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September 8, 2022
Open (NOT Ukraine) Thread 2022-147

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anti-spiegel asks: “Robert Habeck has no hesitation in proudly presenting his blatant incompetence and ignorance on television. Are the Russians to blame, as was the case with Baerbock?”
https://tinyurl.com/yc5reym8

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 9 2022 0:53 utc | 101

Stonebird #91

Now that Morrison is deposed – whatever happened to him?

Hillsong Church global president perhaps? clapping happily away… see https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/08/15/hillsong-whistleblower-natalie-moses-scandal/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 9 2022 0:56 utc | 102

So the black chariot is out to bear the Queen of the englanders to her resting place. Charles is to be King, Liz Truss is PM.
A trifecta of doom is upon them and the whole of ‘europe’ is insane.
Good news week everyone, so celebrate.
I shall take an arak or two to cheer in the change.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 9 2022 1:23 utc | 103

Posted by: chu teh | Sep 8 2022 20:02 utc | 83
Thanks a million… that’s the same website… reading from smartphone but unable to remember. The civil war and foreign occupation harden my feeling against (especially) the Jap as I get older…….. My ancestor home was Hubei, Huanggang. Wuhan being the Capital city and Huanggang 2nd largest… Dad’s spend much of his time in Nanjing, Chongqing and Shanghai. We have no surviving members in China… Last heard… mid 50’s mom was crying, dad forbid her sending dried food stuff to my maternal uncle…. that’s the last we heard of him… millions staved to death… not because of Mao or the commie civil war but fucking Americans, UK, France and others “White Skinned” (No ill feelings please…)
I wish to live to see the Jap, UK and France punish for their war crimes and occupations…Did you know Sakhalin Island and much of Russia Far East, Sinking (Xingjiang) and Okinawa really part of China under Manchuria and Mongol rules.. I started school in (KMT) Chinese and remember the maps in Chinese show it..

Posted by: JC | Sep 9 2022 1:44 utc | 104

@ Scorpion # 80

“Unz says that covid was a US bioweapon attack against China which boomeranged. I am not convinced since it could just as easily be a Chinese attack on the West using their New Year’s travel volume as the international launching pad knowing they could crack dowon like no other country could.”

I’m with Unz over this. Try checking your search engine for ‘Mysterious respiratory disease during the summer of 2019 in Fairfax county, Va., then search for Ft. Detrick’s forced closure in August of 2019, for pathogens escaping their waste systems. Check out the mysterious vaping disease occurring during the autumn of 2019, blamed on vitamin e in the vaping substances. After that you can look up where our army trained their troops for athletic olympic like games for military personnel, which were being held in Wuhan China during November of 2019. Our soldiers stayed in a hotel across the street from the live market. The Chinese were patsies. (again)
Somebody oughta write a book about this?
I caught the disease during January 2020. Forty miles s. of the fort and ten miles from the first outbreaks and deaths. The disease was a two week bad respiratory cold for me, with a cough that lasted another month, but then long covid, which i’m only now beginning to recover from.
Love your comments on the meta physical btw, keep them comin’.

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Sep 9 2022 4:13 utc | 105

I wrote an article, “A Solution to The Outlaw US Empire’s Inability to Recruit Military Peons: Why Not Try Peace?” rebutting Robert Bridge’s SCF essay which begins and ends thusly:
“Will U.S. Collapse Because Americans ‘Too Fat and Criminal’ to Defend Country?”, saying:
“’How the U.S. military will find the man power to fill its ranks, not to mention operate the increasingly complex military technology, is a herculean problem that promises to haunt army brass for many years, while presenting the most dangerous security risk to the U.S. in many years.’”
It will at least give readers a break from reading Ukraine/SMO battle porn and provide a different diversion.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 9 2022 5:01 utc | 106

@ Karlof1
Thanks for your article.
Thanks for that


Reducing the ability of the Outlaw US Empire to Plunder is a good thing and harms no nation’s security except for those people with twisted ideas about what security constitutes.

We are not unpatriotic, looking for any part of Nato to be defeated. That was an “idea” for some posters…
But is a Outlaw Empire, my Homeland?
From which “Got Given Law” is plundering the Weak and the Poor a security issue for humanity?
What can we do?
We don’t have to be hardliners keyboard warriors.
Yesterday, a young politician was questioned on French MSM TV.

What can we do to stop this war and rising prices on energy and food?
You can begin by stop voting Macron

Probably the opposite choice [vote LePen] is not the One SizeVote Fit All solution.
But what we can is by all means necessary, anytime, anywhere
Reduce the ability of the Empire to Plunder.
It’s even not revolutionary “defeating”, the collapse of the Empire will not be a defeat for humanity.


« Mais Dieu se rit des prières qu’on lui fait pour détourner les malheurs publics quand on ne s’oppose pas à ce qui se fait pour les attirer. Que dis-je? Quand on l’approuve et qu’on y souscrit. »
Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
in Histoire des variations des églises protestantes

Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 9 2022 5:46 utc | 107

JC | Sep 9 2022 1:44 utc | 104
You are most welcome. Thank yuo for sharing a bit of your youth experiences abd views from the 1950s. Those were my teenage years and the hate propaganda and mis-education was overwhelming coming on the back of outright slavery in the US.
My college years in the South {terrible mistake] just further mis-education via suppression of conflicting views and vital data. I was surprised/bewildered to discover that Prince George County [Va.] public schools were closed rather than begin to integrate the races…in my little circle, no one gave a thought or seemed bothered by it! Later I was blessed to have 2 Asian wives who helped me come to my own senses and deflect the propagandized/twisted info and spot where vital info was missing/omitted.
re those islands east of the mainland…i did not know their history. I will have a look Regards.

