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September 15, 2022
Open (NOT Ukraine) Thread 2022-150

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The European Union Wundercrats dismantling the aluminum industry, mining and smelting in general is another thing dismantling the illusions of green energy. But it was all in the RAND paper, the Greens are useful idiots, eh.
Aluminium
1. by EOY 50% EU smelting capacity offline due to high energy prices
2. 1 wind turbine needs 3 tons
3. New gen. solar panels= 2X’s amount of this metal v older gens.
3. A single EV on avg. requires 250kg of this metal
Wrote about this in July

https://twitter.com/chigrl/status/1570484904751935488

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2022 9:17 utc | 101

https://www.voltairenet.org/article217976.html
Compare and contrast with RAND leak

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 16 2022 10:09 utc | 102

Dead Queen Worship Magick Covid Immunity.
Is anyone else wondering how the great threat of Covid has suddenly disappeared with the departed HMQ?
Or is it that her being raised to a saint means that 9 hours queuing with strangers or the gathering of millions from across the country and even simpletons from around the Collective Waste, flying into file past her coffin, renders immunity to these worshippers?
Asking for a friend who doesn’t have a Covid ‘passport’ because they had and recovered from Covid twice and considers that to infer full immunity better than some endless nouveaux vaccines – but isn’t allowed to travel.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 16 2022 10:26 utc | 103

Asking for a friend who doesn’t have a Covid ‘passport’ because they had and recovered from Covid twice and considers that to infer full immunity better than some endless nouveaux vaccines – but isn’t allowed to travel.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 16 2022 10:26 utc | 105
They aren’t traveling to and fro UK hopefully. I’m going soon and last I checked no test was necessary there.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 11:06 utc | 104

O tempora, o mores!
On Sunday I was watching the 9 o’clock news on Channel One Russia. I do not own a television set, but my friend has a TV and a paid subscription to three Russian channels with the cable TV operator. War news was the top story, for the first time in some days. I noticed that they were showing drone footage from Donbass, with Ukrainian solders killed by artillery fire in closeups on live video. (I cannot say the footage shocked me, I had already seen the same videos on the Lugansk 4th Brigade’s Telegram channel.)
The Sunday news broadcast lasted over two hours. After it ended, we did some channel surfing and ended watching a movie on the Finnish Public Broadcasting channel. It is difficult to follow a movie that may have been running for half an hour, but I immediately recognized the place and context. The film was The Post from 2017, directed by Steven Spielberg. In effect it is a prequel to All the President’s Men released 40 years earlier in 1976. Washington Post executive editor Benjamin Bradlee plays a central role in both films, with Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward (played by Hoffman and Redford) staring in the 1976 film. Richard Nixon is the supervillain in both productions.
The Post is about the publishing of the Pentagon Papers by the New York Times and the Washington Post in 1971. The documents, officially titled Report of the Office of the Secretary of Defense Vietnam Task Force, was a United States Department of Defense history of the United States’ political and military involvement in Vietnam from 1945 to 1967. The report was printed in 15 copies. Two of these were given to the RAND Corporation.
A federal court injunction forces The New York Times to cease publication of the Pentagon Papers. Washington Post reporter Ben Bagdikian figures out that the leaker is Daniel Ellsberg, a former employee of the RAND Corporation, and gains access to the documents. The film then focuses of the legal battle at the Supreme Court between the Nixon administration and the Times and the Post. Freedom and democracy win. Everyone is happy. According to Justice Black

Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell.

The film ends with a “post-title sequence”, showing the discovery of the Watergate burglary by security guard Frank Wills, which was further exposed by the Post and ultimately led to Nixon’s resignation. The camera zooms in on the door. In large letters it says “Democratic National Committee”. We all know how this ended in the 1970s. The good guys won and the bad guys were fired or sent to prison.
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Decades after seeing the All the President’s Men, I cannot remember if Washington Post publisher Katharine Graham was shown on screen. IMDb says no, but I believe the film had her on the other end of a phone line with Benjamin Bradlee, making the final decision on publishing. In The Post, her character, played by Meryl Streep, is central. One of the obstacles to publishing the Pentagon Papers was the public offering of shares in the Washington Post Company on June 15, 1971, two days after The New York Times began publishing excerpts from the documents. The film portrays Graham making the decision to publish, against an army of corporate lawyers and financiers.
The Meyer–Graham family controlled the Washington Post for almost a century. Now it is said to be controlled by Jeff Bezos and the CIA. I doubt they would publish the Pentagon Papers today.
O tempora, o mores! How have RAND Corporation and DNC changed!

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 16 2022 11:42 utc | 105

@
“They aren’t traveling to and fro UK hopefully. I’m going soon and last I checked no test was necessary there.”
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 11:06 utc | 106
Still required for travel to Europe and to America and many parts of the World.
C.f Djokovic
It is a LIE and it is evident by the militaristic broohaha about a dead Queen of the Evil Empire run by murderous secretive ghoul ancient aristos and henchfolk.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 16 2022 12:04 utc | 106

So in the tail end of the ‘Kherson Offensive neither success nor failure’ thread, I mused about the referenced video of Austria’s Colonel Reisner and his recent switch to head the ceremonial guard. Also linked to the Wikipedia entry on Western Ukraine wherein a remark is written about the history of Western Ukraine, it going to the Austria-Hungarian empire while central and eastern Ukraine were Russian domain, post-Poland partition.
Curiosity led me to do a quick search on news from Austria:
Idaho based carrier sells to Austrian forwarder Berger Logistik
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/idaho-based-carrier-sells-to-austrian-forwarder-berger-logistik
Croatia’s competition regulator approves Austria’s Pipelife acquisition of Vargon
https://seenews.com/news/croatias-competition-regulator-approves-austrias-pipelife-acquisition-of-vargon-798103
It’s just that here in North America, when controlling interests in transportation (trucking) and concrete are discussed, it tends to direct the conversation to—- never mind.
In other news:
Strengthening Italian-Austrian economic relations: Italy receives Austrian Federal President
https://www.vindobona.org/article/strengthening-italian-austrian-economic-relations-italy-receives-austrian-federal-president
And the New York Post covered the upcoming Porsche IPO, 911 million shares included
https://nypost.com/2022/09/15/porsche-ipo-to-comprise-911-million-shares/
German president Steinmeier is attending Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral.
“Even before he heads to London and Mexico City, President Steinmeier has a full schedule. Today, he welcomed Rashad Al-Alimi, the President of the Presidential Council of Yemen. This afternoon, Georgia’s Prime Minister Irakli Garibashvili will be his guest. Guess who is coming for dinner on Friday: the speakers of the parliaments in the G7 states and Ukraine.”
https://berlinspectator.com/2022/09/14/president-steinmeier-to-visit-mexico-attend-queen-elizabeths-funeral-in-london/

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 16 2022 12:21 utc | 107

It is a LIE and it is evident by the militaristic broohaha about a dead Queen of the Evil Empire run by murderous secretive ghoul ancient aristos and henchfolk.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 16 2022 12:04 utc | 108
Thanks for your reply. But:
What does it mean?!?!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 12:22 utc | 108

Given that Iran is about to join the SCO, of which Russia and China are leaders, how does this alter the strategic alliance between Russia and ‘israel’?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 16 2022 12:29 utc | 109

@Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 16 2022 10:09 utc | 104
A carbon copy, indeed….

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Sep 16 2022 14:12 utc | 110

@Ghost of Mozgovoy #64
For some – including me – the very fact that it is a hot twitter item is almost indisputable proof that it is fake.
Using Twitter posts to support the validity of anything is a no-go.
In any case, I have yet to see any logical, credible, or reasonable support for it being real. The many problems with it which have been noted here and elsewhere are real; those of us who have actually read real RAND reports don’t see this one as being anywhere remotely approaching the tone, style, content or consistency of such real reports.
For me in particular – the voicing of things that are never spoken out loud is the biggest red flag. If a bureaucratic organization is engaged in what it clearly knows is illegal, immoral and/or improper behavior – it never says so in writing. That’s the entire purpose of euphemisms. Saying the goal of the US elites is to destroy the German economy is precisely such a case: even if true, you don’t put it down in writing, ever. You call it the “freeing the German economy from Russian energy manipulation” or some such.
But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 14:16 utc | 111

Scorpion @ 84
I assume Mathis is intelligence. He is chronically a liar. Most liars are just tiresome to read and easily put aside. That Mathis is engaging and challenging almost all the time while just openly selling a line of bullshit is quite amazing.
He is from the same families he writes about. That is how he knows what he knows. If we knew why his persona was created and why it is funded and why it is permitted we would know a lot.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 16 2022 14:19 utc | 112

@Cabe #82
Read the texts that Strzok and Page were exchanging.
They are just one example where it is the class nature of Strzok and Page that prompted their behavior – not any secret cabal diktats.
That’s why the Deep State is so insidious: it isn’t some snake you can cut the head off.
It is an entire demographic.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 14:20 utc | 113

@Petri Krohn #91
Absolute formatting is zero proof of provenance; there are a multitude of tools enabling trivial copying of templates given a source. You can literally cut and paste from web pages or even photographs into text editors, these days.
That’s why modern analysis focuses on style, content, consistency and other means to divine provenance.
And as I have noted above: this document smells like a rat in so many ways. It reads more like an evil-ninja-wannabe geek or a movie cartoon villain a la Blofeld output than the true evil shit that RAND writes up all the time.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 14:24 utc | 114

@Paul Greenwood #102
The Executive Summary is written to summarize the facts.
The presence of assumed beliefs/statements shared between the author and the audience have no place in the summary, because it conveys zero information not already known and is thus a waste of space.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 14:26 utc | 115

My last note for now on the supposed RAND document:
As I noted in my first posting: this “executive summary” has so many problems with it, that it screams fake.
I did note that there is an extremely small chance it is a pre-editorial work. I say this is extremely small because generally editorial work occurs BEFORE the executive summary.
It would be extremely odd to have an executive summary so filled with non-useful content as this one; however, it would not be odd if this is a real executive summary with several sentences inserted.
But were this the case, then the document is fake: insertion of extraneous material would invalidate its authenticity.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 14:33 utc | 116

