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August 28, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-141
Only for news & views related to the Ukraine conflict. Note: Stick to the topic or get banned. The current open thread for other issues is here.
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Gladio was a great way to get people to lerve their governments, and covid turned out to be better than Gladio because it could fixate more people with terror of imminent death, make more people love the criminal ptb and, more importantly for our euthanasia euphoric ptb, kill more surplus to their needs population of the planet. Posted by: Giyane | Aug 29 2022 3:51 utc | 201 @ Melaleuca | Aug 29 2022 2:44 utc | 200 Posted by: james | Aug 29 2022 4:18 utc | 202 New York Times:
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I did not bother to cite the New York Post – a trash newspaper which simply states that Russia is shelling the npp. Posted by: jared | Aug 29 2022 4:27 utc | 203 @ jared | Aug 29 2022 4:27 utc | 206 Posted by: james | Aug 29 2022 4:37 utc | 204 @NemesisCalling | Aug 28 2022 20:44 utc | 126 Posted by: imo | Aug 29 2022 4:45 utc | 205 Thanks to Maxx | Aug 29 2022 1:23 utc | 191 for posting that worthy commentary. Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 29 2022 4:54 utc | 206 3rd phase of the Russian military intervention is being prepared. Posted by: Carlos Marques | Aug 29 2022 5:17 utc | 207 Stephen Stapczynski. @SStapczynski. Aug 27. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 29 2022 5:44 utc | 208 mussolini was a capitalist and said so, when he got to power he declared a “nightwatchman state” and promised to revive “manchester capitalism,” these are his phrases, deregulation and privatization followed under the auspices of the first self-described “right neo-liberals,” another fascist phrase, and any view of fascism as “socialist” or “dirigiste” is counterfeit. Posted by: line islands | Aug 29 2022 5:54 utc | 209 anyone who may want to pounce on what i said by citing the IRI, the fascist holding company that bailed out and reconsolidated italian industry and banking during the depression, can stop right there, because the IRI was incorporated as a private, not state, entity, did everything it did with a view to reprivatization, and, like the fascist corporative bodies, was staffed by bankers and industrialists. Posted by: line islands | Aug 29 2022 6:01 utc | 210 @Membrum Virile | Aug 29 2022 5:59 utc | 212 Posted by: imo | Aug 29 2022 7:51 utc | 212 For those who have “socials” and still bother to post for family n friends Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 29 2022 8:36 utc | 213 August 29. /TASS/. Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has identified a member of a Ukrainian sabotage and terrorist group who, together with Natalya Vovk, was plotting the murder of Russian journalist Daria Dugina, the FSB’s Center for Public Relations (CPR) told TASS on Monday. Posted by: mon3 | Aug 29 2022 8:54 utc | 214 The staff of Ukraine’s Air Force have been practically eliminated by Russia’s Aerospace Forces and air defense systems, a military-diplomatic source told TASS on Monday. Posted by: uaf eliminated | Aug 29 2022 9:14 utc | 215 Some still remain. Two Ukr Su-25 were shot down yesterday, one in Zap region. Posted by: rk | Aug 29 2022 9:22 utc | 216 . Posted by: mon3 | Aug 29 2022 9:48 utc | 217 So far it’s only rumors because they’re from a “source”. Posted by: rk | Aug 29 2022 9:58 utc | 218 Dr. George W Oprisko #127 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 29 2022 11:07 utc | 219 On August 28, an unmanned aerial vehicle was used by Ukrainians to strike the territory of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. Posted by: npp | Aug 29 2022 11:16 utc | 220 yes the new Jerusalem project. some call it the heavenly jerusalem project. has been funded, long gamed, etc. and yes Netanyahu has openly spoken of multiple israels around the globe and taking on the role of anti terror world police. because… they say they are good