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Ukraine Open Thread 2022-124

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Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine (07082022)

As a result of the strike of the Russian Aerospace Forces on the temporary deployment point of units of the 72nd Mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of an agricultural enterprise in the city of Artemovsk of the Donetsk People's Republic, up to 130 servicemen and eight units of automotive and armored vehicles were destroyed.

Up to 70 servicemen, three self-propelled artillery installations "Gvozdika" and four units of automotive equipment were destroyed by the impact of high-precision air-based missiles on the temporary location of the howitzer battery of the 95th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the village of Dzerzhinsk of the Donetsk People's Republic.

In the city of Kharkiv on the territory of CHP-3 and Karpovsky Garden, as a result of strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces at the temporary deployment points of the 3rd brigade of the National Guard, over a hundred nationalists were destroyed.

Due to the high losses, the Zelensky regime is taking measures to make up for the shortage of personnel of Ukrainian formations in the area of hostilities in the Donbas. So, it was decided to send mobilized citizens to the front line ahead of schedule, who began training at the training center of the 72nd mechanized brigade in the city of Bila Tserkva, Kiev region.

The wounded who were in hospitals are sent along with them, without waiting for them to complete a full course of rehabilitation after injuries.

Strikes by Russian operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery against military facilities on the territory of Ukraine continue. During the day, three control points were hit, including the battalion of the 66th mechanized Brigade in the area of the village of Ocheretino, the battalion of the 109th Territorial Defense Brigade in the Berestka area of the Donetsk People's Republic, as well as manpower and military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 173 districts.

Destroyed: a Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile launcher in the area of the settlement of Chas Yar of the Donetsk People's Republic, five ammunition depots, including an ammunition depot equipped in one of the workshops of the St. Ilyinsky Machine-Building Plant in the Dachnoye district of the Donetsk People's Republic.

Also, an arsenal was destroyed in the Voznesensk area of the Mykolaiv region, where 45000 tons of ammunition recently supplied to the Armed Forces of Ukraine by NATO countries were stored.

As part of the counter-battery struggle, four platoons of MLRS "Grad", two platoons of guns "Msta-B", a platoon of guns "Hyacinth-B" were suppressed at firing positions in the areas of the settlements of Dzerzhinsk, Sukhaya Balka, Lastochkino and Krasnogorovka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

Russian air defense means shot down eight Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles during the day in the areas of the settlements of Krasnoe, Chervoniy Yar, Dibrovnoye, Petropavlovsk, Kharkiv region, Staromikhailovka, Rovnopol, Malinovka of the Donetsk People's Republic and the city of Donetsk. Also, one projectile of a multiple rocket launcher system was intercepted in the Kamenka area of the Kharkiv region.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 263 aircraft, 145 helicopters, 1701 unmanned aerial vehicles, 362 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4262 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 789 multiple rocket launchers, 3273 field artillery and mortar guns, as well as 4756 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

Posted by: Summary07082022 | Aug 7 2022 12:35 utc | 1

45,000 tons of munitions makes a hell of a bang, either a misprint, poor translation or most of the ammo was moved out to the field before the hit.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 7 2022 12:53 utc | 2

Those were 45 metric tons of ammo in Voznesensk - 45,000 kilogram.

Posted by: b | Aug 7 2022 13:13 utc | 4

This if true, is a real blow to the Ukrainian forces, and to Nato.

"In the Mykolaiv region, Russian troops destroyed an arsenal with 45 thousand tons of ammunition supplied to the Ukrainian army by NATO countries"


https://ria.ru/20220807/ukraina-1807843122.html

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:18 utc | 5

All those soldiers being trained in the UK and elsewhere.
That narrative had gone pretty silent?

Posted by: Jpc | Aug 7 2022 13:22 utc | 6

On top of the destruction of tonnes of Nato weapons many more have been captured by the RF from a wholes host of nations. Surely the capture and destruction of weapons and manpower is unsustainable for Zelensky.

Unless of course more Nato troops (wearing Ukrainian combat gear) appear on the battlefield inside Ukraine.


"Ministry of Defence Published video with another batch of captured Western weapons captured at Ukrainian positions in the battles in the Izyum direction.
Among the trophies are hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers produced. Uk, United States, Sweden and Poland, missile systems "Javelin", "Carl Gustav", RPG-7 of Polish production, as well as machine guns and Soviet small arms, in particular large-caliber machine guns DShK."


https://ria.ru/20220807/oruzhie-1807820703.html

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:23 utc | 7

With the Zelensky fronted house of cards about to topple (Ukrainian forces are losing badly) could some sort of disaster be planned and blamed on Russia to shift the focus away from the worrying truth that in reality Russia is coming close to subduing the Ukrainian forces in East Ukraine (Donbas) and surrounding areas.


"Given the situation around the Zaporozhye NPP, there is an increasing risk of a nuclear disaster or an emergency situation, which would lead to negative consequences," he pointed out. "The August 5 artillery shelling of the NPP is another proof of it," he added.

"As a responsible state realizing how difficult it is to ensure the security of nuclear facilities, Russia is making utmost efforts to make sure that the NPP is safe," the diplomat noted. "We will employ all possible means to prevent security violations and maintain security at the highest level based on the IAEA’s requirements," he added.

"As for the risk of nuclear materials from Ukraine falling into the hands of terrorists, it cannot be ruled out that if an emergency situation or a disaster takes place, Ukraine’s nuclear facilities will go out of control," Belousov stressed. "We are doing our best to prevent such a scenario," he said."


https://tass.com/politics/1490307

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:30 utc | 8

The US is to throw more dollars at Ukraine including a billions worth in arms, I wonder what the American taxpayer thinks about it. I'm sure there a number of important areas inhouse where the money could be spent, including US infrastructure.


"The administration of US President Joe Biden is planning to announce yet another military aid package for Ukraine to add to about $8.8 billion in assistance Washington has given Kiev since Russia launched the campaign five months ago.

