Open (NOT Ukraine) Thread 2022-142
News & views NOT related to the Ukraine conflict ...
Posted by b on September 1, 2022 at 18:27 UTC | Permalink
next page »The simplest explanation of NATO expansion I've read.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/09/01/how-the-cold-war-was-resurrected/
sister article:
https://sputniknews.com/20220831/gorbachev-was-promised-non-expansion-of-nato-his-mistake-was-to-believe-it-ex-us-official-says-1100199807.html
"Roberts pointed out that President Reagan realized Gorbachev’s greatness. “Reagan also realized that Gorbachev was limited in his ability to end the Cold War by distrustful elements in the Politburo,” he went on to say. “President Reagan’s plan, in which I was a participant, was to rescue the US economy from “stagflation” and then to put pressure of a threatened arms race – Star Wars – on the Soviet Union in order to enhance Gorbachev’s position in favor of ending the Cold War than to subject the struggling Soviet economy to an arms race with a revitalized US economy.”
“Reagan, despite the CIA’s opposition and that of the US military/security complex, carried out his plan not in order to win the Cold War, but, as Reagan repeatedly stressed to all of us involved, to end the Cold War,” Roberts added. “None of us, Reagan included, had any idea of Soviet collapse. Our purpose was to halt a gratuitous conflict that threatened humanity with nuclear Armageddon.”
What the US authorities did not realize, Roberts said, was that hardline elements of the Soviet Communist Party thought that Gorbachev was making too many concessions to the West too soon and without sufficient reciprocal concessions and guarantees.
“Apparently, Gorbachev himself did not realize it. Reagan proceeded with care,” he said. “He invited Gorbachev to the White House.”
Roberts recalled that Reagan convinced the distinguished American pianist, Van Cliburn, to come out of retirement and perform for Gorbachev in the White House.
“Van Cliburn had won, with Khrushchev’s approval, the inaugural International Tchaikovsky Competition in Moscow in 1958,” he noted. “In addition to classics of Russian composers, Van Cliburn regaled Gorbachev with Russian folk songs. President Reagan absolutely forbade any derogatory reference to the Soviet Union. Nothing, not even the CIA, was to prevent the end of the Cold War.”
Roberts shared that after Reagan’s second term ended, he had less connection with his successor, his former vice president, George H. W. Bush.
“But I know for an absolute fact that Secretary of State James Baker gave assurances to Gorbachev that if Gorbachev permitted the unification of Germany, NATO would not move one inch to the East,” he shared. “There is no doubt about this, despite the denials by American neoconservatives and Clinton regime officials.”
Gorbachev in an interview last December said he believed the Soviet Union could have survived even after the August 1991 coup as a Union of Sovereign States. A Gallup poll taken in 2013 revealed that a majority of residents in former republics regretted the collapse of the Soviet Union.
“The Soviet Union collapsed, not because of Reagan, but because the hardline Communists, disturbed, as is understandable, by Gorbachev’s trust in Washington’s word, attempted a coup and placed Gorbachev under house arrest. It was this miscalculation that brought about the collapse of the Soviet government and the rise of Yeltsin, who, intentionally or not, essentially was under Washington’s control,” Roberts said."
Seriously??? I received an email from Stephen Harper endorsing Pierre Poilievre. It almost prevented me from voting for him, except that the other candidates are all so dismal.
Trudy-the-feminist may decide she can defeat Poilievre and get a majority by calling another early election, but I doubt it. After the last 2 attempts, Canadians will punish them if they try.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Sep 1 2022 17:41 utc (in another thread)
And have you seen Polievre making a big deal out of Harper's desperate "please let me be relevant again" endorsement? Nope.
Recent polls showed that Harper's "endorsement" was a not a positive, so you're not alone. So Harper appears to have been given a "don't call us, we'll call you" position. Harper is just trying to gain control of the cash box where 300,000 Canadians paid $10 to support Poilievre, with Baber and Lewis in tow to the tune of another 100,000 or so new members. Charest has been kicked to the curb like Lib/Con flip-flopper fossil he is.
But Trudeau doesn't get to "decide" if the NDP and THE CONSERVATIVES win a non-confidence vote as soon as Parliament reconvenes this fall. He didn't regain his hoped-for majority in 2019 or the 2021 snap-election on the eve of the Plandemic, ya think even he's dumb enough to try it again post Trucker Convoy?
My guess is that the 2021 plan was for the Trudy/Chrystie cabal to get a majority so they could implement the WEF Plandemic agenda without having to face the electorate until 2025, when the Great Reset would be beyond being stopped. But the minority forced Singh to reveal his actual WEF allegiance.
Sunlight, the best disinfectant.
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 19:31 utc | 3
Thanks, Scorpion Important enough to repost in a Ukrainian thread, IMO.
Paul Craig Roberts:
"It was not Washington that collapsed the Soviet Union. It was the Politburo’s arrest of the President of the Soviet Union."
Soooo.... Is the US strong enough to withstand an arrest of a former POTUS?
Here is a picture of the barge used in the "mini- D-day", grounded and burning. So it's true.
https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1565373473693868035
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 19:41 utc | 5
oops sorry, misread this was Ukraine thread, not open. The barge message can be deleted
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2022 19:44 utc | 6
Soooo.... Is the US strong enough to withstand an arrest of a former POTUS?
Posted by: erichwwk | Sep 1 2022 19:37 utc
Or perhaps, given Hunter's laptop is the debacle that can't be contained, can the US withstand the arrest or genuine impeachment of a sitting president and his influence/corruption peddling son?
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 19:49 utc | 7
so i'm walking around the state capitol grounds the other day, noting how per the US and its monuments, the millions dead in Korea = "the forgotten war", here in this bastion of wokeness, tree chopping, love of gambling on native lands, piles of eco BS, school funding thru the "public" lottery, lots of lgbtq*ia++ hugs all around, every other space a 'safe space,' nothing but care for all the social malaise, w/all the needle exchanges and Narcan and Seahawks (NFL) flags everywhere. Isn't it obvious from the fences and cops and cameras and recycling bins and people living out of their trashed vehicles and shuttered businesses on every street...
and lookie lookie, on the marina, a historical notice boasting about the US invasion of the Philippines and Russia:
USS Olympia (C-6/CA-15/CL-15/IX-40) is a protected cruiser that saw service in the United States Navy from her commissioning in 1895 until 1922. This vessel became famous as the flagship of Commodore George Dewey at the Battle of Manila Bay during the Spanish–American War in 1898. The ship was decommissioned after returning to the U.S. in 1899, but was returned to active service in 1902.She served until World War I as a training ship for naval cadets and as a floating barracks in Charleston, South Carolina. In 1917, she was mobilized again for war service, patrolling the American coast and escorting transport ships.
After World War I, Olympia participated in the 1919 Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War and conducted cruises in the Mediterranean and Adriatic Seas to promote peace in the unstable Balkan countries.
Coming to the end of the USSR, there was this: the Iran-Iraq War. Gorbachev trusted the West because he wanted to, after 70 years of unrelenting war on Russia. or maybe he thought the operation against Panama in '89 was a 'Just Cause'? maybe the character of the West cannot be determined from its relationship to Israel? to the Saudis? to every government south of Texas (in the US)?
it is curious about the nature of the two major 'communist' regimes that they were easily split by the West and could not unite until after one major component of those regimes is (again) threatened with annihilation by an enemy who is anything but unpredictable.
how many times do the Russian and Chinese governments have to state over decades their willingness to "partner with the West" before people stop looking at these regimes as some kind of saviors of the planet?
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 20:15 utc | 8
Western support for dictators like Nicolae Ceausescu also was not unknown to people like Gorby or his successors.
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 20:23 utc | 9
pretzelattack | Sep 1 2022 20:19 utc | 11
someone else is posting under my i.d. not that i care what someone i don't know thinks about me.
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 20:24 utc | 10
Soooo.... Is the US strong enough to withstand an arrest of a former POTUS?
Posted by: erichwwk | Sep 1 2022 19:37 utc
Or perhaps, given Hunter's laptop is the debacle that can't be contained, can the US withstand the arrest or genuine impeachment of a sitting president and his influence/corruption peddling son?
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 19:49 utc | 7
The only thing crazier than Ukraine is the Republic In Name Only Amerika! I've given up trying to figure out what is going on let alone trying to imagine what might happen later. Why anyone in that country bothers to vote is beyond me. But then why anyone believed the silly stories they trotted out to explain the JFK hit is also beyond me, and of course so much more.
Salvador Dali is reported to have said on leaving Mexico after his first visit that he never planned to return because he disliked any country more surrealistic than himself! A great remark worthy of the great artist. Amerika, though, has gone beyond surrealist to the Realm of Nightmare one peopled by endless parades of smiling villains broadcasting their latest feel-good narratives whilst their hidden lower bodies wade through pus, blood, gore and excrement, the true ground of their current cultures. A real shit show ...
A friend just reported from Puerto Vallarta that many apartment buildings are going up to handle the influx of Americans moving in. Similar stories in various choice neighbourhoods in Mexico City. The locals aren't happy since rents are being driven up and small businesses pushed out to be replaced by rental units for estraneros. In PV, along with well-heeled retirees who presumably just cashed out some of their high-priced US real estate are also poorer senior citizens on their pensions, now in Mexico presumably because their income isn't enough for living in CA and so they are wandering around PV looking to our friend like abandoned lunatics. Many Americans do not travel well.
Amerika is falling apart. Food factories being burned down, gas refineries too. 4,900,000 broke immigrants since Biden's inauguration except most are not broke: they are given debit cards with $800 USD a month income. Who is paying this? What for? Very strange. Brown-skinned criminals, many of them illegal immigrants, released after theft or violence without bail. White political dissidents are labelled 'domestic terrorists' and fired or jailed. Several states allow theft if under $1000.00 so of course many small stores are closing. Tens of thousands of small businesses closed during covid never to reopen. Nobody cares about these people. Nobody tells their story. They are now unwelcome in the country their ancestors founded and passed onto them. They are regarded as the inheritors of criminal theft and violence, people who deserve only to suffer and be rejected from the human race. Yes, Amerika is falling apart. And this is being done deliberately, but nobody is allowed to talk about it, nobody is even sure if this is true or not.
The media, even conservative media, keeps pretending that everything is going to be alright as soon as the November elections roll around and then corrupt officials from Biden on down will get impeached (though not convicted). But after 2020 election, I doubt that anything will ever be settled by elections again and even if the Republicans do win and do run a few committees and impeachments it will end up being no more than empty drama which doesn't change a thing. It's a Republic In Name Only after all....
