Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 09, 2022

Trump Raid Is Sabotaging The Democrats' Campaign

Over the weekend the Democrats finally passed their rather mediocre $430 billion Inflation Reduction Act, which will not reduce inflation and is mostly about climate related measures and drugs. They hope to profit from it in the November midterm election:

Vulnerable incumbent Democratic senators like Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire and Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada are already planning events promoting the landmark legislation they passed over the weekend. Democratic ad makers are busily preparing a barrage of commercials about it across key battlegrounds. And the White House is set to deploy Cabinet members on a nationwide sales pitch.

The sweeping legislation, covering climate change and prescription drug prices, which came together in the Senate after more than a year of painfully public fits and starts, has kicked off a frenetic 91-day sprint to sell the package by November — and win over an electorate that has grown skeptical of Democratic rule.

But on the very same day the the Justice Department and the FBI handed republicans a huge new rallying point that will significantly increase their election turnout:

Hoards of angry Donald Trump supporters descended on his Mar-a-Lago home last night shortly after it emerged that the FBI had searched the ex-president's estate as part of an investigation into whether he took classified records from the White House to the Florida residence.

Trump, disclosing the search in a lengthy statement, claimed that agents had opened up a safe at his home and described their work as an 'unannounced raid' that he called 'prosecutorial misconduct.'

He accused the FBI of a double standard, claiming the bureau 'allowed' Hillary Clinton to 'acid wash' 33,000 emails from her time as Secretary of State.

Those in his camp said the raid was a clear attempt to thwart a potential 2024 Presidential run.

Trump has not formally announced any campaign but speculation that he will run again is rife. It was compounded by his appearance at C-Pac this weekend.

The raid is guaranteed to be covered in multiple news rounds. It will give Trump new momentum for announcing his campaign:

As Trump weighs running for the presidency for a third time, the implications of the FBI’s foray into Mar-a-Lago for his political fortunes are considerable. Will it boost his status as a martyr, prompting the GOP to rally around him? Or is it the first real sign of myriad legal difficulties, ranging from wire fraud to election tampering in Georgia to the January 6 attack, that could fatally entangle him?

Is this a 'bombshell'? Are the walls closing in (vid) on Trump? Is this the long awaited 'tipping point' that marks the 'beginning of the end' for Trump?

Of course not.

All attempts to get Trump over fake Russiagate claims or other issues have failed. Some 'classified' documents probably found in the possession of the person who, as president, had the power to declassify them will not change anything.

The raid and the accusations will only increase Trump's and his followers determination to win:

The short-term upside for Trump, in any case, is clear. He is now once more the center of political attention at a moment when President Joe Biden was scoring a bunch of victories this past week. Trump, a master showman, will milk the FBI search for all the publicity he can squeeze from it.

The raid was probably the best Trump could have hoped for:

Mr. Trump made clear in his statement that he sees potential political value in the search, something some of his advisers echoed, depending on what any investigation produces.

His political team began sending fund-raising solicitations about the search late on Monday evening.

Even those conservatives who do not like Trump will see the raid as an illegitimate attempt by democrats to prevent another Trump run for the presidency. It is something many will opposed on principal independent of who is targeted.

The White House claims to not have been noticed of the raid. Many people will doubt that.

If Attorney General Merrick B. Garland did not inform the White House he should be fired for political sabotage of the Democrats' campaign. Launching highly political action without informing the boss is a no-no for the Justice Department.

If the White House was informed its hatred for Trump must have pushed it into a very stupid mistake. Allowing the raid at this point of time was the worst thing that could happen to the Democrats.

Added:

There is also this conspirish issue:

U.S. Ministry of Truth @USMiniTru - 12:57 UTC · Aug 9, 2022

It's perfectly unsuspicious that the lawyer who defended Jeffrey Epstein is the judge who signed the sealed warrant for the FBI raid on Trump's home.


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Voting doesn’t matter anymore. 81 million votes.

Better to withhold one’s consent and not vote.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 9 2022 14:01 utc | 1

No doubt about it; Biden, Garland and Wray jumped the shark bigtime with this bonehead raid. Blowback will be incoming due to this move for many years to come. Add Pelosi's
recent China fiasco...... democrats are on a roll💩👍

Posted by: morongobill | Aug 9 2022 14:06 utc | 2

This may sound like the best thing that ever happened to Trump - unless you realize that the FBI is completely out of control. Just the tip of the iceberg - and probably suicidal for the FBI, come November and the midterms.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 9 2022 14:06 utc | 3

I think this dramatic event coupled with 87,000 new IRS agents in that Climate Change bill a couple of days earlier mark a decided shift in US politics which is about to get far more ugly.

There seems to be a frog-boiling exercise in play with ordinary middle-of-the-road Americans, most of whom are Trump voters or independents, being the frogs. By the time they realize it might be too late to save their republic and themselves with it it will be too late - indeed I believe this has already been the case for decades since the public murder of JFK.

In any case, it feels like we are getting very close to the boil now and one side is pushing for confrontation and eventual break-down. Possibly things will get so inflamed between now and November that they can suspend the mid-terms because Emergency.

Winter is coming...

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 9 2022 14:20 utc | 4

FBI director Christopher Wray, appointed by Trump.

Consequences of this depend on what they find; but his holding of classified information is the very offense for which he cried "Lock Her Up!" But logical consistency is rare in politics. It was wrong when W did it, wrong when Hillary did it, wrong when Obama did it, wrong when Trump did it. This argument is why we can't prosecute US presidents as war criminals; I think they all should be on the docket, let's search all of them.

Posted by: scottindallas | Aug 9 2022 14:22 utc | 5

Is this suppose to turn Trump into a decent human being or just not as bad as the alternative? It certainly shows that some continue to believe that we live in other than a TOP/BOTTOM world.

GO LEFT! GO RIGHT! STAND UP, SIT DOWN, FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

How low can America and its associated dog kennels sink? Stay tuned.

Follow the shadows on Plato's cave wall. The kabuki will set you free

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 9 2022 14:23 utc | 6

It seems to me that everything the collective West wishes on Russia is happening in reverse. Both economic and social upheaveals that the West predicted would happen in Russia are actually happening in the West. And it looks as if the trend is just beginning. Both the EU and the US are facing economic and social calamities, the type they haven't seen for a long time. The USA in particular has never been so politically divided. Well, what goes round comes round. The evils that the West has been inflicting on people all around the world are coming back home to them.

Posted by: Steve | Aug 9 2022 14:24 utc | 7

I'm guessing that 'ol Mitch McConnell is clapping his hands raw with glee..

Whocouldanoood.

Posted by: polecat | Aug 9 2022 14:25 utc | 8

This is a hail Mary pass to keep him from running. If a document is found they can run a try at prosecuting him. If convicted he would be disqualified. This is standard operating procedures towards enemies of the state and a dangerous enemy of DNC policies and appointees. We have never seen it rise to this level in this country. It is usually reserved for smaller fish.

I think they know the polling and their recent pathetic legislation is not going to change anything no matter how much they try. Trumps rallies are going to be huge going forward. He will fill stadiums. Biden will take another run sitting in the basement with 25 people showing up. All paid union staff in the area. He cant even put on his jacket. The video of him yesterday was pathetic.

I see something changing in this country at the base. 25 states are permissible open carry of firearms without a permit. I see the usual carried base of Democrats eroding. Immigrants and African Americans turning to Trump in larger numbers. This Democrat push of a transgender in every classroom, A Pelosi quote, and giving gender transition drugs to children, an assistant secretary of health quote, has gone too far for many, many people.

Of course, it is the economy stupid, as they say as well.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 9 2022 14:26 utc | 9

Using the organs of state against your political rivals is the hallmark of a banana republic.

Posted by: Down South | Aug 9 2022 14:36 utc | 10

Looks like the Chinese are on a roll in dumping US "Toiletries"! Another $24 Billion was dumped in May. At this rate of $20 Billion per month, it will only take 4 years to dump the whole of this toxic shit! But will there be peace in the Taiwan Strait for the next 49 months?!?

https://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt

Posted by: Sam Smith | Aug 9 2022 14:37 utc | 11

Absolute own goal by Biden. One, there's no way that the WH didn't sign off on this. Nobody at DoJ or the FBI would dare set this sort of precedent without approval from the WH and if they did you can kiss the idea of the US republic goodbye. What this does do is further erode the US political process. We could already expect that if/when the GOP takes the House or Senate in November that politically motivated impeachment proceedings of Biden would happen just like the pointless and politically motivated impeachment(s) of trump. (Note: I'm not a fan of Trump, he's an idiot and a grifter but I'm no fan of Biden and the Dems either who are mostly idiots and grifters that hide it slightly better than Trump.) Now we can add FBI raids on political opponents. We already tried to color revolution ourselves on Jan 6. The US is nothing but a "third world" country dressed up in a stolen, expensive suit.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 9 2022 14:37 utc | 12

"It's not who votes that counts; it's who counts the votes that counts"

Posted by: A.Pols | Aug 9 2022 14:39 utc | 13

Anyone caught up in American Politics is a fool. Dems and GOP are murdering liars whose reason for living is murdering, lies and sucking out every penny of corrupt greed for their inbred children and donors.

