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August 13, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-128
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Melaleuca | Aug 14 2022 9:04 utc | 104
rk | Aug 14 2022 9:36 utc | 105
I reckon we will be seeing “Little soldier” kits in the shops in time for Christmas. They get a surprise trip to the frontline as an extra gift.
Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 14 2022 9:47 utc | 101
Dima from Military Summary Channel…
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 14 2022 9:04 utc | 104
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Dima has a wife from the Banderaland, Lvov oblast…🤔
Posted by: rp | Aug 14 2022 9:47 utc | 102
Birds are chirping that Liz Truss will be the next UK PM…oh, how I love that! I’ve been wishing Britain her as the PM. 😃
I’d love to see the demise of Britain in my lifetime…
Posted by: rp | Aug 14 2022 10:02 utc | 103
@rp #107
Hey, ostro/ppp, why are you now posting as rp? Have your previous usernames been banned? Not attacking you or anything—just puzzled why would anyone jump to what is now a third username in the span of two weeks.
Posted by: S | Aug 14 2022 10:16 utc | 104
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 14 2022 9:04 utc | 104
Dima the one that supported the idea of the 1million(?) army ready to fight back Russians?Nah that’s a camouflaged ukrop.
Posted by: LuBa | Aug 14 2022 10:25 utc | 105
Posted by: S | Aug 14 2022 10:16 utc | 109
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Who are those? Who are you? yenwoda? Or a Galicien?
Posted by: rp | Aug 14 2022 10:27 utc | 106
Posted by: LuBa | Aug 14 2022 10:25 utc | 110
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Yes, he is a camouflaged ukrop. Someone said he is “reporting” from Belarus. Most probably, he is “reporting” from Lvov or Poland.
Posted by: rp | Aug 14 2022 10:30 utc | 107
Now that we know that USUKIS is running the Ukraine War, even up to having a Jewish president leading the Neonazis, wtf, we can clearly see that the US empire wants to control the world through grain.
This corresponds exactly with the prophecies in Islam about the hardships that will beset the Muslims, famines, wars, in the end times, while in the world controlled by Mammon, food will be plentiful.
The truth of these prophecies is beginning to appear in the loan-assisted land grab of Ukraine land privatisation. They are lending money for land to defeat Islam, not Russia. All the anti Russia and anti China drivel manufactured by the British Tories is a smokescreen for their hatred of Islam.
In fact my entire adult life has been a succession of wars against Islam, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq etc etc. Plus cha change , plus ch’est la fxxxing meme chose. Imho
Posted by: Giyane | Aug 14 2022 10:56 utc | 108
Job description of British PM:
US poodle, neo-liberal GCSE, like parties , hates Parties, able to manufacture crocodile tears spontaneously as required.
Nice work if you can get it. Blah blah.
Posted by: Giyane | Aug 14 2022 11:07 utc | 109
Re ZNPP. Maybe it’s time for RF to mistakingly bomb an embassy in Kiev. The question is UK or US?
Posted by: RB | Aug 14 2022 11:07 utc | 110
Job description of British PM:
US poodle, neo-liberal GCSE, like parties , hates Parties, able to manufacture crocodile tears spontaneously as required.
Nice work if you can get it. Blah blah.
Posted by: Giyane | Aug 14 2022 11:07 utc | 114
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So, let’s have Liz Truss. 😏
Posted by: rp | Aug 14 2022 11:10 utc | 111
In fact my entire adult life has been a succession of wars against Islam, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq etc etc.
Posted by: Giyane | Aug 14 2022 10:56 utc | 113
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Would be nice to kick the US out of the Middle East forever. Together with Israel.
Posted by: RK | Aug 14 2022 11:15 utc | 112
Meanwhile, in a development that has bearing on Syria’s security, Russia today launched an Iranian military satellite from its Baikanur Cosmodrome. It is a Russian-built Kanopus-V Earth-observation satellite that will boost Iran’s capability to conduct continuous surveillance on locations of its choosing, including military facilities in Israel.
Moscow negotiated the satellite deal in secret with Iran’s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (which is involved in Syria) and experts from Moscow have trained IRGC’s ground crews in the satellite’s operation.
Russia’s ties with Israel have sharply deteriorated lately due to Israel’s involvement in Ukraine as a participant in Pentagon’s “coalition of the willing”. Moscow is probably expelling the hugely influential Jewish Agency, which has kept an office in Moscow since the Gorbachev era.
