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August 22, 2022
Ukraine – Dugina Killer Identified – War Of Attrition Continues

It seems that Russian authorities have found the killer of Darya Dugina.


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The killer, one Natalya Vovk, is associated with the Azov Nazis of Ukraine. So is her brother. Both are in Ukraine right now but will probably flee elsewhere.

Yelensis has details that point to willful murder of Darya Dugina:´

[A]n important clarification was already delivered by the experts: As to the question whether the bomb was on a timer or remote control, the answer already came in: Remote control. This fact has huge ramifications. WarGonzo blogger Semyon Pegov points out that the person who pressed the remote-control button to ignite the bomb, would have been in visual contact with the car and its occupant: “In other words, the terrorists who were supposedly out to blow Dugin up in his own car, would have observed, how Darya got into the car instead. Not the original target. And then they would have had to make a decision: To blow up, or not to blow up? And they took the decision: Go ahead and blow up the daughter. So, Darya became the new target. And this is, it goes without saying, an entirely new level of terrorism. Not even your average ISIS terrorist would take such a low step.”

Aleksandr Dugin, Darya's father, as well as his daughter had been threatened:

The Ukrainians threaten and blacklist everybody in the world who doesn’t give them full and unconditional support.

Dugin, however, is a special case, and particularly hated by the West and their proxies. Both Dugin and his daughter are on American/British “sanctions” lists. Dugin has been the recipient of non-stop hate-speech for years now. Westies hate and demonize him because of his philosophical ideas and anti-Liberal ideology. Darya herself has a degree in Political Philosophy and shared her father’s ideology. Both were strong supporters of the Russian “Special Military Operation” against the Ukraine. Which would have made them “fair game” according to the usual Ukrainian standards. However, nothing has been proved yet, so we shall just have to wait and see.

In the continuation of this story, we will discuss Dugin’s “harmful” ideas, some interesting history of his political career; and how the Westie press is inhumanely revelling in his grief.

You can catch Yelensis' writings at Awful Avalanche.

Meanwhile the fighting in Ukraine continues with recent Russian offenses launched on all fronts. In the north the slow move to Karkiv continues. The Russian forces in the south move towards Mykolaiv (Nikolaev). In the east attacks against Soledar and Bakhmut continue. All these moves are supported by intense strikes on every Ukrainian headquarter and troop concentration the Russian military intelligence can find. This hunting down and killing of complete battalions and brigades behind the immediate frontline is costing a lot of Ukrainian soldiers' lives and is preventing any Ukrainian countermoves. This is on top of the daily massive artillery use against Ukrainian frontline positions.

In a recent interview Colonel Markus Reisner of the Austrian army described the situation (in German). Some excerpts:

If you look at the battles in detail, you can see one thing from a military point of view: the western arms deliveries are having an effect, but still not in a resounding and sustainable form. The result must be measurable. Only when the Russian attacks are completely stopped or when the Russian troops retreat (similar to the situation around Kyiv in March 2022) can one actually speak of a turning point in the war from a sober, objective and military point of view. The western arms shipments that have arrived so far mean that the Ukrainian armed forces have "too much to die and too little to live". If the 16 HIMARS multiple rocket launchers delivered from the USA so far have achieved understandable success, the question arises: Why is the USA not delivering more?

May be because it does not have more to give but more likely is that the U.S. wants to prolong the conflict at a near stalemate as long as possible.

Can Ukraine win this war?

If the West does not deliver increased numbers of state-of-the-art weapons (including above all artillery and multiple rocket launchers, but also long-range anti-aircraft defense systems) to Ukraine in the coming weeks, Ukraine will not be able to win this conflict. It is therefore in the hands of the West how this war will continue. As long as Ukraine cannot protect its airspace against Russian cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, any regional military rearmament seems illusory. But this is necessary if Ukraine wants to regain possession of the lost land. Those areas that you need to be able to survive economically.

It is highly unlikely that the Ukraine will ever regain the former Russian territory that in 1922 Vladimir Ilʹich Lenin, for whatever reason, gave to Ukraine and that Russia is currently taking back. A war of attrition, which Russia with its industrial capability to sustain endlessly, can not be won by Ukraine. Even more massive support from the 'west' would be insufficient.