Posted by: gottlieb | Aug 9 2022 14:44 utc | 14

One theory is that the alleged classified information is merely an excuse to get into his records and look for 1/6-related materials.

Posted by: Oscar Peterson | Aug 9 2022 14:55 utc | 15

One thing they haven't learned like they didn't learn vis-a-vis their power against Russia and China; it's not Trump who needs 'norms', it's them. The 'norms' are the only thing pacifying the general population or large segments of it.

You can't just strip the 'norms' off Trump and think it has no consequence for you. This is what happened after the 2016 election, they pretended and allowed a receptive audience to believe that Trump's election wasn't legitimate, not really, the Russians hacked it etc. Well when you do a 4 year long coup you'll make the people who voted for Trump or at least not Hilary to feel the election isn't legitimate as was seen when Biden won.

And if nobody feels democracy is legitimate anymore... It might make the chances of somebody assassinating Trump higher but he's not really their problem so much as the policies he openly advocated for and in some instances succeeded in implementing. But it also means the establishment and elite have an increasing target on their backs.

In China the regime has legitimacy not from 'norms' but from what it does for the Chinese people (Read: Han Chinese not the general pop) and their collective interests. It means that when sufficient numbers of the Chinese people don't like what they're doing they actually listen.

In Western late stage democracies the government has legitimacy not through what it does or whose interests its serves (The collective interests of the peoples of Western countries aren't even something we can agree upon or indeed who the people are, get too close to ideals of national interest and be declared a xenophobic heretic, the country doesn't belong to anyone bigot!) but simply because it won an election. People have been sadly groomed through representative democracy (Rather than something like a referendum-based democracy) to feel "Well I didn't vote for them but the country did" and so are paralysed to act to overthrow it or even agree upon what needs changing.

Such governments will inevitably be parasitised by small cohesive special interests, run too high a tolerance for foreigners leading to a breakdown in national identity and cohesion and the national good will be destroyed. Such societies will have no ability to challenge over the long term societies like Russia (Though Russia's position is precarious, it could easily slip back into something like what it was like pre-Putin) or China.

Posted by: Altai | Aug 9 2022 14:59 utc | 16

I'm sure they'll find the documents - whether they were there or not.
They had better find something or this was an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Posted by: ian | Aug 9 2022 15:09 utc | 17

Dems just reelected Trump. The only way to keep him out now is to whack him.

But they will probably start a nuclear war before that, so it really doesn't matter.

Posted by: Black Cloud | Aug 9 2022 15:09 utc | 18

In 2016, the Deep State achieved a coup of sorts when the members, with the help of the DNC, launched Russiagate. They did so not because they hated Trump, but because he dared to suggest detente or entente with Russia, the target of the globalist, liberal hegemony of the unipolar masters. Apparently, they are not done with Trump. Remember that the Deep State involves all levels of government, the security apparatus, and some elements of the corporate world. From time to time there are internal conflicts, and I think that the current attempt at legal action against Trump represents one faction prevailing in this conflict. I doubt very much that Biden himself had any notion, but likely Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan and others did. They are cunning planners, but not very smart and usually fail to appreciate long-term consequences, such as now happens with Russia in the Ukraine.

Posted by: Tedder | Aug 9 2022 15:18 utc | 19

Would have thought the Trump/Reps voter base was maxed out in the last election. They too had a very large increase in comparison to the first Trump election, didn't they? So I don't quite see how this thing will translate into the Reps getting more votes than the Dems. Even if everyone who voted Rep last time will do it again this time, I wonder if this will really be enough to secure the presidency. The Dems 'just' need to secure enough electors from the states they control, then they can ignore the popular vote not in their favor.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 9 2022 15:22 utc | 20

The US is in a state of civil war, think John Brown. The rest of the world can do what it likes.

Posted by: Xiaoding | Aug 9 2022 15:28 utc | 21

This website is very bias against the democrats, Mr Trump is crook and con man who want to be president for ever like banana republics , no one is above the law in the US of America , Trump people are racists, gullible and uneducated, red neck and SOB .
He and his peoples around him should be prosecuted and sent to jail like every one else who violated the law not just the African Americans and the poor minorities.
Comment about voting , in the USA the votes are one dollar one vote , not one person one vote , the worst system in the world , basically telling us some people do not count like others , and this will not change , so the US need a massive civil war to change some laws in this country .

Posted by: Bobby | Aug 9 2022 15:28 utc | 22

According to the Daily Mail, Trump’s 350 words about the raid is a “lengthy statement”. Sad.

Posted by: Rucio | Aug 9 2022 15:30 utc | 23

I think I'm going to stop posting here.

If a billionaire and former president of the USA receives this kind of harassment, then for the rest of us it's better to keep a low profile. As they say in Turkish: may it pass quickly.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 9 2022 15:34 utc | 24

Note that while the FBI and a zionist Dem judge agreed to investigate Trump, because he refused to start wars in the Mideast for Israel, they refused to investigate or even reply to my numerous reports and full packages of well organized evidence and memoranda of law in a Florida case involving mostly other Republicans, who stole $120 million in conservation funds as state politicians. That info was sent to all local, HQ, and IG offices of those agencies three times during both the Trump and Biden administrations. That case is near Mar-a-lago but in SW Florida.

I had guessed that employees of FBI, HSI, IRS, and DOJ were simply afraid of prosecuting politicians of either party, as both parties would eventually be in power and would ruin their careers. But both Dem and Rep judges kept refusing to request investigation or even seal the case, and they are far less vulnerable, so likely they are all protecting political racketeering by both parties to destroy democracy. Apparently I should have linked Trump to the case somehow.

Posted by: Sam F | Aug 9 2022 15:41 utc | 25

An interesting sidebar on the judge who approved the warrant...Epstein, a gift that keeps giving...
In 2011, Reinhart was named in the Crime Victims’ Rights Act lawsuit, which accused him of violating Justice Department policies by switching sides, implying that he leveraged inside information about Epstein’s investigation to curry favor with Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Little Black Book of Princes’, Law Professors and Now this Prosecutor turned Judge is Just Horrifying

Bobby @ 22
no one is above the law in the US of America
What planet did you just fly in from?

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 9 2022 15:43 utc | 26

Distraction, distraction, distraction. Who really thinks they could pull off another Russiagate? With foreign affairs in the ditch and healthcare reaching new lows, what do the Dems have to lose by mounting their own little insurrection guided by b-league operators? There's nothing left. Read Bobby Kennedy's new appeal to his party to see how hopeless it's become. The one thing they got right is the famine arriving just in time for winter coinciding with freezing grannies to death in Germany. One more leg to kick out from under the table.

Posted by: Stumpy | Aug 9 2022 15:50 utc | 27

Yet another element that feels like we are living in a curious political mirror world where the left/right has changed places and now we have a strange quasi-progressive/left soft fascism in the ascendency, backed by a western woke/conscious capitalism that seems on the surface at least to have cut political ties with the conservative/right.

This FBI raid which in the light of their alleged agent provocateur/organising role in the events of January 6th, the undercover infiltration of 'right' groups like the Proud Boys and assorted nationalist/ultra-nationalist/neo-nazi groups, the running of interference from Russiagate to Hunter Biden's laptop & now this raid on Trump's mansion, all this can be said to represent a COINTELPRO redux where the populist right are the target & the progressive/left now wear the G-Man, sorry G-Trans-Woman-Man badge.

The irony of course is while it was the left/progressive milieu who loudly opposed and exposed the FBI COINTELPRO crimes of the 60s/70s, they have remained largely silent over the politicisation of the FBI in a leftward/progressive drift over the last few years.

I have no love for Trump & as I'm from the UK, limited skin in the game as you guys probably never actually say, but the raid on Trump is an outbreak of the fascist mind, however you dress it up.

Posted by: Fake Believe | Aug 9 2022 15:57 utc | 28

I have one question: does no one in the US believe that the FBI might be working on behalf of their country’s welfare? (I don’t live there, so maybe it’s naive to even ask.)