He is from the same families he writes about. That is how he knows what he knows. If we knew why his persona was created and why it is funded and why it is permitted we would know a lot.
Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 16 2022 14:19 utc | 114
But we never do know, do we?
(Although we do know how they smell, taste or feel…)
That McGovern Laurel Canyon book (which I read as articles before the book came out) was a real eye opener. I had read about MK Ultra stuff long before in the early 80s, including how Marylin and Kristofferson et alia were part of it all but Laurel Canyon took it to a whole different, much broader, level. I don’t trust it necessarily in all respects but the connections between the rock stars and their MICI* parents is quite something. Ever since I regard all print and broadcast media as Mockingbird stuff and assume it’s mainly disinformation with maybe 25% truth mixed in.
At the same time they are pushing a head trip on us all. They want us to think they see all, know all, control all. That’s true for their slice of reality but not the whole pie. They are powerful, yes, but like trolls in LOTR also stupid, narrow-minded and for all their high IQ guile and gadgetry they lack wisdom.
This SMO got me riled up but hope can soon go back to other things and ignore them and their ugly works. Life is too short, precious and beautiful to waste it nitpicking through their litter boxes!
Dylan may well be part of Mockingbird world but they aren’t on his level even if they did take some of his soul. He can outfox any handler. He has aged exceptionally well and there is still thunder on that mountain though the dusk is coming down hard and the long night beckons.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 15:01 utc | 117

Oops… MICI =
Military Industrial Congressional Intelligence

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 15:03 utc | 118

Sweden Democrats – far right political party – wins as part of coalition in Sweden
Sweden Election

In Sweden, voters delivered a narrow mandate after elections on Sunday to a loose coalition of right-wing parties, including one with a neo-fascist past. On Wednesday evening, Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson, a center-left Social Democrat allied to other left and green parties, conceded defeat. Her party had won 30 percent of the vote — making it still the single largest faction in parliament — but their coalition secured three fewer seats than their rivals to the right.
The kingmakers in Sweden are the far-right Sweden Democrats (SD), a party founded in 1988 by ultranationalist extremists and neo-Nazis. Over the past decade, they have moved from the fringes of their country’s politics into the mainstream. This week, they secured some 20 percent of the Swedish vote, enough to make them the second-largest party in Sweden.
But they may not formally be in power. Such is the political stigma around them that they may remain technically outside a government led by the center-right Moderates and Liberals, yet crucially not in opposition. Coalition politics carry many complexities and wrangling over the new government may take weeks. Whatever the outcome, it seems the far-right SD believes it has a major seat at the table in a country long known for its progressive ethos and policies.
“Now we will get order in Sweden,” SD leader Jimmie Akesson wrote Wednesday on Facebook. “It is time to start rebuilding security, prosperity and cohesion. It’s time to put Sweden first.”

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 15:34 utc | 119

Samarkand SCO Summit is now history. All of Putin’s many interactions are available at Kremlin website. The collective and very important “Samarkand Declaration of the Council of Heads of State of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization” again reiterates what’s important. Here’s its Preamble:

The leaders of the member states of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (hereinafter referred to as the SCO or the Organization), following the meeting of the Council of Heads of State of the Member States in Samarkand on September 16, 2022, declare the following.
Today, the world is undergoing global changes, entering a new era of rapid development and large-scale transformations. These fundamental processes are accompanied by the strengthening of multipolarity, the strengthening of interconnectedness, the acceleration of the pace of informatization and digitalization. Against this background, the modern system of international challenges and threats is becoming more complicated, there is a dangerous degradation of the state of affairs in the world, existing conflicts and crises are exacerbated and new local conflicts and crises are emerging.
The growing technological and digital divide, the continuing turbulence of global financial markets, the global decline in investment flows, the instability of supply chains, the strengthening of protectionist measures and other barriers to international trade exacerbate instability and uncertainty in the global economy.
The effects of global climate change and the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic pose additional challenges to economic growth, social well-being and food security, and the implementation of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. To that end, new approaches are needed to promote fairer and more effective international cooperation and sustainable economic development.
The Member States, relying on the proximity or coincidence of assessments of the current regional and international agenda, reaffirm their commitment to the formation of a more representative, democratic, just and multipolar world order based on the universally recognized principles of international law, multilateralism, equal, joint, indivisible, integrated and sustainable security, cultural and civilizational diversity, mutually beneficial and equal cooperation of states in the central coordinating role of the UN.
In accordance with the principles of the SCO Charter, the Member States adhere to a line that excludes bloc, ideological and confrontational approaches to solving problems of international and regional development, countering traditional and non-traditional challenges and threats to security. Taking into account the views of the Member States, they reaffirm the relevance of initiatives to promote cooperation in building a new type of international relations in the spirit of mutual respect, justice, equality and mutually beneficial cooperation, as well as the formation of a common vision of the idea of creating a community with a shared future for mankind.
The Member States stand for respect for the right of peoples to independent and democratic choice of the ways of their political and socio-economic development, emphasize that the principles of mutual respect for the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity of States, equality, mutual benefit, non-interference in internal affairs, non-use of force or threat of use of force are the basis for the sustainable development of international relations. They reaffirm their commitment to the peaceful resolution of differences and disputes between countries through dialogue and consultation.
The Member States reaffirm the non-direction of the SCO against other states and international organizations and openness to broad cooperation with them in accordance with the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, the SCO Charter and international law, taking into account mutual interests and common approaches to solving regional and global problems.

More to follow.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 16 2022 15:37 utc | 120

Putin’s speech during the Meeting of the Council of Heads of State of the SCO Member States. Some selected excerpts:

Now I would just like to repeat: fundamental transformations have been outlined in world politics and the economy, and they are irreversible. The growing role of new centers of power is becoming more and more clearly manifested, interacting with each other not on the basis of some rules imposed from the outside, which no one has seen, but on the universally recognized principles of the supremacy of international law and the UN Charter: ensuring equal and indivisible security, respect for sovereignty, national values and interests of each other.
It is on these principles, devoid of any elements of egoism, that the joint work of the SCO member states is built both in politics and in the economy, which opens up broad prospects for further mutually beneficial cooperation in politics, the economy, in the cultural, humanitarian and other fields….
A vivid example of this egoism is the decision of the European Commission to lift sanctions against Russian fertilizers. We know how important fertilizers are for solving the food problem. Of course, we welcome the decision to lift the sanctions. But it turns out that these sanctions, in accordance with the explanation of the European Commission of September 10 of this year, were lifted only for the EU member states. It turns out that only they can purchase our fertilizers. What about the developing, poorest countries in the world?
Taking advantage of the presence of Deputy Head of the UN Secretary-General Ms Rosemary DiCarlo, I would like to ask the UN Secretariat, and the day before yesterday I spoke about this with the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Mr Guterres, to influence the decision of the European Commission and, not in words, but in deeds, to demand from them, from colleagues in the European Commission, that they remove these obviously discriminatory restrictions against developing countries and ensure access for Russian fertilizers to these markets.
In addition, the day before yesterday he also informed Mr. Guterres that 300 thousand tons of Russian fertilizers had accumulated in the seaports of the European Union. We are ready to donate them to developing countries free of charge.
In addition, I would like to note that Russia is increasing grain exports to world markets. This year it will be 30 million tons, next year we will increase to 50 million tons. Basically, 90 percent of our food goes to the markets of Asia, Africa and Latin America.

I’ll note that this speech is one of Putin’s shortest.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 16 2022 15:46 utc | 121

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Aren’t you all missing the point?
I believe the document is a forgery, however it is a forgery filled with independent truths and/or likelihoods.
Two main possibilities as I see it:
1. Someone (third party or not) decided to have a go at doing propaganda.
· Backdating anything within a few years is a breeze and almost impossible to detect even with physical objects unless some kind of freak accident is involved and tripped up the creator.
· Copying PDF styles is trivial, simply edit the text and metadata in an existing one and chop it into size. Calibre (Wikipedia link) anyone? It’s open source.
· Whether the document is genuine or not and whether this is established or not is completely irrelevant if the goal is to popularize and disseminate suppressed points of view. Full marks for this one, it’s the way to do it.
The bold text is the point not to miss out on.
2. Unless of course the aim was to discredit the content in which case it’s a total failure (Streisand effect, the popularity of “conspiracy” theories, Overton window, and so on).
I would advise against using the document itself as any kind of argument. It is unnecessary to do so.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 16 2022 15:53 utc | 122

Christoforou’s clown world today: van der Crazy talking about the “Russian military taking chips from dishwashers”:
Christoforou updated Sep 16 2022 on Youtube
This is really funny, because the West was doing this much earlier:
ASML CEO says washing machine chips being ripped out

Anyone who has tried to buy a car or home appliance lately knows the chip shortage is still pretty bad. But it has become so dire that large industrial companies are buying washing machines in order to rip out the chips and repurpose them, according to ASML CEO Peter Wennink.
“Now, we could say that’s an anecdote,” he said on the company’s earnings call Wednesday. “But to be honest, it happens everywhere — it is 15-, 20-, 25-year-old semiconductor technology that is now being used everywhere.”
Wennink said that internet of things is likely driving the demand for these older chips found inside home appliances.

