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August 26, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-139
Only for news & views related to the Ukraine conflict. Note: Stick to the topic or get banned. The current open thread for other issues is here.
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Europe is toast. The US isn’t far behind. Thank you, Russia. Posted by: Leroy | Aug 26 2022 14:21 utc | 1 Halturnerradioshow.com claims elite US Army units from Fort Campbell (KY.) en route to Kiev does this mean US intervention in the Ukraine. Time will tell. Posted by: Lou Cypher | Aug 26 2022 14:26 utc | 2 BBC prime news 10 PM Wed 24th. With full military experts. Posted by: boindub | Aug 26 2022 14:26 utc | 3 Interesting read from Engdahl
Whose Grain Is Being Shipped From Ukraine? Posted by: Down South | Aug 26 2022 14:33 utc | 4 4 shells hit the area of the storage of radioactive isotopes. Radiation level at the NPP remains normal – Sputnik Posted by: rk | Aug 26 2022 14:40 utc | 5 From the BBC, the paragon of journalistic integrity. 🙂 Posted by: DilNir | Aug 26 2022 14:41 utc | 6 Down South @4 Posted by: Lawrence Miller | Aug 26 2022 14:54 utc | 7 @Lou Cypher | Aug 26 2022 14:26 utc | 2
Hal Turner is renowned for his made up BS and failed predictions. I have never seen anything he said turn out to be true. Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Aug 26 2022 14:55 utc | 8 The removal of monuments to the Red Army in countries whose governments are run by right-wing nationalists is a sign of the re-emergence of revanchist nationalism in Europe. The fact that it’s done out of some kind of anti-Russian sentiment is bizarre as the Red Army was internationalist at its core. This should be read as a rejection of internationalism and not merely as Russophobia (although, certainly, there is a Russophobic element which Baltic and East European nationalists are playing on). Posted by: fnord | Aug 26 2022 14:56 utc | 9 The authorities of the liberated territory of the Zaporozhye region reported that as a result of Ukrainian shelling, all power lines were cut off, through which energy from the ZNPP went to Ukraine, and now there is no possibility to supply electricity from the ZNPP to Ukraine. This means a one-time reduction in the total generation of Ukraine by 20%. Therefore, instead of plans to “sell electricity to Europe”, the puppet regime will have to deal with the search for electricity to replace the lost capacity. And this is even without considering the likelihood of a strike by the RF Armed Forces on some TPPs (in response to the shelling of the ZNPP), which will automatically bring the situation in the energy sector of Ukraine to the brink of disaster. – Intel Slava Z 05:23 Posted by: Gilbert | Aug 26 2022 15:06 utc | 10 @dilnir 6. Posted by: pavi | Aug 26 2022 15:08 utc | 11 the swastika was a religious symbol taken and used by both finland and germany…. not sure why it is not okay to use the finnish word for it, which is what i think hakaristi stands for… i don’t know the origin of the word itself, but doubt very much it is a german word.. Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 15:14 utc | 12 The word swastika comes from Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक, romanized: svastika, meaning “conducive to well-being” – wikipedia.. Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 15:15 utc | 13 “Four shells hit the area of the storage of radioactive isotopes after shelling the territory of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant by Ukrainian troops.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 26 2022 15:22 utc | 14 Another angle on my (14) comment and yet again its the Ukrainian forces that are causing the problems. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 26 2022 15:25 utc | 15 @DilNir | Aug 26 2022 14:41 utc | 6 Posted by: rk | Aug 26 2022 15:30 utc | 17 James@12 it might mean ‘hook’. In Hungarian it is ‘horogkereszt’. The first part of the word is hook, the second is cross. I’m originally from Hungary, Hungarian and Finn are distant relatives. Posted by: Peter Schmidt | Aug 26 2022 15:31 utc | 18 The word swastika comes from Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक, romanized: svastika, meaning “conducive to well-being” – wikipedia.. Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 26 2022 15:33 utc | 19 The Screamin Eagles are headed to Kiev in order to help all those drunk over worked US Embassy employees , to find their way home. lol But last month or two, the Pentagon said they were going to beef up the security around the Embassy. Actually, there is a nice big park next to the Embassy where they can sleep it off. Posted by: GMC | Aug 26 2022 15:35 utc | 20 Poland goes to war with Russia. Posted by: Fíréan | Aug 26 2022 15:38 utc | 21 @Posted by: fnord | Aug 26 2022 14:56 utc | 9 James no. 16 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Aug 26 2022 15:49 utc | 23 I follow British media and can read that panic is spreading around about exploding energy bills, and mind you we are still in August. I suspect the same is happening elsewhere in Europe. I expect the Russian timing is going to be perfect this autumn. There will be a decisive offensive in Ukraine to coincide with beginning of the winter at the same time tightening of the pain dial in terms of oil and gas deliveries (they might stop selling both oil and gas at some point). This all timed to US mid term elections. Watch this space! Posted by: Milos | Aug 26 2022 15:57 utc | 24 @ Fíréan | Aug 26 2022 15:38 utc | 22 Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 16:00 utc | 25 The Hal Turner article says nothing about where the Ft. Campbell troops are going! Posted by: BW | Aug 26 2022 16:00 utc | 26 @Posted by: Roger | Aug 26 2022 15:47 utc | 23 @ Peter Schmidt | Aug 26 2022 15:31 utc | 19 and @ Bemildred | Aug 26 2022 15:33 utc | 20 Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 16:01 utc | 28 The German for “swastika” also has a hook in it. “Hakenkreuz” means “hooked cross”. Posted by: Lysias | Aug 26 2022 16:04 utc | 29 I just read about people from the Baltic beating up Ukrainians in Ireland, seems there may be no love lost between them; its not just the Russians they hate. On a historical basis, there a whole bunch of nationalities that the Baltic people could direct their hate at. Same for the Banderistas in Western Ukraine. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 16:09 utc | 30 Scorpion | Aug 26 2022 14:24 utc | 293 Posted by: Gerrard White | Aug 26 2022 16:10 utc | 31 Fíréan no. 22 Posted by: ThusspaeZarathustra | Aug 26 2022 16:27 utc | 32 Posted by: pavi | Aug 26 2022 15:08 utc | 11 Posted by: Nobody | Aug 26 2022 16:35 utc | 33 Posted by: pavi | Aug 26 2022 15:08 utc | 11 Posted by: Nobody | Aug 26 2022 16:35 utc | 34 Roger @28– Irrespective of the “noble” history of thr symbol, the Germans besmirched it on an historical scale and it will take the deaths of everyone affected by it before it can ever be reclaimed by global society. That means everyone who lived through the war, plus their children, and their children’s children. Add another generation or three for the citizens of the Israeli nation founded as a result and you probably arrive at the point where it become just another historical curiosity like the Horus falcon of Egypt, the Boar of Scythia or the Eagle of Rome. So we are probably at the second half of this century before that occurs. The point being it becomes disassociated from any emotion connected with events of the era, which takes generations to accomplish. Posted by: Prof E | Aug 26 2022 16:49 utc | 36 Sorry for the redundant posts, need a new mouse. Posted by: Nobody | Aug 26 2022 16:57 utc | 37 10th hit in the area of the storage today. No damage yet, said authorities. Posted by: rk | Aug 26 2022 17:03 utc | 38 JustAnotherAussie @ 8 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 26 2022 17:09 utc | 39 @Nobody | Aug 26 2022 16:35 utc | 35 Posted by: aquadraht | Aug 26 2022 17:12 utc | 40 Despite information on any given subject arriving at the click of a mouse or finger it appears that the Great Unwashed of Europe and North America are as ignorant as they were 100 years ago. Posted by: WTFUD | Aug 26 2022 17:14 utc | 41 Man, even Finnish paper industry reducing toilet paper production citing “energy”. Things are really, really bad. The list of items requiring gas to sustain modern civilization is very high. Just sayin’. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 17:19 utc | 42 Sputnik reports on blowback from the newest Myrotvorets hit list that named numerous Americans:
I wonder if additional letters containing more provocative language were sent; I certainly would as I’d directly accuse the US Government of funding a terrorist organization that directly threatens citizens. And I’d certainly make it public. Ukrainian weapons systems destroyed¹ by week (chart) Week Air Hel UAV SAMS AFV MRL Art Veh Legend: Air Aircraft Hel Helicopters UAV Unmanned aerial vehicles SAMS Surface-to-air missile systems AFV Armoured fighting vehicles (tanks, IFVs, APCs, etc.) MRL Multiple rocket launchers Art Field artillery pieces and mortars⁴ Veh Special military vehicles (non-armoured vehicles) ¹ I think that by “destroyed” Russian MoD means “hit”, i.e., some systems are truly destroyed, while others are only damaged and re-enter service after repairs. Posted by: S | Aug 26 2022 17:27 utc | 44 Wherever the swastika came from, it’s mirror image is used in Korean Buddhism. I saw it myself on the temples in the neighborhood in the south of Seoul. Also saw real