But the war will be won on a different front:

Modern warfare is above all a war of minds. The image we have of a conflict decisively shapes our opinion on it. It determines whether we perceive a conflict as "just" and whether we are willing to support it. At the moment, in the conflict in Ukraine, this support begins in our communications and ends in the delivery of weapons. It is therefore always the aim of the opponents to influence the respective other side. The military calls this approach "cognitive warfare." A comprehensive war of attrition is rarely decided on the battlefield, but often in the minds of the population in the hinterland.

For the Russian side, the decisive point of attack is therefore the West's willingness to continue to support Ukraine. Russia is therefore trying to weaken this willingness in all available domains (especially in the cyber and information space). Extraction of raw materials and threats of nuclear weapons are the weapons used here to achieve an effect. The West, on the other hand, is trying to hit the cohesion of Russian society. Sanction packages and economic punitive measures are intended to exert pressure. The Russian economy is already taking a serious hit. The question is, will these bring about a change in behavior or not? At the moment, decisive success cannot be measured either on the battlefield or on the home front, which makes it clear that the guns in Ukraine are far from silent.

The extremely stupid European sanctions against Russian energy have caused severe damage to European economies. This is already breaking  the 'western' will for further support of Ukraine. During July none of the bigger European countries has promised and delivered more heavy weapons to Ukraine.

On August 24 Ukraine has some independence holiday. Zelensky and his team will likely want to present some 'success' for that day. A nasty incident around the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant, which the Ukraine continues to shell,  or elsewhere can therefore be expected to happen over the next few days.

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“…The memory of Daria Dugina will forever be preserved by relatives and friends, her like-minded people and associates.
“Strength and courage to you in this mournful hour.
Vladimir Putin”
james | Aug 22 2022 16:11 utc | 34

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Thank you, James. A conspicuous omission in Putin’s thoughtful letter of condolence: the promise of vengeance, an eye for an eye. Admiration grows.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Aug 23 2022 12:31 utc | 301

UncleT@277…tune in Saturday when he does his Patreon blog, he covers the very accurate strikes by Ukies on Russian ammo dumps, watch it yesterday? Big ammo dump in Kherson, gone. Two or three nights ago one up Izum way, the explosion was so big it was heard and felt in the LDNR. Won’t change the war? Six months in and the Russians are trying to blow the bridge in Nickolev. The only bridge across the river and six months later someone wants to close the barn door. Too fucking funny. Rail lines right up to the front, work. Russians per Dima are trying to cut them. Huh? Blow the fucking things up already. Mickey mousing around has allowed NATO to amass forces in the Baltics and Poland. The lack of loc movement west speaks volumes. Even Dima on the ‘counts’ was ho hum, like, it’s really slow. Believe what you want.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 23 2022 12:32 utc | 302

Thank you, sometimes I scan too fast and should grok the text slowly.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 23 2022 10:41 utc | 289
My understanding of ‘grok’ is that arises as an instant flash of complete comprehension of the whole thing all at once. But maybe I misgrocked it.
For the record, I never suggested that RF did it only a) that the unidentifiable body plus b) the rapidly identified and already fled killer raises questions viz the published narrative and c) FSB might have uncovered the plot and then staged the kill both to thwart Azov plans and garner a surge of support for more extensive war for which the already well known father will soon be on national TV fiercely advocating.
Just a possibility based on a few facts thus far which of course might change as more details are published.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 23 2022 12:46 utc | 303

Interesting.
The RF police are first-class operators. The combined police forces of the Russian Federation make every USSA law enforcement officer in Federal/State/city look like a completely incompetent untrained non-professional shoot first questions later/plant evidence on the dead/rank amateurs/racist bullies and thugs.
Of course, they also had a small amount of assistance from sources within country 404, too.
No matter where the assassins or planners hide. A missile with the names of these fools will always be chasing their six.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Aug 23 2022 12:51 utc | 304

@Zanon
Because of the angle!
The geometry of the blast !
Can you understand that the blast should have firstly destroyed the steel parts of the car where the plates were pop riveted.
You have also to answer about the car factory serial numbers, on the engine and elsewhere.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 13:05 utc | 305