Posted by: chu teh | Sep 9 2022 5:54 utc | 108

Uncle Tungsten [100]
Actually German voters like to live at expense if others and indulge in fantasy which they turn into ideology
USSR sold raw materials too cheaply for trinkets from West and Russia continued to act like a developing country instead of manufacturing more than Mil-Spec production

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 9 2022 5:59 utc | 109

My #107
Sorry for typing
Must be
“Revolutionary Defaitism
Bossuet quote usually known as
“God laughs at men who deplore the effects of which they cherish the causes.”

Posted by: La Bastille | Sep 9 2022 6:18 utc | 110

Europe

Actor Daniel Craig drank from one its “Picardie” tumblers, with a scorpion on his wrist, when playing James Bond in “Skyfall.”
With energy costs burning through the firm’s cash reserves and viability, Duralex President José-Luis Llacuna is taking radical but, he hopes, business-saving action: He’s stopping production. The thunderous machines that turn incandescent blobs of molten glass into hundreds of thousands of tableware items each day will fall silent for a few months on Nov. 1.
Duralex will join a growing array of European firms that have reduced and halted production because they’re hemorrhaging money on the energy needed to keep running. news.yahoo.com/shaken-stirred-ukraine-war-hits-062022506.html

Russia
“Whatever Atlanticists may think of it, the last word for the moment might belong to Vitaly Markelov, from the board of directors of Gazprom: Russia is ready for winter. There will be warmth and light everywhere.” https://thecradle.co/Article/Columns/15396
Pepe’s latest at the cradle is good. The multi-polar world rapidly taking shape.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 9 2022 7:03 utc | 111

One of the things I was taught was that, in the end, all products, no matter how sophisticated, depend upon the primary sector: something a farmer harvests, something a fisher gets out of the sea, a miner gets out of the ground. Without that humble beginning, the complex product cannot be made. It seems the German government is unaware of this.
The impression one gets is that these politicians believe they are the good guys, and in the movies the good guys always win.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 9 2022 7:06 utc | 112

Decree on Nuclear weapons
Kim Jong-un officially declared the DPRK a nuclear power, signing a law according to which Pyongyang will no longer negotiate on denuclearization and will never give up nuclear weapons.
“If the control system of the state nuclear forces is under threat due to an enemy attack, a nuclear strike aimed at destroying enemy forces, including the source of provocation and the command post, is carried out automatically and immediately according to a predetermined plan.
The DPRK reserves the right to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the enemy in the event that Pyongyang considers a threat from him to the state or its leader Kim Jong-un inevitable.”
As I have been writing for many years, the DPRK will never give up its nuclear baton. Now it is officially confirmed. In today’s carnivorous world, only nuclear weapons can deter a potential aggressor with the threat of unacceptable damage.
Thus, the DPRK formalizes itself as an actual member of the nuclear club, to which it was not officially invited, but in which it has been in possession of nuclear weapons and their means of delivery for a long time.
-CC

Posted by: Decree Nuclear | Sep 9 2022 7:14 utc | 113

the Greens in Germany aren’t the only “pigheaded ideological nuts” (Bernhard’s phrase from a recent post of his here at MoA).
Let’s make sure that everyone in northern Europe freezes this winter.
check this out
with knuckleheads like Greenpeace, and the Greens in germany, tens of thousands will freeze this winter, and they will all be from the lower classes/working class/poor, you can bet on that
https://gcaptain.com/greenpeace-hits-russian-lng-tanker-at-swedish-port/
Greenpeace Stops Russian LNG Tanker At Swedish Port
“Today, Greenpeace blocked the LNG tanker Coral Energy from unloading Russian natural gas at a Finnish state-owned terminal, Gasum, in Nynashamn on Sweden’s east coast.
The environmental campaigning network called on the Swedish government to immediately stop the import of Russian LNG.
Activists from Greenpeace Nordic stopped the ship Coral Energy from unloading its cargo of Russian fossil gas at an LNG terminal in Nynäshamn, south of Stockholm, Sweden. Climbers have occupied the cranes that unload the gas from the ship. Greenpeace sailing vessel SY Witness and activists in kayaks worked to prevent the ship from docking…..”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 9 2022 7:51 utc | 114

First and foremost…. my incomplete, unfinished searched may not be 100% accurate… Came across the Chinese names (Liu-Chiu Islands) somewhere in YT. Basically, the Manchuria sphere of influence stretch.. across China 3 NE provinces, include Russia Far East and “Sakhalin Island”… I saw the Chinese MAPS in my geography txt books when I started school just after the war (my own eyes)… Dad and the Chinese primary school principle were KMT… dad was a KMT officer in China… You’ll need to get Carl Zha or someone to confirm… Carl Zha is a Chinese walking encyclopedia…
Sakhalin Island
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin
Liuqiu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liuqiu_Island
Liu-chiu Islands
https://www.getamap.net/maps/japan/okinawa/_liuchiuislands/
Extra…
https://xpatmatt.com/photos/xiao-liuchiu-taiwan-island-photos/

Posted by: JC | Sep 9 2022 8:33 utc | 115

September 9, 2022: “$450m package to maintain Pakistan’s F-16s” : https://www.dawn.com/news/1709178/450m-package-to-maintain-pakistans-f-16s
Don’t believe Indians, check Pakistani comments below it….

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 9 2022 8:52 utc | 116

@ michaelj72 | 114
Agree 100%, these Swedish Greenpeas are total nuckleheads here. Nice and warm in their upper middle class houses through the winter – probably have their own forest land for fire wood, the Greta types.
They are asking for a reality check and will get it with the year – painful as it may be.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 9 2022 8:58 utc | 117

@Passerby | Sep 9 2022 7:06 utc | 112

You misunderstand. Products come from the market.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 9 2022 9:09 utc | 118

Have you all noticed the Western “news” narrative about China after the Nancy Pulaski “visit” to Taiwan? Well, I have. The narrative is that China is going to collapse. You-Tube, Facebook and all the rest have been pumping this narrative relentlessly. It’s calming down some now. I suppose that there will be SOMETHING else to keep the anti-China narrative alive.
Keep your eyes open.
In the meantime, here’s my video on the ridiculous narrative about China’s ultimate collapse.

Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Sep 9 2022 10:30 utc | 119

Fun fact… the Queen (b. 1926) was literally older than sliced bread
(c. 1928).

Posted by: DoesItReallyMater | Sep 9 2022 13:07 utc | 120

Next full moon is tomorrow night (Sat.) very ominous tension fills the air. California is burning once again. JCPOA is DOA. What will the EU do to prevent itself from breaking apart? Or more likely, what won’t it do? How afar will it go to prevent a member from leaving? What strings will it be forced to pull to keep membership in line?
The so-called collective west is less than 15% of world’s population. How much longer do you suppose the remaining 85+% of humanity will continue to allow for the unequal distribution of wealth whereby this minority consumes the lion’s share of the earth’s resources?
There has taken place an irrevocable step away from the dollar. India is not alone in showing independence of action with regard to global trade and finance. What can the west do about that? Non-western nations are finding out just how fragile and unwise trust and investment in western economy has become.
Finally, the U.S. had best be careful about how much of its limited focus it spends abroad when large segments of its own population are armed to the teeth and believe the government is out to get them.
And summer is not over. Peace!

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Sep 9 2022 13:36 utc | 121

Putting aside that shes well beyond the expected lifespan… Theres a funny thing going around that Lizz Truss did it.
Posted by: Bob | Sep 8 2022 16:07 utc | 36
Most interesting. Back in the real world.
Who knew that the German house of Windsor(UK royalty). Lives far longer than you can imagine.
Royal Family outlive the general population by 26 per cent – for every 100-year-old royal the average person could expect to live to an age of 74 years.
The Queen, 95, is the third Windsor to surpass their 95th birthday – Prince Philip (99) and the Queen Mother (101) are the others while the Queen’s maternal grandparents died in their late 80s.
Only 0.15 per cent of the UK population are older than the Queen (approximately 100,000 people) and for around 85 per cent of the UK population she’s the only Head of State they have ever known. Around six million people alive today should have memories of the coronation, whether as direct spectators or having seen it broadcast live on television or in cinemas.
Truth is stranger than fiction. lol

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 9 2022 13:51 utc | 122

Interesting times.
I find it amusing that a number of people today. Are living in abject fear of change and denial. Pick a target, The very one that has been telling the world. The good life of the post-WW2 baby boomers is coming to an end. Where waste is good and resource theft is better. Somewhat sooner than later. We live in a finite world with limitations on resources.
Peak oil has come and gone. Factory farming is its own worst enemy.
The tide has turned. Lest we forget even King Canute for all his power and mite. Failed to halt the rising tide.
The times are a changing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxvVk-r9ut8

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 9 2022 14:27 utc | 123

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 8 2022 16:35 utc | 49
Just to be clear – what I wrote applies to hard sciences. Academic success or failure in certain areas of the Humanities/Social Sciences could well depend on ones ideological bent, as you suggest.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 8 2022 17:49 utc | 71

The hard sciences aren’t exempt from ideological influence.
Once the federal government has publicly taken a position on a scientific question, that viewpoint shapes government funding of science, peer review journals, and ultimately of the ability of university faculty to honestly report their findings. Richard Lindzen explains how climate science has been corrupted by these and other influences.
In domains that pertain to public health, these influences are magnified by the pharmaceutical industry’s decades-long grip on the U. S. Food and Drug Administration and on medical journals.

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 9 2022 15:03 utc | 124

La Bastille @107–
Thanks for your review! The audience seems to think war porn more important, unfortunately.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 9 2022 15:05 utc | 125

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 9 2022 15:03 utc | 124

The phrase “ultimately of the ability” should have read “ultimately the ability”. I had inadvertently clicked “Post” instead of “Preview”.

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 9 2022 15:08 utc | 126

Posted by: JC | Sep 9 2022 8:33 utc | 115 … continue incomplete researched..
I had states more than once my interest in MoA… are Russia Russia, China China….
Umpteen websites after Japan returned Taiwan to PRC… Japanese includes soldiers changed to Chinese names… two persons… Tsai Ing-wen and Lee Teng-hui ancestors were speculated Japanese heritage… Lee Teng-hui had served as vice president to President Chiang Ching-kuo, son of Chiang Kai-shek. Tsai Ing-wen ancestors were Japanese. Former Taiwan President Lee Teng-Hui visited a controversial Japanese war shrine provoking criticism from the mainland, the AP reported. Lee visited the Yasakuni shrine in Tokyo, where his elder brother, who was killed while in the Japanese navy during World War II, has his name listed among the war dead. The visit could strain….. Chinese in Taiwan were recruited to fight their own brothers in China… or Nanjing massacre…
Encyclopedia Britannica “Taiwan as part of the Japanese empire”
https://www.britannica.com/place/Taiwan/Taiwan-as-part-of-the-Japanese-empire
https://thediplomat.com/2020/12/has-taiwan-always-been-part-of-china/
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202206/1267610.shtml
Whoever reading this…. please research either confirmed my believes or just conspiracy theories … a trusted source is Carl Zha…Thanks….

Posted by: JC | Sep 9 2022 17:53 utc | 127

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 9 2022 15:03 utc | 124
Lindzen is a geriatric oil shill, hasn’t produced any meaningful research in years, and tries to cover up his failure by blaming other scientists. it’s pathetic. the only countries where crap like this is actually taken seriously is countries where the oil industry has spent the most money on propaganda. every major national scientific academy agrees with the science.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 9 2022 18:01 utc | 128

A tactical nuclear weapon drop on this concentration of ukronazi troops in this bulge should do the trick and send a stern message too!

