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August 28, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-141
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this article manages to run in opposite directions
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Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 28 2022 18:25 utc | 101 @Oui #31:
@circumspect #33:
Indeed. The article features Vovk’s National Guard ID with RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan’s photo and name photoshopped in, subtitled: “This ID card from the Ukrainian army is said to be fake.” Well, of course, this fake ID that was poorly photoshopped by the Ukrainians to “show how easy it is to fake stuff” is fake (i.e., actually showing the reverse), but the original ID that Russian hackers have published on April 13 is real. The newspaper is a rag. Posted by: S | Aug 28 2022 18:27 utc | 102 fun changing street names and other hypernationalistic nonsense. Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 28 2022 18:30 utc | 103 TASS/. Austria’s interior ministry has not confirmed reports about alleged murder of Ukrainian national Natalia Vovk, a suspected murderer of Russian journalist Darya Dugina. Posted by: mon3 | Aug 28 2022 18:49 utc | 104 My question is, why does this man not understand his own family history, re: Russia vs. Nazi’s in Ukraine WW1 and WW2? Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Aug 28 2022 18:55 utc | 105 History Buff Posted by: Lennart Mogren | Aug 28 2022 18:55 utc | 106 Posted by: Oui | Aug 28 2022 14:32 utc | 16 Posted by: FC 99 | Aug 28 2022 18:56 utc | 107 Orgel | Aug 28 2022 16:08 utc | 52 Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 28 2022 18:59 utc | 108 sln2002 | Aug 28 2022 18:25 utc | 101 Posted by: Gerrard White | Aug 28 2022 19:07 utc | 109 @Chaka Khagan | Aug 28 2022 13:34 utc | 2 Posted by: Cyril | Aug 28 2022 19:09 utc | 110 Have you seen this video, shot in a rare fit of honesty… Posted by: Nico | Aug 28 2022 19:17 utc | 111 @sln2002 101 Posted by: Metron | Aug 28 2022 19:19 utc | 112 Posted by: Metron | Aug 28 2022 19:19 utc | 112 Posted by: alek_a | Aug 28 2022 19:32 utc | 113 Posted by: Joe Walker | Aug 28 2022 17:07 utc | 75 Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Aug 28 2022 19:32 utc | 114 @DutchZ 17 Posted by: Hermit | Aug 28 2022 19:36 utc | 115 Of much greater importance to geopolitical outcome is economic repurcussions. Posted by: Doug Hillman | Aug 28 2022 19:42 utc | 116 Fascism, in short, is not only a law-giver and a founder of institutions, but an educator and a promoter of spiritual life. …”Conception of a corporative state” Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 28 2022 19:45 utc | 117 Military Summary Channel reporting that the Russian “3rd military Corp.” of 40-60,000 soldiers has completed its training and equipping, and is moving through Rostov toward the front. This size of group would create a breakthrough wherever they are sent, perhaps to the Donetsk front (Maryinka, Avdeevka etc.) or the Kherson area (to take Nikolyevka and Odessa). Dima thinks the the latter area is more probable. The Ukrainians have little or no strategic reserves left, so the only result will be a weakening of one front to reinforce the one being attacked by this new Corp., resulting in both fronts collapsing. They don’t give up, but the attacks the nature of the attacks are a sign of desperation not effective! Posted by: mon3 | Aug 28 2022 19:51 utc | 119 alek_a@utc Posted by: Metron | Aug 28 2022 19:54 utc | 120 @ sln2002 #109
Posted by: ? | Aug 28 2022 20:19 utc | 121 Chaka Kagan Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 28 2022 20:20 utc | 122 At Nico 111 Posted by: Daniel | Aug 28 2022 20:21 utc | 123 Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 28 2022 17:58 utc | 91 Posted by: turandot | Aug 28 2022 20:22 utc | 124 Several analyses of the DNA of Ashgenazi Jews have been made, as well as analyses of the DNA of the Palestinians. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2022 20:42 utc | 125 @ aristodemos 54 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 28 2022 20:44 utc | 126 Military Summary Channel reporting that the Russian “3rd military Corp.” of 40-60,000 soldiers has completed its training and equipping, and is moving through Rostov toward the front. This size of group would create a breakthrough wherever they are sent, perhaps to the Donetsk front (Maryinka, Avdeevka etc.) or the Kherson area (to take Nikolyevka and Odessa). Dima thinks the the latter area is more probable. The Ukrainians have little or no strategic reserves left, so the only result will be a weakening of one front to reinforce the one being attacked by this new Corp., resulting in both fronts collapsing. