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August 19, 2022

Open (NOT Ukraine) Thread 2022-134

Dear readers,
I had to spend today with organizing for some unexpected maintenance need in my apartment. I therefore did not have time to read, and to write a new post. I hope that all will be fixed by tomorrow and will see you then.

News & views not related to the Ukraine conflict ...

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"America and NATO partied like it was 1999 (it was) in Serbia in order to forcibly take Kosovo away from them and turn it into a new country to be protected by America and NATO forces (never-U-mind the big gold mine, shhh.) Even though Kosovo was the literal historic heartland of the Serbian people that didn’t matter (tear it down for justice innit). After many years of illegal immigration from neighboring Albania into Kosovo what ensued were a religion based separatist movement and militia, yeah, which developed into a movement by them milittantes for skipping out of Serbia with Kosovo under their jackets as a new country for “Kosovar Albanians.” Because, frak Albania, we wants us some Serbia!" From A history of how we ended up in this sorry mess

Posted by: Baba | Aug 19 2022 17:52 utc | 1

Yesterday Putin held a discussion about the shipbuilding industry that eventually discussed the project for constructing a new facility at Kronstadt. That Russia needs another shipbuilding facility gives an indication of future plans. This excerpt relates civilian construction:

"In general, the capacity utilization of the industry is now quite high. At 63 shipbuilding enterprises, about 300 vessels and marine equipment are in various stages of construction. In addition, the needs of public and private customers collected by the Ministry of Industry and Trade until 2035 still contain more than 700 vessels of various types, but so far not all have technical characteristics, as well as financial support and, accordingly, the availability of firm orders."

One Thousand vessels of various types to be built over the next 13 years is about 77 per year. An article by Forbes last year reported:

A nation that was among the world’s leaders in commercial shipbuilding at key junctures in its history today builds less than 10 vessels for oceangoing commerce in a typical year.

China builds over a thousand such ships each year.

The entire U.S.-registered fleet of oceangoing commercial ships numbers fewer than 200 vessels, out of a global total of 44,000.

And despite trade flows to and from America exceeding a trillion dollars annually—the vast preponderance of which travel by sea—U.S.-registered ships carry barely 1% of that traffic.

Naval construction mirrors the commercial for all three. I should note that Russia's internal waterway network demands specific sized vessels that it builds and then there're the Ice Class vessels that aren't icebreakers per se but are built to deal with Northern Sea Route conditions. A fast-track national priority is improvement to the internal waterway system to accommodate larger vessels and infrastructure to support high speed hydrofoil transport of passengers and goods. Lots of Win-Win activities impervious to sanctions are moving ahead. New technologies in the form of electric catamarans, Ecocruiser and Ecobus, are being deployed, the solar powered ones make great sense for the Caspian region.

Russian shipbuilding may not be as dynamic as China's, but both drown the Outlaw US Empire's capabilities. It's so lopsided that any comparison can't be made. And that includes Naval Buildings too.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 19 2022 18:24 utc | 2

Below is a link to an actuarial report prepared by the insurance industry

The description of the report
The Group Life COVID-19 Mortality Survey gathers a high-level view of U.S. Group Term Life Insurance mortality results during the COVID-19 pandemic through March 2022, as compared to prior period baseline mortality results.

The link

The industry is reporting between 20% to almost 40% increase in deaths across all age groups......

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2022 19:02 utc | 3

Is there any word on what happened to Gonzalo Lira on Thursday? He seems to be back on Twitter but he hasn't addressed it.

Posted by: Vegella | Aug 19 2022 19:06 utc | 4

Not only is the main story in The UK's press. a complete distraction from everything else that is going on (all the hospitals are full of dead people trying to get in - and soon you are all going to freeze and starve to death)...

Its also completely ridiculous that it is publicised, and also completely normal - didn't you write poems to your girlfriend?

Sir Alex Furgoson demonstrated, what it is like to be a Team Leader (much closer than a Manager) _ From The Daily Telegraph..Who couldn't Love a Boss like that?

"Ryan Giggs trial: Sir Alex Ferguson never saw winger lose his temper, court hears "

Sir Alex Ferguson has never seen Ryan Giggs lose his temper and he was "best example" of a footballer the former manager had ever worked with at Manchester United, a court heard yesterday.

The 80-year-old entered the witness box to give evidence in the trial of his former protege, who faces charges of coercion and assault against his ex-girlfriend Kate Greville, 36.

He said Mr Giggs had a “fantastic temperament”.

"To have a career as long as he had in a difficult position, in terms of energy, he fulfilled everything we ever wished for," he said.

"He was the best example I’ve had at any club. Everyone looked at Ryan as the number one." Asked if he had ever seen Mr Giggs lose his temper during his 27 years as manager, Sir Alex answered: "No, no."

The 80-year-old recalled how Mr Giggs, now 48, was regularly at the receiving end of the manager’s famous dressing room tongue-lashings as he got older.

He told the court: "I used Ryan a lot in the sense of when I lost my temper about the performance, I'd use Ryan as an example sometimes and he got the sharp end of the tongue.

"He could take it. He was strong enough," Sir Alex said before exhaling sharply, mimicking his former players sitting up and taking notice, and continued: "Everyone else in the dressing room would think: ‘If Ryan Giggs can take it, we can all take it’."

The jury were told how Sir Alex swooped to sign the 13-year-old Welsh schoolboy from under the noses of rivals Manchester City when he and his then assistant Archie Knox went to the Giggs family home.

Sir Alex dealt with Mr Giggs’ mother, Lynne, who he described as "very good and accommodating".

He told the jury how he had to "look after" Mr Giggs, adding: "The thing was the press, the media started comparing him to George Best and we had to face a lot of media attention on the boy and I said to his mother, ‘If you trust me I’ll look after him’ and if anyone from the media wanted him, they had to come through me.

"The next George Best, that’s a big thing, a big issue. But the boy was great, no problems."

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Aug 19 2022 19:34 utc | 5

War? Nah, just plunder.
How about Yemen?

Tweet From Mike Wallace (he's a goodie if you don't know, Along with Claire Daly, who are almost the only people who denounce wars and effects of wars in the EU Parliament)

UN says a child dies every 75 seconds from hunger in #Yemen - Why has #EU supported the #US backed #Saudi #UAE Genocide in #Yemen.? The US backed Coalition has bombed Food infrastructure + Hospitals, blocked Medicine, Food + Fuel from entering Yemen - Is EU a total US pawn now..?

France? they will "secure" (rob) the gas to keep the EU supplied with fresh baked baguettes and brioches. "Let us eat cake (brioche) and like it". said Marie Antoinette, "so send in the foreign legion".

France reportedly aims to export gas from the facility in Shabwah in order to reduce Europe's reliance on Russian fuel

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 19 2022 19:36 utc | 6

After running circles for two weeks North of Taiwan And staying way outside of China's missile range, it seems that the Reagan has tucked its tail and gone back to Japan,where the sailors are free to run over some random Japanese with a simple slap on the wrist.

Posted by: cindy6 | Aug 19 2022 19:38 utc | 7

psychohistorian | Aug 19 2022 19:02 utc | 2

Hidden death syndrome? Is there an afterlife after the Vaxx?
This is for a similar situation in the UK:

I saw a recent map with relevant amounts for the EU. I will try to find it again. Estonia was at the top of the countries with unexplained numbers of people dying.
The UK among others are trying to link the deaths with "lockdowns", which is rubbish.

However, this is going to go a long way to bring the "massive depopulation" of the Schwab and Gates clique nearer. They can't hide it much longer.

Germany is providing tanks to some of it's regions, for population "control"? I wonder how the armed forces and police will react when they find out about the effects from their own obligatory jabs?

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 19 2022 20:01 utc | 8

psychohistorian | Aug 19 2022 19:02 utc | 2

Sorry, NOT the same periods. I wrote my "reply" before I followed your link. However, it will be interesting to see the most recent figures, and will they separate SAD deaths from simple excesses?

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 19 2022 20:07 utc | 9

from the Woods translation, Mephisto's description of what he is permitted to describe in "hell's horrid hole", in Mann's 'Faustus' p. 261.

"It is right to say that it will be quite loud in a sound-tight hell, loud beyond measure, filling the ear to more than overflowing with bawling and squalling, yowling, moaning, bellowing, gurgling, screeching, wailing, croaking, pleading, and exuberant tortured cries, so that none will hear his own tune, for it is smothered in the general, tight, dense, hellish jubilee and abject trilling extracted by the eternal infliction of the unbelievable and unanswerable. Nor to forget the monstrous groaning of lust commingled therein, because an endless torment to which no limit is set-no faltering in its travail, no collapse, no impotencedegenerates instead into obscene pleasure, which is indeed why those with some intuitive knowledge also speak of the 'lusts of hell.' Thereto, however, is linked the element of mockage and extreme ignominy that is bound up in the torment; for this hellish bliss is much the same as a most pitiable taunting of the immeasurable suffering and is accompanied by fingers pointed in scorn and whinnying laughter-whence the doctrine that the damned must bear mockery and shame together with their agony, indeed, that hell is to be defined as a monstrous combination of derision and entirely unbearable sufferings that are nonetheless to be eternally endured. They shall devour their tongues at so great a pain, yet form no fellowship against it, but rather are full of scorn and mockery for one another, and midst trills and groans call out filthiest curses each to each, whereby those most refined and proud, who never let a foul word pass their lips, are forced to employ the filthiest. A portion of their anguish and obscene lust consists in having to muse upon whatever is utterly filthy."

