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August 26, 2022

Ukraine Open Thread 2022-139

Only for news & views related to the Ukraine conflict.

Note: Stick to the topic or get banned.

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Europe is toast. The US isn't far behind. Thank you, Russia.

Posted by: Leroy | Aug 26 2022 14:21 utc | 1

Halturnerradioshow.com claims elite US Army units from Fort Campbell (KY.) en route to Kiev does this mean US intervention in the Ukraine. Time will tell.

Posted by: Lou Cypher | Aug 26 2022 14:26 utc | 2

BBC prime news 10 PM Wed 24th. With full military experts.
Ukrainian casualties so far 9,000
Russian casualties so far 26,000 plus
These are the numbers the Brits are believing and calculating with.
Now you know

Posted by: boindub | Aug 26 2022 14:26 utc | 3

Interesting read from Engdahl

Finally, taking advantage of the covid lockdown restrictions and bans on public protests, in May 2021 Zelenskyy signed Bill No. 2194, deregulating land, calling it the “key” to the “farmland market.” He was right. In a sneaky move to calm farmer opposition, Zelensky claimed the new law allows only Ukrainian citizens to buy or sell the valuable farmland in the first few years.

He did not mention the huge loophole allowing foreign-owned companies like Monsanto (today part of Bayer AG) or DuPont (now Corteva), or other companies which have been operating in Ukraine more than three years, to also buy the desired land.

The 2021 law also gave ownership to notoriously corrupt municipal and village governments who can change the land purpose. After January 2024 Ukraine citizens as well as corporations can buy up to 10,000 hectares of land. And an April, 2021 amendment to the land market law– “On Amendments to the Land Code of Ukraine and other Legislative Acts concerning the improvement of the management system and deregulation in the field of land relations”– opened another huge loophole for foreign agribusiness to take control of the rich Ukraine black earth.

The amendment circumvents the ban on sale of land to foreigners by changing the purpose of the land, say from cropland to commercial land. Then it can be sold to anyone, including foreigners who can in turn repurpose it to farmland. Zelenskyy signed the bill and went back on his campaign pledge to hold a national referendum on any change in land ownership.

Whose Grain Is Being Shipped From Ukraine?

Posted by: Down South | Aug 26 2022 14:33 utc | 4

4 shells hit the area of the storage of radioactive isotopes. Radiation level at the NPP remains normal - Sputnik

Posted by: rk | Aug 26 2022 14:40 utc | 5

From the BBC, the paragon of journalistic integrity. :-)

"Latvia's parliament has voted to remove all remaining Soviet statues and plaques.

The country has joined Estonia in bringing down World War Two memorials in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Demolition machinery was used to remove the 79-metre (259-foot) monument."

What next?? How about, all the Baltics adopt the Finnish hakaristi as a gesture of defiance towards Moscow.

Posted by: DilNir | Aug 26 2022 14:41 utc | 6

Down South @4

Void all agricultural land titles of foreign-owned corporations with leave for them to file applications for compensation.

Posted by: Lawrence Miller | Aug 26 2022 14:54 utc | 7

@Lou Cypher | Aug 26 2022 14:26 utc | 2

Halturnerradioshow.com claims elite US Army units from Fort Campbell (KY.) en route to Kiev does this mean US intervention in the Ukraine. Time will tell.

Hal Turner is renowned for his made up BS and failed predictions. I have never seen anything he said turn out to be true.

Posted by: JustAnotherAussie | Aug 26 2022 14:55 utc | 8

The removal of monuments to the Red Army in countries whose governments are run by right-wing nationalists is a sign of the re-emergence of revanchist nationalism in Europe. The fact that it's done out of some kind of anti-Russian sentiment is bizarre as the Red Army was internationalist at its core. This should be read as a rejection of internationalism and not merely as Russophobia (although, certainly, there is a Russophobic element which Baltic and East European nationalists are playing on).

Posted by: fnord | Aug 26 2022 14:56 utc | 9

The authorities of the liberated territory of the Zaporozhye region reported that as a result of Ukrainian shelling, all power lines were cut off, through which energy from the ZNPP went to Ukraine, and now there is no possibility to supply electricity from the ZNPP to Ukraine. This means a one-time reduction in the total generation of Ukraine by 20%. Therefore, instead of plans to "sell electricity to Europe", the puppet regime will have to deal with the search for electricity to replace the lost capacity. And this is even without considering the likelihood of a strike by the RF Armed Forces on some TPPs (in response to the shelling of the ZNPP), which will automatically bring the situation in the energy sector of Ukraine to the brink of disaster. - Intel Slava Z 05:23

Posted by: Gilbert | Aug 26 2022 15:06 utc | 10

@dilnir 6.
Obviously you are a finn, because you are able to write "hakaristi",instead of swastika. Well, then you should also be familiar origin of the sign. It was taken from family arms of the german count who donated first aircraft for finnish airforce way before WWII and has nothing to do with the nazis.

Posted by: pavi | Aug 26 2022 15:08 utc | 11

the swastika was a religious symbol taken and used by both finland and germany.... not sure why it is not okay to use the finnish word for it, which is what i think hakaristi stands for... i don't know the origin of the word itself, but doubt very much it is a german word..

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 15:14 utc | 12

The word swastika comes from Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक, romanized: svastika, meaning "conducive to well-being" - wikipedia..

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 15:15 utc | 13

"Four shells hit the area of the storage of radioactive isotopes after shelling the territory of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant by Ukrainian troops."

BBC radio news spinning this a Russian forces did the shelling then decided to cut the power from the ZNPP.

https://ria.ru/20220826/zaes-1812368961.html

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 26 2022 15:22 utc | 14

Another angle on my (14) comment and yet again its the Ukrainian forces that are causing the problems.


"The Ukrainian side has interrupted the last, fourth line of energy transmission from the Zaporizhzhya NPP, deliveries there are now impossible, Reported member of the main council of the new military-civil administration of the region Vladimir Rogov.


Power outages in these regions occurred on Thursday due to a short circuit in the network after shelling from the side. Mat and fires in Enerhodare. Because of this, the safety systems worked at the nuclear power plant, two power units were disconnected from the network. Subsequently, the supply of the regions was resumed.
ZNPP is located on the left bank Dnieper, next to Energodar. This is the largest in terms of the number of units and installed capacity of nuclear power plants in Europe. "

https://ria.ru/20220826/zaes-1812271325.html

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 26 2022 15:25 utc | 15

from voltaire.net - Poland goes to war with Russia

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 15:29 utc | 16

@DilNir | Aug 26 2022 14:41 utc | 6

What's next? Other countries will start to remove some monuments. Two days ago Moldova, after receiving a delay for payments from Gazprom, has turned off the Eternal Flame monument. A nice spit in the face for the dumbo that approved the delay.
Then they'll start evacuating Russians and "Russian supporters" from Baltics and Nordic countries, more or less by force. BTW, Taiwan has sent a lot of attack drones to Ukr now, a model that can carry multiple little bombs, perfect for Donetsk or Crimea.

Posted by: rk | Aug 26 2022 15:30 utc | 17

James@12 it might mean 'hook'. In Hungarian it is 'horogkereszt'. The first part of the word is hook, the second is cross. I'm originally from Hungary, Hungarian and Finn are distant relatives.

Posted by: Peter Schmidt | Aug 26 2022 15:31 utc | 18

The word swastika comes from Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक, romanized: svastika, meaning "conducive to well-being" - wikipedia..

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 15:15 utc | 13

Yes. I have a 22 volume edition of Rudyard Kipling re-bound in 11 (from my father, a scot), the inside pages of which are littered with 1-1/2" swastikas. Pre-Nazi. Nothing to do with Nazis. I was taken aback when I first found it.

