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Posted by: leaf | Aug 21 2022 12:59 utc | 1

Rest in peace Darya, you should be avenged very soon..

Posted by: Palladin | Aug 21 2022 12:59 utc | 2

I don't believe that this is an attack on an associate of Putin as such. Rather, I think that it has the same motivation as the strident media campaign in the West. That is, to incite and make acceptable a full war between Russia and the combined West. In this case the aim of the attack is to inflame opinion in Russia, again aiming at building pressure for a full war.

The measured approach by the Russian authorities so far has kept the situation from totally escalating. I just hope for the sake of humanity that they can keep their cool in the light of what will be increasing provocations.

Posted by: Ross | Aug 21 2022 13:11 utc | 3

I wonder whether resort to terrorism is a move by Ukrainian authorities or their sponsors as an expression of frustration.

Posted by: Waldorf | Aug 21 2022 13:17 utc | 4

Most likely SBU or any similar groups. Russia have have had months to target intelligence services in Ukraine, they had years to prepare. Nothing have been done.
This will of course not be the last assassination against top level russians, ministers will be targeted and most likely Dugin will be successfully targeted himself coming months.

Just a week or so back Ukraine managed to seriously hurt a pro-russian politician by poisoning him.

NYT reports that #Ukrainian intelligence poisoned Russian-appointed head of #Kherson regional administration. He is former mayor of Kherson city in #Ukraine. Saldo is reportedly in coma in Crimea. #RussianUkrainianWar #UkraineRussiaWar #UkraineWar

https://twitter.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1557401535172296710

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 21 2022 13:17 utc | 5

I do think our Western habit of polluting our information space with tons and tons of commercial and political bullshit, exaggeration, and mis-representations is a big mistake, and very bad social hygeine, however well it pays. Sure, everybody does it, but they don't decide to try to live in their fake reality all the time. The problem is within a generation or two you wind up where we are now. All you "experts" are bullshitters.

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 21 2022 13:17 utc | 6

Whatever take one has on Dugina’s politics, a violent terrorist action in Moscow will only serve to harden Russian public opinion against Kiev. More Russian men will now volunteer to fight in Ukraine. Classic short term response from Zelensky and the West. They have no answers to the more serious long term issues, such as Russia’s slow but relentless advance across the East.

Posted by: Martin | Aug 21 2022 13:24 utc | 7

Looks like he was singled out possibly as an easier target, but it went very wrong, now people will listen to the man, a man the Kremlin once ignored will now be popular and the masses will be sympathetic towards him, and possibly his ideology.

Of course there will be some sort of retribution for the killing in Moscow some folk will need to keep looking over their shoulders.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 21 2022 13:28 utc | 8

And his assassination would thus still serve as a propaganda victory, in spite of it's complete divorce from reality.

By their own demented success rating: Assuming that Alexandr Dugin himself was the target, the assassination was a failure and thus as a gigantic propaganda flop where these incompetent cowards instead managed to assassinate his innocent daughter.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 21 2022 13:28 utc | 9

Tragic. Or is she just an innocent victim? Since the vehicle was registered in her father's name.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Aug 21 2022 13:28 utc | 10

A deliberate act of terror to elicit a response from the Russians. Likely hoping to get rid of Zelenski and get NATO directly involved.

Posted by: Persse | Aug 21 2022 13:36 utc | 11

Just took a quick look at how DNC/CIA index point dailykos.com is reviewing the assassination. They are rejoicing. Dugina was a fascist and terrorist and got what was coming to her. Most of the comments I believe are bots, but so what. When acceptable and sponsored discourse celebrates homicide expect more homicide.

I want to wake up from this nightmare. The country I live in has gone mad.

Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 21 2022 13:36 utc | 12

Fascism has consequences. Oh well.

Posted by: Xev | Aug 21 2022 13:40 utc | 13

Roger Waters makes it to Ukraine's hit list for opponents (ie anyone who doesn't bend the knee to the Ukraine regime). Olez Buzina, a Ukrainian journalist made the list ans was killed by a car bomb. Eva Bartlett, a journalist covering Gaza, Syria and Donbass is now on the list.

This has been going on since April 2015

Ukraine: "Both Sides Touched" By NATO Related Murder Of The Other Side

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/04/ukraine-both-sides-touched-by-nato-related-murder-of-one-side.html

Nothing shrieks 'western values' more than having a hitlist of journalists and political opponents.

Posted by: Arfur Mo | Aug 21 2022 13:47 utc | 14

The first point about the tragic murder of Darva Dugin is that it illustrates the utter hypocrisy of Ukrainian leadership. It confirms the neoNazi dependence on propaganda and war crimes. The people who did this are perfectly capable of shelling nuclear reactors, using cluster munitions on civilians, shooting their own servicemen and using human shields. It's simply irrational to assume they might be generally moral but exceptionally engage in a bit of casual assasination. Evil, like Brighton Rock, goes all the way through.

The second point is that this comes at the same time as the apparent suicide of Aleksandr Nakonechny, head of Kirovograd SBU. That in itself was probably associated with the a "purge" of SBU staff reported by RT:

"Just over a month ago, he fired Prosecutor General Irina Venediktova and SBU head Ivan Bakanov over claims of “rampant” treason in the two agencies during the conflict with Russia. Hundreds of criminal cases have been launched against employees of the two entities, according to Zelensky.

Many regional SBU chiefs have also been removed over the past month. The latest high-profile dismissals took place on Monday, when the department heads of the city of Kiev, as well as of the Kiev, Ternopol, and Lviv regions, were ousted.

"Treason" is an interesting claim. When the enforcers of loyalty are themselves charged with disloyalty, who will be watching Zelensky's back? But the new uberloyal replacements clearly have a new remit too, if Dugina's assasination is anything to judge by.

Posted by: tPaine | Aug 21 2022 13:51 utc | 15

Rip Darva Dugin :(

Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Aug 21 2022 13:57 utc | 16

Truly, the West and its media should hang their heads in shame. The celebratory tone of the Western media's reporting of this tragic incident is truly shameful. Most people around the world never look to the West for moral leadership, but until recently most people still think that the West would learn to be civilized by and by. But it seems that seems never going to happen.

Posted by: Steve | Aug 21 2022 13:58 utc | 17

In other news, on Thursday, September 15, President Biden will host the United We Stand Summit at the White House to counter the corrosive effects of hate-fueled violence on our democracy and public safety, highlight the response of the Biden-Harris Administration and communities nationwide to these dangers, and put forward a shared, bipartisan vision for a more united America. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 21 2022 14:01 utc | 18

Shocking.

I am British and am deeply saddened by the atrocious behaviour of the government here and the anti Russian propaganda that has been whipped up.

If British intelligence services are implicated in this terrorist act (it’s an ‘if’, of course) then I hope that they and their bosses are brought to trial to account for the evil that has been committed.

Posted by: Stephen | Aug 21 2022 14:03 utc | 19

Strangely, this seems to be creating outrage even among those who shrugged off 8 years of random shelling civilian targets (killing 10k civilians) in Donetsk, more recently peaking with 20000 anti personnel mines being dispersed into the city, and the UA artillery and rocket attacks aimed at nuke plants' cooling systems and toxic spent fuel, and all kinds of mundane naziism.

NATO has become an unapologetic sponsor of terror, right on its own borders. Hope all the media workers contributing to this are proud of themselves.

Posted by: ptb | Aug 21 2022 14:06 utc | 20

Can't rule out the possibility that the daughter was the target herself.

If the perps believe their own propaganda that Dugin is a spiritual leader but not a "strategic asset" and they really just want to hurt him for his "crimes against humanity" then the daughter could be the target.

Think about what is a bigger pain for a person? A quick, violent death or left alive to live with pain of loss of their children?
The answer is a no brainer.

Posted by: FieryButMostPeaceful | Aug 21 2022 14:10 utc | 21

And no one in America knew her or cares. This is also a tragedy. Fighting faceless wars, backing terrorists and Nazis the US goose steps forward while social mobility reverses itself.

