to pay for their purchases in the country. By September the USA threats/pressure has shut it all down.

Last week, the US Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) announced that it was ready to impose sanctions on any institution outside Russia using the country’s payment system. Later, sources told the Financial Times of the US and EU’s intention of putting pressure on Turkish banks, to prevent them from helping Moscow “bypass the sanctions.”
https://www.rt.com/business/563121-turkish-banks-russian-payment-system/

I have been writing about the importance of de-dollarization for almost nine years. I have understood early on, that de-dollarization means establishing dollar-free economic and logistic chains in parallel with existing dollarized chains, and then later replacing them.

The West has a trend of labeling products with their carbon footprint. Free World producers must start certifying their products as dollar-free:

$ DOLLAR-FREE $ – No dollars were used to create this product.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 20 2022 6:10 utc | 168

List of US-supplied arms to Ukraine:

fact sheet

I saw a cellphone video recently posted well after the "16 HIMARS in Ukraine" and it showed HIMARS in a convoy going through Romania towards Ukraine. And the Biden administration stopped publishing a military expenditure and arms transfers report.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/biden-stops-publishing-military-expenditures-arms-transfers-report/

The USA probably understates how many weapons they are giving to Ukraine.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 20 2022 6:12 utc | 169

SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 5:26 utc | 159

‘Turkey wants to be a part of the SCO and Brics and the BRI and ...... and still be a NATO member and Ally of the USA? That's Delusional.’

Not at all – Turkey's role as in/go between is, on the contrary, very useful to all concerned

And points to the way forward – the replacing of the $, financial & trading currency systems etc, does not happen in one fell swoop – but creates an alternate in parallel – countries become more adept at the one while less the other

More realistical self interested it would be hard to impagine, but that’s just why Turkey is useful, it’s the manic USEU ideologues who are dangerous

Calm down, don't worry so much, all is going to plan

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 20 2022 6:16 utc | 170

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 3:53 utc | 151

You and many others seem frustrated that Russia and China don't seem to be acting very strong. Pulling back when a bold forward move would seem more effective.

I see Sun Tzu methods at work here particularly "when you are strong appear to be weak".

The unseen strength that Russia has at its disposal is the dislike that so many nations have for how they have been treated by the Western colonial powers. Russia knows that they comprise the majority of the world's population and also the fastest growing economies.

To me the current strategy is to just withstand the enormous pressure being exerted by the West. Blocking moves when attacked. Debilitating upper cuts like increasing energy withdrawal. Generosity to nations who are down on their luck like Pakistan.

Combined all of these show the weaker nations that Russia can withstand blows, fight back a bit and support friendly nations. While all this is going on the hegemons threaten and bluster and make huge mistakes like betting everything on green energy or ruining their economies and their people's health with the COVID scare.

All of this builds into an image of Russia and China as a viable alternative to the Western monstrosity. Groups like the SCO gather regularly, exchange views, participate in mutually beneficial projects and trust each other.

At some point there will be a sufficiently large group of nations who can organise their own alternative to the UN - one which actually practices the UN Charter as it was originally devised. A new HQ will be built in an independent country or possible the new UN will exist in cyber-space. That is eminently feasible with modern technology.

The US and its gang of crones can continue to run their UN with maybe 20 members but it will be irrelevant in terms of international decision making.

If you displease enough people they will want nothing to do with you. By continuing to make the West very angry Russia is forcing it to make ever increasing violent moves in response. In effect fighting against itself. At some stage all that violent energy only weakens the belligerent governments and makes their subject people see how badly they are governed.

That's when the West's Berlin Wall of threats and intimidation collapses. And it will happen overnight.

Posted by: Cyberhorse | Sep 20 2022 6:24 utc | 171

103 MrP
120 Michigan Dude
Piotr Berman
162 Norwegian

Thanks for providing answers to my question.
I've thought as well it could be the initials of Zelensky,or Zapad and Vostok,but why in Latin alphabet then?

Posted by: willie | Sep 20 2022 6:35 utc | 172

I have been watching this shit show for over 50 years.....
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 20 2022 5:41 utc | 161

Me too. Some days are more frustrating than others aren't they?

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 6:37 utc | 173

@Norwegian | Sep 20 2022 5:49 utc | 162, @MisterP @103

I guessed it to mean Z - Zapad (west) and V - Vostok (east), but I might be entirely wrong.