I have all of R. L. Stevenson, similarly bound (no swastikas).

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 26 2022 15:33 utc | 19

The Screamin Eagles are headed to Kiev in order to help all those drunk over worked US Embassy employees , to find their way home. lol But last month or two, the Pentagon said they were going to beef up the security around the Embassy. Actually, there is a nice big park next to the Embassy where they can sleep it off.

Posted by: GMC | Aug 26 2022 15:35 utc | 20

Poland goes to war with Russia.
Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 15:29 utc | 16

Your link, sir, goes 404

Here is another post of same, with correction.

https://www.voltairenet.org/article217841.html

Posted with goodwill and intent.

Posted by: Fíréan | Aug 26 2022 15:38 utc | 21

@Posted by: fnord | Aug 26 2022 14:56 utc | 9

A very good point, and a very worrying one. We have also seen this with the repressed Catalan independence movement in Spain. If the economic pain for Europe is going to span multiple years of "doing with less" as the neoliberal Macron puts it, and with the left and Greens spent as a force for the good of the working class in Europe, the door is wide open for the right wing nationalists.

The set up is eerily like that of Germany in the 1920s, with the possibility of both Italy and Bulgaria electing right-wing nationalist governments in rejection of the neoliberal elites that had been put in place, to add to Hungary. Of course, Poland and the Baltic States are far down the path of xenophobic right-wing nationalism. Then of course we will have the lunatic "global Britain" nationalist Truss at the head of the UK. In such an environment the EU will either fragment or will become a much lesser entity as individual countries reclaim legal and economic sovereignty. The same for NATO, with the "sitting on the fence" Turkey being a good example of the possible future.

I just read about people from the Baltic beating up Ukrainians in Ireland, seems there may be no love lost between them; its not just the Russians they hate. On a historical basis, there a whole bunch of nationalities that the Baltic people could direct their hate at. Same for the Banderistas in Western Ukraine.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 26 2022 15:47 utc | 22

James no. 16

I got an "error 404" on that link.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Aug 26 2022 15:49 utc | 23

I follow British media and can read that panic is spreading around about exploding energy bills, and mind you we are still in August. I suspect the same is happening elsewhere in Europe. I expect the Russian timing is going to be perfect this autumn. There will be a decisive offensive in Ukraine to coincide with beginning of the winter at the same time tightening of the pain dial in terms of oil and gas deliveries (they might stop selling both oil and gas at some point). This all timed to US mid term elections. Watch this space!

Posted by: Milos | Aug 26 2022 15:57 utc | 24

@ Fíréan | Aug 26 2022 15:38 utc | 22

thanks!
@ ThusspakeZarathustra | Aug 26 2022 15:49 utc | 24

here is the link again without the details as given @ 22 by Fíréan

https://www.voltairenet.org/article217841.html

in the fwiw dept - a long story on someone from the west traveling from poland to ukraine and stopping off for a chunk of time in Mykolaiv...

i take it as mostly propaganda mixed with some reality, but it is interesting regardless...

BLAST EFFECTS: IN MYKOLAIV – JAMES MEEK REPORTS FROM UKRAINE

probably the same james meek - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Meek_(author)

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 16:00 utc | 25

The Hal Turner article says nothing about where the Ft. Campbell troops are going!
Just the facts.

Posted by: BW | Aug 26 2022 16:00 utc | 26

@Posted by: Roger | Aug 26 2022 15:47 utc | 23

We will be seeing a full test of "Democratic Peace Theory" that states that (white Western) democracies do not go to war with each other. Of course the real reason that Europe was peaceful in the post-WW2 era was the security umbrella and occupation forces of the US and the Soviet Union that kept a lid on things, and forced economic, social and political changes that helped remove much of the nationalist xenophobia. Same goes for Japan.

The fall of the Soviet Union removed that lid, resulting in disintegration of the Soviet Union into many nation-states. The US and Germany/France/UK then helped things along by facilitating the nationalist disintegration of Yugoslavia. By creating a deep economic crisis in Europe, after more than a decade of painful stagnation, the US and their comprador European elite puppies may break the EU and NATO all by themselves. Russia should be happy to push this process along, the current cost of electricity in Europe at the oil equivalent of over US$1,200 for a barrel of oil is a wrecking ball.

Decades from now some historian may write about "the suicide of Europe". A suicide which may create a more pliable set of vassals for the US (a questionable assumption), but will greatly reduce the power of the West vs. the Rest - both in material and reputational/cultural terms.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 26 2022 16:00 utc | 27

@ Peter Schmidt | Aug 26 2022 15:31 utc | 19 and @ Bemildred | Aug 26 2022 15:33 utc | 20

thanks.... apparently a lot of people still don't know the history of the use of the symbol..

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 16:01 utc | 28

The German for "swastika" also has a hook in it. "Hakenkreuz" means "hooked cross".

Posted by: Lysias | Aug 26 2022 16:04 utc | 29

I just read about people from the Baltic beating up Ukrainians in Ireland, seems there may be no love lost between them; its not just the Russians they hate. On a historical basis, there a whole bunch of nationalities that the Baltic people could direct their hate at. Same for the Banderistas in Western Ukraine.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 26 2022 15:47 utc | 23

Yes, the "European unity with Ukraine" is a myth formulated by WEF controlled MSM. They always like to claim that majority of population supports what WEF wants to do through artificial polls, interviews and any other potential propaganda.

The truth is that some ultra neo liberals "support" Ukraine due to their hate of Russians, and maybe some far right crazies. Once it turns out to be they can't defeat the Russian combined arms formations, they just start getting on each others throats as old conflicts surface. Also the arrogance and sense of entitlements for many Ukrainian refugees won't help quelling that.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 16:09 utc | 30

Scorpion | Aug 26 2022 14:24 utc | 293

From the last Uk thread

« With respect, that's distinction without difference. »

That is not exactly the case – when one talks of peoples or countries colonised, it is usually to forgive, or discount, their failure to resist, then to attribute to superior force the subordination of their will to that of the invade, to deny complicity in the subserviance and spoliation

That the subjected country’s ruling classes were usually in connivance with the coloniser is not much mentioned in these days of reparations

This USEU case is only slightly different in that all EU classes, as one, are in self satisfied connivance with the coloniser, as if hitching a ride were to be driving, despite having no idea in which direction

The various constructs of the multi country alliances both trade and security being formed across Asia and outwards are, as you suggest, perhaps the only hope for a ruined and submissive Europe to reconsitute adoption of alternative politics and economics, and a sense of collective autonomy

To take the Africa example – most of the continent largely prostrated before various neo forms of extractive capitalism politics and financial servitudes has, as a direct result of this war, been able to see this, has been courted, and has been made aware of the residual strength of it’s scale, populations, resources and collective power

The coagulated ruling classes, as if frozen soviet style in a sterile bureaucratic monotheism, have been given a stark choice, and this has filtered down to the people : witness the crowds celebrating the departure of the French the arrival of the Russians in Mali

The countries of central Asia have had to formulate the sense and construct of popular nationhood across different tribal groups, ditto in Africa – there’s no reason a ruined and collapsed Europe should not this time properly be able to do so, especially given the (lessons of) failures of the attempts after the previous two european wars, the latter of which put in place the basic outlines of the current US colonisation

If this war does not already show the superiority of the Russian model, not a new invention but one in familar use until relatively recently, then defeat will

Posted by: Gerrard White | Aug 26 2022 16:10 utc | 31

Fíréan no. 22

That link worked. Btw, there is a film entitled "hatred -murder of the innocent" (banned in ukraine) which depicts the 1943 Volhynian tragedy in which 60,000 poles were murdered by ukranian nationalists under german occupation.

