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Historic Context Of The Referenda In Ukraine
Voting for membership in the Russian Federation has started in four oblast of Ukraine:
Russian proxy officials in four regions — Donetsk and Luhansk in the east, and Kherson and Zaporizka in the south — earlier this week announced plans to hold referendums over four days beginning on Friday. Russia controls nearly all of two of the four regions, Luhansk and Kherson, but only a fraction of the other two, Zaporizka and Donetsk.
Ukrainian officials have dismissed the voting as grotesque theater — staging polls in cities laid to waste by Russian forces and abandoned by most residents.
President Volodymyr Zelensky thanked Ukraine’s allies for their steadfast support and said “the farce” of “sham referenda” would do nothing to change his nation’s fight to drive Russia from Ukraine.
The Ukrainian regime has resorted to pure terrorism to prevent the votes from happening:
Ukrainian partisans, sometimes working with special operations forces, have blown up warehouses holding ballots and buildings where Russian proxy officials preparing for the vote held meetings. Ukrainian officials have acknowledged that they are engaged in a campaign to assassinate key Russian administration officials; more than a dozen have been blown up, shot and poisoned, according to Ukrainian and Russian officials.
Such behavior by the Zelenski regime against its still Ukrainian compatriots will only encourage the people in the four oblast to vote for an alignment with Russia.
The propaganda in the 'west' will declare that the vote is irregular and that the results, likely to be pro-Russian, will be fake.
But a view on historic election outcomes since Ukrainian independence in 1991 show clear geographic preferences in east and south Ukraine for pro-Russian policies:
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The graphic above is from research published by the Eurasian Research Institute of the International Hoca Ahmet Yesevi Turkish-Kazakh University. Its author writes:
As we can see, the have always been a clear-cut geographical split in the way the regions of Ukraine vote for particular candidates. The East and West division or also referred as Southeast and Northwest division was always present throughout the electoral history of the independent Ukraine. It is conventionally believed that the eastern part of Ukraine is more influenced by Russia politically, economically and culturally. Therefore, the presidential candidates proposing more pro-Russian agenda usually gain much more political support in eastern regions than in other parts of Ukraine. On the other hand, the western part of the country has traditionally been more pro-European with strong reference to traditional core Ukrainian ethnic traditions and values. Consequently, presidential candidates with pro-European political agenda and traditional Ukrainian appeal usually had strong support in western regions of the country. It is interesting to note that preferences of the electorate were not related to the geographical origin or background of the presidential candidates and any candidate could easily become popular in the east as well as in the west. Moreover, the same candidate could be both pro-eastern and pro-western in different periods of time as did Leonid Kuchma in 1994 and 1999, who is the only Ukrainian president to serve two consecutive terms from 1994 to 2005.
The division is consistent with ethnic and linguistic differences between those parts of Ukraine.
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In 2014, after the violent fascist coup in Kiev, one of the first laws implemented by the new government removed the Russian language from official use. Instead of overcoming the differences between its people it only sealed the predominant split in Ukraine.
The election promise of the current Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelenski to make peace with the Russia aligned rebellious Donbas region by adhering to the Minsk 2 agreements was rewarded with a large share of southeastern votes for his presidency. However, after having been threatened with death by fascists, Zelenski has made a 180 degree turn and has since posed as Ukrainian nationalist. In consequence he has lost all support in southeastern Ukraine.
The southeastern parts of today's Ukraine have for centuries been part of the central Russian empire. They were only attached to the Soviet Republic of Ukraine under Lenin's rule in 1922 and, in the case of Crimea, in 1954 under Nikita Khrushchev who himself had grown up in the Donbas region.
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A likely high turnout and majority vote for membership in the Russian Federation will only correct the historic misalignment created by those illogical transfers.
@Kamil #189:
The southeastern parts of today’s Ukraine have for centuries been part of the central Russian empire. They were only attached to the Soviet Republic of Ukraine under Lenin’s rule in 1922
This is not true. They were regions of independent Ukrainian People’s Republic.
First of all, the UPR wasn’t really “independent”. Secondly, it existed for 5 months, then was liquidated by Austrians and Germans, then, 8 months later, was reestablished and existed for another 2 years—in other words, it was quite an ephemeral entity. Thirdly, it didn’t control half the areas it claimed as its own. Fourthly, in the areas that it did control, its control was quite tenuous. Fifthly, the regions in question changed hands multiple times. Let’s look at this last point in detail:
Characteristics of the regions in which referendums on joining the Russian Federation will be held (RIA Novosti, September 23, 2022 — in Russian)
On Donetsk (Yuzovka until 1924):
In May 1917 it received city status. At the end of 1917, Soviet power was established in the city. In January / February – March 1918, it was part of the Donetsk–Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic within the RSFSR. At the second All-Ukrainian Congress of Soviets held on March 17–19, 1918, it was included in the Ukrainian Soviet Republic. After the signing of the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (1918), at the end of April 1918 it was occupied by German troops and until the end of 1918 was part of the Ukrainian State of Hetman Pavlo Skoropadskiy. Since December 1918, hard battles were being fought in the Yuzovka region between units of the Armed Forces of the South of Russia [South of Russia was a short-lived state recognized only by France — S] and the Workers’ and Peasants’ Red Army, in May 1919 units of AFSR entrenched in the city.