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 19 2022 20:13 utc | 10

I put this on the end of the old open thread so will repost

Australia excess deaths. An interesting chart. Death rate well above previous five year average coincides with covid vaccinations. Dropped back into the five year average due to social distancing and masks during the winter flue season, then rose well above average again.

The spike in January 22 matches the spike in covid deaths.

Prior to the coronavirus spike, death rates should have been below the five year average due to masks and social distancing and non transmission of flu. My daughter, a nurse, remarked early on - a couple of months into masks and social distancing that they simply had no flu patients. Excess deaths coincides with vaccine rollout.

The January spike I believe was both omicron and delta. The July spike omicron which is less lethal than delta and the original strains. Peaked at about 150 deaths per day. Per capita that would be equal to 2100 in the US. 90% + vaccinated population, mild coronavirus strain...

US big pharma and its covid vaccines is no different to Boeing and its 737 max.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2022 20:15 utc | 11

I arrived late to the party from what I guess was yesterday's O/T. Wanted to continue here. c1ue and a couple of other people were going back and forth about the FSMA signed by Clinton in the late 90s, and which led to the 2008 financial meltdown in the US and globally. The FSMA was a Republican wet dream dating back to Richard Nixon. I hadn't been really cognizant of the fact, but someone pointed out that Clinton had been the first Democrat president in 12 years when he got elected (and essentially served as a Republican-lite in office). Clinton, Biden and Obama are all 'company men' and never would have been elected if it were otherwise. The same goes without saying for the Rethugs and Trump.

Buuuut...the FSMA or Gramm Leach Bliley Act was a Republican creation from the get-go. That the R's had the good fortune of having such a pliable fool in the White House was all that was needed to gut financial regulations (and also as discussed, finalize NAFTA).

The term "too big to fail" was first used, to my knowledge, by a Michigan Democrat.

During debate in the House of Representatives, Rep. John Dingell (Democrat of Michigan) argued that the bill would result in banks becoming "too big to fail." Dingell further argued that this would necessarily result in a bailout by the Federal Government.

The House passed its version of the Financial Services Act of 1999 on July 1, 1999, by a bipartisan vote of 343–86 (Republicans 205–16; Democrats 138–69; Independent 0–1), two months after the Senate had already passed its version of the bill on May 6 by a much narrower 54–44 vote along basically partisan lines (53 Republicans and 1 Democrat in favor; 44 Democrats opposed).

from WikiCiaPedia.

He was correct. Did the Democrats lay claim to the "party of the people" image? Certainly, but are you telling me that the Republicans aren't now hypocritically doing the same? Kabuki theater, divide-and-distract, uniparty rule. As usual in the USSA. Any arguments about 80s and 90s mythology are pointless.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2022 20:49 utc | 12

Posted by: Vegella | Aug 19 2022 19:06 utc | 3

I had the same question earlier at another site. Is there any more information on his status? It's easy for an imposter to assume/resume Twitter activity if he was kidnapped and his devices were unlocked. Is Lira OK?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2022 20:52 utc | 13

How to interpret and debate the wave of (Democrat-pushed!) Copaganda coming soon to the USSA:

An excerpt -

The following are some quotes that can be inserted directly into virtually every news article about public safety that talks about “crime data” or “crime rates” or “crime surges” or a “crime wave.”

“Property crime data reported by the police excludes most property crime, including wage theft by employers (which costs low-wage workers about $50 billion per year, more than 3 times more than all police-reported property crime that makes its way into “crime rates”), and tax evasion, which steals about $1 trillion every year (which is about 20 times more than all wage theft and about 63 times more than all police-reported property crime combined).”

“Violent crime data reported by police excludes nearly all of the violent crimes committed by police and jail guards, which experts estimate to include several million physical and sexual assaults each year. Given their magnitude, including the crimes by government employees in crime statistics could entirely change the direction of crime trends reported by police at any given time.”1

“The vast majority of sexual assault and gender-based violence is not reported to police and never makes it into official “crime rates” reported in the media because most survivors of such violence determine that police, prosecutor, and prison bureaucracies are not a viable or effective way to address that harm.”

“Police-reported crime rates are generally lower in societies that spend less money on police, prosecutors, and prisons and that spend more money on health care, treatment, early childhood education, youth activities, poverty reduction, and wellness.”

Police-reported property crime rates exclude civil forfeiture seizures by police themselves (which roughly equal all reported burglary combined), a large percentage of which are illegal.”

“The vast majority of all other types of crime—such as air and water pollution crimes, police perjury, prosecutor obstruction of justice, government corruption, insider stock trading, foreign bribery, etc.—are never reported to police and never pursued by prosecutors, and therefore they never show up in police-reported crime rates. Crime rates tend to capture a small subset of police-reported crimes committed by the poor, and to exclude crimes committed by the wealthy.”

“Across the United States, there have been numerous scandals of police departments manipulating reported crime rates and the mechanisms for collecting and reporting crimes in service of a political agenda.”

“When evaluating holistic safety, experts caution that it is important to keep in mind that many of the greatest threats to community public safety are not defined as crimes at all. The process of determining which harms are criminalized and which are not is a highly political process that has more to do with power than an objective evaluation of which activities are the most significant threats to public safety.”

Another important issue requiring disclaimers is the failure of most news stories to provide the proper context for the government or corporate officials who are being quoted. Every article could include the following directly after quoting a police officer or prosecutor or expert:

"Police officials have been shown to regularly make false and misleading statements to the media in order to mislead the public in service of a political agenda."

“Prosecutors have been shown to regularly make false and misleading statements to the media in order to mislead the public in service of a political agenda."

“The professor offered as an expert in this article is a [insert appropriate label: former police officer, former prosecutor, consultant who profits from consulting with police departments] who has a conflict of interest in the subject matter for which our news outlet sought their opinion.”

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2022 21:01 utc | 14

Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2022 20:15 utc | 10
on Jan 1, 2022, incidents in Australia began to increase in the following categories, per the worldometers link you provided:

Total Coronavirus Cases; Daily New Cases; Active Cases; Total Coronavirus Deaths; Daily New Deaths; Newly Infected vs. Newly Recovered; Outcome of Cases (Recovery or Death).

That's 7 categories that began to skyrocket precisely at the moment when public health measures against the virus were being dismantled as quickly as possible.

yet somehow: "Excess deaths coincides with vaccine rollout."


"US big pharma and its covid vaccines is no different to Boeing and its 737 max."

ok then. thanks for this info but it doesn't look like the info in those links supports your claims. quite the opposite in fact.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 19 2022 21:08 utc | 15

I never posted on Twitter, but had to give up posting on Facebook, because over 75% of my Friends, actually believed it...

They did not appreciate my sense of humour, about the lack of dead bodies in the Street - nor the clips from Monty Python - "Bring out Your Dead" and Logans Run - even with Jenny....

I knew it was a Massive Psy-Op, but the extent of it blew my head off...

Almost everyone believed it..

The first Journalist, that I am aware who Challenged It, and got publicied and wrote a book about it (though still treading a fine line) was the girl who wrote "The State of Fear"

A State of Fear: How the UK government weaponised fear during the Covid-19 pandemic Paperback – 16 May 2021
by Laura Dodsworth (Author)

Posted by: tony_0pmoc | Aug 19 2022 21:10 utc | 16

Not a parody:

Japan launches nationwide competition to boost alcohol consumption

Posted by: David Levin | Aug 19 2022 21:28 utc | 17

@Tom_Q_Collins #11
Bills get brought up all the time, and then get vetoed. In case you have forgotten, that's why we have a legislative AND an executive branch.

Your ongoing Republican-Derangement-Syndrome completely overlooks the role Clinton played in all manner of deregulation during his 8 years - of which Glass Steagall was the climax.

Equally, your Republican-Derangement-Syndrome blinds you to the reality that Clinton's non-veto was not an anomaly. The architect of the Citigroup-Traveller's merger - arguable the single greatest corporate force behind the repeal of Glass-Steagall was Robert Rubin. Rubin was Secretary of the Treasury under Clinton; resigned to join Citigroup 2 months before Larry Summers (his successor) completed the repeal of Glass Steagall.

But whatever: your posts continue to be nothing more than rants and attacks on people who don't toe your ideological line, as opposed to being informative or useful.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 19 2022 21:32 utc | 18

@psychohistorian | Aug 19 2022 19:02 utc | 2

Hidden death syndrome? Is there an afterlife after the Vaxx?

Well taking the jab, was like playing Russian Roulette...if you got lucky first couple of shots, you are extremely lucky

If you got the Clot Shot

Good luck..

With regards to life after death, well my theory is either 0 - dead - that's it - or infinity. and your next experience is sucking your own thumb in mothers womb, and hearing children playing outside. I could of course be wrong. I only vaguely remember it.

None of my immediate family have been jabbed

Apart from me, (fat old bastard), they all seem pretty fit.

I should be, once I've finished laying the new kitchen flooring, whilst wife, son, and grandkids are away. Sure its hard work, but I haven't got anyone telling me how to do it.

Posted by: tony_0pmoc | Aug 19 2022 21:40 utc | 19

rjb1.5 | Aug 19 2022 21:08 utc | #14

The vaccines were rolled out in Australia beginning about Feb. 2021. It is the high excess mortality in the early part of the graph shown, before covid even made it to most of Oz, that is consistent with vaccine harm.

Posted by: Dave | Aug 19 2022 22:16 utc | 20

rjb1.5 | Aug 19 2022 21:08 utc | 14

Re-read Dave @19 noted the vaccine rollout excess deaths that show in the charts. Excess deaths when virtually no flu. Then when 90% of the population are vaccinated omicron deaths spike to the equivalent of 2100 in the US?