Posted by: Maricata | Aug 21 2022 14:11 utc | 22

Aleksander Dugin post on Telegram hours before the martyrdom of his daughter by some hands of the empire of chaos:
"I believe that the status quo regime in Russia can theoretically last no longer than 6 months. The desperate resistance of the Atlanto-Nazi regime in Kyiv demands from Russia significant - cardinal - internal transformations. Structural, ideological, personnel, institutional, strategic.
What is acceptable without SVO, under the conditions of SVO - and especially a long SVO that is not going to end - is not acceptable.
Increasing attacks on Crimea, attempts to arrange a nuclear explosion in Zaporozhye, declarations of a counter-offensive on Kherson, Zelensky’s firm refusal to compromise, the West’s persistence in cutting off all ties with Russia – all these are signs that they decided to stand on the other end to the end . They can be understood: Russia actually (and this is not propaganda) challenged the West as a civilization.
So we have to go all the way.
The Supreme Commander-in-Chief said: we haven't really started anything yet. Now we have to start. You want - you don't want - but you have to.
For the first 6 months we were able - and this is a fact - to conduct the NWO without fundamentally changing anything in Russia itself. So far, the changes are cosmetic, and even completely inappropriate and useless elections have been decided to be held according to the schedule. As if nothing is happening. But it's actually happening.
The maximum comfort mode (adjusted for emergency conditions) and the preservation of the old system - "war through a dream" - will have to be canceled at some point.
It seems to me that with the beginning of autumn, this awareness of the need to transfer the country to a new track will be quite clear.
It will take another six months to realize the “irreversibility of the irreversible” and the inertial continuation of the old.
And there is not far and February 24, 2023.
I can understand that the authorities have been used to ruling the way they rule - more or less effectively - for 22 years. But that period is in the past. SVO has already changed everything. Now the question is not whether the government wants or does not want change. And it is precisely patriotic - conservative-revolutionary, if you like. Such changes are simply inevitable - even if you stand to death against their beginning, it will be possible to delay it for no more than six months. And then they will come anyway.
SVO is now more important than power - in its subjective dimension. With the beginning of the SVO, the regime of history itself changed irreversibly: a new ontological vector appeared that cannot be dissolved by arbitrariness or decree. The mighty forces of history have come into play, the tectonic plates have shifted.
Let the old regime bury its dead. A new Russian time is coming. Relentlessly.
“Неумолимо.”

Source: https://t.me/Agdchan/6891

Posted by: Кавказ | Aug 21 2022 14:23 utc | 23

Will wait to see what Russian law enforcement says about the evidence. Just another nail in the coffin of the 'rules-based' US world dictatorship if the 'west' or its proxy is the culprit. If it's meant to make Putin respond, they picked wrong target. imo.

Posted by: gottlieb | Aug 21 2022 14:26 utc | 24

EUkrainian warriors have been building up a significant balance of 'distraction's in the Donbass and now in Russia. In the 'lockstep' they understand best, those should have been answered in ways they could not misunderstand.

They have not been and, hence, the boneheads grow bolder.

Last week a funeral in Donetsk was targeted for a strike and a number of those present were killed and injured - including another child. Yesterday, EUkrainian children were celebrating battle field victories, playing on 'war trophies' placed on a Kyiv Avenue to 'boost morale".

Their 'morale' is long overdue a solid kick in the pants.

Posted by: Kevin Quinn | Aug 21 2022 14:27 utc | 25

In case you were wondering 'Darya' is a Persian female name. It means Ocean.
The Ocean plays a significant symbolic role in Persian prose and poetry. With its depth and breadth, and it's life-giving capacity it is a subtle symbol of the Higher Power.

Posted by: Ali | Aug 21 2022 14:35 utc | 26

thank you Bernhard for this in memorial.

Posted by: njet | Aug 21 2022 14:38 utc | 27

Significantly, Western reports on the attack lack the usual condemnations and any sign of any kind of empathy. Whoever is behind the assassination, it is clearly a murder that cannot be justified by anything. The Western side is obviously blind to this and is exposing its moral bias.

It is to be hoped that calm blood will be kept in the Moscow leadership circles. Escalation must not become a compulsion. This would help no one and harm everyone.

Posted by: Pnyx | Aug 21 2022 14:42 utc | 28

What a horrible crime, what a tremendous loss. Hope someone will have to pay for it, and soon.

And to think that an attention-seeking whore like Navalny also claims to be the victim of a "horrible crime"...

Very beautiful woman, too. With a religious father she comes with a lot of baggage, however.

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Stephen | Aug 21 2022 14:03 utc | 20

I'm thinking of British involvement, too. Many people here don't get it, but Britain is the leading nation with regard to Ukraine. It's not the US, which has only had incapacitated leadership since 2016.

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Ross | Aug 21 2022 13:11 utc | 3
"The measured approach by the Russian authorities so far has kept the situation from totally escalating. I just hope for the sake of humanity that they can keep their cool in the light of what will be increasing provocations."

Precisely the opposite of what you're saying is true. The Russian "measured approach" is making escalation both possible and inevitable. The provocations won't stop, but will become ever more severe, until Russia puts it's foot down - swiftly, decidedly and where it really hurts. Otherwise, given the level of recklessness and lunacy in the West, it's an open-ended process.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 21 2022 14:53 utc | 29

While comprehensively loosing the battle on the ground, OUN/UPA banderites are finally sticking to their favorite mean of action, i.e. terrorism. Is Anyone really surprised ?

Posted by: W | Aug 21 2022 14:54 utc | 30

Was Darya Dugin investigating Bellingcat's Christo Grozev and his connections? If so, could her murder be the response of Bellingcat's state sponsors?

With the shelling of funeral parties, the shootings and bombings of officials and the poisoning of soldiers, it looks like death squads, controlled by CIA employees, are now in operation.

Posted by: cirsium | Aug 21 2022 14:56 utc | 31

@Posted by: cirsium | Aug 21 2022 14:56 utc | 32

But she was driving his father´s car really, for whatever reason they both interchanged their own cars to reutrn from that event...

Thus, unless the perpetrators had a crystall ball to know this would happen, the target was the father, Dugin...

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Aug 21 2022 15:03 utc | 32

It wasn’t the wrong target. Father and daughter were supposed to ride together so they were fine on killing her along with him.

Posted by: MEI | Aug 21 2022 15:04 utc | 33

In case you were wondering 'Darya' is a Persian female name. It means Ocean.

The Ocean plays a significant symbolic role in Persian prose and poetry. With its depth and breadth, and it's life-giving capacity it is a subtle symbol of the Higher Power.

Posted by: Ali | Aug 21 2022 14:35 utc | 27

Thank you. Dari is one of the languages there too? A dialect of Persian? Is there some connection to the symbolic role perhaps?

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 21 2022 15:06 utc | 34

The two leading regimes for political assassinations are US regime and Israel , in this case obviously the fingers will be pointed at US regardless who the real responsible party is. US/ Western politicians / thinkers and their family should be very careful as IMO this has changed the rule of the game from now on. Western desperation for keeping their so called rule based order has become a rule less war at any cost with anyone .

Posted by: Kooshy | Aug 21 2022 15:10 utc | 35

You are being lied to about the Dugins.

1: The claim that they're nazis is not true. The "National Bolshevyks are a tiny fringe party that no one would even notice if it wasn't for the fact that they are exploited by Western MSM propaganda. The "Nazbols" furthermore have a long history of opposing Putin, which the west conveniently ignores as they simultaneously claim Dugin to be "Rasputin reincarnated".

2: Dugin has zero influence in the Russian intelligentsia, liberal or otherwise. Mainly because he has next to nothing interesting to say (from my perspective - but I'll admit I stopped looking rather quickly). He has nostalgia for both the Russian empire and the Soviet Union. He wants the eastern slavs to be reunited, and he wants the political hybrid mix that takes what he considers the best parts of the different eras Russia went through. This is not the kind of nationalism with superiority complex over lesser peoples that Westerners and their pet insurgents espouse. Dugin is of course read by people with similar ideas, but neither his target audience nor he himself are the kind of nutjob radical they are presented as.

3: Dugin has zero influence on Putin or the Russian government. His calls in August 2014 for an end of talks as a reaction to the Odessa massacre led to him being sacked from his university job. He does not have state employment, nor has his vision been shared by the Russian leadership, which tended to focus on liberal policies (both economically and otherwise). As such his ideology does not overlap significantly with that of the Russian government.

4: You will have a hard time avoiding all the state run or at least state+twitter sanctioned war monger twatters that call the death of his daughter "karma" for him having demanded to "kill, kill, kill all Ukrainians".
This is a lie. The clip that is usually featured with it is 7 seconds long and ripped out of context, and if that wasn't bad enough, they go even further and change it. He doesn't mention Ukrainians in that sentence. Ukrainians are, however, mentioned repeatedly in the context that they deliberately cut out. Things he said include:
>Ukrainians are a great Slavonic people
>Dugin points out his own family has Ukrainian origins and comes from Poltava
>He specifically talks about the Kievan regime in the context of the Odessa massacre.
>He considers the criminals and the junta a stain on his own blood. These are the people he wants the talks to end with, and whom he very emotionally demands to "kill, kill, kill". Anyone who's seen the footage of the Odessa massacre will have a hard time to disagree.
>He wants that the Ukrainians themselves rise up against the regime.