Believe what you want.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 23 2022 12:32 utc | 304
I believe the Russians are in no hurry to stop killing NotZees and blowing up as much western military gear as possible. So they don’t want them to get discouraged yet. Having NotZees come attack you is much quicker and easier than having to go hunt them down in the Southern cone of S. America.
Having the West work hard to disable themselves and their societies socially, economically and politically this last 30 years has been a great help too.
And all those weapons labs, such a big PR win for the West.
Why would they be in a hurry to end this? It’s like a windfall.
Banana Republics don’t get to rule the planet.
And Nerds aren’t going to do it for you either.
Personally, I think ruling the planet is a stupid idea. Much better to serve it. Be a steward, not a parasite. Earn your keep. Then you might get something “sustainable”, something you could rely on, and a lot more free time. The Aborigines in OZ have been there a very long time. We should kiss their feet and beg them to help us.
Spending your one lifetime in pursuit of fiat money is what sounds stupid and slow to me. I have personal experience of that. Aside from the time I worked in a sawmill, it was all a waste time and money, stored in some warehouse somewhere (at continued expense to all).
The first thing I understood about the “defense” business was they are run just like a car dealership, everything is about sales.
It’s always been my understanding a good commander conserves his men and equipment and their ability to engage. I don’t see the West doing anything of the sort, so why stop them? How often is your enemy going to prostrate himself in your front yard and expose his neck?
Sooner of later the West is bound to wise up.

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 23 2022 13:17 utc | 306

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 23 2022 12:46 utc | 305
If you say that the fsb staged part of the azov plot, in order to :
1- get the collateral benefit in propaganda
2 – save the life of Dugina
3 – publicly charges azov for the murder
would you also say that azov is less smart than you therefore azov could not predict that :
1 – Russian propaganda would gain collateral benefit
2 – azov would be publicly charged, as a consequence of its modus operandi.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 13:34 utc | 307

“A conspicuous omission in Putin’s thoughtful letter of condolence: the promise of vengeance, an eye for an eye. Admiration grows.
Posted by: Doug Hillman | Aug 23 2022 12:31 utc | 302”
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You are just too used to the gangsters who run America and the way they talk. If you miss it, go watch some old newsreels of Adolf Hitler vowing vengeance and retribution upon his enemies. Its what the White House Press Conference uses for script material and trainings.
And, that’s a bi-partisan thing in this system of Two-Party Fascism that America has going these days. They’ve added the Blame The Other Party feature to try to improve fascism’s stability and see if they can get a wee bit closer to their boss’ target of a Thousand Year Reich.

Posted by: Buggsy Rabbitts | Aug 23 2022 13:40 utc | 308

“The combined police forces of the Russian Federation make every USSA law enforcement officer in Federal/State/city look like a completely incompetent untrained non-professional shoot first questions later/plant evidence on the dead/rank amateurs/racist bullies and thugs.”
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Aug 23 2022 12:51 utc | 305
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This perhaps is because the American police actually are a bunch of incompetent, untrained non-professional shoot first questions later/plant evidence on the dead/rank amateurs/racist bullies and thugs.
Remember, much of the American police today was trained at checkpoints in Iraq and Afghanistan where they shot up the ragheads first then learned to write reports that covered it up later. Every American police department hiring page has a big notice on it that says they proudly give preferential hiring to anyone who has shot up ragheads at a checkpoint.
I found it fascinating that in the latest AT&T drama about Baltimore Police on HBO, they have a scene where they can not find a jury because everyone called for jury duty has already been robbed or beaten and had a close family member robbed or beaten or killed by the po-lice.
Welcome to America.
What do you expect? If the police commanders are willing to cover up murders, like we’ve seen in case after case where the po-lice lie until finally forced to release the video that shows the execution, do you not think that the front-line police have long figured out that they can rob and beat anyone they want and get away with it? That the po-lice might think “They Own This City”?
Right-wing whites are only just now noticing this because they are only now both dropping down into the lower classes of society and that they are just now only beginning to be called despicable and ‘the problem’ and soon ‘the enemy’ by the po-lice in their next War On Fill-In-The-Blank. Welcome to America.

