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August 8, 2022
Policy By Other Means – By Helmholtz Smith

by Helmholtz Smith

"Hybrid war". Western propagandists love the expression "The bad guys are doing nasty underhand things to counter our clean-cut decent and wholly justified activities" but they are just making noise. As Clausewitz knew, however, there is an actual meaning:

We see, therefore, that War is not merely a political act, but also a real political instrument, a continuation of political commerce, a carrying out of the same by other means. All beyond this which is strictly peculiar to War relates merely to the peculiar nature of the means which it uses (…) for the political view is the object, War is the means, and the means must always include the object in our conception.

In this sense, all intelligently-conducted wars are "hybrid wars" advancing on many levels to achieve the "political object" by "other means".

What is the "object"?


Moscow knows that NATO/USA is the real enemy and that the wretched Ukrainians are its puppets and their looted and worn-out country is the arena. Putin himself has said that NATO's threat to Russia must be stopped. NATO, and the European Union with which it is closely linked, must be exposed as useless, actively harmful to their members and their hostility defeated.

NATO, which loves to pose as peaceful (despite the five or six wars it's started in the last quarter-century), cannot or will not understand Russia's point of view. Moscow will shove its face in it. Putin says that he has many times tried other means (Munich 2007 being one of the earliest). Those means having failed, he's using these means this time.

Far-ranging aims require a multi-front attack. Let us consider the fronts.

MILITARY FRONT. Putin has explained the aims – denazification and demilitarization Maybe they could have been achieved through negotiation – although years of Kiev ignoring the Minsk Agreements suggest not – but that didn't happen. Maybe Moscow hoped that its feint on Kiev might prevent a bloody slog but that didn't happen either. And so the battle of annihilation is on – Ukraine's military power is being smashed and the Nazis killed.

It's taking a long time for several reasons. Imagine the Western Front trench line but with three times as long to build it and concrete rather than sandbags and wood. Russia and its allies attacked with smaller forces. The allied forces are moving slowly to reduce their casualties and because they are in no particular hurry. The Ukrainians are resisting very tenaciously and NATO is egging them on. The Ukrainian forces are being methodically slaughtered, allied casualties are a fraction of that because "artillery conquers and infantry occupies".

DIPLOMATIC FRONT. The West likes claim that Russia is isolated. But, in terms of population, the so-called "International Community" represents only 15 to 20 percent of the world and the Russians are well-received elsewhere. Here's Lavrov very much in the thick of things at ASEAN, in Africa (note media attempts to spin it away) and the Arab world.

Russia isn't isolated at all and its diplomacy is having effect. US diplomacy, on the other hand, is just threats – Africa is warned, China threatened.

ECONOMIC FRONT. When Moscow began its "special military operation", it expected that Nordstream 2 would be stopped because it knew the West was stuck on the idea that the Russian economy is dependent on selling energy to Europe – "Russia cannot afford to cut its sales of oil". Moscow had its response ready – hostile countries have to pay in rubles.

What's Europe's response? Hurt Putin by not showering. Don't, he doesn't care. Of course the price went up and Moscow has probably completely funded the operation out of the increased revenue. The West is discovering – and, advised as it is by people like Aslund, to its astonishment – that "the country that doesn't make anything" is a big producer of lots of essential things.

Moscow knew Washington would stick Europeans with the check – just as Washington will fight to the last Ukrainian, it will sanction until the last European freezes. The economic war is doing more damage to Russia's enemies. They will either figure this out and change their behavior or they won't and they'll suffer. Moscow waits knowing that it wins either way.

PROPAGANDA FRONT. It is a common sentiment that Moscow is losing the propaganda war but I'm not convinced. Propaganda has to have some basis in truth – instead we have the martyrs of Snake Island miraculously reviving, the ghostly Ghost of Kiev, million-man armies disappearing, Kherson counter attacks put off again, maternity hospital bombings exposed by the bombed-out mothers, bodies thoughtfully left out to be seen, Russia begging China, Iran or North Korea for weapons, another "game-changer" weapon.

Russia was running out of ammunition in March, April, June and July. You have to be pretty comatose to still believe this. The propagandists have lost their skills. And reality leaks out through the holes in these flimsy tales. Witness the reception of the Amnesty International report that Ukrainian tactics are "putting civilians at risk and violating the laws of war when they operate in populated areas".

"Putin's propagandists" chides The Times; "cannot be tolerated" says Zelensky; "Russian propaganda" as she quits. No news to us who have seen Azov fighters sheltering behind civilians in Mariupol, weapons hidden in shopping centers, troops setting up in schools. But it's a shocker to believers of the Western narrative (especially Vogue readers!).

Skeptics know that the difference between a conspiracy theory and reported truth is a few months. In June it was Russian disinformation that corrupt officials were selling Western weapons, in August it's news. Zelensky a hero then, corrupt now. Expect more "disinformation" transforming into truth.

JUDO. Putin is well known to be a judo master. Judo is the art of using the opponent's movements against it. That's what we are seeing. On every front Russia has time on its side and escalation dominance. The impotence of NATO and the EU – in fact the actual damage that membership in either brings – is more perceptible every day as winter approaches.

Europe's, the West's, predominance stood on three legs. The power to compel others. The captivating halo of success. The wealth to fund the other two. Watch this little video – not much respect there. I expect we will see more vignettes like this.

The statue is hollow, the Mandate of Heaven is shifting.

Comments

jared@100 …1, wrong, 2, wrong and 3, wrong. They are just assholes plain and simple, do you live around them? Ms Elinsky talked about getting a nuclear weapon, why? Scare Russia? 14,000 dead Ukrainians in 8 years is scary enough.
Ukrainians are fucked in the head, or is there a logical reason to, say, shell a nuclear power plant?
Did I mention they are assholes, watch one of their snuff vids from the front line and how they treat prisoners. Assholes…

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 8 2022 20:15 utc | 101

Dixiecrats first ran in 1948.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 8 2022 18:13 utc | 73
This statement is incorrect. The Democratic Party had always been the party of white landlords south of the Mason Dixon (“Dixie”) until, as pretzelattack points out, GE ’68. The irony, of course, is LBJ broke the VRA and CRA filibusters by conceding fed grants for Dem votes to obtain 3/4 threshold for cloture and floor. Subsequent attrition of southern black voters from Republican Party into Dem precincts–backed by VRA enforcement–not only disrupted 200-year-old, feudal status quo across the bible belt, it opened now derelict GOP caucus control to racist, red-baiting, reactionaries bearing cash reserves and “hereditary” public offices.
Also, omitting the Korean conflict from Truman’s rationale for nominally de-segregating US Army is as peculiar as omitting black americans historical association of military service with full legal rights of US citizenship. Starter Pack

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 8 2022 20:28 utc | 102

By the way, our host b is one who is independent of MSM 🙂
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Aug 8 2022 20:05 utc | 106
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Well, without MSM, that is, without criticising MSM, there’s not much to write about…😃

Posted by: rp | Aug 8 2022 20:35 utc | 103

So, the heads of the NDP, Liberals and Conservatives will all be WEF!
Posted by: Roger | Aug 8 2022 20:01 utc
HUH?!!? Poilievre is 100% anti-WEF. He has slammed the WEF for listing him on their website without his permission, or even notifying him. Baber, Lewis and Bergen would appear to be prominent potential anti-WEF allies. (they shuffled Bergen out as “interim leader” as she was an even stronger choice than Poilievre).
So no, Harper was and may still be a WEFer, but Poilievre has specifically denied he is one.
Harper’s days as a power broker are done. Bill Gates kicked him to the curb and the Adelson clan doesn’t seem to put much stock in his offerings.

Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 8 2022 20:42 utc | 104

Russia Suspends Bilateral Inspections in Nuclear Weapons Treaty
https://bioclandestine.substack.com/
Clandestine 2 hrs ago

Posted by: crone | Aug 8 2022 20:53 utc | 105

Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 8 2022 18:23 utc | 75
Thanks from one oldie to another… It truly amazing the world are full of them different or same party but same sets of mold and “rules-based international order,” base on western democracy, freedom of speech or moving goal post to suit their human social behaviors..
Now back to Freeland, and Jagmeet Singh same party but still same equally evils. or Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak expect changes, more or less evils? Maybe the exceptional nation… Biden and Trump or downunder Albanese and Morrison?

Posted by: JC | Aug 8 2022 21:06 utc | 106

Polievre is pro-Ukraine, which tells you he’s just another stooge.
The only Canadian politician who stood up against vaccine mandates and Ukrainian grifts is Maxime Bernier.