The new arms package, expected to be worth $1 billion, will reportedly include ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), and National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) as well as some 50 M113 armored medical vehicles, Reuters cited three sources with knowledge of the matter.

The package, one of the largest so far, is expected to be announced as early as Monday, the report said Friday."


https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/08/06/686904/US-President-Joe-Biden-package-Ukraine%C2%A0

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:35 utc | 9

The continuous avalanche of Ukrainian bad news is actually starting to "drone" on and on like a mosquito filled summer evening. I now normally only tune in when there are big developments happening which is usually a Russian strategic victory or less often, a US Intelligence supplied Ukie atrocity like the bombing of the DPR prison. The SMO is definitely going on much longer than I would have acknowledged 5 months ago. Now however, with the constant rumours and news of Kiev's hatred for regular Ukrainian people, I just wish Russia and LPR/DPR forces would bomb Kiev into the stone age and finish this action. IF there are any leadership still left in that cursed city.

Posted by: marty | Aug 7 2022 13:44 utc | 10

Any update/confirmation on the Ukraine casualty figures that were carried in one of the posts earlier in the week?

Posted by: Orchard1 | Aug 7 2022 13:52 utc | 11

It's a huge difference hearing/seeing these words said from old news reports vs. reading them in an article.

https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1496500526476931076

Posted by: Tom_12 | Aug 7 2022 13:56 utc | 12

Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 13:30 utc | 8

They use both artillery and mlrs for attacks on npp. I don't think they teleport them in range, shoot then disappear. There seems to be no monitoring at all. Considering there are multiple npps in Ukr, it's almost certain nato wants to explode at least one of them, the one closest to Crimea first and then the one closest to Belarus

A few days ago Shtoly said again that Russia can't be allowed to win and demanded bigger and more advanced weapons. It is possible to turn the whole country in a mess. A few npps and chemical storage is one way. Terrorism with mlrs is another way. Since Shoigu isn't doing anything to prevent strikes on npp, which seem to be happening very frequently now, maybe he prepares to go home. Take Donbass and bye bye, like in 2015 with Crimea. That would explain why nazi leadership is not targeted and Kiev, Lvov are safer than Belgorod. They'll say operation was finished successfully (which you can't contradict, D&D is too ambiguous), nato will say Russia was defeated (which you can't contradict since you don't know exactly what Russia wanted).

Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2022 14:03 utc | 13

rk (13).

Yes there can be no other reason to shell a (NNP) other than to hope that it leads to a disaster. Maybe this is why.

"The head of the IAEA, Rafael Grossi, on Saturday expressed concern about the shelling of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant. According to him, military actions that put the safety of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant at risk are "completely unacceptable and must be prevented at any cost." Grossi stressed that he is ready to lead the mission of IAEA experts on safety, protection and safeguards at nuclear power plants.

"Ukrainian troops have already made several attempts to attack the territory of the nuclear power plant several times since the beginning of the special operation. The last one occurred on August 5. As a result of several artillery shelling, a fire broke out at the scene, two power lines necessary for the operation of power units were broken. At the nuclear power plant, part of the equipment of power unit No. 3 was de-energized, the generated capacity of power unit No. 4 was reduced.
During the special operation, the Russian military took control of the Kherson region and the Azov part of the Zaporozhye region. In both regions, new administrations have been formed, Russian TV channels and radio stations are broadcasting, and trade ties with Crimea are being restored. The regions have announced plans to become part of Russia."


https://ria.ru/20220807/aes-1807840984.html

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 14:13 utc | 14

Roger Waters of Pink Floyd fame, calls Joe Biden a war criminal with regards to the hostilities in Ukraine, Waters better watch out the SBU has a hit list of those it feels are anti-Ukraine.


https://ria.ru/20220807/ssha-1807820411.html

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 14:23 utc | 15

Posted by: Summary07082022 | Aug 7 2022 12:35 utc | 1

Interesting.

Gives one the appearance of the million-man reserve force in country 404. Is clearly one of a fictional propaganda Army.

Country 404 unconditional surrender due before the first autumn rains/season of mud in.............

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Aug 7 2022 14:27 utc | 17

Republicofscotland @ 9
The US is to throw more dollars at Ukraine including a billions worth in arms, I wonder what the American taxpayer thinks about it. I'm sure there a number of important areas inhouse where the money could be spent, including US infrastructure.

The average US citizen is completely disengaged. Both parties deeply support the effort. The anti Russian propaganda has been complete and very effective.

Mention it to your peers in conversation and they have no understanding. I know one person who totally understands. Just one.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 7 2022 14:35 utc | 18

https://turcopolier.com/pro-russian-officials-assassinated-in-kherson-ahead-of-ukraine-offensive/

Money quote by Pat Lang:
"Comment: This increase in partisan activity probably reflects the presence of US Special Forces soldiers (Green Berets) advising and training. This is our preferred mode of operation. It is why we were created. DOL. pl"

Posted by: morongobill | Aug 7 2022 14:35 utc | 19

How much more is there to say about the Ukraine event? Russia is going to win.

Will the U.S. send more money that it doesn't really have?

What will the political structure in the Ukraine look like after the Russians win?

How much longer will the Western peasants continue to believe the lies of the ShedStream Media?

How much else is there to discuss?

Posted by: RKJoyce - Prophet | Aug 7 2022 14:41 utc | 20

The average US citizen is completely disengaged.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 7 2022 14:35 utc | 18

They sure are. They have other things to think about that are much closer to their homes,

https://twitter.com/AlessioUrban/status/1556268045517160448

The EU citizens are in the same boat,

https://twitter.com/dontpayuk/status/1555583413071101954
https://twitter.com/AlessioUrban/status/1556254584863162372

Posted by: Tom_12 | Aug 7 2022 14:53 utc | 21

I just wish Russia and LPR/DPR forces would bomb Kiev into the stone age and finish this action. IF there are any leadership still left in that cursed city.