The Ukraine open thread is not up (yet?) so I thought I'll put it here. Annalena Baerbock has just declared she wants to support Ukraine no matter what the German people might think about it: video quote.
Posted by: Joker_vD | Sep 1 2022 20:47 utc | 12
4,900,000 broke immigrants since Biden's inauguration except most are not broke: they are given debit cards with $800 USD a month income. Etc.
Scorpion | Sep 1 2022 20:34 utc | 14
why are you posting here and not in arms w/your soul mates in the Azov battalion?
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:01 utc | 13
Several "divide and conquer" themed posts in recent threads reminded me of a podcast discussion a while back between Cornel West and William Barber about how those in power in the US deliberately set poor blacks and poor whites against one another. Worth a listen (ok to skip the first 10-12 minutes).
https://anchor.fm/spkerbox/episodes/Rev--Barber-Pt-1---Why-America-May-Go-to-Hell-era4i0
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 21:03 utc | 14
Scorpion no section of the US population has made a bigger contribution, in terms of labour, that the descendants of African (and often native American) slaves.
The nonsense that "..Brown-skinned criminals, many of them illegal immigrants, (are) released after theft or violence without bail..." Is, if intended to contrast dramatically with the treatment of criminals of European ancestry, laughable.
Within the last two weeks an 80 year old black socialist has been arrested after a no-knock police raid on his home, on the grounds-much to laugh about today- that he and his party were Russian agents.
So far as white fascists are concerned, they have as much right to free speech and freedom of assembly as anyone and those rights, often breached, should be respected. Unhappily these various 'right wing' factions refuse to understand that they treatment that they are getting is based on police treatment of black people and that there is a tradition, as old as the Republic, of poor people being violently deterred from acts of dissidence, from strikes to civil right marches.
That is the basic political problem in the USA: the ruling class- as Jay Gould boasted- can always hire one half of the working class to kill the other half. What it finds even easier is to convince poor politically powerless white people that cops are doing them a favour by killing black people and that black people protesting against state neglect are, in some unfathomable way, depriving them of something. The spectacle of the lynching perhaps?
Posted by: bevin | Sep 1 2022 21:08 utc | 15
A quote from Gorby from his obit page here at MoA:
"Security can no longer be assured by military means–neither by the use of arms or deterrence, nor by continued perfection of the ‘sword’ and ‘shield.’ Attempts to achieve military superiority are preposterous."
since the "closure of the frontier", he's absolutely right. every war is a civil war.
people don't understand this because there is no other plan but to keep "competing". forever. people can't even imagine doing something else. what could possibly be worth doing other than getting a bigger cow or car or gun than your neighbor?
and isn't this how society evolved? Bacchus conquers Thebes by smashing everyone else's wine bottles, right? Rome conquered the Mediterranean through crucifixion, right? you only get to flavor country by destroying all the other tobacco crops, right?
"there is no competition." TS Eliot. as in "2001", the way people talk about evolution requires extra-terrestrial intervention before proto-humans get beyond using the dead to make more dead. likewise, at the end of 2001, the enemy is their own technology, HAL.
but that's not the way it happened. evolution occurred as it did because of care for the dead, non-utilitarian, utterly impractical care for those who've "lost the competition" and can no longer pay the VAT on their lives.
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:24 utc | 16
Lukashenko on Soros during an open lesson for Belarussian schoolchildren:
Soros was the first to visit me, he brought funding for “historical truth”, the textbooks and so on. I told him frankly, sincerely: don’t come to us [to Belarus] anymore. I won’t be implementing this policy.That’s when I became a “totalitarian dictator”, reviled, and so did our country. Why? Because we wanted to write our textbooks ourselves, to build our life ourselves, to be sovereign and independent. And look what happened with Baltic states and the Ukraine.
Posted by: S | Sep 1 2022 21:26 utc | 17
"Did you ever see the faces of children? They get so excited
Waking up on Christmas morning hours before the winter sun has ignited
They believe in dreams and all they mean, including heavens generosity
Peeping round the door to see what parcels are for free in curiosity"
The Who, Tommy, Christmas
what is parceled out for free by year beneath a fake plastic tree is the theft of curiosity.
"you've been told many times before
Messiahs pointed to the door
And no one had the guts to leave the temple!
I'm free-I'm free
And freedom tastes of reality..."
The Who, Tommy, I'm Free
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:38 utc | 18
"The nonsense that "..Brown-skinned criminals, many of them illegal immigrants, (are) released after theft or violence without bail..." Is, if intended to contrast dramatically with the treatment of criminals of European ancestry, laughable."
I take it rjb and bevin deny there is a campaign in the US to demonize, demoralize, deracinate and disempower white people.
I might have agreed with you up to a few years ago. But now I don't and suggest you read other than socialist journals for you are behind the times.
(And since I live with and greatly love a brown-skinned, part black woman, I know for a fact that I am not writing any of this from an anti-brown-skin perspective. I don't have a racist bone in my body - like most people.)
I believe that PCR is correct when he points out there is a definite anti-white agenda at play in the US these days. Decrying an anti-white agenda is not anti-black.
The anti-white campaign is not essentially racist per se. It's about marginalizing the majority of the country so they can take it over with minimal resistance. Most white people believe they are evil and deserve to be marginalized. Most white people now believe that black and brown people need to be empowered and given preference. Many white people believe the world would be a better place if they were no more. This is the result of a concerted propaganda campaign that has been ongoing for some time. And again: pointing out that there is an anti-white campaign has nothing to do with being anti black or brown. However, part of the anti-white campaign is deliberately favoring black and brown over white in various jurisdictions whose AG's have been put there thanks to Soros funding.
@ Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 18:58 utc | 1
there used to be a regular moa poster named circe that was obsessed with american politics.. they never missed a chance to express their vitriol... you must be the canuck version, lol... i view your position as a type of zealotry.... you figure by voting for the ''new guy'' with the cons, it is going to be different... i view this as a sad joke, but have to respect there are probably a lot of naive people like you who think this way... i see the folks who voted for harper, trudeau and etc. etc. - in the very same light, so don't be discouraged when you knight in white armor doesn't pan out like you think he is going to..
but i am curious... if you think the ndp platform is so disturbing that it warrants a no confidence vote, i suspect the adulation that harper had for israel, and reflected in his leadership is something you were perfectly fine with....
so the new guy is going to be really good and special, lol... i can't see it myself.... anyone associated with the conservative party is not someone i will support ever.... my main problem is i know the history and it ain't pretty..
Posted by: james | Sep 1 2022 21:41 utc | 20
There is a good discussion here on how US elites have used divide-and-conquer strategies to keep poor Americans of different races from joining together to promote their common interests.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 21:44 utc | 21
from the above-linked PCR article:
"The White Peoples Are Being Brainwashed Out of Existence
Paul Craig Roberts
Western universities are fixed on a course that denies white students knowledge of the literature, art, and achievements of Western culture, focusing only on its alleged racism and collection of evils ascribed to “whiteness,” while teaching the students the culture and literature of other people.
As this headline in the British Telegraph puts it, “Universities drop Chaucer and Shakespeare as ‘decolonization’ takes root. Many British universities have sought to liberate their courses from ‘white, Western and Eurocentric’ knowledge”
To “decolonize the curriculum” means to deracinate it, to remove white ethnicities from their cultures. In other words, to dissolve Western civilization. This is now the main function of a university education. White students are to be isolated from their heritage by withholding knowledge of it, thus leaving white peoples without any sense of themselves. Kept ignorant of their heritage by the evicting of “whiteness,” they will only be taught the cultures of others. In other words, this is a chosen policy of cultural genocide via deracination.
What then is the purpose of national security, defense departments, intelligence services? With universities busy at work destroying a people’s concept of themselves, what do deracinated people rise in defense of?
The enemies of the Western world are its own universities, not foreign powers.
From the Telegram’s report:
By Craig Simpson
27 August 2022
William Shakespeare’s sonnets are now less likely to be included in British university curricula
Arriving on campus this autumn, students may find their modules peculiarly devoid of Geoffrey Chaucer, Jane Austen, or Shakespeare’s sonnets.
This is for their own good, according to the many British universities, which have sought to “decolonise the curriculum” and liberate courses from the inequities of “white, Western and Eurocentric” knowledge.
The syllogism seemingly accepted across many university departments runs like this: Western knowledge is a product of colonialism; colonialism is an evil to be opposed; therefore Western knowledge must be opposed.
In this view, it is incumbent upon academics to change curricula – megalithic “knowledge” is to be replaced by pluralistic “knowledges”, and the “Euro-centric” canon is to be replaced by one that is more diverse."
I do not take the time to verify statements like many made above, but generally PCR is an accurate reporter - along with holding very strong views, admittedly.
Again: I say there is a deliberate anti-white campaign and I also say it is a VERY bad thing!
i see the folks who voted for harper, trudeau and etc. etc. - in the very same light, so don't be discouraged when you knight in white armor doesn't pan out like you think he is going to..
Posted by: james | Sep 1 2022 21:41 utc | 23
It's like dems and repubs, basically. Since Canada is not as badly locked into a 2-party system as is the US, perhaps Canadian voters will be adventurous enough to try other options at some point.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 21:48 utc | 23
Scorpion | Sep 1 2022 21:46 utc | 25
that white people take such attacks on general, public education as an attack on white people shows how stupidly racist white people are.
"people will pay more to see a dead Indian than to help a live beggar." yep, white people not reading the guy who wrote that statement is an attack on white people, but not in the way your racism interprets it.
oh, and i don't want to be bearer of bad news as opposed to good news: but the guys who write the bible? not white. no worries. you white people never read that book anyway.
and who is Claribel off to marry at the end of The Tempest? hint: someone very unpleasing to white people.
not that you ever read Shakespeare or Chaucer or Austen either.
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:57 utc | 24
rjb1.5 | September 01, 2022 at 21:57
nothing could please the French more than Shakespeare being banned for how racist he is.
it's astonishing how people accept this kind of stuff as an attack on "white people."
Dear Chaucer, what is a 'white person'? are Normans white?
the point is to poison people's minds. Well done Scorpion and PCR. we'll not let the Tories steal our white culture from us!