Note above article is from April 2022.
So. Much. Winning.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 15:58 utc | 123

@Sunny Runny Burger #124
There was no response because your assertion is not a very good one.
Let’s examine it in more detail: the RAND document is irrelevant because the West wants to promote the idea that the US wants to destroy the German economy.
How exactly does pushing an official document saying so, help?
Does informing the German (and American) people make this effort easier?
Are votes even needed for this process?
From my view: I see the answers to the above questions as being:
No help at all, possible harm.
American and German people don’t matter – but stirring them up could well cause problems or a failure.
No votes are needed if this policy is already underway.
So 0 for 3. Fail.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 16:01 utc | 124

Note above article is from April 2022.
So. Much. Winning.
Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 15:58 utc | 125
It would be awesome if this chip shortage led them to stop putting little computers into everything.
Nah.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 16 2022 16:06 utc | 125

@c1ue | Sep 16 2022 16:01 utc | 126
Another way to look at the “RAND” document is as a limited hangout designed to soften the blow of the real economic fallout.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 16:08 utc | 126

I think the purpose of the “Rand Document” is to discredit the narrative that the US wants to separate the EU from Asia in order to plunder it, by getting ahead of the story in order to call it a conspiracy theory. Not the first time.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 16 2022 16:11 utc | 127

SCO Leaders Sign Samarkand Declaration (RIA Novosti, September 16, 2022 — in Russian)

As a result of the Summit, the member countries of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization have signed the Samarkand Declaration.
The main provisions of the document are:

  • The countries confirmed that the SCO is not directed against other states and international organizations and also noted the openness for cooperation, taking into account mutual interests;
  • Called for an increase in the effectiveness of the WTO and reform of the organization, taking into account modern economic realities;
  • Declared their intention to build up cooperation in the field of defense and security, create a single list of terrorist and extremist organizations, and also stressed the importance of holding joint anti-terrorist command and staff exercises Peace Mission;
  • Condemned the unilateral build-up of global missile defense (ABM) systems by individual countries. This, in their opinion, has a negative impact on international security and stability;
  • Opposed the militarization of the ICT [information and communications technology — S] sector and supported the launch of the development under the auspices of the UN of an international convention on combating the use of ICT for criminal purposes;
  • Called for compliance with the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on Their Destruction (CWC);
  • Advocated for the preservation of outer space free of weapons and stressed the need to conclude an international legally binding instrument that could guarantee the prevention of an arms race in outer space;
  • Recognized as important the implementation of the action plan for Iran’s nuclear program [Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action — S], advocated strict observance of the provisions of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons;
  • Emphasized the need for an inclusive government in Afghanistan with the participation of representatives of all ethnic, religious and political groups;
  • Agreed to create a special group on start-ups and innovations, as well as a group on poverty alleviation and [a group — S] on traditional medicine;
  • Approved the title of SCO Goodwill Ambassador;
  • Declared 2023 to be the Year of Tourism.

In total, the member countries have signed about 40 documents, including a Comprehensive Plan for the Implementation of the Agreement on Long-Term Good-Neighborliness, Friendship and Cooperation.

Posted by: S | Sep 16 2022 16:15 utc | 128

An observational note: I recently obtained a copy of Hudson’s revised edition of Global Fracture which was intended as the sequel to Super Imperialism and examines the attempt to launch a New Economic Order during the latter 1970s, with the new Introduction examining the failures and their reasons. Hudson also tells us what the Outlaw US Empire did in retaliation to that effort which is very helpful as many of those methods are being employed today. Note how Putin in his speech again voices the notion that the coming Multipolar World–the newest effort at establishing a New Economic Order–is “irreversible.” It is the conflict/struggle to establish the new and oust the old that Hudson says is at root which many of us are now beginning to understand and accept. We are also beginning to understand that this process will take years to become finalized and that Ukraine is but one action happening amongst many that will occur during this conflict as the Outlaw US Empire isn’t going to lay down and surrender–it must be forced to concede as it won’t agree to anything limiting its unipolarity or unilateralism. And that is also something we must accept–look at the lives its “sacrificing” in Ukraine to continue its dominance. And those deaths are another thing we must accept as part of our struggle, although we’d rather they weren’t necessary. Unfortunately, the Outlaw US Empire is the one feeding that killing machine as I wrote last night.
Back to the SCO Summit. There’re 21 documents that were agreed to besides the Statement that can be found here. (Currently, only the first four are linked.) IMO, one of the most interesting given the current context is the Statement by the Council of Heads of State of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization on Ensuring International Energy Security, which in part says the following:
“In order to stimulate the clean energy market and contribute to global efforts to achieve carbon neutrality, we advocate the formation of a clean, low-carbon, safe and efficient energy system, as well as the diversification of energy sources and energy sources. It is important, taking into account the conditions and characteristics of each State, to take advantage of the common and complementary benefits of fossil fuels and clean energy sources and, in this regard, to increase investment in the exploration and production of fossil fuels by the leading oil and gas-exporting countries.
“It is also necessary to increase our own production capacities, effectively use the export potential to increase global oil and gas supplies, electricity, ensure the safety and sustainability of energy, and the sustainable use of clean and low-carbon energy sources.
“We call on the countries of the world to jointly create an open, transparent and efficient international energy market, reduce trade barriers, avoid excessive volatility of world prices for commodities in the energy industry, and maintain a healthy, stable and sustainable international energy market.” [My Emphasis]
So, to get the world’s developing nations to further their development and go green, fossils fuels must be utilized, a policy approach that’s completely opposite that of the WEF/EU and Outlaw US Empire. I noted in Putin’s speech, he included Kuwait in the nations wanting SCO membership, which makes all Persian Gulf nations aside from Iraq wanting to join, which I see as highly significant.
That’s all for now. More info will be published to relate, but already there’s a great deal to review.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 16 2022 16:17 utc | 129

Declared 2023 to be the Year of Tourism.
S | Sep 16 2022 16:15 utc | 130

LOL. Become a mercenary and see the world.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 16:21 utc | 130

President Xi made some rather direct remarks today at the SCO summit. He warned of foreign organizations trying to start color revolutions in SCO countries and said that the SCO is fighting evil powers.

Posted by: Nico | Sep 16 2022 16:44 utc | 131

Scorpion @ 119
We do get glimpses. I have personally known two from the families. Remember there are always younger sons and cousins. Not all of them are rich and powerful. Smart ones may get places and positions but often plain dumb ones get power.
Mathis briefly touches the actor James Franco. And his father, producer Doug Franco. I knew Pete di Franco, who was Doug’s brother and James’ uncle. Pete died recently of hunger and exposure, homeless. Doug had died young and when he passed no one in the family would provide for Pete, who was already old enough he had no notion how to start over and attempt to pay his own way.
I showed Pete the Mathis cites to his family and he confirmed most everything Mathis says about Marranos. Pete did not read more than a few words and then volunteered huge amounts of info. All of which tracks.
The other party I knew very well shall remain nameless. She went to Hollywood expecting her uncle to just maybe possibly conceivably get her hooked up with work. She made four movies, the last of which gave her two scenes and two and a half lines. If she had stayed she would have been a leading lady. She went to Hollywood to escape her family. Only to discover absolutely every last person in the business was her family. She had not known. Every person she met began with you are X’s niece so let’s figure out how you and I are related. Six degrees of separation absolutely applies in Hollywood and it is most often closer than that. Alcohol killed her young and it was horror at what her family was that sent her there.
So I have confirmation in personal experience that much of Mathis is real. And lots of it is BS. Regarding Dylan, the story of his early success makes no sense at all unless there is an outside source of power. Mathis’ take on the Zimmerman family is at least plausible though I aam not going to believe or vouch for much.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 16 2022 17:30 utc | 132

Bloomberg reports:
Pimco Extends Russia Debt Wager With More Than $1.4 Billion Bid

Pacific Investment Management Co. bought more than $1.4 billion of Russian government bonds as part of an auction to settle credit derivatives trades, essentially extending the investment giant’s wager on the nation’s debt, according to people familiar with the matter.

The move suggests that investors are betting Russian bonds will be worth more in the future and possibly even repaid. Russia’s default is unusual because the government has the money to pay investors, but is blocked from doing so by international sanctions for its invasion of Ukraine.
After brokers’ buy and sell orders were offset, there was a net demand to purchase $500 million of bonds.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-16/pimco-extends-russia-debt-wager-with-more-than-1-4-billion-bid?srnd=markets-vp

Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2022 17:52 utc | 133

To c1ue at Sep 16 2022 16:01 utc:
we must be talking past each other because I do not understand your reply.
I don’t expect replies to any of my comments.
By “my assertion” I assume you mean the following?

“Whether the document is genuine or not and whether this is established or not is completely irrelevant if the goal is to popularize and disseminate suppressed points of view.”

Since the document with its content is already making waves shouldn’t this be considered a fact?
I did not say it was an official document, in fact I said the opposite.
I did not say “the west” was the source, I instead hinted at either the opposite or some third party.
I’ll stop there and ask whether it is my comment you are responding to?

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 16 2022 18:08 utc | 134

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 15:34 utc | 121
Just a side note:
To be honest, Sweden has a huge problem with *cough*migrant*cough*induced*cough*crime*cough. I don’t think it will be fixable, immigrant gangs have earlier threatened to even declare war on society if they (or their benefits) are touched in any way. I know the SD party supposedly would try to fix it and they might be somewhat anti-Nato too. I don’t think this will end up very well, but it also might even increase their support as things start really falling apart.
Will be interesting to see what happens.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2022 18:10 utc | 135

So I have confirmation in personal experience that much of Mathis is real. And lots of it is BS. Regarding Dylan, the story of his early success makes no sense at all unless there is an outside source of power. Mathis’ take on the Zimmerman family is at least plausible though I aam not going to believe or vouch for much.
Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 16 2022 17:30 utc | 134
Thank you for your reply. Very interesting. I read years ago that any family continuously in England for 300 years is related to every other such family. I suspect there are many similar interlinked networks in the world, though I find it hard to believe that most who have such connections are aware of them. That said, many Chinese families have complete family trees going back long before the time of Christ so perhaps there are some in Europe as well, so…
Clearly Dylan got a boost early on but also clearly he is unusually talented. Certainly he was raised up by a Jewish entertainment network which probably took little interest in the original folk musicians who were more quaint than potent but as they gathered a following became worth infiltrating and managing especially as the CIA-led LSD revolution was about to take off in which the entertainment nexus was to play a lead role.
Feels to me like Miles probably got about half right.
It’s a little like the Shakespeare question. I suspect the official identity is indeed incorrect and he was probably a high-born lord who could not be seen to be a common thespian or was too close to the Crown to do so. The Earl of Oxford theory makes a lot of sense to me (they come from the de Vere royal family which is far older than the English royal families). But somebody wrote those plays no matter who that somebody was, not a committee and that’s all that matters. Given how public his life was the notion that somebody else wrote most of Dylan’s stuff, though remotely possible I suppose, is implausible.
Ultimately, we know very little. I have enjoyed many of miles’ pieces over the years visiting once or twice a year, but rarely come away convinced of anything except that, as usual, it is unwise to take things in the public sphere at face value. I am not yet convinced, for example, that the conflict in Ukraine is a real one. Most likely it is, but even so quite possibly the warring parties are in league for a hidden purpose. One never really knows…
Hmm…maybe miles could find links between BoJo, Liz Truss, Charles III, Putin and Biden!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 18:40 utc | 136