Vaccines are judged by how many they help and how many they harm. Covid vaccines, especially US big pharma appear to harm a lot and help perhaps a few. It is starting to look like in the under fifties age group, US big pharma does more harm than good.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2022 22:38 utc | 21

More about insurance statistics

Life Insurance Companies Across the Board See Staggering Increase in Death Benefit Payouts

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2022 22:55 utc | 22

I remember the winter of 1963. My older brother and me, built an igloo in our back garden...The window was made out a block of ice. We asked our mum for an oblong cake container - filled it up with water, and our window froze solid overnight...

We built it at Christmas. Most of it was still there at Easter on the South (warm side of Oldham)

We had electricity, but we had no gas supply..

We had a coalman. He turned up with his horse and cart, and filled our coalshed up with coal.

It was my job, when I was 7 years old, when I got home from school so cold I couldn't wee.. to unlock the back door, and quickly close it and get the coal fire going....before my older brothers and sisters and boyfriends and girlfriends got back, whilst my mum and dad were at work..

I turned on the Telly and The Beatles were on.

I thought it was Brilliant, so I am ordering another 13 bags of smokeless coal.

I have got another Grandchild due to be born in October, and she is going to have a warm welcome, even if it is incredibly cold, which I expect...

Prepare for it - canned and dried food, and a camping gas burner and spare gas cans, and torches - and rechargeable batteries and LED lights. If you lose Mains AC/DC, you will almost certainly use your gas central heating, and your alarm clock won't work for long maybe skis too, or at least snowgrips, and maybe snowchains on your tyres..and a shovel

Its a lot of fun, when you think you may freeze to death, and walk into a warm house, and they try and defrost you in front of a blazing coal fire....and you go back outside and roll in the snow in the back garden..knowing that you are back home, and you are going to survive cos you are with your family.

When you get really cold, strong heat is extremely painful...You need to warm up gradually, but I didn't have a Girlfriend then.

Expect it to get Very Cold and Prepare

They are trying to kill us.


Posted by: tony_0pmoc | Aug 19 2022 23:05 utc | 23

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC, which is under the U. S. Public Health Service) has issued revised guidance on minimizing the impact of COVID.

Jeffrey Tucker faults CDC (rightly, in my view) for having maintained its previous guidance for so long.

Posted by: David Levin | Aug 19 2022 23:11 utc | 24

I just learned that Dr. Malone has filed a law suit against the Washington Post

Read more about it at his substack link below

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2022 23:29 utc | 25

@ psychohistorian | Aug 19 2022 23:29 utc | 24

thanks for the update..

Posted by: james | Aug 20 2022 0:39 utc | 26

from the worldometers link:

2353 deaths as of 21/12/31
12886 deaths as of 22/8/15

Dave | Aug 19 2022 22:16 utc | 19
Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2022 22:38 utc | 20

the data absolutely does not support what you are claiming.

if we look at the US data, except for the total deaths chart showing the unwavering indifference of the ruling class, all other data corresponds to the cycle of the school year. when schools open in the late summer and again in early winter, cases etc. go up up up.

i'm not suggesting to take or not take any vaccine. since the state has abandoned any attempts to eliminate the virus, it doesn't matter, imo. people's lifespans are dropping and they could care less what the cause is. speaking for us in Criscoville, USA, that is. pass the menthols and the natty ice, please.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 1:27 utc | 27

Tom Collins 11; also note that any "conforming loan" was utterly secure, never went underwater; only the non-conforming loans were junk, the loans that were 103% of home value (at the end of a bubble) no paper loans that Fannie and Freddy would never accept, but only were exposed to in bundling as a reinvestment strategy. If they'd followed the "socialist" standards the "bubble" would have been a brief stall; but it was unregulated speculation, financial malfeasance in bundling CDO's and other "private" actions that made the bubble so bad, and put the gov't on the hook for so much. Also, the E and O of appraisers should have paid for many of those late unfounded bubble valuations, but after all the insurers are the same people as the banks; so it was easier to bail out everybody. It's all such a charade. Wall St rules, and we'll blame it all on "socialism" No good deed goes unpunished. And bad deeds get rewarded (these guys never articulate the corollary)

Posted by: scottindallas | Aug 20 2022 1:49 utc | 28

Tony Opmoc, the Beatles weren't on the telly that early; your memories are flawed; only outlaw radio had the Beatles, but they were broadcast in the US before they were broadcast on the BBC. It was a fellow Dallasite that rocked England with an offshore boat

Posted by: scottindallas | Aug 20 2022 2:27 utc | 29

Response to @Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2022 20:52 utc | 12

Lira reappeared on Twitter within a half an hour of the original report of his collapse and let out a spasm of tweets and retweets, none of which were particularly illuminating. The only thing that's known for sure is that he was livestreaming a roundtable on Thursday (guests unknown) but the video was never posted to YouTube. I've never been able to make sense of how he is free to broadcast at will against the Zelensky regime despite having been arrested, but i doubt its anything to do with cloak and dagger. Some pro-Western Youtuber posted a video a few days ago saying Lira threatened him and read out their communications. If they were accurate it looks like Lira may be having some emotional issues due to his having been couped up so long. Hard to tell without him posting anything relevant to this.

Posted by: Michelston | Aug 20 2022 2:45 utc | 30

The US employs hate-filled violence throughout the world, but doesn't like it when this international misbehavior goes domestic.

. . .from the White House

Hate must have no safe harbor in America—especially when that hate fuels the kind of violence we’ve seen from Oak Creek to Pittsburgh, from El Paso to Poway, and from Atlanta to Buffalo. When we cannot settle our differences of opinion peacefully, and when ordinary Americans cannot participate in the basic activities of everyday life—like shopping at the grocery store, praying at their house of worship, or casting a ballot—without the fear of being targeted and killed for who they are, our democracy is at risk.
That’s why, on Thursday, September 15, President Biden will host the United We Stand Summit at the White House to counter the corrosive effects of hate-fueled violence on our democracy and public safety, highlight the response of the Biden-Harris Administration and communities nationwide to these dangers, and put forward a shared, bipartisan vision for a more united America. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 20 2022 2:54 utc | 31

.....If you got the Clot Shot...... lets get real do you or anyone still believe in Blood Clod conspiracy theory? I for one never trust anything churns out by the Americans or anything from NATO.... and remain skeptic of mNRA vaccines... I remained self imposed Lockdown... barely alive but alive!

However Shanghai pharmaceutical company (Stemirna Therapeutics) just released a mNRA vaccine...passed I and II clinical trials, now in stage lll clinical trial in Laos... and if available will take them..

PS I was off-line due to memory loss and walking problems compounded with extreme heat waves..

Posted by: JC | Aug 20 2022 3:02 utc | 32

The USA hates being kicked off the lily pad but it sure might need to get used to it. Afghan gone, Iraq problematic, Syria tenuous, Ukraine expensive etc, etc,.

is an oldie but a goodie from 2012 as a reminder of the pernicious evil of the USA military.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 20 2022 3:51 utc | 33

Scott in Dallas [27]

There was a period under Clinton where bond issuance by Treasury went negative. Wall Street traders needed Synthetic Treasuries so bundled CMOs and use CDS to create a rating.

Once quality mortgages had moved off bank and S&L sheets pools of capital were created to originate lower quality mortgages to dilute remaining stock of quality mortgages into new CMOs

This is how Northern Rock in UK operated through Granite its offshore SIV and have NR 50% market share of mortgages but created so much demand for CMOs it was driven to generate more and more

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 20 2022 4:21 utc | 34

But whatever: your posts continue to be nothing more than rants and attacks on people who don't toe your ideological line, as opposed to being informative or useful.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 19 2022 21:32 utc | 17

Your own blindness to the same exact issue with your own political posts, all very well grounded in 90s and Bush-era Rush Limbaugh bullshit opinion screeding on the radio, are the epitome of your statement. I actually enjoy reading your commentary on the semiconductor industry (I was once a VLSI engineer for Motorola and so far nothing you've said is inaccurate), but it's your blazing blindness on R vs. D politics and man made global warming that make me think of you as nothing more than the Simpson's grandpa yelling at clouds.

Also the post to which I'm responding only cemented that you're suffering from Democrat Derangement Syndrome and the "vast rightwing conspiracy" that Killary always complained about. You're merely accusing your accusers of being you. Boring as fuq.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 20 2022 4:30 utc | 35

Wall St rules, and we'll blame it all on "socialism" No good deed goes unpunished. And bad deeds get rewarded (these guys never articulate the corollary)

Posted by: scottindallas | Aug 20 2022 1:49 utc | 27

I don't have any argument with that and my statement about underwater loans was, perhaps naively, based on Matt Taibbi, admittedly not a real "finance" guy, and his reporting.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 20 2022 4:32 utc | 36

1 in every 43 teens receiving the mRNA vaccine showed signs of heart problems, according to the latest study, from Thailand.

Kim Iverson reported on this story a week ago and I am just now catching up with it. Apologies if this has been discussed already. She discussed this with her guest Dr. Peter McCullough, whom many here will be familiar with.

Here's her video:
Alarmingly High Rates Of Teen Myocarditis Found In Thailand Preprint 1 in 43 | Dr. Peter McCullough [August 12, 2022]

As Iverson reports:

"It is now well established that the mRNA vaccines cause heart inflammation, particularly amongst teen boys. The question is at what rate? When health officials admitted the Covid vaccines were the cause of the inflammation they said it was extremely rare: one in hundreds of thousands. That number was then modified down to one in fifty thousand, then one in twenty thousand. Now the CDC claims it's about one in twelve thousand.

