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August 17, 2022
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Tis oft said, In geopolitics, that the US is playing checkers while Putin (Russia) is playing chess. And Erdogan? Why. He’s playing Turkish draughts…. And seeing this, that explains everything. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 15:23 utc | 1 This day in history Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 15:24 utc | 2 Precious Metals
This^ post I found fascinating…. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 15:31 utc | 3
If you look at the purchasing power graph since 1913, the 1971 removal of the gold standard conversion did almost nothing to the long term devaluation trend. Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 17 2022 15:39 utc | 4 little bit of good news: corrupt psychopath daughter of infamous neocon war criminal and profiteer Dick Cheney lost the primaries. I’m guessing the swamp monsters have started eating each other. Posted by: SumGuy | Aug 17 2022 15:51 utc | 5 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2022 15:58 utc | 6 From Reuters
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2022 15:59 utc | 7 Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 15:31 utc | 3 Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 17 2022 16:26 utc | 8 Stonebird | Aug 17 2022 16:26 utc | 8 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 16:32 utc | 9 “This changes everything…..” Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 16:33 utc | 10 I found a very good youtube channel “Tales of American Empire” that produces short history lessons of 10-15 minutes which delve into a more truthful version of history rather than the official version that the Western schools and media teach. Such as: “This Tweet can’t be replied to, shared or liked.” Posted by: rk | Aug 17 2022 16:42 utc | 12 W/r/t vaccines, while I doubt the vaccine was ever more likely to cause an adverse effect than actually getting SARS/covid, the sheer amount of hype that went into mRNA vaccines, hype which is now practically non-existent, is something I’ve found odd. Just a year ago, we were being told that mRNA vaccines were so revolutionary that deaths from just about any illness were going to be a thing of the past. Now, available mRNA vaccines are less efficacious in preventing serious illness from SARS infection than traditional vaccines, including Novavax and the Cuban series of vaccines. Posted by: fnord | Aug 17 2022 16:55 utc | 13 “It would all be a laughable comic opera except for their obscene grotesqueness. Every single time the so-called elites latch onto and then vigorously promote and demand submission to whatever The Current Thing is at the current moment — one thing we can be sure of is to follow — it always always ends up badly for them. Every. Single. Time. Posted by: Kana | Aug 17 2022 17:14 utc | 14 https://off-guardian.org/2022/08/17/putin-sputnik-v-mass-vaccination/ Posted by: snake | Aug 17 2022 17:44 utc | 15 https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Ron_Unz_Twitter_Cancels_Russia_Over_Covid_Biowarfare_Accusations.pdf Posted by: snake | Aug 17 2022 17:50 utc | 16
Checkers has in my opinion gotten an undeservedly bad rap, probably it involves only two types of unit (and the second doesn’t come about for some time). In my experience, that makes checkers by far the harder game than chess, because the tactics in checkers are wide open. In contrast, the pawns in chess severely limit the possible tactics, at least in the early stages of a game. This often permits an accurate assessment without requiring a ton of calculation. Posted by: David Levin | Aug 17 2022 17:55 utc | 17 @ Posted by: snake | Aug 17 2022 17:44 utc | 15 Posted by: fnord | Aug 17 2022 17:57 utc | 18 Posted by: Roger | Aug 17 2022 16:39 utc | 11 Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 17 2022 18:00 utc | 19 Those who follow markets for monetary metals might want to take a look at Harvey Organ’s website (harveyorganblog dot com), where he posts details on monetary metal market activity each business day. The information is way beyond my interest/expertise, but his posts also include many interesting articles that aren’t directly related to metals. Posted by: David Levin | Aug 17 2022 18:05 utc | 20 One bit of recent good news is that Colombia has elected a progressive president (at least compared to the last few) and is in the process of normalizing relations with neighboring Venezuela. Posted by: farm ecologist | Aug 17 2022 18:10 utc | 21 @Melaleuca #2 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 17 2022 18:52 utc | 22 reminds me of William Jenning’s Bryan’s memorable “Cross of Gold” speech during the gold-silver disputes back in the day. of course Silver is the same. i guess the value of metals is they cant come in and turn them to sawdust the way they can just “disappear” digital dollars, but money is based on social agreement about its value, once you get past barter of salt for wheat or whatever. Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 17 2022 19:00 utc | 23 i think there are a lot more tactics in chess, more pieces, more varied properties of the pieces. if you want a more complicated game than chess, go would be an example, maybe no limit poker. there is also a more complicated version of checkers played in Russia and probably other places, on a 10 x 10 board. Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 17 2022 19:02 utc | 24 @22 c1ue Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 17 2022 19:03 utc | 25 … There is almost certainly not enough Gold to go round, first come, first served. …. Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 17 2022 19:30 utc | 26 @pretzelattack #23 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 17 2022 19:32 utc | 27 i think there are a lot more tactics in chess, more pieces, more varied properties of the pieces. if you want a more complicated game than chess, go would be an example, maybe no limit poker. there is also a more complicated version of checkers played in Russia and probably other places, on a 10 x 10 board. Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 17 2022 19:33 utc | 28 @NemesisCalling #25 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 17 2022 19:34 utc | 29 Re: 27 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 17 2022 19:36 utc | 30 yes i know he was the candidate. he wanted bimetallism. that was the point of the speech. he wanted to increase the money supply by making silver legal tender. gold was already money. Bryan lost, and the gold standard was adopted. Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 17 2022 19:36 utc | 31 Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 17 2022 19:33 utc | 28 Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 17 2022 19:50 utc | 32 Why all this BS about gold when both Russia and China have made it clear that the new money with intrinsic value will have precious metals, commodities, raw materials, energy and participating nations currencies as part of a breadbasket of things that are harder to manipulate than just gold or silver or oil. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2022 19:51 utc | 33 damn i never knew that about Wizard of Oz, Bryan would probably be apopleptic over the whole idea of following a “yellow brick road”, can’t lead anywhere good he would have said. Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 17 2022 19:52 utc | 34 William Jennings Bryan was the Presidential candidate for the Populist party. c1ue @27 Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2022 19:52 utc | 35 Roger @ 11: Posted by: Jen | Aug 17 2022 19:53 utc | 36 @29 c1ue Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 17 2022 19:57 utc | 37 What I forgot to add was that the current push to de-monopolize the metals/commodity/energy markets is part of the strategy to “normalize” international markets before establishing a Reserve Currency based on this breadbasket of things whose values will fluctuate over time. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2022 20:00 utc | 38 Wow! Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 17 2022 20:03 utc | 39 is there a “deep blue” counterpart in checkers? Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 17 2022 20:08 utc | 40 Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 17 2022 20:08 utc | 40 Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 17 2022 20:12 utc | 41 According to Covert Action Magazine, Walden Bello has been arrested in The Phillipines, almost certainly at the behest of Blinken and the US. Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2022 20:21 utc | 42 @ psychohistorian & Melaleuca Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 17 2022 20:38 utc | 43 it may soon be possible to have a conversation with Biden, or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof. Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 17 2022 21:03 utc | 44 Re: Farsi / Dari languages (etc) translator Posted by: Featherless | Aug 17 2022 21:35 utc | 45 Stonebird @ 8 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 17 2022 21:46 utc | 46 Checkers and Chess Posted by: Haassaan | Aug 17 2022 21:50 utc | 47 🇷🇺🇵🇸 Russian Ministry of Defence is ready to develop a full range of relations with military organisations and special services in Palestine Posted by: financial matters | Aug 17 2022 22:02 utc | 48 Pepe: Posted by: financial matters | Aug 17 2022 22:12 utc | 49 @pretzelattack #34 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 17 2022 22:30 utc | 50 @NemesisCalling #37 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 17 2022 22:35 utc | 51 and the fact that none of the original bars was returned tells the real story. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 15:24 utc | 2 Posted by: jinn | Aug 17 2022 23:13 utc | 53 Published the sequel today, “Overcoming Systemic Plunder”. Within it I made a parenthetical note about the worthlessness of the dollar and linked to the most recent balance sheet published by the Treasury Department. When you look, do note the amount of negative equity. And in case you’ve forgotten or just don’t know, the formula is Assets-Liabilities=Equity. Elsewhere in that overall report is the accumulated amount of all that negative equity, $123.5 Trillion. That’s how much Neoliberalism has plundered from US citizens, so the rest of the world shouldn’t feel too bad. jinn @53– I find comments at nakedcapitalism.com to be recently very worth consideration. Here is just one from today’s Links there:
Posted by: juliania | Aug 17 2022 23:55 utc | 56 Posted by: Haassaan | Aug 17 2022 21:50 utc | 47 Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 18 2022 0:07 utc | 57 I gave the link yesterday to Philip Roddis’ Why read Michael Hudson Part 1. “That post concluded with Wen Tiejun, author of the first of two forewords to Michael Hudson’s 2022 book: The Destiny of Civilization: Finance Capitalism, Industrial Capitalism or Socialism. Posted by: bevin | Aug 18 2022 0:08 utc | 58 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 17 2022 22:30 utc | 50 Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 18 2022 0:16 utc | 59 @ karlof1 | Aug 17 2022 23:19 utc | 54 Posted by: james | Aug 18 2022 0:22 utc | 60 Canada Files, which goes from strength to strength, publishes a story on the relationship between one of the country’s top reporters and his patrons at CSIS. Posted by: bevin | Aug 18 2022 0:41 utc | 61 karlofi did you see that Walden Bello had been arrested by Marcos Jr? Posted by: bevin | Aug 18 2022 0:44 utc | 62 Liz Cheney doomed any anti-Trump efforts within the GOP: Posted by: Tenet | Aug 18 2022 1:06 utc | 63 Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 18 2022 0:07 utc | 57 Posted by: Haassaan | Aug 18 2022 1:33 utc | 64 Hmm, Richard Haass of the Council of Foreign Relations says, regarding pro-Trump Hageman victory: Posted by: Tenet | Aug 18 2022 1:37 utc | 65 bevin @62–
