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RIP – Darya Dugina
Some voices on the death of Darya Dugina:
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Car blast kills daughter of Russian philosopher Dugin – RT.com
Investigators suspect an improvised explosive device was used
A powerful explosion ripped apart an SUV near Moscow on Saturday night, instantly killing its driver, identified as Darya Dugina, the daughter of Russian political commentator Aleksandr Dugin.
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Earlier on Saturday evening, Dugin was giving a lecture on ‘Tradition and History’ at a family festival in Moscow Region. His daughter attended the event as a guest. Unconfirmed reports say Dugin initially planned to leave the festival with his daughter, but later decided to take a separate car, while Darya took his Toyota Land Cruiser Prado.
Dugina was a political commentator and daughter of the veteran Russian philosopher, known for his staunch anti-Western and ‘neo-Eurasian’ views.
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Western media has painted Dugin as a driving force behind President Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy over the past decade. In recent months, CBS dubbed him “the far-right theorist behind Putin’s plan,” while the Washington Post called him a “far-right mystical writer who helped shape Putin’s view of Russia.”
In Russia, the supposed shadowy puppet master is largely considered to be a marginal figure. While he has served as an adviser to several politicians, Dugin never enjoyed official endorsement from the Kremlin. In 2014, he was fired from his position at Moscow State University, after critics interpreted his call to “kill, kill, kill” those behind massacres in Ukraine, such as the Odessa tragedy, as a call for a genocide against Ukrainian people.
The US think tank RAND Corporation wrote in 2017 that despite Western media reports of Dugin’s alleged “ties and connections” to the Russian leadership, he is “perhaps best thought of as an extremist provocateur with some limited and peripheral impact than as an influential analyst with a direct impact on policy.”
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The Assassination Of Alexander Dugin’s Daughter Darya Was A Dastardly Terrorist Attack – Andrew Korbyko
This targeted assassination that was indisputably influenced by half a decade’s worth of fake news about that philosopher shows the deadly consequences of America’s information warfare campaign. It also confirms that the declining unipolar hegemon’s proxies in Kiev are truly state sponsors of terrorism who must accordingly be treated as such by the international community. This dastardly terrorist attack threatens the legitimate rules-based order enshrined in the UN Charter and thus confirms that the US is deliberately sowing the seeds of chaos in a desperate last-ditch attempt to erode Russian morale after the slow but steady advance of its forces over the past half-year of its special military operation.
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Gerhard Mangott @gerhard_mangott – 11:31 UTC · Aug 21, 2022
Nach dem Mordanschlag auf die Tochter des rechtsnationalistischen russischen Ideologen Aleksander Dugin, wird nun immer darauf hingewiesen, dass er der ideologische Einflüsterer Putins ist. Das ist schlichtweg nicht wahr.
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Mark Sleboda @MarkSleboda1 – 9:11 UTC · Aug 21, 2022
The attempted assassination of Dugin which instead resulted in the killing of his daughter, was part of the increasingly demented propaganda and infowar of a desperate and crumbling U.S. proxy Putsch regime in Kiev in lieu of success on the battlefield of which it is incapable.
The killing of "Putin's brain" who "inspired" the Russian intervention in the Ukrainian civil conflict would be celebrated by Kiev regime propagandists as a "victory". It does not matter in the slightest that none of it is true.
It doesn't matter that in reality Dugin has never met or spoken to Putin. It doesn't matter that his unique ideas had zero influence in the Kremlin and little to none in the rest of Russian society. In doesn't matter that to the contrary the Kremlin got Dugin fired from Moscow State University and banned him from government media because of his strident views on the Putsch in Ukraine at a time when the Kremlin was pushing the Minsk accords to resolve the civil conflict there.
The truth doesn't matter because Dugin has been blown up as a caricature bogeyman in the minds of the West and Putsch-controlled Ukraine. And his assassination would thus still serve as a propaganda victory, in spite of it's complete divorce from reality.
In this, the Western media which caricatured and inflated Dugin and the Western governments which nonsensically sanctioned him are fully complicit in the murder of Darya Dugina, his daughter.