swastika Nazi flags and Nazi paraphernalia for sale at multiple locations in Itaewon right outside the Yongsan US military base before it was closed. I saw real full size Nazi eagles just like some Triumph of the Will BS as decorations outside the US mil clubs in Itaewon. With US mil police providing security for the club. None of this is controversial. Posted by: Wester | Aug 26 2022 17:35 utc | 45 james | Aug 26 2022 2:10 utc | 195, 300 Posted by: Deep Woods | Aug 26 2022 17:37 utc | 46 #2 Posted by: paxmark1 | Aug 26 2022 17:39 utc | 47 Azerbaijan captures Lachin. The unraveling of the ceasefire over the past few months is an under-covered story IMO (as was the entire Nagorno-Karabakh war, frankly). Although I’m not sure this advance was contested under arms by Armenia: Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 26 2022 17:59 utc | 49 This week’s Strategic Culture editorial uses the UNSC meeting on Ukraine as its focal point in arguing “The Futility of Dialogue With Idiots & Liars.” In the process, it presents the following logic that’s very difficult to refute:
I agree with the contention the NATO always wanted a war to spring forth from the Ukraine coup, and that it was very prudent for Putin to withhold Russia’s confrontation with NATO until it was fully prepared. Putin and team also correctly forecast the sanctions that would be levied and did as much as they could as part of Russia’s preparation. Yes, negotiations by NATO back in December would have proven more favorable to it than what will be faced at the conclusion of the SMO. It’s very possible NATO and EU will be so destabilized that they’ll crumble, which IMO is an unspoken goal for Russia. Based on Zelensky’s own idiocy there won’t be any negotiations, just capitulation at some point in 2023. I doubt he’ll have Hitler’s courage to kill himself. He’ll either be murdered or escape to Florida or Toronto. The Europe he abandons will be very different and no longer led by idiots and liars. The swastika banner is not just the “Heugenkreuss” (The hooked cross) It also comprises the white circular dial as the background to the cross and the blood red field, which suggest the blood shed in vain by Germans in WWII Posted by: Callmelennie | Aug 26 2022 18:06 utc | 51 Oops .. that would be blood shed in vain in WWI .. due to the treachery of the scapegoated Jews and Communists Posted by: Callmelennie | Aug 26 2022 18:08 utc | 52 Here is a nice piece from (sorry) counterpunch that helps explain the ongoing suicide of Germany and the EU. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Posted by: c | Aug 26 2022 18:10 utc | 53 oops! Posted by: c | Aug 26 2022 18:16 utc | 54 karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 18:01 utc | 51 Posted by: john | Aug 26 2022 18:23 utc | 55 Historical moment: The price of gas crossed the threshold of $3,500 per 1,000 cubic meters and went further… Posted by: rp | Aug 26 2022 18:28 utc | 56 Example : Posted by: mon3 | Aug 26 2022 18:42 utc | 57 Not sure as to the accuracy of “according to testimonies” reports that regular army Polish troops are now fighting in Ukraine: Posted by: Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 18:55 utc | 58 Re: 33 Posted by: Angelo | Aug 26 2022 19:10 utc | 59 My #59: Posted by: Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 19:13 utc | 60 Has this been posted already? It’s about the cocaine flowing freely in Ukr. Supposedly there is a video also in which Oleksiy Arestovich defends its use for the comedienne. If anyone has the link, could you provide it? Posted by: Here and There | Aug 26 2022 19:27 utc | 61 Czech Republic Calls Emergency EU Meeting On Energy Crisis
Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 26 2022 19:27 utc | 62 The Ukraine war will not end in 2023, it will spill over into 2024. Washington will keep feeding weapons and bribes such that Kiev continues the senseless slaughter Posted by: Exile | Aug 26 2022 19:45 utc | 63
What the unfriendly countries of the “collective West” have is not exactly Russophobia, but Russo-hatred. Maybe they are afraid of Russia and the Russians, so they have a phobia, what they show/feel is even worse type of sickness — hatred, which is incurable! Posted by: rp | Aug 26 2022 19:46 utc | 64 Not one ship has gone to Africa, all to Western countries or China! Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 26 2022 19:55 utc | 65 Clausewitz | Aug 26 2022 19:21 utc | 62 Posted by: Milos | Aug 26 2022 19:59 utc | 66 Posted by: Milos | Aug 26 2022 19:59 utc | 68 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 20:11 utc | 67 Clausewitz | Aug 26 2022 19:21 utc | 62 Posted by: Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 20:21 utc | 68 Posted by: Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 20:21 utc | 70 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 20:28 utc | 69 Swastikas are all over Chicago in brick, tile, stone. Anywhere there were German or Germanic trades working. From 1880s to 1930s but mostly in the earlier years. Many were covered over during WWII. Many were not. Common as dirt. Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 26 2022 20:48 utc | 71 The tearing down of soviet monuments in the Baltic states somehow reminds me of the following: Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Aug 26 2022 20:59 utc | 72 Posted by: Gerrard White | Aug 26 2022 16:10 utc | 32 Clausewitz @62–