Posted by: marty | Aug 7 2022 13:44 utc | 10
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Sorry, but it can't be done that way. Kiev is not a cursed city for the Rus and cannot be bombed to destroy it. Practically all of the famous buildings, roads, bridges, parks, underground and overground railway system, etc, etc were build by the Soviet people, so cannot be destroyed. Zelensky was born in the Soviet Ukraine, because there was no other place for him to be born, for his parents to live in. As Jews, they could be in any country, for they never had a country. Today, he is playing an Ukrainian, which he is not.

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 14:55 utc | 22

@RKJoyce - Prophet | Aug 7 2022 14:41 utc | 20

How much longer will the Western peasants continue to believe the lies of the ShedStream Media?
Until the winter power bills arrive.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 7 2022 14:59 utc | 23

Well CNN just did a report on the ukies lined up headed to Russia and said hardly anyone is leaving the Russian side. They must be getting ready to pack it up soon.

Posted by: OhhCanada | Aug 7 2022 15:32 utc | 24

circumspect (18).

That's a pity, I'm sure you must be utterly frustrated at the level of awareness on the matter with your fellow Americans, countless US administrations have funded foreign wars (just or unjust) off the backs of US taxpayers for decades, its not right nor fair, even now the US taxpayer funds Israel with billions of dollars. I find it hard to see what the US taxpayers gets in return for all this funding, other than the anger from the foreign countries citizens that your tax dollars have been spent on to either usurp it democratically elected leader, and replace them with a puppet leader, or cause civil unrest or asset strip.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:43 utc | 25

Orchard1 (11)

Not sure what was published previously but can assist with your query.

Casualties:
(a) Death 74,583
(b) Wounded 151, 019
(c) Mercenaries 2,629

Surrendered: More than 5,000

Initial manpower: 260,200

Attrition Rate: 89.6353%

Posted by: Zuma | Aug 7 2022 15:47 utc | 26

"The bulk carrier Razoni with Ukrainian grain has changed the route and, apparently, is waiting for instructions on a new destination, the report said. Twitter Ali Hamiya, Minister of Public Works and Transport of Lebanon.
"Razoni departing from port Odessa with a cargo of corn that was rumored to arrive at the port Tripoli in Lebanon, changes course before arriving at the originally announced destination. The data indicate that it is awaiting instructions to determine its new destination," he said.
The ship left Odessa on August 1, on board 26 tons of corn. It was scheduled to arrive in Lebanon this morning."

https://ria.ru/20220807/zerno-1807867554.html


It would be interesting to know why the carrier has changed course and is awaiting instructions, and do the Lebanese desperately need this grain and are being denied it, or is going to somewhere else that needs it more, or is it going to a Ukraine friendly country, are they to receive it first.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:52 utc | 27

On August 7, Ukraine used 220 mm Hurricane MLRS cluster rocket fragmentation submunitions to again hit Zaporozhye nuclear power plant.

The spent fuel area was hit; fragmentation submunitions and the rocket engine hit no more than 400 meters from one of the operating reactors,

see Tass report Energodar said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine dealt another blow to the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant

Posted by: Steven Starr | Aug 7 2022 15:57 utc | 28

the canucks are no different then those in the usa.. the general population remains completely ignorant about what is happening in the ukraine...

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 15:57 utc | 29

For those interested in the statistics of the SMO in Ukraine here are some maps and figures.

"For the entire time of the special operation, the Russian Armed Forces disabled 263 aircraft, 145 helicopters, 1701 drones, 362 anti-aircraft missile systems, 789 multiple launch rocket systems, 4262 tanks and other armored vehicles, 3273 field artillery guns and 4756 units of automotive equipment."


https://ria.ru/20220807/spetsoperatsiya-1807593653.html?rcmd_alg=slotter

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:59 utc | 30

@ Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:59 utc | 30

same data as in post @1.. makes me wonder if people read others posts...

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 16:05 utc | 31

With the deal agreed between Russia and Ukraine on the exporting of grain from Ukraine, part of the deal sees Russian fertiliser and agricultural products allowed back on the world's stage. I think Europe and North America were a bit hasty with their sanctions on this Russian produce, cutting off their own nose to spite their face, and they now realise that they need it.


"The export of Ukrainian grain from the Black Sea ports takes place within the framework of the "food deal" signed on July 22 by representatives Russia, Ukraine, Turkey and UN. The package of these documents involves the lifting of restrictions on the export of Russian agricultural products and fertilizers to world markets, and also determines the algorithm for the safe exit of commercial vessels from the Black Sea ports controlled by Ukraine along specially created maritime humanitarian corridors."


https://ria.ru/20220807/sukhogruz-1807812491.html

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 16:08 utc | 32

james (31).

Ah, yes James thank you for that, I missed that, I'd better pay more attention from now.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 16:11 utc | 33

@ Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 16:11 utc | 33

we are all guilty of this - posting but not necessarily reading others posts...

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 16:16 utc | 34


LOL everyone still trying to make it look like Russia losing big time while ignoring maps

"Showdown looms in Mykolaiv as Putin scrambles to save face" https://twitter.com/i/events/1555850208935919616?s=09

Posted by: HandsomeMan | Aug 7 2022 16:27 utc | 35

Jesus Christ, Amnesty apologize for their report on ukrainian warcrimes!

Amnesty apologises after Ukrainian pressure
https://rt.com/russia/560414-amnesty-apologizes-report-critical-ukraine/

Remember this?

Amnesty apologizes to Kremlin critic Alexey Navalny as it restores his 'prisoner of conscience' status
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/07/europe/navalny-prisoner-of-conscience-amnesty-international-intl/index.html

Something is really rotten in Amnesty.

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 7 2022 17:19 utc | 36

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 7 2022 17:19 utc | 36
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Amnesty International is headquartered in London, says all...