You can see & hear the quote with the context (2mins50secs) here: https://youtu.be/dwgn3JGNrUo
Once more the reminder that he was sacked for this and that the Russian political establishment instead went and had even more talks with the junta. All agreements were broken by the west and its puppet regime as per usual. And in spite of his emotionality he was far less "spicy" than all the twatters praising the murder of his daughter for his wrong think as "karma".

Posted by: JS | Aug 21 2022 15:15 utc | 36

This is a tragedy for the Dugin family - but in the big scheme of things it’s has no long term significance. She was a soft target.

Mark Sleboda description of Mr Dugin having almost zero significance politically is true. He comes over as a nutcase- too extreme.

How many people have the Ukrainians assassinated in the 8 years - Givi, Motorola and Zackarchenko - all killed but the fight went on. They were truly hero’s and much mourned - their killings stiffened the backs of the fighters in Donbass

People need to get a sense of proportion about a person 99% of us never knew about until she was killed.

It’s a personal tragedy for the family may she rest in peace.

Posted by: James2 | Aug 21 2022 15:15 utc | 37

One more thing that needs to be pointed out: Darya was with a high likelihood also a target and not an accidental collateral. Whoever planted the bomb, knew in advance that Dugin was going to that festival. Knowing this the murderers also very likely knew that his daughter was also attending. The murderers missed out on Aleksandr, but they succeeded with the secondary target.

Posted by: JS | Aug 21 2022 15:20 utc | 38

The key info is when was the bomb placed? Did someone place it at the event or days before? A bomb placed in Russia looks like a bigger operation than the previous car explosions or poisonings in Donbass.
Anyway, the fact that they don't have any protection is very bad. Those people are walking targets. Contrary to Russia's strategy, everyone else on the planet targets leaders first. Why zero security?

We'll have to see what happens between 22 and 26 August. All Kiev government nazis were sent to work at home between those dates.

Posted by: rk | Aug 21 2022 15:23 utc | 39

gottlieb @ 25
Will wait to see what Russian law enforcement says about the evidence.

Zerohedge had picture of a bunch of military guys picking thru the small pieces of the wreckage. I know in the US the military police are terrible murder investigators. The picture may have been a one off, I do not know but I would expect to see professional investigators in civilian clothes.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 21 2022 15:38 utc | 40

(I usually do not allow full copies of other pieces here but this is an exception as its messages are important.)

Strana news, now prohibited in Ukraine, on the incident (machine translation):

90 degrees Putin. How explosions in Crimea and the death of Dugin's daughter can change the situation in Russia

The death of the daughter of one of the main ideologists of the anti-Western course of Russia, Alexander Dugin, caused a great resonance, and not only in Russia.

In the Russian Federation, literally immediately, the version about the “Ukrainian trace” became the main one.

In Ukraine, this was denied. Mikhail Podolyak, adviser to the head of the President's Office, called the murder of Daria Dugina the result of "a struggle between various political groups in Russia" in order to increase "ideological information pressure on Russian society" against Ukraine and in order to "internal ideological space in Russia itself become even more ultra-radical."

Meanwhile, the death of Dugin's daughter has become part of a chain of other events that could affect the situation in Russia itself and the course of the war in Ukraine.

Approximately 10 hours before the explosion of the car with Daria Dugin, Alexander Dugin himself published a rather harsh and critical message in relation to the Russian authorities in his telegram channel.

It was caused by the news about the next explosions in the Crimea, but taking into account the subsequent death of Daria Dugina, the text looks even more revealing.

We quote this message in full:

“I believe that the status quo regime in Russia can theoretically last no longer than 6 months. The desperate resistance of the Atlanto-Nazi regime in Kyiv demands from Russia significant - cardinal - internal transformations. Structural, ideological, personnel, institutional, strategic.

That which is acceptable without an NWO [= Special Military Operation], in the conditions of an NWO - and especially a long one that is not going to end - is not acceptable.

Increasing attacks on Crimea, attempts to arrange a nuclear explosion in Zaporozhye, declarations of a counter-offensive on Kherson, Zelensky’s firm refusal to compromise, the West’s persistence in cutting off all ties with Russia – all these are signs that they decided to stand on the other end to the end . They can be understood: Russia actually (and this is not propaganda) challenged the West as a civilization.

So we have to go all the way.

The Supreme Commander-in-Chief said: we haven't really started anything yet. Now we have to start. You want - you don't want - but you have to.

For the first 6 months we were able - and this is a fact - to conduct the NWO without fundamentally changing anything in Russia itself. So far, the changes are cosmetic, and even completely inappropriate and useless elections have been decided to be held according to the schedule. As if nothing is happening. But it's actually happening.

The maximum comfort mode (adjusted for emergency conditions) and the preservation of the old system - "war through a dream" - will have to be canceled at some point.

It seems to me that with the beginning of autumn, this awareness of the need to transfer the country to a new track will be quite clear.

It will take another six months to realize the “irreversibility of the irreversible” and the inertial continuation of the old.

And there is not far and February 24, 2023.

I can understand that the authorities have been used to ruling the way they rule - more or less effectively - for 22 years. But that period is in the past. SVO has already changed everything. Now the question is not whether the government wants or does not want change. And it is precisely patriotic - conservative-revolutionary, if you like. Such changes are simply inevitable - even if you stand to death against their beginning, it will be possible to delay it for no more than six months. And then they will come anyway.

SVO is now more important than power - in its subjective dimension. With the beginning of the SVO, the regime of history itself changed irreversibly: a new ontological vector appeared that cannot be dissolved by arbitrariness or decree. The mighty forces of history have come into play, the tectonic plates have shifted.

Let the old regime bury its dead. A new Russian time is coming. Relentlessly."

Approximately in this spirit, many Russian telegram channels and bloggers who support the "special operation" began to comment on the death of Darya Dugina, blaming Ukraine for it unequivocally and urging "to go to the end."

And it was in this form that they commented on the strikes on the Crimea, as well as on objects on the territory of Russia.

And with them, as Strana already wrote, there are many oddities. In addition to obvious explosions (an airfield near Sak, an ammunition depot near Dzhankoy), there were also a lot of fake reports.

But, interestingly, they began to spread not through the Ukrainian media (which would have been natural during the war), but through the Russian ones. And then they were actively picked up by the resources supporting the "special operation" and with the message already mentioned above "it's time to stop waging a" war through a dream ". Such an inflating of anxious, and even panic, moods during the war by the forces that support it looks strange.

Unless we assume that this is part of a broad campaign to justify some impending tough decisions by the Russian authorities both in relation to Ukraine and in domestic politics.

Or, which is also likely, to push the Russian authorities and Putin personally to such decisions.

After all, while the Russian authorities, obviously, have a slightly different concept. Approximately the one Dugin wrote about.
War in the format of a football match

The Kremlin, having started the biggest war in Europe since 1945, does not call it a war and tries to make sure that this war is practically not felt inside the Russian Federation. They try to preserve even purely symbolic signs of "peacetime" - from the holding of elections on September 11 to the "tank biathlon" criticized by Girkin.

As a result, the majority of the population in the Russian Federation now perceives the “special operation” as a football match in which they “cheer for ours”, but they themselves remain in the role of spectators and no one is forcing them to go out to play on the field. “Play”, that is, they fight, only those who are paid money.

This formula of "like a war" is criticized not only by Dugin.

There is also Girkin-Strelkov, who calls "to start fighting for real, for example, to announce mobilization." He also harshly criticizes the actions of the Russian command and the Russian authorities in general on a daily basis. At the same time, living (and by no means underground) in a country where, according to the law on “discrediting the Russian army,” citizens are sentenced even for writing the word “special operation” in quotation marks. And the fact that Girkin-Strelkov is still at large shows that at least some of the “Kremlin towers” ​​consider his thoughts useful.

The question is whether Putin himself considers them useful.

Putin's maneuver

On the one hand, it is difficult to suspect the liberalism of the President of Russia, and earlier he has repeatedly used the topic of various threats to tighten the screws.

On the other hand, the concept of “kind of war” criticized by Dugin and Girkin gives Putin a certain freedom of maneuver. Namely, the opportunity to end the “special operation” at the moment when he wants, declaring any of its results a victory without serious political damage to himself and to the entire system of Russian power.

The degree of possible dissatisfaction with this Russian society should not be exaggerated.

Revealing poll data was recently published, according to which approximately the same number of Russians (about 60%) would support both a new attack on Kyiv (that is, an intensification of the war) and Putin's decision to stop the “special operation”.

If society (mostly) did not question Putin when he started the big war without an obvious casus belli, then it is even less likely (for the most part) to ask questions if he also suddenly stops the war. Especially if this is accompanied by some, from the point of view of the Russians, "profit" - for example, the neutral status of Ukraine or "the growth of the Russian state with new lands."