"But that's based on cases that are actually reported. In places with better, more robust reporting systems like in Hong Kong, the reported rate is closer to one in twenty-five hundred.

"Now a new preprint from researchers in Thailand show the rate might be much, much lower [sic - she means higher]. The study looked at 301 teens between the ages of 13 and 18 and studied their hearts before vaccination and after vaccination using echocardiograms, electrocardiograms and other measurements, and found that three teens in the group developed myocarditis or pericarditis, and an additional four developed subclinical myocarditis.

"That's seven out of three hundred and one."

As Iverson goes on to point out, 7 out of 301 equals 1 in 43.

One out of every forty-three of the teens studied, with a very specific before and after focus, presented with heart damage following their vaccine jab.

The damage is appalling. And as McCullough himself has been at the forefront of pointing out from the very beginning of this tragedy, even one case of myocarditis in a teenager is utterly unusual, worthy of significant attention. These kinds of numbers are vastly beyond any acceptable anomaly: they are increasingly shown and accepted and admitted publicly to be the direct result of the mRNA shot.

Young kids just don't get heart problems out of the blue. The same way that a 40% increase in all-cause death in vaccinated countries around the world just doesn't happen out of the blue.

That "blue" has a lot to answer for.

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 20 2022 4:37 utc | 37

While all the empire puppies look aligned as far as Ukraine goes, it seems the same can't be said about China.

Below is a quote from a Xinhuanet piece about a phone conversation held on Friday between Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi and Emmanuel Bonne, diplomatic counselor to French President Emmanuel Macron.

France always adheres to the one-China policy and is unwavering in its position to respect China's sovereignty and territorial integrity, Bonne said, adding that France hopes that stability across the Taiwan Straits could be maintained through dialogue and consultation.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 20 2022 5:07 utc | 38

@David Levin | Aug 19 2022 21:28 utc | 16

Japan launches nationwide competition to boost alcohol consumption

It's for the sake of the country

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 5:18 utc | 39

psychohistorian | Aug 20 2022 5:07 utc | 37

China looks to be a US, Australia, Japan project with India as a maybe. Though the loyal sergeant Shultz seems to have jumped aboard the boat to nowhere. Brits and Canadians seem to be fixated on Russia. US itself seems split on who it wants to lynch first.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2022 5:31 utc | 40

@tony_0pmoc | Aug 19 2022 23:05 utc | 22

They are trying to kill us.


I was almost commenting on one of your earlier posts, saying I could not quite figure out your message. But I sort of get it now and I think I understand your sentiment. Thanks for sharing. Indeed, the 'authorities' are waging war on us and it has been my impression for at least 15 years, but it has intensified to unimaginable levels the last couple of years to remove any doubt.

Thanks for the story about the heating with coal. I also remember the (late) 1960s when we (the kids) skied in the city parks and went ice skating on natural ice in the middle of our city. We had a kerosene burner at home and sometimes it would be my duty to go and get some. If anything, it gave me a reality lesson on where the heat came from. Kids of today may not be so lucky.

We are many, we will win.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 5:44 utc | 41

ScottinDallas @ 28:

The Beatles' first appearance on television was on a program "People and Places" made by Granada Television. The episode on which the group appeared was broadcast on 17 October 1962 in the north and northwestern parts of England only from Manchester where the program was made.

Tony Opmoc @ 28 mentioned Oldham - that's in the Greater Manchester area in northern England. So he would have been living in the area where people could get Granada Television reception on their TV sets and he might have been able to see The Beatles performing live on TV in 1962.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 20 2022 6:03 utc | 42

We are many, we will win.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 5:44 utc | 40

We are old. Russia and China and the rest of the world will win. All we can hope to do is tell our children and grandchildren what has occurred.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2022 6:10 utc | 43

@Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2022 6:10 utc | 42

When I say 'we', I don't mean the degenerate criminals currently in power in the west. I count Russia and China as part of 'us'. I have family in Asia.

Sure, our duty is to tell what has happened. It is also our duty to never lose hope. My life philosophy is to seek objective truth based on evidence and reason, and I am certain truth will win. It may take time, but not forever.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 6:22 utc | 44

@Michigan Dude | Aug 19 2022 21:19 utc | 36

Will be nice to see Daddy Rus take the belt off and give these spoiled NATO children a good whipping.
That's the US American way. The Russian way appears to be more "Hey NATO, go sit in the corner. When you are done throwing stones you can come and have some supper, but not before".

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 6:43 utc | 45

@Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 6:43 utc | 44

Sorry. Wrong thread

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 6:45 utc | 46

Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 6:43 utc | 44

That post brings back some memories. I liked metalwork at high school but that metalwork teacher could swing a straightedge like Imran Khan could swing a bat.
A mob of us would show up with no homework. He would give us the choice of the straightedge or the corner. First time round I thought that wont hurt too much. It brought tears to my eyes but was then allowed to go and destroy a perfectly good bit of metal. Next time round was hard going to step up. To my surprise he said off you go and the other clowns that should have enrolled in cooking or sowing classes stood in the corner.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2022 7:16 utc | 47

As Iverson goes on to point out, 7 out of 301 equals 1 in 43.
Posted by: Grieved | Aug 20 2022 4:37 utc | 36

1 in 43, 7 in 301???
Maybe simpler and more powerful numbers to language messaging would be,
'2.5% of mRNA vaccinated teens in Thailand show signs of heart problems'.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 20 2022 7:31 utc | 48

I wonder how the armed forces and police will react when they find out about the effects from their own obligatory jabs?

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 19 2022 20:01 utc | 7

That's what the foreign US/Nato/UN forces are always for. To suppress citizens, to shoot any uncooperative local soldiers/police in the back (or in the face), and to take over militarily if necessary.

The average local cop from a little village in Germany or Finland wouldn't want to kill or force vaccinate his neighbours. The cop from the big city cares less (especially if the alternative is getting punished), the soldier from a different European country cares even less, and the mercenaries of the jew private army (Nato) are actually foaming at the mouth to do it.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 20 2022 7:51 utc | 49

Well, would you look at that: not a single member of Antifa at the International Anti-Fascist Congress. What a surprise. When are people going to realize that Antifa IS fascism. Antifa IS empire. Antifa IS dedicated to destroying families, national sovereignty, and the right to self-determination. Antifa IS a US-government-affiliated organization built on principles of negative identity and built to destroy those who want to emancipate themselves.

Posted by: Donald | Aug 20 2022 8:50 utc | 50

Will be nice to see Daddy Rus take the belt off and give these spoiled NATO children a good whipping.

Not sure I share your delight and glee in the prospect of people dying and being maimed and of infrastructure being destroyed. When you know how much effort goes into to building businesses and homes and lives - it seems diabolical to express joy and longing for destruction and death.........

No doubt CCTV cameras at Auschwitz-Birkenau would have been a ratings success on some Cable channels !

What is happening in Ukraine is tragic. It is what happens when you let Oligarchs run riot and loot. Americans are far too complacent letting Pierre Omidyar, Bill Gates, Lauren Powell Jobs, Pritzkers loot their country and create tent cities rather than pay taxes

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 20 2022 8:56 utc | 51

Grieved | Aug 20 2022 4:37 utc | 36

Kim Iverson reported on this story a week ago and I am just now catching up with it. Apologies if this has been discussed already

No need to apologize, Grieved, this cancel culture we're living in kinda precludes such discussion. Even Dr. McCullough in his opening statement is gobsmacked that the study in question wasn't undertaken by the likes of Harvard or Duke or the Mayo Clinic. This unconcern for our health, and particularly that of our children, is monstrous, but the information is oozing out, and it's just a matter of time before this pitiful spectacle is finally cured by the truth, and nothing but the truth.

Posted by: john | Aug 20 2022 11:57 utc | 52

Covid - from the U.K. There was definitely Excess Deaths over the 5 year running average BEFORE vaccinations were deployed. As shown by all deaths registered regardless of cause at the ONS - the independent statistical recording and reporting body in the U.K. - independent in the sense that it does not have a political ministerial appointed on it and reports directly to Parliament not the Government of the day.

That is a fact.

Many deaths were in care homes, which with isolation and lack of nursing care during lockdown could have been sown to that factor rather than just Covid; many deaths were from hospitals where ventilators were being used.
Traditionally anyone on a ventilator has limited chance of coming of it and these who do end up with long term problems due to that treatment.

That too is a fact.

Getting Covid is not the same as getting Flu. These with ‘natural immunity’ - I met one, was instantly enrolled into a blood study , shared with US Pharma firms, with a release form signed to say they would not have any rights to any developments from their blood.

That is a fact

I had Covid twice once at the beginning in Feb 2020 and once again at the end of last year Dec 2021. It felt about the same both times and with long Covid weakness that took 6+ weeks to disperse. The second time similar symptoms but the recovery seemed to be longer - the Alpha and Omega of it it. (Or Omicron if you will).

I have suffered from colds and manflu’s so I know it was not flu - the dehydration was the worst first time, the brain fog and quick exhaustion on top was worse the second.

I didn’t get any ‘Covid’ between these two instances. And I haven’t had any Covid since the last bout a good 8 months ago.

I haven’t had any vaccinations and haven’t died because of not having them.

These who had jabs and then caught Covid seem to have fared a little better but I don’t know whether it helped, because the statistics are not fully released.