I thank the barfly that suggested I repost this speech, as well as the troll who chastised me for not doing so immediately because at times I do have other duties. Don Bacon @64– The United States is preparing a military operation in Ukraine. Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 21:41 utc | 77 Irrespective of the “noble” history of thr symbol, the Germans besmirched it on an historical scale and it will take the deaths of everyone affected by it before it can ever be reclaimed by global society. That means everyone who lived through the war, plus their children, and their children’s children. Add another generation or three for the citizens of the Israeli nation founded as a result and you probably arrive at the point where it become just another historical curiosity like the Horus falcon of Egypt, the Boar of Scythia or the Eagle of Rome. So we are probably at the second half of this century before that occurs. The point being it becomes disassociated from any emotion connected with events of the era, which takes generations to accomplish. Posted by: RB | Aug 26 2022 21:47 utc | 78 Posted by: mon3 | Aug 26 2022 18:42 utc | 58 Posted by: CM of Berlin | Aug 26 2022 21:51 utc | 79 @ karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 17:22 utc | 44 Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 22:10 utc | 80 I should note my analysis @51 was done prior to my reading Pepe Escobar’s newest, “All the Way to Odessa”. He paraphrases Medvedev’s recent Telegram:
Indeed, how long will Z remain. Pepe seems to think he’ll be replaced. The grain charade has run its course, so capturing Odessa seems an easy choice, although the task might be difficult. Perhaps it’s time for Zelensky to lead his troops in an assault. Just load him with captagon and he’ll be fine until he falls. Robert | Aug 26 2022 21:41 utc | 81 Posted by: Javo | Aug 26 2022 22:15 utc | 82 Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 21:41 utc Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 26 2022 22:17 utc | 83 @ james | Aug 26 2022 22:10 utc | 87 Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:18 utc | 84 karlof1 88 Posted by: Steve | Aug 26 2022 22:18 utc | 85 The next Donbass … to be created by the ‘Swamp’ will be Finland … I have said this before in these hallowed halls & I repeat it again now. Posted by: Per Terram | Aug 26 2022 22:19 utc | 86 @ Old canadian | Aug 26 2022 22:17 utc | 90 Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:22 utc | 87 Posted by: Village_Boy | Aug 26 2022 21:43 utc | 82 Posted by: watcher | Aug 26 2022 22:22 utc | 88 Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:18 utc | 91 Posted by: Bill | Aug 26 2022 22:26 utc | 89 Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 21:41 utc | 81 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 22:31 utc | 90 @ Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:18 utc | 91 Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 22:32 utc | 91 @ Bill | Aug 26 2022 22:26 utc | 96 Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:32 utc | 92 james #16 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 26 2022 22:33 utc | 93 @ unimperator | Aug 26 2022 22:31 utc | 97 Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:35 utc | 94 @ unimperator | Aug 26 2022 22:31 utc | 97 Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:37 utc | 95 Wonderful post over at the the Saker Posted by: Marina | Aug 26 2022 22:48 utc | 96 @ karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 21:24 utc | 77 Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 26 2022 22:48 utc | 97 @23 Roger Posted by: Xeen | Aug 26 2022 23:00 utc | 98 Rudyard Kipling used the swastika, pointing it to the right and the left, as his personal symbol for 40 years, in great part as tribute to his father, an artist, teacher, and scholar of Hindu literature. But when the Nazis adopted it, he ordered it removed saying it was now “defiled beyond redemption”. Seem more here: https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/facts_swastika.htm Posted by: Harold | Aug 26 2022 23:09 utc | 99 @Posted by: Xeen | Aug 26 2022 23:00 utc | 105 |
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