Posted by: Deplorable Cro magno | Sep 9 2022 18:52 utc | 129

September 11 is the 2022 United Voting Day in Russia. Starting in 2020, some regions have started experimenting with two-day and even three-day elections. My region, the federal city of Moscow, holds three-day elections this year, from September 9 to September 11. This year we are electing municipal deputies (district deputies). There are 125 districts in Moscow. My district is subdivided into three 30,000-voter electoral areas, each electing 5 deputies in a block voting system (a voter can vote for up to 5 candidates, non-ranked).
My electoral area has 20 candidates: 7 independent, 4 from My District regional public organization (allied with United Russia party), 4 from Communists of Russia party (spoiler party), 2 from New People party, 2 from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and 1 from United Russia party.
Today I have voted for 4 candidates: an obstetrician-gynecologist from a city-owned hospital (female, My District), a teacher from a local school (female, My District), head of local social assistance center (female, My District and United Russia) and a housewife (female, independent).
Thank you for tuning in to my news report from the Evil Totalitarian Country™ of Russia!

Posted by: S | Sep 9 2022 19:13 utc | 130

In domains that pertain to public health, these influences are magnified by the pharmaceutical industry’s decades-long grip on the U. S. Food and Drug Administration and on medical journals.
Posted by: David Levin | Sep 9 2022 15:03 utc | 124
I’m not sure where you got the idea that the pharma industry has any control over what’s published in the biomedical literature. One could argue that you’ve pretty much got it backwards – pharma and biotech typically rely on techniques developed and discoveries made by basic research scientists, who generally receive no remuneration should those discoveries eventually lead to profitable medical therapies or diagnostics.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 9 2022 19:30 utc | 131

Somebody oughta write a book about this?
I caught the disease during January 2020. Forty miles s. of the fort and ten miles from the first outbreaks and deaths. The disease was a two week bad respiratory cold for me, with a cough that lasted another month, but then long covid, which i’m only now beginning to recover from.
Love your comments on the meta physical btw, keep them comin’.
Posted by: aye, myself & me | Sep 9 2022 4:13 utc | 105
Thanks for kind remarks. I think Unz HAS written a book (on his site he has a book section) but maybe you mean something else?
You cut my prose (which is your right) but where I differ with Unz is that I believe labels like ‘US’ and ‘China’ are too simplistic, rather there was significant international (aka ‘globalist’) cooperation in the biowarfare lab realm. I also wouldn’t be surprised that there had been several experimental releases before the one given great press in 2020. Who knows? But if I’m right that there was a globalist group behind it, then it serves their purpose for the US to be blaming the Chinese and the Chinese to be blaming the US since the Great Reset demands collapse before ‘building back better.’ The collapse needs to be blamed on adversaries, so the Chinese will be blaming the US and the US will be blaming Russia and China and Russia will be blaming US and Europe will be blaming Russia.
That sort of pointing fingers thing makes all the globalists, no matter which country they are based in, happy! Because of course nobody will be blaming their own governments or holding them to account. This is important because they are the ones who will propose the new global polity. They will have a grand conference, perhaps, and all the world’s great leaders, in order to save the world, will make peace and a New World Order will be proclaimed and we will all cry with joy and surrender our property with relief and gratitude and humbly enter the new housing units they will pen us all in!!!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 9 2022 20:42 utc | 132

In domains that pertain to public health, these influences are magnified by the pharmaceutical industry’s decades-long grip on the U. S. Food and Drug Administration and on medical journals.
Posted by: David Levin | Sep 9 2022 15:03 utc | 124

I’m not sure where you got the idea that the pharma industry has any control over what’s published in the biomedical literature. One could argue that you’ve pretty much got it backwards – pharma and biotech typically rely on techniques developed and discoveries made by basic research scientists, who generally receive no remuneration should those discoveries eventually lead to profitable medical therapies or diagnostics.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 9 2022 19:30 utc | 131

I didn’t have in mind journals that publish basic research, but rather those that publish results of using a particular substance for a particular ailment (as in a clinical trial), such as the New England Journal of Medicine. My understanding was that such journals depend on advertising revenue, much of which is from pharmaceutical companies.

Posted by: David Levin | Sep 9 2022 22:58 utc | 133

My understanding was that such journals depend on advertising revenue, much of which is from pharmaceutical companies.
Posted by: David Levin | Sep 9 2022 22:58 utc | 133
I don’t know about that, although it sounds plausible. If you have any references describing such activities I would be curious to have a look at them.
On another note, the medical journal The Lancet not too long ago pulled an article ( “Structural violence in the era of a new pandemic: the case of the Gaza Strip” ) after strong pressure from the zionist lobby. https://electronicintifada.net/content/lancet-censors-gaza-health-letter-after-pro-israel-pressure/31371

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 10 2022 0:27 utc | 134

Good news for the ‘Covid is a hoax’ crowd: the New York Times is with you. For the details check out this article on the FAIR website:
“Four and a half million people.
“That’s how many Chinese people would have died from Covid-19 had its government taken the same approach to the pandemic that the United States has taken, and gotten the same results.
“Instead, China has had 15,000 deaths from Covid—most of these from an outbreak in the spring of 2022 in Hong Kong, which has its own healthcare system.
“Meanwhile, the United States has lost more than a million people to Covid since the pandemic began. Deaths currently continue at the rate of about 450 a day, which would add up to roughly 160,000 a year if present trends continue.
“Clearly China and the United States have very different systems, and what works in one place would not necessarily work in the other. But given the remarkable success that China has had in protecting its population from a deadly and pernicious virus, surely US-based journalists are examining what lessons China has to teach us?
“No, not if you work for the New York Times. There you’ll be writing yet another in a series of articles about how China has had the enormous misfortune of avoiding mass death…”
https://fair.org/home/nyt-scolds-china-for-not-learning-to-live-or-die-with-covid/
Like most stuff at the NY Times the article is full of lies, misrepresentations and juvenile errors.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 10 2022 1:02 utc | 135

Below is a quote from a Wall Street On Parade article (and test of my current commenting capabilities at MoA)

Wall Street On Parade would go a few steps further: Allowing the New York Fed to supervise the megabanks on Wall Street while also being owned by them and regularly bailing them out is the stuff of banana republics. It’s not only dangerous to the financial stability of the United States, it’s insane.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 10 2022 3:12 utc | 136

Chinese Mid-Autumn moon cake festivities and Thanksgiving
Mid-Autumn moon cake festivities 10th -13th September in China a public holiday, elsewhere 10th September. I’ll missed this festivities and the moon cake I still love…
The festivities dating back 3,000 years to the Shang Dynasty. Give thanks to the gods,bumper harvest…. this year is very meaningful.. having defeated Covid-19, droughts, wildfires, flood and anti China, China bashing..
24th November.. Thanksgiving, give thanks to their gods… but unlike The Chinese.. Whitman gives thanks and genocides the Indians.. How many Indians were killed? Millions almost extinct. Whitman blame the Chinese genocide the Uyghurs in Xinjiang strange instead reduce Uyghurs populations, Uyghurs increases. a German Adrian Zen massaged the stories.. millions falls for the shits. Two millions Uyghurs were killed??