Posted by: Meh | Aug 8 2022 21:21 utc | 107

Mike Tyson — ‘Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.’
Lets wait for the general Winter to come, and see what’s left standing in the Spring
Russia it’s NOT in a hurry

Posted by: Fred | Aug 8 2022 21:27 utc | 108

Bakhmut is very very noisy tonight, much noisier than previously. But I’m not sure if the noises on Cam 6 are incoming or outgoing – maybe outgoing but I’m no expert. Either way stuff seems to be closer to the centre – people were discussing Cam 6 location earlier and the consensus seemed to be it was to the east of the station around 48°35’28.0″N 37°58’23.0″E.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqt3thTcx9M
This really is the first internet/smartphone war

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 8 2022 21:30 utc | 109

Old Canadian…. I’d ask how old, so what politician ever did what they put out as a platform? White Man speak with forked tongue…..as a white man living under colonial yoke I could never ever look myself in the mirror thinking some politician had my best interests at heart. Fool me once, fool me….ain’t gonna freakin’ happen. Most Canadians will cover the mirror, hold their nose, and vote in and equally exceptional piece of shit to fuck us some more….the illusion of a vote.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 8 2022 21:32 utc | 110

Yes, collusion between east and west is what James Corbett and Whitney Webb (Unlimited Hangout, The Last American Vagabond) are saying. The point where east and west converge is transhumanism (chips, gene terapiaa etc). On the other hand, Corbett has been modifyimg his position lately and said that there is no real “collusion” or even some shadowy cabal – instead, technological development has a logic of its own and we are witnessing it as it is unravelling before our very eyes.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 8 2022 20:00 utc | 104
I always thought when watching Corbett that he was anti China by default due to being American rather than by honest research. Also he lives in Japan, that should speak volumes. Personally i am cynical about him as this POV plays very well to his paying subscribers who clearly are American conservatives who can only envision a world wide conspiracy that perfectly matches the local conspiracy of the US system.
The real message behind people like James Corbett is buy your guns and pretend you want liberty. Funny things is I’ve yet to see any gun toting Amerikans shooting anyone for liberty. Mostly the freedom guns in the US are used for crime and on their own children.
My guess Corbett is a paid up assett. oops but that would be a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: K | Aug 8 2022 21:34 utc | 111

Ka-Boom!!! Here’s the intro to today’s Alastair Crookes’s SCF column, “The Masque of Pandora”:

Well, this piece is from the leading Establishment journal from the Deep-State-linked, Anglosphere, the Daily Telegraph [link at original]:
“This is the summer before the storm. Make no mistake, with energy prices set to rise to unprecedented highs, we are approaching one of the biggest geopolitical earthquake in decades. The ensuing convulsions are likely to be of a far greater order of magnitude than those that followed the 2008 financial crash, which sparked protests culminating in the Occupy Movement and the Arab Spring …
“Carnage has already arrived in the developing world, with power outages from Cuba to South Africa. Sri Lanka is just one of a cascade of low-income countries where leaders face being driven out of power in an ignominious blaze of petrol droughts and loan defaults.
“But the West is not going to escape this Armageddon. In fact, in many ways, it looks set to be its epicentre – and Britain, its Ground Zero. In Europe and America, a technocratic élite system built on mythology and complacency is crumbling. Its founding fable – which prophesied the nation states’ glorious enmeshment in world government and supply chains – has metastasised into a parable of the perils of globalisation.
“This time, élites cannot shirk responsibility for the consequences of their fatal errors … Put simply, the emperor has no clothes: The Establishment simply has no message for voters in the face of hardship. The only vision for the future it can conjure up is Net Zero – a dystopian agenda that takes the sacrificial politics of austerity and financialisation of the world economy to new heights. But it is a perfectly logical programme for an élite that has become unhinged from the real world”.

Wow! Crooke then intones the OP’s initial tpoic:
“Yes, the western sphere has become so prone to a ‘head-spinning’ disorientation (as was intended), through the constant rain of disinformation labels, stuck haphazardly across anything critical of the ‘uniform messaging’, and by outrageous, obvious lying, that a majority in the western world has begun to question their own and surrounding levels of sanity.
“In their bemusement, they have come to see the ‘messaging’ of sacrificial politics and the financialisation of absolutely everything as ‘perfectly rational’. They have been rendered helpless, held immobile in a spider’s web. Bewitched.”
I know all barflies will want to read this and many can’t thanks to those forces described above. So, with b’s indulgence I’ll copy/paste it onto the now dead Western Conflict thread, which is an apt place for it. ‘Tis done.
Crooke continues to channel WB Yeats as you may recall from last week’s column: “…but today, the phenomenon WB Yeats termed the ‘rough beast’ with its’ gaze as ‘blank and pitiless as the sun’, is better known simply as Ideology.” [My Emphasis] But I’ll stop here to give people the opportunity to read it first and resist further comment until other feedback is posted.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 8 2022 21:36 utc | 112

@117
There is a 1st in many things.
The conventional wisdom is that the attacker forces have to be 3x more than the defender forces.
Russia put to rest this principle, and turned it upside down when attacked with a force 3x LESS than the defender forces

Posted by: Fred | Aug 8 2022 21:37 utc | 113

Shooting in Donetsk too 5 minutes ago.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 8 2022 21:53 utc | 114

MILITARY FRONT. Russia now has +21% of ex-Ukraine (including Crimea) and captures more small bits everyday with a limited operation. The full Ukraine can’t counter-attack. NATO weapons are provided at a rate that can’t compensate the destruction rate (what do 12 new MLRS/HIMARS change when Russia already destroyed +780 MLRS since February?). Ukraine is left with 45% of its army. Russia decides where and when to go next with the +100 BTG used in this SMO. And right now, no one wants to escalate (well, except the idiots in the UkraNaZi dictatorship…).
NOW: Russia 1 – 0 NATO/USA/Europe
LATER: Russia 2 – 1 NATO/USA/Europe (Russia might get more territory, NATO officially expands in Scandinavia)
NUCLEAR scenario: everyone loses. Only cockroaches are left…
Peace agreement and security treaty: everyone wins (except the already deceased cannon fodder…) – this could be the current scenario if Russia’s proposal was accepted in December and if Ukraine was already a democracy and had de-nazified.
DIPLOMATIC FRONT. All diplomacy was used in last decades to attack Russia, expand NATO, forbid Russia from defending itself. Without diplomacy, all USA can do is phone to no-one. But RUssia also has no one else to talk with in Europe. Russia uses diplomacy to replace USA in other continents. USA uses diplomacy to make Western Europe a vassal/colony. Sweden and Finland are almost in NATO. BRICS+ are also expanding. G20 gains importance. G7 is ridiculed. But Russia now is forced to look South and East only.
NOW: Russia 1 – 1 NATO/USA, 0 Europe (they both score but no one wins, Europe just keeps losing)
LATER: no one can anticipate this one. It depends on how crazy USA NeoCons really are, and how far the citizens (in USA, in vassal Europe, and in threatened countries) let them go…
ECONOMIC FRONT. Sanctions failed. Europe is in chaos. People are already poorer and afraid of Winter. USA is the same as it was (amazing for the 1%, bearable for the 10%, and a third world country for the rest…). Russia has stronger ruble than ever. National investment in self-sustainability was fundamental. Import substitution policy is solving the rest. Russia now sells more to closer allies, and using national currencies Russia+allies acceleratee de-dollarization. In the 1st month Russia had high inflation, and ruble was going down. Now Russia is back to a possible normal, and the €uro is the one going down. Depending on what idiots in Europe do, USA might also fall, or Europe will be USA’s piggy bank for decades…
NOW: Russia 1 – 0 NATO/Europe, 1 for 1%USA, 0 for 99%USA
LATER: Russia 2 – 0 NATO/Europe, 2 USA (or 0 USA if Europe wakes up, and in that case 1 for Europe)
(indirectly, China also wins a lot in this one. It scores at least 3 now)
PROPAGANDA FRONT. The western propaganda machine is unbeatable. They lie like no other. They manipulate in such ways that Goebbels would be envy. But it only works in Werternized/USAmericanized countries and nowhere else. Russia also has its fair share of propaganda, but most of it is based on facts. For that reason, most of the world understands Russia’s position: they might condemn war (it always looks nice to do so), but no sanctions against Russia and no weapons for Ukraine. Quite the contrary, many condemn NATO expansion (even the Pope), criticize sanctions (that are illegal), and even refuse to listen to Zelensky. Depending on Russian success in military front, with low civilian casualties, Russia’s position will improve after the conflict is over.
NOW in West: Russia 0 – 2 NATO/USA/Europe
LATER in West: Russia 0 – 0 NATO/USA/Europe (Russia won’t recover its image, but West won’t win either. Some might still believe the propaganda machine, but many more will distrust the current criminals that call themselves mainstream “journalists”)
NOW elsewhere: Russia 1 – 0 NATO/USA/Europe
LATER elsewhere: Russia 2 – 0 NATO/USA/Europe (Russia will gain influence and respect, specially if de-dollarization is successful in the mid/long term)
We’ll be able to see these scores affecting the POLITICAL ‘rear’, that might become a front if in some countries the leadership change also becomes a regime change (ex: coup in Ukraine), or at least an ideology change (ex: France getting out of NATO, €uroexit in one or more countries). And lest also see how independentists play their cards in Scotland and Catalonia, Kosovo and Artesakh, maybe even in Texas and Quebeque, and of course in the liberated oblasts of Novorussia.

