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September 1, 2022
Open (NOT Ukraine) Thread 2022-142
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I respectfully request the forbearance of our host and all MoA readers in reposting this at the top of an appropriate thread. Thank you all in advance. Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 18:58 utc | 1 The simplest explanation of NATO expansion I’ve read. Seriously??? I received an email from Stephen Harper endorsing Pierre Poilievre. It almost prevented me from voting for him, except that the other candidates are all so dismal. Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 19:31 utc | 3 Thanks, Scorpion Important enough to repost in a Ukrainian thread, IMO.
Soooo…. Is the US strong enough to withstand an arrest of a former POTUS? Here is a picture of the barge used in the “mini- D-day”, grounded and burning. So it’s true. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 19:41 utc | 5 oops sorry, misread this was Ukraine thread, not open. The barge message can be deleted Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 19:44 utc | 6 Soooo…. Is the US strong enough to withstand an arrest of a former POTUS? Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 19:49 utc | 7 so i’m walking around the state capitol grounds the other day, noting how per the US and its monuments, the millions dead in Korea = “the forgotten war”, here in this bastion of wokeness, tree chopping, love of gambling on native lands, piles of eco BS, school funding thru the “public” lottery, lots of lgbtq*ia++ hugs all around, every other space a ‘safe space,’ nothing but care for all the social malaise, w/all the needle exchanges and Narcan and Seahawks (NFL) flags everywhere. Isn’t it obvious from the fences and cops and cameras and recycling bins and people living out of their trashed vehicles and shuttered businesses on every street…
Coming to the end of the USSR, there was this: the Iran-Iraq War. Gorbachev trusted the West because he wanted to, after 70 years of unrelenting war on Russia. or maybe he thought the operation against Panama in ’89 was a ‘Just Cause’? maybe the character of the West cannot be determined from its relationship to Israel? to the Saudis? to every government south of Texas (in the US)? Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 20:15 utc | 8 Western support for dictators like Nicolae Ceausescu also was not unknown to people like Gorby or his successors. Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 20:23 utc | 9 pretzelattack | Sep 1 2022 20:19 utc | 11 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 20:24 utc | 10 Soooo…. Is the US strong enough to withstand an arrest of a former POTUS? The Ukraine open thread is not up (yet?) so I thought I’ll put it here. Annalena Baerbock has just declared she wants to support Ukraine no matter what the German people might think about it: video quote. Posted by: Joker_vD | Sep 1 2022 20:47 utc | 12 4,900,000 broke immigrants since Biden’s inauguration except most are not broke: they are given debit cards with $800 USD a month income. Etc. Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:01 utc | 13 Several “divide and conquer” themed posts in recent threads reminded me of a podcast discussion a while back between Cornel West and William Barber about how those in power in the US deliberately set poor blacks and poor whites against one another. Worth a listen (ok to skip the first 10-12 minutes). Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 21:03 utc | 14 Scorpion no section of the US population has made a bigger contribution, in terms of labour, that the descendants of African (and often native American) slaves. Posted by: bevin | Sep 1 2022 21:08 utc | 15 A quote from Gorby from his obit page here at MoA: Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:24 utc | 16 Lukashenko on Soros during an open lesson for Belarussian schoolchildren:
Posted by: S | Sep 1 2022 21:26 utc | 17 “Did you ever see the faces of children? They get so excited Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:38 utc | 18 “The nonsense that “..Brown-skinned criminals, many of them illegal immigrants, (are) released after theft or violence without bail…” Is, if intended to contrast dramatically with the treatment of criminals of European ancestry, laughable.” @ Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 18:58 utc | 1 Posted by: james | Sep 1 2022 21:41 utc | 20 There is a good discussion here on how US elites have used divide-and-conquer strategies to keep poor Americans of different races from joining together to promote their common interests. Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 21:44 utc | 21 from the above-linked PCR article: i see the folks who voted for harper, trudeau and etc. etc. – in the very same light, so don’t be discouraged when you knight in white armor doesn’t pan out like you think he is going to.. Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 21:48 utc | 23 Scorpion | Sep 1 2022 21:46 utc | 25 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:57 utc | 24 rjb1.5 | September 01, 2022 at 21:57 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 22:02 utc | 25 pretzelattack | Sep 1 2022 21:41 utc | 22 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 22:09 utc | 26 rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 22:09 utc | 29 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 22:17 utc | 27 anti-spiegel.ru – report on Baerbock comments confirmed:
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:19 utc | 28 Cont’d from S | Sep 1 2022 21:26 utc | 19