To discern whether my comment that started the “chess v. checkers” subthread might have been unduly influenced by the disparity between my study of chess and of checkers (which isn’t much above nil), I decided to try to learn more about checkers strategy, if I could find a useful resource freely online. Posted by: David Levin | Aug 18 2022 2:32 utc | 67 @51 c1ue Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 18 2022 2:56 utc | 68 “This is as dangerous a moment for this country as we’ve seen since the run-up to the Civil War.” Following on from a discussion yesterday on the Multipolar issue following b’s article, I managed to locate the 7th century Edicts mentioned. This is a contemporary translation but I believe faithfully follows the original: Tenet @ 65 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 18 2022 3:17 utc | 71 I’ve been enjoying the YouTube videos of an American woman (who calls herself Katherine) traveling in China. She mostly specializes in obscure countryside places, so that’s a pretty candid view of the less developed, less glamorous side China: Posted by: Robert Macaire | Aug 18 2022 3:31 utc | 72 I’d like to learn to speak a few Farsi and Dari words, for the people I meet in my Neighbourhood. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 18 2022 3:39 utc | 73 This was the beginning of the largest Ponzi scheme ever seen. The value of the US dollar has been steadily falling ever since. “ Posted by: Bluedog57 | Aug 18 2022 3:50 utc | 74 Robert Macaire | Aug 18 2022 3:31 utc | 72– Now Liz Cheney can return full time to fellating all the Pharisee dick she so craves for validation. Posted by: TimesUp | Aug 18 2022 4:00 utc | 76 ZH has a posting up with the title
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 18 2022 4:37 utc | 77 Personally, I suspect that a bifurcation is under way moreover one that all sides are fully on board with, by happenstance or more likely design. Pelosi is an old China hand with contacts in both Taiwan and PRC and family investments and partnerships apparently all over the place. The purpose of Pelosi’s trip was to provide a pretext for China to get tough finally, which happened. Now a sanctions war will gradually unfold and the supply chains and financial flows will decouple. Posted by: Robert Macaire | Aug 18 2022 3:31 utc | 72 Trump to be indicted? The recent revelations of the extraordinary secret attempt by the then Prime Minister of Australia to aggregate to himself the ministerial powers of at least five ministries (Health, Finance, Treasury, Science & Resources and Home Affairs). Posted by: Hope | Aug 18 2022 5:35 utc | 81 Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 18 2022 5:23 utc | 81 Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 18 2022 6:17 utc | 82 “Pelosi is an old China hand with contacts in both Taiwan and PRC” Posted by: K | Aug 18 2022 6:20 utc | 83 Tenet @ 63: Posted by: Jen | Aug 18 2022 6:25 utc | 84 Hope | Aug 18 2022 5:35 utc | 82 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 18 2022 6:31 utc | 85 Looking at the 5 additional portfolios moriscum appropriated to himself…. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 18 2022 6:36 utc | 86 Attention Canadians Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 18 2022 7:28 utc | 87 Attention Canadians Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 18 2022 7:28 utc | 88 Re: Lying asshole ex Oz PM, Scum Mo. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 18 2022 7:32 utc | 89 If you’re interested in AI and the game Go then “AlphaGo” on youtube might be worth 60min of your time. I enjoyed it more than I thought when I first randomly clicked on it about 6 months ago. Its not an easy game to learn so I stick to chess. Posted by: Alogon | Aug 18 2022 8:00 utc | 90 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 16:33 utc | 10 Posted by: Orage | Aug 18 2022 8:41 utc | 91 Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 18 2022 5:08 utc | 80 Posted by: Another Brother Ma | Aug 18 2022 8:49 utc | 92 Melaleuca #10 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 18 2022 9:10 utc | 93 @10, 13, 15 Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 18 2022 9:16 utc | 94 Apologies if already posted: Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 18 2022 9:51 utc | 95 Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 18 2022 9:51 utc | 96 Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 18 2022 9:54 utc | 96 Orage | Aug 18 2022 8:41 utc | 92
Is it? Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 18 2022 10:00 utc | 97 @ Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 18 2022 4:54 utc | 79 Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 18 2022 11:08 utc | 98 I realise Olaf Scholz is qualified only to be a supermarket department manager and Habeck well-suited to the role of Substitute Teacher, but what was the point of imposing a Surcharge (“Umlage”) on Gas Consumers to fund the State rescue of Uniper – whose contracts to buy Russian gas had been up-ended by Habeck in Berlin – leaving them with a €12,000,000,000 loss for the year…………….. Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 18 2022 11:32 utc | 99 Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 18 2022 9:16 utc | 95 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 18 2022 11:40 utc | 100 |
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