That is why Putin has so far refrained from taking steps that could bring a sense of war to every Russian family. For example, from the announcement of mobilization. Moreover, the military effect of it is doubtful, and the socio-political one can be extremely negative. And in general, the readiness of the very system of Russian power to transfer the country to the rails of "total war" (and the Russian society to live on these rails) is very doubtful. As well as, in general, the prospects and meaning for Russia of such a "total war".

The phrase Peskov said after the retreat of Russian troops from near Kyiv has already become a classic: “Stalingrad is not on the calendar and should not be, there is no place for emotions.”

But the way the campaign is systematically unfolding on the topic “you need to go to the end, fight for real, change the system of power and internal order to meet the needs of wartime” shows that not everyone in the Kremlin (or near the Kremlin) agrees with Peskov.

"Twist" to 180

Dugin once wrote a text saying that Putin is a person who does everything “at 90 degrees”. That is, half. For example, after Yeltsin he did away with liberalism in domestic politics, but kept it partly in the economy. He annexed the Crimea and created the "LDNR", but did not go further. And now he started a war with Ukraine, but he did not call it a war and did not transfer the country "on a war footing."

And here we return to the main question - whether the current campaign for "total war to a victorious end" is Putin's own sanctioned preparation of Russians for the coming harsh times.

Either this is an attempt by certain forces (for one reason or another) to induce Putin to "turn around" to 180 degrees, and at the same time nullify the likelihood of compromises with Ukraine and the West to end the war.

And in this case, the question is whose arguments will outweigh. Because the current concept of the Kremlin, as it was written above, does not imply "total war". And it assumes the continuation of the “special operation” in the same unhurried format as now, in the expectation that sooner or later a situation will arise when the results of the “special operation” can be recorded at least at the level of a truce or even some kind of big agreement. After that, and announce its "victorious completion."

Nevertheless, statements about "failures in air defense and the defense of Crimea" and "about the war already on the territory of Russia" within the framework of this concept are attributed to inflating panic, and even to "working for the enemies of Russia."

However, one way or another, the Russian authorities will probably react to the flow of events with explosions and to the demands to "start fighting for real." But it is possible that the traditional 90 degrees: they will not announce any mobilizations, but they will announce missile strikes “on decision-making centers”, they will tighten the screws in domestic politics and further strengthen the control of special services over many processes.

Posted by: b | Aug 21 2022 15:45 utc | 41

cirsium @ 32
With the shelling of funeral parties, the shootings and bombings of officials and the poisoning of soldiers, it looks like death squads, controlled by CIA employees, are now in operation.

I agree. I also noticed that the attacks on Crimea coincides with the opening of the grain passage. I wonder if the ships are being used as a platform? The British were famous for training such teams in WWII

gottlieb @ 25
Will wait to see what Russian law enforcement says about the evidence.
Zerohedge had a picture of a bunch of military guys picking through small pieces of the wreckage. In the US the military police are poor murder investigators. I thought that strange and would expect to see investigators in civilian clothes. The picture may have been a one off.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 21 2022 15:47 utc | 42

https://t.me/ASupersharij/10688?single

Old photoes of Dugin giving a presser together with Dmitro Korchinsky, chief of Santa Maria batallion and thinker/activist behind Ukrainian nationalism.

If Dugin is somehow Putin's teacher, then by same logic he also is Zelensky's teacher and shadow leader of EuroMaidan

Posted by: Arioch | Aug 21 2022 15:48 utc | 43

What is the name of his telegram channel? Let's see if he posted that message before quoting Ukro media

Posted by: rk | Aug 21 2022 15:50 utc | 44

re: Dugin's "Increasing attacks on Crimea. ."
from ISW
Recent Ukrainian strikes on Russian military and transportation infrastructure in Crimea and Kherson Oblast are likely reducing Russian confidence in the security of Russian rear areas. Reports from August 18 about Ukrainian strikes are affecting the Russian information space despite the fact that these reports were likely overblown. Available open-source evidence indicates that Ukrainian forces did not conduct a successful kinetic attack against either the Stary Oskol Air Base in Belgorod or Belbek Air Base in Crimea on August 18. . .here
More recently was a drone falling on the roof, and catching fire, of the Russian Black Sea Fleet Headquarters building in Sevastopol on August 20.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 21 2022 15:56 utc | 45

b @ 42
Voltage leads current in an AC waveform so operating in 90 degrees may be the smart thing to do in this situation. The real work starts when the current catches up. Everything is a cycle.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 21 2022 15:58 utc | 46

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington; 30

Precisely the opposite of what you're saying is true. The Russian "measured approach" is making escalation both possible and inevitable. The provocations won't stop, but will become ever more severe, until Russia puts it's foot down - swiftly, decidedly and where it really hurts. Otherwise, given the level of recklessness and lunacy in the West, it's an open-ended process.

I understand the reasoning behind the "measured approach", the "tit for tat" like responses by Russia - however I'm of the opinion that peace cannot be talked into someone, it is something one must desire or yearn for since birth. The constant deaths of civilians and soldiers alike are saddening to watch - they ask the question if it's an inevitability, one that Russia does try to keep to minimum, but in the face of a being such as the collective "West" and the many psychopaths running the show...

On the other hand, I assume we're all aware of what a more 'direct' response may result in. I'm wondering if Russia hopes to exhaust most of the "all-out-war prevention" measures and end the operation before then, or if they refuse to deliver what certain members of the human race desperately cry for every day since the beginning of the SMO. (assuming that an AOW is now inevitable..)

Then I also wonder about the significance of an attempt to meet both 'extreme ends' somewhere in the middle, such as increasing the number of deployed military equipment - but for what purpose? Russia is doing well enough with what they have now - the difficulty of eliminating long range systems used by Ukraine to shell civilians does not lie in being unable to bombard the entire country with missiles, but in being precise enough as to not kill any more than what is necessary.

I am curious about the extent to which a human being can twist and corrupt it's own mind. This assassination is just another tragic act of such minds, conspiring, somewhere.
I do not want humanity to suffer as a collective. I do want people to recognize that some of those which they perceive as their own have long since forgotten the moral code of a human being - and that there is only one way out for such beings.

Posted by: Arctaroll | Aug 21 2022 16:09 utc | 47

b - thanks.... @ Кавказ | Aug 21 2022 14:23 utc | 23 posted some of your data @ 41 earlier...

i am sorry this has happened, but as @ Kooshy | Aug 21 2022 15:10 utc | 35 notes - this is the type of behaviour we have come to know of usa-israel...

unfortunately all i can see here is a ramping up of more of the same... no off exit anywhere... just as the west wishes... we are in for a rough ride.. it is only going to get worse.. i wish it wasn't so..

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2022 16:16 utc | 48

Well, what can be said. Those who celebrate and cheer on the "denazification" of a society by force can see what it looks like and decide if they really like it. It seems sad and ugly to me. The crocodile tears from people who excuse with outright lies and propaganda the shooting down of airliners, blowing up of malls and cluster bombing of bread lines, we can do without.

Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 21 2022 16:18 utc | 49

circumspect | Aug 21 2022 15:47 utc | 42

That's the investigative committee of Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigative_Committee_of_Russia

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2022 16:19 utc | 50

it isn't lost on some that those countries that claim to want to address and stop terrorism, are directly responsible for terrorism.. - usa-israel..

and yes - lies and propaganda are also a key part of the package... after reading Flight Mh17, Ukraine and the New Cold War : Prism of Disaster by Kees van der Pijl, it is apparent this is the basis for usa foreign policy and has been for some time...

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2022 16:24 utc | 51

@Yenwoda | Aug 21 2022 16:18 utc | 49
You are such a piece of filth and shit, you should be ashamed. But I fear you are not able to.

Posted by: aquadraht | Aug 21 2022 16:26 utc | 52

@ Ali | Aug 21 2022 14:35 utc | 27

@ Bemildred | Aug 21 2022 15:06 utc | 34

The slavic word for gift is "dar"

Darya is the feminine name given as the embodiment of a 'gift' from god, or a gift to the parents and by extension the world.

Posted by: Spinworthy | Aug 21 2022 16:29 utc | 53

Darya is the feminine name given as the embodiment of a 'gift' from god, or a gift to the parents and by extension the world.

Posted by: Spinworthy | Aug 21 2022 16:29 utc | 53

Thank you, that is a good name. I was interested in the Persian, and I assumed it meant something different in Russian. Idle curiosity in any case. But thanks again.

It is fascinating how you can just throw out a question here and expect to get answers. No google needed.

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 21 2022 16:36 utc | 54

Public assasinations are almost always politically motivated. Children (grown or otherwise) are often targeted as warnings to heads of families or sponsors of families who have influence over the public.
Regardless of who was responsible, this was an act of evil. The young woman should not have been murdered. Condolences to her family and loved ones. Peace unto her soul.