Posted by: S | Sep 1 2022 22:29 utc | 29 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:57 utc | 27 From anti-spiegel.ru reported in August but worth the time to consider. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:39 utc | 31 From anti-spiegel.ru reported in August but worth the time to consider. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:44 utc | 32 Whether there is any concerted “anti-white” movement of any importance I will leave for someone else to prove rather than simply assert. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 1 2022 23:19 utc | 33 Again: I say there is a deliberate anti-white campaign and I also say it is a VERY bad thing! Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 23:25 utc | 34 rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 23:25 utc | 36 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 23:33 utc | 35 I don’t envy b of late. The sockpuppeteers are out in full force. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 1 2022 23:34 utc | 36 One to be subjugated but more importantly turned against one another along culture war schisms and other useless nonsense, which is the very crux of the so-called war on white people. no? well, don’t let that stop you! if Jane Austen listened to people like PCR, she never would have written a word. and PCR would never advocate making opera affordable for the masses. Let them eat Cake. I hear Korn and Hole are looking to tour together… Posted by: james | Sep 1 2022 21:41 utc Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 0:05 utc | 39 Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2022 23:51 utc | 39 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2022 0:06 utc | 40 @17 bevin Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 0:06 utc | 41 To grasp the spirit of Medicine’s easily done: Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 2 2022 0:06 utc | 42 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 0:06 utc | 43 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2022 0:09 utc | 43 Again: I say there is a deliberate anti-white campaign and I also say it is a VERY bad thing! Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 2 2022 0:12 utc | 44 @Scorpion,
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2022 0:14 utc | 45 Nemesis Posted by: bevin | Sep 2 2022 0:20 utc | 46 @45 tom Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 0:28 utc | 47 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 0:28 utc | 49 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2022 0:33 utc | 48 Most white people believe they are evil and deserve to be marginalized. Most white people now believe that black and brown people need to be empowered and given preference. Many white people believe the world would be a better place if they were no more. This is the result of a concerted propaganda campaign that has been ongoing for some time. And again: pointing out that there is an anti-white campaign has nothing to do with being anti black or brown. However, part of the anti-white campaign is deliberately favoring black and brown over white in various jurisdictions whose AG’s have been put there thanks to Soros funding. Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 0:53 utc | 49 Also, see USA-Haiti relations for a sordid tale of post-colonialism. It continues to this day. Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 0:53 utc | 51 fyi Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2022 2:15 utc | 52 Bevin, Posted by: Lysias | Sep 2 2022 2:23 utc | 53 Looks like with Biden’s speech today they are moving in more on the domestic threat, being cockblocked abroad by Russia and to a lesser extent China. Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 2:53 utc | 54 @ farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 21:48 utc | 26 Posted by: james | Sep 2 2022 3:30 utc | 55 @ Scorpion | Sep 2 2022 1:37 utc
Goodbye, frying pan; hello, fire. Posted by: majoab | Sep 2 2022 5:58 utc | 56 And soon the full cost to Canada and the world of Trudy/Freeland’s part in the Ukie-nazi debacle will be on full display, a sticky mess that any sane politician will avoid being tarred with. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 2 2022 6:20 utc | 57 4,900,000 broke immigrants since Biden’s inauguration except most are not broke: they are given debit cards with $800 USD a month income. Etc. Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 2 2022 7:03 utc | 58 In other news. Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 2 2022 7:20 utc | 59 Paul Craig Roberts: Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 2 2022 8:19 utc | 60 For all those still enjoying the British Monarchy and its imbecile government. Some cheery advice from the aussies: Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 2 2022 8:33 utc | 61 RE: US divisiveness. Posted by: dask | Sep 2 2022 9:20 utc | 62 What a mess! I have no intention of entering into any of the tired old debates, especially when the dialog consists of a mixture of evidence free assertions and/or irrelevant personal anecdotes. Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 2 2022 9:22 utc | 63 Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 18:58 utc | 1 Posted by: Paul | Sep 2 2022 9:33 utc | 64 Australia and NZ are in chaos and are broken. Things have changed forever for the worse. Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 9:54 utc | 65 Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 9:54 utc | 67 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 2 2022 10:28 utc | 66 http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=24221 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 2 2022 10:32 utc | 67 G7 will put a price limit for Russian oil from Dec 5. Posted by: rk | Sep 2 2022 10:34 utc | 68 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 2:53 utc | 54 Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 10:37 utc | 69 Here is a good review of journalism and current events by Alex Mitchell, a giant of Australian journalism. Posted by: Paul | Sep 2 2022 10:55 utc | 70 #BaerbockRuecktritt the twitter tag in Germany for #ResignBaerbock has been the top hashtag on twitter since yesterday with over 41.5K Tweets. The German mainstream media is attempting to cover for their golden child claiming it is a Russian disinformation campaign. The 30 second video says exactly as the 2 minute video regardless of the media claiming otherwise. Because this statement was given in English, I assume that many Germans would be uncomfortable in their English and would believe what the media says.. Posted by: rmml | Sep 2 2022 10:55 utc | 71 >> Boycott totally products not made in the U.S.A. Posted by: Mr Boycott | Sep 2 2022 11:08 utc | 72 Watched the whole Biden speech. You should try. Even a quick look will give the visual setup and the tenor. Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 2 2022 11:18 utc | 73 Baerbock openly puts maintaining the sanctions above the interests of the people in Germany and above the will of their voters. This makes it clear why the German “quality media” did not report on it. Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 2 2022 11:21 utc | 74 Watched some belligerent bitch from Germany telling Germans to go fuck themselves; Germany will back Ukraine 100%…..leaving Germans hungry and frozen in the cold. You guys are fucked. Like, Really Fucked. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 2 2022 11:34 utc | 75 uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:44 utc | 34 Posted by: cirsium | Sep 2 2022 11:41 utc | 76 Medvedev: “It’s time to limit the price of Russia pipeline gas supplied from Russia to Europe” said auntie von der Leyen. It will be like with oil. There will simply be no Russian gas in Europe Posted by: rk | Sep 2 2022 11:42 utc | 77 Bemildred@76…Boycott is by far the safest form of protest, yet difficult to spread, surrounded by materialistic bastards that can’t see past the end of their cell phone. But that is the answer to slaying the hegemon….kill the beast of Mammon…or cut a leg or two off, Russia seems to have chosen the arms. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 2 2022 12:08 utc | 78 Find ways to avoid paying taxes so your money doesn’t end up in the assistance of the war machine. Read the Bible and the Tao Te Ching. Sorry, in a mood tonight because the writing is on the wall and Biden’s speech is the priming event for a coming crackdown. Bemildred@76…Boycott is by far the safest form of protest, yet difficult to spread, surrounded by materialistic bastards that can’t see past the end of their cell phone. But that is the answer to slaying the hegemon….kill the beast of Mammon…or cut a leg or two off, Russia seems to have chosen the arms. Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 2 2022 12:25 utc | 80 i am considering voting for max bernier Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 12:34 utc | 81 “It was not Washington that collapsed the Soviet Union. It was the Politburo’s arrest of the President of the Soviet Union.” New German domestic rules…..lights out by 10pm, going look like Norf Korea from space, brrr……and yes I’m splitting my sides laughing….German politicians are funnier than cross dressing perverts, passing themselves off as President….and yes you can included Bill C and Boris J in that schmata confused psychosis. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 2 2022 12:49 utc | 83 I see the Canadian politician Poilievre mentioned above, and then I remembered this list of WEF members. Poilievre had a page on the WEF site, but now it is only found in web archives. I don’t ever remember hearing him (or any other politician) renouncing the WEF — so I assume they are all on the same page and support WEF valves. Posted by: Peter | Sep 2 2022 13:01 utc | 84 “The G7 announced its intention to ban services for the transportation of Russian oil by sea if it is sold above the ceiling set by the West.” Posted by: unimperator | Sep 2 2022 13:01 utc | 85 Poilievre had a page on the WEF site… Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 13:12 utc | 86 I haven’t watched the fascist Biden’s speech, I know ahead of time whatever comes from his mouth has been spoonfed to him by his handlers. the US elites have made war on lower classes for 50 years or more, they don’t care how much destruction they cause at home and abroad as long as they stay in power. Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 2 2022 13:21 utc | 87 Craig Murray on Twitter reports:
https://twitter.com/craigmurrayorg/status/1565658753348804608 Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2022 13:35 utc | 88 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 2 2022 13:01 utc | 87 Posted by: dask | Sep 2 2022 13:44 utc | 89 They really don’t seem to grok that western economies are leveraged 100:1 on cheap energy, and sellers of vital commodities have the power to refuse.. Posted by: dask | Sep 2 2022 13:46 utc | 90 @Paul Greenwood #62:
That is an absolute bullshit figure. Whoever told you that is a liar. Posted by: S | Sep 2 2022 13:47 utc | 91 I have massive respect for Craig Murray (I posted on his blog for over 10 years – before I got banned) I was amazed that bevin got banned. I thought he was one of the most sensible posters there. There are others who occasionally post here. Posted by: tony_0pmoc | Sep 2 2022 14:02 utc | 92 “They really don’t seem to grok that western economies are leveraged 100:1 on cheap energy, and sellers of vital commodities have the power to refuse..” Posted by: unimperator | Sep 2 2022 14:03 utc | 93 In their propaganda messages they say it backwards. Posted by: rk | Sep 2 2022 14:15 utc | 94 Posted by: rk | Sep 2 2022 14:15 utc | 95 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 2 2022 14:20 utc | 95 An assassination attempt on Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, Argentina’s former President and current Vice-President, fails because assassin’s gun jams: video. Posted by: S | Sep 2 2022 14:31 utc | 96 @ Paul Posted by: dfg | Sep 2 2022 14:33 utc | 97 Peter@86…seen PollyV, ape’n Gonzalo Lira, addressing Ms DressUp as he ate breakfast, drank coffee and gave Justin a lesson on inflation. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 2 2022 14:33 utc | 98 @ Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 12:34 utc | 83 quote : Posted by: james | Sep 2 2022 14:44 utc | 99 Great picture. |
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