In the Saker’s recent interview with Michael Hudson, he raised the subject of Florida politics:

On pages 23-24

“I’ve noticed in history, but also in the case of Russia during the 90’s was very typical, when the central power, and it was very much the case in the Ukraine, before the war started it was already very observable, when the central government cannot provide the local leaders with money, protection, or whatever, it can’t crack down on them either any more. The locals sort of create their local fiefdoms which remain part, say the typical Ukrainian oligarchs all have their geographical fiefdom. Formally, it was still a united country, but in reality you could see that it was fun locally. And I’m thinking of sitting here in Florida, the governor here has taken some very strong positions, and I don’t think he …. like people in Florida, first of all most people hate the Federal Government, that’s all over the country, so for starters. Secondly local governors can be very popular, and at that point, I mean I would say a DeSantis has no need for the Feds, none. He has everything he has here…,”

From the full transcript with Michael Hudson

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 9 2022 15:58 utc | 29

no one is above the law in the US of America , Trump people are racists, gullible and uneducated, red neck and SOB .

Ignorance Expounded !

The phrase "Be ye ever so high, the law is above you". was stated by Lord Chief Justice Coke in England in 1613

He also set as a premiss: " "For a man's house is his castle, et domus sua cuique est tutissimum refugium"


Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 9 2022 15:59 utc | 30

winter coinciding with freezing grannies to death in Germany

Peculiar sentiment. It is far more likely European industry will shut down - or simply not re-open after August holiday closures - and Europe will pivot away from USA.........

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 9 2022 16:01 utc | 31

Trump was always promising [threatening?] to release the jfk documents. Did he steal some of those? And they needed to be recovered at all costs [inwhich case elections are not so important]

Posted by: Platero | Aug 9 2022 16:03 utc | 32

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 9 2022 15:58 utc | 29

FBI is and always has been domestic secret police. Fervent enemies of native resistance here, too. Anything you say can and will be used against you.

"Never listen to your FBI plant."

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 9 2022 16:04 utc | 33

From a recent Federalist piece who I believe are generally pro-Trump albeit try to stay an intellectual zone or two above pure partisan advocacy.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/09/the-fbi-raided-trumps-home-because-hes-a-threat-to-rule-by-unelected-security-agencies/

"Suppose the current administration was truly only concerned about the reclamation of classified documents, as some have suggested — why couldn’t someone simply make a phone call and arrange for a delegation of bureaucrats to go and get them? And considering that this is far from the first time the intelligence apparatus has tried to shanghai Trump and his associates, it becomes pretty obvious that this raid was a show of force.

Indeed, the Biden administration carried out a hit on the ruling party’s most prominent political enemy. According to Trump, the raid was “unannounced.” He decried it as evidence of the “weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don’t want me to run for President in 2024.”

Anton posits that the reason “the people who really run the United States” fanatically oppose Trump has less to do with the former president and more to do with “who his followers are.” He suggests that Trump’s followers are so aggressively denied representation because they are out of step with the ideological consensus of the managerial elite who pull the strings and turn the gears of the federal government.

He writes, “Complaints about the nature of Trump are just proxies for objections to the nature of his base. It doesn’t help stabilize our already twitchy situation that those who bleat the loudest about democracy are also audibly and visibly determined to deny a real choice to half the country.”

In the current era, Trump has been the only prominent individual on the national stage to resist the neo-liberal consensus by prioritizing and empowering the American people and the American nation."

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Personally I go back and forth between suspecting the entire US political domain is kabuki 'full of sound and fury signifying nothing' and wondering if maybe the endless attacks on Trump are real because he really is perceived as a threat. If that is the case, then the above extract is a correct reading: Trump isn't about Trump (just like Ukraine is about Ukraine and Taiwan isn't about Taiwan) but really about the heartland centrist voters who want the bloated federal USG and MIC etc. taken down a peg or two (if not outright dismantled in many cases like with the FBI and Federal Reserve) and whose wishes are being thwarted because the entrenched system has made it almost impossible for any interlopers (like the mainstream majority of the voting public) to reform.

Meanwhile it seems that this move is welcoming further inflammation in the body politic. Perhaps they want riots by the right similar to the BLM (paid-for) riots in the summer of 2020 so they are doing whatever they can to radicalize the law-abiding so-called 'right' (which are basically common sense middle). If they start rioting etc. (no doubt instigated by G-men ignited 'militia' groups as with Jan 6th false flag insurrection) there will be a massive crack-down on any who participate causing further division and depression in the country.

Because when all is said and done the ones who currently hold most (but not all) levers of power seem determined to engineer a collapse into dysfunction; this sort of thing furthers that agenda of demoralizing the citizenry on all sides by dragging the entire nation down into endless petty and ugly slugfests with no honorable path forward except that of individuals standing up to intimidating powers like the FBI, DOJ, mainstream media and so forth.

Because of course part of what is going on with criminally investigating Bannon, Navarro and now Big Boss Trump is intimidation of their base which was there before Trump entered the picture as a Republican candidate and which will be there after he exits - unless 'they' have managed to nix the republic and replace it with something Built Back Better.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 9 2022 16:04 utc | 34

Bemildred @ 33

Ah I see.Thanks for the info. Living in another country, it seems to me it’s the ClA who gets all the attention for that kind of activity. I didn’t know what role the FBI plays in everything, on the domestic US front.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 9 2022 16:10 utc | 35

The Outlaw US Empire further destabilizes itself. Yesterday, I linked to the Gallup Poll's recent survey of public trust in institutions, with the federal government at the bottom: Congress, 7%; the presidency, 23%. There's no attempt to explain the difference as IMO the numbers ought to be reversed. Another indicator is confidence in TV news is just 11%. Gallup reported overall confidence reached a new low of 27%. Take the military and small business out of the equation, and it would be in the teens. (IMO the military deserves no more trust than presidency which commands it.)

My point is no legislation is going to increase trust in a political system that's rotten to its core, when the two supposedly top contenders for POTUS are a proven grifter who doesn't know what he's doing and the other is a serial criminal who also doesn't know what he's doing. My wife asked this morning, Who would want to lead such a rotten system? There's zero moral compass in Washington, not that there was much there to begin with. The Feds "plan" to deal with inflation is to drastically increase unemployment, which will only add more pain onto what already exists, while the inflation rate is the direct result of Fed policy to vastly increase the 1%'s wealth and supply price inflation caused by Trump and Biden policies.

Then there's the broken election system. Odd that Gallup doesn't measure public confidence in that institution, but I'd guess it would score the national average of 27%. And given that, how can any government claim legitimacy? I can't find the link, but I recently saw a poll where over 50% said they don't recognize the USA anymore, meaning its values and place in the world. Disregarding the notion that the Outlaw US Empire was ever a force for Good in the world, that perception by so many tells me mass anomie is occurring, which is a very negative indicator. And that brings us to the question many US-based barflies have been asking--Can an equitable solution be found to our many dilemmas within the current system? And the answer many including myself have reached is no, the system must be altered rather drastically, which means the existing power base must be overthrown so change can be made. Until that happens, the rotten system will continue to produce rotten results that will hopefully be contained within the Empire's borders as it's already damaged the world enough.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 16:10 utc | 36

@Sam F | Aug 9 2022 15:41 utc | 25

Democracy? What democracy? That’s just another fiction like “civilizing” ie exterminating the American indigenous.

Given the Americans ruling classes ability to rig elections going all the way back to McKinley, we’ve been looking at a shell game for a very long time.

The sooner we understand this, the sooner we can try to fix it.

Posted by: Michael.j | Aug 9 2022 16:17 utc | 37

Bemildred @ 33

Ah I see.Thanks for the info. Living in another country, it seems to me it’s the ClA who gets all the attention for that kind of activity. I didn’t know what role the FBI plays in everything, on the domestic US front.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 9 2022 16:10 utc | 35

I don't think any of the "law enforcement" branches really respect their boundaries any more, but in theory they divide responsibilities up between foreign and domestic. FBI from the beginning was about domestic surveillance of both citizens with unwanted ideas (commies, germans, union organizers) and politicians with independent ideas. This Trump raid is right up their alley, the only thing of note is they are going after a rich man with popular support. I have been expecting things to get nasty as neither side can afford to lose.

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 9 2022 16:22 utc | 38

The assumption in this analysis is that there will be legitimate elections. What the raid tells me is: there won’t be.

If they’ll do this in your face, it means they have no intention of ever transferring power and being on the receiving end. This should be obvious with 30 seconds of thought.

The 2022 mid terms don’t have to be completely falsified. Just in districts that don’t have collaborators running as the “opposition.” Followed by lectures from the collaborators that anyone outside their ranks can’t win elections.

The 2024 Presidential Election is obviously going to be fake, most of the cheats used in 2020 are still viable.

The US Federal political system is now confirmed as unfixable. It has to be neutered at the state and international levels.