Posted by: ThusspaeZarathustra | Aug 26 2022 16:27 utc | 32

Posted by: pavi | Aug 26 2022 15:08 utc | 11

It was taken from family arms of the german count who donated first aircraft for finnish airforce...

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It was taken from family arms of the Swedish count who donated first aircraft for finnish airforce...

FTFY.

Count Carl Gustaf Bloomfield Eric von Rosen to be precise, the later brother-in-law of Hermann Göhring. The hakaristi may not be associated with National Socialist symbolism, but that does not change the fact that the people involved were of a similar mindset.

Posted by: Nobody | Aug 26 2022 16:35 utc | 33

Posted by: pavi | Aug 26 2022 15:08 utc | 11

It was taken from family arms of the german count who donated first aircraft for finnish airforce...

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It was taken from family arms of the Swedish count who donated first aircraft for finnish airforce...

FTFY.

Count Carl Gustaf Bloomfield Eric von Rosen to be precise, the later brother-in-law of Hermann Göhring. The hakaristi may not be associated with National Socialist symbolism, but that does not change the fact that the people involved were of a similar mindset.

Posted by: Nobody | Aug 26 2022 16:35 utc | 34

Roger @28--

Decades from now some historian may write about "the suicide of Europe"

Hmmm.... Hudson's calling it murder. Given counterexamples exist--Hungary first and foremost--IMO, Hudson's correct. The pertinent question, IMO: Which European nation will revolt first?

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 16:42 utc | 35

Irrespective of the "noble" history of thr symbol, the Germans besmirched it on an historical scale and it will take the deaths of everyone affected by it before it can ever be reclaimed by global society. That means everyone who lived through the war, plus their children, and their children's children. Add another generation or three for the citizens of the Israeli nation founded as a result and you probably arrive at the point where it become just another historical curiosity like the Horus falcon of Egypt, the Boar of Scythia or the Eagle of Rome. So we are probably at the second half of this century before that occurs. The point being it becomes disassociated from any emotion connected with events of the era, which takes generations to accomplish.

Posted by: Prof E | Aug 26 2022 16:49 utc | 36

Sorry for the redundant posts, need a new mouse.

I am already busy saving.

Posted by: Nobody | Aug 26 2022 16:57 utc | 37

10th hit in the area of the storage today. No damage yet, said authorities.

Posted by: rk | Aug 26 2022 17:03 utc | 38

JustAnotherAussie @ 8
Correct, Hal Turner is pure disinformation. The 101 is not going to Kiev, I am sure of that if Hal Turner said they are is is pure BS.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 26 2022 17:09 utc | 39

@Nobody | Aug 26 2022 16:35 utc | 35
Von Rosen was Swede, and extreme right winger, one of the major supporters of National Socialism in Sweden. He got less vocal after 1938, allegedly due to disapproval of Nazi invasion of Czechoslovakia in late 1938. This maybe posthumous apologetics though.

The svastika at that time was the sign of German armed extreme right wing "Freikorps" mercenaries, who later murdered Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht, and committed innumerous crimes of arson, rape, torture and massacres in the civil wars in the Baltics. They were proto-Nazis later forming the core of SA and SS. So their svastika, no less than the finnish one, were certainly no "noble" sign but foreboding what the Nazis did later in eastern europe.

Posted by: aquadraht | Aug 26 2022 17:12 utc | 40

Despite information on any given subject arriving at the click of a mouse or finger it appears that the Great Unwashed of Europe and North America are as ignorant as they were 100 years ago.

Yes I know the demonic powers-that-be are spreading alarming disinformation 24/7 but this is no excuse for the apathy and indolence of the masses who watch on from the sidelines as their governments ride roughshod over them.

A decade or more of suffering may do them all good, well the ones who survive.

Posted by: WTFUD | Aug 26 2022 17:14 utc | 41

Man, even Finnish paper industry reducing toilet paper production citing "energy". Things are really, really bad. The list of items requiring gas to sustain modern civilization is very high. Just sayin'.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 17:19 utc | 42

Sputnik reports on blowback from the newest Myrotvorets hit list that named numerous Americans:

A group of 16 American citizens including former politicians and military service-members are asking Congress to take action after a Ukrainian government agency published a blacklist of persons it accuses of promoting "Russian propaganda," a letter obtained by Sputnik showed on Thursday.

"We the undersigned American citizens, all of whom were included on the 'Black List' issued on July 14 by the Ukrainian government office, the Center for Countering Disinformation (CCD) … have been accused of promoting 'Russian propaganda,' and declared to be 'information terrorists' and 'war criminals' by this foreign entity," the letter read.

"We call on your Committee to exercise your oversight of the use of taxpayer funds by investigating the funding of this foreign government agency and their role in directly threatening Americans’ rights and safety," the letter said.

The letter was delivered to the chairs and ranking members of the House and Senate committees of foreign affairs, the judiciary and intelligence as well as emailed to the office of each member of those committees.

I wonder if additional letters containing more provocative language were sent; I certainly would as I'd directly accuse the US Government of funding a terrorist organization that directly threatens citizens. And I'd certainly make it public.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 17:22 utc | 43

Ukrainian weapons systems destroyed¹ by week (chart)

Week             Air Hel  UAV SAMS  AFV  MRL  Art  Veh
Feb 24 – Mar 2 62 ² 53 39 606 67 227 405 Mar 3 – Mar 9 35 ² 54 102 380 40 141 344 Mar 10 – Mar 16 14 13 65 29 393 26 146 419 Mar 17 – Mar 23 1 2 85 32 193 27 119 211 Mar 24 – Mar 30 12 5 84 14 243 35 129 310 Mar 31 – Apr 6 1 18 75 11 188 25 107 213 Apr 7 – Apr 13 6 9 32 18 176 28 75 186 Apr 14 – Apr 20 9 2 63 9 231 14 102 171 Apr 21 – Apr 27 2 5 103 22 213 37 100 172 Apr 28 – May 4 7 1 112 12 211 26 160 215 May 5 – May 11 15 13 95 15 179 39 165 178 May 12 – May 18 8 0 121 10 145 31 91 202 May 19 – May 25 7 2 77 10 108 38 120 164 May 26 – Jun 1 7 2 65 4 107 27 70 160 Jun 2 – Jun 8 7 1 79 9 98 33 82 162 Jun 9 – Jun 15 11 1 55 4 98 33 134 135 Jun 16 – Jun 22 7 1 111 9 181 121 120 171 Jun 23 – Jun 29 13 2 71 4 109 51 971³ 98 Jun 30 – Jul 6 10 3 79 0 76 26 43 148 Jul 7 – Jul 13 15 0 55 1 115 20 43 228 Jul 14 – Jul 20 11 7 43 2 85 18 29 121 Jul 21 – Jul 27 0 1 48 3 37 2 33 102 Jul 28 – Aug 3 1 0 48 2 72 22 44 181 Aug 4 – Aug 10 6 1 54 4 43 11 39 124 Aug 11 – Aug 17 0 2 30 1 53 3 22 118 Aug 18 – Aug 24 6 0 51 3 44 19 28 110
Legend:
Air   Aircraft
Hel   Helicopters
UAV   Unmanned aerial vehicles
SAMS  Surface-to-air missile systems
AFV   Armoured fighting vehicles (tanks, IFVs, APCs, etc.)
MRL   Multiple rocket launchers
Art   Field artillery pieces and mortars⁴
Veh   Special military vehicles (non-armoured vehicles)

¹ I think that by “destroyed” Russian MoD means “hit”, i.e., some systems are truly destroyed, while others are only damaged and re-enter service after repairs.

² The total number of helicopters destroyed during the first two weeks (February 24 – March 9) is 57. Separate data for each week is not available.