Is Covid real? Ask the Chinese, and many in the world who have suffered from it. Yes it’s real. Does it have a fatality yes it seems the Chinese initially reported around 2.5 % in the Wuhan lockdown - how much was Covid and how much was ventilators I don’t know.

There are hardly any ventilators for Omicron.

These who had both shots and boosters, some had reactions to all as expected, most have now also had omicron. And they are lining up for further boosters! The vaccines didn’t stop them getting it.

How many were real and how many were placebos or ‘bad’ batches? I don’t know, the statistics have not been released.

One person I know who has been fit as a butchers dog all his life being a ‘builder’ never had any illness , but plenty of injuries- after his vaccinations , has developed arthritis, blood pressure , breathlessness and a reaction to alcohol so can no longer drink - though that may have to something to do with his blood pressure pill.

Another person a healthy young woman with a young child has suffered a miscarriage, her partner equally healthy and only 40 has had a series of chesty illnesses - all after the multiple jabs.

These are anectdotes but they are also data - where is the collection of the whole data sets?

The ONS says on its website that it is not preparing the specific data that would show Covid positives by vaccination and infection status or by type of vaccination- which is bollocks because I know that data was collected for the randomised survey they were doing with Oxford University and the US data companies - because I worked on that data collection for 9 months.


So where does it leave us?

There is data, but it is not being presented, is a FACT.

We are left with anectdotal evidence and hearsay with scope for plenty of exaggeration which is not proved or disproved because the facts are withheld.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 20 2022 13:15 utc | 53

@Tom_Q_Collins #34
Yet again, you ad hominem with no basis in reality.
I have never once listened to a single Rush Limbaugh show.

Nor is your supposed "clarity" with global warming/climate change/latest excuse for model failure, the least bit illuminating or useful.

It is entirely ironic that all of you anthropogenic climate doom people can't seem to do anything but repeat what you are told.

There are many people who have zero originality or desire for being informed because they take all of their information from Twitter; it is obvious because they literally all sound alike and can do nothing but repeat the dominant meme that has emerged from their Twitter circle.

I originally believed in the climate change party line, 25 years ago.
Then I started actually looking at the details - the devil is always in the details. The more I looked, the uglier and less truthful the meme showed to be.
And I haven't stopped looking since.

This is in clear contrast to you types as exemplified by Andrew Dessler. His debate performance between his first one with Lindzen in 2011 was almost literally identical with his "response" to Koonin on Joe Rogan earlier this year - where his response to Rogan's question of: was anything Koonin said scientifically wrong was: "No".

He just had another debate with Koonin - I'm still looking for a video of that to see if he has brought anything new to the table, or is going to yet again reprise his conspiracy theories combined with exhortations on a wide array of subjects which he clearly has zero knowledge of.

Have you seen any of the 3?
Have you paid any attention whatsoever to other viewpoints in this area?

If not, then that is precisely the sign of belief as opposed to informed opinion.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 20 2022 14:41 utc | 54

And back in the real world:

German dependence on China growing at a tremendous pace - reuters

The study found that German investment in China amounted to around 10 billion euros ($10 billion) between January and June, far exceeding the previous peak half-year value recorded since the turn of the millennium of 6.2 billion euros.

"The Chinese sales market and the profits beckoning there in the short term simply seem too attractive," Matthes said.

China's share of German imports rose to 12.4% in the first half of 2022, compared with 3.4% in 2000, while German imports of Chinese goods surged in value terms by 45.7% year on year during that six-month period, the IW found.

A container of China Shipping is loaded at a loading terminal in the port of Hamburg

A container of China Shipping is loaded at a loading terminal in the port of Hamburg Germany July 27, 2018. REUTERS/Fabian Bimmer/File Photo
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BERLIN, Aug 19 (Reuters) - The German economy became more dependent on China in the first half of 2022, with direct investment and its trade deficit reaching new heights, despite political pressure on Berlin to pivot away from Beijing, according to research seen by Reuters.

At the same time, growth in German exports to China weakened significantly, the German Economic Institute (IW) said in its study, citing economists pointing to a trend towards more local production in the Chinese market.
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"The German economy is much more dependent on China than the other way round," said Juergen Matthes, who authored the study.

He warned that this dependence posed a political problem as Beijing's stance on the Ukraine war and its military posture towards Taiwan placed German business with the world's second-largest economy under scrutiny.

"Yet despite these dangers and problems, economic interdependencies with China have been moving in the wrong direction at a tremendous pace in the first half of 2022," the economist said.
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The study found that German investment in China amounted to around 10 billion euros ($10 billion) between January and June, far exceeding the previous peak half-year value recorded since the turn of the millennium of 6.2 billion euros.

"The Chinese sales market and the profits beckoning there in the short term simply seem too attractive," Matthes said.

China's share of German imports rose to 12.4% in the first half of 2022, compared with 3.4% in 2000, while German imports of Chinese goods surged in value terms by 45.7% year on year during that six-month period, the IW found.
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Germany's trade deficit with the country had leapt to almost 41 billion euros by mid-2022, the institute said, adding that the gap was set to widen further.

Translation: deindustrialization as pioneered by the UK and US is occurring in Germany.

I'm just waiting for the German equivalent of Ross Perot, talking about "the giant sucking sound".

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 20 2022 14:45 utc | 55

Below is a quote from a ZH piece

At the height of the pandemic, the United Nations recruited over 100,000 “digital first responders’ to push the establishment narrative on COVID via social media.

The revelation actually slipped out in October 2020 during a World Economic Forum podcast called ‘Seeking a cure for the infodemic’, although it is only going viral on Twitter today.

In the podcast, Melissa Fleming, head of global communications for the United Nations, explains how the COVID pandemic and lockdowns created a “communications crisis” in addition to a public health emergency.

Fleming acknowledged that in order to fight so-called “misinformation” about the pandemic, the UN tapped up 110,000 people to amplify their messaging across social media.

“So far, we’ve recruited 110,000 information volunteers, and we equip these information volunteers with the kind of knowledge about how misinformation spreads and ask them to serve as kind of ‘digital first-responders’ in those spaces where misinformation travels,” Fleming stated.

That was nearly 2 years ago. It is not known how many ‘digital first responders’ have been recruited up to this point.

How many of these UN propaganda types visited MoA? or still do? raise your hands.....grin

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 20 2022 15:23 utc | 56

Below is a quote from a ZH piece providing an example of China dealing with corruption

In the most glaring lesson yet to the country's upstart nouveau-riche oligarchs, a Chinese court has sentenced Xiao Jianhua, the billionaire founder of Tomorrow Group known for managing assets for descendants of prominent Chinese leaders, to 13 years in prison, and slapped the conglomerate with an unprecedented fine of 55 billion yuan ($8.1 billion), culminating the dramatic break-up of China’s largest privately owned financial empire after a five-year investigation.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 20 2022 15:28 utc | 57

DunGroanin | Aug 20 2022 13:15 utc | 53

How many were real and how many were placebos or ‘bad’ batches? I don’t know, the statistics have not been released

Dose-ranging is typically done in early clinical trials. This time around 'we' are the trial.

The data clearly shows that the Covid-19 vaccination campaign has been significantly more harmful and deadly than the influenza vaccination campaign. This fact alone begs the question as to how the FDA advisory committee could possibly vote Seventeen to Zero in favour of approving the Pfizer vaccine for use in children aged 5 to 11

The data is from January, so you know the suppression is intense.

Posted by: john | Aug 20 2022 15:44 utc | 58

How many of these UN propaganda types visited MoA? or still do? raise your hands.....grin

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 20 2022 15:23 utc | 56

Nah, not enough traffic and like ZH, almost impossible to nudge people off of their pre-established positions.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 20 2022 15:47 utc | 59

nterestingly. Donald Trump is nothing more than a despicable person/shameless womanizer/liar/thief/fake educator/realtor. In short a nothing but a career crook. Hiding behind a team of lawyers.

There is even a wiki page covering allegations of Donald Trump directly assaulting at least 25 women. That is normally a political career killer.

All this current hype/hysteria we see today concerning the FBI home /search raid. One where each and every day, he alters his comments to imply that which is not self-evident. Nor does he provide any true evidence. To support his fallacious claims.

We saw that in his incitement of the January 6th, 2020 riots in Washington DC. To date zero evidence has been brought forward by all his supporters. Plenty of lies though.

Going back in time. He successfully railroaded five innocent people. Sending these unfortunates straight to jail. Finally freed after serving their unjust sentences. Donald Trump's hysteria racism project used a double-page ad in the New York Post. . The poor unfortunate "Central Park Five". One that cost the city forty million plus dollars......

We saw another episode in Toronto, Canada. The complete realtor development superfail Of Trump Tower. Costing investors and the builders tens of millions of loons. Again on the west coast of Scotland. Where transplanted trees are replaced often on his questionable golf heathland condo development. He told pure lies about his next-door neighbors.

His sister's expose book was a very good read.

Most normal sane people. Would consider Donald Trump. A lying conman/scammer and shameless charlatan.

Sadly, no amount of evidence from the real world will change all who faithfully worship DJT as the new messiah. Whilst completely ignoring all his sins...................

Thus in the unfortunate twilight years of the Union of the Soviet States of Amerika. A minimum of 30% of the entire population would prefer to tell little/big lies to themselves.

Trump supporters often call people who mock and deride those who point out the truth of their self-declared messiah. As those who suffer from the "Donald Trump Derangement Syndrome". To hide the fact these unfortunate fools just cannot handle or face the inconvenient truth. The fake "MAGA" hero they worship is a complete (unprintable)........