Posted by: Joe | Aug 9 2022 16:23 utc | 39

Oscar Peterson @15: "One theory is that the alleged classified information is merely an excuse to get into his records and look for 1/6-related materials."

I don't understand why they would feel they need any "1/6 materials". The whole 1/6 kangaroo court is just farce and theater anyway and the inquisitors know that, so the raid cannot be any more than a fishing expedition for some other potential kompromat.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2022 16:26 utc | 40

The 2020 election was clearly stolen from Trump, but Trump is not the solution to the US problems of today. The foreign policies remain the same regardless. This fact may have inspired TPTB to reinstate the Trump that could not or would not 'drain the swamp'? Puppet change?

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2022 16:31 utc | 41

Bruised Northerner @29--

It may seem like US state governors have all they need, but much of what supports them and their citizens comes from the federal government, especially Florida. Let's hypothesize Florida secedes, all those retirees will cease getting social security and medicare; the state's highway system being mostly interstate will stop being funded. Its ports will cease being maintained. The Hurricane Center would migrate. Its airports would no longer have air traffic controllers. And the list goes on and on. About 18 months ago, I wrote an article on the great difficulty with secession because of all the above. Few understand that the Union is a union, and that at the base of the Union's problems is those charged with its governace have never really followed the rationale for the Union as stated in its secondary founding document, the 1787 Constitution's Preamble, where the federal government's charged with making a more perfect union for all, not just the top 10%. Clearly, the further away from local control of government the easier it is to usurp that government, which is what's happened since the USA's inception.

Why are Russia, China, Iran, and so many other nations different when it comes to governance? The easiest answer is they have morals and values that implore them to actually follow the path to making a more perfect union for all their citizens. The criminals running the Outlaw US Empire are madder than wet hens because those other nations aren't as morally corrupted and thus refuse to join the immoral cabal, while working hard to build a morally/legally solid world order benefitting all.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 16:33 utc | 42

Trump was always promising [threatening?] to release the jfk documents. Did he steal some of those? And they needed to be recovered at all costs [inwhich case elections are not so important]

Posted by: Platero | Aug 9 2022 16:03 utc | 32

A decent speculation. Also he might have kept documentary evidence from originally classified sources about something else like Epstein's collaboration with FBI, for example (which might explain why the latter's lawyer was the Florida District Court Judge they went to for the warrant to break into an ex-President's domicile even though he was negotiating via lawyer with the Archive Dept in a normal fashion).

In any case, quite possible that the raid was in order to seize incriminating evidence Trump was holding (maybe as GOJF card).

Apparently the safe they blew was empty! But that means they may have to raid other places to find those documents if this theory is correct.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 9 2022 16:36 utc | 43

The 2020 election was clearly stolen from Trump, but Trump is not the solution to the US problems of today. The foreign policies remain the same regardless. This fact may have inspired TPTB to reinstate the Trump that could not or would not 'drain the swamp'? Puppet change?

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2022 16:31 utc | 41

The theory I find most agreeable at the moment is that the Dems prefer Trump as an opponent to the alternatives. You will remember that Clinton thought Trump was the perfect opponent, hence she needed not do much. She still wants to set the record straight. DeSantis would be a likely Trump alternative, and he is no answer either, but he is a lot less well known, and politically smart.

Still three months until the election, we may never get to an election in 2024.

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 9 2022 16:41 utc | 44

this is all kabuki and every hair of this dog is being wagged.
Trump, the world's greatest distraction swings back onto the scene on the eve of incriminating bioweapon information release/discoveries of massive arms/pharma corruption/ and the list goes on... how convenient.
As if the predictors who can predict how many turds you shit in a day could not figure out this would push everyone to a (conservative) majority government so the real fucking can begin.

Withdraw your support for the farce and do not participate in their illegitimate voting system.
it is time to oppose
those uopn the throne
and take away their power because they wish to own
the souls of those who meekly stand divided and alone

Posted by: ld | Aug 9 2022 16:45 utc | 45

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 16:10 utc | 36

Thanks Karl. Your post reminded me of a Paul Simon song American Tune, which I think sums up the mood of many in the US.
Here’s a link to a touching version by Kurt Elling. American Tune
Lyrics here

...”For we’ve lived so well so long”... “You cannot be forever blessed”...

The hope for humanity lies on the Eurasian continent now.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 9 2022 16:47 utc | 46

Bemildred #33 That's why they're called "the fibbies".
Politicians should serve two terms, one in office and one in prison. There's no fixing the US, as I've said before.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 9 2022 16:51 utc | 47

Scotch Bingeington @20: "Would have thought the Trump/Reps voter base was maxed out in the last election. They too had a very large increase in comparison to the first Trump election, didn't they?"

Yes, Trump's base increased, but that was despite the best efforts of the CIA/Deep State to fraud the votes towards their chosen candidate like they do so often in the empire's vassal states (think Mexican elections and the empire's efforts to keep AMLO out of office). Basically, in the 2020 elections the vote totals were beyond maxed out because the only way to save Biden was digital ballot box stuffing. Fortunately for the CIA it is easier to manufacture digital votes than paper ballots.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2022 17:00 utc | 48

Trumps rallies are going to be huge going forward. He will fill stadiums.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 9 2022 14:26 utc | 9

He was doing that most of the time already. Thus stunt will just mean turning even more people away from a sellout.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Aug 9 2022 17:02 utc | 49

Right wing PJ Media agrees with b:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/08/09/how-the-biden-admins-raid-on-trumps-home-will-backfire-n1619605

"According to polling from the Trafalgar Group, nearly 80% of American voters say that there are currently two tiers of justice in the American justice system, and nearly 60% believe that federal bureaucracies in Washington D.C., like the EPA, CDC, and IRS, have grown too large and only serve their own political interests.

“A majority of voters now fundamentally believe that the very federal government which exists to serve and protect citizens is no longer on their side. They see the government as too large, too invasive, and as an obstacle to their living the American dream,” Mark Meckler, former CEO of Parler and President of Convention of States Action, said. “The only way to fix this seemingly-impossible problem is an Article V Convention of States, which polling also shows is supported by a huge majority of Americans. Working together, a Convention of States will empower states to reign in the federal government, but the brakes on its growth, and end ‘permanent Washington’.”

Without a doubt, an FBI raid on the home of a former president, under the pretext of searching for allegedly classified documents that had actually already been declassified, approved by an Obama-donor judge with ties to Jeffrey Epstein, will most certainly reinforce these negative attitudes about our justice system and the bureaucracy. It seems likely that Donald Trump will be seen as the ideal candidate to reign in the out-of-control federal government, having been the target of it multiple times.

In other words, the raid that leftists in the federal government hoped would sideline Trump in 2024 may very well propel him back into office."

It all makes sense but assumes that the republic remains in more or less the same configuration. If this sort of action is a sign of our reaching a boiling/tipping point soon, then all bets are off. The entire two-party system and representative republic may be about to get scrapped.

This will provide an opening for the sort of return to decency that karlov1 hopes for but more likely it will presage a totalitarian techno-fascist takeover. One way or t'other we'll soon be finding out, I reckon. The current republic probably only has months or years left, not years or decades.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 9 2022 17:05 utc | 50

Passerby @24: "If a billionaire and former president of the USA receives this kind of harassment, then for the rest of us it's better to keep a low profile. As they say in Turkish: may it pass quickly."

Fortunately it is very easy to keep a lower profile than Trump. Furthermore, the Establishment is so busy trying to put out the bigger fires burning their house down that they may overlook us small embers.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2022 17:05 utc | 51

I have one question: does no one in the US believe that the FBI might be working on behalf of their country’s welfare? (I don’t live there, so maybe it’s naive to even ask.)

There are a lot of brain dead sheep in America who will believe whatever the Democrats spout off about.

They think Trump is a crook and thus will approve of the Gestapo's actions.

That's why there's no peaceful solution to the political divide.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Aug 9 2022 17:09 utc | 52

Would have thought the Trump/Reps voter base was maxed out in the last election. They too had a very large increase in comparison to the first Trump election, didn't they? So I don't quite see how this thing will translate into the Reps getting more votes than the Dems. Even if everyone who voted Rep last time will do it again this time, I wonder if this will really be enough to secure the presidency. The Dems 'just' need to secure enough electors from the states they control, then they can ignore the popular vote not in their favor.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 9 2022 15:22 utc | 20

It amazes me that so many cannot connect the dots on the 2020 election and the massive evidence of voter fraud.

There is only one rational conclusion, both teams cheated and the Democrats were simply the better cheaters, this time. Consider:
1. The unprecedented % increase in total votes cast, also for both candidates during a pandemic and with the most uninspiring candidate/campaign ever.
2. Ample evidence of mail in ballot fraud (see the 2000 Mules Documentary)
3. Ample evidence of manufactured ballots, and unsecured ballot boxes
4. Many 2016 Trump supporters sat this one out, since he did not deliver on promises made, except to Adelson/Israel.