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2022 20:49 utc | 127 Oops, my apologies b, everyone, for posting my above comment here. Honest mistake. Delete it if you feel the need. Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 28 2022 21:17 utc | 128 Dr. George W Oprisko, 127 Posted by: Maxx | Aug 28 2022 21:18 utc | 129 Posted by: Nico | Aug 28 2022 19:17 utc | 111 Posted by: Olivier | Aug 28 2022 21:22 utc | 130 I don’t know if it has been mentioned here, but Switzerland recently cancelled the popular referendum against the purchase of F-35, under the pretext of lack of time due to the war in Ukraine. Posted by: Marjorie | Aug 28 2022 21:27 utc | 132 Jonathan W@117 Posted by: bevin | Aug 28 2022 21:31 utc | 133 Russia’s new 3AC is volunteers ages 18-50, loose recruitment standards so not the fittest group but surely picked up some vets. Officer and NCO quality will be an issue, lots of “learning on the job”. Target size was 15k and they will probably deploy closer to 10, not 40-60k. Kit seems pretty good with some quantity of T-80 variants and BMP-3s, no idea about arty. I would expect this group to put pressure and have an effect on where Ukraine deploys its reserves but not be a decisive factor. These are Russians, not LDNR and not mercs like Wagner so wouldn’t expect them to be thrown headlong against fortified lines. Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 28 2022 21:32 utc | 134 Marjorie@132 Posted by: bevin | Aug 28 2022 21:33 utc | 135 Posted by: Marjorie | Aug 28 2022 21:27 utc | 132 Posted by: mon3 | Aug 28 2022 21:35 utc | 136 UK’s largest warship, one of only two aircraft carriers, HMS Prince of Wales, on a ‘landmark mission’ to America has broken down with mechanical failure. Posted by: WTFUD | Aug 28 2022 21:36 utc | 137 Dr. George W Oprisko@127 Posted by: bevin | Aug 28 2022 21:39 utc | 138 Bevin@135 Posted by: Marjorie | Aug 28 2022 21:41 utc | 139 Dr. George W Oprisko @ 127
This would confirm that up to now the Russians for the last six months have been attacking and advancing, albeit slowly, with two corps, no more than 120K men – against a well entrenched defending army twice that size with all the logistics, command and control, weapons, and filthy lucre NATO could give them. Damn impressive, no way around it. It would make me optimistic if I didn’t fear the treacherous, unprincipled conniving schemes being cooked up in the West. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 28 2022 21:53 utc | 140 Roger@118 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 28 2022 21:57 utc | 141 nwwoods | Aug 28 2022 18:15 utc | 98 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 28 2022 22:00 utc | 142 Can I ask a question here, of those who read Russian/Ukrainian news sources and also follow sport. Posted by: watcher | Aug 28 2022 22:18 utc | 144 Oprisko @138 Posted by: Aristodemos | Aug 28 2022 22:18 utc | 145 Posted by: watcher | Aug 28 2022 22:18 utc | 145 Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 28 2022 22:26 utc | 146 They are removing witnesses. No loose ends Posted by: Guernica | Aug 28 2022 22:33 utc | 147 Posted by: WTFUD | Aug 28 2022 21:36 utc | 137 Posted by: ZX | Aug 28 2022 22:35 utc | 148 Guernica @ 148 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 28 2022 22:40 utc | 149 ZX @ 149 Posted by: Maxx | Aug 28 2022 22:41 utc | 150 “Ukraine has a budget gap of $5b a month because of its leaders. There will be no aid. Who is bearing the brunt of the fighting in the Donbas? Citizen militas. And that is who will be responsible for “rebuilding” Ukraine. Not the West. Not Russia.” Posted by: Guernica | Aug 28 2022 22:49 utc | 151 @148 Killing pasties was an ancient custom in Cornwall, UK. No longer practiced as it is considered cruel and inhumane. Posted by: dh | Aug 28 2022 22:51 utc | 152 Explaining Friday’s Price Surge Posted by: Metron | Aug 28 2022 23:26 utc | 153 @Guernica #148:
Must be Woosie, a notorious serial killer of pasties: Cat survives 3 years away from home on Ginsters pasties (The Mirror, Alivia Smith, February 5, 2014). Posted by: S | Aug 28 2022 23:28 utc | 154 @155 That may be true but leading archaeologists have discovered traces of pasties at Stonehenge. It is believed they were sacrificed there during the Winter Solstice ceremonies. Apparently it may still be going on secretly in remote parts of Brittany. I hope this isn’t OT. Posted by: dh | Aug 28 2022 23:40 utc | 155 For context see, e.g. Message to Congress on Curbing Monopolies. Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 28 2022 23:42 utc | 156 “I know there was a “soccer war” between Honduras and El Salvador.” Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Aug 28 2022 23:46 utc | 157 Posted by: Maxx | Aug 28 2022 22:41 utc | 151 Posted by: ZX | Aug 28 2022 23:46 utc | 158 @ Metron | Aug 28 2022 23:26 utc | 154 Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 28 2022 23:48 utc | 159 sln2002 157 Posted by: Smedley | Aug 28 2022 23:49 utc | 160 @ Metron | Aug 28 2022 23:26 utc | 154 Posted by: Maxx | Aug 28 2022 23:52 utc | 161 “…to be more tolerant and have more solidarity.” Posted by: Guernica | Aug 28 2022 23:53 utc | 162 Posted by: Guernica | Aug 28 2022 22:33 utc | 148 How important is the US decision to name its military mission in Ukraine? Posted by: Michigan Dude | Aug 28 2022 23:59 utc | 164 George Orwell had a name for that. He called it doublethink Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 28 2022 23:59 utc | 165 PS I just noticed ‘pasty.’ Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 29 2022 0:05 utc | 166 @ZX, 159 Posted by: Maxx | Aug 29 2022 0:08 utc | 167 Posted by: Maxx | Aug 29 2022 0:08 utc | 168 Posted by: ZX | Aug 29 2022 0:19 utc | 168 ZX | Aug 28 2022 22:35 utc | 149 Posted by: Kitaysupporter | Aug 29 2022 0:21 utc | 169 Current military operations are: Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 29 2022 0:22 utc | 170 Posted by: bevin | Aug 28 2022 17:52 utc | 88 Posted by: Lex | Aug 29 2022 0:30 utc | 172 Duncan Idaho @ 158 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 29 2022 0:42 utc | 173 from “To Hell with the Admirals” By Hans Schmidt —
Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 29 2022 0:44 utc | 174 https://t.me/therussianmarket Posted by: Manage without me | Aug 29 2022 0:49 utc | 175 @ZX,169 Posted by: Maxx | Aug 29 2022 0:54 utc | 176 sorry, wrong telegram channel for that Dugina suspected murderer murdered. Posted by: Manage without me | Aug 29 2022 0:55 utc | 177 it looks like it’s a fake story, but why would the Austrian newspaper do that? Posted by: Manage without me | Aug 29 2022 0:59 utc | 178 @Manage without me 181 Posted by: A.H. | Aug 29 2022 1:04 utc | 179
Has analysis of the DNA of Sephardic Jews been done? Posted by: David Levin | Aug 29 2022 1:07 utc | 180 @David Levin, Posted by: Manage without me | Aug 29 2022 1:17 utc | 182 The ROC and Ukraine Posted by: CarlD | Aug 29 2022 1:17 utc | 183 @ oldhippie | Aug 28 2022 20:20 utc | 122 Posted by: james | Aug 29 2022 1:18 utc | 184 The bankers are through trusting the interventionists, which means negotiation will be the only way forward. Conflict will not settle things no matter what the so-called “west” throws at Putin’s Russia. They see that now, they understand it much better. Keeping the spigot open is no longer an option. Contraction must happen. Hard-headed, empty-headed, blinker-less, rudder-less, clue-less. WTF and who really cares? Euro countries could very well start to see things unravel right before our eyes. Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Aug 29 2022 1:22 utc | 185 Posted by: Manage without me | Aug 29 2022 0:59 utc | 181 Posted by: Nobody | Aug 29 2022 1:23 utc | 186 Posted by: Manage without me | Aug 29 2022 0:59 utc | 181 Posted by: Nobody | Aug 29 2022 1:23 utc | 187 ALERTS TO THREATS IN 2022 EUROPE Posted by: Maxx | Aug 29 2022 1:23 utc | 188 oldhippie | Aug 28 2022 20:20 utc | 122 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 29 2022 1:26 utc | 189 Friends are talking about Russia denying radiation risk. This story looks full of holes to me but I’ve got no other info and it seems like nothing here recently. Posted by: Charles Peterson | Aug 29 2022 1:27 utc | 190 thecelticwithinme @ 188 Posted by: Maxx | Aug 29 2022 1:31 utc | 191 @ CarlD | Aug 29 2022 1:17 utc | 186 Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 29 2022 1:33 utc | 192 Roger | Aug 28 2022 19:47 utc | 118 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 29 2022 1:43 utc | 193 @ Maxx | Aug 29 2022 1:23 utc | 191 Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 29 2022 1:44 utc | 194 Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 28 2022 20:49 utc | 127 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 29 2022 2:00 utc | 195 “He’s doing our work for us, in a certain respect,” said the speaker of the House.
FDR (“class traitor”), Putin (“killer” emporer), Xi (immortal “communist”), blah blah blah “strong man” or dictator…unlike Joe Biden in whom the Democratic Party caucus of the 117th Congress are eager to cram “democratic processes”.
Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 29 2022 2:15 utc | 196 james | Aug 29 2022 1:18 utc | 187 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 29 2022 2:44 utc | 197 — John Cleese – British writer, actor and tall person Posted by: K | Aug 29 2022 2:52 utc | 198 Posted by: CarlD | Aug 29 2022 1:17 utc | 186 Posted by: Objective Observer | Aug 29 2022 3:32 utc | 199 Look for the pre-Kievan Rus Khazar Tamga. Revealing.. Posted by: Lozion | Aug 29 2022 3:44 utc | 200 |
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