Posted by: Buggsy Rabbitts | Aug 23 2022 13:55 utc | 309

Algumas Considerações Sobre o Infame Assassinato de Daria Dugina:
https://toranja-mecanica.blogspot.com/2022/08/algumas-consideracoes-sobre-o-infame.html

Posted by: Toranja Mecânica | Aug 23 2022 14:05 utc | 310

Of course it was this woman, she are free to show up and claim her innocence. But no, she wont do that of obvious reasons – she is the guilty one.
Posted by: Zanon | Aug 23 2022 6:55 utc | 256
She would have been able to infiltrate and receive an apartment even, BECAUSE she had a child with her. I hope she will be soon apprehended and given the right to tell what she did and why. That might be more important than any other result, given the understandable paranoia being expressed on this thread.
To those who are fabricating conspiracy theories, please stop. This is not the time for that. You are destroying your own credibility.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 23 2022 14:07 utc | 311

Killing someone because you don’t like what they said in books that they’ve written.
Yep, the Final Destination of both “Cancel Culture” as well as “Lock Them Up”. Tolerance of other opinions is not a strong feature of either.

Posted by: Quiet Foghorn | Aug 23 2022 14:49 utc | 312

Scorpion | Aug 23 2022 12:24 utc | 301
Colony in origin is a garrison in conquered territory, so can not refer to the reduction of the inland population to servitude
The former was a natural to describe European practices overseas, the latter has usually been discussed in terms of class war
Here – The original question raised was why the EU élites were enthusiastically adopting policies which could only ruin their countries, and why the peoples of these countries were so submissive in acceptance, so parroty of infantile demonisations of the so called enemy, so sold on the idea
The US colonisation of Europe is matched by US demilitarisation – they have planes but no cannon fodder – the EU has cannon fodder but only US planes (well..)
This, with the off shoring of everything, means the USRC has no use for their natives, the second settlers they imported to replace the first settlers they exterminated – for now they can use the EU as a work camp and war zone
EU élites find well paid employment as prison guards, with a promised merge to Miami, the pop as inmates on the whole still just about comfy : back then the English had a phrase for this ‘I’m alright, Jack’

Posted by: Gerrard White | Aug 23 2022 14:52 utc | 313

In the first place the assassination of Daria Alexandrovna is a horrifying personal tragedy for Mr. Dugin. Secondly, rather than an insult to Russia, it demonstrates the utter ethical collapse of the “West.” Just look at the coverage and comments in “Western” media. “Opinion leaders” and “journalists” scarcely know which mental athletics they should perform to applaud or relativize the vile murder of a leading philosopher’s daughter. After all, they need to get ready for the next round of moral swindling for the upcoming chapter of the great Covid Show. At the same time they must try to be, albeit seemingly, consistent with their usual blather about “diversity,” “inclusivity,” special rights and privileges for “people of color,” and the divergent group of people suffering from personality disorders known as the “LGBTQ-etc-community.”
For the talking heads in the “West” it is impossible and if not, exceedingly difficult, to reconcile the whitewashing of the Moscow killing with the lofty ideals they so emphatically profess.
For now, let’s all lean back and enjoy the show.

Posted by: Hans Vogel | Aug 23 2022 15:10 utc | 314

To those who are fabricating conspiracy theories, please stop. This is not the time for that. You are destroying your own credibility.
Posted by: juliania | Aug 23 2022 14:07 utc | 312

I clearly indicated that the theories that the FSB either; allowed it to happen or created a false flag or faked Dugina’s death were all “possibilities’, not probabilities.
However, we all know by now that the intelligence agencies of all countries are not to be trusted and they tend to parsimonious with the truth.
This event reminded me of the ending the French Spy TV show “The Bureau”.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4063800/
There was also a link to this document previously in this thread. I strongly recommend you have a look at the “Cognitive Bias Codex” on page 14.
https://www.innovationhub-act.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/20210122_CW%20Final.pdf

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 23 2022 15:30 utc | 315

Bemilderd@307… ‘no rush’, do you take pleasure in the suffering of others. As you wait for Russia to grind Ukie meat, millions are on the receiving end to the point where now a nuclear incident may/will occur. Slow and easy had its place. Once the totally useless long range HIMARs rockets are in theatre I’m figuring there a few nuclear plants in Russia that will be in range….if I’m wrong, someone will quickly correct me. Kinda gives new meaning to Glowies though, no?

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 23 2022 15:34 utc | 316

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 23 2022 15:34 utc | 317
I didn’t say anything about it being a good thing. I expect it to be pretty bad. Far better everybody had decided to get along. But once you have created the situation, you have to deal with it on its merits or the lack of them. Continuing to mis-represent what is going there just perpetuates the war, which accumulates more damage.