Finally, whatever did happen to Trump Wealth Institute and Trump Entrepreneur Initiative LLC?

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Aug 20 2022 15:55 utc | 60

@c1ue | Aug 20 2022 14:41 utc | 54

I originally believed in the climate change party line, 25 years ago.
Then I started actually looking at the details - the devil is always in the details. The more I looked, the uglier and less truthful the meme showed to be.
And I haven't stopped looking since.
My story is similar, I used to believe in the global warming party line. In 2008, on a car trip with a friend he told me it was all unscientific nonsense. I was quite provoked and set out to research the facts so I could put him in his place the next time we met. To my surprise, I discovered dishonesty and lies, falsified data and biased computer models. The more I looked, the more horrible it became.

Posted by:

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 16:23 utc | 61

quiet diplomacy - part 2… I posted a comment in the below thread with some speculations about possible behind-the-scenes negotiations taking place. (Bread crumbs only)

I wanted to follow-up on that. Even though it’s the Bennifer wedding weekend, I decided to be brave and check if the New York Post had anything to say about Starbucks. (I have noticed in the past some… hostility almost, directed that way. Is this an east coast, west coast thing like with rap artists??) There was one story:

Vegan protesters wore boots in cement blocks to protest extra fees for vegan milk. Not satire, that actually happened.

And further to Germany’s Scholz visiting Canada, Global News is preparing us for it with this primer, “Germany’s Olaf Scholz is coming to Canada to sign energy deal. Here’s why it matters”

Interesting tidbit: “Scholz’s arrival on Sunday in Montreal, where he will be welcomed by Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, marks his first visit to Canada since he took over from longtime chancellor Angela Merkel last December.”

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 20 2022 16:42 utc | 62

The CCP will not collapse in times of crisis

Anglo 1984 is child's play compared to the Han version.

Posted by: Antonym | Aug 20 2022 16:47 utc | 63

just checking to see if I'm allowed to post again.

Posted by: Old canadian | Aug 20 2022 17:00 utc | 64

Bad Deal Motors On | Aug 20 2022 15:55 utc | 60Says, speaking of Former U S President Trump,

"Most normal sane people. Would consider Donald Trump
A lying conman/scammer and shameless charlatan"

And I say, SO??

That sounds to me like the EXACT definition of today's US Politicians and upper government office holders and Corporate Businessmen/women seeking government contracts or favorable laws and rulings for themselves across the board, at least for the "successful" ones.

I'm not sure how pointing those "qualities" out as being present is going to discourage voters from making that "choice" if it is offered.

Your run-on screed is wholly TDS and I am NOT a present or former President Trump fan at all. I am also not myopic or partisan.

As for the Mar-a-Lago FBI fiasco you mentioned, the whole US Justice Department revealed itself for what it has become and it has ZERO to do with Justice. You seem to want to ignore that the US government has become a bigger problem than folks with your highlighted traits concentrated in the person of Donald Trump.

So, lets take some time to examine YOUR sins. Did you vote for Hillary? Or Bill? Or Barack? Or our current out-to-lunch corrupt empty shirt? Did you even vote?

I think your focus is in the wrong place. If you still believe that you are going to engage as a US citizen and by voting get something different overall than Donald Trump, then I think your delusional. You may get a face change and get told a bunch of crap that maybe you want to hear and you may clap and cheer, but that is the equivalent of the dogs barking and the caravan moving on right over top of you...

Good luck with THAT!

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Aug 20 2022 18:11 utc | 65

it's not possible for some of us who didn't go to Harvard and cram our brains with STEM to question the expertise of a Peter McCullough. yet he still puts the stamp of his expertise on rubbish like this:


We envision a world where people choose their path to live fully as human beings according to the physical and spiritual laws of life as God designed us.


To provide truthful, balanced, medically sound, research-based information and cutting edge updates on prevention and treatment of common medical conditions, including COVID-19 and other infectious diseases, that affect health, quality of life and longevity.

To present faith-based integrated approaches to medical treatment, health and healing services that encompass all dimensions making us human: physical, psychological/emotional, spiritual, social and environmental.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 19:00 utc | 66

pass the menthols and the natty ice, please.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 1:27 utc | 27

And this is one reason why being American is considered a mental disease. Spewing obnoxious "chill" one liners that have nothing to do with the topic, give no value to anyone, waste everyone's time and aren't even remotely decipherable to 99% of the world population (but that's the aim, right? To look cool by showing you know some jargon the others don't know, like a 12-year old school boy trying to look more important than he is).

Posted by: Jusses | Aug 20 2022 19:04 utc | 67

Jusses | Aug 20 2022 19:04 utc | 67
you don't know what a mentholated cigarette is? if you don't have these (or natty ice for that matter) in your neck of the free market, it's not because the US Congress and tobacco industry are lacking in effort at "penetration."

try google.

1. Slang for alchoholic beverage known for its large (pint sized) cans, cheap value (cheaper than canned soda), and large percentage of alchohol per volume...

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 19:20 utc | 68

Current humor.

"Olaf Scholz is waiting for the restart of Nord Stream," oil on canvas.

Posted by: alaff | Aug 20 2022 19:21 utc | 69

something else McCullough and the truthtellers at Truth for Health approve:
Stand">">Stand for Truth on Mandates

Vaccine mandates have no place in our Catholic institutions.

Below is an example letter that you can copy into an email and send to your Pastor, Bishop or other leaders.

You might also consider leading a peaceful “Stand for Truth” at Catholic institutions that are mandating the experimental shots.

in case you missed it:

Vaccine mandates have no place in our Catholic institutions. no exceptions? not even for the life of the mother?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 19:26 utc | 70

rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 19:00 utc | 66

We envision a world where people choose their path to live fully as human beings according to the physical and spiritual laws of life as God designed us.
To present faith-based integrated approaches to medical treatment, health and healing services that encompass all dimensions making us human: physical, psychological/emotional, spiritual, social and environmental.

So that is what they want, papal infallibilty for all of them, and with them acting as the Priests to tell us what the "Scriptures" ("faith-based integrated approaches") tell us we should believe. (Trust me because I told you so in person, personally, and on TikTok by myself, so you cannot question it)
Or are we supposed to treat them as demi-gods sprouting the "faith" - and if we don't agree we will be transformed into gender neutral pronouns with a distinct possibility to be "cancelled" to some heathen, establishment correctional compound, ie. police purgatory?

"physical and spiritual laws of life as God designed us", Now a "God's" rules based order? Blinken 'ell, whatever next?

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 20 2022 19:34 utc | 71

psychohistorian | Aug 20 2022 15:23 utc | 56
people say this kind of stuff and then refuse to ask:

assuming that this story is true (which it might be), what has the actual effect of such a policy been on the target populace?

because the actual effect has been to further denialism and conspiratorial thinking so that the average person throws his hands up in confusion and goes back to work in the capitalist death mill.

mission accomplished. UPS drivers are not allowed to complain about how hot it is.

whatever the actual efforts and intents of the UN (dis)info squad, the effect is to keep the machine running.

and what would the reaction be if it were condoms, not covid? would devout Catholics like Peter McCullough have the exact same reaction to such a UN program? yep.

meanwhile, in the US, people aren't in denial about covid simply because they have no sick leave? nah. not possible. America has the healthiest workforce in the world!
(Feb 2022)

Two full years and five or six waves, or surges, or spikes — whatever your preferred terminology — into the Covid-19 pandemic, with more than 850,000 dead and millions more lives, families, and communities still staggering under the weight of the loss of life and the prospects of lifelong debilitating illness for many who survived the disease, America’s editorialists, Chambers of Commerce, armchair epidemiologists, and much of our political class have determined that the country, at last, faces a truly grave crisis. Too many Americans are calling off sick. They are actually taking their sick days, or even taking unpaid time off, to care for themselves and for their families, which they are not supposed to do.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 19:46 utc | 72

rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 19:46 utc | 72

Although this was about the Catholics, the reality is that the "SuperState", Schwab, Gates et al all want us to believe without thinking further. No matter what the subject.

The "reset" or whatever you might want to call it, is supposed to have all the impact of a religion, the "rights" of an extremist creed and the instant obedience due to an absolute authority.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 20 2022 20:00 utc | 73

@ c1ue -

Yes, I'm familiar with the Dessler Koonin debate(s) and hadn't realized there was another this year. First off, however, you frequently use the terminology popularized (if not coined) by Rush Limbaugh including "limousine liberals" when talking about the climate debate; Koonin doesn't...

That said, I read a brief transcript of the most recent one and it looks like the same old stuff. I'm not completely sure why, but it keeps getting taken down at YouTube.

The reason I'm not incredibly interested in that debate is that the subject matter doesn't interest me all that much in the terms of pure climate science. As you know, they get into the kinds of topics you're fond of discussing when not outright denying that humans are affecting the global climate by driving up temperatures. Namely, Dessler gets all hot under the collar about wind, solar, etc. and how he thinks they can save humanity from global warming and Koonin likes to project that this is all a net positive for humanity for many of the same reasons you've brought up here before. My interest is in *whether* the climate is warming and given that I think - based on the details in the scientific models and observed phenomena (of many, many kinds) - that it is.

I've even agreed with you before about EVs not being the answer, and in fact - inside the globalist capitalist framework - that mining the materials used to make them work is a huge negative for the communities affected. Maybe Chile and Argentina will continue to elect left-leaning pro-indigenous leaders and they can at least allow the native population to benefit from the lithium deposits in ways that previous post-colonial governments didn't with oil and other resources. Maybe China can find ways to extract the same materials in a less damaging manner and share the knowledge with the Global South. I've also kind of agreed with you on semiconductor and PV mfg. techniques being incredibly resource intensive and in many cases toxic waste and pollution generating through the use of carcinogens being intermixed with water. As I've alluded to before, I have experience in the design and manufacturing of experimental CdTe PVs using nasty chemicals. Once more, though not on topic, I've agreed with you about the ins and outs of the global semiconductor industry and current capabilities.