Posted by: RK | Aug 14 2022 11:19 utc | 113
Posted by: JohninMK | Aug 14 2022 11:18 utc | 118
I cannot read in all.
I am sobbing for Auslander snd his wife
Posted by: watcher | Aug 14 2022 11:37 utc | 114
@RB | Aug 14 2022 11:07 utc | 115
Can’t decide. Is “all” a possible option?
Posted by: rk | Aug 14 2022 11:42 utc | 115
Russia does not shell the Khmelnitsky, Rivne, Chernobyl nuclear power plants, for some reason it shells the Zaporozhe nuclear power plant, and that too with Himars…well? 🤔
Posted by: rp | Aug 14 2022 11:45 utc | 116
Russia does not shell the Khmelnitsky, Rivne, Chernobyl nuclear power plants, for some reason it shells the Zaporozhe nuclear power plant, and that too with Himars…well?
Posted by: rp | Aug 14 2022 11:45 utc | 123
Exactly, MSM in the West says that. And they also shell Donetsk and use petal mines. Russians are attacking themselves. Almost no one in the West understands the stupidity of such news because 99% are uneducated and because, according to msm, there are no Russian controlled areas. The victorious nazi, sorry, Ukr troops, will soon reach Moscow.
Remember the story that a working himars was bought by Russia on black market? Now you know who invented it and why.
Posted by: rk | Aug 14 2022 12:02 utc | 117
The next trial of foreign mercenaries will begin in Donetsk tomorrow.
Citizens of Britain, Croatia and Sweden will be judged.
All of them are under the firing squad, according to which 3 death sentences have already been passed for foreign mercenaries.
Posted by: more trials | Aug 14 2022 12:27 utc | 118
“The sure way to stop this nonsense and the resulting catastrophe would be for the RF to issue an ultimatum to the US and the UK that if the Ukrainians keep shelling the Zaporozhye NPP the RF will NUKE Washington and London.”
End of game.
Posted by: CarlD
End of world. Statements like this are beyond insane.
Posted by: T_Reg | Aug 14 2022 12:35 utc | 119
You lame brains going after Dima now too? Pathetic fools, that is so gradeschool. Mumble “go Russia” a couple times and then proceed to question the legitimacy of Dima, or Saker or whoever. The jokes on you, dummies, it doesn’t matter, good analysis is good analysis.
Dima is Belarusian, pro-Russian, NCO whose wife is Ukrainian and so are a lot of his friends and family. It’s a civil war, fools, that is what happens.
Dima never said there was a million man army,, have you no comprehension skills? He gives news, talks tactics and reports what his sources say. He is not trying to think for you. It’s up to the listener to analyze the data.
Time for another name change and new sock-puppet?
Posted by: Haassaan | Aug 14 2022 12:55 utc | 120
In any event. Ukraine has fielded minimally 600,000 troops of vastly varying quality so far, possibly up to 750,000. Lots are dead and many more are no longer combat capable. These numbers are how Ukraine keeps fighting. The million number is a NATO goal, and before this war is over it is possible Ukraine will have fielded close to that number, not at once, of course.
The purpose of cannon fodder is to preserve the better units, and thus far Ukraine has been able to do that to some extent. The last few weeks has seen the Russian Military hunting these units, and inflicting heavy casualties.
Posted by: Haassaan | Aug 14 2022 13:10 utc | 121
Haassaan@123…no comprehension skills….ah, you noticed. Don’t expect them to comprehend…you know….no comprehension…..
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 14 2022 13:12 utc | 122
“..I’d love to see the demise of Britain in my lifetime…”
rp | Aug 14 2022 10:02 utc | 106
You did and much good it did you.
Posted by: bevin | Aug 14 2022 14:11 utc | 123
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Posted by: K | Aug 13 2022 23:53 utc | 83
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The Juice planned and carried out the Chernobyl nuclear disaster.
The Juice wanted the Soviets to allow Juice in USSR to move and take their wealth to occupied Palestine, and the Soviets didn’t want that, so the Juice did Chernobyl.
The Chernobyl thing was analogous to driving a car on 2 wheels, and changing a tire while driving on 2 wheels, and in the middle of doing that the Juice threw in a “change the driver” (a literally “shift change, without telling new shift all safeties are turned off”) to get the extremely safe Rooskie reactor to over pressurize and explode.