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 17:26 utc | 37

Zanon@36
There will have been pressure from Ukraine. But the pressure that counts with Amnesty comes from Washington and, to a lesser extent, London. And, in particular from the Agencies which supply so many of its staff and ensure that it is well funded.
The organisation was set up to mobilise liberal public opinion against the USSR in the interests of the Empire. That mission has never changed.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 7 2022 17:27 utc | 38

This may look like off topic, but it is connected to Ukraine "crisis."

China continues to raise the stakes in the confrontation with Taiwan, especially against the backdrop of US statements. Chinese State TV informs that the PLA will now conduct regular exercises east of the median line in the Taiwan Strait. Also, notes that the so-called "Taiwan territorial waters" do not exist. In the meantime, China intends to continue the current exercise, which will last until at least August 15 (if it is not extended again). In other words, China is opening a second front for the main sponsor of the Ukraine "crisis," the US.

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 17:36 utc | 39

So the BBC repeats the lie that the Russians shelled the NPP that they control, and then reports that the mayor of Nikopol complains that the Russians are shelling his city daily from the NPP without batting an eye. Unbelievable.

Nikolaev is under lockdown with door-to-door searches for 'traitors' (from RT) but Putin is trying to "save face". This is the face of Ukrainian victory. Desertion, forced conscription, lies and more lies. Where is Bellingcat fanboy Yeowanda to straighten us out?

Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 7 2022 17:37 utc | 40

Link to southfront

On August 7, Russian sources shared photos showing the remains of a US-made AGM-88 HARM anti-radiation missile, that was allegedly launched by Kiev forces, near a position of the Russian military in an unspecified part of Ukraine.

The AGM-88 was designed to detect, attack and destroy radar and transmitter.

The US didn’t announce that it will supply Ukraine with AGM-88 missiles. Nevertheless, Kiev’s Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov said in July that Ukraine will receive anti-radiation missiles, which were not previously in the arsenal of its forces.

The AGM-88 can be launched from several advanced Western fighter jets, none of which are in service with the Ukrainian Air Force. It is possible that Kiev forces have been firing AGM-88 missiles from ground-based launchers.

Posted by: gary | Aug 7 2022 17:37 utc | 41

Amnesty international under fire for failing to announce trigger-warnings ahead of publishing “Russian narratives” (re: Ukraine military activity in civilian neighbourhoods). Many officials, speaking from safe spaces free from dangerous narratives, condemn AI for propagating harmful triggers. Others have required therapy.

Meanwhile, a Phoenix Program redux: full curfew this weekend in Mykolaiv as “authorities try to catch people collaborating with Russia”.

“Districts will undergo checks” says the governor of the region.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-08-05/ukrainian-frontline-city-imposes-weekend-curfew-to-root-out-collaborators

Posted by: jayc | Aug 7 2022 17:40 utc | 42

Republicofscotland @ 25
That's a pity, I'm sure you must be utterly frustrated at the level of awareness on the matter with your fellow Americans
Not frustrated or upset, just amazed. When the subject comes up I retaliate. Got more than a few of the hardcore military veterans scratching their heads. My foreman served in support of special operators for many years. Some have family in Eastern Europe serving in NATO. It is tough sledding but I have made some progress.

The subject does not come up much anymore anyway. Most everyone feeds off their corrupt co opted media outlets.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 7 2022 17:42 utc | 43

@Zuma 26
Thanks for the response.
The previous report gave figures in that range but not as detailed, no non-Ukrainain casualties mentioned for example.
Whats the source of your info.

Posted by: Orchard1 | Aug 7 2022 17:45 utc | 44

Germany publicly says they're sponsoring terrorists

"The Ukrainian counteroffensive will not be similar to what Russia is doing: the actions of UAF will be based on partisans,uprisings in occupied cities,and mobile operations behind enemy lines" - Chief of Staff of the Minister of Defense of Germany

Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2022 17:46 utc | 45

The Morning Star has a good editorial on Amnesty today:
"...Amnesty has historically ignored the dynamics of imperialism and the power structures that maintain the political and economic supremacy of the West over the majority of humanity.

"It will equate the actions of an embattled left government trying to stop violent counter-revolution with those of a brutish imperialist state persecuting a minority.

"So no matter that in Venezuela US-funded white supremacists might be dousing suspected “Chavistas” in petrol and setting them alight, or stringing metal wires across roads to decapitate motorcyclists: using police force to fight back against armed revolt amounted to “a policy of repression” by President Nicolas Maduro.

"So after a year of popular resistance defeated the military coup in Bolivia and overthrew the army-appointed president Jeanine Anez, the elected government’s decision to prosecute her for multiple massacres was deemed to show a “pattern of bias in the system of justice” by Amnesty.

"This is not evidence of bias exactly, though individual Amnesty reports can show it. It is rather the consequence of an individualist approach that ignores the power relations that define exploitation, oppression, resistance and revolt.

"That’s why Amnesty could never accept Nelson Mandela as a “prisoner of conscience,” since armed revolutionary struggle was in its eyes the same as armed state repression..."
https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/article/e/amnestys-not-left-so-why-ukraine-backlash

Posted by: bevin | Aug 7 2022 17:46 utc | 46

Amnesty regrets stress caused by the report;
Amnesty International deeply regrets the distress and anger that our press release on the Ukrainian military's fighting tactics has caused," it said in an email to Reuters.

It does not deny the findings in the report;
While we fully stand by our findings, we regret the pain caused."

They are sorrow for the headaches caused by the report. Poor Zelensky, asperine? ;)

Posted by: DutchZ | Aug 7 2022 17:51 utc | 47

@DutchZ | Aug 7 2022 17:51 utc | 47

"While we fully stand by our findings, we regret the pain caused...." ...to the civilians used as human shields by the UAF? Nope, to the perpetrators of the crime. Orwellian.

Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 7 2022 17:56 utc | 48

Like I said, AI is headquartered in London, so cannot be trusted. It is a tool of the tool of of the Empire of Lies and its puppy, Britain.