In any case, back to the debates, and to your stated views on AGW, Koonin effectively states that the science is too unclear to take action. Virtually any action other than to accept that it's unsettled and that even if it's true, it's a net benefit to more people than it harms. This naturally veers into the politics and economics (really just continued fossil fuel capitalist exploitation) and becomes a debate I'm no longer interested in - at least on the same 30,000ft level as you. On that note, unless I've badly misunderstood your position, I also agree with you that when big American or EU style governments get involved, it's usually going to be by way of regulatory agencies being captured by the industries they should be policing, and that the little guys (you, me, but more so the Global South) are the ones who will pay the price to enrich the next capitalist scam artist looking to monetize portions of the debate that *are* somewhat unclear (i.e., EVs, how carbon cap mandates might really work, government grants to alternative energy corporations, etc.). All of which, to me, is a critique of the false-democracies and their subservience to capital -or at least inability to regulate or set up realistic frameworks that won't just end up creating the next Elon Musk Jr. - Although I've been reading more about SpaceX and have changed my mind on them, other than the aforementioned government "partnerships."

My interest heretofore has been simply accepting the scientific truth that humans and fossil fuels are dangerously warming the Earth. Also as you know, Koonin has already accepted the opposite and his conclusions derive from that. If you have any further materials to recommend, I'd be happy to entertain them inasmuch as this is concerned, but I'm familiar enough with the 'details' such that I'm not sure anything you put forward is going to be a radical mind-changer for me.

In closing, ad hominem is something you resort to quickly as well, despite your expressed shock whenever someone deploys it against you and some of your comments on the matter have built-in 'personal' - I'll call it "pre-ad hominem" - attacks against anyone who disagrees with you, from a broader perspective. Claiming that anyone who disagrees with you on one topic has never provided commentary of use to others on another unrelated topic is ad hominem, and untrue, period.

Forgive me if this sounds offensive and I'm not aiming for that, but your views on this topic seem to be that a) Anyone who accepts that humans are warming the Earth are members of a quasi-religious cult and immune to facts and logic and/or b) Anyone who wants to debate the merits of taking drastic action is either dumbly falling into line with industry-government graft like NATO, the MIC, NAFTA, etc. and not debating from a genuine position. Furthermore, you argue from the position *not* that the issue of warming is unsettled, but from the position that it's a big mistake, hoax or worse - being perpetrated on humanity by (and these are my words, not trying to project them verbatim onto you) some sort of evil globalist cabal intent on killing off as many undesirables as possible as part of some long game to dominate every aspect of human life on Earth.

Buuuuuut, please correct me if I'm wrong on any of that. I'm not trying to be offensive or put words in your mouth.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 20 2022 20:15 utc | 74

Grieved | Aug 20 2022 4:37 utc | 37
so i bit the leaded hollow point silver bullet and plunged into the Kim Iverson video you linked:

about 08:35
75% of children per CDC have already been exposed to covid as of Feb 2022.


"...maybe everyone has had it."

this is the US here, where we Bircher saplings are experts at performing how much we care about things like children, puppies, flowers, the Easter bunny and NFL trade deadlines.

getting the coronavirus is like being in a car crash. you and 3 others get hit by a car. 3 of you may walk away with zero physical signs of any indication of anything, other than an outrageous insurance bill for the driver. one of you might get whiplash.

and then you repeat this car crash experiment. without end. for the rest of your life.

if you are disabled, it's like being in a car crash while you are a pedestrian. helmets help, for sure, but are not the answer. esp in a 'Road Warrior' environment where drivers just don't care how hard it is for a disabled person to use a crosswalk.

Peter McCullough gives no more of a shit what covid is doing to kids than he does what car crashes do to kids. or what suicide does to kids. just like that Kennedy asshole, but with more fancy letters before and after his name.

"it has been demonstrated that once someone has had any strain of covid, they have 97% protection against any serious outcome..."

i think he proves covid causes permanent brain fog and rapid cognitive decline. all this pretense of concern about kids. i stopped listening at the 1345 mark. i want to be able to hold lunch down after sailing a sea of bullshit. "CDC dropped guidelines because people weren't following them." what a piece of shit. i care not who is offended by my opinion.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 20:19 utc | 75

The "reset" or whatever you might want to call it, is supposed to have all the impact of a religion, the "rights" of an extremist creed and the instant obedience due to an absolute authority.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 20 2022 20:00 utc | 73

The new religious authority is "scientism" which is whatever the WEF approved authorities in various scientific umbrella organizations say it is.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 20 2022 20:22 utc | 76

I started watching live feeds on youtube from James Webb telescope.There are several of them,all with slow synthesizer music.I'm very puzzled about it.Is this even real?It is a big achievement without doubt,one way or the other.

Is it to ensure Micimatt a bright future based on the construction of interstellar probes?Quite convenient then to find artificial light on a planet near Proxima Centauri,our nearest neighbouring solar system.

Or does it have a religious scheme in petto?With all those angelic forms in overwhelming colours flying about?

Maybe James Webb could give us some live feed images from the other side of the moon when it's lit,that would be great!

some links: live feed arteficial light on PrCentauri Jupiter feed

Posted by: willie | Aug 20 2022 20:31 utc | 77

@37 Grieved | Aug 20 2022 4:37 utc ... more:

Further to that post regarding vaccine-induced heart damage, I see also that John Campbell has a review of the Thai study:

Thai vaccine heart complications

Those familiar with Campbell's work will know that a calm and methodical analysis of the findings awaits in this 18-minute video.


ps..Trolls who wish to vilify messengers in order to obscure messages can now try their hand at Campbell, having spat vitriol over McCullough.

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 20 2022 21:17 utc | 78

Grieved | Aug 20 2022 21:17 utc | 78
it's funny how you weenies take comments about a public figure as an attack upon you personally. McCullough puts on his big boy britches and sticks his authority into the spotlight with the understanding that random whoevers will take shots at him. it goes w/the territory.

verbal shots. no one in this country is taking actual shots at catholic dickheads like mccullough. au quite the contraire.

but keep on whining.

btw, since i couldn't stomach all his Iverson appearance and already wasted far too much time than this old fart MD merits, yes, i've listened to him before, i am not 100% certain if he addressed this, but did he even bother to discuss the effects of covid on kids, except to say how they are grossly exaggerated, if they exist at all?

only the disputed data concerning cardio issues in kids merits concern. like the good scientist he is, he provides no comparative data at all by which we can evaluate the *relative safety* of kids being vaccinated or not compared with kids getting the virus.

like the deep thinker he is, he stacks the deck in his favor, telling you what you want to hear. and you agree, because you are deep too.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 21:50 utc | 79

In total, over 10,000 children may have experienced neurological complications, just in the United States alone. Extrapolated globally, this number rises to hundreds of thousands of children with potentially life-altering neurological complications. That is, the reckless “let it rip” policies enacted by governments around the world have not only led to the deaths of millions of elderly and working-age adults, as well as thousands of children, but has also caused pain and suffering for hundreds of thousands of children and their families for years to come.


These figures are damning in their own right. They are even more alarming when one takes into account the widely held belief that the official figures are significantly lower than the reality. One can only imagine what scientists would find if they had access to all the available data, not only from child hospitalizations but from all reported cases.

yeah, McCullough and co are real heroes. has anyone ever had a greater concern for the teenage US athlete?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 21:59 utc | 80

Grieved | Aug 20 2022 21:17 utc | 78

Thanks for that link and rock solid. That Tai study on US big pharma vaccines appears to be the first. There is another study in Israel on the reduction of male fertility due to US vaccines. I will have to dig that one up again and put together with this. One thing about Israel is they don't give a sht about what the American goys think.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2022 22:31 utc | 81

rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 21:59 utc | 80
I am not qualified to comment on the data on cardiac issues in teens. in the US, i would be very hesitant, if not refuse, to have my kids vaxxed at this point. but why put them back in schools at all if you "care" about kids? it's not about kids at all, but about "the economy", that's why. people get to perform a pretense of knowledge and concern while the goal all along is to get back on the treadmill.

but we will soon be in year 4 of China's successful anti-covid policy. i've spent an hour a week talking to a 15 year old student in Hangzhou every week for the duration of the coronavirus.

naturally, the only question re covid he has is when the rest of the world will follow China. and why he has to live w/the constant threat of the unrelenting indifference of most of the US-led world to any realities of the virus. the exact same indifference that is characteristic of the US in regard to every other public health problem.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 22:44 utc | 82

from the John Campbell video on the Thai study,
at about 14:30, discussing possible myopericarditis:
"if there was any question about it at all, [the patient would] be advised to rest..."

not a small point. indeed, it is THE point. people are too sick to recognize the sick patient cannot be allowed to rest. in this carefully packaged and presented study, the researchers do not advise REST for patients who may be experiencing side effects from vaccination. rest is forbidden, even for teenage athletes. (again, i don't have the expertise to evaluate all this Thai study, but good on him for catching that. it's like hospital food in the US: one must ask if the people serving this junk are really here to help.)

capitalism cannot allow people to rest. because we are slaves. and that's the real issue. As with global warming, I assume the numerous voices downplaying the seriousness of the coronavirus are capitalist agitprop.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 22:58 utc | 83

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 21:59 utc | 80

In total, over 10,000 children may have experienced neurological complications, just in the United States alone.
Much as I like your acerbic comments to this forum, I have to point out that your link to data is presented in a complete vacuum which makes it completely devoid of meaning.
You haven't explained what are the complications if all the children get vaccinated? If you had done that the neurological complications of covid would be compared to something that prevents covid. Unfortunately, we all know that the vaccines do not prevent covid. Does anybody know if the vaccinated children that get covid don't also have neurological complications when they get covid?