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Aug 8 2022 22:07 utc | 115

The marine article on the SMO which is making the rounds is a good read all around. There’s something that stuck out to me in it. The author talks about how the deception in the north and the rapid occupation and threat towards Nikolaev and Odessa in the south gave Russia time to get its logistics fully in order for the artillery pounding that has characterized the Donbas front. Now he can’t prove that it was a time buying maneuver (unless he’s seen satellite evidence of it), but I think this makes a certain amount of sense.
I don’t think Putin planned this operation in the way that he was waiting for an opportunity. The troops and exercises were a blocking maneuver that had gone on for a year. I didn’t think Russia would enter Ukraine. B didn’t think so. Lots of people who know a lot and have a good record of being right didn’t think it would happen. Then it did. I also distinctly recall Putin’s agitation when he announced it. He’s stone cold unless he’s being jovial; it’s one of his traits and he magnifies it purposefully. But he was visibly angry in a way I don’t recall since Chechnya in 1999 after the bombings. I assume that something we may never know happened that made him snap. Not the threat of getting nukes or anything; something serious and real and imminent.
If that’s the case, Russia was faced with a massed army in Donbas. Perhaps one very seriously about to go on the offensive. And had limited time to react in a way that gained and preserved action rather than reaction. No doubt the general staff has sheafs of plans and options for any eventuality. I’m not arguing that the SMO was cooked up in a minute. But if Donbas was Russia’s weak point and it didn’t feel like it had the firepower to stop a Ukrainian offensive decisively, what we saw was an elegant way to solve the problem, especially since it gained Russia the strategic land ridge to crimea. The withdrawal in the north then was timed primarily by when Donbas was ready (probably). Martynov is almost certainly right, this campaign will be an important part of military history when we’re allowed to see it with less western propaganda.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 8 2022 22:29 utc | 116

Old Canadian…. I’d ask how old, so what politician ever did what they put out as a platform?
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 8 2022 21:32 utc
Old enough to have gone roughly 60 billion miles around the sun. 😉
I mentioned Bill Davis as he got the closest to being an “honest” politician. The scandals caused by other MPP’s/bureaucrats in his first term as Premier were never repeated, and he was a stabilizing influence as Trudy’s step-father patriated the BNA Act… sorry, the Constitution. Who could forget PET’s little jig behind Queen Lizzie?
I am hoping that Poilievre is as genuine as a politician can be. Since he brought about $3million into the Con party coffers, Baber and Lewis perhaps another $million, they have the clout of roughly 2/3s of the 600,000 VOTING members. VERY different than when grassroots memberships brought in a relatively paltry sum, which was easily swamped by big corporate donors and $5,000-a-plate fundraisers.
The Trudeau/Freeland/Singh regime is virtually guaranteeing a massive Con majority, kinda the opposite of the Joe Who? election. The WEF takeover wasn’t supposed to take longer than a Plandemic year, tops. Putin forestalled the start of WW3 with Minsk 1&2, China didn’t move a muscle towards reclaiming Taiwan until Pelosi waltzed around.
The never-ending GLOBAL EMERGENCY which would be used to slide the WEF into power unseen is stalled. And now the WEF and the Rothschild-class are on an increasing number of people’s minds world wide.
The fact Poilievre will not be obligated to go to the party backroom boys cap-in-hand should make him capable of shutting down the WEF takeover permanently… It’s not a difficult task, just declare the WEF as a multinational foreign power and pass a law that no one elected to Parliament or in any gov’t bureaucratic position can be a participating member of such an organization. Freeland is currently a WEF Board member… how is that not a conflict of interest?
If the WEF/Bilderberger/Davos crowd want to “do business” with Canadian politicians, agencies or bureaucrats, they can come here and do it in a fully public, recorded on-the-record meeting. No more backroom deals.
Strict conflict of interest rules, make the lobbying industry small enough to be drowned in a teacup. Shut down the revolving door between boardrooms and gov’t. One in and/or out move per person.
Sunlight, the best disinfectant for the pox of corruption and and tyranny.
Easy peasy.

Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 8 2022 22:37 utc | 117

My guess Corbett is a paid up assett. oops but that would be a conspiracy theory.
Posted by: K | Aug 8 2022 21:34 utc
I haven’t looked at a lot of Corbett’s stuff, but he seems genuine enough. Definitely a self-promoting opportunist, but also savvy enough to keep himself from getting seriously cancelled by the social media police. Fair play on that, everyone’s entitled to make a living.
No surprise he is backing away from the more extreme positions he once held. These may have been more to differentiate himself from other pundits than based on unbending beliefs. We don’t throw out Newton’s Laws of Motion because he was also an alchemist.

Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 8 2022 22:49 utc | 118

Crooke continues to channel WB Yeats as you may recall from last week’s column: “…but today, the phenomenon WB Yeats termed the ‘rough beast’ with its’ gaze as ‘blank and pitiless as the sun’, is better known simply as Ideology.” [My Emphasis] But I’ll stop here to give people the opportunity to read it first and resist further comment until other feedback is posted.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 8 2022 21:36 utc | 120
Thank you for posting the Crooke essay on the old thread.

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 8 2022 22:51 utc | 119

Bemildred @127–
Thanks for your reply. I was going to comment on Glenn Diesen’s latest paper, but it has so many historical errors within it that it distracted from his main point, which agrees with Crooke–the international system that never delivered what it said it would is finally collapsing under the weight of its contradictions, most of which are the breaking of its own principles, which is one reason why Crooke and many others use Lewis Carrol’s words–a revolutionary for his time and ours.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 8 2022 23:34 utc | 120

Yeah, that James Corbett is SUCH a paid-off American catering to other Americans.
Except that he’s Canadian. Oops.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 8 2022 23:44 utc | 121

“The Ukrainians are resisting very tenaciously…”

I’ve been saying for years that the Ukrainian army has been built up by the blueyellow nazi coup regime’s NATO masters until it’s a strong force that is a real threat, apart from being thoroughly integrated with NATO systems (including “advisors” who will operate weapons systems in Ukrainian uniform). Meanwhile the know-alls like the Faker kept insisting that all Ukrainian soldiers were demoralised, drunk, and in fact exactly as they were in 2014 when the then tiny and disintegrating Ukrainian military (by NATO accounts it was down to 6000 soldiers) could have been overrun in a day by Russia with barely a bullet fired. Do you remember the fanfic article on the Faker’s Junkyard in mid February – widely circulated by pro Russian but not terribly intelligent people – as to how the Ukrainians would collapse and change sides in days? I’m feeling vindicated more than ever in my repeated insistence (for which I have been called a troll on this site and told by the Faker not to post on his) that Putin’s greatest blunder was not to have invaded in 2014. An entire generation of Ukrainians have been nazified in between and Ukraine and Russia are both paying the price.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 8 2022 23:48 utc | 122

RT reports Russia has issued another direct challenge to the Outlaw US Empire: Lavrov was named to head Russia’s UNGA Debate delegation along with Duma deputy Leonid Slutsky who chairs that Chamber’s Foreign Affairs Committee. It’s a challenge because both are illegally sanctioned and there are very specific performance requirements for the Outlaw US Empire to perform as the UN’s host nation, many of which it’s already violated. Putin won’t attend in person or via video according to Peskov. IMO, the decisions are very sensible and might provoke a crisis that forces the UN to change its venue.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 0:23 utc | 123

karlof1@120, i second bemildred in thanking you for post the complete crooke on the dead thread. we are fortunate to have a master able to distill a lifetime of study & life experience to guide us through the maze of events to the heart of our new reality.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Aug 9 2022 0:36 utc | 124

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@ Roger | Aug 8 2022 20:01 utc | 105 / @ m – sean
i agree with you…. poilievre – another smooth talking bullshit artist… canucks seem to love these types and most in canada are incapable of voting anything different then conservatives or liberals, if you ever look at a voting map of canada… very occasionally they will vote ndp or green… it is amazing how predictable this all is… don’t like blue? vote red, lol…. pretty face, smooth talker and etc. etc.. that is what people want… when they get them they are shocked to find them just another empty suit…
i am seriously thinking of voting for max bernier at this point…. i voted green last time, but the green party shot themselves in the foot last election in the leadership race… they picked the most politically correct, woke type candidate they could find – annamie paul.. that backfired spectacularly.. paul manly ( my riding ) one of 2 or 3 elected green party members in the previous election – lost as a consequence… poelievre will probably get in.. it is the canuck way – and then they will be sorely disappointed afterwards… harper was very bad, trudeau – just as bad in a different way, and nothing is going to change with this type voting process.. cons are just that – cons..

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2022 0:40 utc | 125

Les Wexner and the WEF are comfortable with setting policy by ‘other means’.
Whitney Webb explores their game in her new book and this extract will interest some barflies.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/08/investigative-reports/leslie-wexners-young-global-leaders/

In this excerpt from her upcoming book, Whitney examines the Wexner Foundation’s origins and the ties of Leslie Wexner’s philanthropy and Jeffrey Epstein to Harvard as well as the now infamous Young Global Leaders program of the World Economic Forum.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 9 2022 1:01 utc | 126

emersonreturn @132–
Thanks for your reply. Crooke’s education, career and lifelong continuing education have been on display to great effect this year over others, IMO. And of course, his sources and perspective differ in an empowering manner. His discernment is also powerful and credible unlike so many of his Western peers. His exhibitions that Woke isn’t a new phenomenon but has come and gone over the centuries is marvelous. I must also add that those he channels, in this instance Lewis Carrol, clearly had similar insight and as I wrote were revolutionary in their times.
What I’d like to read is OP Helmholtz Smith’s appraisal of Crooke’s work and how it interacts with his essay.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 1:09 utc | 127

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2022 0:23 utc | 131
Astute as ever, thank you. What does being “sanctioned” mean for such a visit?
“These prohibitions include the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any blocked person”
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0610

Posted by: Pete Jones | Aug 9 2022 1:10 utc | 128

@karlof1
Thanks for posting Crooke please keep doing it
SC unavailable in NZ

Posted by: Mike | Aug 9 2022 1:18 utc | 129

Down South | Aug 8 2022 13:50 utc | 34
Russian military base in Serbia.
How will that work?
Lavrov, attempting to visit Serbia, was denied overflight by all neighbours.
How is Russia going to establish and support a military base?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 9 2022 1:42 utc | 130

sean the leprechaun | Aug 8 2022 19:45 utc | 98
>…” Every damn election is the same pile of shit elected”
It’s the same everywhere