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 18:07 utc | 49

A rundown on the current political scene in Kiev by Gordan Hahn.

Needless to say, a complete mess. What will be the spark that blows the powderkeg?

Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 7 2022 18:25 utc | 50

Russian talk show host claimed that 100,000 North Korean “volunteers” are ready to assist in Russia’s ongoing war in Ukraine.
SOURCE:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-army-of-north-korean-volunteers-reportedly-ready-to-help-russia

Korea may be exporting labour to earn hard currency; given the spin in the linked story the suggestion regarding Korean combat troops appears unlikely.

If the LPR/DPR/RF psychological warfare contingent was on the ball they would purchase Korean war Chinese bugles and blow these at night all along the zero line. This would likely increase the UAF desertion rate.

Posted by: Sushi | Aug 7 2022 18:32 utc | 51

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2022 15:52 utc | 27

I think this story is stale or a straight up UA lie.How many Ranzoni ships are out there? Other MSM reported, the Sierra Leone-registered Razoni set sail from Lebanon on Monday [1 Aug], where Beruit customs inspected cargo UA claimed to be contraband, and arrived in Damascus, Syria 4 Aug.

5 Aug, Marine Link, among others, reported "Three new ships with ["]grain["] leave Ukraine under landmark deal": 2 from Chornomorsk and 1 from Odesa.

• 1 carrying 33,000 tonnes of corn [!] from Odesa to STARVING AFRICANS in Ireland;
• 1 carrying 13,000 tonnes of corn [!] from Chornomorsk to STARVING AFRICANS in Britain.
• 1 carrying wtf from Chornomorsk to STARVING AFRICANS in Karasu, Turkey

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 18:33 utc | 52

APsplainin traffic: 1st ship carrying Ukrainian ["]grain["] leaves the port of Odesa (1 Aug) was the "the Sierra Leone-flagged cargo ship Razoni left Odesa carrying over 26,000 tons of corn [!] destined for Lebanon" inexplicably after the other 1st ship, "Syrian" Laodicea [unspecified flag] docked in the Lebanese port of Tripoli (29 July) "carrying 5,000 tons of flour and 5,000 tons of barley".

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 18:52 utc | 53

“... the actions of UAF will be based on partisans,uprisings in occupied cities,and mobile operations behind enemy lines" - Chief of Staff of the Minister of Defense of Germany

Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2022 17:46 utc | 45

I wonder if the German Ministry of Defense has calculated how many civilian administrators their UkroGladio sadists will be able to assassinate before RF responds with sanctions that never go away?

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 7 2022 18:53 utc | 54

sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 18:33 utc | 52

The other "version" says that "someone" (US and/or Israel) are holding up the grain carried by the Razoni, and stopping it from getting to the Lebanese.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 7 2022 18:54 utc | 55

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 15:57 utc | 29

the general population remains completely ignorant about what is happening in the ukraine...

How can you make this statement when Canadians are fully informed by the state broadcaster CBC? Just today CBC delivered the following insightful news story:

Ukraine's state nuclear power company, Energoatom, said on Sunday that a worker was wounded when Russian forces again shelled the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, the biggest in Europe, on Saturday evening.
SOURCE:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russia-war-day165-1.6544097

Last year, the CBC got $1.4 billion in government funding, according to the CBC's annual report, a figure that includes a $36.7 million advance from this year's budget.
SOURCE:
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberals-move-to-modernize-cbc-making-public-broadcaster-less-reliant-on-advertising

Republishing an Energoatom news release is all you get for $1.4 billion.

Posted by: Sushi | Aug 7 2022 18:57 utc | 56

There's this thing about liars, they can't keep their stories straight.
Book it.

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 18:58 utc | 57

And yet... they forgot that there is such a saying, "where three Ukrainians gather, there will definitely be two hetmans and... a traitor."

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 19:07 utc | 58

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 7 2022 18:54 utc | 55

Where's muh WHEAT?

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:09 utc | 59

ACCORDING TO UKRAINIAN INTELLIGENCE...

Two news stories from Finland this week, via the state broadcasting corporation YLE.

1) The Finnish security police Supo wants to criminalize the distribution of "fake news" originating from a foreign intelligence service. Supo also claims the right to decide what is fake and what is true. As Finland has now come under NATO occupation, all "news" produced by NATO or Ukrainian intelligence services are true.

The law proposal mentions "foreign intelligence services" as the origin of the forbidden news. Everything published by RT or Sputnik naturally originates from Russian intelligence. "Intelligence services" are only mentioned in the proposal, as this allows Supo to prosecute the criminal cases in closed court, based on secret evidence and analysis which the public will not be allowed to see.

Luckily only few of the cases will ever come to court. Supo will have the power to send warning notices to violators. Only if people have received a warning and continue with their criminal activity, can the crime be prosecuted. The mere threat of a warning will likely deter most criminals.

Security Police suggests: Deliberately spreading fake news on behalf of a foreign power should be criminalized

Supo proposes a procedure in which a person who shares disinformation from a foreign intelligence service would first be warned. If the action continued, the act would be a crime. The professor of criminal law has reservations about the proposal.

2) Russia fired artillery shells and rocket artillery at its own nuclear power plant. The news story fails to mention that the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant has been under Russian control since March. Amusingly, the story contains a video of the damage, titled "destruction caused by the Russian missile strike [on the NPP] in the Zaporizhzhia region". The source of the video is stated to be the "Telegram channel of Russian occupation authorities".

Worrying information about the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant - radiation sensors damaged in the attack

On Sunday, Russia fired rockets at the storage field of the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant, where spent nuclear fuel is stored.

This was reported by the Ukrainian state nuclear power company Energoatom. According to the company, none of the 174 containers containing radioactive nuclear waste have been damaged and no radioactive leakage has been detected.
However, according to Energoatom, three radiation sensors were damaged in the impact. This means that the detection of radiation and nuclear leaks may be delayed, says Energoatom.