In December 1919, during the offensive of the Red Army, Soviet power was restored in the city.
On Lugansk:
On November 8, 1917, Soviet power was established in Lugansk. During the Civil War (1917–1922) in April–November 1918, the city was occupied by German and Austrian troops. In November 1918 – December 1919, Lugansk repeatedly changed hands. On December 24, 1919, units of the Red Army finally captured the city.
On Kherson:
After the fall of the monarchy, in November 1917 – January 1918, the city was under the control of the authorities of the Ukrainian People’s Republic […]. Soviet power was established at the end of January 1918. In April–December 1918, Kherson was occupied by Austrian troops, then was under the control of the local city duma and the military revolutionary committee, that in February 1919 recognized the authority of the Directorate of Ukraine (the central authority of the Ukrainian People’s Republic); at the same time, in January–March 1919, the Anglo–French and Greek troops were stationed in the city. On March 9–10, 1919, Kherson was captured by the detachments of ataman Nikolay Grigoryev (the leader of the armed formations in the Ukraine during the Civil War of 1917–1922). In May–August 1919 Kherson was under the control of the Workers’ and Peasants’ Red Army, in August 1919 – February 1920—the Armed Forces of the South of Russia. On February 3, 1920, it was occupied by units of the Red Army.
On Zaporozhye (Aleksandrovsk until 1921):
During the Civil War (1917–1922) in April–November 1918 it was occupied by German–Austrian troops. In November–December 1918, it was controlled by the Directorate of Ukraine, and in the first half of 1919, by the Bolsheviks. In July 1919 it was occupied by units of the Armed Forces of the South of Russia. In 1919–1920, it was captured several times by detachments of Nestor Makhno. In January 1920, it was taken by units of the Red Army.
Posted by: S | Sep 23 2022 20:40 utc | 246
@aristodemos 70 and @xeen 80
I won’t tip-toe around and call these “particular tribalist ethnicity” or “tiny-hat oligarchs” as it is – The Global Jewish Cabal. They are the ones who are responsible for 99% of the problem in Ukraine [and in Russia, until Putin cleansed out the pigsty, well, mostly, from these parasites].
Let’s see.
2014.
A Jew by the name Victoria Nudelman (hiding under the anglo-saxonized name Nuland), following the neo-nazi ideas of another jew, Robert Kagan, her hubby under the patronage of Obama, using her jewish-neo-nazi-oligarch friends in Ukraine (Kolomoiski, Rabinovich, Pinchuk, Valtsman, Turchinov-bloody-pastor) in connection with these jews neo-nazi battalions, organized, funded, and CIA-supported an over-throw of the elected government in Kiev.
2014-2022:
Kolomoiski, together with his other “tribal ethnicity” buddies, organized ethnic cleansing / genocide of the ethnic Russians in the East, in Kiev, and in Odessa. He even was advertising paying a reward of $10,000 for killing a Russian on billboards all over Ukraine. Officially! Calls himself a “Zhido-Bandera” (Zhido, meaning Jew in Polish). And Bandera — well, a well-known Hitler collaborator responsible for slaying 100,000 Russian and Polish people during WW2.
+2014-2022:
Jews are 0.13% of the population of Ukraine. But somehow, this tiny-tiny percent of this parasitic “particular tribalist ethnicity” managed to organize to get Turchinov “elected” as an “interim president”, followed by another parasite Valtsman (hiding under his wife’s Ukrainian name “Poroshenko”) as the next “elected president”, followed by another jew Zelenski (whose main talent is to use his member to play piano) as the current “president”.
2022:
Russia, after the threat from the little jew-parasite Zelenski in Munich in Feb-2022 to acquire nuclear weapons and use them on Russia, after inviting since 2000s CIA bio-weapon labs to create genetically-ethnically targeted (to kill Slavic people, not jews, I assume) bio-weapons, and after inviting NATO to place its missiles 5min away from Moscow, decided ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and began its Special Military Ops.
Blinkin, another jew now running the US State Department, together with his second-in-command, Nudelman / Nuland, starts screaming “bloody murder” etc. etc.
Another jew, Abramovich (a Russian oligarch, living in, where else, London!), shows up to “save the day” and organizes “peace negotiations” in Turkey. But I guess the Abramovich jew did not square the plans with the Nudelman / Blinken jews who ordered the Zelenski jew to continue killing as many slavic (most brain washed, or fully indoctrinated neo-nazi ukranians) people as possible…
Quite a story, eh?!
Posted by: RockTime | Sep 23 2022 21:45 utc | 264
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