Some folks in Kiev and London will have to pay a high price for this ugly deed.
(I usually do not allow full copies of other pieces here but this is an exception as its messages are important.)
Strana news, now prohibited in Ukraine, on the incident (machine translation):
90 degrees Putin. How explosions in Crimea and the death of Dugin’s daughter can change the situation in Russia
The death of the daughter of one of the main ideologists of the anti-Western course of Russia, Alexander Dugin, caused a great resonance, and not only in Russia.
In the Russian Federation, literally immediately, the version about the “Ukrainian trace” became the main one.
In Ukraine, this was denied. Mikhail Podolyak, adviser to the head of the President’s Office, called the murder of Daria Dugina the result of “a struggle between various political groups in Russia” in order to increase “ideological information pressure on Russian society” against Ukraine and in order to “internal ideological space in Russia itself become even more ultra-radical.”
Meanwhile, the death of Dugin’s daughter has become part of a chain of other events that could affect the situation in Russia itself and the course of the war in Ukraine.
Approximately 10 hours before the explosion of the car with Daria Dugin, Alexander Dugin himself published a rather harsh and critical message in relation to the Russian authorities in his telegram channel.
It was caused by the news about the next explosions in the Crimea, but taking into account the subsequent death of Daria Dugina, the text looks even more revealing.
We quote this message in full:
“I believe that the status quo regime in Russia can theoretically last no longer than 6 months. The desperate resistance of the Atlanto-Nazi regime in Kyiv demands from Russia significant – cardinal – internal transformations. Structural, ideological, personnel, institutional, strategic.
That which is acceptable without an NWO [= Special Military Operation], in the conditions of an NWO – and especially a long one that is not going to end – is not acceptable.
Increasing attacks on Crimea, attempts to arrange a nuclear explosion in Zaporozhye, declarations of a counter-offensive on Kherson, Zelensky’s firm refusal to compromise, the West’s persistence in cutting off all ties with Russia – all these are signs that they decided to stand on the other end to the end . They can be understood: Russia actually (and this is not propaganda) challenged the West as a civilization.
So we have to go all the way.
The Supreme Commander-in-Chief said: we haven’t really started anything yet. Now we have to start. You want – you don’t want – but you have to.
For the first 6 months we were able – and this is a fact – to conduct the NWO without fundamentally changing anything in Russia itself. So far, the changes are cosmetic, and even completely inappropriate and useless elections have been decided to be held according to the schedule. As if nothing is happening. But it’s actually happening.
The maximum comfort mode (adjusted for emergency conditions) and the preservation of the old system – “war through a dream” – will have to be canceled at some point.
It seems to me that with the beginning of autumn, this awareness of the need to transfer the country to a new track will be quite clear.
It will take another six months to realize the “irreversibility of the irreversible” and the inertial continuation of the old.
And there is not far and February 24, 2023.
I can understand that the authorities have been used to ruling the way they rule – more or less effectively – for 22 years. But that period is in the past. SVO has already changed everything. Now the question is not whether the government wants or does not want change. And it is precisely patriotic – conservative-revolutionary, if you like. Such changes are simply inevitable – even if you stand to death against their beginning, it will be possible to delay it for no more than six months. And then they will come anyway.
SVO is now more important than power – in its subjective dimension. With the beginning of the SVO, the regime of history itself changed irreversibly: a new ontological vector appeared that cannot be dissolved by arbitrariness or decree. The mighty forces of history have come into play, the tectonic plates have shifted.
Let the old regime bury its dead. A new Russian time is coming. Relentlessly.”
Approximately in this spirit, many Russian telegram channels and bloggers who support the “special operation” began to comment on the death of Darya Dugina, blaming Ukraine for it unequivocally and urging “to go to the end.”
And it was in this form that they commented on the strikes on the Crimea, as well as on objects on the territory of Russia.
And with them, as Strana already wrote, there are many oddities. In addition to obvious explosions (an airfield near Sak, an ammunition depot near Dzhankoy), there were also a lot of fake reports.