In addition, one employee of the nuclear power plant was injured in the attack.

As a result of Friday's attack on Zaporizhia, a high-voltage line was damaged and one of the nuclear power plant's reactors shut down. In addition, the auxiliary building and the station, which contains oxygen and nitrogen, were damaged in the attack. Energoatom assesses the risk of fire in the area as high.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyi on Sunday demanded additional sanctions on Russia due to nuclear terrorism.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 7 2022 19:16 utc | 60

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 7 2022 19:16 utc | 60
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Goebbels is kid compared to Zelly...

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 19:23 utc | 61

sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:09 utc | 59

Latest news, Razoni stopped near Hatay, (Turkish coast near Idlib) one of three tankers and several unidentified other ships (plus another cargo ship).
https://www.vesselfinder.com/fr
Looks a bit like a pick up joint.
Whose?
*
Why did the westss wheat go a'wandering?

(as Seen on Vessel Finder)

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 7 2022 19:23 utc | 62

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 7 2022 19:16 utc | 60
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By the way, congratulations in living in a country, where the government considers its citizens as dumb.

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 19:25 utc | 63

Where's muh wheat and muh mf PATENT WAIVERS?
France24 | Blinken arrives in Africa ‘to counter Russian influence’ on the continent (6 Aug)

The trip is Blinken’s second to Africa since being appointed secretary of state. His first visit in November 2021 was aimed at "resetting US-African relations following Donald Trump’s presidency, demonstrating the US’ commitment to democracy and showing that the US cares about its relationship with African countries", according to Douglas Yates, a political scientist specialised in African politics who teaches at the American Graduate School in Paris. Blinken visited Kenya, Senegal and Nigeria during his 2021 tour, three countries that "meet the minimum requirements for democracies and have all come out of military rule," Yates said.
[...]
Blinken has been given authorisation for such a mission by H.R. 7311, the "Countering Malign Russian Activities in Africa Act", which the US House of Representatives passed on April 27, 2022. So-called malign Russian activities include the use of hard and soft power to expand Moscow’s influence on the continent.
[...]
Blinken has carefully selected the three countries he will visit, "as, excepting South Africa, they [DR Congo and Rwanda] are not considered models of democracy and the US wants to make sure these countries are on their side, as they have military capacity, which they can use to counter Moscow’s influence", Yates said.
[...]
After his visit to South Africa, Blinken will head to DR Congo from August 9 to 10, when he is expected to state US support for regional efforts, led by Kenya and Angola, to advance peace in eastern DR Congo and the broader Great Lakes region.
Blinken in Africa: Bringing back old alliesMONUSCO: fail

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:26 utc | 64

Re: 100,000 North Korean “volunteers”

Posted by: Sushi | Aug 7 2022 18:32 utc | 51

If the LPR/DPR/RF psychological warfare contingent was on the ball they would purchase Korean war Chinese bugles and blow these at night all along the zero line. This would likely increase the UAF desertion rate.

I mentioned a month ago, right after North Korea recognized the People's Republics, that North Korea could potentially send 100,000 solders to Donbass and Ukraine. I was surprised a month later, when exactly the same number was stated. I started wondering, if I had been part of the psychological operation.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 7 2022 19:26 utc | 65

It's not Ranzoni which went to Lebanon and then finally to Syria, it's Laodice ship (with grain said to be stolen by russians). The Ranzoni ship seems to be stopped in Turkey waiting for a buyer for its corn !
Shameless UA sends its grain to Turkey, Ireland and GB !!! While accusing Putin of causing a famine in the world!

Posted by: stella | Aug 7 2022 19:35 utc | 66

@ Sushi | Aug 7 2022 18:57 utc | 56

lol! cbc gets more for its money then that! they get wire service articles up the yin yang... this one from - Thomson Reuters...

i do notice how they have closed many of these articles to comments.. it seems they would prefer to give the 1.4 billion to the wire services and agencies, then for moderating the comments section... and i have noticed a distinct slant in the comments section when they do open them to commenting, how those pesky canucks tend to not go along with the thrust of the articles, at least 1/2 of the time, which is refreshing...

military summary channel had a good overview on this topic of shelling europes biggest nuclear power plant yesterday in the early minutes of his discussion... basically the ukrainians are firing from nikopol on the other side of the dnipro river about 10 kilometers away as the crow flies... i was looking at pictures on google from nikopol and was wondering if this is a picture of the nuclear plant in the far distance? it is a shame cbc coverage is so bad given all the money they receive from the canuck gov't...

picture from google

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2022 19:36 utc | 67

In the UK parliament Tory MP's gleefully branded a UK citizen as a Russian propagandist for reporting from the liberated cantons of the Donbass. In response the UK Security State derogates the rule of law by classifying journalist Graham Philips as a threat to National Security which the Tory Government duly ratifies by adding him to the Russian sanctions list as a UK citizen persona non grata. He is effectively criminalised and deprived of all human rights and material assets on return to the UK he would probably be imprisoned for treason. Stripped of all rights sanctioned and inundated with death threats, the writing is on the wall for resistors and dissidents in the UK who are critical of Western policy on Ukraine. This is the current obsession of UK democrats who openly advocate the criminalisation of dissident bloggers branded as enemies of the state without any resource to due process and the justice system.

Posted by: Rick | Aug 7 2022 19:41 utc | 68

Turkish coast near Idlib
Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 7 2022 19:23 utc | 62

FULL STOP. What did I say about liars?
Is Idlib on the Azov or Black Seas? Within JCC jurisdiction? Within G7 "embargo" boundaries? NO.
So.
Do not attempt to rationalize or "normalize" what you read purporting to circumvent RUSSIA embargo of de WHEAT, "die Korn", or GRAINS STARVING AFRICANS.
Thar lies madness. All you need to know is, Who is lying--not why--so you may act accordingly within the limits of rational communication. Ethics 101.