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 23 2022 15:42 utc | 317

“Just as within groups of ordinary citizens, a dominant characteristic appears to be remaining loyal to the group by sticking with the decisions to which the group has committed itself – even when the policy is working badly and has unintended consequences that disturb the conscience of the members. In a sense, members consider loyalty to the group the highest form of morality. That loyalty requires each member to avoid raising controversial issues, questioning weak arguments, or calling a halt to wishful thinking”.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/08/22/descent-into-madness/
Grieved in MoA week in review #82 has passionate post about this important issue.
Simply put, far more dangerous than off the wall comments or ‘conspiracy theories’ is the tendency towards promoting group think. Generally doeaking:avoid telling others what to think or say.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 23 2022 15:45 utc | 318

just to say, this is about exactly on the timeline I guessed at; once the elections neared, once Fall neared the reality of the May-flowery dreams of Spring would set in, the prospects of a cold Winter, a slow Winter with crippled energy set in, so would reality. Seems Russia has realized most of their territorial aims and would be willing to settle with facts on the ground, or even return some. Maybe Odessa is a goal/want. Once/if Russia takes Odessa I bet we see them offer a truce/negotiations; I’m not sure the “people” are ready for that; by people I mean the spin/sell job it would take to settle would be DC/NATO’s biggest concern

Posted by: scottindallas | Aug 23 2022 15:52 utc | 319

@ Scorpion | Aug 23 2022 15:45 utc | 319
is that a word? “doeaking”
i guess you mean speaking… took me a minute to figure that out, lol..

Posted by: james | Aug 23 2022 15:55 utc | 320

Surely changing the license plate must be illegal and must have been flagged.
Posted by: Robert Macaire | Aug 23 2022 4:48 utc | 246
Flagged! Woot! Got to love these undefined, ambiguous American chill words. Perhaps there was a tiny inspector hidden in the garage who “flagged” her the moment she picked up a screw driver?

Posted by: Mike | Aug 23 2022 15:56 utc | 321

@ mike – same mike in moscow? thanks for any view from moscow… i appreciated your earlier comment in this thread…

Posted by: james | Aug 23 2022 16:06 utc | 322

“There was never such a thing as Ukraine until 1991. Ukraine was immediately an American colony. Ukraine existed as a notion held by ethnic nationalists only since 1880s. As an entity it has only existed 31 years.
Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 22 2022 15:04 utc | 3”
“https://www.sparknotes.com/history/european/1871-1914/section2/ many of the people who were in Bismarks time were supporters of the Zionist congresses that were happening ever more frequenctly after Hertzl in 1897.. these people were involved with energy, rail roads, and were hell bent on Isolating Gremany (sanctions would be a better word) from its highly efficient technology and manufacturing know-how.. additionally Germany had given the Ottoman at large railroad network, and were in the process of producing Ottoman oil.. This competition was too much for those involved in the Zionist movement it seems. Has anyone traced from 1850s.. to 1947?
Posted by: snake / Aug 23 2022 0:42 utc / 210”
I am always amazed how fast facts and knowledge evaporate. The Ukraine began to exist sometime during the First World War. Before that time it was known as “Little Russia,” in Russian and in other languages (please check your grandfather’s atlas). In 1945 the Ukraine became a member of the UN, like the USSR and White Russia (Belarus). So it did exist before 1991.
As for the English and their urge to do nasty things to Germany after 1900, it was to do specifically with the “Berlin Baghdad Railway” through the Ottoman Empire. This was perceived as a major threat to the British domination of India and point east. Check Halford Mackinder.

Posted by: Hans Vogel | Aug 23 2022 16:34 utc | 323

If the assassin fled to Estonia (gasp) maybe Estonia was in on it. Or maybe Finland which would account for the hyper emphasis on the partying PM.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 23 2022 16:39 utc | 324

Nazis bombing fascists? Makes sense I guess if they are both ultra nationalists. Must be a power vacuum regionally. What’s not to love about this situation?

Posted by: Idland | Aug 23 2022 16:45 utc | 325

Posted by: james | Aug 23 2022 16:06 utc | 323
You’re very welcome, James. I’ll certainly comment on things whenever I have something useful to contribute.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 23 2022 16:46 utc | 326

Mike | Aug 23 2022 15:56 utc | 322
Yes Mike – you are right
All US garages have security camera surveillance, as do all rooms in all houses etc – these belong to Bezos, who is very particular about what goes on in garages, because – it was in his parent’s garage that he went to tinker up Amazon, : this story is legend, is flagged deep in US consciousness, now he wants to get into every Russian garage, and so…..