Posted by: JC | Sep 10 2022 6:49 utc | 137

It is no suprise that ‘The Lancet’ along with a host of other journals is owned by a corporation called ‘Elsevier’ publishers of scientific journals which even according to elite propagandist wikipedia has been involved in a number of pay to play scandals.
Elsevier in turn is owned by Relx PLC a corporation whose major shareholders also feature several Blackrock iterations since Blackrock are also big on Pfizer investment one cannot help but think WTF?.
Individuals are free to make up their own minds about this. Does Rupert Murdoch’s News Inc have a relationship with Blackrock, is the Blackrock investment in both Lancet & Pfizer a conflict of interest? After decades of observing these corporations and the sociopaths who control them, I know what I reckon and it aint good.
Incrementally but inexorably one corporation, currently named Blackrock but as its notoriety spreads it will likely rename to something like ‘Unicorns and happy, friendly fairies Inc’, is taking a substantial interest in every major corporation on the planet. Even though ordinary investors own 50% or more of these corporations the independence, disunity of investors means that it is institutional investors, often with shareholdings of around 5% who have the biggest say and get offered ‘independent’ directorships.
These guys run such complicated games that it is never swings or roundabouts they get returns off, it is swings and roundabouts.
Until the people of this planet launch a focussed attack on the institutions destroying them and confiscating all their assets, the talk of freedom, much less freedom and liberty is a hollow joke.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 10 2022 8:10 utc | 138

@ Scorpion # 132

“You cut my prose (which is your right) but where I differ with Unz is that I believe labels like ‘US’ and ‘China’ are too simplistic, rather there was significant international (aka ‘globalist’) cooperation in the biowarfare lab realm. I also wouldn’t be surprised that there had been several experimental releases before the one given great press in 2020. Who knows”

First, who are these globalists, or to be less specific, they’re nationalities? Are the WEF folks involved with these ‘globalists’? How exactly did these globalists take control of pentagon activities? Seems to me, from reading here that these globalists are pretty much tied to american hegemony and they’re reach is dwindling to one eighth of the population. These globalist are certainly global, but their power is tied to american might, not the powers of this planet, presently.
Secondly, as for previous ‘experimental releases’ could the 2010 swine flu and the 2015 avian flu in China be candidates? Just like covid 19 their flues were far more deadly than ours? From wikipedia:

“There are many subtypes of avian influenza viruses, but only some strains of five subtypes have been known to infect humans: H5N1, H7N3, H7N7, H7N9, and H9N2.[22] At least one person, an elderly woman in Jiangxi Province, China, died of pneumonia in December 2013 from the H10N8 strain. She was the first human fatality confirmed to be caused by that strain.[23]

Can you produce any hazy evidence, either Russia, or China are involved is the same nefarious activities as america’s military industrial complex, with hundreds and hundreds of bio labs bordering Russia and China, or that either are actively experimenting on victims like the ukronazis? I could be wrong, but i think your globalists are a bit one sided? Kinda doubt they’ll have much say in a multi polar format?

“But if I’m right that there was a globalist group behind it, then it serves their purpose for the US to be blaming the Chinese and the Chinese to be blaming the US since the Great Reset demands collapse before ‘building back better.’ The collapse needs to be blamed on adversaries, so the Chinese will be blaming the US and the US will be blaming Russia and China and Russia will be blaming US and Europe will be blaming Russia.
That sort of pointing fingers thing makes all the globalists, no matter which country they are based in, happy! Because of course nobody will be blaming their own governments or holding them to account. This is important because they are the ones who will propose the new global polity. They will have a grand conference, perhaps, and all the world’s great leaders, in order to save the world, will make peace and a New World Order will be proclaimed and we will all cry with joy and surrender our property with relief and gratitude and humbly enter the new housing units they will pen us all in!!!”

Sure hope this is a mixture of sarcasm and satire, otherwise you’ve missed what’s being wrote here at MoA. I agree we got wannabe globalists, but their powers are globally diminishing due to the west’s collective collapse and the soon to be loss of it’s hegemony. However, the peso should really take off when that occurs.
Altho, as Debisdead @ 138, so eloquently states above our monopolists won’t be so easy to derail. Trying to get rid of them in an oligarch controlled gov’t could be quite a challenge also.