³ According to Russian MoD, Russian forces have destroyed 914 field artillery pieces and mortars from the morning of June 23 until the morning of June 24. This must be either an error or a correction of previously published data.

⁴ It’s unclear whether self-propelled artillery is included in “AFV” or “Art”. I think it’s in “AFV”.

(Compiled from Russian MoD daily briefings. July 28 briefing is missing from the website, but is available on Telegram.)

Posted by: S | Aug 26 2022 17:27 utc | 44

Wherever the swastika came from, it's mirror image is used in Korean Buddhism. I saw it myself on the temples in the neighborhood in the south of Seoul. Also saw real swastika Nazi flags and Nazi paraphernalia for sale at multiple locations in Itaewon right outside the Yongsan US military base before it was closed. I saw real full size Nazi eagles just like some Triumph of the Will BS as decorations outside the US mil clubs in Itaewon. With US mil police providing security for the club. None of this is controversial.

Posted by: Wester | Aug 26 2022 17:35 utc | 45

james | Aug 26 2022 2:10 utc | 195, 300
circumspect | Aug 26 2022 2:22 utc | 197
Deep Woods | Aug 26 2022 2:45 utc | 202, 204, 206, 211, 225
Melaleuca | Aug 26 2022 3:09 utc | 207, 230
Exile | Aug 26 2022 6:05 utc | 226
Joe Walker | Aug 26 2022 7:22 utc | 238
? | Aug 26 2022 13:33 utc | 289

I took a very deep dive into an Nikolayev atlas and there are actually two separate villages called Blahodatne/Blagodatnoye. Given the fire control activity east of Nikolayev the UGS is probably referring to the village in eastern Nikolayev region southeast of Bilozirka, not the one in western Nikolayev region to the west of the river Bug. That puts the Russians about 35 km from the outskirts of Nikolayev from the east. If all this is accurate then it is unlikely the Russians have crossed the southern Bug as of yet and the Nikolayev coastline remains in Ukrainian hands, if only nominally.

Posted by: Deep Woods | Aug 26 2022 17:37 utc | 46

#2

Don't feed the nasty nisse , don't feed the troglodyte trolls.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Aug 26 2022 17:39 utc | 47

thanks to all your team Saker.

Posted by: James | Aug 26 2022 17:41 utc | 48

Azerbaijan captures Lachin. The unraveling of the ceasefire over the past few months is an under-covered story IMO (as was the entire Nagorno-Karabakh war, frankly). Although I'm not sure this advance was contested under arms by Armenia:

https://twitter.com/tinso_ww/status/1563217707100647424

Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 26 2022 17:59 utc | 49

This week's Strategic Culture editorial uses the UNSC meeting on Ukraine as its focal point in arguing "The Futility of Dialogue With Idiots & Liars." In the process, it presents the following logic that's very difficult to refute:

When Russia’s ambassador Vassily Nebenzia took his turn to set the record straight at the Security Council hearing, the Ukrainian leader refused to listen, his video link conveniently cut off.

Nevertheless, the Russian envoy presented the evidence of NATO-backed military strikes on the ZNPP and went on to cogently state that the crisis in Ukraine has been systematically instigated by the NATO powers and its Kiev proxy over the past eight years since the CIA-backed coup in 2014. Nebenzia remarked on how Western powers and the Kiev regime are living in a “parallel reality”.

It is common to hear these days how the world is subjected to a post-truth condition. In plainer language that means a world of lies, falsehoods, distortions, misinformation and disinformation. The crisis in Ukraine, the NATO powers and the Kiev regime are an embodiment of this fiendish reality.

Western regimes accuse Russia of unprovoked aggression in Ukraine. (The same regimes that have slaughtered their way through Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and continue to illegally bomb Syria, to name but a few victim nations.) They declare they are defending sovereignty and democracy. This is a preposterous charade that flies in the face of facts that the Western powers weaponized a Nazi regime in Ukraine to destabilize Russia. (An echo of how they weaponized Hitler’s Third Reich for the same purpose more than eight decades ago.) The Kiev regime has been killing its own people for eight years and committed countless war crimes. The relentless attacks on the ZNPP are totally consistent with the depraved conduct. Elsewhere, the NATO-backed regime has shelled chemical and oil plants in the Donbass territory. The Western media decline to report on these violations because that would reveal the criminal mentality and practice of the Kiev regime and its NATO sponsors.

Russia’s military operation to neutralize the growing NATO threat in Ukraine has been effective. The poisonous boil has been lanced and NATO’s decades-long aggressive expansionism against Russia has been checked. Yet Western media – the propaganda ministry that it is – claim that Russia’s intervention has been a failure. The United States and its NATO allies continue to flood Ukraine with offensive weapons even while the Kiev regime is using nuclear terrorism with these weapons and while Russian forces are destroying the Ukrainian military. That’s not a contradiction; it is a green light for more war and profits for the American military-industrial complex that underpins U.S. capitalism.

The entire crisis could have been avoided with much less loss of life if the NATO powers had responded to Russia’s long-held security concerns. But that assumes the NATO powers would have been interested in avoiding war. The damning conclusion is that the United States and its imperialist allies have always wanted the present war in order to pursue a geopolitical ambition of confronting Russia. In the same way that the U.S.-led axis wants to precipitate a war with China over Taiwan and other bogus issues.

American-led Western capitalism is addicted to war for its own ghoulish survival. A world of peaceful relations is fundamentally anathema to Washington and its vassals. But the ruling regimes can’t very well admit that pernicious motive, so they have to cover up their criminal agenda with deceptions about democracy, rules-based order, human rights and other laughable pretensions. Western media provide the necessary cosmetics for the ghoulish reality. The fact is wars and destruction are the oxygen for U.S. global power and its imperial lackeys. Dozens of wars since World War II waged by the U.S. and its international crime syndicate of NATO accomplices, especially its British henchman, attest to that naked, ugly truth. [My Emphasis]

I agree with the contention the NATO always wanted a war to spring forth from the Ukraine coup, and that it was very prudent for Putin to withhold Russia's confrontation with NATO until it was fully prepared. Putin and team also correctly forecast the sanctions that would be levied and did as much as they could as part of Russia's preparation. Yes, negotiations by NATO back in December would have proven more favorable to it than what will be faced at the conclusion of the SMO. It's very possible NATO and EU will be so destabilized that they'll crumble, which IMO is an unspoken goal for Russia. Based on Zelensky's own idiocy there won't be any negotiations, just capitulation at some point in 2023. I doubt he'll have Hitler's courage to kill himself. He'll either be murdered or escape to Florida or Toronto. The Europe he abandons will be very different and no longer led by idiots and liars.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 18:01 utc | 50

The swastika banner is not just the "Heugenkreuss" (The hooked cross) It also comprises the white circular dial as the background to the cross and the blood red field, which suggest the blood shed in vain by Germans in WWII

The dial suggest motion, meaning the hooked cross is in motion. Note that the heugenkreuss in the Nazi banner is not at 90 and 180 degress in relation to the banner. It is more like a hooked "X" suggesting the cross is moving and mincing up everything in its path

Posted by: Callmelennie | Aug 26 2022 18:06 utc | 51

Oops .. that would be blood shed in vain in WWI .. due to the treachery of the scapegoated Jews and Communists

Posted by: Callmelennie | Aug 26 2022 18:08 utc | 52

Here is a nice piece from (sorry) counterpunch that helps explain the ongoing suicide of Germany and the EU. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Posted by: c | Aug 26 2022 18:10 utc | 53

oops!
Tried to post a link but obviously did not do it right. Here is the address to paste in. It is an interesting read, especially for us ex-pats. https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/my-first-seventy-years-as-an-ex-pat/

Posted by: c | Aug 26 2022 18:16 utc | 54

karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 18:01 utc | 51

The Europe he abandons will be very different and no longer led by idiots and liars

Interesting concept, maybe kinda premature. Inshallah.