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 22:02 utc | 25
pretzelattack | Sep 1 2022 21:41 utc | 22
for the 2nd time, someone else is posting under my i.d. but they do not appear to have done so on this page.
but nice. nice comment. i quoted from one of the most popular rock albums ever, but what is in your mind is real nice. pretzel, do you think it's all right?
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 22:09 utc | 26
rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 22:09 utc | 29
sorry, someone is abusing i.d.s, incl perhaps also Scorpion's, definitely pretzelattack's. someone who probably got tired running his Ford F2500's engine and terrifying the squirrels and birds and decided to pollute another environment.
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 22:17 utc | 27
anti-spiegel.ru - report on Baerbock comments confirmed:
Baerbock made the statement at a panel discussion at the “ Forum 2000 Conference ” in Prague, which runs from August 31 to September 2.Baerbock said there :
“I promise the people of Ukraine: We will stand by you as long as you need us. I want to deliver, regardless of what my German voters think, I want to deliver for the people of Ukraine. And that's why it's important for me to always be open and clear: Every measure I take, I want to be very clear about that, will last as long as Ukraine needs me. We are now on the verge of winter and that is when we as democratic politicians are called upon. People will take to the streets and say: 'We can't pay our energy prices!' And I will say, 'Yes, I know and we will help with social measures.' But I don't want to say: 'Okay, then let's stop the sanctions against Russia.' We will stand by Ukraine and that means the sanctions will remain in place in winter"
Baerbock openly puts maintaining the sanctions above the interests of the people in Germany and above the will of their voters. This makes it clear why the German "quality media" did not report on it.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:19 utc | 28
Cont’d from S | Sep 1 2022 21:26 utc | 19
And what are the results of Soros funding the teaching of “historical truth” in the Ukraine?
Putin says he was shocked by a story about teaching of history in the Ukraine (RIA Novosti, September 1, 2022 — in Russian)
Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about teaching of history in the Ukraine, he said that children from Donbass did not know that the Crimean Bridge existed and thought it was a fake.“Yesterday I talked with the Minister of Education, Sergey Sergeyevich Kravtsov, he was in Donetsk and other territories. He told me yesterday—excuse me, I opened my mouth [in disbelief — S]! Schoolchildren did not know the Crimean Bridge exists. They thought it was a fake,” Putin said at Talking About What’s Important open lesson.
He also noted that many schoolchildren in those territories didn’t even know that Russia and the Ukraine had been part of the same state. “They didn’t even know that the Ukraine and Russia had been part of a united state—the Soviet Union. They simply don’t know about it. That’s how everything was taught to them,” Putin said.
Posted by: S | Sep 1 2022 22:29 utc | 29
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 21:57 utc | 27
Obviously you didn't read the whole article.
And you didn't understand my comment.
No matter...
From anti-spiegel.ru reported in August but worth the time to consider.
Is Putin in the same boat as Schwab's WEF & Co?
This is a methodical response to Ernst Wolff who considers Putin to be part of the club. And it is much more than that.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:39 utc | 31
From anti-spiegel.ru reported in August but worth the time to consider.
Is Putin in the same boat as Schwab's WEF & Co?
This is a methodical response to Ernst Wolff who considers Putin to be part of the club. And it is much more than that.
(apologies for tiny url but the goblins keep eating my post)
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:44 utc | 32
Whether there is any concerted "anti-white" movement of any importance I will leave for someone else to prove rather than simply assert.
However, as bevin alludes above, the systems in place that are only (relatively) recently being turned against lower middle class and poor whites are those same systems designed from the outset to marginalize, criminalize and eliminate blacks, Hispanics and the larger working class including poor whites. This has been going on since slavery and the early union busting days. The War on (some) Drugs, which didn't just start in earnest with Nixon, and the War on Terra, have given the ruling class the tools they need in the modern age to surveil, catalog, infiltrate and criminalize what can only be described as what's left of the Left in the USA and UK. That is to say, the real working class - the gig workers, the Starbucks baristas, the Amazon warehouses, and those propertyless indebted and unhoused individuals who have the gall to show their faces in public to the capitalist bourgeoisie. A colony in a nation, if you will. One to be subjugated but more importantly turned against one another along culture war schisms and other useless nonsense, which is the very crux of the so-called war on white people.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 1 2022 23:19 utc | 33
Again: I say there is a deliberate anti-white campaign and I also say it is a VERY bad thing!
Scorpion | Sep 1 2022 21:46 utc | 25
oh no, the Tories are coming for white culture! Can the feats of Western culture survive another Churchill????
the first mistake is the idea that economic elites are preservers of or even have the tiniest concern about cultural excellence and that such excellence as they represent has some bearing on national or cultural "accomplishments". oh, as vehicles of competitive display they do have "artistic" interests, but today that means spending outrageous sums for cultural artifacts, not patronage of ongoing cultural production. Beethoven doesn't survive today because the "cultural elites" love even a little of the old Ludwig Van. A Beyonce-inspired Renaissance is much, much more their thing.
unless Disney's 'multiverse of madness' counts as some kind of milestone of aesthetic achievement.
cultural Philistinism is triumphant. PCR is just whining about the gaudy, fiberglass parade marching in ovation over the corpse of bard-dom. no wonder he was part of Reaganism. He fit right in with President Jellybean, who, like Trump, was managed by a CIA director.
oh, and whiteness and race don't exist. so every syllable flowing from such concerns is already utter bullshit. where's my white toilet paper to wipe this white culture off my brain hole? maybe the Wife of Bath has experience in such matters...
you are running your mouth about these things and the necessity of received authorities, ars longa and all that, so you must have some experience on your life's pilgramage with the Wife of Bath?
no? well, don't let that stop you! if Jane Austen listened to people like PCR, she never would have written a word. and PCR would never advocate making opera affordable for the masses. Let them eat Cake. I hear Korn and Hole are looking to tour together...
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 23:25 utc | 34
rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 23:25 utc | 36
PCR doesn't even believe in public education! oh god, what a retard. racist moron needs something to fight about.
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 23:33 utc | 35
I don't envy b of late. The sockpuppeteers are out in full force.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 1 2022 23:34 utc | 36
One to be subjugated but more importantly turned against one another along culture war schisms and other useless nonsense, which is the very crux of the so-called war on white people.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 1 2022 23:19 utc | 35
Well said. The 'war on white people' is a manufactured 'culture war schism.' (The most interesting question, therefore, being who is waging that war and why?) But that doesn't mean it isn't a war. Also it's working! Because if you even point out that it's happening it's regarded as proof that you are a 'white supremacist.' And that article by PCR - the bottom part of it - listed many different universities deliberately marginalizing or essentially burying traditional western/white culture and civilization.
People can't think straight about this stuff. Not saying I can either. The entire US landscape is so gonzo-loco at this point I don't know if straight thinking is possible any more.
When Dubai was being developed as a special economic zone, something which in only 25 years has greatly succeeded they realized that Sharia law wouldn't work so they researched and determined that British Common Law was best, hired several British judges to train their own judges, and then enjoyed great success. Singapore and Hong Kong use similar law I believe.
For an interesting and not too long interview about this and other issues (involving colonization) I recommend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH63RABGK6w in which Jordan Peterson interviews a fascinating African woman who is well up on all these things.
Ironically now we have people living in Common Law jurisdictions in which things like democracy and freedom of speech were developed, in which slavery was finally outlawed are now being attacked as racially evil thanks to many of those same things they created namely freedom of speech and respect for all as equal.
It's fine. When a people become weak they also become prey. But I betcha if all the horrible white people and their ghastly 'fascist, colonialist' culture has been destroyed in Amerika that it will not be a much better place. I am glad I will not live long enough to see it but I fear for the future of my son and grandchildren. Hopefully they will wise up and move to somewhere in the Russian Federation where white people are not demonized and where most of the countries are doing well and don't have all these manufactured self-destructive issues to deal with.
no? well, don't let that stop you! if Jane Austen listened to people like PCR, she never would have written a word. and PCR would never advocate making opera affordable for the masses. Let them eat Cake. I hear Korn and Hole are looking to tour together...
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 1 2022 23:25 utc | 36
Just as you clearly don't understand a word I write, neither can I understand a word you write. Every single sentence in every single paragraph a total mystery. Though I confess it seems somewhat ugly and hostile. Whatever turns you on...
But we are not discussing anything so that will be it from me: over and out!
Posted by: james | Sep 1 2022 21:41 utc
I don't trust politicians any further than I can throw the lot of them, BUT politicians like to get re-elected. Trudy's crowd won't be. Going forward, Poilievre's Cons better take the lessons from Joe Who and how
Canadians regard the most hated PM's in Canadian history, Harper and Mulroney.
Did you miss the part where if the Trudeau/Freeland/Singh cabal is defeated, the WEF IMMEDIATELY LOSES THE CONTROL OVER CANADA THEY NOW HAVE? That is an INTERNATIONAL as well as domestic issue, so of interest to other MoA readers.
I'm not going to do the math for you, but all it takes is 15 NDP (or Lib) MPs to decide to vote non-confidence with the rest of the non-Liberal House. The Senate has no impact in a non-confidence motion.
I think Singh is already on thin ice with the NDP grassroots and backbenchers, and he thought handing Trudy these Demands was a nothing gesture (nudge nudge, wink wink), stalling the NDP upstarts and knowing Trudy would order the MSM to not even acknowledge it. It won't save him from being turfed soon, especially if we get the prompt election we deserve.
15 out of 183 to change sides(one seat is vacant).
I have no illusions that the Cons, even under Poilievre, will keep all their promises. But it costs them exactly ZERO to ensure the Trudeau Mandates never return in any form, for any reason. In fact it will keep the economy stronger by any measure, a plus for eventual re-election. The post-Trudy/Freeland Libs will have to convince Canadians that THEY will never do it again... sure, right... pull the other leg.
And soon the full cost to Canada and the world of Trudy/Freeland's part in the Ukie-nazi debacle will be on full display, a sticky mess that any sane politician will avoid being tarred with.
I personally would ban political parties period, but that's another rabbit hole for another day.
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 0:05 utc | 39
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2022 23:51 utc | 39
The woman interviewed has I think a common viewpoint among ex-African "entrepreneurs" , but she focuses on Britain's African colonies, which were few if any - at least compared to France, Belgium and Holland. Françafrique shares many parallels with the Monroe Doctrine and continues in Africa.
Example: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/8/17/the-colonial-origins-of-extractivism-in-africa
In a surprise to nobody, the CIA - in cahoots with the British and French "intelligence" services also plays a major role.