at that and have all the tech that helps. as old hippie said there is lots of info about , sources can ruin the idea as most ive seen that speak of this are euro nazi pages. zels comment about ukraine becoming another israel seems less wierd if this project is considered. theres plenty of statements from the people involved. Igor berkut heads The New Jerusalem project and a few rabbis openly state the chabad side Posted by: hankster | Aug 29 2022 11:27 utc | 221 Washington must come to terms with its role in provoking and now prolonging the war. Posted by: Menz | Aug 29 2022 11:58 utc | 222 Menz | Aug 29 2022 11:58 utc | Posted by: spudski | Aug 29 2022 12:10 utc | 223 What are the chances there’ll be terrorist attacks on European gas reserve facilities that’ll be blamed to Russia? Posted by: Lucci | Aug 29 2022 12:11 utc | 224 Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2022 20:49 utc | 127 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 29 2022 12:13 utc | 225 Dear b Posted by: Gerald | Aug 29 2022 12:14 utc | 226 So a supposed ‘major offensive by Ukrainian forces to shape the battlefield’ is underway ! Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 29 2022 12:17 utc | 227 There seem to be two offensives going simultaneously, one near Novaya Kakohvka by Ukraine and one near Nikolaev by Russia. Guess this will be updated in coming hours. It looks like there could be a “reverse cauldron” coming up, if UKR committed relatively seriously to its own attack. By reverse cauldron is meant one side pushes deeper while it gets flanked from another side. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 29 2022 12:43 utc | 228 German news say there is a uki breakthrough near Cherson. Posted by: Telefonkabel | Aug 29 2022 13:00 utc | 229 One of the buildings with fuel storage at ZNPP has a hole in the roof from an m777 Posted by: rk | Aug 29 2022 13:17 utc | 230 CC: Posted by: npp | Aug 29 2022 13:24 utc | 231 “Our source in the OP told us that the President’s Office has developed a strategy for an information offensive on Kherson, which aims to keep the Russian army in suspense and prevent the organisation of the referendum. No one will announce a real counter-attack, it may start one day when they get used to such information attacks, but at the moment there are not enough Ukrainian forces in the South, awaiting for new military aid from the West.” Posted by: unimperator | Aug 29 2022 13:29 utc | 232 Most likely the Russians have more real-time intel sources than Twitter to see how realistic of a threat an actual offensive would be in Kherson. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 29 2022 13:31 utc | 233 That will surely work, Russian forces plan their strategy based on Twitter. Posted by: rk | Aug 29 2022 13:36 utc | 234 Telefonkabel @ 233 Posted by: Objective Observer | Aug 29 2022 13:37 utc | 235 Not sure the link above in 239 is working: Posted by: Objective Observer | Aug 29 2022 13:47 utc | 236 line islands | Aug 29 2022 6:01 utc | 214 Posted by: bevin | Aug 29 2022 13:56 utc | 237 line islands @ 212 Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 29 2022 13:57 utc | 238 Two Su-25s were shot down north of Posad-Pokrovsky. Posted by: kherson | Aug 29 2022 13:58 utc | 239 Now the success of the offensive has achieved its purpose in Western media. Posted by: mon3 | Aug 29 2022 14:17 utc | 240 Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 29 2022 12:13 utc | 229 Posted by: ivan g | Aug 29 2022 14:26 utc | 241 Telefonkabel | Aug 29 2022 13:00 utc | 233 Posted by: Pskov | Aug 29 2022 14:32 utc | 242 Russia comprehends the west and its weaknesses far better than anyone understands. Posted by: Doug Hillman | Aug 29 2022 14:41 utc | 243 OT: Posted by: Iraq | Aug 29 2022 14:42 utc | 244 “US believes Ukraine ‘shaping’ for counteroffensive in the south, say officials Posted by: Orage | Aug 29 2022 15:07 utc | 245 CC: Posted by: Kherson | Aug 29 2022 15:12 utc | 246 Orage | Aug 29 2022 15:07 utc | 250 Posted by: ivan g | Aug 29 2022 15:16 utc | 247 I discovered Bellincat’s evil Youtube twin: Posted by: Et Tu | Aug 29 2022 15:18 utc | 248 A Finnish blogger shocked social networks when he published this article: Posted by: mon3 | Aug 29 2022 15:25 utc | 249 @ mon3 | Aug 29 2022 15:25 utc | 254 Posted by: james | Aug 29 2022 15:30 utc | 250 @ Et Tu | Aug 29 2022 15:18 utc | 253 Posted by: james | Aug 29 2022 15:31 utc | 251 Posted by: mon3 | Aug 29 2022 15:25 utc | 254 Posted by: juliania | Aug 29 2022 16:00 utc | 252 Arioch@96 – Re: blogs on ZNPP. Thanks for posting these – very much appreciated. I found the entries in ALEX_BYKOV’s blog most interesting. It’s good to hear some technical details from an engineer who works at the plant. Posted by: PavewayIV | Aug 29 2022 16:09 utc | 253 @mon3 Posted by: Krypton | Aug 29 2022 16:10 utc | 254 Interesting article in the NYT about foreign investors using US real estate for the primary purpose of money laundering. Posted by: Rob | Aug 29 2022 16:18 utc | 255 The Ukrainian forces blew a hole in the reactor rod storing room at the ZNPP. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 29 2022 16:35 utc | 256 One wonder what the German public thinks of this, in these hard and soon to get harder times. I’m sure the 600 million would be better spent on the German citizens. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 29 2022 16:40 utc | 257 Posted by: Krypton | Aug 29 2022 16:10 utc | 259 Posted by: mon3 | Aug 29 2022 16:41 utc | 258 Let’s ask the Martyanov expert in exile how the holes in the npp are normal and what high school math formula is behind the logic of not responding to attacks. Posted by: rk | Aug 29 2022 16:47 utc | 259 @Krypton | Aug 29 2022 16:10 utc | 259 Posted by: aquadraht | Aug 29 2022 16:53 utc | 260 Objective Observer @239 Posted by: Aristodemos | Aug 29 2022 16:57 utc | 261 mon3 | Aug 29 2022 15:25 utc | 254 Posted by: Gerrard White | Aug 29 2022 17:06 utc | 262 Question : Am I just not seeing it, or am I not giving a report on progress or doing the SMO today Posted by: mon3 | Aug 29 2022 17:25 utc | 263 @Aristodemos | Aug 29 2022 16:57 utc | 267 Posted by: imo | Aug 29 2022 17:26 utc | 264 “Needless to say,” I actually disagree with that first sentence. Posted by: nwwoods | Aug 29 2022 17:30 utc | 265 Howitzers saves lives, Sweden must give them to Ukraine. In other news, the Ukrainian counter-offensive in Kherson has begun. (Source: mainstream media) Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 29 2022 17:39 utc | 266 @Republicofscotland (263) Posted by: Rob | Aug 29 2022 17:52 utc | 267 @mon3 | Aug 29 2022 15:25 utc | 254
I would argue that the above statement is mostly false because Russia ceased to exist in 1917. The occupier(s) called the new entity “The Soviet Union” and immediately started to dismantle former Russian empire into the smaller states hostile to Russians (divide et impera).. Posted by: Vayezatha | Aug 29 2022 19:09 utc | 268 @mon #269:
Occasionally Russian MoD website maintainers screw up and forget to post the report for the day. When that happens, you can find the report on Russian MoD Telegram channel: https://t.me/s/mod_russia Posted by: S | Aug 29 2022 19:47 utc | 269 The head of the European Union‘s executive branch and Germany’s chancellor on Monday pledged a reform of the continent’s electricity market to help bring down power prices that have been pushed higher by skyrocketing gas prices. Posted by: JF Kay | Aug 29 2022 19:52 utc | 270 It does seem the long awaited often debated Kherson counter offensive has kicked off….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 29 2022 20:06 utc | 271 Aristodemos @ 257 Posted by: Objective Observer | Aug 29 2022 20:08 utc | 272 Posted by: Kherson | Aug 29 2022 15:12 utc | 251 Posted by: Arioch | Aug 29 2022 21:48 utc | 273 in ALEX_BYKOV’s blog most interesting. It’s good to hear some technical details from an engineer who works at the plant. Posted by: Arioch | Aug 29 2022 21:55 utc | 274 Obviously, the German government is preparing to give the coup de grâce to the German economy by limiting business with China. Found at https://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/news/detail/9006