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Sep 10 2022 9:07 utc | 139

Altho, as Debisdead @ 138, so eloquently states above our monopolists won’t be so easy to derail. Trying to get rid of them in an oligarch controlled gov’t could be quite a challenge also.
Posted by: aye, myself & me | Sep 10 2022 9:07 utc | 139
First, I rarely offer evidence for my opinions (!). Am an eclectic reader who has looked into many different things over the years but do not take notes and don’t intend to start. Sorry about that!
As to China: I believe on two occasions Chinese scientists who worked in Western biolabs (one in Canada, one in North Carolina??) were caught trying to smuggle materials out of the country. Maybe they were doing a routine transfer but when they got caught it was called ‘smuggling’ so as not to admit the collusion? In any case, I think there has a been a huge amount of porosity between China and the West in technical fields for a very long time. Fauci’s institutions, for example, were providing funds for the Wuhan lab – and many others. There are linkages there which transcend national security boundaries put it that way. So the labs are not just surrounding China they are also inside China.
It seems to me that there are international elites who operate above and beyond national jurisdictions and who owe no true allegiance to any nation state even if they must be a citizen of one or more, obey the laws and suchlike.
You talk of the American Hegemon. I believe this is slightly inaccurate. America is just as much occupied territory as most other countries in that a hostile elite network has shanghai’d its polity. That hostile elite network is, I suspect, also what I called ‘globalista.’ They owe no allegiance to the US or her citizens.
Some people think this is a Jewish conspiracy or that the old Jewish banking networks are the eminence grise behind the whole thing but I suspect there are far more networks in the mix. Do not know. But most likely the bankster networks and Jewish power players including some in Israel are in the mix. But so may be old European networks. (Interesting how the Medici bank was behind Madoff’s scams, eh?)
America has been hollowed out viz industrial production capacity for decades. This was deliberate (imo) not just due to short-term concerns with quarterly profit-loss statements as so often reported.
Despite Russia being ostensibly arrayed against the US-NATO-West unipolar model as often discussed here, she is working towards a CBDC system as is China, India, Ukraine, UK, EU, Canada and US. Strange. Just like it was strange, imo, that all countries instantly and simultaneously adopted the never-before tried tactic of population lockdowns and most have yet to open back up fully and many are threatening to lock back down soon when the next one comes, which several leaders have warned might be soon (including Biden, who blabs a lot). Maybe this was due to some new medical insight, or maybe there is coordination, globalista coordination? I suspect the latter. Russia gov worked with AstraZeneca on vaccine development and although Putin keeps saying otherwise they are working on a vaccine passport system as are nearly all countries, including social credit, CBDC etc. Coincidence?
So even though there is some sort of war going on now in Ukraine, there are many things which continue internationally which all sides are doing.
The hegemon is a One World System. It is being described as led by the US. I don’t think so. Look at the US: it is being taken down month by month just like Europe. The US has been captured already. Witness the 2020 election fiasco. Witness how the US Intelligence and USG is determined to worsen the living standards of the citizenry, possibly even overthrowing the first Republic whose constitution and rule of law is being increasingly trampled over.
So I personally remain unconvinced that the US is trying to take over the world. I think the world is taking over the US but who or what exactly that ‘world’ is I don’t know.
Russia is pushing a multipolar world comprised of independent sovereign states. Sounds fantastic to me and if the US stands in the way it needs to be prevented from so doing. Fine. But when we say ‘US’ we mean the elites which have captured the US. What do they want? They want US-based hegemony throughout the world coordinating with all other nations in the world?
Confusing. Let me say then to simplify: there is a globalista network that wants to establish a new world order of sorts, a one-world system that is arrayed against a multipolar system of sovereign states. Although the captured US is one of the globalistas’ key power bases, it is not the only one. They are also in Europe, China, elements in Russia, Latin America and so forth. They do not want ‘America’ to take over they want their money system to take over everywhere and perhaps even get rid of old-fashioned nation-state based polities in favor of a new world order in which nation states are more like provinces of one single empire.
Or something like that. It doesn’t really matter what I think and I don’t personally spend much time trying to think through in detail because I don’t have enough hard data. I just don’t think that labels like ‘US’ and ‘China’ are all the meaningful when discussing certain things. Which include what ‘the hegemon’ might be and how covid was developed and spread. There are many things going on that are not contained within individual nation states, put it that way. Wheels within wheels within wheels….
I know this wasn’t a great answer. But them’s the breaks and now it’s time to walk the dog by the river!!!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 10 2022 13:31 utc | 140

Interesting.
History tells us that in all countries where “Greenpeace” exists Along with other non-government-approved organizations. To no one’s surprise, these organizations have been infiltrated by assorted police/anti-spy agents. Who have always deemed these activists to be disruptive agents from a foreign power. Or the chasing of mythical fifth columnists. This has been ongoing since the end of WW2.
Thus the deviation from the usual normal public activities. This would indicate that internal state-sponsored police spies have been activated to weaken and/or disrupt the general public support.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
That which is too good to be true usually is……….

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 10 2022 14:02 utc | 141

At this time particularly, as an apparent frenzy is causing a whole lot of what can only be called pollution to appear…
AT some point one recognizes that if you aren’t familiar with the screen handle being used there is no reason to read the post.
B’s blog has a well established following of intelligent contributors and B’s seeds have served well to guide many of us to information and other sources to study and evaluate for ourselves.
Let the bots be bots and treat them all like trolls: ignore them. Scroll, Scroll, Scroll if you must indulge but going to the Main page and selecting B’s posts or specific commenters contributions seems the most sensible approach. Skip the rest!

Posted by: DoesItReallyMater | Sep 10 2022 17:15 utc | 142

MoA will initiate a user name protocol. Zebra X-ray Charlie.
DoesItReallyMater | Sep 10 2022 17:15 utc | 142

Posted by: Pacifica_Advocote | Sep 10 2022 18:20 utc | 143

The biggest news I seen today.
New sanctions against transportation of Russian Oil. By sea. Starting in few months.
That is a declaration of war. What happened to Japan in WW2

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 10 2022 19:59 utc | 144

@DunGroanin | Sep 10 2022 19:59 utc | 144
A declaration of war against the recipients of said oil. Ie. not Russia but Europe. No surprises there.