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:41 utc | 69

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:26 utc | 64
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Blinky would come back with his tail between his legs. Why should the Black Africa listen to the white Yankees? They always ransacked Africa. There's no way to displace China and Russia from Africa, especially the Black Africa.

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 19:42 utc | 70

@42

Operation Phoenix? Or will it perhaps at some point evolve into Condor, all across Europe?

Posted by: Cherrycoke | Aug 7 2022 19:57 utc | 71

Thank you for all this information. Great news. I just discovered this blog. Go Russia. Keep pounding those bastards.

Posted by: Rick Jefferson | Aug 7 2022 19:57 utc | 72

Sorry for the bold letters...

Posted by: Cherrycoke | Aug 7 2022 19:58 utc | 73

Petri Krohn | Aug 7 2022 19:16 utc | 60

Because Western public wasn't told Zap. npp was taken many months ago. According to msm Ukr troops should reach Moscow soon, they've never lost a village
It's not bad tactics on nato side. Flood with fakes and censor everything else. Keeps the public happy and feeling superior.
The puppets will destroy the whole country and say Russia did it. The question is why they are allowed to live to lie and order shelling of npps?
You'll see, if China has to act they'll go directly at the puppets first.

Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2022 20:02 utc | 74

As Jews, they could be in any country, for they never had a country. Today, he is playing an Ukrainian, which he is not.

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 14:55 utc | 22

This is exactly the framed thinking of antisemitism. Bullshit.

Posted by: njet | Aug 7 2022 20:51 utc | 75

... The puppets will destroy the whole country and say Russia did it. The question is why they are allowed to live to lie and order shelling of npps?
You'll see, if China has to act they'll go directly at the puppets first.

Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2022 20:02 utc | 74

I think there’s an intellectual / legal / diplomatic logic behind the SMO that is leading to these sorts of outcomes but which has, so far, almost certainly served to minimise RF military and UA civilian casualties, thereby greatly aiding the political goals of the SMO.

If RF attacks political targets, senior military or senior intelligence, it invites the same in retaliation. If RF initiates the militarisation Zaporizhzhya NNP with air defense missile systems, UA & handlers would cry out. Now that it’s being scandalously bombarded, the placement of defensive missiles is justified.

I think RF is avoiding making the first move, even at the expense of getting hit. This isn’t about how it looks in the western propaganda gulag, which is a lost cause, or even to the RF domestic audience, it’s about how it looks everywhere else. On that score, RF is constantly seen to underplay its hand and avoid unprovoked militarisation or antagonistic occupation.

All this does lead to crazy outcomes like the HIMARS massacre of war crime prisoners and hits on the apparently undefended NPP. On the other hand, there can’t be many people outside of the west who think RF is responsible for either of those outrages.

RF’s strategy is earning it the benefit of the doubt while the US sector looks more ridiculous and depraved by the day, they are getting covered in the crap of their moronic proxy war.

Granted we’re now discussing the brinksmanship bombardment of the largest NNP in Europe by US-fascist proxy forces, which might have been avoided or at least intercepted.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 7 2022 20:54 utc | 76

This is exactly the framed thinking of antisemitism. Bullshit.

Posted by: njet | Aug 7 2022 20:51 utc | 75
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Antisemitism, you say? That's your word, not mine. His parents had a country, because the USSR allowed that, otherwise, which Jew actually calls the country s/he lives as his/her own? Zelensky is playing being an Ukrainian, which he is not!

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 20:56 utc | 77

Posted by: rp | Aug 7 2022 19:42 utc | 70

What information led you to that conclusion?

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 21:03 utc | 78

Mercouris bloviated about a Chinese invasion of Twaiwan--once China understands it holds (para) "a stronger hand" than US 7th fleet--Erdo-gone is a diplomatic amateur who frequently meets Putin more often than US-NATO (ie. Europe which has been fucking with Anatolia since the 14th cen.) to sell drones (but not S-400) and furniture--which Turks do well--then said Erdogan dislikes Biden, but got along with Trump.
(Dec 2020). Then what happened to TRY? He don't know.

I'm done with those clowns. a paira Anglo-greeks.

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 21:31 utc | 79

"The Ukrainian counteroffensive will not be similar to what Russia is doing: the actions of UAF will be based on partisans,uprisings in occupied cities,and mobile operations behind enemy lines" - Chief of Staff of the Minister of Defense of Germany

Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2022 17:46 utc | 45

Wishful thinking.

Posted by: Olivier | Aug 7 2022 21:34 utc | 80

@78
he's an actor by trade! Playing the role of a Ukrainian president. which he's not! the job was stolen by porky, and Zelinsky has never had any say,power, or free will. completely owned by outside money. just like all actors in Hollywood, 95% of whom are Jewish!
not a conspiracy? how does 0.01% of earths population, make up 95% of actors,bank owners,and media ownership!?

not a conspiracy though, cuz those numbers make sense to you?


you really think they are that smart they rightfully earned all of that?

has nothing to do with robbing murdering and genociding their victims, to steal the goys wealth!

no zionist conspiracy theory here.
just a people who stole the holy land and turned it into the longest running genocide in history and the largest open air prison camp ghettos.

if you disagree, maybe try a trip to Gaza to see how human they are

Posted by: BurnEye | Aug 7 2022 21:38 utc | 81

domestic political analysis
Left Foot Forward
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mile wide and an inch deep: "mouthing cliches"

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 22:18 utc | 83

Posted by: Summary07082022 | Aug 7 2022 12:35 utc | 1

How about just a link next time??

Sheesh.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Aug 7 2022 23:05 utc | 84

Posted by: Summary07082022 | Aug 7 2022 12:35 utc | 1

How about just a link next time??

Sheesh.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Aug 7 2022 23:05 utc | 84

I'd often second that suggestion, but accessing Russian websites (one of which I assume is the source of the "summary") has been a problem for many MoA posters.