There was no serious attempt to get to the bottom of this by the State AGs or by Congress. Why? Because they are all in it together, exposure means mutually assured destruction. That means the end of many lifelong DC grift/graft careers.

The Uni-party rules and grift/graft is what maintains cohesion, particularly on spending bills.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 9 2022 17:10 utc | 53

Trump will never ever be in the WH again other than as visitor, just get over it! There is no better chance to get elected to the presidential office than being a sitting president - and he lost that by a good margin against a mentally impaired opponent. Trump would be the absolutely worst candidate the GOP could put on the ticket, it would unite the Dems like another 9/11.

But than again, imagine a re-match with Hillary...........!? naahhh, not even the US is that downtrodden!

Posted by: Peter Camenzind | Aug 9 2022 17:19 utc | 54

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 16:33 utc | 42

and one post before that.

You touch upon a subject that I believe has been discussed in russian academia already. Concerning the internal contradictions and tensions in US (and Western) society that they are unable to solve 10-20 years going now. It was predicted that the “union” will decompose due to these pressures.

The problem revolves around the inability of modern wealthy societies in the West to effectively address cultural and economic inequality, drug abuse and recently mass surveillance issues. These are out of control in the US while EU fares better but barely. In my view the root lies in the disappointment of their ideologies and resulting anemic scholarship of western social scientists (if you can call them that) developed through the decades leading up to now.

After Trump they sought the solution with “one last push” towards the political direction solely based on human rights victimhood, placing progressive extremists everywhere in an attempt to dominate the opposition and eliminate it completely. We are seeing one aspect of this in the Trump raid. But it is visible everywhere and manifests as incompetence but is rooted in progressive extremism that suspends physical reality and replaces it with its own.

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 9 2022 17:26 utc | 55

karlof1 @ 42

Thanks for the details, I’m not sure what the Saker was thinking with respect to those issues when he said that DeSantis has no need for the Feds. However - moving away from domestic USA to the rest of the globe — exactly none of those issues stops the Washington Consensus from carving up any country anywhere. So why should it stop anyone on your own property?

It is extraordinary to me that citizens of the US experience themselves as treated equal to Native Americans. The whole premise of these nations (I’ll add Canada in there) is that the Indigenous are disqualified from existing. So every government branch suppresses Native rights, that’s them protecting their country, right? At least as it was initially conceived. The cooperation between Indigenous peoples and the militaries is because, even occupied/settled, we share a need for some law and order around here. Some protection - from re-conquest, deeper occupation, etc. Is there no force for that in the USA? … I will say that I’ve been impressed many times with the Fish and Wildlife department in the northern states anyway.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 9 2022 17:27 utc | 56

I agree with b's headline, but not much of the content.

The US Republican Party is deeply split over Trump. The "real" GOP is the Big Donors and the party machinery (Think Tanks, Media outlets, State Parties, etc) they built across the last several decades; Liz Cheney was born into this faction. The old (1980-2010) GOP used their propaganda outlets (FOX, Limbaugh, etc), to create a solid base of rural & working-class voters by training them to *hate* Democrats; these are Culture War voters who never really supported the GOP's actual agenda (Always More Tax Cuts for the Rich). The GOP always had to tread a fine line with these voters, using dog-whistling to keep them on board without scaring Soccer Moms. Trump - never really a Republican - came along & gave them what they really wanted: affirmation ("You're great"!), entertainment, and [the illusion of] Power.

The Real (old, Big Money) GOP watched in horror as Trump mauled all their candidates in the 2016 Primaries, and again when he won the Presidency (they poured all their money into Senate & House races, giving very little to Trump's campaign). But when Trump won, they chose to "cooperate" with him - or, really, to use him to get what they really wanted (more Tax Cuts for the Rich, and a solid majority of Federalist Society hacks on the Supreme Court). They were careful not to overtly criticize or oppose Trump - for fear of alienating the Mob which he now controls - but they avoided implementing most of his policies (GOP has always encouraged immigration to keep wages low).

In 2020, they again put their money into Congressional campaigns, knowing that four more years of Trump would destroy the Party they had built. But by now, many Trumpists had been elected to positions of power in State Parties, and Trump has been "meddling" in primaries around the country. Many of the candidates that Trump has promoted have lost in the General Elections, and others have proved to be loose cannons, tarnishing the GOP's reputation as the Party of Grown-Ups.

The Big Money faction wants to get rid of Trump, but they can't say that out loud, for fear that Trump will take his Mob & start new Party, leaving the GOP with all the Money & none of the "kids" (a messy divorce). Their best option for regaining control over Trump's Mob is to be able to blame Trump's [political] demise on Democrats.

Unfortunately, Democrats are cooperating nicely with this plan.

Posted by: elkern | Aug 9 2022 17:32 utc | 57

The White House claims to not have been noticed of the raid.

Ah, the 'Nancy Pelosi did it, and ran away' defence. It didn't work on Xi.

Posted by: ZX | Aug 9 2022 17:32 utc | 58

Scorpion @34

Trump absolutely is perceived as a threat by the Establishment/Deep State.

It is important to distinguish this perception of a threat from reality, though, and the reality certainly appears to be that Trump has no intentions of being a threat to entrenched power.

The key takeaway here is that the individuals who make up the Establishment/Deep State are operating within a shared delusion that does not intersect with reality.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2022 17:36 utc | 59

Something that may be or not be in tune with a return of the reps:
Niall Fergusson has, as of nov 8 2021, the intention of starting a normal university, in Austin, since the woke revolution and other forms of liberal intolerance has made it necessary to mend academia.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-11-08/niall-ferguson-america-s-woke-universities-need-to-be-replaced

The fact that an entusiast for the empire - british and angloamerican variants - like Fergusson indicates how the British seem to have the initiative. Like they so often have before.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 9 2022 17:46 utc | 60

it was in florida where epstein got a wrist slap because he was declared an "asset".

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/alexander-acosta-dodges-when-asked-if-jeffrey-epstein-was-an-intelligence-asset

funny how all we hear from shitlibs is that trump and anyone that ever shared an elevator with him are all "dangerous fascists" but then they pull third world banana republic shit like this. all while hunter biden snorts coke and paints garbage that sells for thousands. they really are oblivious to how much non-"elites" despise the alphabet agencies and their role of modern brown shirts.

whether the last election was "stolen" or not there is no way trump will run in 2024 and be "allowed" to win. the screeching retard lab monkeys sometimes called "the media" will go berserk and the stupid mccarthyism will be cranked to 11. while i do enjoy the misery of americans it will get old fast.

Posted by: the pair | Aug 9 2022 17:47 utc | 61

@60 Gruff

We have been debating the Trump Phenomenon since 2016.

It boils down to whether or not Trump is an unstoppable force of world history (a la Hegel) or if he is a charlatan playing one of the biggest acting roles ever in the history of geopolitics.

I take your comment to mean that Trump is an unwilling or ignorant agent of change, in that he has more or less stumbled into the role as being a threat to the establishment, and, being opportunistic to the extreme, has "donned" or picked up that mantle on the fly and is playing the media all along like a fiddle.

He is an enigma shrouded in a conundrum.

I can see merit to arguing both sides.

The mistrustful mind of mine might even say that this operation (Mar-a-Lago raid) is a deep state setup in conjunction with DJT to eliminate him from the President-candidacy. This would give him a face-saving option out while prolonging his image as martyr, simultaneously building his brand but deflating the populist surge. In would walk DeSantis who is zionist-captured and poses no threat to the real levers of power, while only the people high on the winds of Trump's ascendancy ever really stood a chance of upsetting the apple cart.

We the people had the power all along. Could Trump just be a empty vessal that we have entrusted ourselves into to be sealed and buried behind the shed?

If only the greenback could speed up its collapse.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 9 2022 17:52 utc | 62

The key takeaway here is that the individuals who make up the Establishment/Deep State are operating within a shared delusion that does not intersect with reality.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2022 17:36 utc | 60

Aha! So it IS kabuki but the people playing parts therein think it's real!

Strange how such delusion/illusion can create so much suffering, and sometimes even mass death, to ordinary folks when that pseudo-reality, based on pseudo-morality and pseudo-humanity etc., inevitably collapses, whether wittingly or not (because that too is yet more kabuki.

Have been saying for years even before Reality TV Billionaire Trump was elected that the US is a 'Reality TV Republic with Reality TV President and Reality TV Citizenry.' Seems fairly accurate...

That said, a real storm is coming...