France maintains a crazy hold over those and other north African countries including Libya. It was France who led the calls (and participated equally) in Obama's destruction of Libya, which at the time - while small, population wise - was one of the richest (and most 'socialist') countries on the continent. They dared to try freeing themselves from France and the Franc.
Interestingly Magatte Wade is free market Chicago School preacher who lives in prosperous Austin, TX and has apparently built a nice profitable advertising consulting career.
With respect to post- or neo-colonial Africa, the endemic corruption of their own rulers was more than encouraged by the colonial European powers. Only the most corrupt anti-communists/anti-socialist elites in their respective countries were *allowed* to rule with relatively less fear of being assassinated by their European betters. For an interesting documentary on the matter, check this out. It's fascinating, I promise. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9352780/
Also, see USA-Haiti relations for a sordid tale of post-colonialism. It continues to this day.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2022 0:06 utc | 40
@17 bevin
Your immediate assertion that browns have contributed more than any other section of the population to labor is an incredibly moot and misleading declarative.
Browns until recently were always relegated to labor because they were not capable of contributing to higher callings in professions. It took generations of bringing Africans along through homebound education that they have been able to contribute to western civ in more specialized professions.
Basically, you are just saying that cats have the most kittens.
Utterly meaningless.
But it does show that you are interested in typical Bolshevik-fashion of instigating racial animosity.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 0:06 utc | 41
To grasp the spirit of Medicine’s easily done:
You study the great and little world, until,
In the end you let it carry on
Just as God wills.
Useless to roam round, scientifically:
Everyone learns only what he can:
The one who grasps the Moment fully,
He’s the proper man.
You’re quite a well-made fellow,
You’re not short of courage too,
And when you’re easy with yourself,
Others will be easy with you.
Study, especially, female behaviour:
Their eternal aches and woes,
All of the thousand-fold,
Rise from one point, and have one cure.
And if you’re half honourable about it
You shall have them in your pocket.
A title first: to give them comfort you
Have skills that far exceed the others,
Then you’re free to touch the goods, and view
What someone else has prowled around for years.
Take the pulse firmly, you understand,
And then, with sidelong fiery glance,
Grasp the slender hips, in haste,
To find out whether she’s tight-laced...
Grey, dear friend, is all theory,
And green the golden tree of life...
Just follow the ancient text, and my mother the snake, too:
And then your likeness to God will surely frighten you!
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clubbing women over the head only gets a hominid so far. even a poor devil knows that, though I doubt a Raygun nomenclatura does.
it would be hilarious to listen to PC Roberts explain the birth of Hephaestus. these culture warriors need someone to make their armor, though they sure as Hades hellforge do not believe in an economic order in which a disabled child has a chance to survive. How will a sooty Hephaestus ascend Olympus after being cast out, with the whiteness warriors keeping the lame god in black face out? no commie minimum wage for you, Vulcan! certainly no smiling Aphrodite, either.
Study me how to please the eye indeed
By fixing it upon a fairer eye,
Who dazzling so, that eye shall be his heed
And give him light that it was blinded by.
Study is like the heaven's glorious sun
That will not be deep-search'd with saucy looks:
Small have continual plodders ever won
Save base authority from others' books
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 2 2022 0:06 utc | 42
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 0:06 utc | 43
Sorry to say, but this is utter nonsense without providing sources:
Browns until recently were always relegated to labor because they were not capable of contributing to higher callings in professions. It took generations of bringing Africans along through homebound education that they have been able to contribute to western civ in more specialized professions.
There were no specialized programs or generations of anything needed to bring African-American (that is, Americans who emigrated from Africa in the modern era) up to speed as contributors to society. They are, in fact, equal to or higher than Asian Americans in terms of family income and other metrics that I'm sure underlie what you're talking about.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2022 0:09 utc | 43
Again: I say there is a deliberate anti-white campaign and I also say it is a VERY bad thing!
Scorpion | Sep 1 2022 21:46 utc | 25
these are your words, right? I understand you fully. there's no mystery about the nonsense you are spouting.
can't keep up? well don't let that stop you from running your mouth about Western culture and the threat to "white people."
i'm jewish btw so kindly go fuck yourself.
Posted by: rjb1.5 | Sep 2 2022 0:12 utc | 44
@Scorpion,
I'm sure you'd like the documentary (as bizarre as it is - and the director's sense of humor is both endearing and off-putting in equal measure) that I linked above. Regardless of your stance on any of this, it's a crazy story. Here's a user review from IMDB that I think provides a decent summary, although I still encourage watching it if you've got some time on your hands one evening.
While his reporting sometimes comes across as performance art, journalist Mads Brügger ("The Saint Bernard Syndicate") has gone beyond satire in his searing documentary Cold Case Hammarskjöld. Winner of the best directing award at Sundance, it is a powerful film that conveys an important and disturbing message about the extent of colonialism and racism in Africa. Described by Brügger as "a project of titanic proportions, full of doubts, questions and moments of desperation," the film is an inquiry into the death of United Nations Secretary-General Dag Hammarskjöld, killed in a plane crash in 1961 in the British protectorate of Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia) on route to the Congo.Willing to take on powerful interests in Europe who stood to gain economically from colonialism, the Secretary-General, known in Sweden as "the lord of peace," was attempting to negotiate a cease-fire between UN forces and the breakaway state of Katanga, widely considered a front for Belgian mining interests. The cause of the crash was attributed to pilot error but is considered by many to have been an assassination. The first part of the film deals with Brügger and Swedish private investigator Göran Björkdahl as they examine the circumstances surrounding the crash.
A cross between Michael Moore and Werner Herzog, Brügger tells us at the outset with tongue-in-cheek that Cold Case Hammarskjöld could either be "the world's biggest murder mystery or the world's most idiotic conspiracy theory" (though it may actually be a little of both). Separated into sections announced by yellow stickies plastered on the wall, Brügger dictates his story to two different Congolese secretaries who record it on a vintage typewriter. The two investigators initially discover from photographs that Hammarskjöld's bloodied corpse had a playing card: The ace of spades, wedged into his collar, which someone tells them is the calling card of the CIA, but that is the last we hear about it.
Ludicrously, Brügger and Björkdahl attempt to dig up the wreckage of the plane with supplies that include two shovels, a metal detector, pith helmets (a symbol of 19th century Western imperialism), and two cigars, ostensibly to celebrate after completing the job, though Björkdahl claims that he does not smoke. Brügger undertakes the project "dressed all in white like some fair bride," mimicking the appearance of a mysterious man from South Africa later deeply implicated in events. The diggers have to cut the enterprise short, however, because Brügger says that he feels nauseous but it soon dawns on us that we are being played.
The play turns deadly, however, when a man by the name of Keith Maxwell surfaces as the one who ordered Hammarskjöld's plane to be shot down by a Belgian mercenary. When a video from South Africa's post- Apartheid Truth and Reconciliation Commission is discovered, we hear about "Operation Celeste," a nine-page memo detailing plans for executing Hammarskjöld that may or may not be legitimate. On the memo's letterhead, however, is the name of the South African Institute of Maritime Research (SAIMR). Apparently, Maxwell (said by his wife to be insane) used the organization as a cover to carry out his clandestine mission.
During a period of six years, Brügger and Björkdahl interview former members of SAIMR to little benefit, but are eventually rewarded when they locate a surprisingly talkative witness, Alexander Jones, who claims that SAIMR was a mercenary group supported by the CIA and Britain's MI6. The story becomes even more chilling when Jones tells the investigators (without any evidence other than his word) that the goal of SAIMR was to eradicate black people in Africa by injecting them with the HIV virus. Though, in a New York Times article by Matt Apuzzo from January 27, 2019, we are told by scientists that this was not possible, the fact that some thought it was desirable is in itself deplorable.
In 2015, the UN reopened the Hammarskjöld investigation and a United Nations panel concluded that there was "persuasive evidence that Hammarskjöld's aircraft was subjected to some form of attack or threat." Given what we know about Western involvement in regime change such as the overthrow of Socialist President Miguel Allendé of Chile, Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran, and Jacobo Árbenz in Guatemala, Cold Case Hammarskjöld raises serious doubts about the official story. In discussing the film, Brügger said, "I want the audience to feel: I've never seen anything like this before!" My feelings exactly.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2022 0:14 utc | 45
Nemesis
African slaves were imported to America to work. They worked and many were worked to death. After having been 'freed' and after the brief experiment of reconstruction, once more the African descended population of the United States was returned to a state of compulsory work. Those who did not work were imprisoned and set to work.
Of course, the blacks being outnumbered greatly by white immigrants it would be idle to say that they contributed more in terms of work than the whites. And in some ways the white workers suffered conditions as bad even worse than the enslaved had.
These facts were recognised by a large number, perhaps a majority of southern whites in the aftermath of the Civil War. In some states North Carolina being one a political alliance between populists and black former slaves held power and won elections. They were turned out by a military assisted revolt inspired by FDR's mentor Josephus Daniels.
The Bolsheviks, as any study of C20th Southern history will show, far from seeking race wars actually built strong alliances between working class communities of all colours.
Race hatred is and always was promoted in the United States by the enemies of socialism, many of them hiding their fascist ideas behind the disfigured face of Christianity. They preach privilege and social injustice and call it spirituality.
Posted by: bevin | Sep 2 2022 0:20 utc | 46
@45 tom
Sorry, I don't understand your post.
@48 bevin
You are a slippery one, bevin, that is for sure. But I am here watching you.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 0:28 utc | 47
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 0:28 utc | 49
We may have been talking past one another. I was only making reference to racist notions (and to be fair, nothing you wrote directly invoked such things) that Africans are somehow inferior in terms of their ability to 'contribute' to Western society. There are plenty of very well off African immigrants to the US and UK who needed no special white man's training to become such. If that isn't relevant to what you and bevin are talking about w/r/t the Browns, disregard. However, it's true that blacks in the US have contributed mightily to the labor and civil rights movements over the years. There is nothing endemically corrupt or anti-white in their endeavors.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2022 0:33 utc | 48
Most white people believe they are evil and deserve to be marginalized. Most white people now believe that black and brown people need to be empowered and given preference. Many white people believe the world would be a better place if they were no more. This is the result of a concerted propaganda campaign that has been ongoing for some time. And again: pointing out that there is an anti-white campaign has nothing to do with being anti black or brown. However, part of the anti-white campaign is deliberately favoring black and brown over white in various jurisdictions whose AG's have been put there thanks to Soros funding.