Yes. In January and February troops from the Eastern Military district were transferred to Belarus for exercises. This was the original "V" force attacking Kiev from the north.

At the time I thought that the exercises in Belarus were part of the Vostok 2022 exercises. Turns out Vostok 2022 was held in the east this September after all.

I believe that the ⭕ group is from the Central Military District. (⭕ = Heavy Large Circle Emoji, Unicode U+2B55)

A new "3rd Corps" was deployed to Kharkov in August but moved to DPR in September, ahead of the Ukrainian offensive. These units have a tactical sign with a circle inside an upside down triangle (∇ + 〇)

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 20 2022 6:44 utc | 174

how many UK citizens will que for a trip to sunny Rwanda ? apparently the hotels are great value and tips are low. i had read the UN or WEF had factored in so many million people to move away from europe as economic refugees. they have gamed this already

Posted by: hankster | Sep 20 2022 6:53 utc | 175

@willie | Sep 20 2022 6:35 utc | 169

I've thought as well it could be the initials of Zelensky,or Zapad and Vostok,but why in Latin alphabet then?
Well, they knew the western cancel culture would ban these signs, so why not use the western alphabet? In fact I remember seeing an image of a Russian tank/whatever with the complete Latin alphabet written on it 😎

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 20 2022 6:54 utc | 176

US DNC party has seemingly found a way to keep their money laundering bonanza going. "Long term investments in Ukrainian defense industrial base"..? Sure, if you like to dump $10s of billions directly in the gutter.

The report makes a series of recommendations aimed at bolstering the country's longer term security that fall short of offering full NATO membership, which some member states are wary of doing because of Russia's opposition.

"This requires a multi-decade effort of sustained investment in Ukraine’s defence industrial base, scalable weapons transfers and intelligence support from allies, intensive training missions and joint exercises under the European Union and NATO flags," the report said.

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1572015049262399488

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 20 2022 6:54 utc | 177

@Petri Krohn | Sep 20 2022 6:44 utc | 171

Thanks!

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 20 2022 6:55 utc | 178

@willie | Sep 20 2022 6:35 utc | 169

I've thought as well it could be the initials of Zelensky, or Zapad and Vostok, but why in Latin alphabet then?

Because Cyrillics suck?

They are not letters of some alphabet, but graphical symbols to mark friendly units. Ukrainian forces and often use one of two vertical lines along the length of the vehicle. Now Ukrainians have started using the German Balkenkreuts.

The Latin Z and V are far easier to draw than their Cyrillic counterparts and easy to recognize from a distance. Besides, they have the additional benefit of trolling the Latin alphabet. The West lost two characters.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 20 2022 6:56 utc | 179

@Petri Krohn | Sep 20 2022 6:56 utc | 176

The Latin Z and V are far easier to draw than their Cyrillic counterparts and easy to recognize from a distance.
And the Cyrillic counterparts are too similar to each other and easy to confuse from a distance. From Yandex translate:

East - Восток
West - Запад

The В and the З are too similar from a distance/poor light.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 20 2022 7:12 utc | 180

Russian government should not continue with these grain deals with the western Idiocrats any further. They are attempting to weaponize grain in an attempt to extort the still impoverished countries. During times of global shortages they could be banned from the list of exports in favor of countries that are not on the list of "non-friendlies".

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 20 2022 7:17 utc | 181

SeanAU #106 ff

I agree there will be no revolts in europe.
But I don't agree to your political fatalism.
You completely disregard the situation into which Europe has been thrown by the USA.

The American secret services have been telling them in Berlin for weeks: Don't be distracted, we've got this under control, Putin will be gone in a year, then we'll dismantle Russia and the gas will be ours. We won't repeat the mistake of the 90s of keeping Russia as a whole and letting a Putin come up.

They believe that. Scholz and von der Leyen, Habeck and Baerbock actually believe that. What else are they supposed to believe? They thus also believe that the deindustrialisation of this country is only a temporary phenomenon. That's why they remain so relaxed in the chancellorship. Next year it will all be over! You can freeze a little for that, can't you?

The absurdities told by a Gen. Ben Hodges (even Finland could easily defeat Russia, etc.) are necessary propaganda of a losing war party. The morale of a suffering population must be maintained by all means. For this they invent alleged successes of Ukraine, and Putin is ailing and failing at every turn. It will soon be over! We are winning! The the fossiles will be ours!