Thierry Meysann is writing about the Straussians again. And it is worth reading, which is nmore than can be said for a lot of stuff…
“The EU brought to its knees by the Straussians”
“…In the context of the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Wolfowitz developed a strategy to maintain US hegemony over the entire rest of the world.
“The Defense Planning Guidance should have remained confidential, but the New York Times revealed its main lines and published extracts [6]. Three days later, the Washington Post revealed further details [7]. In the end, the original text was never made public, but a version edited by the Secretary of Defense (and future Vice President), Dick Cheney, was circulated.
“It is known that the original document was based on a series of meetings in which two other people, all three Straussian, participated: Andrew Marshall, the Pentagon’s “thinker” (who was replaced three years after his death by Arthur Cebrowski), Albert Wohlstetter, the thinker of the atomic deterrence strategy, and his son-in-law Richard Perle, the future director of the Defense Policy Board. The Defense Planning Guidance was written by a student of Wohlstetter, Zalmay Khalilzad (future ambassador to the UN).
“The document speaks of a new “world order […] ultimately supported by the United States”, in which the sole superpower would only have temporary alliances, depending on the conflict. The UN and even NATO would be increasingly sidelined. More broadly, the Wolfowitz Doctrine theorizes the need for the United States to block the emergence of any potential competitor to U.S. hegemony, especially “advanced industrial nations” such as Germany and Japan. Particularly targeted is the European Union: “While the United States supports the European integration project, we must be careful to prevent the emergence of a purely European security system that would undermine NATO, and particularly its integrated military command structure. The Europeans will thus be asked to include in the Maastricht Treaty a clause subordinating their defense policy to that of NATO, while the Pentagon report recommends the integration of the new Central and Eastern European states into the European Union, while giving them the benefit of a military agreement with the United States that would protect them against a possible Russian attack [8].
“For thirty years, this document has been patiently implemented…”
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217976.html

Posted by: bevin | Sep 16 2022 19:58 utc | 137

Possibly better to put this here.

CitizenSmith@70
What it confirms is that arrangements for the Royal Funeral are made by the government (HMG). The idea that Charles makes these decisions is a joke.
Do people actually think that the ruling class in the UK, including the vastly wealthy City and the powerful Establishment depend upon the occupant of the throne to do their thinking and decision making for them?
Believing in fairies would make more sense.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 16 2022 16:28 utc | 105

b, the last time I took Bevin to task for telling his repeated lies about the Windsors, you decided to ban me for being off-topic, but not him for introducing the material in the first place.
He is telling lies again. So what am I to do?

Julian Glover
Fri 14 Jun 2002 08.43 EDT
The government has attempted to put an end to the spin row over the Queen Mother’s lying-in-state by releasing a 29-page dossier containing details of its dealings with Black Rod, the official responsible for organising the ceremony.
In a statement released this morning the prime minister also says that newspapers “continue to publish false accounts of what happened during that period” adding that “I have absolute confidence in the integrity of the civil servants involved in these”.
Downing Street claims that today’s evidence shows that although a No 10 official did call Black Rod, her questions about the prime minister’s role were guided by a 1994 note which suggested that the prime minister ought to be present when the coffin arrived at Westminster Hall for the lying in state.
Black Rod did not agree and Downing Street says it did not persist in its request.

Downing Street hopes that by releasing details of its involvement in planning of the funeral the public and the media will realise that there was no attempt by the prime minister to increase his public role.
However No 10 has left Black Rod to decide whether or not to release the memo he submitted to the press complaints commission and said to outline his concerns over the prime minister’s behaviour.
Yesterday the journalist at the centre of the row, Peter Oborne, described the memo as “dynamite” and opposition politicians have called for it to be put in the public domain.
Officials say their notes show that although the office’s initial discussion with Black Rod was based on the assumption that the prime minister would play a high-profile role but that when it became clear that he would not there was no attempt to change the situation.

https://archive.ph/i3WEL#selection-1059.0-1155.268
(The Guardian)

Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 16 2022 21:01 utc | 138

John Cleary @140–
I wondered when you’d weigh-in on QE2’s demise. If you’d rather keep your remarks to me private, use VK’s messenger.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 16 2022 21:22 utc | 139

Just for completeness:

Black Rod is an officer of the English Order of the Garter, and is usually appointed Knight Bachelor if not already knighted. Their deputy is the Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod.[4]
Order of the Garter
….
Appointments are at the sovereign’s sole discretion

Both from wikipedia.
Now the sovereign is Charles. So the appointment of Black Rod is at Charles’ sole discretion.

CitizenSmith@70
What it confirms is that arrangements for the Royal Funeral are made by the government (HMG). The idea that Charles makes these decisions is a joke.

So who is the joker, bevin?

Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 16 2022 21:23 utc | 140

I am not yet convinced, for example, that the conflict in Ukraine is a real one. Most likely it is, but even so quite possibly the warring parties are in league for a hidden purpose. One never really knows…
Hmm…maybe miles could find links between BoJo, Liz Truss, Charles III, Putin and Biden!
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 18:40 utc | 138
what would it take to convince you this is a real conflict. NATO and the US have been planning it for years, they instigated a coup in order to effect that, Russia has been warning there would be a war if Ukraine and NATO crossed a red line, they crossed that line, thousands have been killed, the Ukrainians are firing on a nuclear plant.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 16 2022 21:25 utc | 141

Hello Karl. Hope you are well.
I got banned, that’s why!
I WILL drop you a line in a day or two.

Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 16 2022 21:28 utc | 142

what would it take to convince you this is a real conflict.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 16 2022 21:25 utc | 143
Generally, my comment expressed cynicism viz anything reported in the public domain. I don’t take anything at face value and the more widely reported it is, the less I trust that the narrative being told is truthful. Nine times out of ten this ends up being correct.
More specifically regarding the SMO, it would help if all sides were not striving for the same end, which is the collapse of the West. If all sides are striving for the same end and using the SMO as cover, then in what way can they truly be regarded as antagonists? Am not trying to make an argument necessarily, just sayin’…
Thanks to those above who posted the Samarkand text extracts. Looks promising. It’s also extremely idealistic. Such things rarely end well despite the best of intentions…

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 21:52 utc | 143

To try and distill all the SCO-related articles published today by Global Times would be a waste of my time and MoA bandwidth since just clicking the link and reading them would be far easier and productive. In the article recapping Xi’s speeches, I’d like to highlight the SCO’s emphasis on countering terrorism. IMO, this is used as a euphemism as the Outlaw US Empire/NATO are the world’s primary sponsors of terrorism which is used to destabilize nations and provide the basis for NATO’s Color Revolutions. I should further note that the first Neoliberal Era use of the terrorism/Color Revolution combo was in Chile to undermine one of the initial attempts at taking a political-economic path differing from the Washington Consensus (previous post-WW2 coups were of the “traditional” Imperialist mode) and became the template for future acts of terrorism, particularly the asset stripping aspect that we see again in Ukraine.
Rhetorically, SCO officials say it isn’t aimed at any one nation or bloc, but the reality beneath the rhetoric tells a different story. Xi’s warning against future Color Revolutions and need for SCO prevention is a case in point. Related is yesterday’s Global Times editorial, particularly the last two paragraphs that let it be known that the failed attempt to create a new economic order of the 1970s will not be repeated and provides the main reason why:
Such a choice made by China and Russia has made peace and cooperation a powerful force of inertia that has global significance, particularly today. Those uneasy or even fearful about this should reflect on and ask themselves, rather than spending their energy and thoughts on smearing others. The international community can clearly see that the US in recent years has strengthened the Five Eyes alliance, peddled Quad, pieced together AUKUS, and tried to create an ‘Indo-Pacific version of NATO.’ All these are the most destructive force in the international system with the UN at the core. The outbreak of the Russia-Ukraine conflict is fundamentally the consequence of the failure of the Western military and political bloc in handling equal relations with a regional power properly.
“Under such circumstances, imagine that if the international community does not have another powerful enough force to really intervene, balance, hedge, and even reverse the situation from the direction of maintaining world peace and stability and promoting multilateral cooperation. The future of this world may well be tragic – a complete resolution of the Russia-Ukraine conflict is nowhere in sight, and potential crises elsewhere will be detonated. This is something that many countries, including China, do not want to see and are trying to avoid. From a certain level, this is the significance of the meeting between the heads of state of China and Russia. As President Xi pointed out, China will work with Russia to fulfill their responsibilities as major countries and play a leading role in injecting stability into a world of change and disorder.” [My Emphasis]
So, take 60-90 minutes away from Ukraine and read about something more important. Oh, and here’s the transcript of today’s speech by Xi.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 16 2022 21:56 utc | 144

Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 16 2022 21:28 utc | 144
Is it your contention that the Crown is ‘the power behind the throne?’ I gather you posted stuff years ago which is now gone but apart from the statute you mentioned about Q Victoria and treason and hinting this is why Camilla is being elevated without explaining why exactly, and now the Black Rod controversy determining who organizes the Royal Funeral operation, I cannot grok what point you are making. Maybe I missed an earlier comment…
I often disagree with bevin about perspectives and issues but generally I believe he is correct that the Crown has little executive power in British governance which is firmly held within Parliament but also in fact managed by the City and the British equivalent of Deep State. Are you saying the Crown runs that Deep State? Or what are you saying apart from inuendo?

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 21:58 utc | 145

John Cleary @144–
Wow! I take a short vacation and good people get zapped. Good to know you’re still kicking, John. I look forward to your note!

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 16 2022 21:59 utc | 146

Scorpion,
We used to have an expression in the early years of the Apple Macintosh. WYSIWYG.
What You See Is What You Get.
That is true of the United Kingdom.
You have watched for, what is it, eight days now?
Everybody, just everybody grovelling before the Windsors.
No dissent allowed.
Now, the Treason Felony Act. I’ll try to keep it simple.
Where a law makes reference to the effect on a specific person, that person must exist if that law is to take effect.
If that person does not exist, then there can be no effect on that person. Ergo, the law cannot take effect.
With me so far? Good.
Now, the Treason Felony Act makes specific reference to …The Queen.
Where a law makes reference to the effect on The Queen, that person must exist if that law is to take effect.
If The Queen does not exist, then there can be no effect on that person. Ergo, the law cannot take effect.
When Queen Elizabeth died, a vacancy arose. There was no The Queen.
Charles wants those powers implicit in the Treason Felony Act.
So he tries to shoehorn his mistress into that vacancy.
Charles becomes king not by statute or parliament, but by God.
And the instrument of God is the Anglican Church.
In 1936 we were told Wallis Simpson could not become The Queen because God (the Anglican Church) does not recognise her divorce and right to remarry.
in 2022 we are told Camilla Parker-Bowles can become The Queen because God (the Anglican Church) has changed his mind.

Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 16 2022 22:44 utc | 147

Today’s Strategic Culture Foundation editorial based on the SCO Summit provides a Big Picture overview of the where we are, where we’re going sort. The writer provides the following paragraph which I’d like to deconstruct:
“Indeed, one can go further and state that the U.S. and its Western partners are creating a world of unrelenting conflict, insecurity and regression. This is because Washington pursues the hegemonic ambition of a unipolar world dominated by the United States where the interests of America and its Western allies are the sole prerogative and priority.” [My Emphasis]
Let’s look specifically the bolded text–“the interests of America and its Western allies”–IMO is incorrect and misleading. The “interests” being served by Outlaw US Empire policy are not nations or polities, they are private individuals and select groups, including corporate governing boards, not their workers. Indeed, no common folk are represented at all for they are mined for their resources–Plundered–via a modern, financialized form of enclosure: Debt Peonage.
What the editorial and others missed observing is how the Class War is being taken up by the Multipolar World in its struggle with the Neoliberal Parasites, the latter really don’t belong to any nation aside from their residence and passport. They have No nations interest at heart; they are all out for themselves, although they act collectively at times to facilitate their actions. Regardless their nationality or ethnicity, they are Mankind’s enemies, and don’t care how many get killed to advance their interests.
IMO, it’s paramount to keep the above in mind as we analyze events as the year draws to a close.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 16 2022 22:49 utc | 148

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 21:52 utc | 145
they aren’t striving for the same end. the US effectively runs the west and is part of the west. Russia regards the US as it’s main antagonist, rightly so, and is hoping to peel European countries off after the US imposed sanctions. Russia is not hostile to Europe per se, it is hostile to the US run criminal gang NATO. Russia would be ecstatic at a US that followed an isolationist policy, and would like to resume sanction free trade with Europe.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 16 2022 22:56 utc | 149

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 16 2022 16:06 utc | 127
no shit!! i get sick of fighting attempts by Microsoft to link all my devices. I don’t freaking want to link all my devices.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 16 2022 23:03 utc | 150

Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 16 2022 22:44 utc | 149
Thanks for your reply.
First you should understand that although I think there are certain virtues in monarchies which other systems lack I am not a huge fan of the Windsors or the British Monarchy although I have been surprised by how moved I feel if I tune into what’s going on in England. I live in Mexico and left London in 1974. I have not been watching much but have spent about 20 minutes a day following events, listening to the short speeches and last night watching GB News coverage of the queue phenomenon. People want to be part of history. They feel something special. I honor such feelings and regard them as part of the phenomenon of monarchy which right now also involves QE II’s and Charles III persons as Queen and King.
As to your statute, I wonder if the word Queen is so specific. Surely it should include any monarch? Is there something specific in the statute indicating it is only applicable when the monarch is female? Sounds very strange to me because the Queen is not a normal person under law but the Crown, the Head of State. Perhaps your interpretation makes sense but I would have to see more.
The main issue is how much and what type of power do they wield. I don’t have a clear read on it but assume they have very little overt power and quite a bit of covert power. I also assume they are a cover for the City types who really own and run the country, using the Royals’ popularity with the people to shield them from scrutiny. If that popularity goes, they will be chucked.
But the interesting thing – at least for me – is the way people respond to royalty and thus also the monarchical system and thus also those playing those parts. On the one hand it’s all theatre, but on the other hand there is some power to it. Perhaps because of human cognitive and emotional structure and the nature of social organization principles. In any case, it goes deep. It is not well understood by modern scientists, psychologists, political theorists and so forth. But the response of the people clearly demonstrates there is something there whether you can explain it or not. That is the part that interests me much more than the characters and family dramas of the individuals on display. I don’t ever follow any of that stuff, nor did I read about Diana’s death and suchlike. I went to the same pre-prep school as Charles (Hill House) so identified with him a little when young, and liked his advocacy for better architecture and organic farming, but apart from that….
That said, during this mourning period and given the scale and depth of the response, I think it’s just basic good manners to treat them and the monarchy with decency and respect as clearly so many millions of subjects do and as indeed I am finding myself doing too. There is plenty of time for heavy criticism. But since you keep popping up with this stuff I am curious what your pov is. And again, thanks for your previous reply.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 23:05 utc | 151

fyi
another good one by the editorial staff at Strategic Culture
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2022/09/16/sco-summit-offers-vision-of-hope-amid-us-led-insanity-for-war/
SCO Summit Offers Vision of Hope Amid U.S.-Led Insanity for War
“….Cuba stands out perhaps at the most egregious case, under the hammer of sanctions for over six decades for no other reason than it has a socialist government. Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Syria, Nicaragua, and many more, are assaulted with economic sanctions simply for not complying with Washington’s writ for hegemony. All of this is completely illegal and in total violation of the UN Charter and international law. Yet the United States has the audacity to label others as “rogue”, “pariah” and “terror state”, when the fact is Washington is the world’s foremost criminal state…..
….The White House this week also warned China to “not do business with Russia”. It said that China would become “isolated” if it did.
Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin can but only smile at the ludicrous Americans. The SCO summit is testimony that Russia and China are far from isolated. They are embracing nations that represent the majority of humankind. It is the power-crazy American rulers who are becoming isolated in their appalling death wish for the planet….”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 16 2022 23:26 utc | 152

“For thirty years, this document has been patiently implemented…”
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217976.html
Posted by: bevin | Sep 16 2022 19:58 utc | 139
Thank you for bringing this latest by Thierry to our attention. He publishes infrequently so I often forget to check.
I’m a little miffed with this Straussian business though because it pushes the notion that the US, aka America, is bent on being a hegemon. True, but it’s really the Straussians who are pulling the strings and they are not doing so as ‘Straussians’ but as some sort of political network of mainly Jewish nature using the population and polity of what is called ‘the US’ or ‘America’ as a source for enhancing their own agenda which really has nothing of benefit to offer a single citizen in that country. That insidious – if not actually seditious – aspect is papered over with overly polite language. IMO.
We see the same thing with descriptions of the Russian revolution which I freely admit to not knowing about in depth but I know enough to know that a very high percentage (like 80%) of all the original revolutionaries, committees and killing groups were Jewish even though most histories today like to paper it over with words like Menchevists and Bolshevists and suchlike.
Although a lot of silly stuff may be written about them, nevertheless more often than not they get too much of a pass because of the tendency of too many to hurl nasty epithets at those pointing them out. But they are often behind nasty business. Including all those Nazi groups in Ukraine, for example, and no doubt much of the black soil land purchases most likely. And the relentless push for European nations and the US to destroy themselves over a country that has nothing to do with them and which they have deliberately turned into a source of world wide conflict and economic decline. They should not get a pass for such things all the time.
But they do.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 23:28 utc | 153

I live in Mexico and left London in 1974.

That explains a great deal!
You see everything changed after you left.
I’ll try to give a synopsis. You will remember the “Secondary Banking Crisis” built up during the years of the Barber Boom?
Well that required legislation to fix all of the scandals unearthed by the recession. Still, no probs. Ted Heath was at the helm and could be trusted to follow a smooth course.
But then the Socialists cheated. They got into power on the back of the Miners Strike led by Joe Gormley.
And the radical socialists would get to draft the laws to be introduced in the wake of the Secondary Banking Crisis.
Disaster looms. It’s Us or Them.
Suddenly, out of the blue, the champion of the socialists quits – at the age of sixty.
He is replaced by an older man, James Callaghan.
The Callaghan team introduce the new rules and regulations.
Importantly, they exempt certain named persons from the rules. Guess who?
The Callaghan family prospers. Callaghan becomes “Farmer Jim”. His daughter, Margaret Jay, goes to Washington as the Ambassador’s wife. She ends up in the House of Lords in her own right.
Every Labour prime minister since Wilson has fucked us, the people, up the arse.
While smiling.
The majority people are cowed dogs.

Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 17 2022 0:02 utc | 154

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 23:28 utc | 155
the US has been bent on being a hegemon since it started out with the Manifest Destiny and Monroe Doctrine bullshit. Was Monroe jewish? Along the way it stole half of Mexico, stole the land of the natives in the US, stole the Phillipines, stole Hawaii, and inserted itself into 2 world wars to dominate the rest of the world. much of this occurred before the wave of immigration in the 20th century that included some jews.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 17 2022 0:33 utc | 155

Scorpion
For most of American history Jews couldn’t join golf clubs or attend colleges or live in well to do neighbourhoods.
The temporary importance of Jews in Russian socialist movements is obviously attributable to a Tsarist society in which they had relatively high levels of education (and very limited career opportunities), marginal social status, distance from official positions and professions all of which give rise to the existence of individuals with sympathy for the underdog and good reasons for wanting revolutionary change.
After a few years of Soviet rule the Jewish minority ceased to be an important part of the Communist party. Many were killed in the purges which wiped out most of the Old Bolsheviks (and Old Mensheviks too).
(Did you live in Chelsea Square, as a child, Scorpion?)