Posted by: Gerrard White | Aug 23 2022 16:47 utc | 327

is that a word? “doeaking” i guess you mean speaking… took me a minute to figure that out, lol.. Posted by: james | Aug 23 2022 15:55 utc | 321
Brain so tangled up in blue with conspiracytheoritis that can neither spell nor read straight!!

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 23 2022 16:54 utc | 328

US are desperate to break the status quo which at the moment consists of the industrialized destruction of the Ukraine military. There have been a great many provocations recently to try and force Russia into a knee jerk change of strategy. It is obvious from the investigation into the murder that it was the daughter, not the father who was targeted, The father would have been a bonus but not vital for the operation. The daughter was a journalist and well known within her own right within Russia.
Killing an old man does not create as much anger as the murder of a young woman.
As for the investigation – there are 3.5 million Ukraine refugees in Russia. A common figure for the daily exodus to Russia is 20,000. That’s a lot of people to check. A woman and her daughter crossing from Donbass into Russia with Donbas plates is most likely to simply have details recorded. Orders had been given at the start of the SMO to ensure no barriers to those wanting refuge in Russia.
As for ID of the victim, apart from the father following in another car, there is dental to quickly establish ID plus DNA. The ape like thinking of a few here leave a lot to be desired.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2022 16:56 utc | 329

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2022 16:56 utc | 330
Yes, the father told that his daughter was in the burned car. And the FSB could testify that dental and DNA blahblah…
Where is your reliable eyewitness who could not have an agenda ?

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 17:20 utc | 330

Parisian Guy
Well that was my question, what is your angle? I dont understand what you argument is here. You do not believe she was killed?

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 23 2022 17:25 utc | 331

Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 17:20 utc | 331
Putin has 80% plus approval rating dues to the SMO. Prior to the SMO it was in the 60% range. Both Dugin’s were fully supportive of the SMO.
US/UK have initiated a huge amount of provocations in the last weeks to try and anger Russia into changing course. Many Russians would Prefer the government to take a much harder kneejerk course of action.
Sawdust for brains types try to put this as an inside job… Make sure you wear earplugs so you don’t have to sweep up.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2022 17:36 utc | 332

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 17:20 utc | 331
Which agenda?
It looks like you are going along with the numerous “points of view” of the western medias and the azov ukronazis.
You have visibly your own agenda. Siding with enemies of Russia.

Posted by: Olivier | Aug 23 2022 19:27 utc | 333

I just hope Vovk’s life insurance is fully paid up. I wouldn’t want to be in her shoes.

Posted by: paul | Aug 23 2022 19:33 utc | 334

… You are just too used to the gangsters who run America and the way they talk. If you miss it, go watch some old newsreels of Adolf Hitler vowing vengeance and retribution upon his enemies. Its what the White House Press Conference uses for script material and trainings.

Posted by: Buggsy Rabbitts | Aug 23 2022 13:40 utc | 309

Agreed, the whole Yankee sector is marinated in their Running Man fascism. Deranged US crazies project all of that onto Russia, where it doesn’t belong.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 23 2022 20:34 utc | 335

@Olivier.
It is childish to question the motive of your opponent, when there is no specific foundation for that question.
For you and @PeterAU :
The recent US/UK provocations may anger the russian direction, but they don’t touch very much the russian masses.
What this staged event has created is an icon, a female martyr of the patriotic idealism. Something like Johann of Arc in french war history (burned alive too). Think Bernays/Freud/Young.
There is two possible purpose :
– since Putin doesn’t want to draft the young russian male, there is not enough men on the frontline. The Dhugina martyrdom will create the thousands of volunteer who are needed.
– there is noise about something big coming In that case, it is useful to strengthen/densify the opinion of the masses.
@Zanon. Hurrah ! You just understood the hypothesis which I claim since my first comment, two day ago. The burned body inside the burned car is not from Dhugina. And the burned car is not her car. That’s why the fsb premptively told the russian msm that the burned body and the burned car numbers were unrecognizable.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 20:53 utc | 336

Both Dugin’s were fully supportive of the SMO.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2022 17:36 utc | 333
Yes, yes and yes, you are perfectly right, and therefore you explain why they participated to this faked event.
How are your earplugs ?