But what will happen if they don't win? Europe will lose out economically to the top of the world in Asia, and there is no question that this will also reduce its political power. It may be a process that spans a generation, but it is inevitable.

The situation is similar in the USA. When they were still the unique superpower, they decided to build Germany into an economically strong partner in the fight against the SU. Marshall Plan instead of Morgenthau Plan. Today it is the other way round. They are afraid of a strong Germany that could ally itself with the Asian powers. This is a defensive agenda, an agenda of losers.

The political power of the USA has ceased to secure the superiority of American companies and to pave the way for them. Today, this power is supposed to compensate for the lack of success. But this will not work because it turns the relationship between business and politics on its head.

The USA lost this war a long time ago. It is a hybrid war against Russia and China, whose sharpest weapon was political isolation and economic sanctions. But both are no longer effective. The American pomposity is arrogant hubris, the calculation of the Germans to become a European second world power in the slipstream of the USA is simply ridiculous.

At some point they will realise this. Then it will become really dangerous. The Russians and the Chinese know that. That is why they always remain one step below the escalation level that NATO has long since entered. Russia and China are in no hurry. They also know that time is on their side. They want to end this war without defeat. Because nuclear superpowers know no defeat.

Posted by: njet | Sep 20 2022 7:19 utc | 182

SeanAU

I get it - you're suffering from 5Eyeitis, and going cold turkey!

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 20 2022 7:25 utc | 183

Petri Krohn,Norwegian,

thanks again,your comments make sense.

Posted by: willie | Sep 20 2022 7:35 utc | 184

@njet | Sep 20 2022 7:19 utc | 179

That is the best explanation I have seen so far regarding the insane behavior of Scholz, von der Leyen & co.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 20 2022 7:39 utc | 185

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 20 2022 5:49 utc | 162

"This recalls the buzz about "Z" en "V" on allied vehicles at the start of SMO.Has anyone a clue yet,what it means or intent to provoke?"
I guessed it to mean Z - Zapad (west) and V - Vostok (east), but I might be entirely wrong."

Norwegian, I think you are right and these letters refer to the military districts involved.

Posted by: Paul GV | Sep 20 2022 7:41 utc | 186

I see Sun Tzu methods at work here particularly "when you are strong appear to be weak".

The problem is that for observers that is indistinguishable from "When you are weak, appear weak". Hence, some commenters doubt Russian and Chinese capacity. That doesn't make them "concern trolls".

Russia and China have both talked a lot about red lines and dire consequences, and then done nothing when those lines were crossed. Is it 56D chess? Revenge best served cold? Weakness? We can only say in retrospect.

Posted by: Herr Ringbone | Sep 20 2022 7:47 utc | 187

Another aspect of the larger hybrid war is the US bio weapon labs. From the latest Rus MoD briefing, Russia may well be turning this to their own advantage by dragging more countries away from the US.
I posted the machine translated briefing on the Geneva presentation and meeting here earlier.
https://vk.com/@739151204-bio-weapons-briefing-sep-19-geneva

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 7:53 utc | 188

njet | Sep 20 2022 7:19 utc | 179

« They thus also believe that the deindustrialisation of this country is only a temporary phenomenon. »

But they know better than to believe that – because there’s no such thing as’ temporary’ de industrialisation

They must believe, logically or apparently, in all the stupid things that lead them to behave as stupidly as they do, which is to institute policies designed to ruin the EU

They may think that they, individually, can get away with this, and believe in the Miami condos awaiting them

It is a futile exercise to discern or to attribute, by means of reason, motives to those who behave without reason : as futile as to reason with propagandists

Both are sure signs of defeat - I'll agree with you

Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 20 2022 7:57 utc | 189

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 7:53 utc | 185

While the globohomo empire media plays dumb and pretends not to hear it, one can be pretty sure that is not the case in other countries. Thus there is also a lack of perception what is going outside globohomo empire. Lack of understanding how things work can often be fatal, and increase the negative effects and emotions during the five stages of grief, leading to more costly mistakes.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 20 2022 8:00 utc | 190

https://www.rt.com/news/563133-putin-erdogan-zelensky-ukraine/
Russia’s President Vladimir Putin wants to see a swift conclusion to the conflict in Ukraine, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Monday in an interview with the PBS NewsHour program.


Unfortunately, I think, Putin just blinked.
The collective west is now going to eat Russia for breakfast.