Posted by: Carl | Aug 14 2022 14:51 utc | 124
From a fascinating twitter catalog
Chernobyl
A SLICE OF HISTORY
@asIiceofhistory
This is the only existing photo of Chernobyl taken on the morning of the nuclear accident. The heavy grain is due to the huge amount of radiation in the air that began to destroy the camera film the second it was exposed.
https://twitter.com/asIiceofhistory/status/1534735894942392322?cxt=HHwWhICpociKvcwqAAAA
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 14 2022 15:22 utc | 125
bevin | Aug 13 2022 16:43 utc | 17
Your ‘Black International’ link is kind of anemic. For some red meat try this one.
(I’ve advanced the video to the appropriate beginning; the appropriate ending being at just over one hour, so, fifty minutes or so)
Posted by: john | Aug 14 2022 15:49 utc | 126
JohninMK 9. I too purchased Auslander’s books from him and found them a fascinating and prophetic read. He used to post regularly on the Saker but not seen anything from him for months. Sorry to hear he has experienced family losses. Do you have any news of how he is doing?
Posted by: Phil Espin | Aug 14 2022 8:24 utc | 99
Posted by: JohninMK | Aug 14 2022 11:18 utc | 118
I cannot read in all.
I am sobbing for Auslander snd his wife
Posted by: watcher | Aug 14 2022 11:37 utc | 117
Phil, I put a long post up of Auslander and his wife’s words from his posts on another public site that he is on. As you have found from his books he is a powerful writer, as is his wife. They clearly affected watcher and were then deleted by b.
Although American, Auslander spent 35 years in the Red Army, he retired as a very proud Captain in Crimea. He is married to a Crimean lady with 2 children and after the battles in Donbas they adopted 2 children who’s parents were killed there. All the children were in Donbas, the boys fighting and the girl a nurse. One of their boys and the girl were killed in fighting in Donbas in March, the girl when she shielded a wounded prisoner from a Ukrainian grenade. These two deaths, plus he had an operation, really took it out of him. His last burst of posts was in March after the funerals, with just 2 since in May. Since then he has been quiet but is still checking in on the site, russiadefence.net so it looks as if he is still OK. I don’t know when he was last on the Saker.
This is the Ukrainian conflict at the level of a family, demonstrating how sad and wasteful war is, that we seldom read.
I read many sites on the civil war in Ukraine and of all the posters he is the only one who is very personally and directly affected by it. I am a similar age to him and hHis words
Posted by: JohninMK | Aug 14 2022 16:15 utc | 127
@ Melaleuca | Aug 13 2022 23:47 utc | 81
thanks for your post on this most fascinating topic – ukraine finances….
@ Haassaan | Aug 14 2022 12:55 utc | 123
thanks for this and all your other posts too! cheers james
Posted by: james | Aug 14 2022 17:55 utc | 129
T_reg 122
Insane statement?
Or a sobering initiative?
Downing St, and the WH are the ones directing Ukraine’s actions. Shelling the NPP only brings the eventuality
of a new Chernobyl disaster closer. It is a nuclear gamble where the West sees an opportunity to blackmail the opponent
into submission, while having no skin in the game.
Now if the decisions centers are made aware of a threat to their own well being, they might think twice about what they
are doing.
They gave Kiev the means and they are directing it’s hands, aiming the HIMARS and the M777 at objectives that should
be avoided at all costs. Be they the NPPs or the barrages erected to satisfy their needs in cooling water.
Several chemical disasters have been miraculously averted already. But prayers are not enough. The Bonzos doing
the miscalculation must be warned.
Maybe they will wake up and sober up some.
Meanwhile, get over your initial cringe and think.
Do you have a better alternative?
Let’s hear it.
Posted by: CarlD | Aug 14 2022 20:05 utc | 130
@rp #105:
Dima from Military Summary Channel…
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 14 2022 9:04 utc | 104
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Dima has a wife from the Banderaland, Lvov oblast…🤔
#109:
Who are you? yenwoda? Or a Galicien?
I’ve started posting on this website 4.5 years ago and have always used “S” as my username.
You, on the other hand, after posting as “ostro” for a few months, have suddenly switched first to “ppp” (very similar to existing commenter “pppp”), then to “rp” (similar to existing commenter “rk”).
It’s easy to detect you:
- When you’re replying to a commenter, you copy their signature, add a few dashes on the next line (—), then a blank line, then your reply. You are the only commenter on this website to use this reply style.
- You are the only commenter on this website to use emojis.
- You are sowing doubt about pro-Russian pundits based on irrelevant factors. First it was Martyanov’s emigration from Azerbaijan to the U.S. (as if Baku was safe for Russians in the 90s), now it’s Dima’s Ukrainian wife (a quarter of Russian citizens have close relatives in the Ukraine, same for Belarussians).