Posted by: bevin | Sep 17 2022 1:36 utc | 156

Below is a quote from a ZH posting that many of us here at the bar saw earlier

Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told a crowd in Illinois this week that he is preparing to run for president during the 2024 elections.
“We’ve got a team in Iowa, a team in New Hampshire and South Carolina. And that’s not random. We are doing the things one would do to get ready,” Pompeo told 1,100 people during a Chicago event on Tuesday, according to a Politico reporter.
“Unlike others, if I go down an escalator, no one will notice,” Pompeo joked, referring to former President Donald Trump’s announcement in 2015 that he was running.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 17 2022 2:05 utc | 157

much of this occurred before the wave of immigration in the 20th century that included some jews.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 17 2022 0:33 utc | 157
You ignore the role of the major Jewish banks in the 1800s era which were behind little disturbances like the Civil War, various assassinated Presidents and so on. As it says in the intro to the article I linked above:
“Introduction
Much of the so-called “history” we were taught in our schools has not been so accurate as we might have believed. In particular, the book publishers, with cunning aforethought, have managed to eliminate much of the most important information necessary to give us a real understanding of the world in which we live. After the elimination of perhaps 50% of the crucial facts, much of the remainder that has been presented to us is factually false. Even worse, they have managed to construct a disconnected historical narrative consisting of sound bytes that appear unrelated and thus prevent us from being able to connect the necessary dots to see the overall picture as it really is (or has been). To make matters worse, our teachers, having been educated in this same system, are themselves ignorant of most of the crucial facts. In this essay, I will attempt to present some major sections of an important segment of our history so the relations can be made and the picture discerned as a whole.”

And specifically about America:
“Andrew Jackson was no sooner elected President than he was the target of an assassination attempt by a gunman named Richard Lawrence, who confessed to the police that that he had been “in touch with the powers in Europe”. Despite the obvious danger to his life, Jackson refused to renew the bank’s charter and the US national debt went to zero for the first and last time in the nation’s history. But in retaliation, the Bank’s president Nicholas Biddle, an agent for the Paris-based Jacob Rothschild, immediately cut off all funding to the US government and plunged the country into a deep depression. Simultaneously, the same bankers plunged the US into a war with Mexico, greatly exacerbating the economic hardship and once again offering the US president an opportunity to clarify his thinking.[18]”
So before the wave of (mainly Ashkenazi from Eastern Europe, i.e. non-semitic) Jews in the early 20th century there were powerful well-connected European banking and political Jews involved in historically important developments, few of them benign whose descendants later fomented communism to overthrow the established order all over the West.
Civil War? Way before their influence according to you. But read this:
“The bankers’ incitement of wars of clarification in America included the US civil war which, contrary to popular belief, was not about slavery but about political and financial control of the US. There is more than ample evidence that the severe divisions within the country which led to the American civil war were deliberately inflicted upon the US by these same bankers, who were fulfilling their warning delivered more than ten years earlier that disobedience would be punished by the crafting and imposition of a civil war. Their plan, which succeeded admirably, was “to exploit the question of slavery and thus to dig an abyss between the two parts of the Republic”, thereby throwing the new nation into a bitter civil war with the intent of ending with two weak and easily-controlled republics instead of one strong one.
Germany’s Chancellor Otto Von Bismarck claimed the European bankers were responsible for the American Civil War, stating “The division of the United States was decided by the high financial powers of Europe”, and van Helsing wrote “The reasons leading to this civil war were almost completely due to the Rothschild agents”, one of whom was George Bickly who persuaded the Confederate States of the advantages of secession from the Union, thereby precipitating the American civil war. All American history texts attribute the civil war to slavery disputes, constituting one of the greatest lies and historical revisions existing in any nation.
In any case, the bankers did succeed in their incitement to violence, and the Civil War was unleashed on the US, with the London bankers backing the Union and the French bankers backing the South. Everyone made a fortune and by 1861 the US was $100 million in debt. At this time, Abraham Lincoln became the new President and snubbed the bankers by issuing US government currency popularly known as Greenbacks to pay Union Army bills without incurring debt to the Rothschilds.
At the time, the Rothschild-controlled Times of London wrote: “If that mischievous policy, which had its origins in the North American Republic, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and the wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed, or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.””

Now maybe you don’t trust this article. Fair enough. But I’ve read this stuff over the years from many sources and am confident that it’s generally accurate.
I don’t have a bee in my bonnet about Jews btw, but I don’t like how history has been written to paper over their contributions past and present. That ain’t right. And the result is that we have extremely skewed and inaccurate notions about important aspects of our cultures and countries which are playing out even now with how we view the conflict in Ukraine between parties called US, UK, NATO, Germany, Nazi battalions, Russia, Ukraine and so forth. Every single word is viewed through a distorted lens because of our deliberately obfuscated history. That’s why it’s an important issue and the canard epithet about one being an antisemite for raising it is used successfully to shut down awareness. Works nearly every time.
You know who is in power by who gets to impose taboos. The world is hurtling towards a major depression and perhaps world war in no small part because of such taboos which most of us are too frightened to bust out of.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 2:53 utc | 158

@Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 2:53 utc | 160
No Worries! In the multipolar world the races will be easier to discriminate.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 17 2022 3:04 utc | 159

(Did you live in Chelsea Square, as a child, Scorpion?)
Posted by: bevin | Sep 17 2022 1:36 utc | 158
Well, I think you minimize their presence and influence, old chap.
Wilton Place. Now probably Arabian Embassy Row. I walked from there to Hill House in the mornings through the last of the pea soupers around 1960. It was a different time. My stepfather hosted ‘All Our Yesterdays’ on the BBC; perhaps you watched it? Once a week. Short. I don’t think it was all that entertaining but I was too young to watch it. Indeed, the only television I watched back then was Dickens series I believe once a week on the weekends. I remember a very good David Copperfield and also a Christmas Carol production; the character of Scrooge impressed me deeply. My stepfather’s room-mate at Oxford was Thai Royalty, brother to the King. He visited London one year and I went with them in a Rolls Royce to see My Fair Lady with Julie Andrews and Rex Harrison and we sat in the Royal Box and I escorted his daughter Princess Nerissa on my arm at aged seven all dressed up with patent leather shiny shoes and a velvet jacket and felt very grand. A night to remember. Like I said, a different time…
I know about the golf clubs. One grandfather of mine was the eldest son of a Belarusian rabbi. He emigrated to the States around 1917 after refusing to go to Yeshiva. In America he never admitted to being Jewish and made a fortune in the States (probably with Jewish contacts in Scotland), and joined many golf clubs and only after he died did his wife, daughter and grandchildren learn his personal history (because relatives we had never heard of including Chagal’s lover (!) wanted to know if they were in his will!). I believe he was wrong to hide his background but don’t know his reasons for leaving Belarus and refusing to become a Rabbi and respect his walking away from that identity. Other grandparents were WASP descendants of Presidents 2 & 4, American blue bloods but decidedly middle class through and through. So I’m a mutt with no particular class – other than middle – or national identity.
None of that really has anything to do with my opinions about things. I stumbled into revisionist history in the 80’s with the first computers. I don’t know how or why. I like wondering what is behind things, perhaps, because I sense what is being presented is only the facade. My mother graduated from RADA, London. Cut her career short to become a wife and mother. Her husband’s father ran the Lyric Theater Hammersmith in the 20’s. So the family knows a lot about facades and masks perhaps. I like finding the person beneath them perhaps. I don’t have a racist or a classist bone in my body, though I personally love different races, ethnicities, languages and cultures and prefer societies with dynamic, playful and clear class systems, especially any with high culture elements which are increasingly rare in the West which has been taken over by materialism, commercialism, transactionalism and way too many isms including socialism, communism, capitalism and now scientism. Too many isms!!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 3:16 utc | 160

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 2:53 utc | 160
“You know who is in power by who gets to impose taboos. The world is hurtling towards a major depression and perhaps world war in no small part because of such taboos which most of us are too frightened to bust out of.”
Egalitarianism I think is the biggest one, specifically equality of the sexes.

Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 3:19 utc | 161

Egalitarianism I think is the biggest one, specifically equality of the sexes.
Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 3:19 utc | 163
There’s something about -isms that makes them all wrong somehow!
Extremism: they pick one side or thrust thereby excluding others and thereby lose the Middle Way and once that is lost harmony is lost, balance is lost, sanity is lost, good society is lost.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 3:29 utc | 162

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 20:06 utc | 133
Many thanks… sometimes in the mid 90s I met a honest German age 50+, we were talking about social politic – Jews, he said anyone under 50 would never understands why Hitler came to power…

Posted by: JC | Sep 17 2022 3:32 utc | 163

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 3:29 utc | 164
“There’s something about -isms that makes them all wrong somehow!
Extremism: they pick one side or thrust thereby excluding others and thereby lose the Middle Way and once that is lost harmony is lost, balance is lost, sanity is lost, good society is lost.”
Interesting point. I suppose the counter argument is we need shaking up every so often (too much “Middle Way” leads to stagnation), but that, of course, can be very unpleasant to live through (or not live through).

Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 3:36 utc | 164

Every Labour prime minister since Wilson has fucked us, the people, up the arse.
While smiling.
The majority people are cowed dogs.
Posted by: John Cleary | Sep 17 2022 0:02 utc | 156
Thank you for your reply. The earlier part was way too arcane. I was mainly a schoolboy in England though I do remember Wilson and his pipe (and recently read that he got on famously with the Queen). But I did understand your last part.
Until you get rid of Bad Money run by credit cartels you won’t have a country (same as in US) and everything is bad including class relations because the Money Power rules Britannia and it’s fundamentally wrong. Ironically, that’s why royalty originally exists: to ensure that none of the other classes takes over – farmers, laborers, merchants, entertainers, professionals, financiers, military, religious. So you need One above them all to keep them in line if they start to exert influence beyond their natural, healthy scope. We have let the financial-merchant-commercial sector take over society to the detriment of all. This is a direct result of creating a castrated ‘constitutional’ monarchy. There is no-one to reign the Masters of Money in. (And the monarchies were taken out because they succumbed to the money power first because the Church did too because too many effing wars because greed because, because, because. So clearly the monarchies weren’t up to snuff and so got snuffed. Snuff happens! Still, that doesn’t mean that what replaced them was better. Certainly what is unfolding now isn’t better, that’s for sure…)
No matter, they are about to collapse their houses on all of us. So we have a chance to Build Back Better. Without them. Will we take that chance? Not if we are all cowed dogs like you say; but maybe hardship will toughen us up a little and we can find our inner wolf again!!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 3:40 utc | 165

Posted by: JC | Sep 17 2022 3:32 utc | 165
Correction posted in wrong thread… sorrie should be in Ukraine – Dissecting Some War Propaganda News Items

Posted by: JC | Sep 17 2022 3:42 utc | 166

(too much “Middle Way” leads to stagnation)
Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 3:36 utc | 166
Well, that’s the perennial challenge. Otherwise you see-saw from one extreme to the other each one being just a different type of bad.
I guess maintaining a good Middle Way is essentially the same as maintaining a good family generation after generation. It can be done. It’s the Art of Actually Being Happy which involves balancing sobriety with regular celebration, aka How to Handle Joy and Ordinariness so it doesn’t become deadly.
But again, you have to ensure that the Elites don’t get entrenched and start oppressing or exploiting. And without a Just King, that is hard to do it seems because they always end up insinuating themselves into key areas and then taking over.
And those tendencies doubtless arise in any society of any race and epoch; the trick is to create a polity that doesn’t allow them to dominate. The Founding Fathers of the US consciously tried to ensure this and clearly failed. Noble attempt. Time for a Second Republic?
Happiness…. strange notion these days, eh?