But, interestingly, they began to spread not through the Ukrainian media (which would have been natural during the war), but through the Russian ones. And then they were actively picked up by the resources supporting the “special operation” and with the message already mentioned above “it’s time to stop waging a” war through a dream “. Such an inflating of anxious, and even panic, moods during the war by the forces that support it looks strange.
Unless we assume that this is part of a broad campaign to justify some impending tough decisions by the Russian authorities both in relation to Ukraine and in domestic politics.
Or, which is also likely, to push the Russian authorities and Putin personally to such decisions.
After all, while the Russian authorities, obviously, have a slightly different concept. Approximately the one Dugin wrote about.
War in the format of a football match
The Kremlin, having started the biggest war in Europe since 1945, does not call it a war and tries to make sure that this war is practically not felt inside the Russian Federation. They try to preserve even purely symbolic signs of “peacetime” – from the holding of elections on September 11 to the “tank biathlon” criticized by Girkin.
As a result, the majority of the population in the Russian Federation now perceives the “special operation” as a football match in which they “cheer for ours”, but they themselves remain in the role of spectators and no one is forcing them to go out to play on the field. “Play”, that is, they fight, only those who are paid money.
This formula of “like a war” is criticized not only by Dugin.
There is also Girkin-Strelkov, who calls “to start fighting for real, for example, to announce mobilization.” He also harshly criticizes the actions of the Russian command and the Russian authorities in general on a daily basis. At the same time, living (and by no means underground) in a country where, according to the law on “discrediting the Russian army,” citizens are sentenced even for writing the word “special operation” in quotation marks. And the fact that Girkin-Strelkov is still at large shows that at least some of the “Kremlin towers” consider his thoughts useful.
The question is whether Putin himself considers them useful.
Putin’s maneuver
On the one hand, it is difficult to suspect the liberalism of the President of Russia, and earlier he has repeatedly used the topic of various threats to tighten the screws.
On the other hand, the concept of “kind of war” criticized by Dugin and Girkin gives Putin a certain freedom of maneuver. Namely, the opportunity to end the “special operation” at the moment when he wants, declaring any of its results a victory without serious political damage to himself and to the entire system of Russian power.
The degree of possible dissatisfaction with this Russian society should not be exaggerated.
Revealing poll data was recently published, according to which approximately the same number of Russians (about 60%) would support both a new attack on Kyiv (that is, an intensification of the war) and Putin’s decision to stop the “special operation”.
If society (mostly) did not question Putin when he started the big war without an obvious casus belli, then it is even less likely (for the most part) to ask questions if he also suddenly stops the war. Especially if this is accompanied by some, from the point of view of the Russians, “profit” – for example, the neutral status of Ukraine or “the growth of the Russian state with new lands.”
That is why Putin has so far refrained from taking steps that could bring a sense of war to every Russian family. For example, from the announcement of mobilization. Moreover, the military effect of it is doubtful, and the socio-political one can be extremely negative. And in general, the readiness of the very system of Russian power to transfer the country to the rails of “total war” (and the Russian society to live on these rails) is very doubtful. As well as, in general, the prospects and meaning for Russia of such a “total war”.
The phrase Peskov said after the retreat of Russian troops from near Kyiv has already become a classic: “Stalingrad is not on the calendar and should not be, there is no place for emotions.”
But the way the campaign is systematically unfolding on the topic “you need to go to the end, fight for real, change the system of power and internal order to meet the needs of wartime” shows that not everyone in the Kremlin (or near the Kremlin) agrees with Peskov.
“Twist” to 180
Dugin once wrote a text saying that Putin is a person who does everything “at 90 degrees”. That is, half. For example, after Yeltsin he did away with liberalism in domestic politics, but kept it partly in the economy. He annexed the Crimea and created the “LDNR”, but did not go further. And now he started a war with Ukraine, but he did not call it a war and did not transfer the country “on a war footing.”