The link in the post you are responding to suggests there is a downside to children getting vaccinated. Does that add to the complications of getting covid or subtract from it? Does anybody really know or is this all a grand exercise in slinging bullshit from every side.

Posted by: jinn | Aug 20 2022 23:13 utc | 84

jinn | Aug 20 2022 23:13 utc | 84
good questions. let's stick children in the middle of this rather than stopping long enough to answer those questions. oh no, we've got Teslas to build. that wal mart junk is not going to package and sell itself. how can we police the world, i mean protect freedom, if we are worried about the health of our coughing brats? who will eat all those cows? drive those highways? concuss crania on the gridiron for our amusement?

whose zeal to build more "civilian" nuclear reactors will be abated by seeing one subject to fire in a combat zone? no more than after Chernobyl. or 4.8 km Island. or Fukushima. we are more enamored with nuclear war after WW2, not less.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 23:59 utc | 85

last post on covid. there's no dispute about China's successful policy.

John Campbell, about 15:30
"'s a disgrace that my mum is getting essentially the same advice as adolescent young men. it's just incredible that this goes against the fundamental principles of individualization of medicine. the whole point is that we treat people wholistically and individually, not as populations..."

Roma locuta. though i suppose w/ say 50 million diabetics we could treat each one "individually" not as a "population," it might be more efficient not to create false dichotomies and instead to treat first the common issues that 50 million people with the same disease share and then to individualize treatment. but i'm not a medical professional and what i propose doesn't sound like it fell off the John Birch tree. what do i know? maybe it works to treat 50 million people w/the same problem "individually", solve each one, one at a time. while the diabetes machine keeps cranking out diabetics. by the millions.

maybe "diabetes positivity" is the answer, like "body positivity" helps fat people (myself included) feel good about ourselves? our waistline, ourselves. mass creates gravity! influence the world thru obesity!

maybe what we need is "covid positivity"? like what John Campbell says about "wholistic, individualized treatment," it's the kind of wunderbrot shit sandwich Americans love. the concept of "Bicycle Thieves", like a ruling class, is apparently beyond us. oh no. there can be one and only one "Bicycle Thief." so, like oxygen, water, sewage, food, sleep, sunshine, HVAC, etc., covid is a very personal and private thing. God forbid that grandma and a young Michael Jordan require the exact same treatment. oh no! who coulda ever thunk such junk? it contradicts the principles of private ownership of everything! my corona. my treatment. mine.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 21 2022 0:02 utc | 86

rjb1.5 | Aug 21 2022 0:02 utc | 86

if you don't know what i mean. the US censors are busy at work with seemingly minor details. pennies count. singular vs plural counts. it's astonishing how our censors consider that language conditions experience. no matter what we see on film, we cannot be allowed to translate that experience into a certain set of words, even though that experience is present in most frames of the movie:

the fact that there is no lack of bicycles.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 21 2022 0:11 utc | 87

Relocating to Asia

This in reply to a comment on the other thread but O/T there.

I arrived in China in September 2020. It was about the 50th time since I first came in 2007, but this time was different: I came on a single ticket. I have a residence permit as the family company has a Chinese subsidiary and I can write my own work contract. If this route is not available, first get a job here, then strike up a long term relationship with a partner (authorities are aware of hump and dump operations) and get married to cement your position. There is a substantial, happy and growing international marriage community in the Shekou district of Shenzhen. I shall shortly be joining them.

If that arrangement is not feasible/does not appeal, there are numerous options to resettle in Asian countries. The most appealing offer in my view comes from the Philippines. If over 50, for a deposit of $10,000 plus a minimum pension of $800/month (otherwise $20,000) and no criminal record you can obtain a Special Retirement Residence Visa which gives unlimited entry and residence rights. I write this from Port Barton on the island of Palawan, where I am waiting for the return of my passport with the SRRV before returning to China. Then I will have secure residence rights in both China and the Philippines and little danger that I will be forced to return to the UK.

Posted by: Walt | Aug 21 2022 0:29 utc | 88

damn, the Ukrainian boxer won, which means several minutes of "slava ukraina" and parading around with ukrainian flags and colors.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 21 2022 0:33 utc | 89

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Aug 20 2022 23:59 utc | 85

how can we police the world, i mean protect freedom, if we are worried about the health of our coughing brats?

If your point is anybody making these arguments about their grave concern for children is not being really being genuine, i can't disagree with that. The path to poor health is something modern culture teaches which means that young children have yet to learn it.

What astounds me is that their so little commentary on the fact that covid has revealed that so many people are in very poor health and thus are vulnerable to any opportunistic microbe that comes along.
In the last half dozen or so decades, people have been brain washed to believe that you don't need to take care of your health because the medical establishment has just the right concoction to overcome anything that might take advantage of your poor health. Guess what? That's bu!lshit.

Posted by: jinn | Aug 21 2022 0:43 utc | 90

A couple of things...

The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight
Rogue Agency

And for those who believe or do not believe the climate is real and moving all the time. “When you see me, weep.”...
‘Hunger Stones’ With Ominous Messages Emerge in Drought-Parched Czech River

They actually laid upon the rocks and carved the letters and numbers upside down. There are many being found all over Europe denoting 10 periods between 1414 and about 1898.
A historic climate-fueled drought in Europe revealed ominous, centuries-old 'hunger stones' warning of hardship

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 21 2022 1:18 utc | 91


rjb1.5 user name appears to have gone into overdrive with that one.
For me its a matter of separating US anti vax, contrail, ufo, US from solid reports.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2022 1:27 utc | 92

A data point - even Murican's agree?

US CNN's Smerconish survey question for Aug 20, 2022:

"Is JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon right in saying there’s "truth” to China’s claim that the U.S. is “incompetent and lazy”?
63.21% (16,939 votes)

36.79% (9,857 votes)"

Total Votes: 26,796

Posted by: daffyDuct | Aug 21 2022 2:29 utc | 93

@92 Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2022 1:27 utc

My impression from some time ago has been that he's a piece of filth troll - loves to get aggressive, and ad hominem, and we know what that means...coupled with all the "concern".

I skip over that trash for the most part.

I think psycho nailed it up-thread with his report on the 100,000 trolls that the UN engaged to "set the record straight" in this field.


It's a lamentable fact of life today, this trolling...but I have noted the comments that say that one day the truth will out, on all things. The consciousness is dawning in the world - at glacial speed but that's appropriate too - that we don't have to live this way, at the mercy of a hegemon that controls the narrative.

So perhaps in the centuries to come, a better world can be built. This is a real possibility I think, and I encourage you to pass it along to your descendants, in all the other knowledge you will impart.

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 21 2022 2:34 utc | 94

Grieved | Aug 21 2022 2:34 utc | 94

On my vk account, I put up a pic of a couple of granddaughters aboard a brahman cow. The young bloke with them is my son. All the young ones have their faces on cia social media. I put mine up with the vk account I guess for me it is now a matter of surviving until the shit hits the fan. Children were all home taught untill age 1

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2022 3:22 utc | 95

@ld re : « Euthanasia » by Post Malone. Razor’s edge. I’ve met a few people with face tattoos, obviously their past was complicated. What and who are our human refuse ? I am too. But we’re still people.

Thank you for the share !

Posted by: Featherless | Aug 21 2022 3:23 utc | 96

@ Norwegian | Aug 20 2022 5:18 utc | 39

Thank you for the laugh! I needed it today. I'll celebrate with a shot of Tokubetsu Junmai.

Posted by: Ron | Aug 21 2022 3:41 utc | 97

Grieved | Aug 21 2022 2:34 utc | 94

On my vk account, I put up a pic of a couple of granddaughters aboard a brahman cow. The young bloke with them is my son. All the young ones have their faces on cia social media. I put mine up with the vk account I guess for me it is now a matter of surviving until the shit hits the fan. Children were all home taught until age 16. Then they went away for the last two years of schooling. See another life, make their own decisions. Perhaps they will call me again as the shit hits the fan, perhaps they wont. I have tried but without imposing on them as they matured into adults. (when they were young it was "go find the strap")

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2022 3:43 utc | 98

willie @ 77

That reminds me of the postulated Phaeton (hypothetical planet). That has always interested me as the planet would have been close enough to Earth for travel if an advanced civilization lived there. Some say the force of its destruction caused the global flood story. It may explain some of the ancient alien theories.

Things are never as they seem and the past is replete with strange successes and obvious failures. For myself it would explain many anomalies in our historical record. Certainly, it would be an interesting study when I retire.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 21 2022 4:24 utc | 99

@circumspect | Aug 21 2022 1:18 utc | 91

They actually laid upon the rocks and carved the letters and numbers upside down. There are many being found all over Europe denoting 10 periods between 1414 and about 1898.
A historic climate-fueled drought in Europe revealed ominous, centuries-old 'hunger stones' warning of hardship
So it is in fact written in stone that this has happened many times before, including long before the industrial age, and has nothing to do with driving too many SUVs or whatever.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 21 2022 6:51 utc | 100

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