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2022 21:41 utc | 21
Sorry, Scorpion - I just don't see it. If indeed there is such bias going on in universities, well, stay away from it, the way we should stay away from mainstream media till they get their priorities straight. Shun them! We don't have to patronize them, and most people (now I'm saying it) don't, because they can't.
But they can pick up a book; they can go see children perform Shakespeare -- in the US that is. I know because with just home schooling my grandkids are memorizing whole plays and performing them, have been for years! And if they are doing it, so are many other kids who are being homeschooled these days - there's a whole lot of that going on!! I wouldn't say 'most' but it could be!
As to whiteness, I think that's poppycock; it has no reality. Everyone's mixed race, everyone! If you believe evolutionary science, and even if you don't. I can trace back, and I love it, to one of the first tribes to paddle their way down to New Zealand - through my grandmother who looked pakeha but was raised maori, spoke maori, and was the sweetest human being it has been my privilege to know!
Sure there's discrimination but also there isn't! Saint Paul says hold fast to the good -- whatever has goodness. We are getting very negative here, and I'm not just thinking about the death of Gorbachev, but it's right in the midst of this traumatic time that his death arouses the same unreal negative animosity. Right or wrong - he's no longer among us! He's facing what comes next, let him go in peace!
And if the so-called white person is being discriminated against, well let him or her recognize that many have faced such discrimination nobly and been the better for that. We shall not lose our culture - it belongs to all of us - read a bit of Walt Whitman for that! Our culture is to delight in all our antecedents for what good they were able to do, each man, woman or child! Amazingly, most have done something good in their lives; celebrate that!!!
Sorry to rant.
Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 0:53 utc | 49
Also, see USA-Haiti relations for a sordid tale of post-colonialism. It continues to this day.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 2 2022 0:06 utc | 42
THank you for your reply. That's a good catch about the lady, I didn't check and am frankly surprised she lives in the People's Republic of Austen!! Though I got the impression that she still works with African business development projects in Africa.
I liked her point early on about how we have to get beyond talking about the evils of the past, specifically colonialism because what is needed is to move forward and then she provided examples of moving forward.
Because if you just keep telling stories of bad deeds in the past there is no end to it. And as she also - rightly - pointed out, humans have been conquering, enslaving, colonizing and genociding each other since time began. It's true. Post-industrial revolutionary Europeans are in the cross-hairs these days partly because they are not tyrannical enough to prevent such blowback but mainly because they were the last ones. In a couple of centuries - unless Eurasia finally succeeds at creating a successful and moral civilization (a rare but not unprecedented thing) - our descendants will probably be dealing with new ones.
My initial rant was in response to someone asking how Amerika was going to survive and I jokingly was suggesting that it wouldn't because it is being deliberately destroyed and my remarks about white people weren't made with any particular racial love or hate just reporting on what has been going on which IS a concerted campaign to demoralize white people throughout the West. PCR's article which at the end cited many different universities' curriculum policies of late demonstrates a clear campaign to undermine the culture. In that context I am/was suggesting that, given this sort of thing ongoing - and there is far more than I briefly mentioned of course - that no, I don't think the country is going to survive.
Maybe most of the people, but at some point there is going to be a very, very different Amerika. Either Deep State run Amerika is overthrown or they prevail and create a tyranny. The old Republic, which was always a bit of a pretense, is no more.
I suspect things are going to get very, very ugly. For all people of all colors, though again it remains to be seen if ultimately there is a good or bad outcome.
Biden's speech tonight was extraordinary. Politically very skillful since he might have prevented a Republican win in November by peeling away 25% of their vote to the RINO-type Republicans who don't like chaos or fighting. But in so doing he has set the country in two for sure. I suspect they are agitating for violence this summer, they want riots and then they will administer crack-downs making it that much harder for MAGA types to vote without fear of social ostracism, jail, IRS seizures and so forth.
It is already getting very, very ugly.
Again: the country won't survive. The old normal is gone forever.
Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 0:53 utc | 51
"Sorry, Scorpion - I just don't see it. If indeed there is such bias going on in universities, well, stay away from it.."
Did you read the article? Do you think it was fake news? If not, how can you not see it? And of course there is evidence of similar demoralizing stuff now for decades. Including things like toxic masculinity courses and so forth. Endless examples. I don't understand why you are telling me to 'stay away from it.' My comment was about why Amerika is not going to survive. I don't go to universities and nor do I live in Amerika. I am away from it! The comment wasn't about me.
"As to whiteness, I think that's poppycock; it has no reality."
Of course. However, if a large number of people start hating white people then it is a real phenomenon whether or not it should be.
"And if the so-called white person is being discriminated against, well let him or her recognize that many have faced such discrimination nobly and been the better for that."
You are voicing spiritual advice - and with the sort of good heart you always bring to these discussions. But I was talking about a widespread political phenomenon involving deliberate sabotage not personal spiritual stuff. Biden's speech tonight was empty theater on the one hand but he is trying to get tens of thousands of people arrested this summer most likely and ruin their lives. At which point maybe they should practice forgiveness and renunciation but that doesn't make the intention to break the country apart and ruin many lives a good thing.
"Sorry to rant." I don't know what the barfly business is all about apart from the website description, but seems to me a certain amount of ranting is fine as long as it makes some fellow barflies think and enjoy responding.
All best and as always thank you for your lovely post!
fyi
another one bites the dust
this is one of the few times in decades, too, that I have read a news article that uses that old word 'buggery'
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/saint-kitts-ban-gay-sex-struck-down-by-caribbean-regional-court-2022-08-30/
Saint Kitts ban on gay sex struck down by Caribbean regional court
A Caribbean regional court has ruled that a Saint Kitts and Nevis prohibition on gay sex is unconstitutional because it violates the right to privacy, striking down one of a handful of bans on same-sex intercourse that still exist in the region.
.....The Eastern Caribbean Supreme Court hears disputes involving members of the Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States, which includes six independent countries and three overseas British territories.
Buggery laws remain on the books in a number of Caribbean nations including Jamaica and Barbados. Though they are rarely enforced, gay rights activists say that eliminating them would help ease pervasive homophobia.
The Eastern Caribbean Supreme Court ruled against two portions of the Offences Against the Person Act, adopted in the dual-island nation in 1873, which called for up to ten years imprisonment for having or attempting to have gay sex.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2022 2:15 utc | 52
Bevin,
I grew up in the white working class in the Bronx. The one time there I was held up and had to surrender my wallet was at the demand of a black criminal.
Later, when I was a graduate student in the Boston area, another black miscreant demanded I surrender to him what valuables I was carrying. This time, because I wasn't sure what a graduate student was carrying would satisfy him, I chose to run away. Fortunately, I escaped with my life.
Those are the two times I have experienced that threatened my life, in both cases from blacks.
Posted by: Lysias | Sep 2 2022 2:23 utc | 53
Looks like with Biden's speech today they are moving in more on the domestic threat, being cockblocked abroad by Russia and to a lesser extent China.
Russia has done their part, now it is up to us domestic-extremists and fascists to tip the scales and take down our rampaging federal behemoth.
You can do this through myriad ways:
Pull your kids from indoctrination centers
Boycott totally products not made in the U.S.A.
Boycott Israel completely and talk to your friends and family about the need to disassociate ourselves from the zionists
Laugh and keep a calm mind and enjoy the warmth of your family. Have sex with your spouse, spend time explaining the world to your children
Don't even look at any media that comes from their demented mind
Train yourself in firearms and be willing to die
Don't take their vaccines
Go to Church
Take your cash from banks and keep it yourself even at risk of loss
Buy precious metals and keep assets
Find ways to avoid paying taxes so your money doesn't end up in the assistance of the war machine
Read the Bible and the Tao Te Ching.
Sorry, in a mood tonight because the writing is on the wall and Biden's speech is the priming event for a coming crackdown.
First prez in history to threaten his own people by bragging that they would need an F-15 to come after them.
You POS!
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 2:53 utc | 54
@ farm ecologist | Sep 1 2022 21:48 utc | 26
thanks! i fully concur! see my next comment to oc..
@ Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 0:05 utc | 41
thanks oc... i am considering voting for max bernier.... at this point its the best i can do short of not voting... as for the wef - they are just a front for the ongoing kleptocracy as represented by the financial system we presently live under... to get rid of the wef, we need to see what a nightmare the folks who are in control have already made of canada... checked r/e prices lately?? you want to blame that on wef?? the narcissists and pychopaths, etc have been embedded long before we heard about the wef... we have a problem and it extends beyond the boundaries of canada.. the plague on the so called countries of the west - nato and etc is brought to us by these same financial ponzi scheme players... i think wef is a latecomer to the game, or it is another name for these same pychos.. trust me.. your poohleyay fellow ain't gonna be any different.... another pretty face and empty cheap suit...
Posted by: james | Sep 2 2022 3:30 utc | 55
@ Scorpion | Sep 2 2022 1:37 utc
It is already getting very, very ugly.Again: the country won't survive. The old normal is gone forever.
Goodbye, frying pan; hello, fire.
Posted by: majoab | Sep 2 2022 5:58 utc | 56
And soon the full cost to Canada and the world of Trudy/Freeland's part in the Ukie-nazi debacle will be on full display, a sticky mess that any sane politician will avoid being tarred with.
I personally would ban political parties period, but that's another rabbit hole for another day.
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 0:05 utc | 41
Sane politicians. Like buffaloes, there were times when they were crossing the continent in huge, thundering herds. Like buffaloes, now they may be tourist attractions that you can see driving toward signs like "Welcome to Vermont, home of the last 2 living sane politicians" with 2 slashed and handwritten 1 written next to it (I do not keep good track on the recent events on American political scene, so the sign and the existence of the one last sane politician in Vermont is a hypothetical to make an example).
Not so long time ago, I was younger, more naive and less jaded, so I had thoughts like "When Biden comes, he may restore JCOA and free Assange who rots on American request because it would be an opportunistic, sane thing to do. And even if he is in deep neurological decline, he has advisors who are not".
Nevertheless, Canada has some freely roaming buffaloes, so perhaps there are few sane politicians there as well...
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 2 2022 6:20 utc | 57
4,900,000 broke immigrants since Biden's inauguration except most are not broke: they are given debit cards with $800 USD a month income. Etc.
Scorpion | Sep 1 2022 20:34 utc | 14
Sad, amusing, and tragic at the same time.