Posted by: Josh | Aug 21 2022 16:36 utc | 55

Alex Christoforou on the assasination of Darya Dugina

Darya Dugina. Portugal & Cyprus oppose travel ban. Siemens Spotify playlist, pathetic. Update 1
https://t.me/thedurancom/12345

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 21 2022 16:49 utc | 56

Boris Roshin reports that a day before the assassination, the Ukrainian TV channel "1+1", in its TV program "Groshy" showed a story dedicated to Alexander Dugin. In the plot, they call Dugin Putin's brain, the ideologue of Russian civilization and the fact that he controls Putin. https://t.me/boris_rozhin/61042

Roshin concludes that there is no coincidence. I tend to agree. Yet, I do not think that such an assassination has been planned, prepared, and committed by the SBU or GUR alone. The tactics very much resemble the "strategy of tension" by Gladio groups in Italy, Turkey, Greece, and other countries in the 1980s. And tailing Dugin, figuring a location and an opportunity for the terror attack is something which may be above the Ukrofascists alone.

Posted by: aquadraht | Aug 21 2022 17:08 utc | 57

Some interesting post from the voice or mordor vk account.

https://vk.com/spacelordrock
I managed to screen it before it was deleted.
Sometimes it happens when personal correspondence gets into the channel by mistake. This is the Ukrainian TV channel "Politika Strany". Apparently, someone is asking to unearth photos from a very old event in Moscow, which was attended by both Dugin and Arestovich.

Arestovich was then a sworn associate of a Ukrainian nationalist who was actively fighting for the unity of the Slavs. It seems to be Korchinsky. Such a comical character, a blond man with an oseledets and a drooping mustache.

Regarding the photo of Dugin with Arestovich — Dugin remained true to his ideas, but Arestovich and Korchinsky betrayed them, turned out to be prostitutes.
And the publication "Strana" has long been considered almost pro-Russian in Ukraine. Read it now. But the fact that they force the topic with this photo suggests that the guys are participating in a big intra-Ukrainian political game, and clearly not on the side of the authorities, since they are deliberately drowning Arestovich. Most likely, now they are backed by some oligarch who wants to become the Kievan princes.

Rusya Gaverdovsky
In connection with the death of the daughter of the well-known Russian ideologist of "Eurasianism" Alexander Dugin, social networks recalled his connections with some Ukrainian figures.

So, they actively publish photos from a press conference in 2005, where Dugin, the leader of the Brotherhood party Dmitry Korchinsky and his then deputy Alexey Arestovich sit together at the same table.

This event really took place. They discussed joint actions of Ukrainian and Russian anti-Maidan forces (it was after the Orange Maidan). Korchinsky then, as is known, was an ardent anti-Maidan activist. As, apparently, is Arestovich.

At a press conference, Arestovich then stated that the West "will not allow Ukrainians to preserve their culture", but instead will start reprivatizing strategically important facilities ("factories will pass to the power of Washington and Brussels").

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2022 17:21 utc | 58

Dar = gift in Slavic.

Dar must be derived from Latin as it is the verb "to give" in Spanish.

Dugin = the surname of the father. The daughter's surname is Dugina.

This is what is done in Russia (perhaps other places) The female offspring gets a "a" at the end of the family surname. Goncharov becomes Goncharova, etc.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Aug 21 2022 17:35 utc | 59

So, was this some kind of reply to a likely message from Putin to Zelensky via Erdogan in Lvov recently? As we remember, Erdogan was earlier i Sochi to see Putin.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 21 2022 17:41 utc | 60

May God accept her soul and forgive her for any sins and shortcomings.
May He comfort the hearts of her father and other family members.
May this evil act rebound a thousand fold on the perpetrators.
I suspect that this will steel the will of Russia in the existential fight it faces.

Posted by: Bilaal | Aug 21 2022 17:42 utc | 61

i wouldn't consider dugin similar in any way, but his treatment by western press and now this assholeish assassination attempt reminds me of rasputin. i also can't help but be reminded of the same idiot stenographers "informing" us that bannon was heavily influenced by evola when he obviously hasn't read a single page of the latter's work. of course neither did they but that's how these idiots work. just make shit up and get someone killed.

it says a lot that after 8+ years of NATO/CIA "training" all these dumbasses can do is make car bombs. y'know, the same tactic used by teenagers in iraq who taped some C4 to a burner phone and speed dialed some traumatic brain injury for the heavily armored "coalition" forces.

and of course it's another sign of the western war on ideas. at one end of the spectrum you have twitter bans and at the other you have daughters killed because their dad said something a few years ago.

Posted by: the pair | Aug 21 2022 17:45 utc | 62

I'm unsure this attack was necessary a strike against Putin, as awful and sad as it is, because it seemed that the Kremlin also hated Dugin. Its very odd they had him barred from the University of Moscow and the Russian media, its not just the West that seems to hate Dugin.

Posted by: John | Aug 21 2022 17:46 utc | 63

This attribution wasn't on my bingo card... doesn't actually sound very credible but who knows

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1561405112295165957

Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 21 2022 17:46 utc | 64

Pepe Escobar has his combo eulogy analysis published at SCF, which many can't access. I trust b will indulge me as I copy/paste it here for all to access. The analysis Pepe presents I agree with; and as you'll read, this act represents the opening of a new act in our drama:

Darya Dugina, 30, daughter of Alexander Dugin, a smart, strong, ebullient, enterprising young woman, whom I met in Moscow and had the honor to cherish as a friend, has been brutally murdered.

As a young journalist and analyst, one could see she would carve for herself a glowing path towards wide recognition and respect (here she is on feminism).

Not so long ago, the FSB was directly engaged in smashing assassination attempts, organized by the SBU, against Russian journalists, as in the case of Olga Skabaeyeva and Vladimir Soloviev. It’s mind-boggling that Dugin and his family were not protected by the Russian intelligence/security apparatus.

The key facts of the tragedy have already been established. A Land Cruiser Prado SUV, owned by Dugin and with Darya at the wheel, exploded in a highway near the village of Bolchie Vyazemy, a little over 20km away from Moscow.

They were both coming from a family festival, where Dugin had delivered a talk. At the last minute, Darya took the SUV and Dugin followed her in another car. According to eyewitnesses, there was an explosion under the SUV, which was immediately engulfed in flames and hit a roadside building. Darya’s body was burned beyond recognition.

The Russian Investigative Committee soon established that the IED – approximately 400g of TNT, unencapsulated – was planted under the bottom of the SUV, on the driver’s side.

The investigators consider that was a premeditated car bombing.

What is not already known is whether the IED was on a timer or if some goon nearby pressed the button.

What is already known is that Alexander Dugin was a target on the Myrotvorets list. Myrotvorets stands for a Center for Research of Signs of Crimes against the National Security of Ukraine. It works side by side with NATO collecting info on “pro-Russian terrorists and separatists”.

Denis Pushilin, the head of the DPR, took no time to accuse “the terrorists of the Ukrainian regime” for Darya’s assassination. The inestimable Maria Zakharova was more, well, diplomatic: she said that if the Ukrainian lead is confirmed, that will configure a policy of state terrorism deployed by Kiev.

An existential war

In several essays – this one being arguably the most essential – Dugin had made extensively clear the enormity of the stakes. This is a war of ideas. And an existential war: Russia against the collective West led by the United States.

The SBU, NATO, or quite probably the combo – considering the SBU is ordered by the CIA and MI6 – did not choose to attack Putin, Lavrov, Patrushev or Shoigu. They targeted a philosopher and ended up murdering his daughter – making it even more painful. They attacked an intellectual who formulates ideas. Proving once again that Western Cancel Culture seamlessly metastasizes into Cancel Person.

It’s fine and dandy that the Russian Ministry of Defense is about to start the production of the hypersonic Mr. Zircon as it continues to churn out plenty of Mr. Khinzals. Or that three Mig-31 supersonic interceptors have been deployed to Kaliningrad equipped with Khinzals and placed on combat duty 24/7.

The problem is the rules have changed – and the SBU/NATO combo, facing an indescribable debacle in Donbass, is upping the sabotage, counter-intel and counter-diversionary dial.

They started by shelling Russian territory; spread out around Donbass – as in the attempt to kill the mayor of Mariupol, Konstantin Ivachtchenko; even launched drones against the HQ of the Black Sea Fleet in Sebastopol; and now – with the Darya Dugina tragedy – are on the gates of Moscow.

The point is not that all of the above is irrelevant in terms of changing the facts on the ground imposed by the Special Military Operation. The point is that an upcoming series of bloody psyops designed for pure PR effect can become extremely painful for Russian public opinion – which will demand devastating punishment.