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 4:00 utc | 167

Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen had a baby.
His name was Jeff Buckley. His early death only cemented his legend, and now we can only guess at what a full corpus of his prime work could have been through the tasty scraps he left behind.
It is not all bad, though. In the horror genre, you often don’t get to see the full presence of what haunts the film until later to build tension.
Only we get no release in this case.
What did Kierkegaard say about the poet?
“Please keep torturing yourself for our enjoyment.”

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 17 2022 4:02 utc | 168

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 4:00 utc | 169
“Happiness…. strange notion these days, eh?”
Thanks Scorpion for your thoughtful responses.
There is no unambiguous metric for happiness of which I’m aware. Having said that I would not be surprised to find that our happiness level (whatever that is) has remained more or less constant for thousands of years.
Happiness does not aid survival, but the pursuit of happiness does. We’ve therefore evolved to be miserable, regardless of the circumstances we find ourselves in. It’s now a state of mind that is as deeply routed as an instinct. Horrible of course, but it makes us a very tough species.

Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 4:33 utc | 169

There is no unambiguous metric for happiness of which I’m aware.
Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 4:33 utc | 171
An acquaintance of mine, Ron Coleman, helped the Kingdom of Bhutan develop a Gross National Happiness Index.
https://www.bhutanstudies.org.bt/gross-national-happiness-and-development/
So somebody has actually worked on it, unlikely as it sounds!
(Thanks for kind words. Ditto.)

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 4:45 utc | 170

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 2:53 utc | 160
which article Scorpion? the one that Bevin linked?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 17 2022 5:44 utc | 172

nope it’s not in the article that Bevin linked to, Scorpion. would you like to provide source for this article claiming that jews steered the US into Civil War after trying to assassinate Jackson? or influenced the US to invade Mexico. how about all the other invasions? how about the war on the native americans? jews?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 17 2022 5:49 utc | 173

dunno about wiki, but Lawrence sounds like he was insane, e.g.
“Around this time,[vague] Lawrence abruptly quit his house painting job. When questioned by his sister and brother-in-law with whom he was living, Lawrence claimed that he did not need to work because the U.S. government owed him a large sum of money. Lawrence had come to believe that he was owed money because he was Richard III of England and owned two English estates. Lawrence became convinced that he was not receiving the money because of President Andrew Jackson’s opposition to the Second Bank of the United States. He felt that if Jackson were no longer in office, Vice President Martin Van Buren would establish a national bank and allow Congress to pay him the money for his English estate claims”
so you’re basically going by something attributed to this guy Lawrence, who thought he was Richard III , by some article by some author. who was it?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 17 2022 5:55 utc | 174

No wonder the US has to go outsourcing
everything including war.
US Army’s Recruiting Crisis Worsens As Test Scores Drop, Disqualifications Rates Surge

Posted by: jpc | Sep 17 2022 5:56 utc | 175

Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 3:36 utc | 166
so nationalism is wrong. and so is globalism, and tribalism, and individualism.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 17 2022 5:57 utc | 176

Antonym | Sep 17 2022 5:10 utc | 173
Goosey goosey gander! Its different when the FBI does it.
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/international-offices

Crime and terror have a global reach. And so do we.
For more than eight decades, the FBI has stationed special agents and other personnel overseas. We help protect Americans back home by building relationships with principal law enforcement, intelligence, and security services around the globe. Now, at a time when virtually all major FBI investigations have a significant international nexus, these partnerships have never been more crucial.
Our 63 legal attaché offices—commonly known as legats—and 15 smaller sub-offices are located in key cities around the globe and provide coverage for more than 180 countries, territories, and islands. About 250 special agents and support personnel are stationed in FBI legats worldwide.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 17 2022 6:42 utc | 177

Martin Sonneborn to Ursula:
“When YOU started your service here, I thought you were just incompetent and a bit criminal, meanwhile I know that you are also impressively free of morals…”
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/25210

Posted by: YK | Sep 17 2022 7:17 utc | 178

@ RTX | 166
Healthy nationalism is the need of the decade. Hitler tried to smear nationalism by warping it into nati-egoism, while dragging socialism down too. Nations can be healthy entities, like a biological biome / niche that nurtures one or a few tolerant cultures. An intolerant culture should stay within its borders.
We are about a century too soon for healthy globalism, as MNCs and other monoliths have to be tackled first. When most nations have discovered their souls above their egos the Earth will be ready.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 17 2022 7:48 utc | 179

@ too scents | 179
Yes, the FBI too BUT publicly, with a website. And not to chase US citizens that dish their president by threatening their family members at home – mafia style. Not a fan of the Comeys, Muellers, Strzoks & other black spots though!
Noticed how the EU is most gullible, as usual?

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 17 2022 7:58 utc | 180

We are about a century too soon for healthy globalism, as MNCs and other monoliths have to be tackled first. When most nations have discovered their souls above their egos the Earth will be ready.
Posted by: Antonym | Sep 17 2022 7:48 utc | 181
yes agreed and many nations are ready and willing to cooperate now.

Posted by: K | Sep 17 2022 8:04 utc | 181

Christoforou’s clown world today: van der Crazy talking about the “Russian military taking chips from dishwashers”:
“Now, we could say that’s an anecdote,” he said on the company’s earnings call Wednesday. “But to be honest, it happens everywhere — it is 15-, 20-, 25-year-old semiconductor technology that is now being used everywhere.”
Note above article is from April 2022.
So. Much. Winning.
Posted by: c1ue | Sep 16 2022 15:58 utc | 125
Ancient news. NASA is a very keen user of obsolete unobtanium electronics. To maintain some of the EX CIA/USSAF flying piles of obsolete aircraft. All of which were extremely vulnerable to Soviet-made “Ground-to-Air missiles”. This included the long-range “Air to Air” variety as fitted to the MIG-25/31. Ah, the bad old days. When two fully armed MIG-31’s intercepted a very hot(air friction is a bitch at Mach 2.8) SR71A over international airspace. Long before it could cross the border without any pre-approved flight plans. Or, the wonders of the advanced Soviet/RF OTH radar.
Due to the extreme generosity from both the dumb&dumber USSAF and RAF sending manned target drones. As sent to spy on Russia during the cold war. The then Soviet aviation missile forces obtained excellent target practice scores.
The Soviets had so many free parts obtained from the piles of U2 junk lying around. They were able to construct a far more reliable twin-engined version “Mystic-B”. With one minor very important jet engine ignition upgrade. That was not fitted as standard on the single jet engine as fitted to the U2. Cost-cutting for profit Yankee accountants strikes again!
Then again! Have you ever wondered how NASA maintained the ancient decrepit aged obsolete USSA Space Shuttle?
Given that much of the Shuttles core electronics parts was unobtanium from any USSA makers after 1990. Hint one of the Space shuttle’s reserve backup computers. Was in fact an old well known RPN keystroke programmable HP-41CV calculator. One that was declared obsolete in 1990. lol
How soon we forget about how the USSAF maintains the ancient decrepit B-52s! By regular visits to the junkyard.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 17 2022 8:48 utc | 182

Hi pretzelattack, Synonym,
It was Scorpion who made the statement “There’s something about -isms that makes them all wrong somehow!”, not me. I don’t think he meant it quite literally though.
I didn’t say anything positive or negative about nationalism. I was talking about egalitarianism which in the West has all the hallmarks of a religion.
Perhaps I’m still not understanding, in which case apologies all round.

Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 8:56 utc | 183

*Antonym. Sorry!

Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 8:57 utc | 184

@ pretzelattack (151)

Russia is not hostile to Europe per se, it is hostile to the US run criminal gang NATO. Russia would be ecstatic at a US that followed an isolationist policy, and would like to resume sanction free trade with Europe.

I hope that is the case, because fellow ‘Republicofscotland’ shared on another thread a PressTV article
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/ukraine-dissecting-some-war-propaganda-news-items.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02a2eed66a94200d#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02a2eed66a94200d
that talks about NordStream II being replaced. The thought of Russia severing all ties with Europe – a wet dream of US and UK neocons – is really worrying.

Posted by: joey_n | Sep 17 2022 8:57 utc | 185

nope it’s not in the article that Bevin linked to, Scorpion. would you like to provide source for this article claiming that jews steered the US into Civil War after trying to assassinate Jackson? or influenced the US to invade Mexico. how about all the other invasions? how about the war on the native americans? jews?
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 17 2022 5:49 utc | 175
https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/jews-and-revolutions/
Saying a group did some things doesn’t mean they did every thing. But the initial point in the introductory paragraph is key: history and even right now current events are skewed to hide the movers and shakers from view and accountability. We are in a destructive robber baron regime wherein though many intuit this vaguely they never really identify the actual Barons doing the damage. Instead they take up (mental) arms against various causes, races and classes which the endless narrative spinners supply.
Fwliw I don’t trust ‘the Jews are behind it all’ view though certainly a class of them figure prominently in key sectors which is why, again and again, they have been purged. It’s an ugly thing but it has to be faced at some point. More importantly, and again, the skewing of history to hide the Money Power’s pernicious influence is responsible for far too much harm to far too many.
Because of this successful suppression of truth our cultures are infected with the pandemic of ignorance and wrong views and are degrading steadily damaging our peoples life journeys and enabling evil, like what we have collectively wrought in Ukraine, to flourish in our name as most of us dutifully cheer on.
We must do better!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 12:22 utc | 186