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 9 2022 18:00 utc | 63

obviously they plan on cheating

Posted by: theyrecheaters | Aug 9 2022 18:11 utc | 64

The magistrate judge who signed the search warrant for Mar a Lago, Bruce Reinhart, worked until 2008 in the federal prosecutor's office in Florida that investigated Jeffrey Epstein. The office was headed at the time by Alexander Acosta, who signed the sweetheart deal with Epstein that let him off with a slap on the wrist. Reinhart left that office in January 2008 and went into private practice, where he apparently represented some people associated with Epstein.

Posted by: Lysias | Aug 9 2022 18:14 utc | 65

@ Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2022 17:00 utc | 49

The only state I'm aware of that does completely electronic voting is my state, Louisiana, which went overwhelmingly for Trump.

Biden legitimately won the election and it's amazing how much conservatives are still licking their wounds over this. The GOP's social and economic agendas are massively unpopular, especially when people are informed what it actually is, i.e. when the GOP can't benefit from being a purely negationist party and must articulate a positive vision of the world. Besides the declining appeal of religious reaction, people are even beginning to see through the GOP's neoliberal "free enterprise" bullshit again, although it's a slow process.

This is not to excuse the Democrats, but I think you forget that the last guy used the military and federal agencies as personal death squads, assassinating Soleimani (among others) and at least one US citizen who allegedly had shot a high profile Trump supporter and fascist street gang member in self-defense during the riots of 2020. Investigating a known to be corrupt ex-prez and holding even the highest elected officials to the same legal standard as the rest of us suggests that the majority of Americans who believe there is a "two-tiered justice system" (a term PJ Media quoted above almost assuredly does not know the meaning of) might find some relief that the criminal who last served as president is being held accountable under the new regime.

Posted by: fnord | Aug 9 2022 18:30 utc | 66

alek_a @56--

Thanks for your reply. Your comment on social scientists is precisely because all too many refuse to examine the reality of their subject because to do so affects their job security. Plus, they're products of professors like themselves, so they never learned how to investigate reality. Very few look into the conflict between words and deeds that reaches back to the initial colonization of North America as formulated by the 15th Century Papal Bulls that provided the ideological framework for exploiting the world so few even know of today because schooling is so poor. Then there's the Eurocentric focus at the expense of all else. Perhaps the biggest problem is that teachers cannot connect yesterday's events with today's realities to show conclusively that history matters a great deal. For example, those Papal Bulls were responsible in the plague of Racism that still rages on our planet when there's only one race--the Human Race--and went against the core teachings of Christianity by justifying slavery and genocide.

Vernadsky was of the opinion that the Mongol experience Russians were subjected to helped to insulate Russia from the grave faults committed by the West, amongst other lessons. But as I keep writing, Bastiat put it best in 1848:

"When plunder becomes a way of life, men create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."

And:

"When misguided public opinion honors what is despicable and despises what is honorable, punishes virtue and rewards vice, encourages what is harmful and discourages what is useful, applauds falsehood and smothers truth under indifference or insult, a nation turns its back on progress and can be restored only by the terrible lessons of catastrophe."

It's that latter lesson that's now being taught to the Collective West.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 18:32 utc | 67

@Norwegian #41

You said

The 2020 election was clearly stolen from Trump, but Trump is not the solution to the US problems of today. The foreign policies remain the same regardless. This fact may have inspired TPTB to reinstate the Trump that could not or would not 'drain the swamp'? Puppet change?

There is no part of this statement that is accurate.

1) What new wars did Trump start?
2) Who first proposed that the US should withdraw from Afghanistan? Trump
3) Who actually got pretty deep into a peace negotiation with North Korea? Trump

Yes, Trump withdrew from JCPOA - that was bad but then again, it is universally acknowledged that Trump made many mistakes in appointing and listening to neocon fuckwads in his Cabinet.

So while Trump may certainly not be the right man to "fix everything" it is completely wrong to say that he was the same as any other.

It is even MORE wrong to say that TPTB want to reinstate him. If anything has been made clear after Russiagate bullshit and Jan. 6 bullshit and how FBI raiding his house bullshit - it is that the Democrats (and the dinosaur Republicans, to be clear) clearly DO NOT want Trump to be President again.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 9 2022 18:32 utc | 68

Bruised Northerner @56--

Thanks for your reply. The best answer I can give to your question was provided by the first Bastiat citation @68 above.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 18:36 utc | 69

The Duran is hosting John Barnes right now, talking about this raid.

Barnes, to those who don't know him, is a lawyer to specializes in defending conservatives. He is the one who defended the MAGA hat kid, among many others.

I'm catching up, but Barnes has already said:

1) No ex-President has ever been prosecuted for any crime, much less one related to actions during/involving a Presidency, ever in the past.
2) One reason why the raid occurred yesterday is that DOJ has a policy that no major candidate should be indicted, 90 days before an election - and that yesterday was 91 days before the November election.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 9 2022 18:38 utc | 70

Sorry, above should be Robert Barnes

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 9 2022 18:38 utc | 71

@ c1ue | Aug 9 2022 18:32 utc | 69 who wrote
"
it is that the Democrats (and the dinosaur Republicans, to be clear) clearly DO NOT want Trump to be President again.
"

Your characterization of another power center in the West is as delusional as your investment in crypto...and Trump is going to lead the way with this new power center....grin/snark

Power, Profit and Pussy should be their new slogan

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 9 2022 18:42 utc | 72

I think that I am amongst superior intellect, when I visit the bar.
Then the word Trump is uttered, and I realize that information and idiocy can occupy the same space.
A legitimate US election.
Fake news.

Posted by: Southpaw | Aug 9 2022 18:45 utc | 73

@Posted by: Sam Smith | Aug 9 2022 14:37 utc | 11

Looks like the Chinese are on a roll in dumping US "Toiletries"! Another $24 Billion was dumped in May. At this rate of $20 Billion per month, it will only take 4 years to dump the whole of this toxic shit! But will there be peace in the Taiwan Strait for the next 49 months?!?

https://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt

Its interesting that the holdings are relatively stable, with a little bit of noise, into the end of last year. Then from February, when the West seized Russia's FX holdings, its US$20 billion reduction a month. If China sells too much too fast the US Treasury price will fall quickly both reducing the prices that China can get for the rest and as the UST is the global "riskless" interest rate raising interest rates globally - neither good for China. Better to take their time, also they will never go all the way down to zero given the amount of trade they still do in US$, plus capital movements.

Just as in other areas, China will practice the slow boiling of the Western Empire unless specifically provoked into greater action. The US response to Pelosi's visit to Taiwan, which was repeated statements of support for the One China policy does seem to show that China can remain patient. Its displays of displeasure, combined with the US already involved in a one front war, seem to have done the job for now.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 9 2022 18:51 utc | 74

... There was no serious attempt to get to the bottom of this by the State AGs or by Congress. Why? Because they are all in it together, exposure means mutually assured destruction. That means the end of many lifelong DC grift/graft careers.

The Uni-party rules and grift/graft is what maintains cohesion, particularly on spending bills.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 9 2022 17:10 utc | 54

Your closing point fits the whole US-lead system of government. Personally, I think the US (and everywhere in thrall to the US-corporate surveillance superstate) has long since crossed a kind of reformability event horizon. System insiders are now never without mutual assistance, it’s virtually impossible for an outsider to corner an insider of any consequence, only infighting can bring down a system insider. With precious few exceptions, they are no more productive than alcohol-damaged vagrants (no offence to actual vagrants), they can only thieve or use up.

Almost the entire “west” is suffocating to death on politico clowns and their sleazy, dirtball patrons.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 9 2022 19:05 utc | 75

@erkel

The donor base has changed as well. Or lets say the power base of the gop donors has shifted. At the time of george w. Big oil, wall street and big industries were ruling the country. Now these sectors are a side show to the gafa mafia, which is democrat through and through.

The old gop including its donors stands no chance against the democratic machine. Once upon a time us universities were sponsored by the gop big conservative industries which kept the loonatic left agenda under control because the universities had to keep an eye on their finances. Now this power has shifted to the left as well.
They have culture, education, big money, media and at the moment all the federal power on their side. The only counterweight at the moment on the side of the conservatives is the supreme court.

The gop needs trump. Not only because he is making up for a lot of disatvantages but because he is the person for which a lot of people change sides.

Its indeed culture. He talks like a proletarian, he acts like a proletarian, he gives the people the impression that they have a voice. And guess what: after while even black guys get the impression that trump gets beaten up by the democrats for things they themselves think and say and do.

On another level i think trump is a bulldozer. He drives the dems nuts. All the fire is focused on him. If the gop had any populist/ somehow different to the neoliberals people in a position to succeed him they could reach something. But without trump they cant reach anything.