It’s clear that Moscow and St. Petersburg are now prime targets. The Ukrainian ISIS is a go. Of course, their handlers have vast experience on the matter, across the Global North/South. All red lines are gone.

The coming of the Ukrainian ISIS

The cokehead comedian has duly pre-empted any Russian reaction, according to the NATO script he’s fed on a daily basis: Russia may try to do something “particularly disgusting” this coming week.

That’s irrelevant. The real – burning – question is to what extent the Kremlin and Russian intel will react when it’s fully established SBU/NATO concocted the Dugin plot. That’s Kiev terrorism at the gates of Moscow. That screams “red line” in bloody red, and a response tied to the reiterated promise, by Putin himself, of hitting “decision centers”.

It will be a fateful decision. Moscow is not at war with the Kiev puppets, essentially – but with NATO. And vice-versa. All bets are off on how the tragedy of Darya Dugina may eventually accelerate the Russian timetable, in terms of a radical revision of their so far long-term strategy.

Moscow can decapitate the Kiev racket with a few hypersonic business cards. Yet that’s too easy; afterwards, who to negotiate the future of rump Ukraine with?

In contrast, doing essentially nothing means accepting an imminent, de facto terrorist invasion of the Russian Federation: the Darya Dugina tragedy on steroids.

In his next before last post on Telegram, Dugin once again framed the stakes. These are the key takeaways.

He calls for “structural, ideological, personnel, institutional, strategic” transformations by the Russian leadership.

Drawing from the evidence – from the increased attacks on Crimea to the attempts to provoke a nuclear catastrophe in Zaporozhye – he correctly concludes that the NATO sphere has “decided to stand on the other end to the end. They can be understood: Russia actually (and this is not propaganda) challenged the West as a civilization.”

The conclusion is stark: “So we have to go all the way”. That ties in with what Putin himself asserted: “We haven’t really started anything yet.” Dugin: “Now we have to start.”

Dugin proposes that the current status quo around Operation Z cannot last for more than six months. There’s no question “the tectonic plates have shifted”. Darya Dugina will be flying like an eagle in an otherworldly sky. The question is whether her tragedy will become the catalyst to propel Putin’s strategic ambiguity to a whole new level.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 21 2022 17:47 utc | 65

She's adorable, and she loved her daddy. She's another propaganda disaster for the putsch.

Posted by: Martin Brock | Aug 21 2022 17:50 utc | 66

Putin killed her. It's another false flag.

Posted by: Martin Brock | Aug 21 2022 17:51 utc | 67

Most likely it's the micro-brits and their filthy / terrorist organization, MI6 who are behind this murder. The news lately was that the yanks wanted _elenski to go to Indonesia to meet with Putin, which, if happened, might pave the way towards some sort of settlement. Micro-brits on the other hand want a perpetual war to weaken Russia and Germany / Europe in the process. By murdering an innocent daughter of a prominent public figure like Dugin micro-brits they pretty much made it impossible for Putin to even contemplate any meeting with _elenski.

Posted by: RockTime | Aug 21 2022 18:08 utc | 68

The combined Strana report provided by b and that by Escobar present what IMO is a logical sequence to what will happen next, which is what I alluded to in my essays about the fall of the plundering nations and how to overcome that legacy. No more room for cunning traps like the one I presumed to be laid around the ZNPP. However, I don't think it's correct to lay the "90 degree" behavior at Putin's feet alone as the security committee is just that, a committee. But before I go further, I'll read what other barflies have written now that they've had time to process Pepe's article.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 21 2022 18:10 utc | 69

thank you b for posting dugan's telegram post & allowing karlof1 to post pepe's essay for SC, thank you, karlof1, for continuing to aid those unable to access SC & for endeavouring to counter the censors protecting our canadian nazi regime. i was especially taken with dugan's telegram post. perhaps i've misread it bt it seems to undermine in an unappreciative way the path putin & his team have so masterfully crafted. as in all wars, preparation is crucial. it is imperative to act with purpose & in a timely fashion, russia now can withstand the economic slaughter the empire of lies is trying to wield, russia now can also defend herself & her allies with weapons the west can barely comprend. this was not possible five or ten years ago. this war, presently an smo bt shortly a full on war, depends on trust & faith. dugan undermined faith. war will bring with it the need for hot blooded duels bt it is necessary to victory to remain always level headed & far seeing.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Aug 21 2022 18:11 utc | 70

Looks like both were targeted

https://ok.ru/nksuverenitet/topic/155122752214343
The daughter of philosopher Alexander Dugin was under UK sanctions❗In her Telegram channel, Daria Dugina raised the topic of Bellingcat and Hristo Grozev, who works for it. Daria Dugina was returning from the Tradition festival, patronized by Zakhar Prilepin. According to violinist Peter Lundstrom, Alexander Dugin planned to go with his daughter, but left in another car.

Apparently her name was also on her fathers page at the Myrotvorets site and she had a bit of involvement in Donbas. Her telegram channel https://t.me/s/dplatonova

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2022 18:27 utc | 71

Smells like an inside job to me. No way Russian security is this inept. In terms of communication surveillance I mean. Dude probably has plenty enemies in Russia.

Posted by: Comandante | Aug 21 2022 18:31 utc | 72

Anti-Spiegel has its own obituary (in German)

Junge russische Journalistin ermordet: Steckt die Ukraine dahinter?
https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2022/junge-russische-journalistin-ermordet-steckt-die-ukraine-dahinter/

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Aug 21 2022 18:32 utc | 73

Peter AU1 @ 50

I see now. Military Intelligence has an on the ground role in investigations. They may be fulfilling a role like our ATF. Frankly, with social media it is easy to follow these types around as it adds to their celebrity status and their income. More of them in that case are bound to be taken out.

I am no celebrity but I learned as a small child some things that I apply to days world. Turn the cell phone off when you are traveling, take different routes to standard locations always, when working against the system never take credit for your work, choose your battles carefully, never talk to the feds but if you must use email so you have a record, be aware of your surroundings, understand the methodology of surveillance, be well read and that is understand the system to the finest degree possible, be wary of new friends who ask lots of questions, be wary of new friends who seem to know your tastes and methods.

Its just a short list that I live by and use always.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 21 2022 18:46 utc | 74

"Western media has painted Dugin as a driving force behind President Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy over the past decade."

In other words, the 'western media' are accessories before the fact to this murder charge.

Posted by: Good Fellas | Aug 21 2022 18:49 utc | 75

More Russian men will now volunteer to fight in Ukraine.
Posted by: Martin | Aug 21 2022 13:24 utc | 7

CUI BONO ?

- The only eyewitness about what happened is Alexander Dugin himself. Because they left the meeting 10 minutes before the bulk of peoples who attended the meeting.
- the body is charred up to the point it is not recognizable
- the car is destroyed up to the point its numbers are unrecongnizable.
- She had been previously used to live under a pseudo name

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 21 2022 19:01 utc | 76

Perhaps Western propaganda is also to blame for the murder of this very special person.
Disgusting and backward is what drama and lies created. What a lovely person she was…

Posted by: Karin | Aug 21 2022 19:22 utc | 77

SVO is now more important than power - in its subjective dimension. With the beginning of the SVO, the regime of history itself changed irreversibly: a new ontological vector appeared that cannot be dissolved by arbitrariness or decree. The mighty forces of history have come into play, the tectonic plates have shifted. Let the old regime bury its dead. A new Russian time is coming. Relentlessly. “Неумолимо.”

Source: https://t.me/Agdchan/6891
Posted by: Кавказ | Aug 21 2022 14:23 utc | 23

Thank you for posting Dugin's recent speech. But I want to hear more. He states that a 'new ontological vector' has appeared and that substantive, sweeping changes are needed in Russia. But he doesn't in any way describe what sort of changes he is envisaging. Does anybody know?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

If the daughter was the intended target, then it looks like:
The BellinCAT has claws!

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 21 2022 19:35 utc | 78

b @ 42
Voltage leads current in an AC waveform ...

True if the load is inductive.
Current leads voltage if the load is capacitive.
Voltage and current are in phase if the load is completely resisitive.

Posted by: spudski | Aug 21 2022 19:36 utc | 79

Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 21 2022 16:18 utc | 49

First, I will state that I do not know who is responsible for the murder of Darya Dugin...nobody knows...yet. Arguments can be made for this being planned by Ukrainians/NATO types or something with a Russian origin. I will wait to see if enough verifiable facts come to light to allow me to draw a conclusion. You seem to be ok with the killing even implying that its of Ukrainian origin...or am I misinterpreting your comment?