Posted by: rex | Sep 20 2022 8:04 utc | 191

Thank you Suzan@100 and bevin @141.
Absolutely the best posts to start my day!
And bevin, thank you for your many erudite and relevant posts. I look out for your posts wherever.

Posted by: Vragtes | Sep 20 2022 8:05 utc | 192

@Proteiros | Sep 20 2022 2:47 utc | 142

About the stuck fertilizer, it looks like it wasn't news to Estonia.

Oh shit!

Let's hope the US does not pour any more gasoline on this fuck up. Or worse, diesel oil!

State moves closer to removing hazardous fertilizer from Muuga port

06.09.22 NEWS ... The Consumer Protection and Technical Regulatory Authority (TTJA) has completed an injunction, enabling the owner of a shipment of explosive fertilizer, currently stuck at the DBT Terminal in Muuga harbor, to apply for an exemption from the Financial Intelligence Unit, which would allow its removal.

State looking for solutions on hazardous fertilizer stranded at Muuga port

25.08.22 ECONOMY ... The state is preparing an exemption which will allow the sale of a large quantity of ammonium nitrate fertilizer still in port at Muuga, east of Tallinn, with the express purpose of having it removed from Estonian territory.

Finance ministry: Sanctioned fertilizer at Muuga not up for sale

11.08.22 NEWS ... Large quantities of fertilizer stranded at Muuga harbor following sanctions placed on the Russian Federation are not at this point up for sale, despite Estonian farmers' interest in purchasing the embargoed product – which also presents a potential hazard when left where it is, in such volume.

Sanctioned fertilizer stuck in Muuga Harbor cannot be used in Estonia

28.07.22 NEWS ... Estonian ministries and the agricultural sector are trying to find a solution to dispose of 80,000 tonnes of sanctioned Russian fertilizer stuck in Estonia's Muuga Harbor which, if not stored correctly, could become dangerous. The government said it cannot be used by Estonian farmers.

Dangerous fertilizer cargo stuck at Muuga harbor due to Russian sanctions

13.07.22 NEWS ... 80,000 tonnes of fertilizer cargo is stranded in the Port of Muuga as a result of anti-Russian sanctions, including 12,000 tons of explosive ammonium nitrate, which becomes more hazardous as time passes.

Russian oligarch-owned business continues to earn millions in Estonia

04.04.22 NEWS ... Logistics company DBT, which is owned by Viatcheslav Kantor, a businessman in Russian President Vladimir Putin's favor and Russia's 16th richest person, continues to operate unimpeded at the Port of Tallinn-owned Muuga Harbor, as the West has yet to impose any sanctions on him. European dependence on Russian fertilizer may continue to keep Kantor safe from being sanctioned as well.

Port of Tallinn: No layoffs yet resulted from Ukraine invasion disruption

01.04.22 ECONOMY ... The part-state-owned Port of Tallinn (Tallinna Sadam) says it has not had to make any layoffs as a result of sanctions on the Russian Federation following the invasion of Ukraine.

A major industry in the Baltic States has been providing port services to the Russian Federation and to the greater Eurasia. Anti-Russian policies of the Baltic States have forced Russia to build their own port terminals. Russian crude oil used to be exported through the oil terminal in Ventspils in Latvia. Now Russia has built a new terminal in Ust-Luga.

Finland too is destroying its economy with sanctions. Finland had already become the terminus of the Trans-Siberian railroad route from China. In March Finland cut all railroad transport to Russia. Finnair lost its lucrative Asian routes after Finland banned Russian planes from Finnish airspace. In May, Finland refused to pay the gas and electricity bills for April, leading to a minor energy crisis in Finland.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 20 2022 8:09 utc | 193

russia is putting too many cards on winter. we are talking about a totally obedient population. and european politicians? i think they are seriously believe how america will step up, destroy russia in some blitzkrieg military operation and everything will be fine and dandy again. state of abundance will be back.

Posted by: denazi | Sep 20 2022 8:15 utc | 194

@Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2022 5:51 utc | 163

Thanks, yes. They seem very slow. I'm a bit impatient today that's all.

You seem to be very concerned.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 20 2022 6:07 utc | 164

No not concerned 'Norwegian'. I'm making some comments on matters reported in the news as they relate to some other observations/news I've been thinking about. No biggy. Don't mind me.