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 9 2022 1:46 utc | 131

Russia threatens to blow up Zaporizhia NPP!
I was reading Finnish mainstream news and this seems to have been the main story on Monday (machine translation):

A Russian general threatens to blow up the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plantIltalehti, August 8, 2022
Russia is threatening to blow up the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant, which is believed to be mined.
The Ukrainian nuclear power company Energoatom warns that Russia is ready to blow up the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.
The company tells about it in Telegram, quoting the commander of the Russian military base located in the nuclear power plant area, General Valery Vasiliev .
The Center for Strategic Communication of Ukraine and the Ukrainska Pravda newspaper have also reported on Vasiliev’s comments.
According to sources, Vasiljev has announced his readiness to blow up the entire nuclear power plant, which is the largest in Europe.
– This is either Russian land or burnt earth, he is said to have stated when speaking to his own soldiers.
Vasiliev also confirms the information reported on Sunday, according to which the Russians have mined the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant.
– We don’t hide it from the enemy. We have warned them. The enemy knows that this position either belongs to the Russians or nobody, he says.
According to Vasiliev, the troops under his command must prepare for the consequences of this “most demanding order”. He calls his soldiers liberators.
– If the most demanding order comes, we have to carry it out with honor, he says.
At the weekend, the Russian opposition media reported, based on its sources, that Russia has stockpiled explosives at the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant. It said at the time that Russian forces have also mined parts of the nuclear power plant.
Ukraine’s defense intelligence has also previously shared its information that Russia has planted explosives in the nuclear power plant.
On Monday, Ukraine demanded the demilitarization of the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant area. The Russian-occupied region of Zaporizhia, on the other hand, plans to hold a referendum on joining Russia.

The article is accompanied by a 7 minute REUTERS video from Energodar, captioned “Ukrainians living near the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant fear another Chernobyl if Russian strikes get too close.” I am sure the Russian people on the video are not accusing Russia of the strikes, although one old man mentions Chernobyl.
The rest of the story is based on this Ukrainian tweet:

Stratcom Centre UA @StratcomCentre on Twitter, August 8, 2022
URGENT: Russian troops have wired energy units of Zaporizhia nuclear power plant with explosives. Major General Vasilyev, commander of the garrison stationed at the plant, announced readiness to blow up the plant, leading to a nuclear catastrophe. 1/3
“This will either be Russian land, or scorched earth,” he said. He also told his soldiers that no matter how difficult orders they could receive, they had to execute them “with honour,” calling them “liberators.” 2/3
Previously, rep of @DI_Ukraine Andrii Yusov said they had confirmed information about Russian troops installing explosives in ZNPP energy units. 3/3

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Aug 9 2022 2:16 utc | 132

Posted by: Roger | Aug 8 2022 20:01 utc | 105
Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 8 2022 22:37 utc | 125
Posted by: james | Aug 9 2022 0:40 utc | 133
Agreed that Paul was a disaster for the green party. 2nd place finisher Lascaris would have been a true breath of fresh air in Canadian politics. Maybe he’ll try again.
Poilievre has demagogic tendencies, which is worrisome.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Aug 9 2022 2:22 utc | 133

@Posted by: farm ecologist | Aug 9 2022 2:22 utc | 140
The Green Party establishment (e.g. May) worked damn hard to stop Lascaris, it would be great if he ran again but he would have to look out for the establishment tricks. Even if he wins it could end up as a rerun of Corbyn and the Blairites with all the establishment Greens, Lascaris would have to clean shop pretty quickly (Corbyn’s big mistake). We can hope ….
The interim leader, Anita Kuttner, is basically a California educated idpol who identifies as “non-binary, transgender, and pansexual”. After the previous Afro-Canadian Jewish woman fully developed by the NGO-foundation complex and Princeton University, and the previous woman before that, just maybe a boring white Greek-Canadian straight, gender-conforming male could be given a chance in the name of equality?

Posted by: Roger | Aug 9 2022 3:01 utc | 134

139 @ petri.krohn
Good grief. I did not know nuts were a big Ukrainian export crop until now.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 9 2022 3:04 utc | 135

Poiliver [sic] is WEF also, that’s the nice thing about Canadians, they have no shame.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 8 2022 19:45 utc | 98

Poilievre may have been an WEF attendee in the past, all up and coming political stars are invited at some point. Even Putin attended and China sends delegations as well.
But it appears he did not drink the Koolaid, unlike Trudeau/Freeland. I attended one of his meet and greet rallies before deciding to join and he was consistently harsh on the globalists.
https://twitter.com/pierrepoilievre/status/1416374627748696065
That said he ducks/avoids a lot of key issues and makes a lot of promises that it is very unlikely he will deliver on. And he is not a Liberal pretending to be a Conservative like Charest.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 9 2022 3:18 utc | 136

Roth-Rock Conspiracy Theories…
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Aug 8 2022 20:05 utc | 106

Most Conspiracy Theories with staying power are propagated from Langley VA. Those are the ones they want you to repeat. Yesterday’s bogeymen (The Pope, Royals, Roths, Rocks) are perfect for the purpose of distracting from the modern generation of top tier grifters and thieves.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 9 2022 3:30 utc | 137

We don’t throw out Newton’s Laws of Motion because he was also an alchemist.
Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 8 2022 22:49 utc | 126
LOL that would make me even more likely to support it. Was he an alchemist?
IMO Corbett does not rate such a prestigious comparison but whatever floats your boat.

Posted by: K | Aug 9 2022 3:38 utc | 138

people are commenting on the propaganda saturation in the US. many of the populace actually think that the cheerleaders win the game and cannot recollect that the US was lucky to defeat Granada. their opinions matter like the loud noises from their tailpipes matter.
in any case, contract law under capitalism is all about who can get out of honoring what in the contract, for $$$$. for the individual “consumer”, there’s almost no recourse against a business in a contract dispute. everyone tries to do as little as we can get away with in the honoring of contracts.
and so the place turns to shit. and nothing works.
Patroklos | Aug 8 2022 19:24 utc | 90
“first offense? you’ll probably get away with crucifixion…nail them up I say! nail some sense into them!” (Life of Brian) great race, the romans.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 9 2022 3:43 utc | 139

“It’s clear Zionazis thrive on hate and the fear that comes with it. They are far worse than the Afrikaners ever were. Zionazis are one of several abominations present on our planet that threaten humanity and must be neutralized–defanged as a threat–that is actually far worse than NATO.”
karlof1 | Aug 8 2022 15:21 utc | 48

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Thanks for this. Indeed the brutal occupation of Palestine has been largely eclipsed by Ukraine, but it’s part and parcel, perhaps pivotal, in the Zionazi compulsion for global dominance. Your term abomination is interesting. In Matthew 24:15–16, Jesus said, “So when you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place . . . then those in Judea must flee to the mountains.” He could well be referring to the Zionist entity in Palestine — the anti-Christ in the cult Synagogue of Satan. This current civilizational struggle does appear to have a metaphysical good-versus-evil dimension to it. Not a good time to be in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Aug 9 2022 3:51 utc | 140

@ Lex | Aug 8 2022 22:29 utc | 124
good post lex.. thanks… i think the donbass republics claiming independence feb 21st and putin agreeing to that was the big change… but everything you say also rings true… hopefully we will find out more in the coming months or years on all this…

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2022 4:08 utc | 141

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 8 2022 19:45 utc | 98 says:
‘Poiliver is WEF also, that’s the nice thing about Canadians, they have no shame.’
This doesn’t seem right:
1. Polievre is against the mandates and climate emergency crap that is at the heart of the globalist agenda.
2. The desperation with which the globalists are trying to prevent Polievre from winning, such as bringing the globalist shill Jean Charest out of retirement at the last minute, tells me that the globalists see him as a threat, not a friend.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Aug 9 2022 4:12 utc | 142

Lex | Aug 8 2022 22:29 utc | 124
In the first phase of the Russian SMO, Russia targeted Ukraine biolabs and Nuclear site. They were a direct threat to the Russian federation. Pro Russian maps of the initial days and weeks simply painted Ukraine in broad swathes of Russian red so lines of advance could not be seen.
https://vk.com/@739151204-smo-securing-ukrainianus-biological-and-nuclear-sites

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2022 4:16 utc | 143

rjb1.5 | Aug 9 2022 3:43 utc | 146
Americans don’t realize that Boeing and the USG make the F35 not to make a weapon, but to make money, incl as tribute from the colonies. Spain doesn’t buy F35’s because of a threat from Russia, does it?
and what of US weapons systems are not this way? i don’t know. we can do stuff like Stuxnet and bomb Yemenis and try to starve VZ and Iran and provide targeting info for Zion to bomb children in Gaza…and? we can get Australia to buy subs we’ll likely never deliver on.
desperation is a stinky cologne. on the domestic sitrep side, the 100,000 new police officers and the donkey strategy of supporting the MAGA candidates are parts of the growing tide of fascism in the US, perhaps with Desantis as titular leader. anti-immigration hysteria only serves the police state, as does the typical American’s faith in the growing gun collection. might be fun to watch the state rip trump to shreds. but the surveillance powers of the state are only getting worse.
thank god for NYC Mayor Eric Adams. friend of antifa and BLM? or Desantis’ future running mate? thank the other god that elon musk will save free speech.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 9 2022 4:20 utc | 144

‘The reality of the war in Ukraine’, a long read now featuring on Geopolitiek in context: https://geopolitiekincontext.wordpress.com/2022/08/09/de-realiteit-rond-de-oorlog-in-oekraine/
For any language, just hit the Google translate box in the right upper corner.
A summary: Sky News anchor Cory Bernardi, Swiss Colonel Jacques Baud and American historian Eric Zuesse belie our coverage of the war in Ukraine. The Russians were given a binding commitment to NATO expansion. The Ukrainian government is not legitimate. NATO is not a defensive alliance and joining Finland and Sweden is not a good idea. At the fall of the Wall, Washington informed its allies that the Cold War would continue until it yoked Russia.