And here we return to the main question – whether the current campaign for “total war to a victorious end” is Putin’s own sanctioned preparation of Russians for the coming harsh times.
Either this is an attempt by certain forces (for one reason or another) to induce Putin to “turn around” to 180 degrees, and at the same time nullify the likelihood of compromises with Ukraine and the West to end the war.
And in this case, the question is whose arguments will outweigh. Because the current concept of the Kremlin, as it was written above, does not imply “total war”. And it assumes the continuation of the “special operation” in the same unhurried format as now, in the expectation that sooner or later a situation will arise when the results of the “special operation” can be recorded at least at the level of a truce or even some kind of big agreement. After that, and announce its “victorious completion.”
Nevertheless, statements about “failures in air defense and the defense of Crimea” and “about the war already on the territory of Russia” within the framework of this concept are attributed to inflating panic, and even to “working for the enemies of Russia.”
However, one way or another, the Russian authorities will probably react to the flow of events with explosions and to the demands to “start fighting for real.” But it is possible that the traditional 90 degrees: they will not announce any mobilizations, but they will announce missile strikes “on decision-making centers”, they will tighten the screws in domestic politics and further strengthen the control of special services over many processes.
Posted by: b | Aug 21 2022 15:45 utc | 41
Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 21 2022 16:18 utc | 49
First, I will state that I do not know who is responsible for the murder of Darya Dugin…nobody knows…yet. Arguments can be made for this being planned by Ukrainians/NATO types or something with a Russian origin. I will wait to see if enough verifiable facts come to light to allow me to draw a conclusion. You seem to be ok with the killing even implying that its of Ukrainian origin…or am I misinterpreting your comment?
Also, ‘denazification’ is not the same as targeted assassination. I agree that any civilian who has been directly targeted and killed by Russian forces would be a horrible war crime. This is true for any time a civilian is killed purposefully by any government or group. I would also agree that any civilian who is indirectly killed by being in proximity to legitimate military targets is a tragedy with possible war crime implications depending on the facts. However, a terrorist bombing, far away from the battlefields, with a civilian as the target, is simply murder…apparently ok with you, right? Chickens coming home to roost, right?
yenwoda, can you provide an honest answer about your nationality? I’m wondering what skin you have in this game. Are you simply a neo-liberal, neo-con in America or Europe who supports NATO foreign policy and wants to continue expanding western hegemony – perhaps a true believer – unpaid or paid poster? Are you a Ukrainian patriot who supports the current Ukrainian government in what you think is a war for your own preservation? Are you a western-leaning Russian who wants ‘regime change’ in your own country? Are you from a country not directly connected to this conflict in any way? Just curious.
I am an independent citizen of the United States who is anti-war, and more specifically, anti-American foreign policy and neo-imperialism. I do not have any control over any other government and remain mostly agnostic about international foreign conflicts, except for trying to find out the role of my government in fomenting and creating conflicts all over the world. The historical record often implicates my government in all sorts of illegal treachery (by illegal, I mean controverting the known tenets of international law) – I won’t list them all here. My skin in this game is that my government has been actively working to cause ‘regime change’ in the USSR and Russia for decades. This is illegal under international law. My government has throughout its history acted in ways that directly contradict its stated goals of supporting democracy. I oppose these actions. I also believe that although I do not have much direct control over the actions of my government, I am responsible for what my government has done, is doing, and will do (I even take this responsibility back throughout history and believe my government, thus its citizens, are responsible for figuring out ways to right the wrongs that have been done via direct and explicit government policies).