Posted by: john | Aug 26 2022 18:23 utc | 55

Historical moment: The price of gas crossed the threshold of $3,500 per 1,000 cubic meters and went further...

Posted by: rp | Aug 26 2022 18:28 utc | 56

Example :
Wheat delivery against world hunger from Ukraine...
All lies in the West!
Not one ship has gone to Africa, all to Western countries or China!
And if you ever find a ship with wheat as a cargo at the UNO, look at which port it comes from!
So far 2 ships with wheat in the list both came from Russian ports.
Not a single ship with wheat left Ukraine! And those who left ended up in western Turkey, Ireland, Italy, Korea
What did Western media and the USA tell us in advance?
In addition, all these crops come from farmland bought by US companies!
Also all lies that no European no German gets to hear...
But bad Russians...
No Koruper Zelenski and &
.
https://www.un.org/en/black-sea-grain-initiative/vessel-movements
.

Posted by: mon3 | Aug 26 2022 18:42 utc | 57

Not sure as to the accuracy of "according to testimonies" reports that regular army Polish troops are now fighting in Ukraine:

https://www.voltairenet.org/article217841.html

Current Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is pursuing exactly the same strategy. He made an alliance with Poland, pledging to hand over eastern Galicia in exchange for its commitment against Russia. History always repeats itself, to the detriment of the Ukrainian people.

It is impossible to grasp what is currently happening in Ukraine without knowing the history of the Ukrainian “integral nationalists” and their successive alliances with Poland and the Nazi Reich. Contrary to mainstream media claims, Russia is not fighting Ukraine, but the “integral nationalists” that it refers to as “neo-Nazis”.

Posted by: Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 18:55 utc | 58

Re: 33
I watched the movie HATRED. A most complicated movie that opened my eyes to what was a most difficult period in that part of Ukraine near the Polish border. At points I had to stop but always going back to continue watching

Other movies COME AND SEE, SEVEN BEAUTIES, TREE OF THE WOODEN CLOGS, 1900, FATE OF MAN and FATHER OF A SOLDIER to me were eye-openers.

Posted by: Angelo | Aug 26 2022 19:10 utc | 59

My #59:

Apologies, link was posted by James above.#16.

Posted by: Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 19:13 utc | 60

Has this been posted already? It's about the cocaine flowing freely in Ukr. Supposedly there is a video also in which Oleksiy Arestovich defends its use for the comedienne. If anyone has the link, could you provide it?

https://oopstop.com/cocaine-supplier-for-ukrainian-elite-detained-in-kyiv/?ysclid=l7auyox1ag215721557

Posted by: Here and There | Aug 26 2022 19:27 utc | 61

Czech Republic Calls Emergency EU Meeting On Energy Crisis

The Czech Republic, which holds the rotating Presidency of the European Union, will convene an urgent meeting of the energy ministers of the bloc to discuss specific emergency measures to address the energy situation, Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala said on Friday, as the energy crisis in the EU is worsening with prices rallying to new records.

Jozef Síkela, Minister of Industry and Trade of the Czech Republic, also tweeted on Friday, “We are in an energy war with Russia and it is damaging the whole EU. In agreement with the European Commission and Prime Minister Fiala, I will propose to convene an extraordinary meeting of the EU Energy Council at the earliest possible date.”

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 26 2022 19:27 utc | 62

The Ukraine war will not end in 2023, it will spill over into 2024. Washington will keep feeding weapons and bribes such that Kiev continues the senseless slaughter

Posted by: Exile | Aug 26 2022 19:45 utc | 63

A phobia is an excessive and irrational fear reaction. If you have a phobia, you may experience a deep sense of dread or panic when you encounter the source of your fear. The fear can be of a certain place, situation, or object. Unlike general anxiety disorders, a phobia is usually connected to something specific.

The impact of a phobia can range from annoying to severely disabling. People with phobias often realize their fear is irrational, but they’re unable to do anything about it.

What the unfriendly countries of the "collective West" have is not exactly Russophobia, but Russo-hatred. Maybe they are afraid of Russia and the Russians, so they have a phobia, what they show/feel is even worse type of sickness -- hatred, which is incurable!

If you watch the "leaders" of the collective West, and the editors/reporters of western MSM, you'd see that incurable sickness. If you watch them in the TV/videos, you'd feel/see that hatred pouring out of them. You don't even need to understand the language they are speaking in.

Posted by: rp | Aug 26 2022 19:46 utc | 64

Not one ship has gone to Africa, all to Western countries or China!
Posted by: mon3 | Aug 26 2022 18:42 utc | 58

ummm, the Republic of Korea alias South Korea is not yet even a de facto special autonomous region (SAR) recognized by the CPC. Neither are India, Türkiye, Lebanon, and Israel.

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 26 2022 19:55 utc | 65

Clausewitz | Aug 26 2022 19:21 utc | 62

Tend to agree with this assessment. It was the fact that Hilary Clinton lost the election and the plans were shelved. I am certain that this would be her first “project” to thank the deep state and MIC for helping her win the election. This would be the cherry on top of the cake that she proudly started by helping to destroy Libia.

Posted by: Milos | Aug 26 2022 19:59 utc | 66

Posted by: Milos | Aug 26 2022 19:59 utc | 68

If Killary or other swamp puppets come back, their first job will be to find another "Donbass" in Poland or the Baltic states to usher them into a war. They will try to neo-nazify those countries, and actually every country as much as possible to have a better shot at creating those provocations.

Far-right neo-nazism seems in the cards, unfortunately. But whether they will actually be loyal to the US? Uncertain. The economy will be a smoking ruin and they might not be in further position to go to battle. EU will most likely be a goner, just see the Poles fomenting rebellion in EU and calling members to ditch the euro.

But looking at the total sum, European economies will shrink significantly which will also have a huge impact on US strength.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 20:11 utc | 67

Clausewitz | Aug 26 2022 19:21 utc | 62
Posted by: Milos | Aug 26 2022 19:59 utc | 68
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 20:11 utc | 69

Agree with point of continuing conflict, chaos, provocation of war!

A point to keep in mind is that it is a virtual certainty that the nazis, the azovs are embedded in the flow of refugees; they are prob already well organized to initiate the "Plan", thanks to the murderous cia, mi6, mossad, sbu.

Posted by: Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 20:21 utc | 68

Posted by: Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 20:21 utc | 70

Maybe somewhat far-fetched but my guess is PTB will eventually figure something out and start turning MSM rhetoric against the ultra liberals (i.e. sacrifice liberalism) in order to promote nationalism. Liberalism has had a long comfortable ride so far... not so much in coming years in Europe.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 20:28 utc | 69

In German it is Hakenkreuz.
Hooked cross.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 26 2022 20:33 utc | 70

Swastikas are all over Chicago in brick, tile, stone. Anywhere there were German or Germanic trades working. From 1880s to 1930s but mostly in the earlier years. Many were covered over during WWII. Many were not. Common as dirt.

They are going away for good because those old buildings are being torn down.

Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 26 2022 20:48 utc | 71

The tearing down of soviet monuments in the Baltic states somehow reminds me of the following:
In the last couple of days German media reported about german ship wrecks from WW2 which resurfaced in the Danube in Serbia and in the Po river in Italy - due to the drought and low water levels.

Somehow this seems as symbolic to me as the tearing down of these monuments. As if nature tried to warn the people of Europe by resurfacing the wrecks of the last world war.

Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Aug 26 2022 20:59 utc | 72

Posted by: Gerrard White | Aug 26 2022 16:10 utc | 32

« With respect, that's distinction without difference. »

That is not exactly the case – when one talks of peoples or countries colonised, it is usually to forgive, or discount, their failure to resist, then to attribute to superior force the subordination of their will to that of the invade, to deny complicity in the subserviance and spoliation

That the subjected country’s ruling classes were usually in connivance with the coloniser is not much mentioned in these days of reparations

Maybe I misunderstood something but your last sentence is essentially echoing what I was thinking. In other words one could say that the US has colonized Europe or that the European elites have sold their own people out to the US but I would say that's a distinction without a difference.

Obviously in the case of defeat after war with a superior force followed by colonization blaming the defeated is a bit much. But what we have now in Europe is just the European leadership class betraying its own people (just as the US leadership class is doing the same to its own people). At some point the people are going to have to rise up (somehow) to kick their own leadership class out. The problem is partly the way any given class system has been allowed to run but mainly due to general immorality in the entire body politic so a reboot (Reset?!) is necessary similar to a Debt Jubilee in the usury realm.

[Perhaps what we need is a proven model for a society after the collapse phase - or maybe before thus eliminating the need for such a ghastly thing - such that it can start over. A tabula rasa constitution in effect for a decade during which period the country starts over. It has guidelines for how to do this, suggestions for how structure the pro-tem political and financial structures and so forth. In a way this is what's missing since otherwise the same group destroying the corrupt old order is supposed to be the same group building a new one even though they have no experience in doing so. We need an interim constitution template which all countries in the world entering the destruction-reboot phase can follow.]


If this war does not already show the superiority of the Russian model, not a new invention but one in familar use until relatively recently, then defeat will ...

Am not an expert but I get the feeling that the Russian constitution post-Yeltsin is both a return to cultural roots and a new way forward. They have republican institutions like a congress/duma, a President and Prime Minister, a Judiciary, a Military and so forth - not to mention private sector magnates, but they also favor a strong state with a strong President and indeed suspect their system won't survive long without one. But the system (which is the sum of many parts as with all systems) being what it is, perhaps it will throw up strong leaders in which case it will prove itself.

Look at the Western system these days: any strong leaders of note? Can't think of any in decades. Many laud Thatcher or Reagan but I don't think either has nearly the depth and vision of a Putin. Putin has emerged from within his own polity which went through bloody revolutions and several regime iterations before running out of steam in the early 90's because it needed to transition again but had lost its life force after too many wrong turns - or incomplete systems if you prefer. The country was ripe to go forward in a good way. Similar to China in the 1970's: they had overthrown the Emperor and his Dynasty system; they tried class-free communism and achieved some miracles but also had many shortcomings; and then finally they went forward in a way that seems to benefit hundreds of millions with acceptable corruption levels and remarkable agility considering their humongous population size. Their current model is unique as also, I believe, is Russia's.

The West could do the same. Go back to their roots which have something to do with being united by a common culture (used to be Christianity) but with delightful local flourishes including languages, dress styles, cuisines, flair, neuroses and so forth. A vibrant patchwork of independent, colourful but culturally linked states and regions. It might be fun to revive the aristocracy but do it by merit or election or something. Let every bund have its Furst/Prince, every burg/town its Baron and so forth. Cut most of the current nation states into different regions though each language area can have one President to represent its interests in the world and within Europe. Or something. Something which preserves and flourishes European culture whilst at the same time being modern and go-forward with the new technologies of all sorts.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 26 2022 21:23 utc | 73

Clausewitz @62--

Thanks for your reply. Given NATO's current level of performance, IMO the outcome in 2017-18 would differ little from that of today.

Last week, it was asked that I provide the speech where Putin announced Russia's new hypersonic weapons. The Russian language transcript of Putin's address to the Federal Assembly that took place 1 March 2018 is here. At page top is the video of the address. Pre-Covid, "The announcement of the Address was attended by members of the Federation Council, deputies of the State Duma, members of the Government, heads of the Constitutional and Supreme Courts, the gubernatorial corps, chairmen of legislative assemblies of the constituent entities of the Federation, heads of traditional faiths, public figures, including heads of public chambers of the regions, heads of major mass media." It's been several years since I referred to this speech. It's very informative to read it again today. The vast majority deals with domestic policy, which shouldn't be overlooked at all since we can measure Russia's performance over the years, and Russia has done extremely well. It's also very important to recall from that portion of the speech who Russia's development focus was aimed at--all Russians but significantly the elderly, the goal being to eliminate poverty. At the time, Putin's suggestions and goals were seen as being very bold and he tied those goals to Russia's security--Russia needed to attain them to ensure its security. But the request was made about the portion of the speech dealing with hypersonic development. So, I'll provide this excerpt for starters, all emphasis is mine:

"Let me repeat once again that we have repeatedly told our American and European partners, NATO members, that we will take the necessary measures to neutralise the threats that arise for us in connection with the deployment of the US global missile defence system. We talked about this during the negotiations, and even publicly. Back in 2004, after the exercises of the strategic nuclear forces, during which the system I am talking about was tested for the first time, I said at a meeting with the press. It's embarrassing to quote myself, but it's just going to be out of place today. So, it was said: "In the conditions of qualitative and quantitative growth of the military potential of other states, Russia needs a breakthrough to have weapons and equipment of a new generation. In this regard, I can inform you with satisfaction that as a result of the experiments conducted during these exercises, the experiments that ended positively, we were finally convinced and confirmed that in the near future the Russian Army, the Strategic Missile Forces, will be equipped with the latest technical systems that are able to hit targets at intercontinental depth with hypersonic speed and high accuracy. with the possibility of deep maneuver both in height and in course. I must say that in what has just been said, every word matters. No country in the world has such weapons systems at the moment." Unquote."

Yes, 2004 is when Putin publicly announced to the world that Russia had and would field hypersonic weapon systems, not 2018. As Putin embarrassingly noted, he had to repeat himself to remind the world that he had already announced what he was about to again. Putin followed with what has become a rather famous paragraph:

"Of course, every word matters, because it was about the possibility of bypassing the interception lines. Why did we do all this? Why did we say that? As you can see, we did not make any secret of our plans, but spoke about it openly and in order to encourage our partners to negotiate. Again, it was 2004. Surprisingly, despite all the problems we faced in the economy, in finance, in the defense industry, in the army, Russia has remained and remains the largest nuclear power. No, no one really wanted to talk to us, no one listened to us. Listen now."

But as we know today, even then they didn't listen. The videos Putin played during the speech were derided as CGI and fantasy. In closing my comment, I excerpt a few of Putin's closing paragraphs that have the most importance:

And to those who over the past 15 years have been trying to fan the arms race, are trying to gain unilateral advantages against Russia, introduce restrictions and sanctions that are illegal from an international legal point of view in order to restrain the development of our country, including in the military field, I will say: everything that you tried to prevent, to prevent by pursuing such a policy, has already happened. It was not possible to contain Russia!

Now we need to realize this reality, make sure that everything I said today is not a bluff – and this is not a bluff, believe me – to think, to send to a well-deserved rest those who live in the past and are not able to look into the future, to stop rocking the boat in which we are all and which is called "Planet Earth"....

In this regard, I consider it my duty to state the following. Any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies of small, medium, or any power, we will consider as a nuclear attack on our country. The answer will be instantaneous and with all the ensuing consequences.

No one should have any doubts about this. There is no need to create new threats to the world, but, on the contrary, it is necessary to sit down at the negotiating table and think together about an updated, promising system of international security and sustainable development of civilization. We've always told you that. All these proposals remain in force, And Russia is ready for this.