Posted by: Paul-Robert | Aug 9 2022 5:18 utc | 145

Lithuanian mp matas Maldeikis is tweeting that if the Chinese “mongols”invade tiawan “we” will destroy the Mongol village called Moscow.
This racist Nazi crap is starting to look a lot less like a show daily. I can’t believe the Nazi oppression and racism has returned this publicly blatent.

Posted by: OhhCanada | Aug 9 2022 5:42 utc | 146

Posted by: OhhCanada | Aug 9 2022 5:42 utc | 154

Lithuania should be overrun. It never stopped being a Nazi state. Atm, Poland loves it, for enemy of my enemy is my friend attitude.

Posted by: rp | Aug 9 2022 5:52 utc | 147

From what I assume is a FAKE Petri Krohn@139 – Not only has the whole story proven fake, but it is SO absurd that even our pals at ISW have had to declare it as “likely false” lest they be associated with the fabrication.

Western and Ukrainian outlets circulated a report, likely false, of a Russian general allegedly threatening to destroy Europe’s largest nuclear facility, the Russian-occupied Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (NPP), if Russia could not hold the plant. Multiple news outlets shared a screenshot from the Russian social networking site Vkontakte that claimed to cite the Russian head of the Zaporizhia occupation garrison, Major General Valery Vasilev, stating that Russia had mined the Zaporizhzhia NPP and that the plant would be “either Russian land or a scorched desert.”[1] The screenshot appeared to be a news report posted in a Vkontakte group run by Russian outlet Lenta Novosti Zaporizhia. The outlet itself claimed that the screenshot was from a faked group and denied writing the report.[2] The Russian Ministry of Defense condemned the report and screenshot as a “fake” and claimed that Vasilev was in Uzbekistan at the time he was purported to have made the statement to forces at Zaporizhzhia.[3] Regardless of the origin (or existence) of the original post, the reporting is unreliable. It is indirect and does not claim to cite an official statement or a statement made on any official Russian news or government website.

Before anyone gets too excited about ISW stumbling into reality, note the insane rambling in the following paragraph where they once again destroy *any* credibility they gained above:

This likely misreporting distracts from the very real risks of Russia’s militarization of the Zaporizhzhia NPP, which may include mining the plant and almost certainly includes the unsafe storage of military armaments near nuclear reactors and nuclear waste storage facilities.[4] Bellingcat geolocated a drone video of the Zaporizhia NPP that was shared by Russian opposition outlet The Insider on August 5. The video depicts Russian military vehicles moving in and around the plant, including military trucks…[blah blah bla…]

I sort of lost interest after ISW needed Bellingcat to geolocate what was obviously Zaporizhia NPP.
Source: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-8
Warning: The above link is associated with a government controlled website [take THAT, Twitter]
Much of the propaganda spew on Zaporizhia was triggered by the Ukrainian attack on the plant of Aug. 5th. That damaged transformers and power lines that tripped safety protection systems on Unit 4 (then at full power) resulting in a scram and shutting it down. A reactor trip is always a BIG deal ANYWHERE when a reactor is at full power. It remains in cold shutdown today – neither the IAEA, Energoatom (state nuke operator) nor the World Nuclear Association have reported it being restarted or brought back on line.
That only leaves Unit 1 and 2 reactors operating – the other four are reported in cold shutdown. Now, any further insane Ukrainian attack could damage equipment resulting in another reactor trip leaving only one running. That, itself, is an unsafe condition as that reactor (and the spent fuel cooling pools of all six reactors) must rely on outside power for backup. The plant has emergency generators, but they’re located outside. The generators and their fuel supply are extremely vulnerable to damage from shelling or drones. So the potential for a disaster has already been created and Ukraine has shown absolutely no remorse for the attacks, nor do they acknowledge the precarious situation they have created at the plant. For their part, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has done nothing but confuse the situation by refusing to call out Ukraine for the attacks and implying that Russia is the one preventing IAEA inspection and fuel audits. Russia has repeatedly invited to escort IAEA from Russian territory.
The latest narrative is a bizarre call for UN troops (i.e., NATO troops) to take over security at the plant and establish a demilitarized zone around it. Which sounds like a desperate attempt to cover up whatever shenanigans Ukraine might have been up to with diverting spent fuel for questionable purposes. I really don’t even trust the IAEA to perform an honest audit at this point – it’s clear they are carrying water for their ZATO masters despite their attempt to look neutral.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Aug 9 2022 5:58 utc | 148

The World Nuclear Association’s timeline of events – curiously missing some well-documented strikes at the plant – but otherwise a comprehensive look at the nuclear situation in Ukraine:
Ukraine: Russia-Ukraine War and Nuclear Energy (Updated 7 August 2022)

Posted by: PavewayIV | Aug 9 2022 6:06 utc | 149

I am a Canadian in Tokyo. I came here after an abortive attempt as a stringer in SE Asia during the Vietnam War. Working as an independent journalist is hard — hard to make a living — hard to stay alive I have huge respect for Graham Phillips and others like him in the Ukraine and other hotspots. They have the guts I didn’t. I moved to Tokyo where it is a.) safe b.) it’s OK to be an Outside (Gaijin). From this vantage point, I look at Canada — and those unanimous votes in Ottawa supporting the American Empire and agree with those of you who wonder at the mentality of Canadian voters. What really IS the difference between the various parties? Not a whole lot. Trudeau has nice hair. Jagmeet has a pink turban….And the conservatives?…..LOL. The fact is that Canucks don’t care about much beyond their local social circles and creature comforts. They do not care that two companies control 90% of what they think is “news” and “information”. The don’t care when politicians lie and cheat.Me=Me. Always. Me does not equal “We”. There is no “We” in the Canuck mind. Well, for most people. Of course, there are exceptions. Canucks, like Americans, are cultural narcissists, which leads to national sociopathy. Canadian politicans have no principles — because no one else does.

Posted by: julianmacfarlane | Aug 9 2022 6:06 utc | 150

Well, I rarely have time to properly read the commments, but now happened to read Oriental Voices brilliant comment #106 (about world being different to what is narrated in MSM or in the common western conspiracy theories).
Then happened to skim to rps comment to him/her #110, where rp states: “without criticising MSM, there’s not much to write about…”. But that’s not quite true. It is surely important that there should be widespread ciritique of false narratives. But at least as important is that there are books, articles and other media, in a word, thinking that is not held hostage by the MSM and other narrative controllores. Running around criticizing MSM does not lead to a better thinking or better structures of life and world, does it? Criticizism is by definition reactionary, and by itself is not enough for the needs of humanity at large and in the whole meaning of the word. Surely in things social and political it might be much more difficult to write meaningful and non-reactionary stuff than it is in some more internal and esoteric spheres of human life and interaction. So, take care…

Posted by: die Niemandsfuchs | Aug 9 2022 6:09 utc | 151

Is the German population going put up with freezing in their homes this winter with no jobs to go to. When all they need to do it turn on NS2?

Posted by: RZ | Aug 9 2022 6:57 utc | 152

Old canadian | Aug 8 2022 19:30 utc | 92
citing Patroklos | Aug 8 2022 19:24 utc | 90

For we moderns in 2022 one can see the Russians have gone to great lengths to attend to this aspect of the conflict. They may not have fetial priests, but they have assembled a vast case to support their claims and have articulated their war aims in terms of the redress of a wrong. NATO and the west wage war on behalf of empty and cynical gods and their legitimacy has all but vanished. Legitimacy is not bought with lies, but another Roman virtue which served them well: fides. The entire Western alliance is a vacuum of fides: no trust, no honour, no belief, no meaning. Just base self-serving rapacity.

I suggest the significance of the Chinese response to Pelosi’s Taiwan frolic and detour is that the Chinese, as heretofore unthinkable as it may seem, have only now come to the conclusion the Russians reached after a painful reassessment of the real character of its adversaries: the US, NATO, the EU was and is “a vacuum of fides: no trust, no honour, no belief, no meaning. Just base self-serving rapacity.”
One could believe the Russians were thinking this by Putin’s 2007 Munich speech and certainly in 2014 following the German and French abandonment of both their guarantees on the eve of the Maidan coup and later refusal to follow through on 2015’s Minsk 2 one year later. Once the Russians threw down the gauntlet regarding NATO expansion east to Russia’s borders in December ’21 it was only a matter of time before the guns of February ’22 were rolled out to be used.
The Chinese transition to “wolf-warrior” posture (2017?), its dramatic departure over time from prior repeated Chinese diplomatic assertions of its desire to evolve peaceful relations with all other sovereigns– to direct and confrontational language– seemed finally to signal a clear break with its traditional “peaceful relations” orientation in March 2021 at the meeting with Blinkin and Sullivan in Alaska.
For an outsider to believe that a clear break by China with its prior positive perception of its adversaries had then taken place — seems now in hindsight, given China’s heated rhetoric on contemplating Pelosi’s Taiwan poke-in-China’s eye — to have been unfounded. It seems only now, this past week, that China has arrived at the understanding that took the Russians so long themselves to develop and prepare for: “the US, NATO, the EU was and is “a vacuum of fides: no trust, no honour, no belief, no meaning. Just base self-serving rapacity.”