Amerika, to hide its shameless DJT ways. Relies on the release of skew the view of 2% of the truth on a daily basis./s
There exists a somewhat troublesome love-hate both the overt and often open overwhelming racist bigotry of the Union of the Soviet States of Amerika white obese citizens. Also and further north in the tar oil sands rich emirate of Canuckistan. A former colony of a failed empire that actually was the victor in the war of 1812. Amusingly in spite of the loss of the Navies loss of the flagship gunboat USS President in 1815. After the peace treaty was signed. Amerika still proclaims "We won".(Scratches head) lol
Often since the 1820s. Amerika sent various recolonization ventures, death squads, and slavers down south to exploit all the southern peons, resource theft, and new generation exploitation of cheap indentured expendable slave laborers!
To no one's surprise. Just below the surface in both the Oil tar-rich Emirate of Canuckistan and the USSA hegemony. Both have fragile air/toxic oil-based currency economics. Rely heavily on the 17 million plus undocumented southern Hispanics. Forced north because of the USSA death/slave recruitment squads rampaging unchecked down south. The killing fields down south are still fully active today, as we speak.
These unfortunate new generations of southern Spanish/Portuguese colored slaves. Working often in dangerous lethal environments. Sprayed with toxic chemicals in the USSA/Canuckistan super-size-me GHGs polluting agriculture industries. Heavily abused in all the service industries. Where the delicate drug-addicted northern obese white racist bigots do not wish to work in the demeaning physically demanding hard labor low-paid unskilled key jobs. Working twelve to sixteen-hour shifts with restricted rest breaks. If paid at all. May receive between two to five air dollars per hour.
Such is life in the doomed-to-fail hegemonies of North Amerika. Without cheap southern indentured illegal slave laborers. Life would just be too hard and too expensive.
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 2 2022 7:03 utc | 58
In other news.
It appears that a majority of Tesla car owners. Are incapable of reading the handy car users' owner's operating manual.
Either that. Or, the hired dumb&dumber Norwengish translator omitted key chapters. On how to winterize your Tesla. For use in Northern subzero winter temperatures.
Reading is a luxury/s
Bonus points: Have you too read your new car/truck owner's manual?
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Sep 2 2022 7:20 utc | 59
Paul Craig Roberts:
"It was not Washington that collapsed the Soviet Union. It was the Politburo’s arrest of the President of the Soviet Union."
Funny because Gorbachev himself thought The Chernobyl disaster ended the USSR - the enormous economic costs blew apart the Soviet economy..........Belarus is still paying for thyroid cancer victims - Ukraine spends 7% GDP on consequences - Belarus estimates total costs of $235 billion..............
Removing a figurehead lie Gorbachev was not decisive in that the Politburo is the powerbase as akin to the Privy Council in England - Politburo was where fusion of State and Party took place NOT as in USA in person of President. The highest political office was always General Secretary of CPSU and that is where Gorbachev was displaced
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 2 2022 8:19 utc | 60
For all those still enjoying the British Monarchy and its imbecile government. Some cheery advice from the aussies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyt3Op2dTc0
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 2 2022 8:33 utc | 61
RE: US divisiveness.
This: https://youtu.be/3qSmRoVo5AA (Biden: Remarks on the soul of the nation)
Is the scariest speech from an American politician that I've heard in a very long time. Aesthetics from V for Vendetta or Man in the High Castle, and doubling down on demonizing a large chunk of the American population.
Posted by: dask | Sep 2 2022 9:20 utc | 62
What a mess! I have no intention of entering into any of the tired old debates, especially when the dialog consists of a mixture of evidence free assertions and/or irrelevant personal anecdotes.
However this thread should be preserved in aspic as a classic example of the risks associated with jumping into a melding of 'left' and 'right' without carefully consider potential pitfalls.
In backward cultures such as amerika's this melding between a few well-informed lefties and mobs of indoctrinated from birth, believe whatever convenient bulldust they're told fascists, can only end up down one cul-de-sac, the one which A Hitler's nazi party finished up on The Night of Long Knives.
We can easily observe in this thread where some avowed leftists tread too lightly when discussing matters that comprise some of the basic tools which our rulers have always used to oppress workers, lest the relationship between two vastly differing modes of thought be put at risk. So what, surely this is a position that no left-leaning amerikan individual can ever sacrifice since ruling class' indoctrination has brainwashed orders of magnitude more amerikans into following self defeating/sabotaging ideals than amerikans who resisted that indoctrination to develop a view of life which emphasises the rights of all humans.
Remember that the 'night of the long knives' happened when the leadership of the Nazis, under pressure from its aristocratic donors, decided to appease those donors whilst ridding themselves of a pesky problem whereby working class party members who by way of their long term membership and concomitant suitability for leadership roles within the party kept causing problems for the Nazi Party elite by embarrassing them by raising issues about policies that advanced socialist ideals that were 'still on the books' long after the nazi party elite had eschewed 'em.
Remnant of leftist thinking who held senior positions were butchered and their followers were tossed into concentration camps by the 'anything for power' nazi politicians.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 2 2022 9:22 utc | 63
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 18:58 utc | 1
Thanks for your comment, especially your observation on the centrality of Palestine in the domestic affairs of the captive nations, including Canada. It is also evident in Australia and NZ.
I never cease to be amazed how self described 'conservatives' can support the scofflaw murderous bandit state, in constant defiance of international law. Likewise, how many self described 'progressives' are also under its ugly thrall.
The day will come when the thrall is broken.
I appreciate knowing how Canadian politics works. I come to MoA learn and to make the occasional comment. Barflies can learn much from b and other barflies. Bravo, knowledge is no burden. If it wasn't for this site we would be in Ignorance.
Australia and NZ are in chaos and are broken. Things have changed forever for the worse.
Posted by: Paul | Sep 2 2022 9:33 utc | 64
Australia and NZ are in chaos and are broken. Things have changed forever for the worse.
Posted by: Paul | Sep 2 2022 9:33 utc | 67
Indeed, Paul, from a distance it does seem so. I have family both places and covid has hit them hard as they attempted to follow the US lead instead of isolating as they ought to have done and taking the best course - but being broken, there can be a way forward if the countries can do so with the courage they have shown in the past.
They don't have to cut ties with the US and/or Britain. Plenty of sympathetic voices both places. I had respect for their leadership (I'm speaking of NZ now as my home country) through the non-nuclear years, but came to a parting of ways with family there on discussions about the US only 'recently' - that is, as this ceentury began.
I made the distinction then between the good public school education my youngest children were receiving when we were down there in the '90s and what we returned to in the US - vastly better for them down there, so that I often thought I had been mistaken to return here. Still, what little they received stood them in good stead - I am glad they had that opportunity; I know it has been critical for them. And it taught me that kids are resilient, that as long as there is a 'next generation' there is great potential.
Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 9:54 utc | 65
Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 9:54 utc | 67
I recommend you read up on the 1976 sterling/IMF Crisis in UK during the Callaghan Government (he had just succeeded the elected Harold Wilson who stepped down 1975 - in fact we now know he had been diagnosed with onset of Alzheimers)
Especially the article by Mitchell and reference to Bernard Donoghue (Economics Adviser) who was tipped off by US Embassy in private meeting that British Treasury was in cahoots with US Treasury and circles in Germany to topple Labour Government and cut its public spending plans and wanted IMF to control matters and force privatisation in line with Washington Agenda.
It is interesting for the following reasons: (1) The Treasury imposed cuts on Capital Spending which meant no investment in new sewers, water pipes, telecommunications, highways, health, schools etc.
(2) It split the Labour Party and kept it out of power for 18 years.
(3) It brought Thatcher to power who now privatised public infrastructure and created gas generation for electricity which required a rigged Market to underwrite expensive gas-generation and closure of coal mines
(4) Privatised utilities were given an easy Regulator Ride to guarantee high profits which is why England now has water shortages from leaky pipes, and a disastrous dependence on gas instead of coal
The reason this is topical is that the inflation in 1975 was 25% because the Conservative regime under Edward Heath has expanded Credit to ride out the OPEC oil shock 1973 leaving the Labour regime after 1974 to carry the can.
Now after 12 years of Conservative regime UK has water crisis, energy crisis, huge debts, and prospects of currency crisis - Truss thinks of spending her way out just as in 1973......
Whereas Thatcher privatised yet had N Sea oil revenues after 1980 to create a tax cut boom and suck in imports as Britons leveraged consumption - now N Sea Oil and Gas is "fossil fuels" Non "Net-Zero" compliant and depleting rapidly.
So History repeats with Corbyn having been "removed" by Media/Intelligence Services and Starmer The Hopeless acting as deputy to Johnson - as from Tuesday it will probably be truss The Disastrous repeating errors of the past
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 2 2022 10:28 utc | 66
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=24221
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=33419
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 2 2022 10:32 utc | 67
G7 will put a price limit for Russian oil from Dec 5.
It should be fun to see how fast the price explodes since Russia said yesterday that they won't sell oil to anyone involved in setting price limits.
Posted by: rk | Sep 2 2022 10:34 utc | 68
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 2:53 utc | 54
I haven't yet read Biden's speech, NemesisCalling, but if it was as bad as you say, there will be a backlash on all fronts. Thinking persons do exist in this country, and many of them have been hardened by the realities we discuss here. It will not matter if things get appreciably worse; there is an inner core, educated or not, that eludes folk not living here, just as there was in that great country, Russia. Diverse as can be in ideology, but feet on the ground folk who long ago came to grips with cruel realities in this country. We may look foolishly optimistic but we have been in survival mode for a long time; we can bear with adversity. Sure, it's still a new place as regards tradition but it will be better off for being humbled, forced to start anew.
Biden is old. He had to lean on his wife even at the inauguration. With age, even the best of us falter, and I don't consider his youth to have been well spent. Still, I saw what happened to Eugene McCarthy as his mind faltered - and there are stronger influences today that are aging as well, the plutocrats among us. If there are any with good minds I don't know of them; I hope there are one or two.
I will differ with you on one thing: for citizens, guns are not the answer. But I like your list; we need more of that. We have had enough guns; plowshares is what we need more of as well.
Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2022 10:37 utc | 69
Here is a good review of journalism and current events by Alex Mitchell, a giant of Australian journalism.
I'll be buying a copy of his latest book when I recover from my stay in intensive care. I am never disappointed by Alex's books. Mountbatten should be sordid and juicy reading. Alex always provides the real story. anything less is a waste of time.