Posted by: Lurk | Sep 10 2022 20:28 utc | 145

China has announced where the International Lunar Research Station will likely be located and the probes and their missions to further establish that location:
“When asked why the country looks at the South Pole region for the building of ILRS, Wu Weiren, the chief designer of China’s lunar exploration program, told the Global Times previously that the temperature on the far side of moon can reach -200 C and the near side can mount to 200 C, neither of which is not suitable for long-term human activities.
“The South Pole region is also subject to the polar day night phenomenon, during the polar day, there would be more than 180 days of continuous daylight, which would support long-term work on the moon surface, and which explains why we intend to build the station there, Wu told the Global Times.”
Very exciting happenings outside Russia’s SMO that has too many overly preoccupied.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2022 22:08 utc | 146

Notice to barflies:
I have occasionally posted over a long period of time using my name, “Paul”. Others calling themselves “Paul”have also posted.
I do not think I have any kind of special insight. Thanks to our host, b, and erudite barflies, I have acquired new thought provoking insights. Thank you all concerned.
I hope my posts slightly increased the available pool of knowledge and allowed others decide for themselves.
As b observed, on recent threads there have been a number of purported ‘Pauls’.
b, reasonably, called for this confusion to end.
In the interests of keeping a tidy bar and to avoid confusion, I decided to post as Paul GV. That, in the interest of clarity and non specific geographic location, stands for Paul “Global Village”.

Posted by: Paul GV | Sep 10 2022 22:11 utc | 147

This editorial deals with the Indo-Pacific Economic Framework (IPEF), which is seen by some as a replacement for the failed TPP. IMO, few have heard about the IPEF, and it might not be worth the time to get to know it better based on the logic offered by the writer and actual world conditions that are quickly changing. As the editorial points-out, there’s no Congressional support for this Obama-era hangover; it’s only being advanced by Biden’s executive order.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2022 22:20 utc | 148

Paul GV @147–
Thanks for your FYI. Given the current level of divisiveness driven by bits and trolls, it’s refreshing to read such a civil announcement. Thanks again!

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2022 22:22 utc | 149

@Debsisdead | Sep 10 2022 8:10 utc | 138
Blackrock = Rockefeller.
The function of corporations, ie. non-natural legal entities, is to shield the real ownership from public scrutiny.
Common people would revolt if they knew that a very limited group of individuals holds ownership to most of the world. But once this ownership is obfuscated behind a intricate facade of elaborate abstractions, most ordinary folks get confused and their primary emotional response is to look away in confusion. Cue teevee entertainment..

Posted by: Lurk | Sep 10 2022 22:40 utc | 150

karlof1 | Sep 10 2022 22:08 utc | 146
Thanks for the link. Always nice to hear from a civilization that has a future to look forward to.

“there will be rovers, landers and leapers working”

Somehow that should be set to music as a Christmas carol or a folk tale or something 😉
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And congrats Paul GV for the choice of name and the choice to rename. I second karlof1, that was a refreshing comment.
Exciting too, for those of us who may never have been to a christening 😉

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 10 2022 23:38 utc | 151

@ Scorpion #140
Thank you for your reply, but i believe we’ll have to agree to disagree. I can’t lump China and Russia with the turning wheels in the west. One thing i’ve learned from coming to MoA is what Karlof1 and several others continues to harp on regarding both Russia and China. They have leaders trying to help their citizens. Thru the speeches Karlof1 continually posts show the leaders in both Russia and China are sane! On the other hand, the west’s leadership, including america’s vassals’ are literally insane, every one of them! What i see is R&C trying to change this world for all humanity, not just a chosen few. Imo these globalists are only amongst the chosen few.
America’s economic system has always been based on democracy, rather than authoritarian. Imo both Russia and China are going the authoritarian route, which is keeping oligarchs out of state business. For me that speaks volumes about R&C’s intentions, pro humanity for everyone. America’s system has always been a rules base order where only a few benefit.
As for the Wuhan bio lab, it’s built to far superior specs than Ft. Detrict’s, which has been closed on numerous occasions, for lapses in security and other issues, but always reopened for national security, which trumps any other concern. Again, imo, bio labs are necessary for the study of pathogens, furthermore the military games in Wuhan were likely planned years in advance. Giving our military the advantage of using that Wuhan lab as plausible deniability and finger pointing after they’d infected other participants and the general population around their proximity in Wuhan.
However, one area we can agree on are the nefarious activities occurring on Plum island, just east of Long island and south of Lyme Conn. For sure lyme disease came from there, but i also believe rocky mountain spotted fever and the lonestar tic came from that lab too. The latter has a range from east Texas thru all the southern and eastern coastal states all the way to Maine. Several years ago i was apparently bit by a lonestar tic, because their secretion causes a change in our biology causing the victim to experience an extreme allergy to red meat, causing stomach cramps and the worst case of hives i’ve ever had. Fortunately, (or unfortunately depending on one’s point of view) for most the ‘allergy’ dissipates after a year, or two.

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Sep 10 2022 23:59 utc | 152

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2022 22:22 utc | 149
Thanks for your comment.
I would like to share an observation by a notorious old Dutch sea captain:
I asked him “why it was that good people are attracted by boats?”
He told me that because boats are a confined space the assholes are quickly sorted out and put ashore at the next port. The boat sorts out the people, not the other way around.
I am sure you would be welcome on our next international voyage.

Posted by: Paul GV | Sep 11 2022 0:17 utc | 153

@ Karlof1 # 146 & 148
I too want to thank you for all you do in keeping the barflies here informed of the important news outside the host’s very informative articles. You both keep me coming here. Tho there are several others too!