Posted by: pogohere | Aug 9 2022 7:06 utc | 153

@Posted by: Oriental Voice | Aug 9 2022 5:29 utc | 153

This Anita Kuttner worries me. Pansexual??? Meaning men, women, toddlers, octogenarians? What about dogs, cats, goats, goose, hens? I think she (or he?) should be checked out first at a hospital before taking any public office. A green pansexual could be a security risk to a nation if occupying a high office.

You need to use google search for definitions before you completely go astray, its means sexual attraction for adults irrespective of sex or gender identity – bisexuality with trans and gender none conforming add-ons! Basically, yet another idol term to confuse things. Biology and genes are so uncool these days it seems ….

Posted by: Roger | Aug 9 2022 7:12 utc | 154

Just for fun, I’m watching DW in English, until of course, I get tired of listening to the BS it spews. Right now, the so-called head of UKie Atom chief talking about how dangerous is bombing the Zaporozhia nuclear electricity plant, while showing the Russian soldiers patrolling it. Either the DW (Deutche Welle) considers the listeners as dumb, or just don’t care what it emits, most probably both.
Also, time to time, DW emits a plea for helping Ukraine, asking for contributions. The thing is, which Ukraine does it wants people to help out? One thing the DW/Germany had forgotten is that the word Germany is still sounds ugly, connects itself to the murderous Germans of 70+ years ago. True, I haven’t seen that war, but lot of older relatives had seen that. They never met with a human German in those WW2 days. Today, the same German made shells/bullets kill Russians and also the Ukrainians. Nothing had changed since 70+ years, Germans had stayed Germans. All, the Germans need is another Hitler-type to bring out what they really are.

Posted by: rp | Aug 9 2022 7:21 utc | 155

thread by Caitlin Johnstone
https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1556416397596508161?s=21&t=r4UURU5QKbC4vGu0SYDujQ
excerpts:
Westerners think they are free because they can criticize their president or PM, when a small amount of research quickly reveals that those officials aren’t the ones calling the shots on any issue of importance. Westerners aren’t even allowed to know who their real government is.
We’re not allowed to know who’s calling what shots behind the veils of secrecy. All we’re allowed to see is our governments continually advancing the same imperial policies over and over again regardless of who’s in office. They never let us see who’s actually making those calls.

and
You can research this stuff all your life and at best all you’ll get is a very grainy picture of what’s going on and a bunch of very rough educated guesses. You’ll have a list of names of people and institutions you know are involved somehow, but most of it will remain unseen.
The truth is westerners live in a giant empire loosely centralized around the United States whose operations they have literally no influence over, whose operators they don’t even get to know, and whose mechanisms are entirely hidden.
If you call that freedom, I call you a fool.

and
The people have no say over the behavior of this bureaucracy, and foreign leaders like Xi and Putin are getting increasingly impatient with the charade of having to pretend the official government is calling the shots. @MoonofA had a good piece on this:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/what-presidents-say-does-not-matter-it-is-the-execution-of-policies-that-count.html#more

Posted by: SeanAU | Aug 9 2022 7:23 utc | 156

wagelaborer:
> Yeah, that James Corbett is SUCH a paid-off American catering to other Americans.
> Except that he’s Canadian. Oops.
Canadian on paper; if I didn’t know I would def say American.

Posted by: Mr Y | Aug 9 2022 7:48 utc | 157

Posted by: OhhCanada | Aug 9 2022 5:42 utc | 154
Little Lithuania acting big and mighty is pure comedy.
I guess little doggies have to bark loud to make Master proud.

Posted by: Ghan-buri-Ghan | Aug 9 2022 7:50 utc | 158

RZ:
> Is the German population going put up with freezing in their homes this winter with no jobs to go to. When all they need to do it turn on NS2?
Maybe they can’t afford the goodies that NS2 can supply?

Posted by: Mr Y | Aug 9 2022 7:51 utc | 159

@Posted by: Mr Y | Aug 9 2022 7:48 utc | 165
I followed Corbett at one time, but he is so hit and miss between actual information and Alex Jones level wackiness I gave up.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 9 2022 7:52 utc | 160

PavewayIV | Aug 9 2022 5:58 utc | 156
“That, itself, is an unsafe condition as that reactor (and the spent fuel cooling pools of all six reactors) must rely on outside power for backup. The plant has emergency generators, but they’re located outside”.
Reminds me of Fukushima, where twelve of the thirteen generators used for cooling were shut down *1*. Leading to massive overheating at four plants and the possible (Probable?) meltdown in two *2*.
****
“Constantpiracy” theories
*1* Suspected cause; Stuxnet variant as well as Tsunami. Those that shut down were all running Siemens software. The Thirteenth, was not linked into the grid and kept running. (Stuxnet? The Crew at Fukushima tried but could NOT shut the generators down from the control room – which speeded up uncontrollably then broke, as had the centrifuges in Iran earlier).
*2* Meltdown or up? One was said to have overheated and the radioactive material burnt through the concrete floor, and another was said to have blown up through the top of the casing. Leaving “bits” of radioactive material falling as far as Tokyo (? covered up to not let the 50 million Japanese “worry”?)
**
I suspect we are running on borrowed time as, if the generators are taken out by fire, even accidentally, we may get a second Fukushima/Tchernobil.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 9 2022 7:59 utc | 161

Posted by: rp | Aug 9 2022 7:21 utc | 163
You must be a sad specimen to listen/watch DW. It is so mediocre it can only recruit second-tier presenters in English who are rarely journalists and more often German language graduates from English-speaking countries. It is like the entire German media landscape hidebound and sclerotic, rarely up to the moment, and ponderously didactic.
Truth is the major broadcast networks are dinosaurs kept alive by taxpayer funding and political vanity. Even RT is no longer what is started out to be – read Graham Phillips on The Saker to see how they dumped him.
The old adage – What they call “News” is Propaganda. “News” is what they seek to conceal from you

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 9 2022 8:00 utc | 162

Posted by: julianmacfarlane | Aug 9 2022 6:06 utc | 158
You know Canada is an Oligarchy. The old Presbyterian Clique has been replaced by the Montreal Mafia and Drug Lords. With Quebec and Ontario Trudeau gets elected……….outside those provinces he is not much loved.
The power brokers like the late Maurice Strong, Paul Desmerais – they puppet-master the Liberals.
The Conservatives broke themselves.
Canada will need to split with the Western Half becoming its own political entity and separating from Montreal and Toronto/Ottawa

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 9 2022 8:04 utc | 163

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 9 2022 8:00 utc | 170

Oh, sometimes you should know what the enemies say too…😃

Posted by: rp | Aug 9 2022 8:08 utc | 164

@ rp (163)
Paul Greenwood’s comment at 170 reminds me of all the times I’ve been told that Germany is not a sovereign nation, its policies dictated by an Anglophone nation, the USA (and the UK is not without its own role as well). It inspired me to ask: How much of the people who run DW and the German govt. are really German?

Posted by: Digby | Aug 9 2022 8:26 utc | 165

I think the west is losing the public relations war too. Sure there are lots of uninformed sheep willing to believe the western media but more and more, particularly after Pelosi’s incredibly ill advised jaunt to Taiwan, the western public is becoming aware as to how they are being played for fools.
Roll on the downfall of the city of London and Wall street. The real backers of the murderous war in Ukraine and the inflammation of tensions in Taiwan

Posted by: Ike | Aug 9 2022 8:29 utc | 166

If the USA is running the war in the Ukraine and if that side are bombing the nuclear power plant would not Russia be justified in regarding it as a first strike? Albeit with a dirty nuke and with a modicum of plausible deniability. The first strike rule would apply even if the “bomb” were a dud? That clock they keep talking about must be only fractions of seconds from midnight by now.

Posted by: J. Robert Shiva | Aug 9 2022 8:48 utc | 167

RZ:
> Is the German population going put up with freezing in their homes this winter with no jobs to go to. When all they need to do it turn on NS2?
If you shoot yourself in the foot on purpose you have a reason; what’s Germany’s reason?

Posted by: Mr Y | Aug 9 2022 9:30 utc | 168

@ Mr Y
The ordinary people have had no reason to do so.
The greens are using this opportunity to get their agenda through. Once Russia is fed up w/ this bunch of dimwits the way to clean energy is free (in their perception).
Once the deindustrializing is picking up speed this will not be turned back.
At the same time the selling out of German businesses to the US will gain speed, too, which could prolong the demise of the dollar somewhat.
The greens follow their cult and Scholz is in the pockets of those who could feed on how he is involved in the cum/ex-scandal.
And to keep the people down the government keeps on maintaining control of the ordinary citizen by mask mandates etc.
Every dissenting opinion is either nazi or by Putin-philiacs.

Posted by: Goingo | Aug 9 2022 9:58 utc | 169

Posted by: Chessmaster | Aug 8 2022 18:12 utc | 72
Anti-Spiegel told us on August 8th about Ukraine dropping these butterfly mines above Donezk.
https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2022/ukrainische-armee-wirft-anti-personen-streuminen-ueber-zentrum-von-donezk-ab/
The utter lunacy in that article of ntv, i.e. claiming that the Russians would drop these mines over the Donbass (and into Donezk city) “to defend the frontlines” is only topped by the fact that this irrational assumption by the British secret services is actually repeated by the media.