Posted by: David Levin | Aug 7 2022 23:15 utc | 85

The wind at Zaporizhzhya NPP over the last few days has been light and blowing in the direction of Crimea, forecast to strenghten from mid weeek in much the same direction.

How dumb do the wesern MSM think their readers and viewers are?

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=46.40;34.77;7&l=wind-10m&t=20220808/0000

Posted by: Gordon | Aug 7 2022 23:22 utc | 86

The one news station....DW? Was reporting the Razoni might have rotten goods that can’t be sold. Other reports are they don’t want to sell it to Lebanon out of revenge for allowing the Russian ship with ‘stolen’ ukie grain to leave port.
In May they were reporting those boats were loaded for too long and will start to rot soon, who knows if that was true or not.

Posted by: Ohhcanada | Aug 7 2022 23:24 utc | 87

Ukraine is now about US/UK fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian. Industrial scale slaughter. War porn.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 7 2022 23:29 utc | 88

sln2002 | Aug 7 2022 19:26 utc | 64


Blinken following after Lavrov now in Africa. Laughable. Who is setting the agenda?

Funny how the Western media insinuated that Lavrov was abandoning Ukraine by going for his trip in Africa including Egypt, almost as if he was escaping and taking a holiday. As if Africa was not part of the world, and Russia had no relations with any country on the huge continent.

Posted by: George | Aug 7 2022 23:57 utc | 89

The wind at Zaporizhzhya NPP over the last few days has been light and blowing in the direction of Crimea, forecast to strenghten from mid weeek in much the same direction.

How dumb do the wesern MSM think their readers and viewers are?

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=46.40;34.77;7&l=wind-10m&t=20220808/0000

Posted by: Gordon | Aug 7 2022 23:22 utc | 86

Readers and viewers who aren't ordinarily dumb might nonetheless be brainwashed, such that they will project a sinister motive if there's no sensible one.

Posted by: David Levin | Aug 7 2022 23:59 utc | 90

Interesting: per the LiveUAmap used frequently here, Ukraine has gained slightly more territory in the past week around the M03 toward Izyum than Russia/proxies have pushing north from Donetsk city. The feature to snap the map back to a specific date is pretty cool - looks like they have a REST API but getting a key requires a paid subscription, bummer. Wouldn't mind playing around with that data.

Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 8 2022 0:04 utc | 91

Peter AU1 | Aug 7 2022 23:29 utc | 88

I heard from a video of Brian Berletic and Mark Sleboda that Ukraine was rounding up conscripts as old as 75 now. They are also bandaging up wounded soldiers and sending them back to the front line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__sVuhjJPOY

Also the Military Summary Channel on Youtube said today that within the Kramatorsk-Bakhmut region where heavy fighting is taking place, the Ukrainians are rounding up local civilians and putting them on the front line too

Posted by: George | Aug 8 2022 0:14 utc | 92


The French nuclear agency, the IRSN, in 2005 produced an animation of the path of the radioactive plumes over Europe from them destroyed Chernobyl between 26th April and 6th May 1986. The IRSN site describes this as "Representation of cesium-137 radioactivity concentration over Europe between 26 April and 6 May 1986"

IRSN has removed the video from their site (must be bad publicity for nuclear), however, it still can be found online, see IRSN animation of cesium-137

There are six nuclear reactors at the Zaporozhye (Zaporizhzhia) nuclear power plant and they each have a spent fuel pool (Chernobyl did not have a spent fuel pool). Each pool probably holds 3 to 5 times more long-lived radionuclides than does each reactor. The pools must be cooled 24/7 or else the heat from the spent fuel assemblies will cause the water in the pools to boil off. If the fuel rods in the assemblies are exposed to air or steam, they will heat to the point of rupture or ignition and release massive amounts of radiation.


Posted by: Steven Starr | Aug 8 2022 0:15 utc | 93

"Well CNN just did a report on the ukies lined up headed to Russia and said hardly anyone is leaving the Russian side. They must be getting ready to pack it up soon.

Posted by: OhhCanada | Aug 7 2022 15:32 utc | 24"

I saw that report as well - I wonder if the viewers could comprehend what the report meant given the Western news diet.

Posted by: daffyDuct | Aug 8 2022 0:20 utc | 94

Michigan Dude #84

How about you skip it and leave us to read.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 8 2022 0:22 utc | 95

@ Summary07082022 | Aug 7 2022 12:35 utc | 1 with the Russia MOD summary

Thanks for that. I appreciate your providing it on a semi-regular basis so I don't have to go outside this forum for a fairly comprehensive view of the SMO

I sure hope all these proxy wars come to a conclusion soon so humanity can get on with trying to live on starship earth together

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2022 0:30 utc | 96

George | Aug 8 2022 0:14 utc | 92

Yes. There is also a bit about that on Rus MoD telegram channel.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2022 0:32 utc | 97

Silencing the only Ukrainian born US Member of Congress is not going so well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxumysKu3LQ

Jackson Hinkle "they are SILENCING HER"
8 minute utoob

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 8 2022 0:42 utc | 98

Blinkers Goes To Africa!

South Africa and then onwards to Zimbabwe to unveil a statue of Cecil Rhodes for his humanitarian work in that country.

Posted by: WTFUD | Aug 8 2022 0:47 utc | 99

The US has an unlimited supply of play money it can send to Ukraine or elsewhere. It can give money to the world's largest military contractor - Lockheed Martin; or the second largest, Boeing (which would be bankrupt without free money); or the 3rd, Raytheon; or the 4th, Pfizer, (yes, Pfizer is a military contractor and so is Humana).

The US will keep throwing out its fake money to friends until the international community calls "bullshit".

The money is not real. It is paper and numbers on computer terminals. It is backed by nothing other than the full faith and credit of Joe Biden and Donald Trump plus Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton and Epstein.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Aug 8 2022 0:53 utc | 100

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