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August 7, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-124
Only for news & views related to the Ukraine conflict. Off topic comments will be deleted and repeated offenders WILL get banned. The current open thread for other issues is here.
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Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine (07082022) Posted by: Summary07082022 | Aug 7 2022 12:35 utc | 1 45,000 tons of munitions makes a hell of a bang, either a misprint, poor translation or most of the ammo was moved out to the field before the hit. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 7 2022 12:53 utc | 2 https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1555960157397565442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1555960157397565442%7Ctwgr%5Edfe04f568a57aa27abf27e56d5c90faeb2f6f424%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.godlikeproductions.com%2Fforum1%2Fmessage5201985%2Fpg1 Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 7 2022 13:05 utc | 3 This if true, is a real blow to the Ukrainian forces, and to Nato. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:18 utc | 5 All those soldiers being trained in the UK and elsewhere. Posted by: Jpc | Aug 7 2022 13:22 utc | 6 On top of the destruction of tonnes of Nato weapons many more have been captured by the RF from a wholes host of nations. Surely the capture and destruction of weapons and manpower is unsustainable for Zelensky. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:23 utc | 7 With the Zelensky fronted house of cards about to topple (Ukrainian forces are losing badly) could some sort of disaster be planned and blamed on Russia to shift the focus away from the worrying truth that in reality Russia is coming close to subduing the Ukrainian forces in East Ukraine (Donbas) and surrounding areas. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:30 utc | 8 The US is to throw more dollars at Ukraine including a billions worth in arms, I wonder what the American taxpayer thinks about it. I’m sure there a number of important areas inhouse where the money could be spent, including US infrastructure. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:35 utc | 9 The continuous avalanche of Ukrainian bad news is actually starting to “drone” on and on like a mosquito filled summer evening. I now normally only tune in when there are big developments happening which is usually a Russian strategic victory or less often, a US Intelligence supplied Ukie atrocity like the bombing of the DPR prison. The SMO is definitely going on much longer than I would have acknowledged 5 months ago. Now however, with the constant rumours and news of Kiev’s hatred for regular Ukrainian people, I just wish Russia and LPR/DPR forces would bomb Kiev into the stone age and finish this action. IF there are any leadership still left in that cursed city. Posted by: marty | Aug 7 2022 13:44 utc | 10 Any update/confirmation on the Ukraine casualty figures that were carried in one of the posts earlier in the week? Posted by: Orchard1 | Aug 7 2022 13:52 utc | 11 It’s a huge difference hearing/seeing these words said from old news reports vs. reading them in an article. Posted by: Tom_12 | Aug 7 2022 13:56 utc | 12 Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:30 utc | 8 Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2022 14:03 utc | 13 rk (13). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 14:13 utc | 14 Roger Waters of Pink Floyd fame, calls Joe Biden a war criminal with regards to the hostilities in Ukraine, Waters better watch out the SBU has a hit list of those it feels are anti-Ukraine. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 14:23 utc | 15 The cause of this war is still unknown?? Posted by: Summary07082022 | Aug 7 2022 12:35 utc | 1 Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Aug 7 2022 14:27 utc | 17 Republicofscotland @ 9 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 7 2022 14:35 utc | 18 https://turcopolier.com/pro-russian-officials-assassinated-in-kherson-ahead-of-ukraine-offensive/ Posted by: morongobill | Aug 7 2022 14:35 utc | 19 How much more is there to say about the Ukraine event? Russia is going to win. Posted by: RKJoyce – Prophet | Aug 7 2022 14:41 utc | 20 The average US citizen is completely disengaged. Posted by: Tom_12 | Aug 7 2022 14:53 utc | 21 I just wish Russia and LPR/DPR forces would bomb Kiev into the stone age and finish this action. IF there are any leadership still left in that cursed city. Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 14:55 utc | 22 @RKJoyce – Prophet | Aug 7 2022 14:41 utc | 20