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Aug 9 2022 10:07 utc | 170

Soon all citizens of the EU will feel the pinch. Stargint in October my gas and electric bill go from 50 t0 200 euros a month. Why? Because the dogmatic Greens can not control their emotions and lack any critical thinking. Everything is dogma with them: World Economic Forum hate and destruction. How will the ‘people’ react when they begin to feel the consequences in real time? Because Ukraine, you know, they will continue to accept the dictates of their masters. Who is benifiting from the hight energy prices: yes Russia, but even more the energy companies around the world. There’s Green logic for you.

Posted by: Quentin | Aug 9 2022 10:12 utc | 171

Is the German population going put up with freezing in their homes this winter with no jobs to go to. When all they need to do it turn on NS2?
Posted by: RZ | Aug 9 2022 6:57 utc | 160

The loss of face of 99 in 100 politicians and nigh any respectable media would have to happen before of that – on a galactical scale. They`d rather let the people freeze and think up some payment scheme “for the poor” and blame it all on Russia. The disfunctional reality perception syndrome has struck hard and true over here …

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Aug 9 2022 10:25 utc | 172

I have a feeling that Russia should resign from the so-called West, that is, comforts of the western Europeans should not be of any heartbreak for the Russians. The whole collective West went out of the way to hit the Russians economically, make their life hard, so there shouldn’t be any real reason to pity the inhabitants west of the Russian/Belarussian borders, including the Baltics and Scandinavian countries.

Posted by: rp | Aug 9 2022 10:32 utc | 173

Posted by: PavewayIV | Aug 9 2022 6:06 utc | 157
Thanks for all your updates and hypotheses, most welcome.
Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 9 2022 7:59 utc | 169
I wasn’t aware of the suggestion of sabotage but I assume it would be technically feasible, given a hackable controller architect, to plant sabotage code that would only trigger during a genuine emergency, thus using that real emergency as cover. An interesting and plausible idea that could be more widely applicable (dams, chemical plants etc).
Even if we exclude outright sabotage, it is now never mentioned that each Fukushima rector building included a storage pool on the upper floor. Had one or more of those pools lost water or thermal control, likely all of the stored material would have been launched into the air on the resulting nuclear-powered blowtorch.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 9 2022 10:49 utc | 174

rp:
> … so there shouldn’t be any real reason to pity the inhabitants west of the Russian/Belarussian borders, including the Baltics and Scandinavian countries.
I’m ashamed to be Norwegian. Russia have never done us any harm. Back in the 40-ies the Red Army drove the Nazis out of Northern Norway but unlike the sad empire across the Atlantic they went home and left us alone.

Posted by: Mr Y | Aug 9 2022 10:59 utc | 175

A buddy of mine in Germany says his heating bill will go from 120 a month in 2019 to 400 a month this year. Electric he thinks will go from 20/month to 50/month. He also said allowing NS2 to supply NG would drop the costs back down to their old numbers.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 9 2022 11:10 utc | 176

Posted by: Mr Y | Aug 9 2022 10:59 utc | 184
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Stoltenberg, the Norwegian doesn’t think that way, siding with the modern Nazis.

Posted by: rp | Aug 9 2022 11:11 utc | 177

Yesterday, Karlof1 commented on Alastair Crooke’s article published by Strategic Culture Foundation (SCF).
Today, South Front re-published. People that can’t get access to SCF, can read it here:
THE MASQUE OF PANDORA
Alastair starts quoting the insuspect Daily Telegraph (DT). The whole DT article is astonishing, but is behind a paywall. People interested can find a republishing here:
A catastrophic energy crisis will fuel a revolt against our failed elites

Posted by: António Ferrão | Aug 9 2022 11:32 utc | 178

Hybrid is a word that raises the spectre of genetic engineering, which in the context of Ukranian land privatisation and Ukranainian racist neo-Nazism is very worrying indeed.
The US evil empire has form in torture- brainwashing Muslims to become Terrorists, and in selling sterile, genetically modified crops to poor farmers. Its utter criminality is hard to believe.
I don’t know how we got to the point where British Prime Ministers Cameron and Johnson support Ukranian Nazism, but I am so grateful to Mr Putin for stopping US – made Islamist terror in Syria and Iraq, and for stopping Btitish Fascism in Ukraine.
He probably deserves a Peace Prize.
The only way the US can find to control the world is through the carrot of grain and the stick of terror.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 9 2022 11:33 utc | 179

Lex | Aug 8 2022 22:29 utc | 124
I think that the imminent threat that sped things up was that Ukraine was apparently starting an offensive at Donbass which was supposed to proceed further on to Crimea. Indications were not only corresponding decrees of Ukraine along with their refusal to implement the Minsk accords but a significant increase in shelling which was and still is documented by the OSCE Ukraine Mission:
https://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/reports
Note that the increase began on Feb 16th, which was also the date for which Biden first announced the russian offensive.

Posted by: renard | Aug 9 2022 11:39 utc | 180

@k, 119
I used to watch Corbett until February 2014. On that date,he started talking about RUSSIAN AGGRESSION, same words used by our Western Criminals since then. That was the last time I watched him. I remember him using this particular words very well.
YOu are robably right, BOUGHT AND PAID.
By the way, I think he is not from the US, he is Canadian (not 100 % sure)

Posted by: Alejo | Aug 9 2022 11:49 utc | 181

https://www.rt.com/business/560505-strong-ruble-draws-foreign-workers/
More answers to the Yale claims in this propaganda war. The strength of the ruble is also confounding efforts to sell properties as the price of businesses leaving keeps going up.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 9 2022 11:56 utc | 182

dh-mtl@149…how in God’s name do you think the dick will get elected if he toes the current uniparty party line. He won’t. If the media do a hatchet job on him like they did on Bernier, then he may at that time be considered ligit. Bringing out Charet to debate him is a sign they are grooming Polivier for office, esp, if the MSM gives him the golden touch. Once in office, you do know how Epstienism works? They are all compromised can’t be a System Pig and be independent. So hold on to you dreams, the Canadian fellow living in Tokyo sure nailed it. Narcissists.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 9 2022 12:02 utc | 183

Dmitry Medvedev

The main Ukrainian clown proposed “to call to account the entire population of Russia.” The last time Adolf Hitler tried to implement such ideas in relation to an entire nation. Do you have any more questions about the nature of Ukrainian governance?

Posted by: rp | Aug 9 2022 12:26 utc | 184

Speaking of Stoltenberg, Kristian Kahrs told Alex Christoforou that Norway got the post of Secretary-General of NATO as a reward for Norway taking part in the bombing campaign in Libya. So how much more has to be destroyed to satiate some people’s career ambitions?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 9 2022 12:30 utc | 185

The danger at the Ukrainian nuclear plant is similar to Fukushima.
The tsunami removed all outside power and flooded the backup generators. Roads were blocked by debris preventing access.
Removing outside power to the nuclear plant and preventing diesel supplies to keep the backup generators running is all that is needed for disaster.
The spent fuel bays require continuous cooling. Eventualy water evaporates exposing fuel rods to the air in the spent fuel bays and inside the reactor.
Once the fuel overheats it begins releasing hydrogen.
At some point pockets of hydrogen ignite while the burning molten fuel starts heading downwards.
Unless the plant was upgraded recently with western equipment the 40 year old Russian control systems probably do not have the backdoors for sabotage.

Posted by: mi | Aug 9 2022 12:33 utc | 186

Posted by: RZ | Aug 9 2022 6:57 utc | 160
Did the German population put up with 3 years of terror bombing and defeat in the East when all they had to do was getting rid of AH and suing for peace?

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Aug 9 2022 12:35 utc | 187

I don’t think what drives some people like Zelensky or Stoltenberg or Johnson is any dirt of “kompromat”. What hasn’t Zelensky already done in the open? I am beginning to believe that the reason our betters make these disastrous choices is just blind ambition – plain and simple. The more they screw up, the higher their reward.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 9 2022 12:45 utc | 188

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 8 2022 23:48 utc | 130
We have another armchair general who knows better than the Russian government.
– The Russian people in 2014 was not ready to support a SMO; polls showed a 50% support which was understood as not enough for such an operation.
– You know nothing about the degree of readiness of the Russian army in 2014 to wage a liberation war.
– Russia had 8 years to get ready, and now it is obvious that Russia has the upper hand in Ukraine, backed by a set of invincible weapons which are keeping in check the nato countries and are excluding a military world war, except if the collective west wants to commit suicide.
– A defense of the Donbass in 2014, would have been just that, keeping Ukraine alive. Now dismembering Ukraine the Yugoslavian way will be the likely result. Wait and see.
By criticising Russia your are siding with the nazis. Your rant is worth nothing.

Posted by: Olivier | Aug 9 2022 13:00 utc | 189

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 8 2022 23:48 utc | 130
We have another armchair general who knows better than the Russian government.
– The Russian people in 2014 was not ready to support a SMO; polls showed a 50% support which was understood as not enough for such an operation.
– You know nothing about the degree of readiness of the Russian army in 2014 to wage a liberation war.
– Russia had 8 years to get ready, and now it is obvious that Russia has the upper hand in Ukraine, backed by a set of invincible weapons which are keeping in check the nato countries and are excluding a military world war, except if the collective west wants to commit suicide.
– A defense of the Donbass in 2014, would have been just that, keeping Ukraine alive. Now dismembering Ukraine the Yugoslavian way will be the likely result. Wait and see.
By criticising Russia your are siding with the nazis. Your rant is worth nothing.
Posted by: Olivier | Aug 9 2022 13:00 utc | 200

Posted by: Olivier | Aug 9 2022 13:01 utc | 190

@Petri Krohn | Aug 9 2022 2:16 utc | 139
You can’t really expect anything else from them? The “Russia will attack all Europe” story is dead now so other “dangers” have to be invented, maybe someone sends troops or something.
It’s true that Ukr, that is US, might want to explode one or more npps in revenge and for fun. So we’ll have to watch and see, not much to talk about until someone changes the nazi regime. Which doesn’t seem to be on Russia’s list of things to do for some strange reason no one can explain.