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 21:05 utc | 337

the truth is you’re full of crap on arctic “sea ice extent”. that’s why you have to link to some fossil fuel shill site to back up your point.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 22 2022 20:47 utc | 142
No need to shoot the messenger. The data is from the JAXA satellite instrument, and is presented by the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center. Why not download it and verify the facts for yourself?
https://woodfortrees.org/data/nsidc-seaice-n/from:2014.7/trend/plot/nsidc-seaice-n/from:2014.7
Posted by: Gt Stroller | Aug 22 2022 20:59 utc | 148
Speaking of facts, I’d just like to point out we are in 2022, not 2014, when your citation was published, and here in Canada we’ve hit unheard of record temperatures (over 30 degrees C this year) above the Arctic Circle several years running. Specific effects in specific regions are not linear over short spans, but there is no question whatever the Arctic is doomed, along with vast, heavily populated areas much further south, and will be witnessed by anyone under 65 now and many now older – assuming the US doesn’t take us all down with it first.

Posted by: tom E | Aug 23 2022 22:14 utc | 338

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 20:53 utc | 337
Ad personam fallacy. And it is not for you to decide if a question has no “specific foundation”. It is pretty sure that my question hit the nail on the head.
Obviously you are living in a fantasy world with lots of unsupported speculations with very “specific foundations”. That is: anti-russian and nazi “foundations”.
“there is not enough men on the frontline”… Only in your “specific” mind.
CQFD

Posted by: Olivier | Aug 23 2022 22:30 utc | 339

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Aug 22 2022 20:59 utc | 148
messengers are not the same as shills or dupes. do you know you are cherrypicking data to lie? if not, you would be a dupe.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 23 2022 22:39 utc | 340

A Russian media told firstly that the number plates didn’t survive.
Isn’t that pure bullshit? For which purpose?
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 10:48 utc | 291
The burned body inside the burned car is not from Dhugina. And the burned car is not her car. That’s why (…) the burned body and the burned car numbers were unrecognizable.
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 20:53 utc | 337

So the FSB would’nt have been able to get number plates made?
Pathetic.

Posted by: Leuk | Aug 23 2022 22:42 utc | 341

Leuk | Aug 23 2022 22:42 utc | 342 “A Russian media told firstly that the number plates didn’t survive”
Either PG is pure troll or brain dead with that one. Number plates are indented so even if paint is burned off can be read. No blast is going to destroy both front and rear plates to the extent the pieces can’t be picked up and read.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2022 23:01 utc | 342

Peter AU1 @343–
Pure Troll.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 23 2022 23:30 utc | 343

I just hope Vovk’s life insurance is fully paid up. I wouldn’t want to be in her shoes.
Posted by: paul | Aug 23 2022 19:33 utc | 335
Facile comment – no insurer covers you in commission of a crime……….
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 23 2022 13:05 utc | 306
You clearly have bomb-making expertise………..
Did you consider Toyota Prado supposedly has a plastic roof, and presumably an aluminium shell if it is like other SUVs, and a steel chassis ?

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 24 2022 6:29 utc | 344

Posted by: nightdipper | Aug 22 2022 16:45 utc | 47
You’re logic is almost singularly stupid, amongst all who are actually capable of posting on the inter-webs.
So…some people stricken with delusions of grandeur do something illegal and immoral, therefore others should do something illegal and immoral…
I heard “Crazy-Bob” copulates with donkeys, shall I follow your logic and furnish you with a suggestion?

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 24 2022 8:02 utc | 345

I am beginning to understand why Russia is not interested in occupying Kiev. If the trolls here are representative for Ukrainian society, I wouldn’t be interested either.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 24 2022 8:47 utc | 346

Does anyone know about this Eric Draitser character? From what I can tell he’s written for RT in the past. He is saying that Dugin and the “Dugin network” had a heavy hand in the original uprisings among the people of Donbas ca. 2014. He makes many other allegations about Russia combing its prisons to send the worst of the worst to the frontlines in Ukraine. This is counterintuitive and false to me without any actual evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhjLdhUjWbQ
I asked him to elaborate and provide source materials in the comments of this video at YouTube.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2022 23:33 utc | 347