Until the winter power bills arrive. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 7 2022 14:59 utc | 23 Well CNN just did a report on the ukies lined up headed to Russia and said hardly anyone is leaving the Russian side. They must be getting ready to pack it up soon. Posted by: OhhCanada | Aug 7 2022 15:32 utc | 24 circumspect (18). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:43 utc | 25 Orchard1 (11) Posted by: Zuma | Aug 7 2022 15:47 utc | 26 “The bulk carrier Razoni with Ukrainian grain has changed the route and, apparently, is waiting for instructions on a new destination, the report said. Twitter Ali Hamiya, Minister of Public Works and Transport of Lebanon. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:52 utc | 27 On August 7, Ukraine used 220 mm Hurricane MLRS cluster rocket fragmentation submunitions to again hit Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. Posted by: Steven Starr | Aug 7 2022 15:57 utc | 28 the canucks are no different then those in the usa.. the general population remains completely ignorant about what is happening in the ukraine… Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 15:57 utc | 29 For those interested in the statistics of the SMO in Ukraine here are some maps and figures. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:59 utc | 30 @ Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:59 utc | 30 Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 16:05 utc | 31 With the deal agreed between Russia and Ukraine on the exporting of grain from Ukraine, part of the deal sees Russian fertiliser and agricultural products allowed back on the world’s stage. I think Europe and North America were a bit hasty with their sanctions on this Russian produce, cutting off their own nose to spite their face, and they now realise that they need it. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 16:08 utc | 32 james (31). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 16:11 utc | 33 @ Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 16:11 utc | 33 Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 16:16 utc | 34 LOL everyone still trying to make it look like Russia losing big time while ignoring maps Posted by: HandsomeMan | Aug 7 2022 16:27 utc | 35 Jesus Christ, Amnesty apologize for their report on ukrainian warcrimes! Posted by: Zanon | Aug 7 2022 17:19 utc | 36 Posted by: Zanon | Aug 7 2022 17:19 utc | 36 Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 17:26 utc | 37 Zanon@36 Posted by: bevin | Aug 7 2022 17:27 utc | 38 This may look like off topic, but it is connected to Ukraine “crisis.” Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 17:36 utc | 39 So the BBC repeats the lie that the Russians shelled the NPP that they control, and then reports that the mayor of Nikopol complains that the Russians are shelling his city daily from the NPP without batting an eye. Unbelievable. Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 7 2022 17:37 utc | 40 Link to southfront Posted by: gary | Aug 7 2022 17:37 utc | 41 Amnesty international under fire for failing to announce trigger-warnings ahead of publishing “Russian narratives” (re: Ukraine military activity in civilian neighbourhoods). Many officials, speaking from safe spaces free from dangerous narratives, condemn AI for propagating harmful triggers. Others have required therapy. Posted by: jayc | Aug 7 2022 17:40 utc | 42 Republicofscotland @ 25 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 7 2022 17:42 utc | 43 @Zuma 26 Posted by: Orchard1 | Aug 7 2022 17:45 utc | 44 Germany publicly says they’re sponsoring terrorists Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2022 17:46 utc | 45 The Morning Star has a good editorial on Amnesty today: Posted by: bevin | Aug 7 2022 17:46 utc | 46 Amnesty regrets stress caused by the report; Posted by: DutchZ | Aug 7 2022 17:51 utc | 47 @DutchZ | Aug 7 2022 17:51 utc | 47 Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 7 2022 17:56 utc | 48 Like I said, AI is headquartered in London, so cannot be trusted. It is a tool of the tool of of the Empire of Lies and its puppy, Britain. Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 18:07 utc | 49 A rundown on the current political scene in Kiev by Gordan Hahn. Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 7 2022 18:25 utc | 50 Russian talk show host claimed that 100,000 North Korean “volunteers” are ready to assist in Russia’s ongoing war in Ukraine. Posted by: Sushi | Aug 7 2022 18:32 utc | 51 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:52 utc | 27 Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 18:33 utc | 52 APsplainin traffic: 1st ship carrying Ukrainian [“]grain[“] leaves the port of Odesa (1 Aug) was the “the Sierra Leone-flagged cargo ship Razoni left Odesa carrying over 26,000 tons of corn [!] destined for Lebanon” inexplicably after the other 1st ship, “Syrian” Laodicea [unspecified flag] docked in the Lebanese port of Tripoli (29 July) “carrying 5,000 tons of flour and 5,000 tons of barley”. Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 18:52 utc | 53 “… the actions of UAF will be based on partisans,uprisings in occupied cities,and mobile operations behind enemy lines” – Chief of Staff of the Minister of Defense of Germany Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 7 2022 18:53 utc | 54 sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 18:33 utc | 52 Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 7 2022 18:54 utc | 55 Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 15:57 utc | 29 Posted by: Sushi | Aug 7 2022 18:57 utc | 56 There’s this thing about liars, they can’t keep their stories straight. Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 18:58 utc | 57 And yet… they forgot that there is such a saying, “where three Ukrainians gather, there will definitely be two hetmans and… a traitor.” Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 19:07 utc | 58 Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 7 2022 18:54 utc | 55 Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:09 utc | 59 ACCORDING TO UKRAINIAN INTELLIGENCE…
2) Russia fired artillery shells and rocket artillery at its own nuclear power plant. The news story fails to mention that the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant has been under Russian control since March. Amusingly, the story contains a video of the damage, titled “destruction caused by the Russian missile strike [on the NPP] in the Zaporizhzhia region”. The source of the video is stated to be the “Telegram channel of Russian occupation authorities”.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 7 2022 19:16 utc | 60 sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:09 utc | 59 Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 7 2022 19:23 utc | 62 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 7 2022 19:16 utc | 60 Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 19:25 utc | 63 Where’s muh wheat and muh mf PATENT WAIVERS?
Blinken in Africa: Bringing back old alliesMONUSCO: fail Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:26 utc | 64 Re: 100,000 North Korean “volunteers”
I mentioned a month ago, right after North Korea recognized the People’s Republics, that North Korea could potentially send 100,000 solders to Donbass and Ukraine. I was surprised a month later, when exactly the same number was stated. I started wondering, if I had been part of the psychological operation. Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 7 2022 19:26 utc | 65 It’s not Ranzoni which went to Lebanon and then finally to Syria, it’s Laodice ship (with grain said to be stolen by russians). The Ranzoni ship seems to be stopped in Turkey waiting for a buyer for its corn ! Posted by: stella | Aug 7 2022 19:35 utc | 66 @ Sushi | Aug 7 2022 18:57 utc | 56 Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 19:36 utc | 67 In the UK parliament Tory MP’s gleefully branded a UK citizen as a Russian propagandist for reporting from the liberated cantons of the Donbass. In response the UK Security State derogates the rule of law by classifying journalist Graham Philips as a threat to National Security which the Tory Government duly ratifies by adding him to the Russian sanctions list as a UK citizen persona non grata. He is effectively criminalised and deprived of all human rights and material assets on return to the UK he would probably be imprisoned for treason. Stripped of all rights sanctioned and inundated with death threats, the writing is on the wall for resistors and dissidents in the UK who are critical of Western policy on Ukraine. This is the current obsession of UK democrats who openly advocate the criminalisation of dissident bloggers branded as enemies of the state without any resource to due process and the justice system. Posted by: Rick | Aug 7 2022 19:41 utc | 68 Turkish coast near Idlib Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:41 utc | 69 Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:26 utc | 64 Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 19:42 utc | 70 @42 Posted by: Cherrycoke | Aug 7 2022 19:57 utc | 71 Thank you for all this information. Great news. I just discovered this blog. Go Russia. Keep pounding those bastards. Posted by: Rick Jefferson | Aug 7 2022 19:57 utc | 72 Petri Krohn | Aug 7 2022 19:16 utc | 60 Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2022 20:02 utc | 74 As Jews, they could be in any country, for they never had a country. Today, he is playing an Ukrainian, which he is not. Posted by: njet | Aug 7 2022 20:51 utc | 75 … The puppets will destroy the whole country and say Russia did it. The question is why they are allowed to live to lie and order shelling of npps? Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 7 2022 20:54 utc | 76 This is exactly the framed thinking of antisemitism. Bullshit. Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 20:56 utc | 77 Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 19:42 utc | 70 Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 21:03 utc | 78 Mercouris bloviated about a Chinese invasion of Twaiwan–once China understands it holds (para) “a stronger hand” than US 7th fleet–Erdo-gone is a diplomatic amateur who frequently meets Putin more often than US-NATO (ie. Europe which has been fucking with Anatolia since the 14th cen.) to sell drones (but not S-400) and furniture–which Turks do well–then said Erdogan dislikes Biden, but got along with Trump. Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 21:31 utc | 79 “The Ukrainian counteroffensive will not be similar to what Russia is doing: the actions of UAF will be based on partisans,uprisings in occupied cities,and mobile operations behind enemy lines” – Chief of Staff of the Minister of Defense of Germany Posted by: Olivier | Aug 7 2022 21:34 utc | 80 @78 The Ottomans in Medieval Eastern Europe, illustrated Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 21:52 utc | 82 domestic political analysis Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 22:18 utc | 83 Posted by: Summary07082022 | Aug 7 2022 12:35 utc | 1 Posted by: Michigan Dude | Aug 7 2022 23:05 utc | 84
I’d often second that suggestion, but accessing Russian websites (one of which I assume is the source of the “summary”) has been a problem for many MoA posters. Posted by: David Levin | Aug 7 2022 23:15 utc | 85 The wind at Zaporizhzhya NPP over the last few days has been light and blowing in the direction of Crimea, forecast to strenghten from mid weeek in much the same direction. Posted by: Gordon | Aug 7 2022 23:22 utc | 86 The one news station….DW? Was reporting the Razoni might have rotten goods that can’t be sold. Other reports are they don’t want to sell it to Lebanon out of revenge for allowing the Russian ship with ‘stolen’ ukie grain to leave port. Posted by: Ohhcanada | Aug 7 2022 23:24 utc | 87 Ukraine is now about US/UK fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian. Industrial scale slaughter. War porn. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 7 2022 23:29 utc | 88 sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:26 utc | 64 Posted by: George | Aug 7 2022 23:57 utc | 89
Readers and viewers who aren’t ordinarily dumb might nonetheless be brainwashed, such that they will project a sinister motive if there’s no sensible one. Posted by: David Levin | Aug 7 2022 23:59 utc | 90 Interesting: per the LiveUAmap used frequently here, Ukraine has gained slightly more territory in the past week around the M03 toward Izyum than Russia/proxies have pushing north from Donetsk city. The feature to snap the map back to a specific date is pretty cool – looks like they have a REST API but getting a key requires a paid subscription, bummer. Wouldn’t mind playing around with that data. Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 8 2022 0:04 utc | 91 Peter AU1 | Aug 7 2022 23:29 utc | 88 Posted by: George | Aug 8 2022 0:14 utc | 92 The French nuclear agency, the IRSN, in 2005 produced an animation of the path of the radioactive plumes over Europe from them destroyed Chernobyl between 26th April and 6th May 1986. The IRSN site describes this as “Representation of cesium-137 radioactivity concentration over Europe between 26 April and 6 May 1986” Posted by: Steven Starr | Aug 8 2022 0:15 utc | 93 “Well CNN just did a report on the ukies lined up headed to Russia and said hardly anyone is leaving the Russian side. They must be getting ready to pack it up soon. Posted by: daffyDuct | Aug 8 2022 0:20 utc | 94 Michigan Dude #84 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 8 2022 0:22 utc | 95 @ Summary07082022 | Aug 7 2022 12:35 utc | 1 with the Russia MOD summary Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2022 0:30 utc | 96 George | Aug 8 2022 0:14 utc | 92 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2022 0:32 utc | 97 Silencing the only Ukrainian born US Member of Congress is not going so well. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 8 2022 0:42 utc | 98 Blinkers Goes To Africa! Posted by: WTFUD | Aug 8 2022 0:47 utc | 99 The US has an unlimited supply of play money it can send to Ukraine or elsewhere. It can give money to the world’s largest military contractor – Lockheed Martin; or the second largest, Boeing (which would be bankrupt without free money); or the 3rd, Raytheon; or the 4th, Pfizer, (yes, Pfizer is a military contractor and so is Humana). Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Aug 8 2022 0:53 utc | 100 |
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