Also, 'denazification' is not the same as targeted assassination. I agree that any civilian who has been directly targeted and killed by Russian forces would be a horrible war crime. This is true for any time a civilian is killed purposefully by any government or group. I would also agree that any civilian who is indirectly killed by being in proximity to legitimate military targets is a tragedy with possible war crime implications depending on the facts. However, a terrorist bombing, far away from the battlefields, with a civilian as the target, is simply murder...apparently ok with you, right? Chickens coming home to roost, right?

yenwoda, can you provide an honest answer about your nationality? I'm wondering what skin you have in this game. Are you simply a neo-liberal, neo-con in America or Europe who supports NATO foreign policy and wants to continue expanding western hegemony - perhaps a true believer - unpaid or paid poster? Are you a Ukrainian patriot who supports the current Ukrainian government in what you think is a war for your own preservation? Are you a western-leaning Russian who wants 'regime change' in your own country? Are you from a country not directly connected to this conflict in any way? Just curious.

I am an independent citizen of the United States who is anti-war, and more specifically, anti-American foreign policy and neo-imperialism. I do not have any control over any other government and remain mostly agnostic about international foreign conflicts, except for trying to find out the role of my government in fomenting and creating conflicts all over the world. The historical record often implicates my government in all sorts of illegal treachery (by illegal, I mean controverting the known tenets of international law) - I won't list them all here. My skin in this game is that my government has been actively working to cause 'regime change' in the USSR and Russia for decades. This is illegal under international law. My government has throughout its history acted in ways that directly contradict its stated goals of supporting democracy. I oppose these actions. I also believe that although I do not have much direct control over the actions of my government, I am responsible for what my government has done, is doing, and will do (I even take this responsibility back throughout history and believe my government, thus its citizens, are responsible for figuring out ways to right the wrongs that have been done via direct and explicit government policies).

My government made an explicit agreement not to expand NATO to the east. My government broke that agreement and that is the genesis of this whole sordid affair in the Ukraine. My government has been planning covert, resistance and special forces actions in Ukraine since the 1950's - perhaps you've clicked on some of the links I have posted to CIA documents proving this. Perhaps you are of the old-school, anti-Communist variety that supported every US policy that put dictators in power to kill their own people and exploit resources in order to support American free markets and democracy (ironically even when it undermined actual democracy and freedom in those countries). If so, I disagree with this policy position as being antithetical to the stated idea of sovereignty and self-determination that are supposed to be core American beliefs. It is immoral and unethical. But power and money are more important than principles, right? Perhaps, as others in the US believe, you support the idea that it is OK to break agreements with other countries whenever it suits American interests. If so, your beliefs are more responsible for Russia's decision to invade Ukraine than you would like to admit. Perhaps you believe, as former Ambassador Michael McFaul and former CIA director Pompeo do, that it is ok to lie about foreign policy to our friends and foes alike. Well, there's not much to talk about if 'might makes right' and 'ends justify means'...because if that is what you believe then you must think it is ok for Russia to invade Ukraine. Russia protested about NATO expansion and the abrogations and withdrawals from treaties by the US. Russia signed the Minsk agreements which were used by Ukraine as a ruse to provide more time to build up its military (if you believe the words of Petro Poroshencko). Russia tried to offer negotiations with the US/NATO/EU in 2021 to create a new security framework that would have prevented this but the West said, "Talk to the hand". Well...Russia, as the US usually does, finally decided that their 'might' will make it 'right' and that the 'ends' of the SMO will justify their 'means'. I don't like that Russia has done this, but I am only an Objective Observer, not the President of a sovereign nation that believes it is protecting its own interests in accordance with international law.

While you say that people on this website "excuse with outright lies and propaganda the shooting down of airliners, blowing up of malls and cluster bombing of bread lines", this is disingenuous. Most people, I would hope this includes yourself, do not believe that when they make opposing arguments that they are lying or basing their arguments on lies.

About MH17 - any investigation which is not full and open to all evidence and does not include all interested parties is not a fair investigation. The cause of the shooting down of the plane was contested from the beginning, but the official investigation made a predetermined choice to 'side' with Ukraine and prevented Russian participation in a fair and open way. This puts the findings of that investigation in a bad light - for anyone who wants to get to the real truth through an open, honest, and full investigation of all the possible facts and interpretations. People who do not support the idea that the 'Russians' shot down the plane, simply disagree with the 'findings of fact' that were produced through an investigation that did not include all interested parties. For me, I don't know what happened, but I can't trust the findings of the 'official' investigations for reasons just cited.

As to the blowing up malls, well, once again, while some people might think it is good that a mall was bombed no matter what, many do not believe the facts show that any mall was intentionally bombed, but was 'collateral damage', or believe that it was bombed because they that facts show that the mall was being used by the Ukrainian military which makes the mall a legitimate military target. There is plenty of evidence showing that the Ukrainian military does this (i.e., using civilian infrastructure for storage and shelter). Some who support the Ukrainian government's choices claim that, basically, 'all is fair in war', but that is not what international law says should be done.

Cluster bombing bread lines - well, if the Russians made a choice to bomb a civilian target with no military value, that is a war crime. However, Russia did not sign the ban on cluster bombs, and neither has the US. So, depending on how you see the facts, which are often murky in war, using cluster bombs, could be illegal (if aimed at civilians) but might not be since Russia is not a signatory to the convention and would argue that it was aiming at military targets. I simply don't know what the truth is.

I can only speak for me - I do not want anyone to be killed in this conflict - soldiers or civilians, Ukrainians or Russians. That said, my government has fomented and encouraged all of the provocations that led to Russia making a decision to invade Ukraine. My government is continuing to support with money, weapons, and logistical support continued warfare. While I do not support the war, I understand why Russia decided to invade Ukraine. While I want there to be an immediate cessation of hostilities, I understand why Russia is making its choices because I understand how my own government operates. While I do not support violence, I have myself been forced into fights no matter how much I tried to avoid them. I feel that my government forced Russia to fight, and I want my government to stop everything it is doing that continues this SMO/war/whatever.

Just wondering...or are you a true believe with skin in the game? Are you just a troll looking to scare up a discord and/or make money?

Posted by: Objective Observer | Aug 21 2022 19:41 utc | 80

Apologies: My post

True if the load is inductive.
Current leads voltage if the load is capacitive.
Voltage and current are in phase if the load is completely resisitive.

Posted by: spudski | Aug 21 2022

refers to the post by circumspect | Aug 21 2022 15:58 utc which begins with

b @ 42
Voltage leads current in an AC waveform ...

and not to the post by our host with the most.

Posted by: spudski | Aug 21 2022 19:47 utc | 81

@b

Stay on track, keep the military operation in full swing, both sides are hurting. Get your defenses up and running. Many drones are being intercepted, strike at the distribution centers of arms and heavy weapons.

A single murder under investigation does not change the battle plan.

In a new phase covert acts of sabotage by collaborators or traitors is predicted, as is more guerrilla warfare. Think Chechnya and Syria. The frontline in Ukraine is quite long and will be the new frontier.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 21 2022 19:48 utc | 82

Re: Objective Observer @80

My compliments … a true Patriot. ☮️

Posted by: Oui | Aug 21 2022 19:52 utc | 83

@ Objective Observer | Aug 21 2022 19:41 utc | 80

yenwoda has stated they are from eastern usa.. my view is they are much younger then i initially thought - probably in their 30's is my guess.. i think you are wasting your time engaging with them.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2022 19:58 utc | 84

FWIW, after reading through and pondering all these intelligent comments, and the article inspiring them, I think some Russian firebrands, working for CIA-MI6, did this murder of Darya Dugina and are connected with recent SOF attacks in Crimea.

I think their purpose is to induce Kremlin decision-makers to materially ramp attacks in Ukraine and elsewhere so that NATO has pretext for entry somewhere(s) on the field against Russian industrial facilities, and/or, Russian society grows cynical and demands negotiation to end fighting against anyone altogether.

In any case, the aim of the murder and attacks is to "weaken" Russia by forcing either wider war or negotiations.

The hope of that aim is forlorn. Moral force in this particular is on the Kremlin decision-makers' side and will remain there as long as NeoNazis aka NeoCons have hands on the levers of power in Washington D.C. An irony of the NeoNazi-NeoCon position is that they lack physical-industrial force to consummate their ambitions against Russians, Christians, and Slavs generally.

By all appearances, the Dugin family are conflicted, even confused, and take themselves for displaced royalty or royalty's preceptor-in-waiting. Since Western media are all CIA-MI6 fronts, we can believe that representation therein of the father as "Putin's brains" and "extreme nationalist" serve the double purpose of goading Putin to rash decisions and sedating Western civilians to accept sorrow and misery as the path to freedom and democracy. Looks-wise, the father reminds me of Rasputin.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Aug 21 2022 20:02 utc | 85

Assassinating an old philosopher is one thing but blowing up a 30 year old who looks for all the world like a normal young European woman is not going to be a propaganda coup. It is cowardly and evil, and it only takes a few in the west with a daughter in their 20s to change their minds about this whole mess. I could well be wrong but it might be the first of many misplayed hands that turns public opinion against Ukraine.