Our policy will never be based on claims of exclusivity, we protect our own interests and respect the interests of other countries, we are guided by international law, we consider the key role of the UN to be unshakable. It is precisely such principles and approaches that allow us to build strong, kind and equal relations with the absolute majority of the world's states....

Together with our partners in the Eurasian Economic Union, we intend to make it a globally competitive integration association. The agenda includes the creation of a common market for electricity, oil, petroleum products and gas in the EurAsEC, the harmonization of financial markets, and the work of customs services. We will continue to work on the project to create a greater Eurasian partnership.

Dear colleagues!

The whole world is now going through a turning point, and the leader will be the one who is ready and capable of change, the one who acts, goes forward. Our country and our people have shown such will at all defining historical stages of our development. Over the past almost 30 years, we have achieved changes that have taken centuries for other states.

We have walked, we are going and we will go our confident course. We have been and will be together. Our cohesion is the most solid foundation for further development. In the coming years, we need to further strengthen our unity so that we work as one team that understands that change is necessary and is ready to give its strength, knowledge, experience, talent to achieve common goals.

I thank the barfly that suggested I repost this speech, as well as the troll who chastised me for not doing so immediately because at times I do have other duties.

I predict the West will finally listen to Russia, and I also predict the West will be very unhappy when it finally does.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 21:24 utc | 74

Posted by: Gerrard White | Aug 26 2022 16:10 utc | 32


PS Thank you for your reply!

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 26 2022 21:26 utc | 75

Don Bacon @64--

Thanks for posting that. This admission, "We are [engaged through our own actions] in an energy war with Russia and it is damaging the whole EU" lacks a few very meaningful words that I added for clarity.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 21:32 utc | 76

The United States is preparing a military operation in Ukraine.

The United States of America intends to assign a special name to the military mission in Ukraine and put an active American general at its head. This fact is direct evidence that Washington intends to switch to direct intervention, which may also mean the transfer of American military contingent to Ukraine in order to conduct special military operations, which significantly increases the escalation in the region. Information on this subject is published by The Wall Street Journal.

Link here: ... https://theinteldrop.com/2022/08/26/wsj-us-is-preparing-for-a-special-military-mission-in-ukraine/

My bet is that it will be led by Major General Peter B. Andrysiak, Director, J-3 --- United States European Command

Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 21:41 utc | 77

Irrespective of the "noble" history of thr symbol, the Germans besmirched it on an historical scale and it will take the deaths of everyone affected by it before it can ever be reclaimed by global society. That means everyone who lived through the war, plus their children, and their children's children. Add another generation or three for the citizens of the Israeli nation founded as a result and you probably arrive at the point where it become just another historical curiosity like the Horus falcon of Egypt, the Boar of Scythia or the Eagle of Rome. So we are probably at the second half of this century before that occurs. The point being it becomes disassociated from any emotion connected with events of the era, which takes generations to accomplish.

Posted by: Prof E | Aug 26 2022 16:49 utc | 37

Thank you. It reflects exactly my feelings.

Posted by: RB | Aug 26 2022 21:47 utc | 78

Posted by: mon3 | Aug 26 2022 18:42 utc | 58

Two of 43 ships went to Africa, one to Djibouti, the other to Sudan. I don't think the one that went to Egypt will ease the hunger further south.

Still shocking, not least when you consider that Russia used "hunger as a weapon" till the end of July. But now we have a Nuclear Power Plant zu scare the world with ...

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Aug 26 2022 21:51 utc | 79

@ karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 17:22 utc | 44

i wonder how long before that important news story gets to the western msm, if ever?? thanks karflof1... it is disturbing how this is all happening with a sort of complete myopic approach on the part of the usa towards its own citizens... there is no excuse for that..

@ Deep Woods | Aug 26 2022 17:37 utc | 47

thanks.. i concur with your conclusions... i think it was melacula that pointed out the military summary ruminations on this area from yesterday.. it is worth the watch if you have the time.. here is a link to today's overview - Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis 26.08.2022

@ Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 18:55 utc | 59 /// Taras 77 | Aug 26 2022 20:21 utc | 70

thank you.. i agree with your conclusions and as others are talking further down the thread - this movement of azov type nazis into western europe ought to be a concern for europe more generally too...

@ Exile | Aug 26 2022 19:45 utc | 65

i have a hard time seeing this dynamic ending in 2024.... it is a big unresolved conflict that i don't see ending any time soon... on the other hand, maybe i can take some solace in karlof1 words @ karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 21:24 utc | 77 at the bottom!

@ Robert | Aug 26 2022 21:41 utc | 81

if that happens, my thinking is they are going to run into a lot of trouble from russia and this is going to go beyond the ukraine.. at what point does the mask come off? nato is not at war with russia? we all knew it was bullshit, so why the ongoing pretense? i know, i know! it is what the west does - hypocrisy, bullshit and pretense served up regularly... no surprise...

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 22:10 utc | 80

I should note my analysis @51 was done prior to my reading Pepe Escobar's newest, "All the Way to Odessa". He paraphrases Medvedev's recent Telegram:

"Bluntly, he affirmed there is a 'one and a half' scenario: either to go all the way, or a military coup d’etat in Ukraine followed by admitting the inevitable. No tertium applies."

After looking at the bleak EU situation, Pepe continues:

The SMO may be about to radically change – something that will drive the already clueless denizens of U.S. Think Tankland and their Euro vassals even more berserk.

President Putin and Defense Minister Shoigu have been giving serious hints the only way for the pain dial is up – considering the mounting evidence of terrorism inside Russian territory; the vile assassination of Darya Dugina; non-stop shelling of civilians in border regions; attacks on Crimea; the use of chemical weapons; and the shelling of Zaporizhzhya power plant raising the risk of a nuclear catastrophe.

This past Tuesday, one day before the SMO completing six months, Crimea’s permanent representative to the Kremlin, Georgy Muradov, all but spelled it out.

He stressed the necessity to “reintegrate all the Taurian lands” – Crimea, the Northern Black Sea and the Azov Sea – into a single entity as soon as “in the next few months”. He defined this process as “objective and demanded by the population of these regions.”

Muradov added, “given not only the strikes on Crimea, but also the continuous shelling of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, the dam of the Kakhovka reservoir, peaceful facilities on the territory of Russia, the DNR and LNR, there are all preconditions to qualify the actions of the Banderite regime as terrorist.”

The conclusion is inevitable: “the political issue of changing the format of the special military operation” enters the agenda. After all,
Washington and Brussels “have already prepared new anti-Crimean provocations of the NATO-Bandera alliance”.

So when we examine what the “restoration of the Taurian lands” implies, we see not only the contours of Novorossiya but most of all that there won’t be any security for Crimea – and thus Russia – in the Black Sea without Odessa becoming Russian again. And that, on top of it, will solve the Transnistria dilemma.

Add to it Kharkov – the capital and top industrial center of Greater Donbass. And of course Dnipropetrovsk. They are all SMO objectives, the whole combo to be later protected by buffer zones in Chernihiv and Sumy oblasts.

Only then the “tasks” – as Shoigu calls them – of the SMO would be declared fulfilled. The timeline could be eight to ten months – after a lull under General Winter.

Indeed, how long will Z remain. Pepe seems to think he'll be replaced. The grain charade has run its course, so capturing Odessa seems an easy choice, although the task might be difficult. Perhaps it's time for Zelensky to lead his troops in an assault. Just load him with captagon and he'll be fine until he falls.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 22:12 utc | 81

Robert | Aug 26 2022 21:41 utc | 81

“This is a formal recognition by Washington of the fact that the American army is taking part in specific hostilities. And this significantly speeds up all procedures for the transfer of weapons and shells.– said Ukrainian politician Borislav Bereza."