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Sep 11 2022 0:17 utc | 154

I.ndeed, thanks karlof1. At first I was thinking earth’s South Pole, but hey that’s exciting stuff! And for Scorpion, who wonders who’s in control – nakedcapitalism has Michael Hudson’s latest interview – his next book is about to come out, focused on Greece and Rome not doing debt forgiveness, so democracy segues into oligarchy (just as Plato says it will). I never believed it when I was reading the Dialogues – couldn’t happen, says I early ’60s – how wrong I was! FDR’s rules were still in place then.
Here’s the link, best as I can present it:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/09/michael-hudson-?
on-student-debt-relief-inflation-ukraine-disaster-
capitalism-petrodollar-challenge.html
And thanks to opportue knocks (?) for suggesting we just use the front page recent postings to home in on worthy comments – I like that as it’s easy to chang pages that way as well.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 11 2022 1:19 utc | 155

Algeria discussions to join BRICS.
https://thecradle.co/Article/News/15510

According to media reports on 8 September, the newly appointed Russian ambassador to Algeria, Valeryan Shuvayev, announced that the North African country’s president, Abdelmajid Tebboune, will likely visit Moscow before the end of the year to discuss mutual cooperation between the two countries.
Tebboune’s potential visit will center around Algeria’s desire to join the Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa (BRICS) group of emerging economies.
The BRICS group of nations represents the world’s most prominent economies outside of the western hemisphere.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2022 4:57 utc | 156

Thanks for the replies!
Paul GV will have noted if he perused the pics at my VK Space that I indeed am the captain/owner of my own boat, and I certainly concur with the old captain.
Many happenings are occurring that together add up to greater import than the SMO. All of them constitute new life springing forth, while the SMO deals with the issues of the Old World that’s fading away.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11 2022 5:22 utc | 157

Xi Jinping has the tightest control of any leader ever in China or the rest of the world…… (4G,5G, AI etc) says Peter Zeihan. China will not last this decade
Will it last enough to slay the MICIMATT?

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 11 2022 5:27 utc | 158

Lizzie’s in a box.
I thought it might get more audience here. Consortium news today
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/09/cruelties-of-the-queens-reign/
Very well said.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2022 7:54 utc | 159

Chinese yuan-denominated bond sales have now exceeded those of the dollar.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/bonds/china-us-yuan-dollar-corporate-debt-sales-central-banks-fed-2022-9

Posted by: too scents | Sep 11 2022 8:49 utc | 160

Comment by karlof1 | September 11, 2022 at 05:22 | Permalink
I would like to send a Pic of my boat which has just finished antifouling on the slipway but I don’t know how to convert screenshots to a useable format.
She is a steel 60′ twin Ford Lehman long distance launch. I am not prejudiced against sail. Some are prejudiced against power boats.

Posted by: Paul GV | Sep 11 2022 9:41 utc | 161

Paul GV @161–
Cool! If you can convert the screen shot to a file, you ought to be able to post it to the comment box at my VK Wall.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11 2022 16:45 utc | 162

a bunch of highly credentialed doctors and medical industry professionals release negative info about vax effects:
https://archive.ph/MoP0V

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 12 2022 3:03 utc | 163

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Sep 10 2022 23:59 utc | 152
@ Scorpion #140
Thank you for your reply, but i believe we’ll have to agree to disagree. I can’t lump China and Russia with the turning wheels in the west. One thing i’ve learned from coming to MoA is what Karlof1 and several others continues to harp on regarding both Russia and China. They have leaders trying to help their citizens. Thru the speeches Karlof1 continually posts show the leaders in both Russia and China are sane! On the other hand, the west’s leadership, including america’s vassals’ are literally insane, every one of them! What i see is R&C trying to change this world for all humanity, not just a chosen few. Imo these globalists are only amongst the chosen few.

I understand. It’s a compelling argument and I hope it is accurate. But alarm bells go off when logics line up perfectly in an argument or belief system. They rarely pan out. I don’t have a read on Xi; he seems like an alien to me. Putin is extremely compelling. But he’s also Intelligence and one who specialized in the West. More alarm bells…
And of course he’s a politician: MORE alarm bells!!
All best.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 12 2022 3:10 utc | 164

I hereby declare a Gas Price Cap.
The Gas Price Cap is officially set at $3.00 per gallon.
All sellers of gasoline are hereby commanded to sell gasoline at $3.00 a gallon or lower. Hopefully lower, but the line is now drawn at $3 per gallon.
I’m sure it will work …. Joe Biden tells me so.
Seems to me that there is a slight flaw in this thinking, but Joe Biden swears it will work and that this is the American way of doing business.
Who’s with me?

Posted by: Yankee Doodles | Sep 12 2022 23:24 utc | 165

@ Tannehouser | Sep 8 2022 22:53 utc | 99
Do you know the science-fiction of William Gibson? His recent series of three books takes this as an idea … then runs with it in a different direction like he often does. I think the title was “Peripheral”, its his 2nd most recent book. He writes novels in groups of three, and he’s two into this set that launches with this idea …. people getting paid to play games, and in this case as a security guard watching a ritzy gathering keeping paparazzi away — inside a game.
That’s not really what the book is about. Just the launch point of a recent adventure by the science fiction who once invented the term ‘cyberspace’. Interesting to notice that by reading Gibson one still stays a few years ahead of the curve. Same as it ever was.
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On the topic of processed foods, I do know this from personal experience. I am a diabetic and a heart attack survivor. I thus try to survive by eating as close to zero carbs and zero salt as I can reach. Your body needs some of both, but trying for zero and reaching low instead works for me.
This means I do not eat processed foods. Not as a goal of itself, but since they all contain either carbs or salt or both, well, there are whole aisles of the supermarket that I don’t even go down.
Since I’ve been doing this, my health has improved. Hard to isolate the cause, as getting my blood sugar down has helped I am quite sure. But, by what I was told, that should only pause the decay from diabetes, and instead my health is definitely improved. The fact that the side effect of the diet is that I avoid processed foods appears as at least a possible reason.
Offered in case it helps another human being. Good luck out there. Remember to protect yourself at all times.

Posted by: Yankee Doodles | Sep 12 2022 23:51 utc | 166

karlof1 on Open (NOT Ukraine) Thread 2022-147
I have finally discovered how to convert a screenshot to pdf.
I have not been able to join VK or work out any access.
I have found your site but the rest is above my pay grade. I am no good at digital acrobatics, it frustrates me. Every attempt at 2 step verification fails, even though I enter the right numbers.
I am not going back to school to learn computer jargon. Nothing digital easy for me. TV hadn’t been invented when I was born. I would have liked to show you pics of my boat. It is easy to operate my GPS chart plotter.

Posted by: Paul GV | Sep 13 2022 2:07 utc | 167