I doubt it myself but if there is a (democratic) way out of this mess it leads through trump. If there was a 2nd trump turn, he would be caught in buerocratic war against the whole power structure. But after him a sane guy like rand paul or another less hated figuere would be able to bring back a lot of stuff just because everybody would be to exhausted to fight on.

There are a lot of questions attached to that. Will trump even get a chance? Do sane republicans exist? Is there really a difference between the gop and the dems? Etc.

But any other republican would just be crashed after 2024 while in office. Any democrat would mean the last death nail on the project called USA.

Posted by: Orgel | Aug 9 2022 19:08 utc | 76

@psychohistorian #73

How interesting - you (incorrect) characterize that my understanding of the 2 different factions in American politics is wrong, but somehow you think that the powers that be will magically give up their power in the interests of the people.

As for crypto: I did very, very VERY well. Among other things, I clearly recognized the bullshit under that entire system but also understood very well the factors enabling it. I called the end of the crypto boom in December: I said we had 6-8 weeks left before the hammer hit. That was a little early but didn't make any difference to me, personally.

So thank you, my views have been proven out in practice in crypto and in many, many other areas, repeatedly - I also called out the energy price spike long before Ukraine.

But by all means, continue dreaming of magical Asimovian superheroes fixing everything.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 9 2022 19:12 utc | 77

NemesisCalling @63: "It boils down to whether or not Trump is an unstoppable force of world history (a la Hegel) or if he is a charlatan playing one of the biggest acting roles ever in the history of geopolitics."

The two are not mutually exclusive, you know. Trump did not create the wave he is riding on, and that wave is the unstoppable force.

Few prominent figures in history were ever as great as the historical roles they filled.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2022 19:13 utc | 78

@ Bobby | 22

This website is very bias against the democrats, Mr Trump is crook and con man who want to be president for ever like banana republics , no one is above the law in the US of America , Trump people are racists, gullible and uneducated, red neck and SOB .
He and his peoples around him should be prosecuted and sent to jail like every one else who violated the law not just the African Americans and the poor minorities.

Yes, this website now tends to have a pro-Trump lean. Even though this site was once considered a progressive website for lefists, in the days of Billmon, when this site was very popular in places like Daily Kos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billmon

Since 2016 this blog has mutated to a neo Fascist lean instead, even adapting neo Fascist vocabulary like using "woke" and "copium" as pejoratives.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 9 2022 19:14 utc | 79

The raid won't change things much, as both sides have become so indoctrinated toward their side, they can only see things through their own lens.

The left will see the raid as justice being served and turn the page and focus on other things like the continued support for the corrupt Ukrainian leadership who is playing the US and the west like a fiddle.

While the right will see it as a travesty of justice, and an outrage which will further upset them.

The irony is both sides will point to Trump to justify why the feel as they do, while the media and other vested interests can profit from the drama. Kind of like big time wrestling in which you have the good guy and the bad guy to whip the crowd into a frenzy, while the promoters are raking in the bucks.

Posted by: 10 to 1 | Aug 9 2022 19:15 utc | 80

I forgot to add: I don't see how this raid will make conservatives who don't like Trump rally behind him, let alone anyone else change their minds in favor of him. Especially if the raid finds substantial incriminating evidence against him. The people waving flags last night were die-hards.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 9 2022 19:21 utc | 81

@ Roger | Aug 9 2022 18:51 utc | 75 who wrote
"
Its interesting that the holdings are relatively stable, with a little bit of noise, into the end of last year. Then from February, when the West seized Russia's FX holdings, its US$20 billion reduction a month. If China sells too much too fast the US Treasury price will fall quickly both reducing the prices that China can get for the rest and as the UST is the global "riskless" interest rate raising interest rates globally - neither good for China. Better to take their time, also they will never go all the way down to zero given the amount of trade they still do in US$, plus capital movements.
"

The finance war part is fascinating. When does the alternative Reserve Currency/global system of finance appear? If it really will represent money with intrinsic value, its game over for the West as the US dollar magically becomes the worthless measure of debt that it became in 1971. As I have written here before, when the music stops, I expect China to use its US Treasury "number" to pay off some other countries debt to the IMF/World Bank.

But back to Trump. Who is going to the last bully standing for empire in the US?

I keep trying to hurry things along but I can't see how Biden doesn't get hung with the title before this term is over.....Both Russia and China are now focused on bringing the bully of empire down. I don't see their effort taking another two years.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 9 2022 19:24 utc | 82

@Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 16:10 utc | 36

@Posted by: elkern | Aug 9 2022 17:32 utc | 57

I think what we are seeing is an increasing civil war within the US capitalist elites between those that have ruled foreign policy since the 1930s (the Open Door globalists) and the more domestic "nationalist" capitalists who are dependent upon the stability of local workforces, consumers, and social systems for their wealth (domestic oil and gas, property developers and owners, wholesalers and retailers, petit bourgeoisie). The destruction of all opposition to the US capitalist elite during the past 40 years has removed the needs for any compromises with other classes together with any external enemy that promotes capitalist class unity. The Unipolar Moment only added to both of these factors, and promoted extensive corruption in government services, especially the military that did not have a real enemy to worry about.

The Deep State is with the globalist capitalists (big banks, transnationals etc.) who don't give much of a sh*t about the vast majority of the US domestic population, represented by the bought and paid for "centrist" Democrats and Republicans, supported by the corrupted armed forces leadership and armaments industry, together with "big tech". This group was deep into the looting of the Soviet bloc after the fall of the USSR and is also heavily anglophile/europhile, together with being socially "liberal". The "nationalist" part of the elite also doesn't really give a sh*t about the domestic masses as long as their property can be protected and society is stable enough to allow their businesses to continue functioning and them to be relatively safe. This group tends to be more socially "conservative". This group wants to pull back from some of the massive costs of external commitments and focus on stabilizing the domestic economy and society in general that supports their wealth, actions which will negatively impact the wealth, incomes and positions of the Deep State coalition.

In the US "democracy" these are the only two choices provided, as even very soft leftists such as Saunders (really a social democrat) are nullified and others such as AOC co-opted into neoliberal wokism. The fight will be very destructive, and both sides are deeply corrupted and lacking the intellectual discipline honed in the contender states of Russia, China and Iran, and the biggest outcome will be the acceleration of the decline of the US. Neither side have any real answers to what is ailing the nation and the masses, which will just intensify the levels of social strife given the lack of working class institutions and leadership.

The UK feels very much the same, but it is a unitary state and the elite is much more concentrated and practised in group self-preservation. The same result with respect to general levels of violence and immiseration though. My own Canada most definitely does not feel like the Canada I emigrated to in 1994, traveling rapidly in a right-wing way economically - especially in Ontario - while the political parties play cultural war games. The same is true of France, Germany, the Netherlands Belgium, Scandinavia etc.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 9 2022 19:33 utc | 83

@inkan1969

May i ask you (without being offensive) a few things?

I come from a social democratic background in europe and i have studied politics. I really dont get it. Social democracy (and leftism as a whole) as i understood it, learned it and read it is all about class. When I consider myself a leftist I mean: I fight for the rights of workers regardless of race, sex, age and all the other identity markers against big corporations.

I always thought that everybody who thinks in categories like race is racist, who thinks in categoriesof sex is a sexist and who thinks in categories like gender is mentally sick.

When I read some of the holy books of wokeness i concluded that this stuff IS the most racist, sexist and crazy stuff i ever read. I concluded that it is a mix of the most stupid ideas of the last 150 years.

I am really interested in knowing how anybody can assume that wokeness is in any way "left". It is to a very substantial part a racist ideology. It is to a substntial part a communist ideology and it is to a substantil part a cult.

Its stupid group think on a dozen levels. It does not believe in individual rights or capabilities, it doesnt believe in freedom, it does believe in social constructivism (well thats routed in marx and rousseau but thats the kind ofleftism that has been tried by stalin and hitler and mao that we did never want to do again).

So my question is: how do you come to the conclussion that wokeness is something that should be valued?

Posted by: Orgel | Aug 9 2022 19:39 utc | 84

For an European, the FBI is an amazing phenomenon.
Thé rôle it played in the Trump-Russia connection hoax is almost incredible, as well as the fact that nothing happened when the hoax was clearly established
It shows the level of autonomy of this kind of agency, as well as the level of anti-Trump consensus in the DC ecosystem.
It also shows how weak the Trump presidency was, unable to put in place his own men at the key places.
He may well be elected again (no big competition apart from the Florida governor) but if he does not come with a comprehensive team he will fail again to change how America is working.