@Petri Krohn | Sep 20 2022 6:10 utc | 165

What a great / humorous idea ... 'No dollars were used to create this product.'

Calm down, don't worry so much, all is going to plan
Posted by: Gerrard White | Sep 20 2022 6:16 utc | 167

Thanks Gerrard, I hope you're right there. I've calmed down already.

(and the SCO) trust each other. At some point there will be a sufficiently large group of nations who can organise their own alternative to the UN [...] That's when the West's Berlin Wall of threats and intimidation collapses. And it will happen overnight.
by: Cyberhorse | Sep 20 2022 6:24 utc | 168

That's a good appraisal Cyberhorse. Thanks for that. I do hope you're right. I have been feeling though that this notion which I agree with - "If you displease enough people they will want nothing to do with you. " seems to be taking forever.

I would have thought the world would have been at this point decades ago already. They aren't. What more proof do people need? The GFC alone should have been enough. Is WMD in Iraq, and Syria and Ukraine and now NATO BS not more than enough already? Obviously not.

Oh well. It is what it is, so patient I will be. No worries. And thanks for the feedback. Cheers

Posted by: SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 8:18 utc | 195

"This recalls the buzz about "Z" en "V" on allied vehicles at the start of SMO.Has anyone a clue yet,what it means or intent to provoke?"<\I>

Sigh…..

it’s simple identification
Z = Western Command/Corps
V = Southern Command/Corps

Posted by: Exile | Sep 20 2022 8:19 utc | 196

SeanAU | Sep 20 2022 3:53 utc | 151

The Chinese just don't talk about the changes they are making. They have reduced their holdings of US treasury Bond by 71%. They still have in excess of $930 Billion though, which puts them in second place after Japan. Having seen what happened to the Russian assets, there is no longer public emphasis on dedollarization.
*
Mir Card system; This is another proof of the Corporate takeover of US Policy. (Sanctions in this case). It is similar to the pressure once put on Modi by Visa and MasterCard, which resulted in the death of thousands of poor people, who did not have banking accounts but suffered when the 500 rupee note was discontinued. (They kept cash. The inconvertabilty of the note was designed to force them to open a card account with one of the two big US corporations)
*
Anyone understand why three underage children were sanctioned by the US?
****

hankster | Sep 20 2022 6:53 utc | 172.

Rwanda. Been there done that, in the six weeeks just before the massacres as a "consultant".
Guards on the doors of the Hotels. VERY necessary.

Pretty place but not everywhere is a nature reserve.

One of the primary reasons for the massacres was the overpopulation. Sending "refugees" there now has sinister implications.

Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 20 2022 8:22 utc | 197

Unfortunately, I think, Putin just blinked.
The collective west is now going to eat Russia for breakfast.

Posted by: rex | Sep 20 2022 8:04 utc | 188

That seems more of a generic statement. Of course 'everyone' including US have wanted a quick end to the conflict... right?

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 20 2022 8:23 utc | 198

Meanwhile, Martyanov is writing that the Russians pulling back from Kharkov region was all part of a great plan. LMFAO. Yeah, and the Moskva still sunk due to a fire too mate.

Yes, first spend 6 months losing troops and equipment to gain territory you don't want, then demoralise your own men by showing them how it was all for nothing as you lose it all in 3 days, while giving the usual BBC, WaPo et al. the perfect opportunity to mock Russia and vilify it with fabrications of more fake Bucha stories, what a perfect plan!

https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/09/about-obvious.html

In other news, so much for 'Europe is gonna freeze'... well, my apartment in Germany already has central heating turned on and it's still 20C outside... guess whoever made that choice either isn't worried or is a card carrying Greens voter. I hope we won't regret it in March/April...

Posted by: Et Tu | Sep 20 2022 8:30 utc | 199

Posted by: denazi | Sep 20 2022 8:15 utc | 191

The story of 'freezing in the winter' may be partially true, but another fact is it was largely propagated by MSM.

The other untold story is de-industrialization. You might soon see glass or aluminum beer cans missing, broken glass replacements costs in the stratosphere (you'll need a lot soon), tooth paste shortages, etc. I don't think a lot of people fully appreciate what de-industrialization means. Decrease in quality of life all over the board. Global travel, non-GMO food missing. Eat your insects.

Per US forcing non-trade policies with China down EU's throat, products will be hard to get, or much more costly from China.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 20 2022 8:38 utc | 200

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