In this latest blog: North Queensland memories of WW1, Murdoch v Crikey, fast-moving events in Britain - and Tony Whitlam reviews Alex's book on Mountbatten:
http://cometherevolution.com.au/world-wars-media-wars-royal-family-wars/
Posted by: Paul | Sep 2 2022 10:55 utc | 70
#BaerbockRuecktritt the twitter tag in Germany for #ResignBaerbock has been the top hashtag on twitter since yesterday with over 41.5K Tweets. The German mainstream media is attempting to cover for their golden child claiming it is a Russian disinformation campaign. The 30 second video says exactly as the 2 minute video regardless of the media claiming otherwise. Because this statement was given in English, I assume that many Germans would be uncomfortable in their English and would believe what the media says..
The paint is off: (In German)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1WbI3in6r4
Posted by: rmml | Sep 2 2022 10:55 utc | 71
>> Boycott totally products not made in the U.S.A.
Huh? Don't you mean "Boycott everything made anywhere in Oceania?"
I've been doing this for years, to protest the war crime economy. I also quit work and relocated to where savings can hopefully sustain me. (If you prefer, consider "quiet quitting" instead. Still, prepare for unemployment and relocation.)
I am my own sanctions department. I conclude the system sucks and want little to do with it.
Posted by: Mr Boycott | Sep 2 2022 11:08 utc | 72
Watched the whole Biden speech. You should try. Even a quick look will give the visual setup and the tenor.
Heavily edited and produced. It happened on a soundstage, not live in Philly. There is no audience. The cuts from soundstage to location shot are blatant and amateur. Biden is drugged to the gills. The man is not capable of giving an energetic half hour speech but we are asked to believe this happened.
The Gates of Hell/Third Reich imagery is over the top and completely off the rails. This was result of long planning and major production work, no accident. The entire team who did this is completely.deranged.
The gist of the speech is very simple. "MAGA Republicans" are evil and destroying America. If you are not chapter and verse with Brandon you are a MAGA Republican and deserve to die. We are going to take steps to make that happen.
Biden is not an actor. The only note he has is angry old Irish man shaking his fist. It would all be pathetic were it not backed by the zombies of the Deep State. Five years back I'd have said rank and file Democrats would look at this, shake their heads, say it is time to send old Joe out to pasture. We will see a reaction to this, God only knows.
Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 2 2022 11:18 utc | 73
Baerbock openly puts maintaining the sanctions above the interests of the people in Germany and above the will of their voters. This makes it clear why the German "quality media" did not report on it.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:19 utc | 30
She reeks of a juvenile arrogance and contempt. (I took the trouble to watch her for a bit.) I cannot suppress a bit of sympathy for the commuppance that will be coming for her, a consummate tool.
I am my own sanctions department. I conclude the system sucks and want little to do with it.
Posted by: Mr Boycott | Sep 2 2022 11:08 utc | 74
Indeed. Thank you for saying that. Given that most of what is on offer is over-priced computer crap, it is no trouble to ignore it. Great for your wallet too.
Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 2 2022 11:21 utc | 74
Watched some belligerent bitch from Germany telling Germans to go fuck themselves; Germany will back Ukraine 100%.....leaving Germans hungry and frozen in the cold. You guys are fucked. Like, Really Fucked.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 2 2022 11:34 utc | 75
uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:44 utc | 34
Thanks for the links to Thomas Roper's articles about Baerbock's speech. I now understand how Baerbock, part of the German Government, could publicly show her disregard for the German electorate.
Posted by: cirsium | Sep 2 2022 11:41 utc | 76
Medvedev: "It's time to limit the price of Russia pipeline gas supplied from Russia to Europe" said auntie von der Leyen. It will be like with oil. There will simply be no Russian gas in Europe
Posted by: rk | Sep 2 2022 11:42 utc | 77
[email protected] is by far the safest form of protest, yet difficult to spread, surrounded by materialistic bastards that can't see past the end of their cell phone. But that is the answer to slaying the hegemon....kill the beast of Mammon...or cut a leg or two off, Russia seems to have chosen the arms.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 2 2022 12:08 utc | 78
Find ways to avoid paying taxes so your money doesn't end up in the assistance of the war machine. Read the Bible and the Tao Te Ching. Sorry, in a mood tonight because the writing is on the wall and Biden's speech is the priming event for a coming crackdown.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 2 2022 2:53 utc | 56
The thought crossed my mind on listening to it was that it follows on nicely from the recent raid of Mr. Trump's home and the FBI rifling through his wife's drawers.
Impeachment 1: nothing happened, no widespread response.
Widespread election theft: nothing happened apart from whining.
Impeachment 2: nothing happened.
Labelling Deplorables as Domestic terrorists: nothing happened.
Arrests of Deplorables put away without due process, some in solitary for more than a year: nothing happened.
Raid on Ex-President's and current GOP Party Leader's residence: nothing happened.
Speech by Biden labelling MAGA Republicans as enemies of the republic: we'll see but I betcha nothing happens.
This is frog boiling in real-time.
What is most amazing to me - amid a period of many such amazements since 2020 - is just how easy it seemingly is to get people to accept these things as a new normal, not to even question them. Even MAGA people are accepting them; they don't like them but they accept them. Stunning.
I have no idea what could or should be done. When a country is led by evil cabals bent on taking it over - or whatever it is they are bent on, I really don't know - there isn't all that much that the masses can do apart from revolt in confusion and despair once they have problems putting food on the table, which will be happening soon possibly it seems given all the foreshadowing of fertilizer shortages (and fires) and food processing facility fires and even petroleum processing fires not to mention no end of supply chain disruptions and perhaps even permanent deficiencies once Chinese sanctions kick-in with Taiwan hostilities now building this week.
And then if they protest, paid thugs will turn it into a riot as per Jan 6 template and they will find themselves getting shot at and arrested by their own sons and daughters in military uniforms. And then the evil people succeed in establishing a new form of authority. Or something.
If that speech had been given pre-covid the President would have had to resign or be impeached immediately. But it is post-covid so all bets are off. It seems that the mass formation stuff is essentially correct although the reality is more subtle and insidious than the good Professor's dry list of criteria; for the people who are making it happen have been tinkering with such things for decades now, so they know the subject matter far better than he.
I hate to write this, let alone think it, but am beginning to suspect that some of the depopulation stories have heard over the years and discounted as too silly are beginning to sound like they just might be true. Because what is ongoing is clearly demented, divorced from human sanity and goodness.
How far such mentalities can go is hard to say, but I have thought for decades that periods in the past where 20-40% of the populations have died through disease, famine or war are not something that we in the modern era are beyond experiencing and we are collectively far too arrogant and complacent about such matters. It is hard to know which is more powerful - for both are clearly to blame: the ruthlessness of various people wielding great powers largely in secret; or the complacency of the masses in meekly accepting such rulers and their own thralldom.
The bad guys want to turn our beautiful lives into a living nightmare because that is what they do, they feel the pull of Hell and are addicted to bringing it into being. So has it ever been and so will it ever be. Perhaps the best form of resistance is maintaining a sense of humor. Nobody laughs in hell! But humor might not be enough...
[email protected] is by far the safest form of protest, yet difficult to spread, surrounded by materialistic bastards that can't see past the end of their cell phone. But that is the answer to slaying the hegemon....kill the beast of Mammon...or cut a leg or two off, Russia seems to have chosen the arms.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 2 2022 12:08 utc | 80
I hear you. All of my life.
I do think that is what will end it. It happens like a phase change. All of a sudden something new starts to crystallize ...
Media is powerful, and so is money, but you can't eat them.
In the end people will not have time for all this crap. Already there are many in that position. The audience shrinks all the time here.
The PMC fiddles and frets about its privileges, while the country decays around it.
Joe Biden looks like the man he has always been to me, the perfect guy for the job of getting the civil war re-started here.
Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 2 2022 12:25 utc | 80
i am considering voting for max bernier
Posted by: james | Sep 2 2022 3:30 utc
So throwing what could be a useful vote away, virtue signalling all the way. Got it!
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This is a methodical response to Ernst Wolff who considers Putin to be part of the club. And it is much more than that.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 1 2022 22:39 utc
It would seem the object of both China and Russia's actions are to ensure the EEF/Rothschild/Blackrock-class do not end up in charge of their countries and their "friendly" international partners.
Is China misusing draconian lockdowns and social credit systems? If the "news" can be believed even a bit, probably. But that doesn't mean they are in league with the WEF. Is Russia a far different culture to US/ZATO, and unwilling to tolerate their illegal incursions and sanctions any longer? Absolutely, but it is up to the US/ZATO crowd to make peace within their own borders, not blame Russia and China for the problems the Rothschild/Blackrock-class created.
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Nevertheless, Canada has some freely roaming buffaloes, so perhaps there are few sane politicians there as well...
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 2 2022 6:20 utc
It's not like Poilievre decided to break from the herd last week. He was one of the few MPs that actually went out into the Truckers Convoy, literally on the doorstep of Parliament. He knows the peaceful reality of working Joes and Jills that fed the homeless, cleaned the streets and reduced the crime rate by 95%.
Is he or his entire platform "perfect"? Far from it, but as long as the disrupters can keep like-minded people from even rationally discussing the situation before us and possible beneficial actions, the Trudeau/Freeland/Singh Cabal wins.
That's why this so many threads here devolve into non-sequitur noise. But notice that once the thread time-out or gets very long, the trolls depart and some very good comments appear unmolested. Squirrel!
Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 12:34 utc | 81
"It was not Washington that collapsed the Soviet Union. It was the Politburo’s arrest of the President of the Soviet Union."
Funny because Gorbachev himself thought The Chernobyl disaster ended the USSR ....
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 2 2022 8:19 utc | 62
Well, no doubt, although our cognitive processes always hunt for clarity and simple declarative explanations that definitely point to 'this one thing' or 'one idea' which explains everything, it was a case of many different things over many different years. There are always infinite number of causes and conditions contributing to any given event. It's true for each and every ocean wave crashing ashore; how much more true for events involving millions of individuals over hundreds of years.
That said, it does seem fair to conclude that we are in 'interesting times.' Things could still go either way, but if so it looks like Russia has to succeed in serving as a bulwark of sanity and defender of civilization whilst Western people have to wake up before it's too late, something looking increasingly unlikely though perhaps the upcoming winter will do the trick - cold is bracing!
It's always darkest just before the dawn....