I’m not saying you’re a bad person or anything. I just don’t understand why you’re engaging in this fake-mustache-and-a-wig buffoonery.
Posted by: S | Aug 14 2022 21:33 utc | 131
JohninMK | Aug 14 2022 16:15 utc | 130
Thanks very much for the news about Auslander and family; I was musing about him a few days ago and noted I hadn’t read anything by him for several months, although I could have missed it just as I missed this discussion.
Posted by: Blmpa | Aug 14 2022 6:20 utc | 92
Too funny. A demarcation dispute between two factions of death merchants. Maybe they should start a union to resolve the situation.
Although, on the other hand, I’d rather sit back and watch them try to kill each other, in true neolibcon fashion.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 15 2022 0:19 utc | 133
rk | Aug 14 2022 9:36 utc | 103
All they do is basic training for basic terrorists on how to use explosives, mines, little drones and whatever. That’s all it is, there are no soldiers coming out of them.
DOH!!
Of course. The next crop of saboteurs and terrorists in training.
Russia + new[once-and-now-again]Russia will be subjected to terrorism for the next xxx? years.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 15 2022 3:09 utc | 134
My guess is that the war will be mostly done by the end of August because by then, Lord High Z…will be long gone with bags of cash…leaving his schmuck nahtzees and beard wife, in the lurch.
The writing is on the wall. The last real resistance in Donbass is crumbling then Russia can focus on taking the rest of the Black Sea coastline. Western politicians and media with some sense of self preservation, are already setting Z up as the Uke who conned them all.
‘Nahtzees??? No way!!! We had no way of knowing!!! Gee…he sure fooled us!!!’
Z pretty much gave permission to Poland to help carve up Ukraine like Medvedev’s map. Z really doesn’t want to end up like Qaddafi, so it won’t take much to talk him into getting out before he gets got. I’d be surprised if he’s not keeping a chopper nice and warmed up 24/7.
Posted by: Joe Walker | Aug 15 2022 7:56 utc | 135
Wagner base in Popasnaya was hit – extent of damage & casualties unclear, Ukrainians are claiming they killed all of Wagner command, Wagner sources say that “the Ukrainians’ joy is greatly exaggerated”
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1558847481546416128?cxt=HHwWgICxyc_hkaIrAAAA
> I bet the photo session showing the place on telegram was worth it a few days ago
>> Yeah I thought that too…
> As far as I remember, most of the Wagners are in Bakhmut and Soledar…they have destroyed their resting place.
> brag on social media: https://twitter.com/DrazaM33/status/1558851658637103108
> OpSec fail extreme… You’d figure Wagner would be smarter than this.
> IMPORTANT: Last night and today, a photo of the headquarters of the PMC “Wagner” and Prigozhin who arrived there in Popasnaya in the LPR went for a walk on the Web, today a missile attack was carried out at the headquarters. Several injured and dead are reported.
> No big losses, thank God.
We do not know if this is connected or the Armed Forces of Ukraine already had information about the headquarters and the arrival of Prigozhin (they report that he was not injured),
> but we consider it our duty to remind you that thoughtless reporting can cause the death of our guys.
> Photos of headquarters with indication of settlements carry risks, the same Popasnaya is very badly destroyed and with the help of satellite images, specialists can determine the location.
> Of course, any casualties are also big losses. I hope they will find safer bases and avoid sharing images unless moving or out of range.
> But is it true that their photos gave their location ??
>> Lol the fucking address is on the photo
https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1558862491786035204
>Looks like Wagner sustained casualties in Popasna. Notably, photos were published a few days ago showing Yevgeny Prigozhin at a building in the city, which some dubbed as Wagner’s headquarters.
> https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1558852348646248449
> @RALee85. Apparently, the same building where these photos were taken was struck. Incredibly bad opsec this far into the war if true, particularly in a location well within the range of HIMARS.
> Another Russian Telegram channel says sarcastically that the accounts sharing geo-locatable photos of Wagner positions in Popasna are acting as honorary artillery observers for the Ukrainian military.
> The account that shared the photos of Prigozhin in Popasna has deleted them
> was nice of them to provide their address
https://twitter.com/BStardAlan/status/1558880196685701128
Geolocation 48.61618155173501, 38.360631433134046
https://twitter.com/mycasusbelli/status/1558884281514074113
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 15 2022 15:35 utc | 136