Posted by: rk | Aug 9 2022 13:02 utc | 191

It appears MoA has attracted the attention of professional (or maybe semi-pro) trolls. Again, you get the most flak when you are over the target.
OOOOH, kicked a hornet’s nest it seems. Even dragged out my “boomer” age bracket, nice agism.
To all the folks who jumped on me for noting that PRAGMATICALLY, Poilievre and the younger Cons are probably the best option to peacefully, decisively defeat the Trudeau/Freeland/Singh regime AT THE POLLS and reverse the ILLEGAL attacks on our RIGHTS and FREEDOMS:
Poilievre was one of a handful of MPs that made it known he was willing to talk to the truckers. And he actually walked the streets of Ottawa during the Convoy with minimal security detail. He would stop and talk to people, unlike most of the rest of the House/Senate. He saw the protest for what it was: legal. The judge said so, and only required the noise level come down, despite the MSM and Ottawa police/council acting otherwise in a blatant Contempt of Court. How else could the truckers communicate the insistence on their legal RIGHTS and FREEDOMS to a ruling class that barricaded themselves and refused to listen? It could have been a Sri Lanka-style protest, BUT IT WAS NOT. Bouncy castles, cleaner streets, homeless people fed, 90% lower crime rate.
Sorry, but realistically the Greens are a non-entity in Canada. Basically old-school Con-economics with an environmental veneer. Can’t even win with the boomer-hippies that took refuge on the Left Coast. Even if this is not the reality, that is the perception with voters, and the recent dirty infighting hasn’t helped their image.
The NDP has been idiotic enough to be infiltrated and led by “ex”-Liberals and political opportunists for too long. Layton was no saint, but he would NOT have made THIS deal with Trudy’s Cabal. Rae, Mulcaire, and now Singh have gutted the “worker’s party”. Until the grassroots grows a spine and turfs out the WEF moles, not going to overthrow Trudy’s cabal. EVER, and in the unlikely event the current NDP won, no change on that front from what we have now, as WEF Singh and his gang appears to be well-ensconced in the NDP power structure.
Are any “Canuck” voters stupid enough to vote Liberal after the 2 1/2 years of Trudy Tyranny (TM)? Of course, but they are the click-whir voters, same as the “base” the Cons relied on since forever.
As sad as it is, Poilievre is the best HOPE we have of removing a political cancer from what passes for democracy these days. This is not the time for pie-in-the-sky voting.
600,000 Canadians joined the Conservative Party and paid $10. The Libs got no where near that and Lib memberships were FREE. The NDP… ’tis to laugh.
What’s the old capitalist meme about the public? Oh ya, “They vote with their dollars.”
Considering most Federal elections only attract just over 60% with the Cons and Libs fighting over a few percentage points consisting of a few hundred thousand SWING voters, 600,000 is a BIG thumb on the scale.
A side note on Corbett. In my opinion, he is mostly selling info-tainment, with a side of political commentary. Little fish, big pond.
That he is a Canadian living in Japan is mostly irrelevant. We are not going to see the Borg walking through downtown anytime soon, but the bio-medical technology apparently coming into being has serious implications for what it will mean to be “human” in the not-so-distant future. Is he correct? Nobody knows… yet.
My final word on the intricacies of the upcoming Con leadership and next Federal election (assuming Trudy doesn’t just declare himself Overlord of Canada instead) is: WE SHALL SEE.
Continue to argue amongst yourselves if you wish, but Trudy HAS to go. If not Poilievre, then who?

Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 9 2022 13:03 utc | 192

An air-base in Crimea appears to have been hit some minutes ago. So far, no concrete information on how this was accomplished, although Ukrainian personas online are already dancing around some HIMARS wunderwaffe narrative. The air-base is located roughly 260km from Odessa. Initial reports suggests 2 casualties, not clear dead or wounded.

Posted by: Skiffer | Aug 9 2022 13:30 utc | 193

Posted by: Exile | Aug 8 2022 7:42 utc | 4
“A very solid Essay, thought provoking.”
Very much agree. Some time ago Colonel Lang identified “b” as a fine military analyst. That’s what sent me to MOA.
Indeed, “b”‘s site and the comments have also served throughout the war as a collecting point for sources on the military conflict. There are other sites, and good ones, that hoover up sources too but I think none as comprehensive as here. It’s sources one wants to be directed to and they are here in profusion.
But “b” goes further than that and relates the military conflict to the wider international scene. Again, other sites do that too but in all of them I find two gaps that none fill.
The first is a gap I don’t think it’s easy for anyone to fill:- the reactions of the Ukrainians themselves to the domination of the Ukrainian political scene by the corrupt, and the extremists the corrupt make use of, that we’ve seen since 2014.
Sleboda and Ishchenko fill that gap to an extent, but only to a small extent. Mozgovoi’s “If they knew who the real enemy was the fighting would stop tomorrow” told us that our take on the Ukrainian political scene is dangerously shallow, particularly when we focus more on the sometimes superficial division of the population into those who are “pro-Russian” or feel they have a “Russian identity” and those who aren’t or don’t so feel.
Because the Ukrainians are not only a people with a multiplicity of identities. They are people living in a dramatically dysfunctional polity, one that has been made more so by external intervention. By the end of the SMO there won’t be such a lot of that polity left – but what is left will confront the same problems and it is our understanding of those problems that is defective.
Similarly defective is the take in the States on “Yurup”. That is the second gap. In the States the tendency is to think of Europe – the EU countries, the candidate countries, and the satellite countries Norway, the UK and Switzerland – as an undifferentiated mass of little interest except is as far as they serve as the battleground between Washington and Moscow.
Since Scholz failed on Minsk 2 – if he ever tried – I’m tending to see Europe, or the Northern European countries at least, as having more agency than that. You say –
“Economic Front – it’s unlikely that Euro politicians will change their sanctions tune. Euro Pols are intensely Atlantists. Even if the current Euro gov‘ts fall and new elections are held; the new gov‘t will still be Atlantist. The only real possibility for a change in European attitude towards Eurasian lies in Washington. Only, If there is a dramatic change in Washington‘s foreign policy consensus will the Euros change.”
I don’t know. I really don’t know. But I suspect that for the States the focus on Russia as the enemy is more a product of the foreign policy imperatives of what Colonel Lang calls “the blob” – the American foreign policy establishment. No more that that. I don’t see America as a profoundly Russophobic country.
Not so sure about Northern Europe. For the Russians the “White Tiger” comes out of Europe, not the States. It may be that the Russians have the sounder insight.

Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 9 2022 13:35 utc | 194

@Skiffer | Aug 9 2022 13:30 utc | 204
Yes, it seems it’s an ammo depot on a military airfield which exploded something. Publicly Ukr doesn’t have long range himars yet. If it was an attack or not it’s unknown. Twitter warriors think it was Ghost on Kiev

Posted by: rk | Aug 9 2022 13:44 utc | 195

we cannot vote our way out the WEF
Anyone … anyone who makes it to the end game is controlled opposition. All bases have been covered.
Massive civil disobediance will be required to exterminate them.
We are not there yet if we depend on wishful thinking.
Trudeau has no agency he is just a part-time drama teacher; the front man. Anyone who ‘defeats’ him no matter what side of the aisle, is on board with the agenda… will be on board or will be smeared beyond all recognition.

Posted by: ld | Aug 9 2022 13:44 utc | 196

re: Saki Airbase strike – could have been an aviation accident although probably not, given the number of secondary explosions. Lots of black smoke looks like a hit on fuel storage. Could be long range HIMARS ammo but I think we’d know if ATACMS were in theater. Neptune has the range and a secondary ground-attack mode, that’s my guess, but also a pre-programmed AG-88M HARM is possible although range might be too far for a standoff attack with that.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1556996656079507456

Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 9 2022 13:57 utc | 197

In response to rk@207,
Ministry of Defense RF — as regards the explosions in Crimea:
“On August 9, at about 15.20, on the territory of the Saki airfield near the Novofedorovka settlement, several aviation ammunition detonated on a bunded storage site.
No one was injured in the explosion. Aviation equipment at the airport was not damaged.
Measures are being taken to extinguish the fire and find out the causes of the explosion.
According to the report from the site, there was no fire impact on the bunded ammunition storage area at the airfield.”

Posted by: Skiffer | Aug 9 2022 13:58 utc | 198

@Skiffer, are they suggesting it was a spontaneous combustion? LOL!

Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 9 2022 14:06 utc | 199

In response to Yenwoda@209,
No, they’re only ruling out impact strikes such as missiles and the like. It isn’t yet determined whether it was an accident, criminal negligence or the result of planted explosives, though some Crimean official appears to have claimed that a fire started at a fuel hub while offloading, after which it spread to ammunition stockpiles.

Posted by: Skiffer | Aug 9 2022 14:15 utc | 200