Similar to Saakashvili's pronouncement that the U.S. Defense Department was asserting jurisdition over the Abkhazian coastline.

Posted by: Javo | Aug 26 2022 22:15 utc | 82

Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 21:41 utc
The United States is preparing a military operation in Ukraine.

Really? From the same inteldrop site run by Ex-marine Gordon Duff, who also ran Veteran's Today etc.?

Oddly in March 2022 the WSJ was playing a totally different US/ZATO tune.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-nato-reject-intervening-in-ukraine-11646428978

Laughable attempt at disinfo given the US military's own planners/war-gamers have repeatedly, publicly admitted the US would get totally demolished in any direct confrontation with Russia? Maybe the CIA doesn't read those reports?

Funny how a newbie Village Boy shows up to give a textual high-five.

Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 26 2022 22:17 utc | 83

@ james | Aug 26 2022 22:10 utc | 87

NATO has been at war with Russia since the 1940s. ... Their series of proxy wars culminated in Ukraine in 2014.

There are rumors of British SAS already on the ground in Lvov. However, if NATO wants a go with Russia, then let's have a go. ... Nothing would be tastier than NATO chopped liver served on a Ukrainian platter.

Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:18 utc | 84

karlof1 88

I love Pepe but nothing he predicts ever actually happens

Posted by: Steve | Aug 26 2022 22:18 utc | 85

The next Donbass ... to be created by the 'Swamp' will be Finland ... I have said this before in these hallowed halls & I repeat it again now.

Have you been following the recent scandals surrounding the young 'trendy' & probably bisexual Finnish PM Sanna Marin? She has literally emerged from nowhere.

Every time she gives a media interview she wears a simple plain pastel coloured T-Shirt & very little in the way of jewelry. She is another Zelensky type puppet but created to appeal to the nordic sleeping sheeples of Finland.

Watch that space.

Posted by: Per Terram | Aug 26 2022 22:19 utc | 86

@ Old canadian | Aug 26 2022 22:17 utc | 90

Here is your WSJ link: ... https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to-send-nearly-3-billion-security-aid-package-to-ukraine-11661342606

Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:22 utc | 87

Posted by: Village_Boy | Aug 26 2022 21:43 utc | 82

Agree with your warm welcome to Robert, but pity his post is so very scary. Is it time to build a bunker and stock up on canned food?

Posted by: watcher | Aug 26 2022 22:22 utc | 88

Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:18 utc | 91

Its funny to listen to the Euro-peons bandy "NATO" about; in the states its pretty much considered a PR front. Just get enough gas to keep the lights on at our airbases and we'll protect you from the Ruskies.

Posted by: Bill | Aug 26 2022 22:26 utc | 89

Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 21:41 utc | 81

US mission to Ukraine?

What is this supposed to achieve? They really think their flag will make them immune? Or they can turn the tide? US generals have been running the show and most of the operations from the beginning, in fact probably even since 2014. will physically relocating an HQ to Kiev or Lvov change something?

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2022 22:31 utc | 90

@ Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:18 utc | 91

yes, and before nato existed, it was the western 1% against russia since 1917! most people remain ignorant of it, but it remains the same..

the thing that pisses me off is nato not having the balls to declare war... look what they did in libya, yugoslavia and etc... they can say all they want - they are warmongers, not peacemongers...

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2022 22:32 utc | 91

@ Bill | Aug 26 2022 22:26 utc | 96

How true. ... In 1992, NATO could not afford to even field an Army Corps, so they gutted 1st British Corps and amalgamated a bunch of staff officers together and formed the 'ARRC'. ... It faded after the Balkans deployment however, and its successor is only a skeleton force.

Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:32 utc | 92

james #16

Thank you for the link to voltaire.net.

I noticed that arch ideologue Dmytro Yarosh gets regular mention.

This is the very criminal that Nuland wanted to install as Ukrainian president when that discussion of hers was recorded. He is most likely to be Zelensky's successor sometime in the future if that opportunity arises.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 26 2022 22:33 utc | 93

@ unimperator | Aug 26 2022 22:31 utc | 97

... will physically relocating an HQ to Kiev or Lvov change something?

Yes. ... It will provide Russian artillery and missile units with more targets.

Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:35 utc | 94

@ unimperator | Aug 26 2022 22:31 utc | 97

... will physically relocating an HQ to Kiev or Lvov change something?

Yes. ... It will provide Russian aerospace forces, artillery. and missile units with more targets.

Posted by: Robert | Aug 26 2022 22:37 utc | 95

Wonderful post over at the the Saker
Julia on August 26, 2022 · at 5:33 pm EST/EDT

A message for Europeans

A true story. I’m an Austrian-born resident of the United States, still have enough of an accent to mark me as foreign born and have seen many changes here in the last twenty years.

This week I met a woman from southeast Asia probably ten or fifteen years my junior, well educated and fluent in the English language. In the course of our conversation she asked me where I was from and I told her I was born in Europe. Her response was that she always wanted to visit Russia but given all the troubles in Ukraine was unsure she would ever have the opportunity.

Do you comprehend what she said? This woman, when told I was from Europe, thought of Russia. Not Germany, not France, not the UK. Russia. Ergo, to her Europe IS Russia.

I did not have the opportunity to explore this with her, but later my daughter explained to me that Russia is half of Europe, younger people understand that and it is natural to associate the largest component with the whole. This is alien to my way of thinking, but apparently not to others. I am somewhat relieved that my American friends still make the distinction, but only just.

When I challenged my daughter, she asked me in turn “in what language does Europe dream?” I told her there were multiple languages, and perhaps English as it has been so widespread. Her response unsettled me. “In what language does the majority of Europe dream?”

My daughter does not make a distinction between a majority and a plurality, but I do. And I know the answer to her question, even if I do not wish to say it out loud. I am wondering how many in the west and center of Europe know, or have ever thought of such things, or if it will be their children who will be the ones to say so out loud.

Posted by: Marina | Aug 26 2022 22:48 utc | 96

@ karlof1 | Aug 26 2022 21:24 utc | 77

The Putin quotes are all about the military situation, plus economic ties to Eurasia, but nothing about the economic war with the EU which may turn out to be of greater importance than the SMO. Did Putin say anything about it, please?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 26 2022 22:48 utc | 97

@23 Roger
Hey Roger, I'd love to see the AfD take power in Germany, and Le Pen in France. Only if to see the contorted faces of ideologues like yourself. It would be a fresh start after 70 years of suffocating "Social-Democracy", which ended up being nothing more than Anglo-Zionist bullshit implemented in Europe. Maybe then Germany can make real peace and build a strategic relationship with Russia

Posted by: Xeen | Aug 26 2022 23:00 utc | 98

Rudyard Kipling used the swastika, pointing it to the right and the left, as his personal symbol for 40 years, in great part as tribute to his father, an artist, teacher, and scholar of Hindu literature. But when the Nazis adopted it, he ordered it removed saying it was now "defiled beyond redemption". Seem more here: https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/facts_swastika.htm

Posted by: Harold | Aug 26 2022 23:09 utc | 99

@Posted by: Xeen | Aug 26 2022 23:00 utc | 105

I have come to the conclusion that Le Pen is either controlled opposition or either doesn't really want power (or has been "told" by the French deep state) as she has repeatedly found ways of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I would much prefer Le Pen to the globalist neoliberal Macron douchebag, but she needs to stick to a populist message (dropping any neoliberal BS) and stop sticking her feet in her mouth toward the end of the campaign - also we now have to wait for another 5 years after she blew this year's chance.

The AfD also seem to have lost their way. Lets remember that the US has 40,000 occupying troops in Germany and will play every possible game to stop Germany from realigning.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 26 2022 23:24 utc | 100

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