Healthy nationalism is the need of the decade. Hitler tried to smear nationalism by warping it into nati-egoism, while dragging socialism down too. Nations can be healthy entities, like a biological biome / niche that nurtures one or a few tolerant cultures. An intolerant culture should stay within its borders.
We are about a century too soon for healthy globalism, as MNCs and other monoliths have to be tackled first. When most nations have discovered their souls above their egos the Earth will be ready.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 17 2022 7:48 utc | 181
Well said, though 1930s Hitler period was pretty good, at least by most contemporary accounts.
Nationalism is a label but doesn’t have to be an ideology rather a state – in both senses of the word. The sense of solidarity felt right now in Britain among so many is nationalism without the ism for example.
The Robber Barons behind the Throne do everything they can to spread self-hatred, demoralization and division lest the people unite and throw them out on their privileged arses!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 12:36 utc | 187

Perhaps I’m still not understanding, in which case apologies all round.
Posted by: RTX | Sep 17 2022 8:56 utc | 185
Well, I’m just nattering at a bar… No expert or authority (obviously).
I think when any given ism is followed as an Idea, which is abstract concept, it becomes extreme. Ideas dwell in the Head Realm. Reality dwells more in the Realm of Heart. The uniforms and panoply which are part of Royal display appeal to the Heart more than the Head. Head doesn’t stand in line overnight in the cold for no apparent gain. It’s all empty, all display, but then so are green grass, streams, trees and mountains, the sky, clouds and stars. Reality is vibrantly unreal, splendidly dressed up!
Head trips are often used to trick people into following with their hearts and therein perhaps is the deception-based source of all deviltry.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 12:50 utc | 188

Head trips are often used to trick people into following with their hearts and therein perhaps is the deception-based source of all deviltry.
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 12:50 utc | 190
Following with your heart is a good thing, Scorpion. It’s not head tricks that lead there. People have minds; they should use them wisely, and most do. Standing with your mind in your heart is the right thing to do. Some even make a physical attempt to do that during meditation. It’s when you center your mind in your brain that you get into difficulty. If you put it in your heart and keep it there, you can’t go wrong. That’s where spirit comes in, which has content in breath, because that is what spirit means. Breath is the lungs surrounding and warming the heart.
Unfortunately for some, it’s not what they want to do, because in the heart there is conscience and those other things like courage, and love. Even virtue. The brain doesn’t deal with those things so it’s a more comfortable place for some folk – success and power are brain things. But so is madness.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 17 2022 13:55 utc | 189

@Sunny Runny Burger #136
I directly addressed your theory: that the document is published to popularize.
And I noted in at least 2 cases, the “popularization” does not help the effort and is much more likely to hurt.
In the last case – the real world case – it does not matter what the public thinks.
In other words: your theory is no good.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 17 2022 14:00 utc | 190

@unimperator #137
Yes, I am aware of the roots of the Sweden Democrat’s success.
But getting into office doesn’t equate to ongoing success; we will see if they focus on delivering what they promised, or allow themselves to get distracted/take bribes/talk to undercover operatives pretending to be Russians…

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 17 2022 14:02 utc | 191

@Bemildred #127
IoT is not entirely a scam.
There are plenty of legit reasons to use microcontrollers (NOT computers) in many devices. A simple example is a timing belt or a timing chain in a car. What these devices do is sync valves and cam shafts – but they function as a basically completely repetitive set of actions. While there are many other functions in cars and other devices that are repetitive – a microcontroller allows a greater range and complexity of repetitive tasks as well as the ability to modify activity if desired.
But of course, complete junk use of IoT is making light bulbs visible on the internet and so forth.
My view is that IoT is used more and more because of crapification: it is a lot more effort and expense to make a mechanical control system than a digital one – digital ones are much less able to hold up over time. And that’s an extra bonus since it means the device has to be replaced sooner instead of being used 30 years or more…

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 17 2022 14:13 utc | 192

@Antonym #181
You said

When most nations have discovered their souls above their egos the Earth will be ready.

As Acton said:

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.

The EU bureaucrats are demonstrating, right now, just how crap an idea world government (i.e. world bureaucracy) is.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 17 2022 14:18 utc | 193

My view is that IoT is used more and more because of crapification: it is a lot more effort and expense to make a mechanical control system than a digital one – digital ones are much less able to hold up over time. And that’s an extra bonus since it means the device has to be replaced sooner instead of being used 30 years or more…
Posted by: c1ue | Sep 17 2022 14:13 utc | 194
At bottom it is the crapification of everything. When marketing rules everything, that is what you get. Even in defense, even in aeroplanes. You can have some limits on all this “profit seeking” or you wind up with lots of crap.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 17 2022 14:38 utc | 194

I’m a little miffed with this Straussian business though because it pushes the notion that the US, aka America, is bent on being a hegemon. True, but it’s really the Straussians who are pulling the strings…
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 16 2022 23:28 utc | 155
My personal experience was that in college days Leo Strauss was revered in some circles as an interpreter of Plato’s Republic. I would say his interpretation was a western, somewhat latinized one, leaving out the complexities of dialogue and concentrating on the rigor of analysis of what was being said, never mind to whom. In other words, he took the word ‘philosophy’ to mean a formal synthesis as Aristotle did, rather than its root meaning, ‘love of wisdom’.
I believe Plato did try to tutor statesmen, but as with Alcibiades, he was unsuccessful. Unlike his student Aristotle, who tutored Alexander the Great. (I don’t take that as a strike against Plato).
I don’t follow the ins and outs of where that went from there, but it’s why I preach reading Plato as fully as possible student to teacher. That’s how he wrote; that’s how he ought to be enjoyed. The dialogues as plays, like Shakespeare, which is not how Strauss read Plato. He’s always linked with Aristotle, but they are really very different, somewhat in the way eastern and western Christianity are.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 17 2022 14:54 utc | 195

Unfortunately for some, it’s not what they want to do, because in the heart there is conscience and those other things like courage, and love. Even virtue. The brain doesn’t deal with those things so it’s a more comfortable place for some folk – success and power are brain things. But so is madness.
Posted by: juliania | Sep 17 2022 13:55 utc | 191
Whole post lovely.
Small biological niggle: the enteric brain (in the gut) has far more neural activity than the head brain. It took a while to accept this because our current superstition is that the brain does all the thinking.
Qualifier: it still might be that the brain does most of what we experience as thinking and what’s going on down below is something else. But consider this: when you consciously decide to raise your arm to shoulder height, for example, the neural activity – as measured electronically – starts in the gut, not the head.
Furthermore, such activity depends upon ‘alien’ cells in the form of trillions of bacteria who are not directly controlled by our nervous system which is also involved. It’s symbiotic. But without those bacteria – many of which are also part of our so-called immune system – the neural activity vital in each and every second of our existence would not perform. The Asians have claimed that the seat of Mind is in the gut for millenia but for some time we have put it in the head.
During the Napoleonic wars I believe it was a captured Italian officer who, before he and his men were to face a firing squad, made the following offer: ‘instead of shooting me, cut off my head with a clean sword slice and after that any of my men lined up here whom I can touch you will let live.’ (Perhaps he got this idea from watching the performances of beheaded hens and roosters.) The deal was made. They cut off his head and sure enough he walked down the line touching each and every one of his men before finally collapsing.
The first heart transplant recipient in the US had visions of someone attacking him with a knife. Finally they had him work with a police artist to make a drawing. The killer of the person whose heart he had received was apprehended for her murder. In Chinese medicine they say long-term memory resides in the heart (emotions in the stomach-spleen nexus, short-term in the kidneys). It would seem – at least in terms of the heart – that they have it right.
But like I said, just a little biological niggle.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 15:01 utc | 196

By the above @ 197 I meant ‘Plato is always linked with Aristotle…’ Sorry if that was confusing.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 17 2022 15:06 utc | 197

Putin’s Presser at SCO conference yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm5icaLbUMA

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 17:00 utc | 198

Given b’s latest deletes of comments by tiroler (falco and chessplayer) from his most recent thread, Ukraine-Dissecting -Addendum, I thought I’d start my weekend here in Montréal with taking a quick browse of the news from Tyrol. I hear it’s nice there this time of year (and so confirms the National Geographic with its just released list of top activities for Italy’s adventure capital
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/travel/2022/09/five-activities-to-relax-in-trentino-and-south-tyrol-italys-adventure-capital )
The Washington Post, twice in August, published features on hiking in the spectacular Dolomites. Aug. 11 and Aug. 26
Eurojust and Europol just arrested five people and seized 2 planes in a migrant smuggling scheme. “… dismantled a criminal network involved in migrant smuggling, document fraud and money laundering”
“The migrants, mainly Iraqi and Iranian of Kurdish origin, boarded private aircrafts in Türkiye carrying false diplomatic passports. However, the official destinations of the trips (usually the Caribbean) were never reached. During the stopovers at different European airports, including in Austria, France and Germany, the migrants left the plane, disposed of their false passports and systematically applied for asylum. The suspects charged up to EUR 20 000 per smuggled person.”
https://www.eurojust.europa.eu/news/migrant-smugglers-using-private-aircrafts-grounded-belgium-and-italy
When I searched ‘Tyrol news’, that link was one that showed up under the News tab.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Sep 17 2022 17:13 utc | 199

@ Scorpion | Sep 17 2022 15:01 utc | 198 with the bit about gut doing some thinking
Below is the text from one of my web pages about neuromodulation that you may find educational

OUR STUPID BRAIN
Our Stupid Brain quotes from “Technical Foundations of Neurofeedback” by Thomas Collura.
“There is a tendency in Western society to think of human actions in terms of “voluntary”, in the sense that we first create a desire to do something and then instruct our brain to take care of the details. The reality is that this is somewhat backwards. As we have seen in our earlier example of the movement-related potential, the brain activity that leads to a voluntary movement precedes the movement by up to 1 1/2 seconds. That means that the very idea of the desire to perform the movement comes after the brain activity. As would seem necessary, the very desire to perform the action is a brain event, and hence is the result of brain processes. This challenges the idea that the conscious mind is “in charge” of the brain, and puts the cart on quite the other side of the horse……
The driving force for thought and action consists in the dynamic instability of the brain and its proclivity to always seek novelty, fulfillment, stimulation, safety, power, and other goals that it perceives.“
My addition to these thoughts is that this information is support for the argument that our glial/astrocytes hold or instantiate the goals listed above in a distributed manner

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 17 2022 18:11 utc | 200