New German domestic rules.....lights out by 10pm, going look like Norf Korea from space, brrr......and yes I'm splitting my sides laughing....German politicians are funnier than cross dressing perverts, passing themselves off as President....and yes you can included Bill C and Boris J in that schmata confused psychosis.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 2 2022 12:49 utc | 83
I see the Canadian politician Poilievre mentioned above, and then I remembered this list of WEF members. Poilievre had a page on the WEF site, but now it is only found in web archives. I don't ever remember hearing him (or any other politician) renouncing the WEF -- so I assume they are all on the same page and support WEF valves.
https://patriots.win/p/141ro6zmhL/canada-is-ruled-by-the-wef--all-/
While putting together the WEF lists (people important enough to have their own people pages), I was astonished at the concentration of members in mainstream media and the UN. I can see MSM as you can get WEF members elected by publishing hit pieces against the competition and posting favorable news coverage for WEF members. The UN was more surprising, but perhaps shouldn't me. https://patriots.win/p/141rVT7njF/klaus-schwab-had-built-a-world-g/ .
Posted by: Peter | Sep 2 2022 13:01 utc | 84
"The G7 announced its intention to ban services for the transportation of Russian oil by sea if it is sold above the ceiling set by the West."
https://t.me/azmilitary11/18225
So a Chinese company buys a shipment of Russian oil. Chinese company sells the oil to another intermediary company claiming to be Saudi or Iran company. That company resells the shipment to a western trader or end user or shipping company.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 2 2022 13:01 utc | 85
Poilievre had a page on the WEF site...
Posted by: Peter | Sep 2 2022 13:01 utc
The WEF had posted Poilievre's name/info without his knowledge or consent. The reason it is now not on the WEF site is because as soon as Mr. P. found out he demanded they remove it.
See how sneaky those WEFers are? And they work like the devil to keep their moles undercover.
In addition to the Young Leaders, investigate the Global Shapers. never heard of them... red pill time:
https://rumble.com/vw93e5-mega-boom-schwabs-global-shapers-network-exposed.html
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 13:12 utc | 86
I haven't watched the fascist Biden's speech, I know ahead of time whatever comes from his mouth has been spoonfed to him by his handlers. the US elites have made war on lower classes for 50 years or more, they don't care how much destruction they cause at home and abroad as long as they stay in power.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Sep 2 2022 13:21 utc | 87
Craig Murray on Twitter reports:
The Wikispooks site has been taken down by legal threat to its domain host.Its editor, my fellow ex British diplomat Patrick Haseldine, says it is over the entry on Tracy Twyman, her investigation into Hollywood paedophilia and her subsequent death.
Streisand effect time...
https://twitter.com/craigmurrayorg/status/1565658753348804608
Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2022 13:35 utc | 88
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 2 2022 13:01 utc | 87
This is peak clown world stuff. The only interesting part, buried in the lede, is the possibility of restricting western shipping insurance (oh, were they already breaking their own sanctions? spoiler, yes, in many ways) .. but it's another big opportunity for Asian insurers to step up and end Euro shipping insurance dominance. Thus boomeranging once again.
You can't fight the oil market for long... what if RU and OPEC both call a production cut? Oil close to 200, and once again revenues go up while shipping less product.
Posted by: dask | Sep 2 2022 13:44 utc | 89
They really don't seem to grok that western economies are leveraged 100:1 on cheap energy, and sellers of vital commodities have the power to refuse..
Posted by: dask | Sep 2 2022 13:46 utc | 90
@Paul Greenwood #62:
Ukraine spends 7% GDP on consequences
That is an absolute bullshit figure. Whoever told you that is a liar.
Posted by: S | Sep 2 2022 13:47 utc | 91
I have massive respect for Craig Murray (I posted on his blog for over 10 years - before I got banned) I was amazed that bevin got banned. I thought he was one of the most sensible posters there. There are others who occasionally post here.
However, I would be interested to know what Craig Murray's views are on this - from the Daily Telegraph
"Former UK ambassador to Myanmar Vicky Bowman jailed for immigration offences Vicky Bowman and her husband were arrested last week in their apartment in the capital Yangon"
I disagreed with many of Craig Murray's political views (basically he is a Globalist who likes George Soros), but have always thought he was an honest man of integrity.
Posted by: tony_0pmoc | Sep 2 2022 14:02 utc | 92
"They really don't seem to grok that western economies are leveraged 100:1 on cheap energy, and sellers of vital commodities have the power to refuse.."
Posted by: dask | Sep 2 2022 13:46 utc | 91
The funny thing about this is that as this results in a rise in oil, it will shrink the western economies due to it all being based on cheap energy. Which will then result in a significantly weaker position for them to bargain.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 2 2022 14:03 utc | 93
In their propaganda messages they say it backwards.
US Treasury says that limiting the price of oil from the Russian Federation will reduce Moscow's revenues and lower prices
Also Ministry of Finance of Japan said that a price limit for Russian oil will lower inflation.
G7 will ban services for the transportation of Russian oil by sea
Posted by: rk | Sep 2 2022 14:15 utc | 94
Posted by: rk | Sep 2 2022 14:15 utc | 95
This is proof of economic illiteracy and explains why The West is decadent and at the end.
You can influence Price OR Quantity but NEVER both.
It depends on Price-Elasticity of Supply and whether it is subject to a reverse curve - in a world where oil is in physical short supply - and where Urals Crude for which European refineries are configured - is subject to Stupid Political Games by Western Dimwits - it will be as the Oil Traders predicted - Oil will surge to $380/bbl
Watch Saudi Arabia have technical difficulties and reduce supply.
This is the 1978 Oil Shock to 10th Exponent
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Sep 2 2022 14:20 utc | 95
An assassination attempt on Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, Argentina’s former President and current Vice-President, fails because assassin’s gun jams: video.
Posted by: S | Sep 2 2022 14:31 utc | 96
@ Paul
Which empire or countries suffers most when oil hits $380? Could that be the goal?
Posted by: dfg | Sep 2 2022 14:33 utc | 97
[email protected] PollyV, ape'n Gonzalo Lira, addressing Ms DressUp as he ate breakfast, drank coffee and gave Justin a lesson on inflation.
Poor form for a politician. Even addressed Turdy as 'Justin' reminding me of the contempt in Zelinsky's voice as he asked Justine for more weapons to kill Russians. Bastards the lot, you know what's worse, some Canadians believe it's Change You Can Believe In......ROTFLMAO....I pity them, perhaps on day they may grasp the concept of boycott.....need major convictions to see that through to the end.....
Cheers M
Know them by their deeds...those that run for office that get debased and destroyed by the MSM present better optics for honesty....and even that would remain to be seen.
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 2 2022 14:33 utc | 98
@ Old canadian | Sep 2 2022 12:34 utc | 83 quote :
So throwing what could be a useful vote away, virtue signalling all the way. Got it!
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you don't get much and display an arrogant, know it all attitude as well... i could easily say the same of your political ambitions here... i resent your response.. cheers..
Posted by: james | Sep 2 2022 14:44 utc | 99
Great picture.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbpZc9NWAAAP1-X?format=jpg&name=small
Well, at least the bastards are putting on a good show again. They've been falling short the past few decades...
Empire of Lies indeed.
A fake dictator aping dictatorhood in a fake republic mimicking outrage and moral indignation like every other such poseur in history except most of them believed their own BS now they all know they are performing.
Which of course doesn't mean that things aren't about to get worse for real.
Still, at least for now, most of us can still say: 'I'm alright, Jack!'
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The 13 Demands from the NDP below is the lever we need to force a non-confidence vote before the scheduled, "last possible" election date in Oct 2025.
Removing the WEF Trudeau/Freeland/Singh cabal from power should be a priority for anyone hoping for a quicker end to the nonsense.
I know many MoA residents are tired of hearing about Canadian politics, but this potentially reaches well beyond Canada to Palestine directly, but also against WEF "penetration" of gov'ts world wide.
Unfortunately, this apparent shift in NDP policy has not made it to the MSM or any wide distribution by social or alternative media. I don't share Mr. Engler's optimism that WEFer Singh has changed his spots. That will require Singh fearing losing his seat, leadership and catbird bully pulpit. Klaus Schwab will not be happy if we splash on the world stage what they obviously don't want widely publicly known.
To the Canadians at MoA, please disseminate this as far and wide as you can. The MSM won't do it, so we must do it for ourselves. Want a non-confidence vote sooner rather than waiting until 2025? This is our best shot to date. An election in the next few months, directly after Poileivre, Baber, Lewis and Bergen wrest control from the Harper/Mulroney factions can only be better than what we have now. No more mandates, masks or lockdowns... worth doing something?
To International readers, if the NDP can be forced by massive international public insistence to make a non-confidence motion based on the Liberal non-compliance with these demands, the WEF LOSES CONTROL OF CANADA. No more arms/cash to Ukraine, as once the Conservative Party wins, any new spending will be required to be taken from existing military budgets. This is not an explicit promise from Poilievre, but being sold to the Canadian public as a means to domestically stop the never-ending tax-inflation.
https://dissidentvoice.org/2022/09/supporters-of-palestinian-rights-should-praise-ndps-dramatic-policy-shift/
“We believe Israel’s illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories is at the centre of the challenges facing the Palestinian and Israeli people.” It makes 13 demands of the minority Liberal government that the NDP supports in Parliament. These are:
- Respond to reports from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, Israeli human rights NGOs and the United Nations and accept their recommendations to states
- Refer the killing of journalist Shireen Abu Akleh to the International Criminal Court
- Increase pressure on the Israeli government to stop its plan to annex Palestinian territory in violation of international law
- Condemn the construction of illegal settlements, demolitions of Palestinian homes in the West Bank, and evictions from East Jerusalem, including Sheikh Jarrah
- Call on Israel to end forcible displacement of villagers in Masafer Yatta
- Increase funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) which supports Palestinian refugees
- Condemn Israel’s undemocratic nation-state law
- Condemn the Israeli government’s attacks on civil society in Israel and Palestine, including the recent designation of six Palestinian human rights groups as “terrorist”
- Condemn the ongoing blockade of Gaza and increase Canadian humanitarian assistance to the people of Gaza
- Condemn military detention of Palestinian children, and reaffirm support for the Convention on the Rights of the Child
- Vote for Palestinian human rights at the United Nations
- End all trade and economic cooperation with illegal settlements in Israel-Palestine
- Suspend the bilateral trade of all arms and related materials with the State of Israel until Palestinian rights are upheld"
Posted by: Old canadian | Sep 1 2022 18:58 utc | 1