Posted by: Daniel | Aug 9 2022 19:51 utc | 85

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 9 2022 17:52 utc | 63

"He is an enigma shrouded in a conundrum.
I can see merit to arguing both sides. ...
We the people had the power all along. Could Trump just be a empty vessal that we have entrusted ourselves into to be sealed and buried behind the shed?
If only the greenback could speed up its collapse."

Neat post, the whole thing. But I agree that how to view the DJT phenomenon is tricky. I think Gruff identified one of the key dynamics which also explains why it is tricky:

"Trump did not create the wave he is riding on, and that wave is the unstoppable force. Few prominent figures in history were ever as great as the historical roles they filled."

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2022 19:13 utc | 79

Ultimately we are all interconnected. Some people step forward into the view of millions at certain times even if, as individuals, they have as many foibles and blind spots as most of us. There are some things that are beyond explanation.

The world is at the edge of a precipice right now. The possibility is there for a major course correction and a golden age led by Eurasian multipolar model and plenty of room for growth, which makes things much easier. Older societies can follow along quite nicely if they so choose and we can fulfill some of the post WWII aspirations of having a world at peace with economic and political well-being.

Or we can plunge into inferno in which hundreds of millions, if not billions, will die prematurely.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 9 2022 20:08 utc | 86

Yes, to harm POTUS Trump. But also to terrify the spouse and children of anyone who would think to stand for election to hose down the US/UK/Five Eyes "Intelligence Community," the "Interagency."

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Aug 9 2022 20:13 utc | 87

Roger @84--

As Hudson has written, even industrial capitalism has financialized itself to the point where Neoliberalism is the one prevailing doctrine/system. I've discussed how to overcome that with Hudson, his opinion being Neoliberal hold on power and system are too much for any attempt working within the system to gather enough strength to oust them--the effort must come from outside the system. That effort is being mounted by Russia, China, and their allies in the Multipolar World, with a big test coming this September with the naming of Lavrov to head Russia's UNGA Debate delegation, Lavrov being illegally sanctioned. If Biden and crew refuse to issue him a visa, New York as host to the UN will be severely challenged to remain host in which it stands an excellent chance of losing that longtime tenant. That will be a major blow to what remains of Outlaw US Empire primacy. I'll repeat one of the above Bastiat citations, the important part being emphasized:

"When misguided public opinion honors what is despicable and despises what is honorable, punishes virtue and rewards vice, encourages what is harmful and discourages what is useful, applauds falsehood and smothers truth under indifference or insult, a nation turns its back on progress and can be restored only by the terrible lessons of catastrophe."

Neoliberalism isn't progress whatsoever; it's regression and aims at rejuvenating Feudalism, which has been the primary mode of relations between creditors and debtors over the past 4,000+ years. For me, the main issue is the specific nature of the coming catastrophe, which I'm hoping will be limited to the Neoliberal part of the world. Diesen has done a good enough job of predicting what will become of the European Peninsula, while North America will suffer something similar to the Great Depression except worse since there's really no industrial economy to act as a buffer--real unemployment never breached 25% of the work force during the 1930s, but that was a much different economy then. The key point is North Americans will still be able to feed themselves since they aren't dependent on food imports like Japan or much of Europe and the UK. If you read Crooke's latest I copy/pasted yesterday, particularly the Telegraph piece he cited, you'll get an idea of the reality that faces UK + EU. And of course, that's the real reason why Russia's taking its time in Ukraine--instead of being bled dry by NATO, it's bleeding-out NATO.

Neither Trump, Biden or anyone else within the system can reverse what's in-store for they are blind to it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 20:20 utc | 88

@c1ue | Aug 9 2022 18:32 utc | 69

I don't want to be polemic about this, I said "The 2020 election was clearly stolen from Trump, but Trump is not the solution to the US problems of today."

Then you ask

1) What new wars did Trump start?
2) Who first proposed that the US should withdraw from Afghanistan? Trump
3) Who actually got pretty deep into a peace negotiation with North Korea? Trump

I didn't say Trump started a war, or that everything he did was wrong. He did try with the murder of Soleimani, but luckily the Iranians kept their cool. I strongly suspected before 2020 Biden would be much worse than Trump, and we now see that that was too optimistic, because the Biden administration is far worse than Trump.

All I am saying is that I don't see Trump as providing any solutions to the internal problems in the US, or the external problems that the US is creating in the world, including in my country. I was optimistic about his intentions in 2016, but he proved to be ineffective because of 'poor choices' wrt. people in his administration. He would have to prove much more effective than in his first term, and I simply do not see him being able to do it.

Are there more effective alternatives? I don't know. Fundamentally it is up to the US population to somehow implement sane policies. But, when the US is f***ng with the world the way that it is doing now, don't be surprised if we want to have a say about how the US is ruled.

It is even MORE wrong to say that TPTB want to reinstate him. If anything has been made clear after Russiagate bullshit and Jan. 6 bullshit and how FBI raiding his house bullshit - it is that the Democrats (and the dinosaur Republicans, to be clear) clearly DO NOT want Trump to be President again.
Sure, but I don't think it is relevant from the world's point of view what the Democrats want. What should be relevant for the US people is to find some way to coexist in peace with the rest of the world.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2022 20:30 utc | 89

Meanwhile, back in the real world:

https://babylonbee.com/news/hunter-biden-breathes-sigh-of-relief-as-fbi-raid-team-passes-by-his-house-on-way-to-mar-a-lago

karlov1: I too hope the chaos and/or carnage is limited to the West which is yet another reason why the Eurasian bloc needs to separate as quickly as possible, something the Chinese has finally started to do after the (probably coordinated) Pelosi provocation. The American citizenry has been collectively so disempowered and dumbed down (not to mention medically drugged) that the likelihood of their being able to mount any sort of collectively organized intelligent revolution is close to zero.

But if the rest of the world starves America into dysfunction by going their own way (aided no doubt by in-house elites who mistakenly believe they will be masters of the universe once this happens), then maybe not only will their unipolar moment be vernichted from the realm of the potential but also the common citizenry may actually have a shot at a constitutional reboot instead of their planned technofascist Reset. One can pray for a good outcome, but if history is any guide the West is going to wallow in the rotten fruit of its own corrupt excesses for a few decades at least excesses for which we are all collectively responsible whether or no we feel it to be the case.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 9 2022 20:40 utc | 90

@ Posted by: Orgel | Aug 9 2022 19:39 utc | 85

Who told you Hitler was a "social constructivist"? Nazism is an ideology premised on the immutability of race, firmly anchored - as some radical feminists insist on doing with sex/gender - in some biological or otherwise "natural" factor. This is a key ideological premise of the whole Nazi movement: the rejection of the "artificial," identified with Jewishness, and the promotion of the "vital" and "natural."

Posted by: fnord | Aug 9 2022 20:42 utc | 91

Democrats act like they are immune from accountability.
Do they know something they aren't telling us?

Posted by: John Kirsch | Aug 9 2022 20:43 utc | 92

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 9 2022 15:43 utc | 26

have you seen the "fed-poster" meme?

Posted by: Per/Norway | Aug 9 2022 20:45 utc | 93

Trump people are racists, gullible and uneducated, red neck and SOB .

Posted by: Bobby | Aug 9 2022 15:28 utc | 22


I am Swiss and do not know any "Trump people". But it should be clear to anyone with sense that such generalizations are absolute nonsense.

Posted by: SwissGuy | Aug 9 2022 20:48 utc | 94

I voted for Trump in 2020 and intend to do so again. So I'm gullible and uneducated?

I have four university degrees, including an Oxford B.A. with first class honours and a Harvard Ph.D.

Posted by: Lysias | Aug 9 2022 21:00 utc | 95

"Voting is to tell the population who they will get as their next ruler, in such a way that they think they chose him/her/it themselves". Joe Tzu

***

Surely part of the present fracas is to stir up interest and passion in what - for the owners - will be their choice of president? Otherwise those who saw the shape-shifting votes in the previous election, might be tempted to simply stay away and reorganise a local leadership that might conform to their needs and desires.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 9 2022 21:04 utc | 96

@Posted by: John Kirsch | Aug 9 2022 20:43 utc | 91

Not only the US Democrats, but all of theur subisidiaries governments in Europe too.

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Aug 9 2022 21:07 utc | 97

Democrats act like they are immune from accountability.
Do they know something they aren't telling us?

John Kirsch | Aug 9 2022 20:43 utc | 91

They know how to do it.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 9 2022 21:10 utc | 98

The unprecedented raid on a former president's residence raises the question: Is there anything Democrats will not do to prevent a second Trump presidency?

Posted by: John Kirsch | Aug 9 2022 21:14 utc | 99

Voting is to convince the population that what the government does is the voters' fault.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2022 21:18 utc | 100

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