My condolences to Dugin, a terrible thing to lose a child. RIP Dariya.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 21 2022 20:16 utc | 86

@Patroklos | Aug 21 2022 20:16 utc | 86

My condolences to Dugin, a terrible thing to lose a child. RIP Dariya.

My thoughts exactly. I have a daughter of similar age.

It is cowardly and evil, and it only takes a few in the west with a daughter in their 20s to change their minds about this whole mess. I could well be wrong but it might be the first of many misplayed hands that turns public opinion against Ukraine.

Unless we have lost all sight of human dignity, you are of course right. This is a propaganda disaster for the supporters of the Kiev regime and for the west who probably masterminded this.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 21 2022 20:33 utc | 87

Re: Patroklos @86

Leading to war for over a decade, propaganda as tool for dehumanization of the enemy. First step to genocide, killing innocents for faint political goals. The Obama years and drone strikes as example ... targeting US citizens in Yemen. Both preacher Anwar al-Awlaki and his son ... over three years and multuiple missers, over a hundred civilians were murdered before HRC could exclaim: "gotcha".

In December 2009 three attempts were executed. Damaged missile parts sections were identified of a BGM-109D Tomahawk land-attack cruise missile, designed to carry a payload of 166 cluster submunitions (bomblets) which each explode into over 200 sharp steel fragments that can cause injuries up to 150m away. No holds barred, no Geneva Convention will defer America. Exceptionalism.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 21 2022 20:39 utc | 88

@ Patroklos | Aug 21 2022 20:16 utc | 86

i agree with you on all accounts... i think this means the western msm will mostly keep it out of the news cycle, or downplay it... this event has to stay off the news..

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2022 20:39 utc | 89

From the link provided by b
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1800/RR1826/RAND_RR1826.pdf
on pg 81
'China poses a threat to Russia, so Dugin recommends seeking
assistance from Korea, Vietnam, India, and Japan to ensure the
“territorial disintegration, splintering and the political and administrative partition of the [Chinese] state.” '

Really doesn't suggest that Putin and the rest of the Russian government takes any notice of Dugin and the US knows it.

Posted by: Iain | Aug 21 2022 20:40 utc | 90

@Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 21 2022 17:46 utc | 64

Ehh, National Republican Army of Russian Partisans? Organized by whom, Lyubov Sobol and company?

https://t.me/c/1795183969/1781

Those warmongers at Turcopolier have passed the last weeks talking about counterinsurgence, calling for sending SOF teams for sabotage and organizing guerrillas...

No guerrillas are possible without civilians and civilians are not in the part of the Kiev regime in their majority, if not because those who could do it fled the country towards The West at the first moments of the SMO, then those who remained are those who have been plundered through these past 8 years by the rising prices of energy and everything, a treatment now we are enjoying in the EU too...Do not seem a fertile ground for pro-nazi regime guerrillas....

This job has been perpetrated by foreign agents probably residing at the US, or UK, Embassy

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Aug 21 2022 20:49 utc | 91

My thinking is he is an important figure in the mind of the modern Russian which is seeking to go back.

I think the final tweet from Sleboda is therefore not very accurate. Western media did not inflate Dugin's image.

It is rather the hopeful delusion on the part of leftists that Tsar Putin will somehow be able to retain shades of liberalism in a more nationalist paradigm.

In short, Putin is ushering in by going backwards, and modern progressives can not reconcile themselves to the fact that spirit is advancing and leaving liberalism in the dust. The future will be Patriarchal and nationalistic.

All diversions in eastern newage spirituality will be discouraged as the meddling , interloping product of internationalism.

RIP unfortunate victim.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 21 2022 21:01 utc | 92

The killing of a young, innocent woman is, indeed, a tragic event, a grave crime. It is dramatic, but not as dramatic as some here perceive it to be, at least in my view. I am not persuaded that it is a watershed event. It is a bad omen. I will wait to hear what the investigation has to say about the murderers. I don't quite agree with what P Escobar has written, nor do I find the Strana news piece particularly clear or enligthening. I do agree
with JS | Aug 21 2022 15:15 utc | 36, as I also find that Dugin has nothing to say to me. I've diligently read every one of his long articles or interviews posted by PEscobar and recommended elsewhere. He is more an emotive nationalist than a deep thinker. I understand and am glad that the Russian leadership does not share his recommendations.
- The serioes of recent events, including the killing of Darya Dugina, are consequences of the unfortunate decision of the Russian leadership to intervene militarily in Ukraine. It is making Russia less safe, as all wars do. Long term, Russia will have a hostile Ukraine at its side for a long time to come. Not only because of aggressive and criminal Western goals and policies, but also because of the catastrophic human toll of the war in Ukraine. If 200 thousand Ukranian soldiers have been killed and 300 thousand are seriously wounded, or disabled, up to now, this will be a permanent cause of hatred, resentment and will for revenge.We can only hope that the Russian leadership will continue to act rationaly, calmly and with a view to bring this bloody conflict to an end as quckly as possible.

Posted by: JB | Aug 21 2022 21:07 utc | 93

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 21 2022 20:16 utc | 86
" blowing up a 30 year old who looks for all the world like a normal young European woman is not going to be a propaganda coup."

No, it is a masterful propaganda coup.

Why nobody here believes in superior russian smartness ?

That coup is very useful because russian forces are understaffed, and "Mothers of Russia" would prevent drafting young russian men. Now, thanks to this drama, thousands of volunteers will apply.

Don't worry for Miss Dugina. She will got a little bit of nice face surgery and long vacations, at the expense of the Russian Federation.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 21 2022 21:08 utc | 94

RIP

Posted by: lulu | Aug 21 2022 21:19 utc | 95

yenwoda has stated they are from eastern usa.. my view is they are much younger then i initially thought - probably in their 30's is my guess.. i think you are wasting your time engaging with them.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2022 19:58 utc | 84

a cubicle at Langley, possibly.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 21 2022 21:23 utc | 96

Posted by: JB | Aug 21 2022 21:07 utc | 93

a nuclear armed NATO affiliated Ukraine was a prospect that Russia could not tolerate, which NATO calculated in this gambit to bleed Russia and ultimately topple its government and break up the country. the neonazis hated Russia anyway, which was why they murdered so many Russians in Donbass.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 21 2022 21:26 utc | 97

" i think this means the western msm will mostly keep it out of the news cycle, or downplay it... this event has to stay off the news.."

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2022 20:39 utc | 89

By the same logics, everybody can also predict what the russian msm will do . . .

Cui bono....

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Aug 21 2022 21:31 utc | 98

The Anglo-American controlled “Free Press” has been trying to build up Alexander Dugin as an influential political figure in Russia--promoting him as “Putin’s brain,” a “modern-day Rasputin,” a Kremlin ally, or even the architect of the Ukraine military operation itself.

But as Andrei Martyanov states, this characterization is Western media propaganda, as Dugin was a marginal political figure who was more widely known in the West than in Russia itself:

“Dugin NEVER was "Putin's brain", nor was he ever "influential", with all those sobriquets being a complete fantasy concocted within the dumpster of Western media and, sadly, promoted by Dugin himself…. I am on record for years, that Dugin is nothing more than demagogue and grossly uneducated man, with the exception of his knowledge of languages, whose opinions on geopolitics are those of an amateur. Sadly, he did come across all the time as some kind of Russia's "hawk", and this quality combined with his grossly exaggerated reputation in the Western media is what could have been one of the reasons behind this tragic event, in which Daria has become a victim.”

About Dugin's Daughter Assassination
http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/08/about-dugins-daughter-assassination.html?m=0

So the West, led by the USA, has likely murdered the 3o-year old daughter of a guy that they have been trying to build up as a kind of ideological bogeyman for years.

This is reminiscent of how America murdered the teenaged son and eight-year old daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen who allegedly was part of the bogeyman “terrorist” group called Al-Queda (or Al-CIAda, if you prefer).

Who is the real terrorist again?

Posted by: ak74 | Aug 21 2022 21:34 utc | 99

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 21 2022 18:10 utc | 69

Try Prilepin's Telegram, the event in which father and daughter participated was organized by him. Some poems and a lot of sadness. Of course there will be consequences, the escalation ladder is getting shorter with the west going full ISIS.

https://t.me/zakharprilepin/13966

Posted by: Paco | Aug 21 2022 21:36 utc | 100