“So turns out that the reported Ukraine Kherson offensive is not an actual offensive on the ground, but an “information offensive” on Twitter in order to keep the Russian forces in place and from organizing any referendums. Posted by: daffyDuct | Aug 29 2022 23:40 utc | 276 Posted by: line islands | Aug 29 2022 5:54 utc | 212 Posted by: Lex | Aug 30 2022 0:02 utc | 277 @ Moses | Aug 29 2022 23:11 utc | 281 Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 30 2022 0:13 utc | 278 from RT Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 30 2022 0:40 utc | 279 @ Don Bacon | Aug 30 2022 0:40 utc | 285 with the RT report on the Kherson “counter-offensive” attack Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 30 2022 1:15 utc | 280 Has anyone else noticed how Team Ze is continuously worried about “western war fatigue”? Another dead giveaway how it’s all a show aimed at western audiences, including the “attacks”. It’s all nothing but some Washington think thank run wannabe-Hollywood movie, with a lot of real casualties. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2022 1:42 utc | 281 Has anyone else noticed how Team Ze is continuously worried about “western war fatigue”? Another dead giveaway how it’s all a show aimed at western audiences, including the “attacks”. It’s all nothing but some Washington think thank run wannabe-Hollywood movie, with a lot of real casualties. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2022 1:42 utc | 282 Jonathan W | Aug 29 2022 17:39 utc | 272 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 30 2022 1:43 utc | 283 @ unimperator Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 30 2022 1:48 utc | 284 Ok. So while scouring telegrams for Great Ukraine Counteroffensive. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 30 2022 1:59 utc | 285 254-mon3 Posted by: ΚΓΨ | Aug 30 2022 2:44 utc | 286 The US has succeeded, instability on three continents plus Central America. “The Biden administration plans to formally ask Congress to approve an estimated $1.1 billion arms sale to Taiwan.”. . .way to go, Joe. Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 30 2022 2:56 utc | 287 @ JF Kay | Aug 29 2022 19:52 utc | 276 Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 30 2022 3:13 utc | 288 I know barflies are all well past this.> Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 30 2022 5:18 utc | 289 Aaaaand…this is the nu-look U$ mighty military machine. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 30 2022 6:17 utc | 290 Aaaaand…this is the nu-look U$ mighty military machine. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 30 2022 6:17 utc | 291 Melaleuca #192 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 30 2022 9:58 utc | 292 @all interested in Mussolini
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mussolini-and-mi5-documen_n_320051 Posted by: kai | Aug 30 2022 10:00 utc | 293 Sputnik – Posted by: rk | Aug 30 2022 10:22 utc | 294 As do I, but otherwise a worthwhile essay for the most part. – Posted by: nwwoods | Aug 29 2022 17:30 utc | Posted by: spudski | Aug 30 2022 11:34 utc | 295 Here’s Jens Stoltenberg clear as crystal saying NATO has been operating in Ukraine since 2014. Unapologetic and unambiguous…. Posted by: juliania | Aug 30 2022 13:53 utc | 296 What an eye opener, the one of the Woke female soldier. Listening to her, I thought she was talking about a belt fed machine gun.🤔 Posted by: morongobill | Aug 30 2022 14:04 utc | 297 “an emergency meeting to discuss the crisis on September 9 in Prague” Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 30 2022 18:41 utc | 299 I have recently been blocked by Facebook for not meeting their community standards, for merely making a comment on rising tensions over Taiwan, which I believe is inextricably tied to the Ukraine crisis, for different local conflicts are connected, one can be the domino to bring all the others down – world war. Posted by: peter mcloughlin | Aug 31 2022 10:53 utc | 300 |
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