My government made an explicit agreement not to expand NATO to the east. My government broke that agreement and that is the genesis of this whole sordid affair in the Ukraine. My government has been planning covert, resistance and special forces actions in Ukraine since the 1950’s – perhaps you’ve clicked on some of the links I have posted to CIA documents proving this. Perhaps you are of the old-school, anti-Communist variety that supported every US policy that put dictators in power to kill their own people and exploit resources in order to support American free markets and democracy (ironically even when it undermined actual democracy and freedom in those countries). If so, I disagree with this policy position as being antithetical to the stated idea of sovereignty and self-determination that are supposed to be core American beliefs. It is immoral and unethical. But power and money are more important than principles, right? Perhaps, as others in the US believe, you support the idea that it is OK to break agreements with other countries whenever it suits American interests. If so, your beliefs are more responsible for Russia’s decision to invade Ukraine than you would like to admit. Perhaps you believe, as former Ambassador Michael McFaul and former CIA director Pompeo do, that it is ok to lie about foreign policy to our friends and foes alike. Well, there’s not much to talk about if ‘might makes right’ and ‘ends justify means’…because if that is what you believe then you must think it is ok for Russia to invade Ukraine. Russia protested about NATO expansion and the abrogations and withdrawals from treaties by the US. Russia signed the Minsk agreements which were used by Ukraine as a ruse to provide more time to build up its military (if you believe the words of Petro Poroshencko). Russia tried to offer negotiations with the US/NATO/EU in 2021 to create a new security framework that would have prevented this but the West said, “Talk to the hand”. Well…Russia, as the US usually does, finally decided that their ‘might’ will make it ‘right’ and that the ‘ends’ of the SMO will justify their ‘means’. I don’t like that Russia has done this, but I am only an Objective Observer, not the President of a sovereign nation that believes it is protecting its own interests in accordance with international law.
While you say that people on this website “excuse with outright lies and propaganda the shooting down of airliners, blowing up of malls and cluster bombing of bread lines”, this is disingenuous. Most people, I would hope this includes yourself, do not believe that when they make opposing arguments that they are lying or basing their arguments on lies.
About MH17 – any investigation which is not full and open to all evidence and does not include all interested parties is not a fair investigation. The cause of the shooting down of the plane was contested from the beginning, but the official investigation made a predetermined choice to ‘side’ with Ukraine and prevented Russian participation in a fair and open way. This puts the findings of that investigation in a bad light – for anyone who wants to get to the real truth through an open, honest, and full investigation of all the possible facts and interpretations. People who do not support the idea that the ‘Russians’ shot down the plane, simply disagree with the ‘findings of fact’ that were produced through an investigation that did not include all interested parties. For me, I don’t know what happened, but I can’t trust the findings of the ‘official’ investigations for reasons just cited.
As to the blowing up malls, well, once again, while some people might think it is good that a mall was bombed no matter what, many do not believe the facts show that any mall was intentionally bombed, but was ‘collateral damage’, or believe that it was bombed because they that facts show that the mall was being used by the Ukrainian military which makes the mall a legitimate military target. There is plenty of evidence showing that the Ukrainian military does this (i.e., using civilian infrastructure for storage and shelter). Some who support the Ukrainian government’s choices claim that, basically, ‘all is fair in war’, but that is not what international law says should be done.
Cluster bombing bread lines – well, if the Russians made a choice to bomb a civilian target with no military value, that is a war crime. However, Russia did not sign the ban on cluster bombs, and neither has the US. So, depending on how you see the facts, which are often murky in war, using cluster bombs, could be illegal (if aimed at civilians) but might not be since Russia is not a signatory to the convention and would argue that it was aiming at military targets. I simply don’t know what the truth is.
I can only speak for me – I do not want anyone to be killed in this conflict – soldiers or civilians, Ukrainians or Russians. That said, my government has fomented and encouraged all of the provocations that led to Russia making a decision to invade Ukraine. My government is continuing to support with money, weapons, and logistical support continued warfare. While I do not support the war, I understand why Russia decided to invade Ukraine. While I want there to be an immediate cessation of hostilities, I understand why Russia is making its choices because I understand how my own government operates. While I do not support violence, I have myself been forced into fights no matter how much I tried to avoid them. I feel that my government forced Russia to fight, and I want my government to stop everything it is doing that continues this SMO/war/whatever.
Just wondering…or are you a true believe with skin in the game? Are you just a troll looking to scare up a discord and/or make money?
Posted by: Objective Observer | Aug 21 2022 19:41 utc | 80
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